Although I do not own either machine I have used them both extensively. The default setting of '2' on the SDC is of quite low sensitivity and for a fairer test it should be tested against the factory default setting of the 5000. I would like to see the test again with the SDC setting on max sensitivity against your personal best settings on the 5000. I might suggest the result would be a little different. Interesting video though.
I work as a shearer,I own a small piece of land near Wedderburn?All i want to do is go Prospecting?I believe it,s still in the ground and technology will aid in the finding and finds of this beautiful mineral called Gold,Thank you Nenad @ Phase Technical for your wealth of knowledge and sharing it! Cheers and hope you hit the biggest nugget out there.
I’d love to see the same comparison with the new Coiltek 10”, 11” or 14” on the SDC just to see how it went! The 11” mono would be great to see compared to your GPX with the 11”. Thanks for the video!
Great video! Thank you for your attention to detail. Currently I'm weighing in on either a sdc or gpx as my first detector for placer channels here in Cassiar, BC. The post-glacio-fluvial boulder-runs are typically 30-60cm deep. The gold is mostly spherical/flat and well-travelled, like smooth oats weighing on average from 0.08 to 0.3g. Magnetite is always present, but especially concentrated when gold is present. Any/all feedback much appreciated.
So the gold starts at 30cm deep, or do the runs start at the surface and dip to 30-60cm? Smooth and well travelled gold is usually easier to detect, unless it is very thin and on edge. But for that type of gold you are going to get better depth with a GPX 5000. If you are not in a rush, wait till the 6000 is available and see what it can do on small gold.
@@diggingwithphasetechThe gold is within/between the boulders, which are easily traceable even under thick moss and undergrowth, as the runs wander like a convex snake above the adjacent ground. Such deposits are formed under kms of ice, where the water and material migrate under enormous head/pressure. Besides these features on my claim, there are virtually countless unexplored bedrock showings in the surrounding mountains and streams which are waiting for the snow to melt. Thank you for your recommendation and input. It seemed to me the SD is perhaps a bit easier to start off with, and there just happened to be one for sale here, for a reasonable price 2600 Au dollars. With any luck and much adventure, perhaps the next one will be said gpx6000. Keep your videos coming pal. Much appreciated.
With your experience with both the GPX 5000 and SDC 2300 which would you rather have. I bought a new SDC 2300 2 months ago hasn't found any gold yet lots of lead and bullet casings but my friend just got a used GPX 5000 with 2 coils, harness with speaker, it's in perfect condition someone bought it and used it a few times he said he would trade me if I wanted to. What's your opinion ? Should I. I like that the GPX has so many coils to use. Thanks. Great video
Thanks for watching. If I really wanted to find a bit of gold, I would go to some shallow and hot ground and grab the SDC2300. It's ability to sniff out a bit of gold in difficult conditions is well proven. But, if I could only have one or the other, I'd probably have to say the 5000. Just far more versatile with endless coil options, coil switching, selectable timings etc etc. You just have to be content with the fact you'll probably be walking over gold that the 2300 would pick up, but you will also get the bigger deeper bits that the 2300 would leave behind.
@@rollandsaxton Rolland! I've watched this video by Phase Tech twice,great video! I am personally still on the fence between the 2.I believe if you could only have 1 machine then going with the 5k and picking up the little 12x8 evolution coil sounds like a great way to go when in areas with only small gold,we learn alot from our Australian friends for sure!😀
Good vid mate love all the vids u post great work 👍 I'm curious to see if you'll do the same test again with the newer evo coils or elite coils ? Or not much improvement you think
I have done quite a bit of testing but have not put videos up. The Evo/Elite/Ultra coils have improved the GPX's noticeably on some of that hard to see gold, but the SDC still wins on a lot of it. So results really come down to the type of gold, sometimes the SDC wins, and sometimes the GPXs will be better. 12x8" Evo in Fine Gold will get you the closest to SDC sensitivity.
Ive found gold as small as 0.15 in fine gold and setting not too far from standard but only in mullocks, would sensitive extra hear anything smaller? Or that's about the 5000 limits?
@@troyarnott4588 Sens Extra has a little more depth, particularly with larger coils, but I think Fine Gold wins on sensitivity to the smallest pieces. The smallest I've found with the 5000 is 0.06g.
In this vid I'm using Technics dj headphones - very good sound, but are not comfortable for long use. These days I'm using Recon ST's, and have a couple different ones in the bag for back ups.
Mainly using the 7000 and 6000 for gold these days. Still have the 2300 and 4500 in the arsenal though. 2300 for really bad mineralised clay areas, and 4500 when I want to use a specific coil.
Any metal detector can detect gold rings but in parks, you will have a lot of other junk lying around. So generally you want a detector that is more suited to coin and relic detecting, as they have very good target discriminators.
Interesting comparison video.Would have been interesting to backfill the hole and compress the earth back down and see what the signal for the 11" sounded like.Maybe you could do an air versus soil penetration comparison video.Would be interesting to see if any difference at all.Cheers.
Not a lot of difference to be honest. Once the soil is disturbed, whether it's loose soil or air is pretty much the same. Unless there's some nasty hot rocks in the dirt. The best test beds are those made with intent where you know they won't be dug up by anyone, and where you can leave them for 6 months, so the soil has a chance to naturally settle. Even better, natural un-dug targets. But the problem with that is you don't know what you are testing for until you dig it up. I do know that natural targets can be detected deeper than an air test once they are recovered. Have seen evidence of that many times over the years.
If you want a point n shoot detector that rarely misses, even in well worked areas, go for the SDC. If you like the idea of having a few different coils at your disposal, and are happy to get out and prospect, then the versatility of the 5000 is still unmatched.
I didn't do it at all on camera. I can't remember now but if the threshold was erratic when I got there, I would have done a noise cancel. If the threshold is nice and stable as it is in the video, then the Noise Cancel won't do anything. You actually run the risk of it going worse.
SDC better on low conductive gold (reefy, prickly, specimens etc), and GPX better on solid lumpy gold. GPX is more versatile with its huge range of coils and adjustable timings.
Great comparison mate The technology isn't as good as everyone makes out full stop, you would think detectors would have come further over the years no real difference than an old SD or GP really.
Thanks. But I think detectors have come a long way. Maybe on big solid multi ounce lumps there hasn't been a big increase since the SD/GP days, but on specimens and reef gold, there has been a huge depth increase, especially with the 7000.
In theory yes, but in all my years testing stuff, I dig a hole and go over it and have never got a signal off the hole. Old detector holes that have been filled in though are notorious for giving false signals.
I have used the sdc with the supplied headphones about ten times, and they have already FAILED! am a pensioner and can't afford to be rough on my gear, so I am very careful with my equipment. Having to pay to get them fixed is frustrating to say the least. Doggerbob
If I want max punch on small gold on a GPX series machines these days, then I strap on the 12x8" Evo. But when I did this video, the new series of coils were not out yet.
i could have picked up that target on my sdc2300 first thing you need to do is a noise canceller to get the machine quiet so you can hear the target and then play with the settings just as you do on the gpx im sure that you would not have got a target if you turned your gpx on an expect it to find gold
I've been using that test piece for many years, and I can assure you the GPX sees it deeper than an SDC. Especially with the new range of coils. I recently picked up several bits under 0.5grams with a 14x9" evolution coil at depths that an SDC just couldn't touch. Ask anyone who has experience with both units. If you want to read how to get the best from the SDC2300, read my blog: phasetechnical.com.au/blog-2/
Hi guys I’m a still trying to decide between the gpx 4500 or sdc 2300 to be my first detector most of my detecting will be mt browne( near tibbooburra) and the golden triangle 🤦♂️
SDC is the ultimate clean up detector. Even going on previously worked ground, if you detect low and slow you will always pull a few bits - trouble is sometimes they are tiny. The GPX4500 when fitted with a 12x8" or 14x9" evo is ridiculously sensitive, and will punch deeper on larger gold than the SDC. You can also swing faster due to being able increase the motion speed.
Although I do not own either machine I have used them both extensively. The default setting of '2' on the SDC is of quite low sensitivity and for a fairer test it should be tested against the factory default setting of the 5000. I would like to see the test again with the SDC setting on max sensitivity against your personal best settings on the 5000. I might suggest the result would be a little different. Interesting video though.
+Rainer L you can set the SDC on max and the gpx will still beat it for depth on high conductive targets. This is common knowledge
Great job mate! Thanks for your work
I work as a shearer,I own a small piece of land near Wedderburn?All i want to do is go Prospecting?I believe it,s still in the ground and technology will aid in the finding and finds of this beautiful mineral called Gold,Thank you Nenad @ Phase Technical for your wealth of knowledge and sharing it! Cheers and hope you hit the biggest nugget out there.
Lots of good gold came out of Wedderburn district, and probably many pieces still waiting to be found!
I’d love to see the same comparison with the new Coiltek 10”, 11” or 14” on the SDC just to see how it went! The 11” mono would be great to see compared to your GPX with the 11”. Thanks for the video!
Great video! Thank you for your attention to detail. Currently I'm weighing in on either a sdc or gpx as my first detector for placer channels here in Cassiar, BC.
The post-glacio-fluvial boulder-runs are typically 30-60cm deep. The gold is mostly spherical/flat and well-travelled, like smooth oats weighing on average from 0.08 to 0.3g. Magnetite is always present, but especially concentrated when gold is present. Any/all feedback much appreciated.
So the gold starts at 30cm deep, or do the runs start at the surface and dip to 30-60cm? Smooth and well travelled gold is usually easier to detect, unless it is very thin and on edge. But for that type of gold you are going to get better depth with a GPX 5000. If you are not in a rush, wait till the 6000 is available and see what it can do on small gold.
@@diggingwithphasetechThe gold is within/between the boulders, which are easily traceable even under thick moss and undergrowth, as the runs wander like a convex snake above the adjacent ground. Such deposits are formed under kms of ice, where the water and material migrate under enormous head/pressure. Besides these features on my claim, there are virtually countless unexplored bedrock showings in the surrounding mountains and streams which are waiting for the snow to melt. Thank you for your recommendation and input. It seemed to me the SD is perhaps a bit easier to start off with, and there just happened to be one for sale here, for a reasonable price 2600 Au dollars. With any luck and much adventure, perhaps the next one will be said gpx6000. Keep your videos coming pal. Much appreciated.
If you put sensitivity on 5 on sdc does it make a difference?
It can make a slight difference but only if EMI levels are low, and it doesn't start reacting to the ground. 5 does sound louder though.
With your experience with both the GPX 5000 and SDC 2300 which would you rather have. I bought a new SDC 2300 2 months ago hasn't found any gold yet lots of lead and bullet casings but my friend just got a used GPX 5000 with 2 coils, harness with speaker, it's in perfect condition someone bought it and used it a few times he said he would trade me if I wanted to. What's your opinion ? Should I. I like that the GPX has so many coils to use. Thanks. Great video
Thanks for watching. If I really wanted to find a bit of gold, I would go to some shallow and hot ground and grab the SDC2300. It's ability to sniff out a bit of gold in difficult conditions is well proven. But, if I could only have one or the other, I'd probably have to say the 5000. Just far more versatile with endless coil options, coil switching, selectable timings etc etc. You just have to be content with the fact you'll probably be walking over gold that the 2300 would pick up, but you will also get the bigger deeper bits that the 2300 would leave behind.
@@diggingwithphasetech thanks this is the information I've been looking for thank you so much
No problem
@@rollandsaxton Rolland! I've watched this video by Phase Tech twice,great video! I am personally still on the fence between the 2.I believe if you could only have 1 machine then going with the 5k and picking up the little 12x8 evolution coil sounds like a great way to go when in areas with only small gold,we learn alot from our Australian friends for sure!😀
Good vid mate love all the vids u post great work 👍
I'm curious to see if you'll do the same test again with the newer evo coils or elite coils ? Or not much improvement you think
I have done quite a bit of testing but have not put videos up. The Evo/Elite/Ultra coils have improved the GPX's noticeably on some of that hard to see gold, but the SDC still wins on a lot of it. So results really come down to the type of gold, sometimes the SDC wins, and sometimes the GPXs will be better. 12x8" Evo in Fine Gold will get you the closest to SDC sensitivity.
Ive found gold as small as 0.15 in fine gold and setting not too far from standard but only in mullocks, would sensitive extra hear anything smaller? Or that's about the 5000 limits?
@@troyarnott4588 Sens Extra has a little more depth, particularly with larger coils, but I think Fine Gold wins on sensitivity to the smallest pieces. The smallest I've found with the 5000 is 0.06g.
How would you compare the two on very fine/small jewelry? I have been told the SDC wins.
Yes, my money is on the SDC. Works great at the beach if you have the patience to dig hair pins and small bits of wire.
Hi Nenad,
what headphones you using in this video or what you using currently?
Thanks
In this vid I'm using Technics dj headphones - very good sound, but are not comfortable for long use. These days I'm using Recon ST's, and have a couple different ones in the bag for back ups.
Great machine do you still use it.
Mainly using the 7000 and 6000 for gold these days. Still have the 2300 and 4500 in the arsenal though. 2300 for really bad mineralised clay areas, and 4500 when I want to use a specific coil.
does that thing detect gold ring in parks?
Any metal detector can detect gold rings but in parks, you will have a lot of other junk lying around. So generally you want a detector that is more suited to coin and relic detecting, as they have very good target discriminators.
Interesting comparison video.Would have been interesting to backfill the hole and compress the earth back down and see what the signal for the 11" sounded like.Maybe you could do an air versus soil penetration comparison video.Would be interesting to see if any difference at all.Cheers.
Not a lot of difference to be honest. Once the soil is disturbed, whether it's loose soil or air is pretty much the same. Unless there's some nasty hot rocks in the dirt. The best test beds are those made with intent where you know they won't be dug up by anyone, and where you can leave them for 6 months, so the soil has a chance to naturally settle. Even better, natural un-dug targets. But the problem with that is you don't know what you are testing for until you dig it up. I do know that natural targets can be detected deeper than an air test once they are recovered. Have seen evidence of that many times over the years.
Hey mate newbie wants to buy one of these which one would you recommend?
If you want a point n shoot detector that rarely misses, even in well worked areas, go for the SDC. If you like the idea of having a few different coils at your disposal, and are happy to get out and prospect, then the versatility of the 5000 is still unmatched.
@TheInkinJapan also sdc is waterproof
You didn't set the noise interference on the sdc properly at the start
I didn't do it at all on camera. I can't remember now but if the threshold was erratic when I got there, I would have done a noise cancel. If the threshold is nice and stable as it is in the video, then the Noise Cancel won't do anything. You actually run the risk of it going worse.
Conclusion?
SDC better on low conductive gold (reefy, prickly, specimens etc), and GPX better on solid lumpy gold. GPX is more versatile with its huge range of coils and adjustable timings.
Thx for the answer ^^
How deep can gpx 5000 go?
With a 20" mono or 25" DD coil, the 5000 can punch to 5ft deep on a fairly large object.
A cuantos. Centímetros O metros dé profundidad son ésos equipos.
Lo siento, no se midieron las profundidades exactas.
my old gp3000 would of picked up both bits of gold with the little joey coil on 100% great video but 👍 I understand what your getting at
Great comparison mate
The technology isn't as good as everyone makes out full stop, you would think detectors would have come further over the years no real difference than an old SD or GP really.
Thanks. But I think detectors have come a long way. Maybe on big solid multi ounce lumps there hasn't been a big increase since the SD/GP days, but on specimens and reef gold, there has been a huge depth increase, especially with the 7000.
LoVe your work
Thanks for watching!
You know the 5000 with a mono will give a false signal over a HOLE, it's probably not the target, you should have taken the target away.
In theory yes, but in all my years testing stuff, I dig a hole and go over it and have never got a signal off the hole. Old detector holes that have been filled in though are notorious for giving false signals.
I have used the sdc with the supplied headphones about ten times, and they have already FAILED! am a pensioner and can't afford to be rough on my gear, so I am very careful with my equipment. Having to pay to get them fixed is frustrating to say the least. Doggerbob
9 inch coiltek elite for small targets at maximum depth. Forget those other coils.
If I want max punch on small gold on a GPX series machines these days, then I strap on the 12x8" Evo. But when I did this video, the new series of coils were not out yet.
i could have picked up that target on my sdc2300 first thing you need to do is a noise canceller to get the machine quiet so you can hear the target and then play with the settings just as you do on the gpx im sure that you would not have got a target if you turned your gpx on an expect it to find gold
I've been using that test piece for many years, and I can assure you the GPX sees it deeper than an SDC. Especially with the new range of coils. I recently picked up several bits under 0.5grams with a 14x9" evolution coil at depths that an SDC just couldn't touch. Ask anyone who has experience with both units. If you want to read how to get the best from the SDC2300, read my blog: phasetechnical.com.au/blog-2/
Hi guys I’m a still trying to decide between the gpx 4500 or sdc 2300 to be my first detector most of my detecting will be mt browne( near tibbooburra) and the golden triangle
🤦♂️
SDC is the ultimate clean up detector. Even going on previously worked ground, if you detect low and slow you will always pull a few bits - trouble is sometimes they are tiny. The GPX4500 when fitted with a 12x8" or 14x9" evo is ridiculously sensitive, and will punch deeper on larger gold than the SDC. You can also swing faster due to being able increase the motion speed.
That guy don't know phase TECH. He's been working for minelab for quite sometime.It til he went on his own and he still test for minelab
Yes worked for Minelab for 12 yrs. Then went on my own doing training and started selling a few items. Some years later I became a Minelab agent.
It's funny when people say they can pick a .3 at 2 foot, maybe the hole they dug was 2 foot deep but the nugget certainly wasn't that deep 😂
Detectors are getting better all the time, but we're not quite at that capability yet. The question is, would you dig a 2 ft hole for $30? 😎
@@diggingwithphasetech I've dug deepers holes for worse worse 😂
Yeah true!
ummm interesting thanks
The sdc does exactly as it’s designed to do
Spot on!