Good honest vid Nenad. I’ve seen and read a lot of info regarding auto+ no threshold vs manual (with threshold), but there is no mention of volume. You can’t run manual sensitivity with max volume, BUT you can with no threshold. I run auto+ (no threshold) with detector volume max and avantree torus neck speaker on max and it’s unbelievable what depth I have got when working a patch. Of course a lot comes into play from day to day emi, high mineralisation, your hearing etc. I have found a .4 at 11” and then a .1 at 9”!!!measured by taking out around an inch of dirt at a time. Even turning the detector volume down one notch and I would lose the signal which was only heard sweeping the coil in one direction only, and would balance out after 2-3 sweeps. Ground balance and the signal is there again. Just a very tiny repeatable chirp. You cannot compare a target with manual sensitivity and auto+ with the same volume. Auto+ (no threshold) has to have max volume on detector and external speaker. I use avantree torus speaker on max volume so I don’t know how it works with anything else. It doesn’t work just with detector speaker. I continue sometimes running manual on targets and have yet found nothing that that auto+ doesn’t pick up easily. Try it
Great video. I was really thinking about getting a 6000 but ended up getting the Algoforce mainly to Id lead shot. But it's impressive to see it gets that bit almost as good as the 6000 . I've got a 6"x9" Sadie but now I want a flat wound 9" lol . Thanks for sharing
If you want to run your own external speaker, then like most detectors you need a good booster. If you want to enhance the audio with headphones, then I recommend the sP01.
Great Video, I’ve just ordered a 1500 & eagerly awaiting its delivery, I have a phase tec sp01 from my older machine, would you recommend running this on the new 1500 ? Cheers Daz
On small roughly circular pieces of gold, when using a round mono coil, the direction of swing will make very little difference. But, if the gold is an irregular shape and even more so if you are using an elliptical mono, then the direction of swing can make all the difference.
@@Gardener7 The 6000 will likely do better on bigger deeper. Depending on what you mean by big chunk though, a 7000 or 5000 will likely outdo the 6000. BennyProspector has a good video on a range of bigger targets.
The 6000 will punch deeper, it's also more automated being locked in ground tracking and having Auto Sensitivity options. However, it's also nearly 4 times the price!! AlgoForce is better in high EMI environments and can use a huge range of coils which are cheaper than 6000 accessory coils. The AlgoForce also has an adjustable threshold, threshold tone, Audio Treble, handle vibration and conductive Target ID which the 6000 doesn't have. So if you have a big budget and like the idea of switch on, noise cancel, pump coil and go, then go the 6000. If you'd rather buy something a lot cheaper that is still a capable machine, and more user customisable in terms of coils, size of power bank etc. then go the E1500.
With the Algo, were you on ultra fine or fine gold? I think the Algo is pretty good. It’s not going to break new ground over the 6000 though. I think for the price it’s well worth its money. There is a bit of bullshit being said by resellers of its depth capabilities though. You have tested, I have tested and we are getting similar results. Then someone will like double the depth that we are seeing and done, new users want to believe that, as you would. Be honest guys.
@@diggingwithphasetech people can’t do their own testing prior to purchasing. That’s why we need to show the reality of what is the likely expectation. Of course, different ground, different coils will bring in variables. But a reseller saying to a potential buyer, it can detect to 500mm. .
Honesty is everything in this industry. With a 15 or 16" NF, I can air test an aussie 5c at 33 cm. Lightness, ground handling, sensitivity, adjustability and price are its strong points.
Probably. High Freq VLF units excel on that type of gold, but mineralisation is always the opposing factor. They can't punch through high iron soils like Pulse Induction units can.
Thanks Nenad
Good honest vid Nenad.
I’ve seen and read a lot of info regarding auto+ no threshold vs manual (with threshold), but there is no mention of volume. You can’t run manual sensitivity with max volume, BUT you can with no threshold. I run auto+ (no threshold) with detector volume max and avantree torus neck speaker on max and it’s unbelievable what depth I have got when working a patch. Of course a lot comes into play from day to day emi, high mineralisation, your hearing etc. I have found a .4 at 11” and then a .1 at 9”!!!measured by taking out around an inch of dirt at a time. Even turning the detector volume down one notch and I would lose the signal which was only heard sweeping the coil in one direction only, and would balance out after 2-3 sweeps. Ground balance and the signal is there again. Just a very tiny repeatable chirp. You cannot compare a target with manual sensitivity and auto+ with the same volume. Auto+ (no threshold) has to have max volume on detector and external speaker. I use avantree torus speaker on max volume so I don’t know how it works with anything else. It doesn’t work just with detector speaker. I continue sometimes running manual on targets and have yet found nothing that that auto+ doesn’t pick up easily. Try it
@@AU-kid yes that all makes sense. Use what works and what you are comfortable/ confident with.
Mite be worth a try. What coil you running?
Gpx11. Would work with any coil I imagine.
Great video. I was really thinking about getting a 6000 but ended up getting the Algoforce mainly to Id lead shot. But it's impressive to see it gets that bit almost as good as the 6000 . I've got a 6"x9" Sadie but now I want a flat wound 9" lol . Thanks for sharing
Nice one. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I'll reply to your other one re the coil.
Their is an audio booster algoforce also sales to help with audio on the side.
If you want to run your own external speaker, then like most detectors you need a good booster. If you want to enhance the audio with headphones, then I recommend the sP01.
Could you control the volume through the headphone if they have a volume control then.
Incase a person don't want t o hear it to loud or in certain situations where they need to be louder on faint signals.
Like my gray ghost headpjones.
@@Robert-t1p Yes of course. There is also a built in volume control which is independent of the threshold level.
Thanks Nenad / Looking forward to the reviews of the NF 12x7" 5 pin prototype coil that Maurice Coppola has used, should be a winner for sure.
Yeah I've used the older 12x7" Advantage on the E1500 and that's a great match. A newer version would be most welcome.
Hi Nenad, great test mate
Honest test 👍
Thanks 👍
Very interesting difference in .085 vs 0.1.
Yes, every piece of natural gold is unique.
Thanks for sharing good info
No worries. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Slight hi-jack, how does it stack up against the GPX 5000? Is it a better mouse-trap?
E1500 is better on very small gold and specimens. 5000 will find bigger gold at a greater depth.
Great Video, I’ve just ordered a 1500 & eagerly awaiting its delivery, I have a phase tec sp01 from my older machine, would you recommend running this on the new 1500 ?
Cheers
Daz
Sorry Steel phase sp01
@@Dazv07 yes you can do. Gives you a lot more control over the audio.
Nenad, what if you came over it at 90*?
On small roughly circular pieces of gold, when using a round mono coil, the direction of swing will make very little difference. But, if the gold is an irregular shape and even more so if you are using an elliptical mono, then the direction of swing can make all the difference.
gracias buen video
The coiltech is a lot sharper for sure
Got a few scrubby areas where I'd like to give it a swing. Might be a bit easier to poke around compared to the 11".
I would be very interested to see which is better at detecting a big chunk at 50cm or more.
@@Gardener7 The 6000 will likely do better on bigger deeper. Depending on what you mean by big chunk though, a 7000 or 5000 will likely outdo the 6000. BennyProspector has a good video on a range of bigger targets.
@@diggingwithphasetech I was wondering if this E1500 would miss deeper targets, even if they are big nuggets.
Is the AlgoForce 1500 worth buying vs the minelab gpx 6000?
The 6000 will punch deeper, it's also more automated being locked in ground tracking and having Auto Sensitivity options. However, it's also nearly 4 times the price!! AlgoForce is better in high EMI environments and can use a huge range of coils which are cheaper than 6000 accessory coils. The AlgoForce also has an adjustable threshold, threshold tone, Audio Treble, handle vibration and conductive Target ID which the 6000 doesn't have. So if you have a big budget and like the idea of switch on, noise cancel, pump coil and go, then go the 6000. If you'd rather buy something a lot cheaper that is still a capable machine, and more user customisable in terms of coils, size of power bank etc. then go the E1500.
With the Algo, were you on ultra fine or fine gold?
I think the Algo is pretty good. It’s not going to break new ground over the 6000 though. I think for the price it’s well worth its money.
There is a bit of bullshit being said by resellers of its depth capabilities though. You have tested, I have tested and we are getting similar results. Then someone will like double the depth that we are seeing and done, new users want to believe that, as you would. Be honest guys.
Ultra Fine. Depth is a tricky one, as there's so many variables. I'll let people do their own testing on that or let the videos do the talking.
@@diggingwithphasetech people can’t do their own testing prior to purchasing. That’s why we need to show the reality of what is the likely expectation. Of course, different ground, different coils will bring in variables. But a reseller saying to a potential buyer, it can detect to 500mm.
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Honesty is everything in this industry. With a 15 or 16" NF, I can air test an aussie 5c at 33 cm. Lightness, ground handling, sensitivity, adjustability and price are its strong points.
@@diggingwithphasetechSo would it detect a 1 Oz nugget at 50cm?
@@Gardener7 It's not a deep machine for bigger targets, I think that would be beyond its limits.
Türkiyede bu makine yok minelap gpx serileri var
Evet, E1500 yalnızca Avustralya ve Yeni Zelanda'da satıldı. Umarız bu kısıtlama çok yakında sona erer.
@diggingwithphasetech gpx derilerine yakinmi derili coiltek başlıklar uyumlu acaba bu makineye
Gold monster would give it a run for its money on the first nugget.
Probably. High Freq VLF units excel on that type of gold, but mineralisation is always the opposing factor. They can't punch through high iron soils like Pulse Induction units can.
Yes gold monster on that small taget would have eaten both machines hands down 👍👍👍👍👍👍