23. SHOULD I BUY an electric outboard? | Torqeedo electric outboard review | Torqeedo 1003 review
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2019
- We have had our Torqeedo Travel 1003 for 8 months and our subscribers have requested a video about it and we have had many others interested in it. So here is an unpaid video of our experience with it, the positives and the negatives. We hope it is helpful and please feel free to ask any questions.
Torqeedo website: www.torqeedo.com/en
About us:
Our names are Jason and Tracey and we traded our house, cars, business, job and security for freedom, adventure, travel and living simply amongst nature and the seas on our 45 foot Hanse 445 sailing boat, Kawai.
We don't know exactly where the winds will take us at this stage but over the next year we hope to sail to Turkey, Greece, Montenegro, Croatia, Italy, Spain, Morocco, Gibraltar, Canary Islands and then across the Atlantic Ocean.
Jase loves making travel videos and we decided to upload to youtube to share our adventure. We really hope you enjoy and feel free to drop us a comment any time to chat or subscribe to follow along :)
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I bought mine in 2014 and I've never had any problems running it in saltwater. No error messages, no breaking pins, nothing! I've never maintained it in any way. It's been great. It even gets me and my little boat to plane! Also it gets A LOT of attention.
Yes we have loved out Torqeedo and always get plenty of questions hahaha. Glad you have had a good experience like we have. Thanks for your comment!
Very informative! Great video guys.
Hey Julz :):) thank you, you in the market for an electric outboard :P ?
Excellent informative video! Thinking of buying one of these and this was very helpful!
Thanks Jerome, hopefully it helped, we have had a great experience. Best of luck and thanks for watching :)
Congratulations! First video, excelente! I’ll be back!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
Nice demo! Thank you!
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Good review, i've just bought a Torqeedo for my Drascombe coaster and although ive only used it a few times, i'm very happy with it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the review and are happy with the Torqeedo, thanks for watching!
Your video was great.Thanks Mel
You’re welcome 😊, thanks very much Mel!
Great thanks for sharing the review, very helpful
No worries Michael 👍
So glad that I stumbled upon this video! I've just bought an ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 Plus which as twice the range of yours but shares the same advantages. The light bulb moment for me was seeing you you secure the motor to the transom by locking the two mounting clamps together. Why didn't I think of this??!! Thanks guys.
Extremely helpful thank you ❤️
Glad you enjoyed the video and it helped :). Thanks for watching and the kind words!
Thanks that’s really great good work
Thank you John :) hope all is going well with you.
great video guys! thanks!
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
I got a Torqeedo 1003 travel I’m so happy with it
Thanks for the feedback :) Glad you love it like us!
I had one for a couple of years. Loved it. Sold it with my boat.
Thanks for the feedback Jaime!
👍 thanks I was wondering about that .
No worries Dusty, thanks for watching :)
Very Interesting. Thank You
Thanks Daniel, happy you found it interesting 😃
Great video, thanks.
Thanks Peter :) Glad you enjoyed!
Bought mine March 2020 for $2K. Have used it a dozen times so far ' on the Potomac when the wind died for our 19' day sailor-- 4 miles against the tide and current last week and only used 80%. The ONLY drawback found is the price, but once you realize the versatility, light weight, and ease of re-charging at home, you'll never complain. The E30 error pops up once or twice, but only requires a quick re-connect. We store the shaft/prop in an old duffel on board and an old gym bag that holds the battery and tiller to take home. Run it at mid-speed and it will last no prob, full-throttle it and, yes, you'll run it down fast, but once you get moving, power down and you'll be fine. Not having to haul/store cans of gas or hoisting a 70lb massive marine battery will again compensate for the cost.
Thanks for the feedback Paul, we have had a similar experience, really happy so far :)
Great review. The Torqueedo's are pretty cool. I love the quiet operation. As a sailor of over 3 decades, I would recommend you also have a petrol outboard that can get your tender on plane (5-6 hp). You probably have room on your rail. Careful boating can reduce the frequency of emergencies, but they still happen. If you have a medical emergency, the speed of the tender can mean life or death. The environmental impact of a small modern petrol outboard is small because the motors are small and they barely use any fuel. A lifetime of use is less than one plane ride or a couple months of driving a car. And if the petrol engine is your "backup" then the environmental impact is almost zero.
We've had a thru-hull break and the speed of the tender saved our sailboat. I sped in to shore for parts while my parents fought a losing battle of leak vs. bilge pumps. I personally know TWO different people who've raced a loved one to the shore/ambulance in the tender. Things like that are rare, but they happen. You are a lot more self-reliant on the water.
Hi Jay, thanks for the comment, all really good points which make a lot of sense. When making the review we were hoping for great comments with differing opinions/experiences like your comment. We were give the Torqueedo with our boat purchase so just wanted to give our experience of the electric outboard. Thanks for the input and its definitely something to consider :)
this is awesome video..what a btful example of what I needed in real life..on inlet but deep
water bay area,since I want the same set up..
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! Really glad the video helped, thanks for watching!
Interesting to hear about the motor and the details.
No worries Lawrence, glad you enjoyed it and hopefully it helped you. Thanks for watching :)
That was very helpful. My 3.5 HP Tohatsu won't start half the time, and is hard as hell to start in any event. I am getting a Torqueedo.
Glad it helped :). Hope you love the Torqueedo and have a great experience like we have! Thanks for watching
Buy a Merc!!
Very informative! This seems to be the right choice for me as I need it for getting to shore/boat. Also a nice way to save some cash by not mooring in the town or a marina. Greetings from Croatia
Thanks very much, glad it helped :)
I'm so interested in this boat. I would want the one with the e propulsion engine. How far is the electric engine and how far is the engine to the ground. I can't talk correctly due to brame damage but I will get better, please understand.
The cost?
My share pin shared and could not remove the propellor because the shaft turned with the nut. Had to disassemble the motor to repair. I put a hack saw slot at the end of the shaft to fit a screw driver to let me remove the prop in the future. Share pins expensive so cut off a few bits of 3mm brass rod. My battery charger supplied with the motor failed and now use a 12v power pack that charges ok and 1/10th the price. I also have a12v Minn Kota that I use an 18v Lipo battery with, and it is brilliant.
Hi Stuart, thank you for sharing your experience and work arounds :)
Hilarious and informative, loved it!
Haha :) happy you enjoyed Jase mate! Thanks for your comment!
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I have had one for 4 yrs now. I have added a string to the battery lock and attached it to the battery. I also use 12v cable with a cigarette lighter. It charges over night.
Thanks Mark, appreciate the feedback and tips :)
Thanks for the video, is the prop on a short or long drive/mount?
Wow....awsome bro....
Thanks 🤗
We own the same setup with a spare battery because one of us works onshore so the dinghy must be ready to go. Lots of e30 errors and a couple others as well so bought a spare tiller cause like I said, it’s got to be ready to go. Constant replacement of pins and no, we haven’t hit anything or snagged anything. Torqeedo solar panel ended up fried, one battery died. Torqeedo offered “to look” at both but we live in an island area with no Torqeedo support so the costs are prohibitive to ship. The items aren’t quite 2 years old yet....don’t think much of Torqeedo’s customer service as their reply: “Gee whiz, sorry for the trouble, don’t know what it could be and you should get 4-6 years of battery life!” So, beware of needing service and how you may or may not get the support depending on your location. For us it seemed to be the answer to not having to stow fuel onboard, light weight and easy to handle, no fumes and quiet so we sacrificed spending on other items so we could buy it. We just bought another battery and Torqeedo did offer it at a lower price because of our problems but we have to pay hazmat shipping charges ourselves to get it down island-very expensive proposition. Would we do it again? Not sure. Will we keep it? Not sure, and that’s based on mediocre customer service and support.
Thanks for your comment, hopefully this helps different people decide the setup they go with. We have been lucky with very few problems, hopefully this continues. Best of luck in the future :)
Great informational vlog thank you ...
Now if you attached it to your yacht could it slowly push ya along ?
Im looking for something electric to cruise my narrowboat ... I'm on inland waterways only..
Hi Jason, thanks for getting in contact and glad you enjoyed the video. We haven't tried but if it did it would be slow going. There are more powerful models that we could purchase for the yacht. Hope this helps, thanks for watching!
Hope that you enjoy your time in Montenegro
Hi Zeljko, we did, thanks very much :)
I bought my 3hp long shaft Torqeedo in January 2020. Within 2 weeks the plastic battery moulding which holds the plastic hinge pin had broken. I was very careful to handle it carefully and never let anyone else use it. Torqeedo are arguing that it is not a warrantee issue. The hinge mechanism which lifts the prop out of the water fell apart due to the circlips falling off. I was able to fix it using a piece of wood and cable ties. It was left on my punt on the mooring for a day while I went fishing. On return the motor had worked the transom screws loose with the motion of the waves and had fallen into the water, hanging by a rope. Water had got into the battery so the battery is ruined. I am in dispute with the dealer and Torqeedo over these issues. I would warn anyone considering buying one. They need to be handled with great care as the design and engineering have very basic flaws. Sadly Torqeedo do not seem to be interested in looking after their customers. £1800 is a lot to spend for an unreliable engine. I dread to think what a new battery is going to cost me!
Hi Mark, sorry to hear, not great feedback from customer service. Appreciate you giving your experience and providing information for those looking at an electric engine. Best of luck and thanks again :)
We own a Torqeedo 1003 and can endorse all your comments. The most irritating thing is bad connections with those connectors... We don't always get SoG until disconnected and reconnected.
We had a prop strike on a hidden rock and sheered the pin. €1.15 to buy a new pin but €15 delivery, yes €15, for something the size of a panel pin if you buy from Torqeedo. The pin is also prone to corrosion and can stick in the shaft so advice removing it everyone once in a while and cleaning it up. Minor irritations a side it is way better than a petrol engine for steady, short journeys to and from the boat.
Hi and thanks for your comment. Wow they really sting you :(. Yes agree, perfect for short distances to and from the shore. We are a year in now and so far so good. Hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching :)
I haven't had any problems with mine, except when I hit a rock in Stockholm and broke my propeller and didn't have my paddle with me so I had to drive all the way back with half a propeller.
The turning issue is the same with a small gas motor. It’s a power/torque issue. Not an electric motor issue.
Hi Lucas, thanks for your comment, yeah we thought that may be the case so thank you for confirming!
You could always move to the other side of the tender, right?
Haha, yep :)
@@SailingKawai Its the boat not the motor. The flat bottom does not create a very good pivot point in the water hence the reason you are pushed around more than you would be in a v-bottomed hull.
Nice detailed video...can you advise how long your dinghy is and what the brand is. Also, how did you get boat name to stick on the dinghy? Thanks.
Hi and thanks for watching. Although we did manage to get our name to stick on the dingy for a season it's has finally started to peel off hahaha. Our tender is a highfield brand and approximately 2m in length, pretty small. Hope that helps, glad you enjoyed the video!
thank you
No worries at all, hope you enjoyed the video :)
Hi there. Nice review. Also, what solar flexible array do you have on your boat? And what's the watch jase is using? Regards
Hi and glad you enjoyed the video :). We are actually replacing the solar panels that are stitched into the bimini. We are getting some hard solar panels placed at the back of the boat, however we haven't decided on the brand yet as we are currently in Australia due to covid-19. We will be back in Turkey in March and look forward to getting back on the water. Jase has a Garmin Quatix watch :). Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@@SailingKawai are hard better than flexible? Regards
Wahooo!
It's probably not technical enough for you Nick haha, hope you enjoyed it though :)
Very nice video format. I was smiling throughout and learnt something in the process 👍
Hi Huzefa, hope you're well :) Happy to hear you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching as always
Hi Guys we have the same motor and did a review of ours on the first run. I will be doing a further review now 9 months later.
I to had the error problem and found that over tightening the connections can cause this. I also find the throttle not very responsive but the main drawback for me is the fact without a second battery I cannot use the motor everyday as it seems to take about 24 hours to recharge on solar...
Everything else is just great and the few minor problems have not put me off at all and I just love that I dont need to carry petrol anymore....
Hello :) thank you for watching and letting us know about your experience. Interesting about the connections being too tight, we'll take that into consideration in the future. Hmm that's quite a while for the solar, is that your boat solar or the portable Torqeedo solar panels? Yeah no petrol is such a strong positive and they both have their positives and negatives. Thank you for following along, we have also subscribed to you guys.
@@SailingKawai hiya, thanks for the sub x. Yes I have the bigger battery as my mooring is on the river Dart atm I have a 2mile each way to town and a strong tide so if I'm pushing it against wind and tide I can use most of my battery in 1 trip to town.
No worries :) Oh okay fair enough, makes sense, we don't usually go quite that far.
How long the average recharge for 1. solar 2. the portable solar 3. plug it in? Thanks for an informative video
Hi Manuel, that's a tough question, if we just use it a couple of times during the day to go ashore, it might only take 10 minutes. Usually we use it for a few days then top up the power if we need to motor somewhere in the yacht via the inverter. Same applies with solar we charge up the batteries then turn on the inverter and it's usually full in an hour. I believe we once drained the battery completely when we first received the battery and it took 7 hours to fully charge. Can't help regarding the portable solar, don't have it. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching :)
Wow nice
Thanks very much :)
Thanks for the video. I am considering getting an electric outboard atm since my old 2 stroke outboard broke down. What do you think about cheaper models/brands? I already have a battery. Any recommendations or tips to look at?
Hi and glad you enjoyed it! We really don't have much experience with other electric outboards sorry, wish we could help :). Good luck and thanks for watching!
Anyone who is interested in my question: I have found that the Minnkota EO Models do offer what I was asking for - engines that don't come with a battery like the Torqueedos do (because I already have a battery). Maybe there is other brands as well. I ordered one and will test if it has enough power to bring me ashore once at anchor...
Nice trolling motor
Yes we have trolled with it, worked well :)
Thanks
No worries Neil, hope you enjoyed the video :)
What dinghy do you use?
Hi guys!! Thanks so much for this video review, it was exactly what we needed. We have a stinky outboard, which we’ve never really made friends with, despite treating it well!! We LOVE the idea of a Torqeedo, but worried mainly about battery recharging... can we ask what solar input and inverter setup you have? You mentioned you could charge it from the boat?? Also how well does battery hold charge when not in use? Many thanks in advance! Liked and subscribed :) Kath and T xxx
Hey guys, how are you? No worries at all, we enjoyed making the video, lots of out takes hahaha. For us we have solar panels (400w) and a diesel generator. The solar panels alone would be enough though. We have a Victron 12V 70amp inverter. Unless you go on a long trip at a fast speed, the battery lasts a long time. If you are motoring your boat at any time you would also plug it in to power with the inverter. We just top it up every day and we haven't been caught out since the first day we used it hahaha. In regards to the battery losing charge, can't really answer that one as we use it most days and it doesn't seem to lose charge during that time. Hope that helps and feel free to ask any more questions if you have any. :) Where are you guys currently? Will follow you guys
Sailing Kawai heeey!! Thanks so much! This is really helpful :) we’re keen to go for it... just a big coat upfront so doing the research :) thanks for the follow! We’re in Greece at the moment, in the Aegean! Waiting for wind to pass!! ☺️ will keep following you! Thank you!!
It's a lithium ion battery, so it won't loose a significant amount of charge over time unless subjected to very cold temperatures.
Gr8 idea im thinking sealed batteries in floor... Go ALLDAY !! At least spare batt n solar panels. 😆 NOOYYYCE !! hehe
Hahaha sounds like a winner!
Got to watch your weight normally small inflatables 200kg max
@@joking7081 Sounds like your brain inflated by CNN. Normal for libtard derps.
wondering about the 'waterproof' have you dunked it ?
Hi Titus, good question, we haven't dunked it fully but have left it out in heavy rain without the cover on a couple of times and no issues. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching :)
@@SailingKawai I know it would risky (if not foolish) to dunk it just to see if it is waterproof, but just watched a sv zingaro video where they had dunked their two-stroke many times before it finally wouldn't work...
it would be great benefit to have a motor that could handle this...
Haha yeah would be a great benefit but we won't be trying that sorry, new outboard is not in the budget!
I have an epropulsion 1.0 plus. It’s similar, but cheaper. I love it
Thanks for getting in contact, I will check them out! :)
@@SailingKawai with the benefit of hindsight I’d probably get a Navy model. Not at all unhappy with what I have, but never say no to the extra power
Do you have a comparison of maintenance cost over a 10 year lifespan? I'm guessing that the battery lasts longer than 10 years, do you have any info? I can't see any on their website.
I would say that new plugs and oil and fuel and possibly a water pump cost would be offset by a new battery.
We have a Bison 68lb, but get frustrated by the weight of the battery. It's a much cheaper option (About £280 with the battery and box) but takes longer to set up. We do use the battery to supplement our domestic bank when not in use, so there's an advantage there. I also had to shorten the shaft length to stop it kicking the shaft from horizontal, but that was an easy job.
Hey Andrew, no we don't have that info sorry, would be good to know. As you said, I would say a replacement battery would be cheaper even just with the cost of fuel especially if you already have solar etc onboard. Good to hear about your Bison, sounds like it's also a good option and has some good reviews online. Thanks for your input, appreciate it.
I've had it for over six years and I only broke a propeller, because it hit some rocks. I've never done any maintenance to it.
Nice video seems a great alternative 👍👍
Hi Chad, yeah we think it is, thank you and cheers for watching :)
Thanks for the review. I like the idea of these electric motors but will probably buy a good size petrol powered outboard to go with our tender. Here's why. The outboard is in fact an auxiliary engine for the yacht, to be used when the main engine fails at a critical time, such as when approaching an anchorage or entering a harbour, or when the yacht has run aground, say, on a coral reef or sandbank. For these circumstances the power and endurance of petrol outboard with a tender can be the difference between sneaking away from disaster or experiencing it full on.
Hello, thanks for watching and your comment, appreciate your perspective and it's a good point. We are hoping to avoid such a situation haha but isn't everyone!
That’s a great point, how would that work in practice? WOuld you try to mount it behind the boat or get in the dinghy and try to pull on the boat using the dinghy somehow?
@@leontedev Hi Mihai. People often try to pull their yacht with their tender, in an emergency, but a much better method is to push the yacht, if possible. My yacht, a Garcia Exploration, has a bracket low on the transom that the outboard can be mounted on, with the prop in the water. Auxiliary engine!
@@Valden23 Wow - you have my dream boat. But for now I am looking to buy either a Beneteau Oceanis 393 or Dufour 385 (year around 2005). And sail the Med for a few years. Thank you for the answer! Having a bracket installed for this purpose sounds like a smart thing to do! This is my biggest concern as a new captain, my main engine dying on me.
@@leontedev I’ve seen intermittent engine failures drive captains crazy. It’s a big worry, not being sure that your Diesel engine will work. Having an outboard as an auxiliary is a handy backup; one we hope and plan not to need. 🙂
Are you guys in montenegro on that video?
Hey guys, yes it was videoed in Kotor Montenegro :)
Delightfully objective! TY super sick of discussions that are more like a propaganda exercise.
Hi David, thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :)
Thiking of getting one for my Foxcub18
Yeah she's not fast but reliable :)
Do you use this outboard on your actual sailboat or just the dinghy? If on sailboat, does it work good on the big boat?
Hi AJ, we only use our electric outboard on the tender. There are more powerful electric engines however our boat came with a large engine. This size outboard would not be suitable for a sailboat, especially our boat as it weighs approximately 10 Tonne. Torqeedo has a variety of outboards on their website with examples. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
I bought a replacement Torqueedo 1103CS after our last one got stolen this year. I’ve had the new one for only 8 weeks and yesterday when I was heading ashore it refused to switch on. As I’ve used a Torqueedo for 2 seasons now I would say we are experienced using one however I’m now beginning to have regrets buy another one after this failure. I’m in the Balearics Islands I. The Mediterranean and even though it’s one of the most popular sailing destinations there is no service Centre here. As we have guests joining us in less than a week it’s unlikely we’ll be able to resolve this quickly and getting it returned will not be straightforward or quick. The only solution we may have is buy another motor (probably a reliable Honda ) which if it broken down getting someone to fix it would be simple anywhere in the world. It’s all very well trying to contribute to saving the planet however when they breakdown, even when new, the frustration is just not worth it trying to get them fixed.
Thanks for the feedback Gordon :)
I have the same unit. One huge problem is, when you hit a fishing line or alike, your engine is out. Mine was out to repair for 4 months in Hong Kong. Other than that, everything was great!
Hi Antony, great to hear, always nice to hear positive feedback, thanks for contributing :)
So what about having two batteries for long trips etc
Hi Steve, yes that could definitely work if you have the money. Would make life a little easier as it's very easy to change the battery. Thanks for your comment!
I owned one (Torqeedo 1003L)... in a word, UNRELIABLE. Mine failed twice... and by fail, I mean displayed an error code that rendered the motor useless and leaving me stranded. There is no way to repair these motors... they have to be shipped back to Torqeedo.
Once I received my THIRD motor via warranty, I sold it quickly for half of what I paid and bought a Tohatsu 5hp. Expensive lesson to learn, but at least now I have a decent reliable outboard.
Hi Bryan, oh no, that doesn't sound good. Interesting to hear about your experience and good for others to read about a different experience to us, so thank you for sharing. What year model were they?
@@SailingKawai Purchased 2017, didn't note the manufacture date
Thanks for letting us know Bryan
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For reasons i won't go into i've been alternating between a Torqeedo 1103 and a gas Honda 2.3 on the same boat. I think it's really pretty simple - the Torqeedo is superior in every area except range, but the range is dreadful. If you can be confident this will only be for maneuvering in the harbor, it's Torqeedo all the way. If you feel you might be becalmed miles from home or in too much wind for sailing, the Torqeedo won't get you back.
I own a T1003 as well and in the beginning I found it very unreliable as well. Most error messages were due to a bad connection when plugging in cables which improved after cleaning the connections. I also started rinsing the prop and and shaft pretty much after each saltwater use which has helped decrease the number of error messages. Good thought on the product design, still needs to have some of the kinks ironed out in my opinion. Great video though.
Hi Moritz, thank you for watching and your input, appreciate it. We have only had the error message once in 8 months so it's not been too bad but we are very particular now when we plug it in, sorry to hear yours has been unreliable. We also have a canvas cover which protects it from salt spray and rain so that possibly helps too, as does your washing it down. At the end of the day we have been pretty happy with it (touch wood :)).
Thanks for that information :)
I'm going to look into the software update. Have not considered that so far. However, we had it in the shop about three years ago and nothing was mentioned regarding a firmware update.
I have never had a single error message in 6 years of using the thing.
Avoid stocking it at the back of the boat constantly exposed to sun. With the sun’s uv ray, will degrade the plastic case, especially the controller area.
Thanks for the info, I agree with this, we have purchased a cover which seems to work well however when we didn't have the protection the plastic did degrade. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I'm wondering if anyone reading this has any experience using this engine with a heavier boat like a one-ton sailboat. Is it powerful enough, considering currents and tides? Thanks!
Hi Daniel, I know Torquedo has a variety of engines (Electric). Check out the website for reviews :)
No it isnt powerful enough.
We have the 1003 for our backup. We have a 2 ton sailboat. It will get us around short distances slowly against a 2kt current OR a 10kt wind. For everything else we have the Cruise 4.0.
It is nice, but I need an outboard motor that provides long-distance sea travel and a greater hp to speed up. The two biggest disadvantages are 1. High cost to purchase - it is prohibitively expensive than the outboard gas motor, and 2. Short duration and short-range on sea travel. I plan to go out to the sea on a 14-foot inflatable boat (no RIB) and visit the island from thirty miles offshore, and one place is fifty miles from offshore. The four-stroke gas motor of 20 hp with 15 gallons of fuel would be sufficient. It can allow me to outrun the storm before the big stormy turbulent waves could swallow me into a rough sea and maroon in a sea forever. Holy Stormy Sea Nightmare, Batman!
Yes I agree with your above reasons, definitely not for everyone and depends on your needs. For us we only require to go ashore and small day trips so it's perfect. Thanks for your comments, hope you enjoyed the video :)
Expensive. Nice piece if kit though.
Plastic propeller?
Yes it's not cheap, but we have had a great experience. Yes plastic propeller :)
@@SailingKawai a replacement prop is £90!
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Вопрос на сколько хода хватает зарядки.
Он длится от 30 минут на полной скорости до 8 часов на низких оборотах, надеюсь, что это поможет и спасибо за просмотр :)
Спасибо за ответ.
Для троллинга не пойдёт.
Дня на 2 бы надо.
По 8 часов в сутки идёт троллинговая рыбалка.
А это как докатка в Лодку.
Но ценник.(((
Не для России.
Или только для богатых.
@@user-zh8ii1cj5m Понимаю, да дорого :)
Does the throttle spring back to neutral when released kind of like a motorcycle throttle?
Hi, thanks for the question, no it doesn't, it will maintain the speed. Hope that helps :)
At our house they cut those little handles with lock right off to get a $4000 outboard.
Hi John, wow I hope you had insurance, fortunately we haven't had any issues like that, good to know however, thanks for sharing :)
I have lost a lot of outboard to thieves
Best electric motor in the world.
Hi Dominic, we really like ours, glad you also have had a great experience with yours. Thanks for the comment!
I run a Newport 55 cost $200us off amazon. It powers a 12' inflatable. Less than 5% of the cost.
Thanks for the info Howard, great suggestion :)
I like it but the battery isn't big enough. It's comparable to a petrol outboard with a .5 liter fuel tank.
Yeah I totally understand :)
They break the circuit up into three separate modules so you need to buy their battery which has part of the circuit you need to run it inside. This way you cannot use a generic battery and they charge you $1,000 for their battery. The cells are epoxied into the housing so you can't change them either. They also put the electronic speed control circuit in the lower unit that goes underwater. It leaks and that gets ruined. Repair is about what a new motor costs. They claim 3 horsepower but it only consumes the equivalent of 1.25 horsepower. it cannot produce any more than that, its a 1.25 horsepower motor.
Thanks for the feedback and information, all helpful for people making decisions when considering purchasing :). Cheers
That prop pin sheared on you yet?
Hi and thanks for your question. No we haven't had any real problems as of yet thankfully. What have been your main problems?
@@SailingKawai hi no problems yet but, I can't help but notice the potential pitfalls of this motor. Those connectors are the Achilles heel of this otherwise great motor. I seperate them after every run to pack up the motor back in the car, it just seems that those plastic threads to me anyway are not going to withstand years of connection and disconnection. They are nowhere near robust enough.
You are quoting the price with 2x battery capacity vs what you have
I have a broken cruise 2.0. Found out the hard way these are basicly $4,200 throw away motors. If you need a repair they will not sell you the parts it has to be shipped back, very expensive, not to mention if you did ship it for repairs you wont have a motor for quite some time. The other problem i found was their method of deriving horsepower numbers has nothing to do with real world performance, the motor in this video has nothing close to the power of a 3 hp gas motor. Dont get me wrong, I love the idea of the electric outboard, the companies that build these need to be more forthright in their stats and make motors that are serviceable.
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment and sharing your experience :). Fingers crossed we don't have the same issues.
I also have two Cruise . it seems that i had the same Problems that you had. Now I have two motors for the Recycling Bin,
BOTH have WATER in them.
very informative
thank u
hope the governments/countries support renewable energy more to make it cheaper.
Hello :) yes totally agree, can't happen soon enough! As always thank you for watching :)
The tiller is removable as well!
Yes thats a good point, I didn't mention that :), thanks for the comment!
I'm not a fan of these having a proprietary built-in battery. Range is lacking. You should be able to connect these to any of a multitude of portable power station battery banks (EcoFlow, Bluetti, Jackery, etc).
Technology is changing, when we received it we loved it, easy to charge and no fuel. Getting better and better, still think it's better than fuel :)
I missed what the reason was why the motor did not work the time that you went for a swim
could you say what happened
Hi Steve, it was the first time we had used it and we went a long way from the boat and we had the throttle on full and drained the battery. It was our mistake, we hadn't read the instructions hahaha. Hope that helps :)
Looked like Kotor!
Hi Ben, good pick up, we did film it in Kotor :), hope you enjoyed the video!
My experience with the 1003 has been terrible. I get about 25 minutes on a charge. The big issue is that the motor simply won’t start - it spins for a couple of seconds and then stops,and spins and stops, and takes about three minutes before it decides to start running. I absolutely would not recommend buying a Torqeedo.
Thanks for the feedback Chuck, we are lucky we haven't had these issues :), appreciate the comment!
It may suffice as a toy for rich people but not a serious propulsion system for most users and needs.
Hi good video. I have found electrical trauling motors is just as trustworthy as the batteries. Windy conditions make it difficult to determine how far you will get, it can die without good warning. It is very easy to take 2lt petrol with, spare batteries not so easy. With a molded case battery, if the design is changed you are stranded with no replacement battery. If you need to travel silent, battery is the ultimate, if you need to get home petrol or diesel. I have also sit with starting problems, but removing or cleaning a carb on the water no problem, if your electrical fail, you can be stuck. I know in time to come the tide will also change to advantage the electrical. Thank you, and we like to see where technology is taking the fishermen. Gods good
Hi John, thanks for your comment, and glad you enjoyed the video, you make many good points, appreciate the feedback. Take care
How did you two guys met the first time?
Hahaha well we actually met on a night out in Brisbane while we were both studying at university :)
@@SailingKawai Always nice to have a partner with more or less the same interest, makes things a lot easier and more fun to do
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Take paddles also.
hahaha yes this is always important :)
Only problem being is how FUCKING expensive they are in comparison to petrol.
Hey Levi, yes they are expensive, fortunately ours came with the boat :). Saying that we see so many petrol outboards brake down and we are happy to have the certainty that she will start :). Thanks for watching
@@SailingKawai As a younger person I'd say they are a good investment to make later on in life but now I couldn't afford it at all so I bought my motor for 60 quid!
@@levistandley1505 Sounds like a steal :)
Lots of noise, stink, and mess....but I still love my Yamaha 2.2
Haha, guess you should stick with what you love :) thanks for watching
Insanely expensive...market for pips with lots of benjamins
Well we didn't buy it, came with the boat but has been great for us :)
I got a Cruise2.0 in 2007,July 2009 i had to send it from the west coast where I live to quebec for repair that hapens more ore less Regulary
since that happens always during Seasons.So i got a backup in 2011 of course the same happens than.Now I have TWOO Motors for the
Recycling Bin, booth have WATER in the Pylon.The Advice I got from torqueedo, get a NEW one. Over the years i spend about $ 10000 on them
Thanks for the feedback Nadine, always helpful for others to be aware before buying, appreciate it!
Looks like Kotor to me
Great spotting, beautiful location :)
This type of boat is not suitable for the engine. Should use a flat-bottomed fiber. this type of boat is not suitable for the engine. The viscous friction is very high.
Thanks for your feedback :)
ePorpulsion technologicall far away from torqedo..
1-batary connection with plastic pin by torqeedo is really technologicall fail.If you loose it is gone..It is not floating.
ePropulsion Battery bigger capacity,easy connection and floating.
2-TWO wire connection of torqeed makes many connection
failures.ePropulsion only one wire connection.
3-control panel of torqeedo create many problem due to connection while mounting..ePropulsion rigit on the main body so eliminate connection problem
4-ıf you check silent test torqedo reach 74dsb full power while ePropulsion only 48dsb
Thanks for the feedback, I will check it out, hadn't heard of them, we haven't had any problems but open to all suggestions. Thanks for your comment!
No exhaust smell??!?!? That's one of my favorite parts about boating! I love that sweet smell of good 'ol fossil fuels.
:) :)
I regret buying 1003. Faults, faults faults. Use W40 is the only thing you hear from their support....Absolutely unreliable.
Thanks for the feedback Nick!
No, I should NOT buy it. The reason is simple
2017 I bought 1003S brand new. The price it 2 times more than petrol outboards of the similar power.
2018 engine failed. Repaired under warranty
2020 engine failed. No warranty. Repair estimation $1150 (AUD), which is price of 2.5HP brand new Suzuki.
C'mon, it fails for no reason or reason which dealer cannot explain, and doesn't last a 3 years. Why would you buy it?
Hi Yuri, thanks for the feedback, appreciate the honesty. We have been lucky to not have these issues but always great to provide feedback for those looking to buy. Thanks for contributing :)
Green world lol
:)
Cool and all but check out your nearest lithium mine before you claim environmental credentials. ;-)
Yes its weary nice, but price on this things is oboy oboy....
Hey Rob, yes it helps it was included with the boat :)
If you like attention, buy it!