Interstellar Alliance Fleet Analysis | Babylon 5 Ships
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2021
- In this video, we will be looking at the different Instellerstaller Alliance Ships and comparing which one is the strongest. We will be looking at the White Star, Blue Star, Victory Class Destroyer, Liandra Class, and Valen class cruiser. What kind of weapons and defenses do they have and why are they stronger than each other.
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Victory-class.
And from what i remember, Sheriden wanted a ship that had more firepower than the White Star.
It was specifically designed to deal with the capital classes that the WSs, despite their amazing value across the board, had difficulty dealing with on its own.
The Victory Class is one of my all time favorite ships in all of sci fi!!
The White Star for me. It's small packs quite a punch and it has organic Vorlon tech. When I first got into Babylon 5 it was the later seasons when you see them and it was an instant hit with me. Being one of my favorite Sci Fi ships.
The Victory class has a "diffractive armor" that reflects 75% of any enemy fire that makes it past the Vorlon skin that learns to block any energy blast it's been hit with before just leaving the physical impact like the Whitestar.
Victory does not have vorlon skin, she was meant to have Shadow skin and in the interm used mimbari armor
Anything B5 related, I instant Like.
Thanks for this, I wish B5 lived on as some open world sim for PC and Consoles alike.
Save up credits to build my own Omega Class Destroyer, dig up ancient technology from worlds beyond the rim.
That would be awesome if we had some kind of open world game.
I downloaded a couple of Omega add-ons for 'Space Engineers'. Nothing is perfect but one could always use someone like that as a template and improve upon it.
A B5 reboot was announced to be actively in development at The CW with JMS at the helm like 2 weeks ago.
@AWS-11H Awesome Don't get hyped. Just be cautiously optimistic. Yes it is The CW. But it also is JMS. So it might be good, or it might be woke trash. Just don't get hyped anymore. Hype is the mind killer, the small death. I shall not hype.
@AWS-11H Awesome that sounds like a good time. Also, been downloading random B5 ship models for my 3D printer and most of them do look like they were ported or repurposed from games. Heck sometimes I wonder if someone yanked some Amigs TV models or whatever was used (probably not that). Still, lots of insanity... without proper tweaking a lot of the models will form a pile of spaghetti on the 3D print bed bed, but I digress.
I am concerned that JMS will blatantly relate the new shows events to recent politics. As if I haven't seen enough of that in the r/babylon5 in the past year or so.
The Whitestar is my personal favorite from Babylon 5.
I can see if Crusade was on longer a resurgence of the Valen heavy cruiser to fill in the gaps the proposed yet stalled Victory class destroyers would fill. Given a slight revision they could function as carriers and store at least 2 Whitestars in its rear section with a rotation of 4 escorts. While the Victory serves as mainline warship the Valen is carrier duty.
The White Star reminds me of the Defiant from Star Trek over powered for its size
Smaller ship but powerful
@@UtopianBroadcast1 Nicely done video, so congratulations.
Of course, we do have the recurring issue of inconsistent White Star scaling, where for most of season 3 and 4, it's clearly between 120 and 160 meters long, scaled to Omega-class ships, and so on, plus shown as smaller (less than half size?) of a Vorchan in season 5. It only got bumped up in scale to fit a hangar bay for three Nials or one Flyer, and there's some evidence those carried ships may be smaller than often reported. I don't think even the CGI artists kept track of such things, consistently.
Otherwise, good quality video material.
Well it shouldn't the defiant is way stronger and more advanced than anything from b5
@@elvangulley3210 Maybe in some firepower regards, but White Stars can travel quite far around the galaxy, looking for First Ones. The Defiant can barely reach 5 light years a day, at times, by contrast.
@@chrissonofpear1384 fights don't happen during jumps hyper space or whatever b5 uses in a fight b5 ships would be crushed
The Victory's main weapon is of Vorlon origin, based off their main gun fired from the combination of 3 "prong" vs the Vorlon's 4. Each firing also caused a massive power drain making it vulnerable for a minute. It was a contemporary of the Earth Forces Warlock cruiser which incorporated acquired Minbari tech and possibly some Shadow tech.
The Whitestar will always be number one in my books, as it was a small but deadly ship, able to take on ships three times it size and was the backbone of the alliance during both the Shadow war and the Earth Civil War, without it the Alliance would have lost
Also it has never been stated that the Whitestar had a Minbari stealth device
I completly forgot about the Valen Class. Nice video
The white Stars are the workhorse of the isa fleet
I always found it really daft they called the White Star a medium cruiser when it's clearly a corvette and the Victory class a Destroyer when it's gargantuan and closer to a Battleship. Fantastic designs just werid naming conventions
Typical scifi stuff.
They are reserving those names and classes for bigger ships
@@gordonhardwick9552 Maybe they have a John Sheridan class of moon sized battle station that can travel from place to place? We come in peace and you will go in pieces if you get hostile to our friendly overtures, gestures. Accept our hand of friendship or feel our fist of the peace keepers.
I always got the impression they where saving those names for when the species advanced there was an episode where the earth sun was going supernova and a ranger type was downloading records he seemed to have a vorlon style bioship
I will side with the Class 2 White Star as per fave from this list.. Fav Ships of B5 have to be the Narn Ships for Personal Favs.
Victory then white star.
Thanks for the great videos.
Whitestar, by far, is the most 'bang-for-the-buck' here, BUT, the EXCELSIOR Class has to be the best of all. I mean, what other class could have disengaged in hyper-space from a giant space squid intent on Raping it? That the Rangers didn't IMMEDIATELY Make More of these is Perplexing, but I guess the 'plague' gave them 'Covid Pause'. Still. I would have loved seeing a 2.3-scale version, and a 1.7 times, B-4-scale equal being made that withered-away Shadows or Vorlons , and had Fighter-Blue-Stars as it's 12 main Shuttles, plus 24 T-bolts! Of course, the Internal trolley would've be quadrupled to ferry crew about.. Oh, and, 4 'MAGI; deltas, as needed.
The main gun on the victory class was vorlon tec (based loosely on vorlon design is the quote), as EA and Mimbari didn’t have the power generation required to fire it, the entire ship required 1 minute to recharge each time it was fired. Call To Arms, 23 minutes in explains it first time 👍
I got a pounding headache from the popular pathogen but I do like the fact that you included a picture of the crew from the Ranger TV pilot/movie @ 1:12
I really enjoyed that show but that alien with the holes and spikes in his cheeks really skeeved me out. Talk about suspension of disbelief!
The Whitestar is the most iconic TV ship since the Enterprise and spawned DS9s cheap equivalent the Defiant. Also, as a system that should be mentioned the self repair system got a lot of crews out of the smelly stuff. As hero ships go it's also the prettiest in TV sci-fi history.
There is wisdom in peace through superior firepower. Speak softly and carry a big boomstick. First talk to them nicely and then boomstick them if they are not impressed by your niceties.
Big Bull moose energy
Victory Class. That's my fav!
I believe it's stated in the show that the Victory's main gun is Vorlon technology.
The second valen class ship I think could travel in qauntum space which was way faster than using a jump gate.
Really like the b5 ships
The minbari fighters got design of blakes7 liberator
A thing about Excalibur I hated was that Gideon would always call the shop an Earth alliance warship when Excalibur was not an EAS. Excalibur was an ISA vessel not earth force.
The ship was on loaned to the Earth alliance and her crew were all EA so that's why she'd identify as an EA ship not an ISA ship.
I find it odd these massive ships only have tiny crew capabilities.
Sorry, the White Star is so iconic...I still want one!
Bro the Victory Class Destroyer looks like the Providence Class Flagship in Revenge of the Sith
Victory class was more powerful than any Minbari ship. I would say easily equal to 2 Sharlins.
It’s main weapon was designed to be similar to Vorlon Dreadnought firepower level.
Victory main weapon used the entire energy output of the ship and the ship was essentially ‘dead’ in space for 30 seconds after firing it.
This main weapon one shot any ship in the show, including a large Shadow warship we saw in B5 series.
Great subject
Insta ban.
@@SpacialKatana ha
Regarding the cancellation of *CRUSADE:*
*_"Turner Network Television_* → *_ROT IN HELL!"_*
'Nuff said....
Don`t remember anything about Valen prototype story, nice info! Victory class could be just 3 km, 2990.31 feels like a price in a shop😄
The valen prototype story is from the Babylon 5 movie :The Legend of the Rangers: To Live and Die in Starlight. Its been awhile since I watch it but what I remember it's an ok movie to watch. There's some wierd battle scenes with the liandra class ship. 🤷♂️
@@UtopianBroadcast1 Yes I know it`s from that movie but I remember it so poorly, like there were human ranger and minbari one working both together and then there was a sort of mysterious species...don`t remember how it ended. Other B5 movies I remember well
I think they left 10 meter for the Vorlon bio-armor.
Insta ban.
@@SpacialKatana what do you mean?
I love the White Star, but have to wonder why the Rangers named it as the opposite of the former Minbari flagship.
Probably to honor Sheridan after what he did to the black star...honor and rid him of the stigma.
The "Drala fi" was her name.
@@deceptiveanswer Known to Humanity as the Black Star.
@@chrisdufresne9359 In English yes, but its a Minbari vessel, so I call her as
my favorite is the victory class destroyer and the ea/isa excalibur is my favorite of the two built i am still mad they never got to finish crusade maybe with the ground up reboot there will be a chance for jms to do a ground up reboot of crusade the way he wanted to make it and maybe even do legend of the the rangers spin off that he also wanted to but only got the to do the pilot episode which became a b5 movie
As far as I understand JMS don’t want to make Crusade in the first place, but did because the studio threw money his way to do it, yet still wanted micro managed the show which pissed him off and It’s why he was more hands off on that production. Imo Crusade had a ton of potential but the writing was horrible and the music was worse.
@@tarn1135 i loved the music and the story that was told in the 13 episodes we got you have to watych them in chonological order they were ment to be aired in but were not and the dvd sets are in the incorect broadcast order
@@tarn1135 also he did want to make crusade he had it planed out from start to finish it was the network that screwed that over they kept interferring from not airing the show in order and other things then unexpectedly canceled it from what i read they had finished filming episodes 14-16 and had the scripts finished to the end of season one that would end in a cliffhanger and they were to have found the cure by the end of season 1 and the cliff hanger would end with you wondering if gideon was dead or alive after being shot by a sniper
What gave omega class destroyer Vorlon skin
2nd shadow war is wrong... they waged more than those 2 battles we know of. This is ONLY the second one for the Minbari, first for the EA and LAST in total thanks to sheridan.
Also, the Victory class is actualy called "White Star Destroyer" (Yep, they where that lazy)
I was disappointed that the Valen class was first too boxy and then too Minbari in design. The Victory turned out to be the better of the 3 attempts at mixing their styles.
Yes on the money
#1 and #2 should probably switched seeing as the Whitestar does not suffer from being shut down for a full minute during a battle if it actually uses it's best weapon. That's a pretty critical weakness for a ship of the line.
They also did mention that since the ship was brand new they were still trying to work the bugs out of the system. But that's what happens when you're mixing Human, Minbari, and Vorlon tech.
Pegasus (BSG) vs Donnager (The Expanse)
I love the Donnie but she'd be hilariously outgunned against a battlestar
sad the canelled the B5 sequel i was to excited for it
There was a fighter White Star that only appeared in comics.
Which one, I know there was couple made from DC comics
@@UtopianBroadcast1 The comic is To Dream in the City of Sorrows.
@@UtopianBroadcast1 There where these hybrid fighters in some episode in the show. I think even Sinclair called them something white star.
@@shiningkingghidora I'm sure you mean the novel, To Dream in the City of Sorrows, with the Hel'zha-class? Not in a comic, but some fan or semi official art exists.
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The Valen came out after the victory, also you really did miss a lot of details you could of added for the victory
White Star is a wet plucked chicken. Victory is a badass. Still prefer Warlock over all B5 ships. And that Earth / Minbari fusion of a ship is FUGLY.
I thought the Victory class was meant to be more powerful than any other capital ship. The 2 Victory's took out the Shadow planet killer 🤔👍
Well one had to ram the damn thing but I think that was more due to teething problems than with the design itself. Those two just came out of the drive yards and immediately commodered by Sheridan.
Did they have fighters?
The interstellar alliance use the nail and starfury fighter. They dont have their own fight to my knowledge.
I allways wonder what it means when they say vorlon, minbari and earth technology was used to build thoses ships. Really what could the humans provide which vorlons and minbari could not do million times better?
Decent beds.
I think humans are more practical when it comes to designing things. In a sense that a ship will be designed in such a way it will be the most effective in combat situations, or to allow a ship to spend a long time away on missions and provide a level of comfort for the crew. I mean, the Victory class destroyer having a hangar bay for 56 Starfuries really feels like an idea that came from the human side. Minbari would design a ship based more on form, humans are more about function.
@@JH24821 that makes sense. I’m sure the design committee meeting when something like
Mimbari “this space could be used for a meditation shrine”
Vorlon “the three are one, when they are not four”
Human “we could fit two particle cannons in this space”
LOL, star trek LCARS on a Babylon 5 vid???
Was this read by AI?! Some really weird phrasing and pronunciation going on...
Seriously, Victory class Destroyer... star wars much
Lol, man in Scifi they can just carry a massive amount of troops, defying logic
aircraft carrier ?