I wish more sport-oriented cars would focus on throttle response instead of chasing big peak power numbers. It's impressive that peak torque comes early and stays through most of the rev range though.
That's why Mazdas are so fun to drive. They don't have the most power but they apply it well. It's nice to see others going this route since you won't be needing all that power most of the time anyhow.
I just realized, when a company redesigns a car completely, people call that car undeserving of the title (the Supra and the GT-R are the ones I hear most about this). When a company decides that they don't wanna stray too far from what the target market already likes and builds up on that platform, people say there's not enough improvement. I guess fanbases of all kinds are just shitshows lol, personally I like the new Z because it looks like the 1st gen one. But tbh I like a lot of things and don't ever really hate anything/anyone.
I don't know. I'd say in this case they've definitely gone too far in their attempt to give the target market what it likes. The new tail-light design being such an obvious homage to the Z32 suggests the designers weren't given much instruction beyond "People love retro, so give us more retro!"
Dan I agree overall the car is great for what it is. My biggest issue is how they moved the price around and it ended being way more expensive then 1st advertised. I wanted the NISMO which is coming but now at a price point of $65+ which is insane so I passed and just got 18’ TT RS. F it if I’m going to spend it it’s going to be on something nicer and faster at that price for a non-GTR Nissan lol!! These companies are crazy and I bet if it doesn’t sell well they’ll cancel the NISMO 🫤! I was at the 2 year mark waiting on this car glad I picked my TT RS that’s 100% for sure.
Mostly taking a once affordable sport saloon and turning it into a near unobtainable super car for the average joe is an issue. But hey, it's 2022 not the 90s and the world will hopefully end soon so yeah. No matter
I’d rather see and hear your reviews of performance cars, than ANY other reviewer on RUclips. Chris Harris being a very close second, based on visceral tire-spinning, corner-drifting thrill and amusing dialogue. But for actually getting honest and qualified perspectives I can relate to and appreciate- you Sir, are the man.
Well goodness, way to make my day. I have a ton of respect for Harris, as he's an extraordinarily talented driver who also knows how to speak while driving hard (something I have no idea how to do). He's very good at letting you know how it feels. Means so much, thank you!!
@@EngineeringExplained yeah, you and Savage Geese are my preferred reviewers. By the way, as someone who is not entirely concerned with a lack of HP, but still enjoys having power to play with if available, I am really eyeing up the 86/BRZ as the best performance-budget ratio car at the moment, for me. I don't care much for mustangs or most other American sports cars. Where would you say the 86 and the Z fall in relation to one another, from a bargain standpoint? If you have an opinion, which car does what it's supposed to do best?
@@Magnosummit im in the exact same boat as you. The 86 is what my gut is telling me I'm most attracted to overall, i love the looks of the new gen and it really seems like the most well-balanced car that will be on the market over the next few years. I've never been someone who cares about numbers or straight-line speed (EV's have won that battle, we all need to just enjoy the ICE cars while they last) The new z has a lot of appealing aspects, mainly being that it is turbocharged. I just love the forced induction element of the z, and that is my only uncertainty with the 86. Will it satisfy the little speed desires that i have.... its just the negative reputation of Nissan and how incredibly heavy it is (compared to the 86), that is making me turn away from this car
@@EngineeringExplained Plus he has his guys shooting at 120fps for those crazy corner drift angle slow motion renders. I'm sure there's a few guys that can get you the video you want on some "closed" roads
Thanks Jason! Always appreciate the EE take on new cars and try your Z review is tops. I've heard other journalists mention the gear level shake but actually seeing it in the cabin view at the 5:25 mark was... alarming. Nevertheless, I'm very excited for the new Z and can't wait to give it a go myself.
Yes, also watch at the very start (0:00 - watch my arm). I had a lot of wheel hop when I turned off TC; dunno if this is actually an issue or simply a factor of the conditions/car I was driving in.
I watch your channel for three reasons: 1) your automotive / engineering expertise, 2) your presentation, and 3) your locations. I grew up in the PNW so I recognize some of the drives, but it would be awesome if you told us where you are driving in each video... Keep putting out the excellent content!
Man, they *nailed* the styling of this car. Retro enough to recognize it as a Z, but modern enough so it doesn't look dated. I really like the way it looks.
It was a bit insane to see wheel hop feeding back to the shifter so violently around the 5:25 mark. I have not experienced that much in any car, even in sports cars that are much more raw. I'd be thinking there was a broken engine/transmission/rear mount if I felt that on any of my current sports cars. Could be something as simple as lousy tires or soft suspension/driveline bushings, but it makes me wonder how they have the driveline mounted to allow so much movement to feed all the way back to the transmission and shifter.
The shift knob is directly mounted to the transmission on the 370z platform; most modern cars use bowden systems nowadays, thats why you dont see it anymore.
The shifter is direct into the transmission. Which isn't that great of a transmission to start with. Probably a combo of a couple of issues. This car has kind of slid off my radar with these inital reviews. I have a Q50 anyways and want something without turbos or all of the reliability issues attached.
@@xXYannuschXx That is still worse than I've ever seen. I'm thinking back to all the cars (and even trucks and farm tractors) I've driven over the last 35-40 years with the stick coming right out of the gearbox and I've never seen it quite this bad. That is a huge amount of vibration coming up the driveline.
The more I hear about this car, the more I love it! My only worry is that demand on this car will be so high the markups will be insane. I hope I am wrong because this is the RWD, 6-speed manual sports car I want.
I hope it does sell well, it may mean I have to wait to get one but I hope the enthusiasts market puts their money where there mouth is and supports Nissan for making an enthusiastic centric car in 2022.
Don't hold your breath, when the new Z goes on sale it will only create more interest in the cars overall and those that cannot afford the $40-50k US for a new Z will snatch up the 370Z's driving their price up. My theory at least.
@@FlameOnTheBeat Sounds like it has been well enjoyed. Someone will always want it. I have a 2016 with 12,000km on it (A lady couldn't afford the lease) in mint shape but the new Z sure is compelling to consider.
I was fortunate to be in the market when the 2009 370z was introduced. During my 59 years on earth, I’ve owned a Corvette, BMW M3, 2 different Porsche 911 and that 370z. Although now I’m spoiled by the 991.2 911, that Z was by far, the best performance, looks, fun value of them all. That was especially true during the first few years of its long production run. It took others a decade to pass it for performance per dollar. At this price point, looks to me, like they’ve done it again.
The thing all the race people want to know, will the brakes give out after 3 laps? Will the engine over-heat after 5 laps? Can it be tracked out of the box?
I still think a gauge for battery voltage is cool and does come in handy (more relevant to colder climate countries). But yea definitely oil temp./pressure over that if I had to choose.
I'm guessing with digital dash you can pull up any information you want. Oil pressure might be better suited next to turbo boost, especially for track days?
@@1ShopSnipe yes but digital dash is not as authentic and reliable as the analogue meters. The digital dash in my car is buggy and has to be refreshed to function properly. That's the problem with digital interface. However, there are also gauges which are unnecessary (G's and turbo rpm). Much rather have oil temp/pressure gauge.
I was hoping the price would be lower, considering it's really a modified 13 year-old platform with a swap to an existing corporate engine. A lot of the interior bits are direct carry-over from the 370z as well. I think a base price of $35k with the performance model at $42-43k would be more appropriate.
You're tripping. 🤣 The new Z is significantly updated/improved and it's cheaper than a base Supra, Golf R, and as cheap as a Civic Type R. You're just poor! Btw, the average price for a new car sold in America nowadays is $44K. 40K these days ain't nothing! When I purchased my new S2000 back in 2003, it was $36K out the door. That money = over $50K today ($56K to be exact). 😏 A brand new 300ZX in the '90s would cost about $70K in today's money. 😏
You're better off buying a Civic Si or another sub $30K car. 😏 A loaded GR 86/BRZ is $35-36K. Why do you think this new sports car with 400 hp should cost the same as those? 😏🤣
Btw, the VR30 is derived from the legendary VR38 - the QUEEN of imports. It is much better than the old VQ engine. The new 9-sp auto is sourced from Mercedes. Everything else has been significantly improved or modified. 😏
@@Asiansxsymbol I've owned 4 Z-cars, including a 370z. This new car is very much a 370z at it's core. An engine swap, a couple suspension tweaks, and some new bodywork doesn't change that. Let's see some track tests versus the Supra, Mustang, Camaro, etc... You can buy a brand new Mustang GT or Camaro LT1 for under $40k, even in the current inflated market. They both have significantly more than 400 horsepower, and come with an LSD standard. The Supra is overpriced because it's really a BMW. Nissan is making a mistake by pricing the Performance spec Z so close to the Supra, since it has a more premium interior, and is a more modern platform. A parts bin car like the new Z needs to be a lot cheaper. The VR30 is a good engine, but it's nothing exceptional. It uses an open deck design, and small turbos. The B58 in the Supra uses a closed deck and a larger, single twin-scroll turbo. It's a stronger platform with more power potential. You have no idea how much money I make, and you sound like a jackass calling strangers poor on the internet. I make substantially more than the average earner in this country.
I wouldn't mind. The roads in the US are such crap, it gets old feeling every single pavement change, especially when the local DOT nerds take an 8th grader approach to some of the surface resealing efforts where it looks like snakes running all over the place. Overall, if they preserved the compliance in the back end = win. One thing I've always loved about the 370z, is that even stock, the backend will stick over uneven pavement/pavement type transitions. I'm sure the new Z will garner even more of an improvement with an aftermarket front swaybar to help with body roll. I'm not a fan of lowering vehicles as I actually use them in all sorts of conditions.
Something most companies don't do: give me incremental options instead of option packages that drive the price up 5-10k because of special seats, dials and luxery items. If I just want the LSD I shouldn't have to get heated-massage seats with a Bose 10.2 surround sound.
@@EngineeringExplained If it did, I would buy it. After convincing my wife I need it. She likes (to be driven around in) sports cars, so it wouldn't be too difficult of a sale. ;D
Give it a few months and Nissan will likely roll out those packages, most likely they are trying to make as much return on initial sales as possible before they split the interior and performance goodies off from one another. It should drop the price of the LSD/Wheels/Brake to around 3-5K making it even better value. Buuut you could just get the base model and install and LSD for like $1500.
I really want to like this car. The retro design is cool... but.... there is just something missing, it just doesn't give me that 'I want to have it' feeling. I just celebrate cars like this are still made
What about the Golf R, GR Corolla, Civic Type R? Do any of those temp you? I think the Z may simply be too conservative compared to the rest of the class
Mmmmm assuming its not a looks issue, perhaps its because it came much later then it was supposed to (original launch was planned 2017-18) but Ghosn canned the project. As a result the Z has a lot more competition and the performance numbers have increased compared to when it was supposed to arrive. It would have been unchallenged in the sports car market for the better part of 2-3 years until the Supra and C8 arrived in 2020. Alas can't go back in time and fix things.
@@timw2083 Hi, I don't want to be found dead in a Golf 🤣 The others are great, but true speed does not interest me that much. I rather have a GR Yaris or GR86. I like drivers cars. When you look back at car reviews those cars blow minds of reporters. I have not saw a single Z video where people we over the moon with the Z.
It's one of the car I wanted to buy, but after seeing this video, I'm glad that I went with my first choice and got a top of the line BRZ. Appart from the tire, the base BRZ is decently equipped and have a Torsen diff standard
honestly. a lighter car is more fun than a heavier car that can have more power. i always hated how heavy cars can ruin the driving experience sometimes
@@llavero5 It means fun... and no I would not like a FWD car. I like drifting and don't mind a little slide of the rear going into the next gear. But if you're afraid of it, I can understand why you would feel this way.
I really went to see one in the flesh, it looks abit flat on videos whereas the 370z was wide with lovely curves, but being the same car underneath im sure it will look good.
I like the front because it looks exactly like the 240z, which had a huge rectangle. The old one just had a bumper across the rectangle, that many tuners removed, so I was used this look already.
The new Z seems to be very good at what it does. I just pray the reliability is there considering a twin turbo set up gets very expensive if someone skips in oil change or two. I don’t think it compares to the Shelby GT350 with the flat plane crank that has full power all the way up until the computer shuts it off at 8250 RPM!! That engine was strictly magical. It would’ve been interesting to see Nissan come back with a flat plane crank engine naturally aspirated high revving sports car with a flat plane crank. In the late 80s and early 90s Nissan had fantastic V6 engines. I’m sure there’s someone still there at Nissan engineer such a fantastic engine!
I doubt it the VQ35/37 engines were already huge and the VR30 is a bit bigger than that. The Z32 engine bay is already a nightmare to work on so I wouldn't be all that optimistic. lol
Logically speaking I am sure it would. Though if you spend the purchase price of a new crate motor modifying and rebuilding the VG30 you would end up with a lot more power.
The huge difference in “softness” can be gained by weight of unsprung masses. Just lighter FlowFormed wheels plus lighter callipers, can make car really different. Just a guess. Can you check it? Wheel weight and brake system weight. 4 piston callipers are always lighter than one piston (if same size).
Do you think the price point of the Z is where it should be? I know it's a sports car, but $50k+ seems a bit too high just for upgraded diff and rev match...
I think $50k is high, yes. I think the $10k gap is worth it (it's a long list of upgrades, see video), but I wish the starting point was lower. But, when you compare to Supra, Z's cheaper with way more power.
I've read that the 2022 Supra published power is significantly underrated. When dynoed, it produces something like 380 at the drive wheels. If so, it is more powerful than the Z.
Nissan will split up the package and have just a performance package with wheels, brakes and rear diff and it will likely split the difference around 5K. They may also do a 300HP version since they have a detuned version of the VR30 ready to go at any time which may lead to an even cheaper base model.
B58 in the supra with basic chip tuning go over 500hp, with some changes it do easily 1000hp at the crank. Also it’s the torque monster, it have more down torque then m3 and m4
@@EngineeringExplained the Z is not way more powerful than a mkv supra lmao. Also, without an lsd, the 40k Z is not worth it . The Z cost 51k. Don't sugar coat it.
That's where I'm at. The new Z looks amazing, and I love the powerplant, but the lack of features for the base model kills it. A base model Mustang GT, or any GR-86, just seems like a better way to spend my money.
Remember these are just the launch models, other packages are going to come out that make more sense price wise and Infiniti has a 300HP version of this exact engine on hand. So Nissan can and very likely will have a 300HP version of the Z with a diff for around 36-38K, but then again Nissan doesn't consider the 86/Miata a competitor they both are very different driving sports cars.
@@Vykk_Draygo Same. You could get a decently optioned Mustang or Camaro with a V8 for around the same price or alternatively a fully loaded Ecoboost that would be pretty close in performance. As well plenty of other alternatives in this price range. If the base came with the LSD, Auto-Rev, Bose, and at least heated ultrasuede seats. That would of been a decent deal for $40K.
I was interested in the new Z, seemed an impressive value starting at just 39K with a twin turbo 6... But then I learned that they locked the frigging LSD behind a $10,000 paywall!!! Oooof! Guess I'll go for the GR86 instead, which comes with LSD, STANDARD..
I was just looking at a GR86 as a possibility and found out it has 50 less hp, is 300 lbs heavier, gets worse gas mileage, and drinks more expensive fuel than my Accord 6MT. All that just for RWD and a new payment? Didn't make sense to me on paper, but maybe the driving experience would make me a believer. Still, if I'm going to take the plunge on a Premium gasser, I'll take a Camaro 2SS 1LE. Smiles per gallon 👍
That wheel hop on the manual launch looked rough as hell. Similar looking to how my 96 Firebird 3.8 was (I never did the struts on it in the near decade I owned it). I'm going to guess that mounts will be some of the first mods people do to these.
@@OxBlitzkriegxO So is it one of those: Ya get to choose between a urethane harsh bushing = NVH in the vehicle, vs. just deal with the oem softer bushings?
@@07wrxtr1 poly isnt that bad, not nearly as hard as a solid mount. bmw switched to solid mounting their irs cradles in the more recent m3 and m4 but theres still compliance at the carrier itself.
I was thinking 10k was crazy difference between Sport and Performance until I saw EVERYTHING you get with the Performance model. Well worth the extra 10 grand IMO.
50k is kinda…. I dunno. 50k for a Z is a lot, they were practically giving them away 5-6 years ago, and you could get a NISMO for mid 40s. I’m wary of the Supra because of BMW gremlins. But modern Nissan isn’t like 90s Nissan with bullet proof motors so… I guess that’s a long way to say “meh”. I’d get a used RCF once the market corrects and get an actual quality Toyota product.
Honestly I think it looks sick. One of the best throw back looks I've ever seen on a car. The gaping hole in the nose takes you right back to the og Z cars. I think if they came out with a light weight version that dropped 100lbs then I might be inclined to give it a test drive.
Wonder if they had made some improvements to the clutch slave cylinder. Making it out of plastic was a really bad idea. What do they think they are, BMW? Lulz.
The 6-speed manual has these changes: new dual-mass flywheel with pendulum vibration dampener instead of mass-damper to return absorbed energy back to the powertrain instead of dissipating as heat new first and second gear synchros to feel lighter and smoother new clutch slave cylinder that is moved external to the transmission.
I disagree about the battery voltage gauge. It makes sense from an "engineering" standpoint (wink) that you would want to monitor your battery voltage when all other display gauges can be displayed on your "digital" dashboard. Otherwise why not just do all analogue and all of a sudden the voltage is not as important. I just think it makes sense from a practical perspective.. =) Love your vids by the way!!
I like the voltage display cause I seem to have the absolute worst luck with alternators (4 across various cars in the last 6 yrs). Although I don't exactly drive new cars, so maybe in 10 years I'll get to use it
I drive a turbocharged focus atm, I probably will not need the hatchback in the future the 2023 Z looks ideal just because it’s a manual with my favorite way to do turbocharged engines 😇 I’m get one for $20,000 in 4 years 😂
Yeah, I just feel like if your battery is dead you'll figure it out pretty quickly haha. But again, you can access oil temp & pressure on screen so that's nice.
Pricing is disappointing considering it was developed with existing parts. If performance was at sports price, it would have been awesome, but with inflation, I suppose it isn't bad but not great
Great review, as I am planning to purchase one myself(Performance trim). My dilemma is, MT or AT? I’m more of a “cruiser” type driver as I am older(55), and won’t be taking it to the track to actually “run it”, those days are past my prime lol, raced the amateur circuit in Abu Dhabi(Yas Marina Circuit, Aston Martin Gr3), and have done extensive Skip Barber courses…I am a bit of enthusiast, but it been 15 years since I’ve owned a MT, I’ve never driven the 370 and this will be my 1st “Z” car, so I am a bit conflicted and would appreciate and guidance on this matter…Thanks
So if you're planning to track this thing, I guess you might as well get the base model, yeah? Since your going to replace most of the stuff with aftermarket stuff anyways.
I think for the money, it's probably quite difficult to do all the changes they did for $10k. I'd go with Perf to get the factory LSD & better brakes (and rev-matching). But if you planning on changing things anyways, yeah, Sport saves you money upfront!
The engine mounts need to be more compliant for a V6 vs. a straight 6 because a straight 6 is inherently balanced whereas a V6 vibrates because it isn't balanced. The engine mounts used for a V6 aren't especially compliant, the shift knob will vibrate just the same as the engine if the shifter is mounted directly to the transmission case. I'm not sure whether I would or wouldn't want the shifter to not be mounted directly to the transmission case. I suspect that this will effect the preciseness of the shifting. I'd prefer to eliminate the need for the highly compliant engine mounts, and the way to do that is to use a straight 6 instead of a V6. It's all about tradeoffs because the V6 is more compact and allows better control of weight distribution. But, since the straight 6 is practically free of vibration, you don't need compliant mounts, which means that shifter isn't going to move around in relation to the chassis even if the shifter is mounted directly to the transmission case. I don't think there is any way to avoid wheel hop in a vehicle prone to wheel spin. When you have traction the vehicle accelerates and the weight transfers to the rear, compressing the suspension springs. When the wheels abruptly lose traction, acceleration drops abruptly and weight shifts from the rear to the front. With less weight now on the rear wheels the loss of traction is even greater, which makes the loss of traction sort of a binary affair. With less weight on the rear wheels the springs expand, slowly in comparison to time needed for traction to go from full to whatever. Unless there is traction control involved, you won't ordinarily regain traction unless/until you slightly disengage the clutch and/or let off the accelerator pedal. Meanwhile, as the springs continue expanding, the rear squat that had settled in during the interval of hard acceleration subsides. Due to the inertia of the chassis, the rear of the vehicle moves higher past the normal, at-rest height, and then falls to the at-rest height and possibly beyond. As the rear of the chassis falls, the spring compresses and the contact force at the contact patch increases. Traction recovers, acceleration recovers, the weight transfers to the rear again, the suspension squats and everything is fine for a few hundred milliseconds until the wheels abruptly lose traction again and the cycle repeats. Stiffer springs and shocks may help, but if so, the reason that a stiffer suspension helps is that rear squat is reduced. The extra stiffness needed to significantly reduce rear squat can be so great as to make the ride very uncomfortable. Obviously grippier tires will make a big difference.
Most say hydraulic power steering is the best steering assistance for sport oriented car due to can have more direct feel of the steering relative to the road conditions. But for me, im not very fan of hydraulic is due to extra maintanence to take care of on top of the must-do regular maintainence like engine oil, coolant etc, also need to take care on the harden rubber tube, extra attachment on the engine etc. So, my pov is steering shouldnt need power assist, aka pure mechanical steering like the 80s car, which is the best when from let say 20mph or above for best road feel or tyre feels. EPS (eletric power steering) can fit the bill when come to variable power assist, the steering will be power assisted when the condition is needed especially stationary turning, also if can the EPS somehow can "tune" such as cut off power at certain speed to have best control of the road. Although both hydraulic and electric can do the trick but i would prefer EPS for lesser hassel.
I have changes 3 hydro parts in the Audi A4 b6 1.8t and 3 already in e36 m3, it’s get hot easily, vague feel, I prefer crystal clear electric no issues
The front end styling is just the 240,26o,280z 's most popular modification everyone did, this time it's done from the factory. Everyone removed the bumper to clean up the front end styling. You ended up with the front end looking like the new Z! I'm surprised no one has noticed that.
@@Vel1ar At least only JAPANESE like it I think it looks nice but weird However, GT500 racer version of this Z car is better than the road legal car because it is a silhouette GT race car. Even the GT500 is equipped with the 2.0L SINGLE-TURBOCHARGED INLINE 4 CYLINDER ENGINE!!!
I mean your comparing a light weight and much smaller mid-engine car to the Z, the Porsche is all but guaranteed to be the better of the two. That said the FM platform was ahead of its time and the recent update should let it remain competitive with the segment. Which isn't to say the Z is bad, its going to be a really fun car to drive without question.
At 5:23 is it normal for the gear lever to shake that much when launching the car? I can hear that it’s from the wheel spin but it looks like a lot of lateral movement
Ha, yeah, seems like a lot. You'll notice even more in my video intro (watch my arm!). I think one thing worth mentioning is we have a direct linkage here, as the transmission sits right under the gear shift. If you had a FWD vehicle with cable driven shifter, you probably wouldn't get as much shake, but it's also not as direct of a connection.
@@EngineeringExplained much like the ND Miata! Less torque in that car of course but same thing happens when there’s wheel hop or wheel spin and bumpy roads
The soft rubber they use for the diff and rear suspension are questionable. All it would take to fix, is some poly diff mounts, a diff brace and maybe even poly subframe mounts. Its been this bad on all Z's.
2:52 Jason 😳 C'mon man, turbos don't steal so much power to make power. They're also kinder to a manual drive train during up shifts due to the slight lag building the torque load steadily. Automatic track car... don't even go there 🙂
Thank goodness Nissan made this because it forced Toyota to do something with the Supra. I hope Nissan sells enough to make an impact in the sports car market.
I hope for as many sales as possible, but the new Z is pretty much already paid for its co-developed alongside the G35/37 and now Q50/60. Which isn't to say it didn't cost Nissan money to bring it to market but they don't need to sell that many to get a return on the investment. Thats one of the big reasons why the 300ZX became the G35 and 350z so Nissan could build a dedicated sports car and then offset the R&D Cost with a luxury vehicle that sells at higher volumes and margins.
this is the first "modern Z" where it actually feels like the design team was doing a modern take on the classic Z cars, the 350z was just a rebagded Infiniti because they decided to bring back the Z car nameplate and wanted to do it cheap, the 370z was just an evolution of that and pretty much the same with the body of the R35, none of them felt like evolutions of the classic designs
I'm confident that's marketing language to inform you they do have differently tuned suspensions. I drove the Sport as well, and didn't notice a major difference in the suspension.
'' I am not big fan of turbocharged engines ..'' - only line needed for thumbs up, and reason enough to come back to watch more of your videos. Flat torque curve is only good for fuel efficiency and pure performance. It takes away the anticipation of the peak excitement at 7 k rpm. Robbing the driver the dopamine surge.
Body kit designers are going to have the best time ever replacing the factory front bumper. I feel like just about anything could look better than the factory
Really looking forward to getting these in at the dealership where I work up here in Canada. They are supposed to be bringing one by for sort of show and tell very soon.
Good shot of the floor mats at 4:35. I love that old school carpet that came in the early 240sx, but the Z looks like it has that cursed microfiber junk.
fun fact: the performance is actually governed higher due to its rear wing. its a case similar to the first gen audi TT where the little wing actually improves downforce quite a lot, allowing higher top speeds
TT wing was added to easily identify the cars that had had the recall work done because the first cars kept killing people from terrible handling. They changed suspension, added ESP and also changed diff settings iirc. They were also terribly built and had dodgy electrics which Audi only addressed after a huge mass lawsuit against them where they would've had to refund or fully repair every single car if they lost. Absolutely terrible POS car, but VAG have strong marketing and expensive lawyers keeping the brand squeaky clean in the publics eyes.
If you like the 370Z, this is a better version of it. It's a little heavy in my opinion, but it stays true to the Z line. Personally there are cars in this price range I prefer over it, but props to Nissan for making it, and making it themselves. I'd take this over a Supra or STI, but I find cars like BRZ, Miata, or even Type R to be more engaging.
@@EngineeringExplained perfectly put. For the stop light warriors I think this will be a nice option. I’m a handling car person so I’m more excited by lightweight engaging options.
I wish more sport-oriented cars would focus on throttle response instead of chasing big peak power numbers. It's impressive that peak torque comes early and stays through most of the rev range though.
Yeah, for this I really do think they did shoot for that, but obviously a turbo engine will be at a disadvantage with regards to response vs NA.
Yeah that's my biggest gripe with the 370. Torque below about 4k rpm is weak
Get an EV;)
That's why Mazdas are so fun to drive. They don't have the most power but they apply it well. It's nice to see others going this route since you won't be needing all that power most of the time anyhow.
@@Lofi.z34 yes it's great to drive above 5000. Even shifts much better
They did a focus group and discovered that the one thing Z drivers really wanted was a second cup holder. Good work, Nissan.
I just realized, when a company redesigns a car completely, people call that car undeserving of the title (the Supra and the GT-R are the ones I hear most about this). When a company decides that they don't wanna stray too far from what the target market already likes and builds up on that platform, people say there's not enough improvement. I guess fanbases of all kinds are just shitshows lol, personally I like the new Z because it looks like the 1st gen one. But tbh I like a lot of things and don't ever really hate anything/anyone.
I don't know. I'd say in this case they've definitely gone too far in their attempt to give the target market what it likes. The new tail-light design being such an obvious homage to the Z32 suggests the designers weren't given much instruction beyond "People love retro, so give us more retro!"
Dan I agree overall the car is great for what it is. My biggest issue is how they moved the price around and it ended being way more expensive then 1st advertised. I wanted the NISMO which is coming but now at a price point of $65+ which is insane so I passed and just got 18’ TT RS. F it if I’m going to spend it it’s going to be on something nicer and faster at that price for a non-GTR Nissan lol!! These companies are crazy and I bet if it doesn’t sell well they’ll cancel the NISMO 🫤! I was at the 2 year mark waiting on this car glad I picked my TT RS that’s 100% for sure.
@@milkofthepuppy hmm with that sentiment, I think if a lot of people think similarly, the z base price will drop lol
@@colehartel7206 that's an incredibly assumptive and relatively baseless thing to claim is true.
Mostly taking a once affordable sport saloon and turning it into a near unobtainable super car for the average joe is an issue.
But hey, it's 2022 not the 90s and the world will hopefully end soon so yeah. No matter
I’d rather see and hear your reviews of performance cars, than ANY other reviewer on RUclips. Chris Harris being a very close second, based on visceral tire-spinning, corner-drifting thrill and amusing dialogue. But for actually getting honest and qualified perspectives I can relate to and appreciate- you Sir, are the man.
Well goodness, way to make my day. I have a ton of respect for Harris, as he's an extraordinarily talented driver who also knows how to speak while driving hard (something I have no idea how to do). He's very good at letting you know how it feels. Means so much, thank you!!
@@EngineeringExplained yeah, you and Savage Geese are my preferred reviewers.
By the way, as someone who is not entirely concerned with a lack of HP, but still enjoys having power to play with if available, I am really eyeing up the 86/BRZ as the best performance-budget ratio car at the moment, for me. I don't care much for mustangs or most other American sports cars.
Where would you say the 86 and the Z fall in relation to one another, from a bargain standpoint? If you have an opinion, which car does what it's supposed to do best?
I like Henry from Carfection too. Chris is #1 for me though.
@@Magnosummit im in the exact same boat as you. The 86 is what my gut is telling me I'm most attracted to overall, i love the looks of the new gen and it really seems like the most well-balanced car that will be on the market over the next few years. I've never been someone who cares about numbers or straight-line speed (EV's have won that battle, we all need to just enjoy the ICE cars while they last)
The new z has a lot of appealing aspects, mainly being that it is turbocharged. I just love the forced induction element of the z, and that is my only uncertainty with the 86. Will it satisfy the little speed desires that i have....
its just the negative reputation of Nissan and how incredibly heavy it is (compared to the 86), that is making me turn away from this car
@@EngineeringExplained Plus he has his guys shooting at 120fps for those crazy corner drift angle slow motion renders. I'm sure there's a few guys that can get you the video you want on some "closed" roads
Thanks Jason! Always appreciate the EE take on new cars and try your Z review is tops. I've heard other journalists mention the gear level shake but actually seeing it in the cabin view at the 5:25 mark was... alarming. Nevertheless, I'm very excited for the new Z and can't wait to give it a go myself.
Yes, also watch at the very start (0:00 - watch my arm). I had a lot of wheel hop when I turned off TC; dunno if this is actually an issue or simply a factor of the conditions/car I was driving in.
I watch your channel for three reasons: 1) your automotive / engineering expertise, 2) your presentation, and 3) your locations. I grew up in the PNW so I recognize some of the drives, but it would be awesome if you told us where you are driving in each video... Keep putting out the excellent content!
Nissan Arizona Testing Center in Stanfield, AZ.
Man, they *nailed* the styling of this car. Retro enough to recognize it as a Z, but modern enough so it doesn't look dated. I really like the way it looks.
Modern enough "so" it doesn't look dated? That didn't make sense to me. Maybe change so to but?
It's so sexy. I'm waiting for the Heritage version to drop before I end up buying one.
It was a bit insane to see wheel hop feeding back to the shifter so violently around the 5:25 mark. I have not experienced that much in any car, even in sports cars that are much more raw. I'd be thinking there was a broken engine/transmission/rear mount if I felt that on any of my current sports cars. Could be something as simple as lousy tires or soft suspension/driveline bushings, but it makes me wonder how they have the driveline mounted to allow so much movement to feed all the way back to the transmission and shifter.
Seems that the tires are the weakest part of the car, it uses some Bridgestone tires that aren't that good.
@@Hartbreak1 the wheelhop has very little to do with the wheelhop. the rear IRS cradle has extremely soft bushings.
The shift knob is directly mounted to the transmission on the 370z platform; most modern cars use bowden systems nowadays, thats why you dont see it anymore.
The shifter is direct into the transmission. Which isn't that great of a transmission to start with. Probably a combo of a couple of issues. This car has kind of slid off my radar with these inital reviews. I have a Q50 anyways and want something without turbos or all of the reliability issues attached.
@@xXYannuschXx That is still worse than I've ever seen. I'm thinking back to all the cars (and even trucks and farm tractors) I've driven over the last 35-40 years with the stick coming right out of the gearbox and I've never seen it quite this bad. That is a huge amount of vibration coming up the driveline.
Congrats to you sir for getting to drive one of the Proto Specs!
The more I hear about this car, the more I love it! My only worry is that demand on this car will be so high the markups will be insane. I hope I am wrong because this is the RWD, 6-speed manual sports car I want.
I’d wait until the dealers abuse all the early adapters. In less than a year, everybody who couldn’t wait will already have one.
Agreed, just wait it out a couple years. Plus, those first couple of years are likely to have issues that need to be worked out.
I hope it does sell well, it may mean I have to wait to get one but I hope the enthusiasts market puts their money where there mouth is and supports Nissan for making an enthusiastic centric car in 2022.
I hope saturation means there's less demand for GR86 and makes it more attainable.
It makes me so happy to hear you correctly say “RPM” and not “RPMs” like many others. Drives me crazy on other channels
This car is absolutely gorgeous from the front ! They nailed the lights and grill to make is look like a modern 280Z.
Can't wait for this to come out so I can get a 370z for cheaper.
Don't hold your breath, when the new Z goes on sale it will only create more interest in the cars overall and those that cannot afford the $40-50k US for a new Z will snatch up the 370Z's driving their price up. My theory at least.
drift tax
@@michaelgomez4994 Totally.
@@FlameOnTheBeat Sounds like it has been well enjoyed. Someone will always want it. I have a 2016 with 12,000km on it (A lady couldn't afford the lease) in mint shape but the new Z sure is compelling to consider.
I was fortunate to be in the market when the 2009 370z was introduced. During my 59 years on earth, I’ve owned a Corvette, BMW M3, 2 different Porsche 911 and that 370z. Although now I’m spoiled by the 991.2 911, that Z was by far, the best performance, looks, fun value of them all. That was especially true during the first few years of its long production run. It took others a decade to pass it for performance per dollar.
At this price point, looks to me, like they’ve done it again.
This is my favorite road to drive in Vegas. One of the few driving roads around.
The thing all the race people want to know, will the brakes give out after 3 laps?
Will the engine over-heat after 5 laps?
Can it be tracked out of the box?
If it's the same motor from the q50/60 or anything like the previous Z. Then no it'll overheat as you mentioned.
He smiled at the end when he hit that throttle so you know it's good
I still think a gauge for battery voltage is cool and does come in handy (more relevant to colder climate countries). But yea definitely oil temp./pressure over that if I had to choose.
I'm guessing with digital dash you can pull up any information you want. Oil pressure might be better suited next to turbo boost, especially for track days?
@@1ShopSnipe yes but digital dash is not as authentic and reliable as the analogue meters. The digital dash in my car is buggy and has to be refreshed to function properly. That's the problem with digital interface.
However, there are also gauges which are unnecessary (G's and turbo rpm). Much rather have oil temp/pressure gauge.
This is literally the only person on youtube who has done a proper review of this car. Every other reviewer seems to just have no idea whatsoever
Thank you for being honest and not making excuses. The best perk and feature about your reviews. ;)
You know it’s quirk, right?
That special orange Z they showed off is how they should update the Z when they do a mid cycle refresh, that front end looks SOOOO much better!
I know the orange one u are talking about... night and day difference .so much better
Wow that torque curve is impressive.
I was hoping the price would be lower, considering it's really a modified 13 year-old platform with a swap to an existing corporate engine. A lot of the interior bits are direct carry-over from the 370z as well. I think a base price of $35k with the performance model at $42-43k would be more appropriate.
You're tripping. 🤣 The new Z is significantly updated/improved and it's cheaper than a base Supra, Golf R, and as cheap as a Civic Type R. You're just poor! Btw, the average price for a new car sold in America nowadays is $44K. 40K these days ain't nothing! When I purchased my new S2000 back in 2003, it was $36K out the door. That money = over $50K today ($56K to be exact). 😏 A brand new 300ZX in the '90s would cost about $70K in today's money. 😏
You're better off buying a Civic Si or another sub $30K car. 😏 A loaded GR 86/BRZ is $35-36K. Why do you think this new sports car with 400 hp should cost the same as those? 😏🤣
Btw, the VR30 is derived from the legendary VR38 - the QUEEN of imports. It is much better than the old VQ engine. The new 9-sp auto is sourced from Mercedes. Everything else has been significantly improved or modified. 😏
@@Asiansxsymbol I've owned 4 Z-cars, including a 370z. This new car is very much a 370z at it's core. An engine swap, a couple suspension tweaks, and some new bodywork doesn't change that. Let's see some track tests versus the Supra, Mustang, Camaro, etc...
You can buy a brand new Mustang GT or Camaro LT1 for under $40k, even in the current inflated market. They both have significantly more than 400 horsepower, and come with an LSD standard. The Supra is overpriced because it's really a BMW. Nissan is making a mistake by pricing the Performance spec Z so close to the Supra, since it has a more premium interior, and is a more modern platform. A parts bin car like the new Z needs to be a lot cheaper.
The VR30 is a good engine, but it's nothing exceptional. It uses an open deck design, and small turbos. The B58 in the Supra uses a closed deck and a larger, single twin-scroll turbo. It's a stronger platform with more power potential.
You have no idea how much money I make, and you sound like a jackass calling strangers poor on the internet. I make substantially more than the average earner in this country.
@@hartsickdisciple you said it perfectly
I think it feels softer because of the new twin tube dampers 🙌🏻
I wouldn't mind. The roads in the US are such crap, it gets old feeling every single pavement change, especially when the local DOT nerds take an 8th grader approach to some of the surface resealing efforts where it looks like snakes running all over the place. Overall, if they preserved the compliance in the back end = win. One thing I've always loved about the 370z, is that even stock, the backend will stick over uneven pavement/pavement type transitions. I'm sure the new Z will garner even more of an improvement with an aftermarket front swaybar to help with body roll. I'm not a fan of lowering vehicles as I actually use them in all sorts of conditions.
Something most companies don't do: give me incremental options instead of option packages that drive the price up 5-10k because of special seats, dials and luxery items. If I just want the LSD I shouldn't have to get heated-massage seats with a Bose 10.2 surround sound.
I agree; the Sport should offer LSD & rev-match.
@@EngineeringExplained If it did, I would buy it.
After convincing my wife I need it. She likes (to be driven around in) sports cars, so it wouldn't be too difficult of a sale. ;D
Give it a few months and Nissan will likely roll out those packages, most likely they are trying to make as much return on initial sales as possible
before they split the interior and performance goodies off from one another.
It should drop the price of the LSD/Wheels/Brake to around 3-5K making it even better value. Buuut you could just get the base model and install and LSD for like $1500.
No matter how much faster EVs get, they will never be as much FUN as a manual ICE car with a great exhaust/engine note.
Good all round test without any attempted showbiz.
I really want to like this car. The retro design is cool... but.... there is just something missing, it just doesn't give me that 'I want to have it' feeling.
I just celebrate cars like this are still made
What about the Golf R, GR Corolla, Civic Type R? Do any of those temp you?
I think the Z may simply be too conservative compared to the rest of the class
Mmmmm assuming its not a looks issue, perhaps its because it came much later then it was supposed to (original launch was planned 2017-18)
but Ghosn canned the project.
As a result the Z has a lot more competition and the performance numbers have increased compared to when it was supposed to arrive.
It would have been unchallenged in the sports car market for the better part of 2-3 years until the Supra and C8 arrived in 2020.
Alas can't go back in time and fix things.
@@timw2083 Hi, I don't want to be found dead in a Golf 🤣
The others are great, but true speed does not interest me that much. I rather have a GR Yaris or GR86. I like drivers cars. When you look back at car reviews those cars blow minds of reporters. I have not saw a single Z video where people we over the moon with the Z.
Totally agree with the grille. It deserves a little bit of style.
It's a rebadged Toyota GR86 body
@@danielfair4675 you must be thinking of the BRZ or FRS. Lol
It's one of the car I wanted to buy, but after seeing this video, I'm glad that I went with my first choice and got a top of the line BRZ. Appart from the tire, the base BRZ is decently equipped and have a Torsen diff standard
Agreed. I'd rather have finesse and handling over power any day. Sold my M2 and kept my Miata.
honestly. a lighter car is more fun than a heavier car that can have more power. i always hated how heavy cars can ruin the driving experience sometimes
That inside engine noise though... 10/10.
Sounds like an old B5 RS4 (2.7TT).
5:41 Wheel slip going into second on an auto!? That is pretty impressive! Not a fan of auto but that is fantastic that it can do that!
No, its not, this means loss of traction, if you like that you will love a powerful front wheel drive
That's not a good thing
@@llavero5 no different from any powerful rwd car..
@@llavero5 Tell me about it lol. 350 hp in my GTI which is Fwd of course. 1st gear is useless.
@@llavero5 It means fun... and no I would not like a FWD car. I like drifting and don't mind a little slide of the rear going into the next gear. But if you're afraid of it, I can understand why you would feel this way.
A good review - thanks. It will be interesting to see if they release any JDM variants here in Japan.
I really went to see one in the flesh, it looks abit flat on videos whereas the 370z was wide with lovely curves, but being the same car underneath im sure it will look good.
Looks like they've Mazdafied the front a little, though...
The back of the car looks great. The front... let's say that the older Zs are much more beautiful.
I like the front because it looks exactly like the 240z, which had a huge rectangle. The old one just had a bumper across the rectangle, that many tuners removed, so I was used this look already.
I like the front in darker colors better than the yellows and whites but it'll take a bit for me to say I like the look overall
Here I thought the next Z was going to be a crossover EV.... whew
Great video!!!🤘🤘🤘
Nissan 300zx is still the best of the Fairladies. Will fight that until I die
Edit: naturally the z32
Wrong. 240Z. Best sounding z.
Then we’ll fight together! 300zx for life
edit: Z32
Z32 yes, especially the z32tt
which 300zx?
@@jamesengland7461 Z32 of course.
The new Z seems to be very good at what it does. I just pray the reliability is there considering a twin turbo set up gets very expensive if someone skips in oil change or two.
I don’t think it compares to the Shelby GT350 with the flat plane crank that has full power all the way up until the computer shuts it off at 8250 RPM!!
That engine was strictly magical.
It would’ve been interesting to see Nissan come back with a flat plane crank engine naturally aspirated high revving sports car with a flat plane crank. In the late 80s and early 90s Nissan had fantastic V6 engines.
I’m sure there’s someone still there at Nissan engineer such a fantastic engine!
2:52 My thoughts exactly, I'm not a turbo guy.
It was cool watching you drive the road I used to take to work every day haha
One wonders if this engine will fit in a Z32 300ZX…
The only thing I imagine that might make it tricky is fitting the engine radiator and intercooler, as I would imagine is larger.
I doubt it the VQ35/37 engines were already huge and the VR30 is a bit bigger than that. The Z32 engine bay is already a nightmare
to work on so I wouldn't be all that optimistic. lol
@@BigHeadClan Yeah…that engine bay, one can only dream.
Logically speaking I am sure it would. Though if you spend the purchase price of a new crate motor modifying and rebuilding the VG30 you would end up with a lot more power.
@@gavinr9107 or find a wrecked Q60 Red Sport.
The new Z vs the manual Supra.... Can't wait to hear your opinion when they hand you the keys to that. Betting the Z won't be able to compete
That gear stick is moving so much when launching. Suspension of the engine must be reaaaally soft.
2:13 Ah, now I finally know what Psaki meant with her "circle back"
The huge difference in “softness” can be gained by weight of unsprung masses. Just lighter FlowFormed wheels plus lighter callipers, can make car really different.
Just a guess. Can you check it?
Wheel weight and brake system weight. 4 piston callipers are always lighter than one piston (if same size).
The hoonage at the start, love it man!!!!!
this car is fantastic, great review
I enjoyed your review based on so many reviews in the past. Also I trust a reviewer that drives sports cars ,them selves, as a personal car.
Do you think the price point of the Z is where it should be? I know it's a sports car, but $50k+ seems a bit too high just for upgraded diff and rev match...
I think $50k is high, yes. I think the $10k gap is worth it (it's a long list of upgrades, see video), but I wish the starting point was lower. But, when you compare to Supra, Z's cheaper with way more power.
I've read that the 2022 Supra published power is significantly underrated. When dynoed, it produces something like 380 at the drive wheels. If so, it is more powerful than the Z.
Nissan will split up the package and have just a performance package with wheels, brakes and rear diff and it will likely split
the difference around 5K.
They may also do a 300HP version since they have a detuned version of the VR30 ready to go at any time which may lead
to an even cheaper base model.
B58 in the supra with basic chip tuning go over 500hp, with some changes it do easily 1000hp at the crank. Also it’s the torque monster, it have more down torque then m3 and m4
@@EngineeringExplained the Z is not way more powerful than a mkv supra lmao. Also, without an lsd, the 40k Z is not worth it . The Z cost 51k. Don't sugar coat it.
I was waiting this for a long time
$30k for a new 86 still seems like the sweet spot for the next half decade (or V6/V8 camaro/mustang for stoplight warriors).
That's where I'm at. The new Z looks amazing, and I love the powerplant, but the lack of features for the base model kills it. A base model Mustang GT, or any GR-86, just seems like a better way to spend my money.
The 86 also comes standard with a torsen diff. To think of spending 41k to get an open diff...
Remember these are just the launch models, other packages are going to come out that make more sense price wise
and Infiniti has a 300HP version of this exact engine on hand.
So Nissan can and very likely will have a 300HP version of the Z with a diff for around 36-38K, but then again Nissan
doesn't consider the 86/Miata a competitor they both are very different driving sports cars.
@@Vykk_Draygo Same. You could get a decently optioned Mustang or Camaro with a V8 for around the same price or alternatively a fully loaded Ecoboost that would be pretty close in performance. As well plenty of other alternatives in this price range.
If the base came with the LSD, Auto-Rev, Bose, and at least heated ultrasuede seats. That would of been a decent deal for $40K.
I was interested in the new Z, seemed an impressive value starting at just 39K with a twin turbo 6... But then I learned that they locked the frigging LSD behind a $10,000 paywall!!! Oooof!
Guess I'll go for the GR86 instead, which comes with LSD, STANDARD..
I was just looking at a GR86 as a possibility and found out it has 50 less hp, is 300 lbs heavier, gets worse gas mileage, and drinks more expensive fuel than my Accord 6MT. All that just for RWD and a new payment? Didn't make sense to me on paper, but maybe the driving experience would make me a believer. Still, if I'm going to take the plunge on a Premium gasser, I'll take a Camaro 2SS 1LE. Smiles per gallon 👍
That wheel hop on the manual launch looked rough as hell. Similar looking to how my 96 Firebird 3.8 was (I never did the struts on it in the near decade I owned it).
I'm going to guess that mounts will be some of the first mods people do to these.
that slop is in the irs cradle. its a problem in the q50/60 as well.
My 350Z did that too, can be dialled out with chassis mods
@@OxBlitzkriegxO So is it one of those: Ya get to choose between a urethane harsh bushing = NVH in the vehicle, vs. just deal with the oem softer bushings?
@@07wrxtr1 poly isnt that bad, not nearly as hard as a solid mount.
bmw switched to solid mounting their irs cradles in the more recent m3 and m4 but theres still compliance at the carrier itself.
I was thinking 10k was crazy difference between Sport and Performance until I saw EVERYTHING you get with the Performance model. Well worth the extra 10 grand IMO.
50k is kinda…. I dunno. 50k for a Z is a lot, they were practically giving them away 5-6 years ago, and you could get a NISMO for mid 40s. I’m wary of the Supra because of BMW gremlins. But modern Nissan isn’t like 90s Nissan with bullet proof motors so… I guess that’s a long way to say “meh”. I’d get a used RCF once the market corrects and get an actual quality Toyota product.
Bose speakers are my favorite "Performance" upgrade.
Somebody needs to come up with a round headlights conversion. Then it will be perfect
Or pop up headlights
I bought a 1977 280Z $7.2k drove it 10 years (yes I’m that long term driver guy) miss it. This looks like it could get me back to Nissan.
I mean they could have called it a 300z or zx. There were 2 generations of 300zx, a 2 generations of 280 with the z and zx. 🤷♂️.
I’ve been waiting for this review
Thank you for the informative analysis. Overall, seems like a fun car. It is a bummer LSD is not standard. Gotta go with the Performance version.
Honestly I think it looks sick. One of the best throw back looks I've ever seen on a car. The gaping hole in the nose takes you right back to the og Z cars. I think if they came out with a light weight version that dropped 100lbs then I might be inclined to give it a test drive.
Wonder if they had made some improvements to the clutch slave cylinder.
Making it out of plastic was a really bad idea. What do they think they are, BMW? Lulz.
It's external to the transmission housing in the new model. Not before time, of course!
The 6-speed manual has these changes:
new dual-mass flywheel with pendulum vibration dampener instead of mass-damper to return absorbed energy back to the powertrain instead of dissipating as heat
new first and second gear synchros to feel lighter and smoother
new clutch slave cylinder that is moved external to the transmission.
My old jk jeep had a plastic slave. Blew 2 of em at 100$ a pop. Sold it after 5 years. Pos wannabe off-road vehicle. Same as the new ones
Love your videos and how you explain
I disagree about the battery voltage gauge. It makes sense from an "engineering" standpoint (wink) that you would want to monitor your battery voltage when all other display gauges can be displayed on your "digital" dashboard. Otherwise why not just do all analogue and all of a sudden the voltage is not as important. I just think it makes sense from a practical perspective.. =) Love your vids by the way!!
I like the voltage display cause I seem to have the absolute worst luck with alternators (4 across various cars in the last 6 yrs). Although I don't exactly drive new cars, so maybe in 10 years I'll get to use it
@@the48thronin97 That would seem to make your life more convenient. 11V WTF? And you don't even need to open the hood. lol
I drive a turbocharged focus atm, I probably will not need the hatchback in the future the 2023 Z looks ideal just because it’s a manual with my favorite way to do turbocharged engines 😇 I’m get one for $20,000 in 4 years 😂
The wheel hop in this car is kinda crazy. You'll probably need to install an IRS cradle bracket like in the s550 stangs.
nope. been in the zs for nearly 20 years now. not an issue.
It's always about turbos and their compression...always there to help.
The battery voltage gauge would be helpful in a drained battery situation. You can’t read a dead screen.
True but why would you need to read a dead screen when the car won't start?
It's obvious if the battery is drained or not anyhow.
Yeah, I just feel like if your battery is dead you'll figure it out pretty quickly haha. But again, you can access oil temp & pressure on screen so that's nice.
Your doors also won't unlock (with the fob) 🤷♂️
i can read from a dead screen that it's not recieving any power, so something must be up with the supply.
@@EngineeringExplained at least they're not wasting one of the gauges on a crappy clock now
I feel like the rectangle grille is a retro touch, it's similar to the 240Z grille.
Pricing is disappointing considering it was developed with existing parts. If performance was at sports price, it would have been awesome, but with inflation, I suppose it isn't bad but not great
I don't like that all of the parts you touch are lifted straight out of the 370z
1:38 Turn left. Your'e welcome.
I envy you, we will not get Z on the European market, despite the fact that previous generations were quite popular here...
Fecking EU I assume its emissions bollock or sumthing alone those lines why not coming to Europe 🤔
Great review, as I am planning to purchase one myself(Performance trim). My dilemma is, MT or AT? I’m more of a “cruiser” type driver as I am older(55), and won’t be taking it to the track to actually “run it”, those days are past my prime lol, raced the amateur circuit in Abu Dhabi(Yas Marina Circuit, Aston Martin Gr3), and have done extensive Skip Barber courses…I am a bit of enthusiast, but it been 15 years since I’ve owned a MT, I’ve never driven the 370 and this will be my 1st “Z” car, so I am a bit conflicted and would appreciate and guidance on this matter…Thanks
So if you're planning to track this thing, I guess you might as well get the base model, yeah? Since your going to replace most of the stuff with aftermarket stuff anyways.
I think for the money, it's probably quite difficult to do all the changes they did for $10k. I'd go with Perf to get the factory LSD & better brakes (and rev-matching). But if you planning on changing things anyways, yeah, Sport saves you money upfront!
Aftermarket brakes, lsd, tires, and suspension willl be the way to go.
Your not getting coilovers, brakes, tires and an LSD purchased and installed for under 10k. Sorry
The engine mounts need to be more compliant for a V6 vs. a straight 6 because a straight 6 is inherently balanced whereas a V6 vibrates because it isn't balanced. The engine mounts used for a V6 aren't especially compliant, the shift knob will vibrate just the same as the engine if the shifter is mounted directly to the transmission case. I'm not sure whether I would or wouldn't want the shifter to not be mounted directly to the transmission case. I suspect that this will effect the preciseness of the shifting. I'd prefer to eliminate the need for the highly compliant engine mounts, and the way to do that is to use a straight 6 instead of a V6. It's all about tradeoffs because the V6 is more compact and allows better control of weight distribution. But, since the straight 6 is practically free of vibration, you don't need compliant mounts, which means that shifter isn't going to move around in relation to the chassis even if the shifter is mounted directly to the transmission case.
I don't think there is any way to avoid wheel hop in a vehicle prone to wheel spin. When you have traction the vehicle accelerates and the weight transfers to the rear, compressing the suspension springs. When the wheels abruptly lose traction, acceleration drops abruptly and weight shifts from the rear to the front. With less weight now on the rear wheels the loss of traction is even greater, which makes the loss of traction sort of a binary affair. With less weight on the rear wheels the springs expand, slowly in comparison to time needed for traction to go from full to whatever. Unless there is traction control involved, you won't ordinarily regain traction unless/until you slightly disengage the clutch and/or let off the accelerator pedal. Meanwhile, as the springs continue expanding, the rear squat that had settled in during the interval of hard acceleration subsides. Due to the inertia of the chassis, the rear of the vehicle moves higher past the normal, at-rest height, and then falls to the at-rest height and possibly beyond. As the rear of the chassis falls, the spring compresses and the contact force at the contact patch increases. Traction recovers, acceleration recovers, the weight transfers to the rear again, the suspension squats and everything is fine for a few hundred milliseconds until the wheels abruptly lose traction again and the cycle repeats. Stiffer springs and shocks may help, but if so, the reason that a stiffer suspension helps is that rear squat is reduced. The extra stiffness needed to significantly reduce rear squat can be so great as to make the ride very uncomfortable. Obviously grippier tires will make a big difference.
I still like the 370Z looks. If I was to have a 2 seat car, that would be it.
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104 comment is early Jason you are killing it
Most say hydraulic power steering is the best steering assistance for sport oriented car due to can have more direct feel of the steering relative to the road conditions. But for me, im not very fan of hydraulic is due to extra maintanence to take care of on top of the must-do regular maintainence like engine oil, coolant etc, also need to take care on the harden rubber tube, extra attachment on the engine etc. So, my pov is steering shouldnt need power assist, aka pure mechanical steering like the 80s car, which is the best when from let say 20mph or above for best road feel or tyre feels. EPS (eletric power steering) can fit the bill when come to variable power assist, the steering will be power assisted when the condition is needed especially stationary turning, also if can the EPS somehow can "tune" such as cut off power at certain speed to have best control of the road. Although both hydraulic and electric can do the trick but i would prefer EPS for lesser hassel.
Hydraulic assist steering barely requires maintenance also has better road feel than any electric steering assist.
I have changes 3 hydro parts in the Audi A4 b6 1.8t and 3 already in e36 m3, it’s get hot easily, vague feel, I prefer crystal clear electric no issues
nahhh im good 😂
@@romachoz hydro as in water pumps?
@@RealAnthonyJones how about no assist steering is better than hydraulic?
The front end styling is just the 240,26o,280z 's most popular modification everyone did, this time it's done from the factory. Everyone removed the bumper to clean up the front end styling. You ended up with the front end looking like the new Z! I'm surprised no one has noticed that.
In my opinion, the 370z nismo looks much better than the new one. I feel like it wouldn't get as many curious looks as the older nismo model
Yeah I think the Nismo looks great! But the back end, especially the lights, I think are a big improvement on the new Z.
The 370Z's also 350Z's headlight doesn't match the image of the Z family.
New z looks kinda like bad chinese copy of all z family altogether.
@@Vel1ar At least only JAPANESE like it
I think it looks nice but weird
However, GT500 racer version of this Z car is better than the road legal car because it is a silhouette GT race car.
Even the GT500 is equipped with the 2.0L SINGLE-TURBOCHARGED INLINE 4 CYLINDER ENGINE!!!
@@mano_max_sakuragi makes me wonder why doesn't Honda try to make a new s2000 with gt500 spec rules as a development bed.
Thanks for another great review! Question: Z vs Boxster chassis and handling?
I mean your comparing a light weight and much smaller mid-engine car to the Z, the Porsche is all but guaranteed to be the better
of the two. That said the FM platform was ahead of its time and the recent update should let it remain competitive with the segment.
Which isn't to say the Z is bad, its going to be a really fun car to drive without question.
I'm sure it will be better then previous Zs, but I doubt it will come close to the modern engineering behind a Porsche.
At 5:23 is it normal for the gear lever to shake that much when launching the car? I can hear that it’s from the wheel spin but it looks like a lot of lateral movement
Ha, yeah, seems like a lot. You'll notice even more in my video intro (watch my arm!). I think one thing worth mentioning is we have a direct linkage here, as the transmission sits right under the gear shift. If you had a FWD vehicle with cable driven shifter, you probably wouldn't get as much shake, but it's also not as direct of a connection.
Hello broken axles!
@@EngineeringExplained much like the ND Miata! Less torque in that car of course but same thing happens when there’s wheel hop or wheel spin and bumpy roads
The soft rubber they use for the diff and rear suspension are questionable. All it would take to fix, is some poly diff mounts, a diff brace and maybe even poly subframe mounts. Its been this bad on all Z's.
@@EngineeringExplained Aah I see, thanks!
2:52 Jason 😳
C'mon man, turbos don't steal so much power to make power.
They're also kinder to a manual drive train during up shifts due to the slight lag building the torque load steadily.
Automatic track car... don't even go there 🙂
Thank goodness Nissan made this because it forced Toyota to do something with the Supra. I hope Nissan sells enough to make an impact in the sports car market.
I hope for as many sales as possible, but the new Z is pretty much already paid for its co-developed alongside the G35/37 and now Q50/60.
Which isn't to say it didn't cost Nissan money to bring it to market but they don't need to sell that many to get a return on the investment.
Thats one of the big reasons why the 300ZX became the G35 and 350z so Nissan could build a dedicated sports car and then offset the R&D
Cost with a luxury vehicle that sells at higher volumes and margins.
Love you're videos!
Love *your* videos!
this is the first "modern Z" where it actually feels like the design team was doing a modern take on the classic Z cars, the 350z was just a rebagded Infiniti because they decided to bring back the Z car nameplate and wanted to do it cheap, the 370z was just an evolution of that and pretty much the same with the body of the R35, none of them felt like evolutions of the classic designs
Somehow feels like a classic for the future
is it like..a parts bin car with a new redesigned chassis?
It's still the same Chassis, just heavily modified.
I think the battery voltage gauge is a throwback to older sports cars. It was a lot more necessary back then due to much less reliable electrics.
It's a sports car. Why do they charge you $10,000 extra for "sport tuned suspension"?
I'm confident that's marketing language to inform you they do have differently tuned suspensions. I drove the Sport as well, and didn't notice a major difference in the suspension.
I think the extra package includes a limited slip differential. I wish it came standard with an LSD
'' I am not big fan of turbocharged engines ..'' - only line needed for thumbs up, and reason enough to come back to watch more of your videos.
Flat torque curve is only good for fuel efficiency and pure performance. It takes away the anticipation of the peak excitement at 7 k rpm. Robbing the driver the dopamine surge.
Body kit designers are going to have the best time ever replacing the factory front bumper. I feel like just about anything could look better than the factory
So many modern sports cars have overdesigned front bumpers with agressive shapes and pseudo-aero bits. It's refreshing to see something different.
Really looking forward to getting these in at the dealership where I work up here in Canada. They are supposed to be bringing one by for sort of show and tell very soon.
The new z is so much more than what you make it out to be here. Its a completely different experience then the last 370z.
Good shot of the floor mats at 4:35. I love that old school carpet that came in the early 240sx, but the Z looks like it has that cursed microfiber junk.
That shift wiggle is aggressive (5:23)
See at the beginning too, my arm goes wild haha! But to be fair it's wheel hopping.
fun fact: the performance is actually governed higher due to its rear wing. its a case similar to the first gen audi TT where the little wing actually improves downforce quite a lot, allowing higher top speeds
TT wing was added to easily identify the cars that had had the recall work done because the first cars kept killing people from terrible handling. They changed suspension, added ESP and also changed diff settings iirc. They were also terribly built and had dodgy electrics which Audi only addressed after a huge mass lawsuit against them where they would've had to refund or fully repair every single car if they lost. Absolutely terrible POS car, but VAG have strong marketing and expensive lawyers keeping the brand squeaky clean in the publics eyes.
The TT was a death trap till they added the spoiler. Don’t call it a wing…
The reviews I’m seeing so for, nobody seems to be over the moon for this car. 🤷🏼♂️
That's how I feel as well lol, but for me the twin turbo v6 was not the move but it's a cool car nonetheless :)
If you like the 370Z, this is a better version of it. It's a little heavy in my opinion, but it stays true to the Z line. Personally there are cars in this price range I prefer over it, but props to Nissan for making it, and making it themselves. I'd take this over a Supra or STI, but I find cars like BRZ, Miata, or even Type R to be more engaging.
@@EngineeringExplained perfectly put. For the stop light warriors I think this will be a nice option. I’m a handling car person so I’m more excited by lightweight engaging options.
@@gryphon123456 stop putting others down because you have different taste. You’re not unique stfu
I agree with the design. They could have done a better job. The only thing i like is the inside in my opinion. Liked the 370 design way better.