The Nissan 240Z changed the reputation of a whole country | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 24

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  • Опубликовано: 18 май 2022
  • On the heels of the 2023 Nissan Z, it’s a worth look at the history of the original Nissan Fairlady Z - sold in America as the Datsun 240Z, 260Z and 280Z.
    And, in particular, the Fairlady Z432.
    This S30-generation Z not only changed the definition of “sports car” from 2-seat (British) roadster to 2-seat enclosed coupe, but changed the reputation of Japanese automakers around the world from manufacturers of curious cars to world-class automakers.
    The 240Z was powered by the L24-powered, a somewhat-Mercedes-derived straight-six that gave it performance on par with Ferrari Dinos and Porsche 911s, at a fraction of the cost. But with all the looks of Ferrari’s front-engine V12-powered coupes.
    The 240Z had waiting lists for years in America. It was such a runaway success that credit for its design became hotly contested, leading to a threatened lawsuit by Albrecht Goertz, a German aristocrat who had been hired by Nissan to consult on the project - which was originally a collaboration between Nissan and Yamaha.
    That collaboration was for a closed, two-seater sports car large enough to comfortably fit two Americans. It was not coincidentally the size of a contemporary Porsche 911, since Goertz had worked on that project also. Ultimately, Yamaha’s A550X concept was born from this project, but Nissan turned it down.
    So, too, did Toyota, but who viewed Yamaha as a potential partner for its own sports car. That became the Toyota 2000GT, and its success spurred Nissan to continue work on its own sports car to replace the Fairlady, called Datsun 2000 Roadster in America.
    The result was the Fairlady Z, sold in the US as the Datsun 240Z. And it was a revelation.
    Featured in this episode is a Japan-only Fairlady Z432, which is a Z with the DOHC 24-valve S20 Prince racing engine from the Nissan GT-R. It cost double as much as the base Z in Japan, so it was largely unsuccessful, but Jason postulates that may be the best-sounding six-cylinder of all time.
    Listen to it scream on a POV run up a mountain and perhaps you’ll agree. Subscribe to our RUclips channel for new videos every day!
    Datsun Fairlady images courtesy of Kevin McCauley
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  • @GarrettKuna
    @GarrettKuna 2 года назад +1534

    My day gets so much better when there's a new Cammisa video.

    • @matthewdaniels7462
      @matthewdaniels7462 2 года назад +4

      And we some of the 1st to see it woo. Happy motoring fam.

    • @violin245
      @violin245 2 года назад +15

      Seriously. my car broke down, might have major engine damage and I had to pay 100 in lyft costs to still be late for work but Jason put out a video so I consider this a good day!!!

    • @Felix-qy1oi
      @Felix-qy1oi 2 года назад +7

      My dad gets so much hornier when there's a new Cammisa video.

    • @mcspikesky
      @mcspikesky 2 года назад +1

      My day gets a little harder when Jason posts a video..

    • @dbowen22
      @dbowen22 2 года назад

      Same 😭

  • @TnDAtkinson
    @TnDAtkinson 2 года назад +396

    That ending has the most beautiful engine sound. I drove a 280z, with EFI and a 5-speed, back in my college days. The 25 minute trip to school, all highways and back roads, was the best part of the day.

    • @Cherokeelion
      @Cherokeelion 2 года назад +17

      Instant smiles. What a sound

    • @HoffmansHoopties
      @HoffmansHoopties 2 года назад +6

      Straight up unbelievable sound 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵

    • @mattjacomos2795
      @mattjacomos2795 2 года назад +2

      I own a Mazda MX -3 with the 1.8 litre, Quad Cam V6 and revs to 7800, and it has headers...

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 2 года назад +1

      72,6 pack carbs,diesel crank and huge cam,cage,fun car when the carbs would behave

    • @jaxoneering5469
      @jaxoneering5469 2 года назад +2

      Right! I played the end driving clip over a few times. Even called my wife into the room to hear it :)

  • @albertadams2095
    @albertadams2095 2 года назад +369

    The driving footage and the sounds at the end gave me chills. That car has so much soul.

    • @shakeydavesr
      @shakeydavesr Год назад +8

      Not just yeah, but, heck yeah,,,,

    • @--Allen--
      @--Allen-- Год назад +3

      Lord have mercy what a beautiful sound!

    • @itsthemetho
      @itsthemetho Год назад +9

      Eyes closed, I was just in heaven listening to that. ;)

    • @bghoody5665
      @bghoody5665 Год назад +3

      That Fairlady was singing.

    • @zachsheffield1325
      @zachsheffield1325 Год назад +2

      Why have a fine instrument when you can have such a fine automobile!!?

  • @The_Crimson_Fucker
    @The_Crimson_Fucker 2 года назад +148

    The sound on that 432 is something else entirely.
    It's absolutely breathtaking.

    • @adel5637
      @adel5637 Год назад +4

      Yup, sound wise it's even as good as if not better than the legendary jz and rb

    • @negativeindustrial
      @negativeindustrial 20 дней назад

      @@adel5637
      Let’s not get carried away.

  • @odstj.d.rookie2894
    @odstj.d.rookie2894 2 года назад +1563

    Absolutely love this show from Hagerty, Jason has the perfect personality to talk about cars but make it awesome.

    • @Kiss__Kiss
      @Kiss__Kiss 2 года назад +2

      Exactly!!!

    • @daneaustin2468
      @daneaustin2468 2 года назад +13

      The bench mark.

    • @michaelmoser2130
      @michaelmoser2130 2 года назад +1

      very true

    • @jmpm3
      @jmpm3 2 года назад +6

      He really makes the best automotive videos on RUclips. More please!

    • @rjlopez9358
      @rjlopez9358 2 года назад +11

      Jason is the future jeremy clarkson. 💯

  • @NoClassic
    @NoClassic 2 года назад +332

    I had no idea there was an MB connection to the inline engines they produced. This series is still the best thing out there in automotive media right now.

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 2 года назад +15

      Its interesting to see how much history Nissan and Mercedes have. Even now still sharing parts and platforms

    • @oneflewoverthecuckoosnest2823
      @oneflewoverthecuckoosnest2823 2 года назад +16

      @@air-headedaviator1805 An older man always said to me that Mazda was the Japanese Mercedes and i said no that's Nissan!

    • @davidrabenius726
      @davidrabenius726 2 года назад +3

      I have heard that the rockers on the L series engines were direct copies of the Mercedes engines from the 1950's

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 года назад +3

      @@air-headedaviator1805 But Prince produced some engines, including that one, for MB though.

    • @rudydiego3084
      @rudydiego3084 2 года назад

      Autopia La is also a good channel

  • @tariq7408
    @tariq7408 2 года назад +3

    4:55 the headlights being that yellow/warm just SCREAMS late 60s/early 70s😂

  • @briankorner750
    @briankorner750 Год назад +92

    Man, that 432 straight six sings beautifully. I grew up riding in my parents 73 240z. Great memories.

  • @therealturbofanisme
    @therealturbofanisme 2 года назад +296

    This content is pure gold. I *love* that every one of these episodes ends with engine noises recorded inside and outside the car WITH NO MUSIC OR TALKING. Never stop driving, indeed.

  • @650ib
    @650ib 2 года назад +664

    Jason is as legendary as the Nissan Z cars 💯💯💯💯

    • @arride4590
      @arride4590 2 года назад +2

      Look who are here 🙂

    • @edkar7604
      @edkar7604 2 года назад

      Uhhhhh not even a little

    • @scotte2815
      @scotte2815 2 года назад +3

      uh, Jason, in some languages, means bag of hot stinky air that attaches itself to something interesting.

    • @MTadventurerider
      @MTadventurerider 2 года назад +2

      @@scotte2815 Oh man! You brought a tear to my eye in laughter from the sheer hilarity of that statement!

    • @vdochev
      @vdochev 2 года назад +1

      This comment needs 432 likes.

  • @VirtualGuth
    @VirtualGuth 2 года назад +165

    I was 8 when I first saw a 240Z out on the street and I can still remember that moment. To me the original Z remains one of the most beautiful car designs ever, regardless of the price/value attached.

    • @Behine.DeChilis
      @Behine.DeChilis 2 года назад +5

      Agree. Something very special about the shape. And the sound!!

    • @SFbayArea94121
      @SFbayArea94121 Год назад

      I mean, it’s alright looking

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 Год назад +1

      Yea unfortunately the Japanese copied a Ferrari GT 250 to get that body style. So the most beautiful car you saw was really a Ferrari.

    • @VirtualGuth
      @VirtualGuth Год назад +11

      ​@@craigthescott5074 That's funny. Designers have been inspired by one another throughout the ages, this is nothing new. While it is possible that the Ferrari was among the cars that inspired the design of the 240Z, the 250 GT certainly wasn't without its peers and predecessors in terms of design. Any of those cars might have played a role in what would become the 240Z. Yet it is the aesthetic of the 240Z that I most prefer.

    • @ratsun5603
      @ratsun5603 Год назад +6

      @@VirtualGuth the proportions of the Z is just spot on.

  • @buckroger6456
    @buckroger6456 2 года назад +65

    Love the 240Z it's still a great looking car after all these years.

  • @istvanlorinczi2817
    @istvanlorinczi2817 2 года назад +207

    Whole lotta Z content with Cammisa, the drag race, this Revelations and soon the ICONS. Good times

    • @TheTkpham
      @TheTkpham 2 года назад +5

      Is an ICONS ep about the Z coming? I CAN'T wait! I know Jason hates how the industry moved away from fun and engagement towards focusing on lap times and drag times, but the rest of the world cares, hence the drag race video... but I was really hoping to hear more driving impressions from him about the NEW Z.
      But can't go wrong with some classic 240Z content either.

    • @istvanlorinczi2817
      @istvanlorinczi2817 2 года назад +6

      @@TheTkpham he posted about it on insta with all Z's together. 240Z, 280ZX, 300ZX (both Z31 and Z32) 350Z, 370Z and 400Z. He did say couple of weeks tho

    • @yglnvbrs
      @yglnvbrs 2 года назад

      Russian spy confirmed

  • @brendanmcaleer4058
    @brendanmcaleer4058 2 года назад +288

    When the Z43 went racing, it became part of a really interesting internal Nissan-Prince rivalry, as the Prince guys never gave the Nissan team the best stuff; apparently ex-Prince employees were angry that Nissan was using "their" engine.
    The *ultimate* Z is the Z432R, which is basically a stripped out Z432, but also features acid-dipped body panels for weight. Z432R bodies were used in the early Safari cars (this was cheating, but ain't cheating if you don't get caught). About 50 Z432Rs were built, nineteen of them road cars. There is one well-known owner in Japan who still drives his on the road regularly - often catch him at Daikoku PA. It's the second most valuable Japanese car after the 2000GT, and has probably crossed the seven figure mark by now.

    • @JSpecGC8
      @JSpecGC8 2 года назад +16

      Even Z professionals dont agree on but is very true, you couldnt just go and buy a 432 or a 432R from the dealer, also the S20 in the Z is not identical to the Hakos S20

    • @phantommedia9964
      @phantommedia9964 2 года назад +3

      wow.

    • @Schmitzelhaus
      @Schmitzelhaus 2 года назад +8

      Damn, that´s quite the rabbit hole to go down, not bad! 😅👌

    • @SonOfTamriel
      @SonOfTamriel 2 года назад +3

      @@Schmitzelhaus No doubt, that's awesome. Learn something new every day

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 года назад

      @@JSpecGC8 where they like an early AMG thing where you had to the buy the car then hand it to prince?

  • @clayjones2370
    @clayjones2370 2 года назад +76

    So great! I owned a 240Z my last year of high school and miss it to this day (40+ years!). Such a fun car to drive and easy to work on. Thanks, Jason. I especially appreciate the last bit, where there was no music other than that mellifluous twin-cam. I'm drooling!

    • @rickburrell5597
      @rickburrell5597 Год назад +5

      If you liked that drive, go up to the search bar and take a look for the video "late to church in my datsun 240z hero cam hd". Now that's a drive which brings back memories for me, tire squeal on the corners, headers, and well tuned carbs. Instead of reaching for the slipper like this guy does in the video though, I used to reach for another Schooner beer from the storage locker behind the passenger seat.

    • @ETrys
      @ETrys Год назад +1

      @@rickburrell5597 it was an amazing video.

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 3 месяца назад +2

    I appreciate the format of his videos...like talking to a good friend in your car garage while drinking a beer or sipping on tea ❤

  • @mavrickmiller2755
    @mavrickmiller2755 2 года назад +107

    I'm so glad Hagerty are listening to our feedback. WE LOVE THIS SERIES

  • @Funsho97
    @Funsho97 2 года назад +156

    Hands down this is the best show on the Hagarty channel, very entertaining and informative!!!

  • @worthamsgarage
    @worthamsgarage 2 года назад +66

    This might be my favorite Revelations yet! I learned sooo much from this one!…. Also, I could listen to that S20 all day!!!

    • @freedom55or95
      @freedom55or95 2 года назад +2

      Wow the S20 exhaust note is awesome

  • @kennethswain6313
    @kennethswain6313 Год назад +11

    I had a ‘78 280z fuel injected w/ 5 speed It would get 28 miles per gallon and would cruise nicely at 80. May be my favorite of all time!

  • @thomasxl200
    @thomasxl200 2 года назад +78

    Ooh I have been waiting for this. And you got a Z 432! An incredible engine.

  • @PostalTwinkie
    @PostalTwinkie 2 года назад +37

    In 2001-2002 an old friend purchased an original, 30K mile, 240Z for $3,000 from his neighbor. White on black, 100% original. Amazing car. Unbelievable price.
    I just hope he still has it all these years later.

    • @davidrabenius726
      @davidrabenius726 2 года назад +1

      I had a beautiful 1973 that was in immaculate condition. I paid $ 4,500 for it in 1984, people ( Datsun Z club ) thought I was insane. The car had been painted by a real pro. I called him and he said that it would take $3,400. to do it again and he remembered the cars original owner. I sold it but about 3 months later I got bitten again and bought a 1970 for $2,500. It needed about $1,600 worth of work but was awesome when done.
      Flash forwards to 2008 and I saw my old neighbors Competition Z 1970Z at a car meet. Surprised to see a new owner I asked him and he said that he bought it off some retired Glendale City Prosecutor for $1,500. Seems the head was warped and he lost interest in repairing it so he parked it in his garage. The previous owner was having a garage sale and wanted the garage space back. That car when I had my 73 was probaly worth $7,500 to replicate the motor & suspension. It had most of the Datsun Competition equipment plus custom made parts on it. I had my Z at VPC ( same builder ) in Phoenix and I was taken for a ride in it. To say it was brutal would be an understatement. The ride was short but I had the shakes afterwards, Mike tried to stop the car suddenly and hit a patch of sand and I thought that this was the end of Sam's Z. Luckily Mike the owner at VPC was a full race driver and made several imputs and just missed crashing it. The engine was full race but daily driven on the street....Those were the days!!

    • @shehandesilva7530
      @shehandesilva7530 2 года назад +1

      In the mid 2000s when I first started making my own money I started looking in to these - got so close to buying one, clean drivers could easily be had for $5-10k. Instead I ended up buying an E30 for $2k instead of the Z (or an E30 M3 for like $10-15k at the time lol, which sounded like a crazy premium over a regular E30). Don't regret that decision one bit - but I routinely think back about what would've been if I had bought a 240Z instead, especially given what they cost now and knowing I would never buy one at this point. Hopefully there's an alternate me in an alternate universe that bought the Z instead of the E30 and enjoyed every second of owning it.

  • @vincentmurphy1269
    @vincentmurphy1269 Год назад +1

    I was a poor college student in 1972 with a clapped out MG Midget. I hung out with some rich guys who had a 240Z and a Porsche 914 - 6. I fell in love with the Datsun and finally bought one for my collection a couple of years ago. It lived up to my expectations in every way and still brings a smile to my 69 year old face.
    Great video and terrific history lesson. Thanks for all you do for the hobby , Hagerty !

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 2 года назад +1

    The last segment, pure mechanical music, an orchestra of pistons and valve with a clear-throated induction choir. Bravo!

  • @Loki_S13
    @Loki_S13 2 года назад +134

    I love how short and informative these videos are! No cliffhangers or trying to force the viewer to stay. Just great writing and editing!

    • @chrissholly9730
      @chrissholly9730 2 года назад +2

      Yes it's informative and sometimes ,shocking detail that thrills ,god this is car lovers porn ....... Don't ever change these endings with the driver view point with a few curves and accelerations yea baby !!!!

  • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
    @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 года назад +48

    My favourite Nissan of all time. Above even the GTR imo, simply sublime. Love at 1st sight.

    • @visionop8
      @visionop8 2 года назад +2

      No one hates you for that. Solid.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 года назад +2

      Have you driven a Nissan 510? 😉

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 2 года назад

      @@ytsux9259 no where near as special as a a 240 or any generation of a real Gtr( up to r34). Bmw 2002, Ford escort, fulvia and Alfa gulia are better cars in the mid century door slammer coupe segment..... Matter of fact, Datsun copied exactly to the T, the underpinnings of the 2002.....

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 2 года назад +1

      @@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo I think you mean the 1602, the 2002 came later. And most of those cars you mentioned shared the same concept (revvy 4-cyl, semi-trailing-arm rear suspension) so to say they "copied to a T" the 2002 is inaccurate. What made the 510 appealing was that it cost significantly less than the BMW and the Alfa for similar performance and driving experience (and the classic Escort never sold in the US)

  • @jimasuncion3904
    @jimasuncion3904 Год назад +7

    Oh my gosh! The sound of that straight 6 in the end just gives me chills! I love this channel! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @scottimusgarrett15
    @scottimusgarrett15 2 года назад +30

    Ah, Jason, you made my day! I love these cars, and remember when Nissan was selling "new" 240's factory refurbished. Crazy!
    Thanks Jason, and crew for your prodigious talents! Every episode is cinematic. Kudos!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦

    • @pkerch
      @pkerch Год назад +1

      The Heritage project! I actually test drove one here in Dallas just to see how well they were restored - this one was tip-top!

  • @stevetomato4802
    @stevetomato4802 2 года назад +52

    Th Revelations series is amazing. It even tops Jason's similar previous projects. Jason and Hagerty are great together and I grow thankful that they're working together with each video release. The motoring world owes them a debt of gratitude for telling these historical stories and making them so accessible and entertaining.

    • @nl3712
      @nl3712 2 года назад

      Well put

  • @TOM-C.
    @TOM-C. 2 года назад +20

    My dad drove up one day in a brand new 1972, beautiful, blue 240 Z! I was 12, and shocked as this was not the style of car my parents ever bought having three kids. I always felt like the cool kid when dad would pick me up from school, and do over a 100mph every trip home. 😁👍✌

    • @Balangair1
      @Balangair1 2 года назад

      Wow! Lucky bugger! My Dad bought a compact 1 litre Datsun sedan in 1970! ;-)

    • @TOM-C.
      @TOM-C. 2 года назад

      @@Balangair1 My older brothers at the time bought the Datsun 1200, and B210 Fastback. My aunt bought a 1200 as well which I eventually wound up with. The motor blew and I bought a race engine from a local shop who specialized in these cars, and had the auto changed to a stick. Then, my brother gave me his cool wide tire mags off his B210, and I was race ready with my otherwise ugly looking, jacked up, 110 hp 1200 sedan. 😁 It was pretty quick compared to equal cars of the day so was a lot of fun.👍✌

    • @TOM-C.
      @TOM-C. 2 года назад

      @@Balangair1 Hey, it got from a to b with no problems. I've had the blessing to have a lot of nice cars over the Years, but am now stuck driving a Ford taxi car with a big V8, I'd love to have that 1 liter Datsun now! 😁

  • @jacobchesley5375
    @jacobchesley5375 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nissan has THE best sounding 6 cylinder motors. They're magic.

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac108 Месяц назад

    My brother has worked in the car business all his life and has had a side business restoring classic 60s & 70s muscle cars. His current, and last, project is a total ground up restoration of one of the first 1970 240Zs.
    I have a 2019 370Z that I bought new and have loved since the day I got it.

  • @furzbirre
    @furzbirre 2 года назад +43

    Thanks Jason, as always excellent entertainment, one of the best automotive journalists on RUclips.

    • @PerplexedPhoton
      @PerplexedPhoton 2 года назад +2

      One of the best automotive journalists... In the world.

    • @furzbirre
      @furzbirre 2 года назад +2

      @@PerplexedPhoton Thanks for the correction 😁

  • @theeeMitchi
    @theeeMitchi 2 года назад +39

    That engine sound is eye-watering. Thank you so much for your videos and for always proving good pov footage!

    • @bladerunner5810
      @bladerunner5810 Год назад

      @@FixingWithFriendsNo....the L series was perfect. It was virtually indestructible.... along with the matching manual transmissions. They were million mile units. Unfortunately, the coach work was not.

  • @aswinhoola
    @aswinhoola 2 года назад +21

    You are literally the best automotive journalist I've ever seen in my life. Thank you

  • @JmanRx81
    @JmanRx81 14 дней назад

    Jason Cammisa is possibly the best automotive journalist/presenter/aficionado currently working.

  • @MrRawnch
    @MrRawnch 2 года назад +9

    Just got my '77 280Z back in my garage. The design aesthetic is still breathtaking by today's standards.

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 2 года назад +1

      Let's see pics of you driving it,we are waiting

    • @MrRawnch
      @MrRawnch 2 года назад +1

      @@SpaceRanger187 Come to Denver and I won't have to send pics. 😄

  • @yoanfernanda
    @yoanfernanda 2 года назад +30

    I was introduced to this car by anime series called Wangan Midnight. The story was focused on cursed Fairlady which owned by highschool students called Akio Asakura. In his friend's shop, Akio tweaked the Z and use it for racing on the highway.
    Too bad this series was overshadowed by anime on the same genre that tells the story of tofu-delivery Toyota.

    • @Basics_of_Gameology
      @Basics_of_Gameology 2 года назад +8

      Kinda different types of racing though, Wangan is a highway-horsepower-downforce at max speed game, and the D is a touge racing anime :D

    • @bowlander
      @bowlander 2 года назад +2

      They are both great anima series, the benefit is all of wangan midnight is on youtube! Just don't watch the live action versions of these shows, they are horrific.

    • @yoanfernanda
      @yoanfernanda 2 года назад

      @@bowlander is it? I think the live action version was quite decent enough. Especially when they appeared the character with hot red R34 👌🏾

  • @WatchmakerErik
    @WatchmakerErik 2 года назад +8

    Hagertys video team should teach a master class on video production. So glad I'm a member.
    Also, Jason Cammisa is my spirit animal.

  • @navret1707
    @navret1707 Год назад +1

    I had a brand new ‘71 Z and a used ‘72. Both were great sports cars once I swapped out the Zenith knockoffs with Weber side drafts. The only problem I had with them was rust. They both rusted like a ‘55 Ford.
    My ‘71 cost $4,000 total, including tax, title and tags. About the same price as a BMW 2002. Only had to wait 4 months to get it. It was a head turner back then, even the hideous pumpkin orange, which mine was. There was so much room in the engine compartment that it was a joy to work on. Side note: all the tapped holes for the smog junk could be plugged with lug bolts. No kidding. All the smog crap came off mine and was stored in a box in a corner of my garage.

  • @shingoose6197
    @shingoose6197 2 года назад +23

    I adore the 432. Ever since I found out about them years ago, they've been at the top of my "I love this car" list. Because it's a six figure car (and in 432R spec, seven figure), I can't afford one...for now. I purchased the successor to the 432, the 200ZR. It's a 3rd generation Z, so it's more GT orientated. But it's the last to have an inline six; the RB20DET. I could go on and on about the 432 and 200ZR, but I want to thank Hagerty, Jason, and the team for featuring a car I love so much.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm 2 года назад +2

      7 figure... that's crazy. For that price I can build my own 432 from an ordinary 240... I can't understand purists and collectors tbh, they allways pay a false price for at the end of the day only "an object"

    • @shingoose6197
      @shingoose6197 2 года назад +1

      @@JP-xd6fm the only made a handful of the R variants. It's a special motorsports homologation version.
      The other thing to consider as to why they're so expensive is the fact that a used S20 engine is knocking on the door of $100,000.
      You're right, you could make your own 432/432R. Maybe use a Datsunworks KN20 DOHC head or an OS Giken TC24-B1Z engine. Maybe even a hybrid RBL engine.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 года назад

      @@JP-xd6fm That's like saying why buy a pair of Nike Jordans when $10 shoes work the same. It's not the point.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm 2 года назад

      @@ytsux9259 Is a bad example, the thing is for example a pair of Nike air that where used by Michael Jordan and sombody paid 1.5million for them and that's what I think is stupid because you can have a new pair of a good Jordans for , How much? 200$? I think you can pay more than 10$ to have a good shoes, but paying million and a half is idiotic.

  • @555Trout
    @555Trout 2 года назад +8

    My mom had one. It was the car I learned to drive in.
    I'd never thought of it that way before. But my entire life a real car has a clutch and stick shift cause I started in a Z.
    My mom never had a 4 seat car her entire life. 65 years of sports cars.
    Oh if I had that collection.
    I remember her first, an Austin Healey Sprite. Hauling me and my baby sister around in that tiny thing. Next was an MG Midget .
    Then came the 240Z.
    Then a Mercedes 350sl.
    Then a Mazda rx7.
    Then back to a Z, forgot the #..
    And about 5 more ...
    She was funny.
    Liked her sports cars.

    • @alistairwillock7266
      @alistairwillock7266 2 года назад

      You've been very lucky. Your gearhead bona fides are as pure as they come.

    • @555Trout
      @555Trout 2 года назад

      @@alistairwillock7266 🙂

  • @jrvasquez
    @jrvasquez 5 месяцев назад

    Man, this was truly excellent! I'm a 70 year old man and I have owned these babies in this order: 1971 240Z, 1977 280Z, 1978 280Z, 1982 280ZX Turbo, 1987 300ZX, 1992 300ZX and finally a 1995 300ZX Twin Turbo. Yeah, Nissan should have gifted me stock shares! After 1996 I no longer cared for the way the Z's were styled. Different strokes. I do wish I had hung on to the 1978 Z and the 1992 ZX. Even the new Z looks goofy to my 70 year old eyes.
    The 2000 Roadster is a very sweet machine!

  • @herberthall8082
    @herberthall8082 2 года назад

    In 1972 I bought a Jaguar XKE roadster convertible. It was the greatest car I had, when it ran. I had continuous electrical and other problems with the minimum of available mechanical support. There just that wasn't that many dealerships or mechanics.
    In 1973, I bought a Datsun 510 sedan four-door. That was a great running car which worked well for its purpose and was easily repaired. I drove that car for many years and then parked it in my shed. Years later, I pulled the car out of the shed, we rebuilt it, and raced it in 4 cylinder enduro class on a 1/2 mile asphalt stock car track. It easily out handled the Ford Pintos that it raced against.
    In 1982, I bought a Datsun 1982 ZX 2+2, black with tan leather interior and t-tops. Fully loaded, it cost me $17,000. I really like that car and drove it for 8 years, 200,000 miles. At the end, the engine and drivetrain were still great. The only reason I got a different vehicle was that the interior and other parts have become worn.
    Your video made me realize how much Datsun has been a part of my driving history.

  • @mydauphinefilms
    @mydauphinefilms 2 года назад +42

    Yes indeed this is a glorious sound! Music to my ears! Thx to Jason and Hagerty for the awesome content you create. Love it!

  • @Cherokeelion
    @Cherokeelion 2 года назад +3

    I can listen to that 6 rip along all day. What a sound!

  • @OutnBacker
    @OutnBacker 2 года назад +1

    When I was 22, I bought a year old 280Z. That car was one of the best built automobiles I have ever owned. Not as fast as the 240 or 260, but I couldn't tell it from the driver's seat. A very well executed car in all respects. The last of the small roadsters.

  • @glnnchrstphr9717
    @glnnchrstphr9717 Год назад +2

    My first Z was a 78 280. I paid $650 back in 86. It had been painted white with mother of pearl in the clear coat. Black interior and, of course, the obligatory 5 speed. God I miss that car!!

  • @gregdcross
    @gregdcross 2 года назад +6

    Jason, yet another excellent video. I remember when the 240Z came to America. What a breakthrough moment. It turned Datsun/Nissan image from a cheap low performance Japanese auto manufacturer to one that could supply style and some performance at a very affordable price. Today, the design of the 240Z is still beautiful and the sound of the Fairlady 6 is still one of the best sounding 6 cylinders ever made.

  • @akbarsatria6272
    @akbarsatria6272 2 года назад +11

    Love the engine sound & love the styling. I was introduce to 240Z by the manga Wangan Midnight & immediately fell in love with main protagonist "Devil Z"

  • @Legalisation
    @Legalisation 2 месяца назад

    My uncle had a 280z in the 80's. Once my dad came to pick me up after school with it. All the kids gathered around the car to see it. Was def a memory ill treasure.

  • @predatorpwr
    @predatorpwr Год назад

    These videos are so high end and amazingly well done, so fun and informative. Thank you for your service.

  • @SwagatPatasahani
    @SwagatPatasahani 2 года назад +4

    Always fun to watch Revelations with JC. Keep the info coming. Awesome content. 🤟

  • @jebremocampo9194
    @jebremocampo9194 2 года назад +3

    I'm a simple guy, I see Jason Camissa and Hagerty, I click

  • @ChefPelle
    @ChefPelle 2 года назад +1

    That's the best pronunciation of german I've ever heard from an american. Excellent show!

  • @luisp.cuellar619
    @luisp.cuellar619 2 года назад

    Man first video I see from your channel is probably the best and most entertaining review about cars I've seen...and the car !
    I had a 77 one...it's was 20 years old...and it was a monster I still remember that car with a smile, it has been one the very best Car I ever owned. And to see this history about the whole project wow!...did not know the 432 existed and totally love it. Thank you, and from now on I am subscribed , cheers !

  • @alex.antolini
    @alex.antolini 2 года назад +4

    Dude, what an awesome video. Love the car, and love when there's more stuff from Jason to watch. Him and the boys from TH, best car videos today by THIS big of a margin.

  • @rohankansagara848
    @rohankansagara848 2 года назад +14

    Hands down amazing review! Nissan holds a soft spot for me because of its racing heritage and legacy. Man would I love to drive that 432 😄

    • @rt2255
      @rt2255 2 года назад

      First i ever heard of 432 bet one of those today is near priceless.

  • @jaynuck
    @jaynuck 2 месяца назад +1

    That’s the best straight six noise I’ve ever heard. Hands down. Maybe the best engine noise. I have to imagine that motor with a bump in compression and some juicy cams would be the absolute pinnacle.

    • @hoedemakerbart
      @hoedemakerbart 2 месяца назад +1

      It is.. i have a 240z with a bigger cam in the L24. The sound at 7k is heaven 😅 the L series are great engines. A 3 liter stroker triple carb in this 1 ton car would be a rocket

  • @brahilly
    @brahilly Год назад

    I bought a new 280Z in 1977, silver with a black interior. It was such a joy to drive that I put 40,000 miles on it in the first year. With the exception of the outrageous bumpers, it was the most attractive thing on four wheels anywhere. It would cruise at 90 all day at under 3,000rpm. I had a 1969 Pontiac GTO that did that at 60. I sold it reluctantly when my wife and I began our family. Watching the new owner drive away with it was ( and I'm not afraid to admit it) heartbreaking.

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 2 года назад +32

    The most famous example of the ”New Safe Cabrio’s” (other than the Targa) must be Fiat X1/9, completely made for the US. It also had impressive crash structures front/rear with a solid passenger cell. Sadly never got the twincam it needed tho!

    • @andrewsmart2949
      @andrewsmart2949 2 года назад +2

      but was tubocharged by bell or spearco as i remember

    • @bladerunner5810
      @bladerunner5810 Год назад

      As is the case with all Fiats made for the US.....it was....sadly....a POS.

    • @rayblackard1974
      @rayblackard1974 Год назад +1

      Had a x19... stopped to get gas in West Virginia & ayiung dude there asked me: "is that a boat car?" First thought he said sports car, but then wanted to know how it went on water. Also the front held enough ice to be excellent cooler. Just had to be extra careful on curves when ice shifted!!! Good memories!! Take care.

    • @sunbeam8866
      @sunbeam8866 Год назад

      ....or the rustproofing!

  • @amccaulx
    @amccaulx 2 года назад +7

    Everything Jason works in ends up being amazing! Especially love his Hagerty content!

  • @richardmountz3865
    @richardmountz3865 Месяц назад

    I have owned three 260Z's and a 2+2 ZX and still have two of the 260's. One is a pro street 2+2 with 16 in. wheel tubs/ ford 9 inch, a BUILT 220 HP 280 engine.
    And it is the best sounding engine I've ever heard.

  • @Hezath
    @Hezath 2 года назад

    Platinum content. Jason is doing spot on work here, and the final scenes are exactly what we're supposed to be seeing and listening to. Thank you.

  • @NateHigga
    @NateHigga 2 года назад +11

    While other cartubers are releasing their videos of the new Z,
    Jason and Hagerty has done it again, you guys are special!

  • @James-pl2oy
    @James-pl2oy 2 года назад +12

    Amazing how one company could concurrently produce two automotive icons in the Skyline GT-R and Z

    • @andrewsmart2949
      @andrewsmart2949 2 года назад

      the 300zx never launched strait,a trait well and truly sorted out in R32 onwards skyline chassis

  • @adrees
    @adrees 2 года назад +1

    God, the music at the end made me cry. I need to get out on the California winding roads and just drive.

  • @concept2realitysobellc453
    @concept2realitysobellc453 Год назад

    Jason.i was fortunate to have a 260z as my first car,bought from my pal Darryl 3mnths b4 I had passed my test!my gd fortune was that Darryl had bought lightweight front wings,bigger carbs,uprated new shocks/suspension brakes..and then he got banned for a year!!as I said,my good fortune!! My gd pal sean(to this day the best mechanic I've ever met!!)loaded it all and car on his flatbed and took it into his garage/ shop on dec27th..and fervently went to work putting it all together(just like humpty dumpty!)he even fitted a blaunkpunt stereo cassette,graphic equaliser and massive rear shelf speakers and 6mre speakers and electric windows in it..breathless!!best part he deliverd it to my door at 7pm on new yrs eve..just in time for me to go pick up my girlfreind for dinner and the best most epic new years eve night out i hve ever had!! And it ran and worked perfectly!!sean,like I said was and is my most fave mechanic.ever!thought. I wld share my love for my zcar. Hope u enjoyed my story..

  • @jasonkelley6185
    @jasonkelley6185 2 года назад +5

    Keep em coming Jason! I think it’s become pretty clear that you’re crushing this series. Don’t let it go to your head. ;-)

  • @74grinder
    @74grinder 2 года назад +4

    I had no idea that the L24 was essentially a Mercedes’ engine. Makes sense. My great uncle claimed to have the first one in Santa Clara county. I was a kid when he had it, but it had a rawness that I loved and not found in modern cars. Btw that 432 Fairlady looks like an absolute blast at the end. I had no idea that existed probably because, JDM.

    • @hoedemakerbart
      @hoedemakerbart Год назад +1

      The patent maybe. But nothing on the engine is the same like Mercedes.

  • @StephenZ827
    @StephenZ827 2 года назад

    I graduate in 1972 and like a lot of kids my age , flipped thru the car magazines. Saw the ad for the Z and knew I had to have one...love at first slight. Dad and I went to look and saw one through the garage window ( night time after he got home ). Few days later Dad reposts no deal. Salesman told him there was a line of people waiting to buy them. No negotiating of the price. When truck arrive there might be one or two, they never knew and it was up to the first in line to say yea or nay as to color etc. Take it or leave it. Dad couldn't deal like that. Ended up with Celica. At 42 marriage came to an end, and I headed to the use car lot, found my first love, Red, black leather 300ZX, t-tops and oh so sweet...Had that one for a while then the got the one with bar speedometer, digital dash. Then a 280 I wrecked. Miss them, like lost children...to old now to drop that low and get in.

  • @richardhale5910
    @richardhale5910 6 месяцев назад

    That sound of the 432 at the end makes me tear up. It’s so good. That’s what a car is supposed to sound like.

  • @kaloyanerusalimov
    @kaloyanerusalimov 2 года назад +7

    That 432 is so glorious! If I remember correctly, the engine has big pistons and a short stroke, making it “big” and rev happy. Simply incredible!

  • @dvsxavier
    @dvsxavier 2 года назад +8

    Even to this day, the Japanese holds the philosophy of taking the best from all over the world and making it her own. Great episode Jason, really enjoyed this one. Thank you.

  • @elbuchito2907
    @elbuchito2907 5 месяцев назад

    Had a 1971 240z that I bought from a friend back straight out of highschool. His friend helped him modify the exhaust and carburator. He swapped out those old Hitachi carbs and put in a four barrel Hollie with a modified intake manifold along with an exhaust that came out of an IROC. It was the best sounding 6 cylinder car I've ever heard. But this 432 might sound even better.

  • @richardowen4558
    @richardowen4558 Год назад

    In the early 1980's, I took a new job with an aerospace firm out in Santa Maria, CA. At the time I owned a 1972 Plymouth Duster340 with a floor mounted 3-speed. I was driving through town one day and this car started seating on my ass on a 4-lane. Traffic was a little heavy so there was nothing i could do. Finally I had to stop at a traffic light. The road went from 4 lanes to six. On green, I moved forward and shifted to the new outermost lane. I was rumbling along in third and watched that 240Z turbo start up alongside. I heard him hit the gas. I downshifted from third to second and floored it. I finally eased up after a half mile or so. At the Z came alongside, a gorgeous woman flashed a thumb up sign as the driver, who looked to be in his late fifties or early sixties trying to show off for his trophy date, rolled by slowly with a scowl on his face. He found out that there is no substitute for cubic inches.

  • @davidtucker3729
    @davidtucker3729 Год назад +4

    that 432 has a pretty exhaust note, almost as nice as some of the race tuned BMW I6 engines.. They rev like ripping paper. SWEET

  • @egidiotigris203
    @egidiotigris203 2 года назад +4

    The good old days Z wasn't cancelled 🤣
    By the way thank you reminding the Datsun name and logo genealogy.
    Brilliant episode as always.

  • @Cstoreri
    @Cstoreri 2 года назад +1

    Great video thanks! I enjoyed 5 of these , ranging from 71-78 loved them.

  • @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31
    @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 Год назад

    When these cars were first released to the public, Was starting my automotive collision repair career. It was my duty to install those little fiberglass flip tail spoilers and those front air dams painted to match ,everybody wanted that look. We actually had one of these cars come loose in a container ship shipped from Japan. The car bounced around in the container on its way over here to the USA and smashed every panel on that car, it was restored and resold as new at the Datsun dealership.

  • @dejoreljackson1787
    @dejoreljackson1787 2 года назад +18

    Love it! I hope you do all the Z’s! Especially the z31- the father of the modern Z.

    • @One_LuvZ
      @One_LuvZ 2 года назад +1

      people rag on the z31, but its a car that is done right is a looker. Currently own a Z32 and Z33

    • @liblib89
      @liblib89 2 года назад +4

      Modern Z's and even the FM cars in general, are more closely related to the Z32 Honestly.

    • @dejoreljackson1787
      @dejoreljackson1787 2 года назад

      @@liblib89 the z31 was the first V6 Z. And it was a major change. The first clean sheet redesign and the first push to go upmarket. Nissan historians (like me) peg the birth of the vg and the z31 as the start of the modern z

  • @CruiseControl1
    @CruiseControl1 2 года назад +4

    My first car was a 1979 280zx and my second car was a 1976 280z.
    Thank you for making this. I only wish the new Z weighed 800 pounds less. At least the new Z looks great.
    Although I would say the GR86 and BRZ are closer in terms of weight, power, and affordability with the original Z goal in mind. Not to mention they are more fun to drive than the new Z.

  • @notmuchfortalk
    @notmuchfortalk 2 года назад

    I owned a 1973 240Z for awhile. It was beaten. I drove it home without brakes or headlights. Still my favorite car ever. Would love to get another.

  • @2loudspeakers
    @2loudspeakers 2 года назад

    Keep these iconic history videos coming! Another epic video!

  • @Floridamarty
    @Floridamarty Год назад +3

    Possibly the best car ever built! When you consider the styling, the performance and what you got for your money, Nobody at any price built something better. I wish Nissan would once again offer a stripped down, performance, retro version of this car. I know I would buy it. I was lucky enough to drive a 260Z in high school back in '79, man I miss driving that car.

    • @Matt-kt9nm
      @Matt-kt9nm Год назад

      What color was it. I had a copper 260z

  • @r.j.bedore9884
    @r.j.bedore9884 2 года назад +7

    Thanks for this. I love the old Datsuns but never really looked into the history, so this was quite an enjoyable watch. Jason's German pronunciation was also quite impressive to my American ears.

    • @1nTime
      @1nTime 2 года назад +1

      I was confused when he pronounced that german sentence because it was almost perfect, im german and if he starts speaking german like this infront of me i would think hes german

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 2 года назад

      @@1nTime I think he lived there for a bit when he was younger, can't remember exactly

  • @Thisath100
    @Thisath100 2 года назад

    You guys are so creative. These videos are undoubtedly the best right now.

  • @renypayne11
    @renypayne11 2 года назад +2

    I had an orange 1:18 scale 432 as a child growing up and it was my favorite. It was cool to see my model car come to life in this video

  • @MoonfaceMartin88
    @MoonfaceMartin88 2 года назад +4

    Jason's German pronunciation is about as on-point as I've ever heard from a non-native speaker. That name is a mouthful for a German.

  • @jamesbroderick9106
    @jamesbroderick9106 Год назад +11

    I had a 280 2 + 2 with a 4-speed which is very rare. Actually the best damn car I ever owned. I lived in Iowa drove in the snow in it started every day 20 below it started

    • @CLP2102
      @CLP2102 Год назад

      i had one in Minnesota, damn if it wouldn't freeze shut, lol. i still love those cars

  • @cadmando18
    @cadmando18 2 года назад

    I just need a looping soundtrack of that engine going through revs for my ringtone, alarm and text notifications and I don't think I'd ever be in a bad mood.

  • @kevinbarrett9615
    @kevinbarrett9615 Год назад

    Always a treat , really love your channel , keep it going.

  • @richardledesma1675
    @richardledesma1675 2 года назад +5

    Jason Cammisa is an outstanding Journalist, I loved this episode and I love the ending with some pov and exterior audio with exhaust and engine noises !

  • @dejanventer5330
    @dejanventer5330 2 года назад +6

    Love your videos! 1969 Gtr next please!🙌

    • @Kiss__Kiss
      @Kiss__Kiss 2 года назад +1

      Black and White movies? Godzilla!!!!

    • @dejanventer5330
      @dejanventer5330 2 года назад +2

      @@Kiss__Kiss yesssss!

  • @RammYou2
    @RammYou2 Год назад

    my buddy Ron had this car in orange yes. i had a 77 Pontiac TA. one day we were canyon racing thru the Wichita Mountains and hit the twistiness. yes he had the corners over the bloated TA. we hit a creek bed doing maybe 95 mph and he dissected a Bambi deer that just disintegrated across the sharp nose of the 240z. we stopped and analyzed the slight damage and carried on. when it came to the hills the TA pulled away due to the anemic 400 V8's torque. the best drive was had by Ron with the 5 speed shifter he had in that wonderful car.

  • @breconkillip8767
    @breconkillip8767 Год назад +1

    Dear God that driving footage was the best thing I’ve seen/heard all year.

  • @theotherbrad5650
    @theotherbrad5650 2 года назад +3

    I'll say it again: I love you Cammisa. You're THE automotive journalist of our time. The energy you bring to these Hagerty presentations is tear-worthy. I hope they're paying you well.

    • @curbowman
      @curbowman 2 года назад

      I'd accept a modest salary just to be able to drive all those classics!

    • @mattjohnson8718
      @mattjohnson8718 2 года назад

      Umm...Jeremy Clarkson?

    • @theotherbrad5650
      @theotherbrad5650 2 года назад +1

      @@mattjohnson8718 Jeremy Clarkson peaked twenty years ago. Let Cammisa have this.

  • @meffycodrin1853
    @meffycodrin1853 2 года назад +4

    Love ya Jason, thank you Hagerty for making all this content for us to enjoy!

    • @Kiss__Kiss
      @Kiss__Kiss 2 года назад

      Amen!!!!!

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa 2 года назад +1

      You're very welcome, thank you for watching!

    • @meffycodrin1853
      @meffycodrin1853 2 года назад

      @@JasonCammisa 🙏 best car journalist at this point in time. Not an opinion, its FACTS

    • @meffycodrin1853
      @meffycodrin1853 2 года назад

      @@JasonCammisa also I cannot wait for the episode on the new Z

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa 2 года назад +1

      @@meffycodrin1853 Me neither - just saw the footage for the first time this morning. Gonna be gooooood!

  • @mkausch3738
    @mkausch3738 2 года назад

    Your research, writing, passion for the industry, editing and humor are always right on. Very great work. Keep it up.

  • @davidthomas4489
    @davidthomas4489 Год назад

    Back in Late '73 when coming home from my boarding high school, we saw a 240Z pass us on the freeway. I always told my dad how much I loved that car. He told me: "David, if you get straight A's in your freshman, sophomore and junior years, I will buy you a 240Z." I couldn't believe he said that but and to my dismay, I didn't get the grades, so he was off the hook. I had no car up until the last few months of my senior year, where he made a deal with one of my classmates who had to sell his 1966 Ford Thunderbird and dad paid $800 for it. So at least I had something to drive in my senior year for the last few months. The mini truck craze of the late 70's was alive and well and I sold the T'Bird and purchased a much needed work, '72 Ford Courier. I fixed it up to a degree and drove it for 3 years until after putting two engines in it, I was tired of fixing it, so I sold it to a family friend for $2800. I wanted my dream car from high school, and that was my next target after I had a little more cash to work with. I found this 1971 white Z in the Auto Trader, and bought it off of this pretty blonde for $3000. It needed some work, but I LOVED how it drove for a car in it's condition. it was easy to work on and broke down only once. Throughout the years I had owned it, I painted it, put rims on it, and a bunch of other things. In 1988, the engine was tired so I had a brand new 260Z crate engine from Japan put in it. I had a brand new 1988 Jeep Cherokee, so I didn't have to use that as a daily driver. In 1990, after being smitten by this beautiful girl who left me for someone else and hurt me immensely, I felt the need to do something for myself, so I traded it in for a brand new 1990 Mustang GT. The Z never made it to the auction because one of the Ford mechanics at the dealership bought it on the spot. There was some regret on that spur of the moment decision but since I had a lot of good years owning that car, my regret subsided. Owning my Mustang was good therapy for me in getting over that relationship because I joined a Mustang group and had a ton of fun putting all kinds of nifty things on it to make it go very fast. I loved caravanning to the car shows in it. As mentioned before, even though I had some regrets of getting rid of the Z, I'm happy that my dream of owning one came true and that's good enough for me!! :)