All About Soul Hackers 2

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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  • @puer4787
    @puer4787 2 года назад +56

    hearing about the dev history kinda makes me sad. they really wanted to create something original or something that stands out, something different from persona and SMT. they did try to appeal to the older fans somehow but also to general atlus fans. but looks like none of that landed. the reviewers pretty much all said something like: "decent game, but nothing special, doesn't stand out compared to persona and SMT". if this is the reception, the project clearly failed at being a "third pillar" for atlus, it didn't manage to stand out from the crowd. in my opinion, that shows that the current atlus staff has limited creativity. it is mind blowing that the atlus of old could go from something so serious like nocturne and DDS and go on to make something so light hearted and super goofy like raidou without even trying. i dont know, it seems like atlus has lost their magic touch when it comes to originality. sure, the games are competent, they have fun gameplay built upon years and years of experience with press-turn, they've got extremely stylish UIs and good music and whatever... but this spark of creativity that the atlus of, say, 2003-2013 had seems to be not there.
    many of the games they created back then didnt sell well initilaly, but they were so unique and interesting that thorugh word of mouth and reputation they grew a fanbase anyway. raidou reviewed even worse than SH2 did now but the game has so much style and suave people love it anyway. same with DDS.
    even a game like etrian odyssey. that game is like, the only non-megaten they have made other than maken x? an extremely low budget game, tiny dev team, super risky premise (making a wizardry style first person dungeon crawler in 2007) but the game ended up becoming a really successful series in its own right with many fans. a game that really stood out from the crowd with its hardcore gameplay and weird as hell storytelling. it was super mega janky, something we don't see from atlus now, but it was original.
    in my opinion they need to allow younger staff to take the reigns, people who have truly weird ideas, but who are also genuinely fans of the occult and mythology, who want to create something dark and weird and fantastical. atlus needs those people.
    edit: totally forgot about trauma center and catherine, but those games were really original too and i wonder if atlus can repeat that kind of thing today...

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +37

      I think they need to return to more artistic design, it seems that they are really fixated on what fans want and what they think would be well received.

  • @BuffMaister
    @BuffMaister 2 года назад +23

    Big ups for criticizing the game where it is deserved and not praising that this is okay.
    At least you mentioned most of the annoyances the game has that most reviewers are ignoring.
    it's been some hours that I listened to this, so I'm not sure if you actually mentioned this part during the review or if you thought about it while playing the game. You said that you have 200ish hours afterall.
    I know this is a review, and you wouldn't be too critical on what has been cut from the game, but what do you think about the whole opening scene that was also promoted in their very 1st release trailer when SH2 was announced?
    You know, the big hand thing (Old One) that never appeared in the game with Iron Mask standing here, full cutscenes of how all the party members died, seeing the villains standing next to each other, Ringo going into a emotional state on her knees as if something bad happened, like she lost all her party members, etc.
    I know it's common for companies to promote games like this by having story content that never makes an appearance in the game that is shown in the opening movie.
    Atlus is well known for doing this.
    When I saw those scenes, I was like, Okay...everyone is killed off and we're at the point where you kill Iron Mask and Figue goes into an emotional state by using Soul Hack on him.
    At this point, I expect Figue to turn against Ringo's team in some sort of way, uses Soul Hack on everyone that you have killed and the story plot would continue from there.
    Instead, it was all rushed and here are the credits moment. Also what's up with the ending choices and Moon/Sun keys? All it did was, you fight X amount of Dominions, based on your choices...talk about lackluster ending build up.
    Just curious if you actually thought about this part while playing the game as it was shown in the opening trailer.

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +8

      I take it all to be cut content, I'm excited for the book I'm hopeful it has info about it. The keys thing really feels like an ending requirement thing that ended up being cut.
      I actually just think the reveal stuff might've been stuff that just existed in earlier drafts since we already have confirmation Ringo wasn't initially the protag, that there was some changes made and that they had trouble figuring this one out

    • @BuffMaister
      @BuffMaister 2 года назад +7

      I see, it is a shame. I guess they are releasing a book about Soul Hackers 2 that could explain the cut parts of the game.

  • @KuroeDetectiveAgency
    @KuroeDetectiveAgency 2 года назад +41

    i'm going to watch this rn but i swear to god if you don't have at least 251 hours in this game i'm going to toss whatever opinion you have on this

    • @mathewhosier9739
      @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад +1

      I was able to stretch it to 90 hours with the dlc but I'm a completionist, I refuse to stop playing a game until everything is done or it's so frustrating it's not worth the headache, but this game is easy to 100%, well at least when compared to persona 5 royal

  • @artboy598
    @artboy598 Год назад +1

    I can appreciate they designed this as more of an entry point. It’s a pretty lean game and not too hard, so despite its problems, I think I could recommend to someone who might not wanna spend 70-100+ hours on other games right away. Hopefully they could iron out these problems moving forward. I’m glad I waited 4 months to play this because they fixed some issues such as Ringo’s movement speed.

  • @Estraneo
    @Estraneo 2 года назад +11

    Though I like your history videos most of all, hearing your opinions like this is also great!
    As for Soul Hackers 2, I pre-ordered it and intend to start playing tonight. Whether or not it's as good as I hoped it would be, I wanted to support the choices I did like such as having more adult protagonists and bringing back more titles than just SMT and Persona. If this marks the first baby steps towards feeling more comfortable taking risks on stories like Catherine and DDS again, I'll be happy. And, if things continue to not improve, well, at least I've still got my copy of Soul Hackers on 3DS.

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +5

      This is a really nice way to look at it, I hope you enjoy the game!

  • @smirk9697
    @smirk9697 2 года назад +16

    Finally a good review

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +7

      Damn so I should keep doing reviews? I'm pretty uncertain if it's worth doing haha

  • @oyoyoyo7624
    @oyoyoyo7624 2 года назад +7

    🚨CAP ALERT😂people really do pretend that their waifu’s are “thicc.” Either they don’t understand what the term means, or they’re delusional, some ‘The Emperor’s New Hoes’ type beat lmao🤷🏾‍♀️😜 Love that you mentioned this phenomena

  • @frosty6845
    @frosty6845 2 года назад +15

    I was skeptical as soon as I heard it was the people behind TMS working on this game, it's unfortunate I was right to be skeptical

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +13

      Not only that, the dlc story was outsourced and the writing was partially outsourced. A lot of the game is outsourced

    • @fallenose683
      @fallenose683 2 года назад +11

      @@Larrue so that's why it doesn't feels like an Atlus game. It feels more like one of those generic animes based on a shitty light novel...
      The whole "soul hacking" thing look as though the writers read the title of the original game and call it a day for the research.

  • @aquano1972
    @aquano1972 2 года назад +16

    I’m so disappointed by how this game turned out, but it was kind of given from when it was first announced. It sucks how Atlus has deteriorated in recent years. SMT V felt aimless and rushed, Apocalypse was grossly disrespectful to the rest of the series’ tone, Persona 5 and Royal was far too “safe” of a game, and all the remasters/ports are lazy and/or hurt the original game.
    I just want the old Atlus again. I want another SMT IV, DDS, and even something new. I just want good shit again

  • @alsaiduq4363
    @alsaiduq4363 2 года назад +41

    I cried when Ringo said "I'm the Soul Hacker that we made along the way"

    • @latel4544
      @latel4544 2 года назад +13

      "STAND BACK, I'M BEGINNING TO SOULHACK❗❗❗"

    • @neognosticism
      @neognosticism 2 года назад +7

      "are you the shin megami tensei"

    • @justbear9641
      @justbear9641 2 года назад +6

      @@latel4544 she do be soul hackin 😳😳😳😳

  • @juicedup14
    @juicedup14 2 года назад +9

    Feels like the more fans flock to the smt genre the more of the smt spirit fades

    • @nenjutsu1774
      @nenjutsu1774 2 года назад +6

      It's slowly becoming more "JRPG generic" yeah. If people enjoy everything that fall into that umbrella, that's fine but seeing the uniqueness and signature of a series fade away, kinda hurts.
      But oh well, so it goes.

    • @JNCGaming
      @JNCGaming 2 года назад +1

      @@nenjutsu1774 yeah I wonder why its like this

  • @toryficarola
    @toryficarola 2 года назад +5

    So this Megaten is essentially a B tier or a C tier. Good to know. I think I shall wait to get this one on discount next year.

  • @ToastieMcMuffin
    @ToastieMcMuffin 2 года назад +4

    the cynical part of me thinks that the creativity in both story and gameplay is restrained by the higher ups in Sega (which also kinda explains the day 1 DLC if you've seen the news what sega had been pulling with sonic origins and their nft stuff they might release for example)
    I also think that the transition from first person dungeon crawler to third person hasn't been done well due to the lack of gameplay complexity and sometimes visual design in the dungeons; some trap/damage tiles and maybe a few puzzles would've improved the dungeons a lot
    I personally still have a lot of fun so far with this game but I hope they get more creative freedom and take the criticism as feedback for their future titles

  • @NP-ip3nj
    @NP-ip3nj 2 года назад +6

    This is the kind of review I really wanted. A review not from a newbie's perspective but a review from a longtime fan's who would tell me if it was a good Megaten game. And as I suspected, it isn't.

  • @KhayJayArt
    @KhayJayArt 2 года назад +2

    The art for these megaten games is looking more and more like those generic looking fantasy/sci fi anime shows, especially the female characters. It could be me but I remember the designs and environments looking much more creative and inspired in previous games.

  • @obeysquirrel
    @obeysquirrel 2 года назад +8

    What a great review appreciate the 200 hours you put on this game for us 🙏 I’m still gonna give this game a try and form my own opinion

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +6

      This is what I like to see tbh, I believe that forming your own opinion through experience is the way to go! Let me know how you feel about it when you're done.

  •  Год назад +1

    32:33 it is said that only the first soul hack on arrow did any damage on her because of kuzonohas interference with arrows memories

  • @13lake12
    @13lake12 2 года назад +2

    No comments on demon negotiation ?? Huge switch up from previous SMT/Persona titles. The execution in SH2 makes the dungeons even less interesting, as random encounters can only result in combat with no option to negotiation with them :(

  • @4KGamingSMT
    @4KGamingSMT 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for such a great honest review

  • @bluegrave4376
    @bluegrave4376 2 года назад +5

    I'll wait until the game is like $20 bucks to play it. A lot of the complaints here don't matter to me besides hearing you say that you didn't die once at all and that the dungeon designs are so uninspired.

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +2

      I should have clarified, I beat it on each difficulty, not switching between the difficulties. Hard mode isn't very hard cuz of all the safety nets

    • @bluegrave4376
      @bluegrave4376 2 года назад +2

      @@Larrue yeah no worries, I assumed that since you put in around 200 hours on the game. Are there any difficulties above hard? Half the fun in megaten games is trying to figure out how to overcome a hard encounter so the game being this forgiving is sad.

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +2

      @@bluegrave4376 I'm not sure if there was more difficulty settings added after release, I think they added a very easy or something though

    • @CooperSummersVA
      @CooperSummersVA 2 года назад +6

      There’s a free dlc for very hard mode

    • @bluegrave4376
      @bluegrave4376 2 года назад +1

      @@CooperSummersVA ah ok, at least that's an option

  • @somagd64
    @somagd64 2 года назад +3

    Sounds like i wont enjoy this game form everything you said espically since it seems like the balance is bad and on top of that the animations are slow i might try it out when it gets cracked

  • @illuminoeye_gaming
    @illuminoeye_gaming 2 года назад +2

    also like on paper it seems so cool that they changed the battle system and theyre trying new things
    but then they play it safe literally everywhere else.

  • @alexproudfootchannel
    @alexproudfootchannel 2 года назад +3

    This was a great review. I like how you structured the video and your opinion was very honest and insightful. Your SMT V review was also the best review I watched for that game, I think a lot of people enjoy the videos and value your opinion on these games by virtue of how well you understand what it means to review a video game. If you were to make more reviews, I would definitely watch them.

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +3

      That's very nice of you to say, I think I will continue to write reviews, they are the most stressful content for me personally but if you enjoy them that much I think I'll continue doing them

  • @TheMidnightChannel
    @TheMidnightChannel 2 года назад +5

    Great vid like always!

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +1

      Ty kuro

  • @duelistdecoolest1893
    @duelistdecoolest1893 2 года назад +6

    Mayo is not a bad burger topping, but I'll keep watching.

  • @kurxse
    @kurxse 2 года назад +4

    Damn Another Banger🔥

  • @DVo-fe8ew
    @DVo-fe8ew 2 года назад +1

    Yea, I was planning to buy this when they first announced it- finally a sequel after so many years. Then the moment I heard it was made by the TMS team and seeing how generic looking it looked, unlike the first game, I was like yea nah. I like the artist but idk it just doesn't hit with this game. Doing day 1 dlc also made me stay away from it. Physical special edition being horribly oriced with no dlc to boot. No. Atlus has been declining a bit and it sucks to say this. The more they try to appeal for a broad audience the more it alienates its long time fans.

  • @ffxiikd1426
    @ffxiikd1426 2 года назад +6

    Larrue video :D

  • @tyronewilliams2638
    @tyronewilliams2638 Год назад +1

    Such a soulless game with nothing to say... I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years Atlus came out and said that this was the first SMT game made by AI
    Interesting video tho) keep up the good work

  • @ziggykid100
    @ziggykid100 2 года назад +5

    Turbo Granny looks lame. Not buying.

  • @emi2922
    @emi2922 2 года назад +1

    what do you think of soul hackers 1? im playing it currently, about 9 hours in, but i find myself stuck. the story doesnt interest me at all and the gameplay became repetitive for me. is it worth to keep playing?

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +1

      It's very short, about 20 hours so if you are invested in completing it for the sake of completing it, I'd say do it. Otherwise, I would just drop it. I don't believe in playing games I'm not having fun with tbh

  • @niilohjerppe4076
    @niilohjerppe4076 2 года назад +6

    Lesgoo larrue😘

  • @mathewhosier9739
    @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад

    I too made the mistake of choosing to prioritize graphics, the drop of FPS from 60 to 30 isn't worth the extra 360 pixels in graphics mode, it's 1800p 60 FPS in performance and 2160p 30 FPS in graphics, when I switched to performance it was almost playing a completely different game, it's a massive improvement, it runs so much smoother, it's such a drastic increase in performance, because most AAA PS5 games nowadays run in 2160p 60fps in graphics mode and performance modes are more commonly using a dynamic resolution at up to 120fps with high end TV's and monitors, so this game kind of caught me off guard, while japanese studios are catching up with their graphics engines, they are still a generation behind in terms of performance, while soul hackers 2 looks like a PS5 game, it runs more like a PS4 game

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +1

      I tried both.

  • @ThePolyesterPimp
    @ThePolyesterPimp 2 года назад +1

    The best part of Soul Hackers 2 is the ps5 splash screen

  • @carlim4548
    @carlim4548 2 года назад +3

    Larrue

  • @franciscobutte
    @franciscobutte 2 года назад +7

    I don't care what reviews say about this game. The first one was review bombed too and it's amazing.

    • @FentyMixx
      @FentyMixx 2 года назад +9

      It's funny seeing all the people look at reviews and pretend that 7/10 is a bad score.

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +11

      I think reviews are rather pointless tbh (mine included) outside of being interesting trivial information. I wanted to do a history of development for this game instead of a review but there wasn't enough content out there to do that.

    • @---oq5kb
      @---oq5kb 2 года назад +4

      @@FentyMixx rating things out of 10 should have never existed.
      I feel like steam rating system is pretty close to a perfect system, you either like the game or not. It's just missing the mixed option.

    • @Giselle_Bollinger
      @Giselle_Bollinger Год назад +1

      @@Larrue in what sense? Reviews like that of Matthewmatosis add so much to my understanding and appreciation of a game while widening my perspective. I would sorely miss them if they were gone.

    • @peronafanman
      @peronafanman 7 месяцев назад

      Ok so if you don't care about reviews then why are you watching this one?

  • @jacquespaught
    @jacquespaught Год назад

    Why does the screen keep flickering? I've tried every different resolution to see if it goes away but it keeps happening both on my phone and my laptop. This video is literally harmful to my eyes.

  • @KyngD469
    @KyngD469 2 года назад

    10/10 game when Wongo said it's Soul Hackin' Time!

  • @gabriel-vd5ul
    @gabriel-vd5ul 2 года назад +2

    good video mr larrue

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +2

      ty Gabriel

  • @mathewhosier9739
    @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад

    All you have to do is switch to prioritize performance and the frame rate doubles, that slow and sluggish feeling is only in the prioritize graphics mode

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +1

      That didn't fix it I tried both

  • @Raging
    @Raging 2 года назад

    Damn, the game is that bad?

  • @karamarakamarama
    @karamarakamarama 2 года назад

    Soul Hackers 2

  • @stomboyyuffie8511
    @stomboyyuffie8511 2 года назад +1

    People mention this being done by the TMS people is a bad thing? I thought TMS was well received among the megaten fanbase. Or do I misunderstand something?

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +2

      People think TMS was bad for a myriad of reasons: for not being a 'true crossover' (whatever that means), for being 'too anime', for a lot of reasons really.
      I don't think TMS is bad really but yeah I've seen people say that in reference to this game, instead of actually just judging the game on it's own merit.

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 2 года назад +1

      Because it's not as dark as SMT usually is. Core SMT fans dont want bright colors and magical girls. Why do you think they like the games like SMT III and IV and the classic stuff. It feels like youre in hell and making deals with devils. Not on a stage riding unicorns with a microphone in your hand haha.

  • @nigele8625
    @nigele8625 2 года назад +1

    Larrue el guarro (en mi mente sonaba bien)

  • @jellyface401
    @jellyface401 2 года назад

    Mediocre is not bad.

    • @Jolene007
      @Jolene007 2 года назад +6

      Mediocre is not worth $60 though

    • @jellyface401
      @jellyface401 2 года назад

      @@Jolene007 oh yes. Wait for a discount.

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 2 года назад +2

      Yeah but it is mid haha

  • @mathewhosier9739
    @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад

    All I ask of ppl is to try the game yourself and form your own opinion, and if your like me and you play RPGs more for gameplay and progression then I think your going to enjoy this one, I'm already almost done with my 2nd playthrough, I'm addicted and obsessed with the battle system, comp upgrades, equipment system, and the demon and skills systems, the demon summon and fusion system is hella fun to play with

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +4

      My audience knows to try things with an open mind, I am not a review channel, I'm a history channel.

    • @mathewhosier9739
      @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад

      @@Larrue while I do play the more popular RPGs, I'm also a massive fan of niche and hidden gems, there are hundreds of AA and indie RPGs that very few ppl know about but are still imo some of the best RPGs ever made

    • @mathewhosier9739
      @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад

      @@Larrue I am your audience, just because Im critical and don't agree with everything you say doesn't mean I'm not a part of your audience, I actually enjoy most of your videos

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +3

      @@mathewhosier9739 I didn't know you were based on the other comment you left
      "Well I'd hope you spend more than half the game in dungeons, considering that's where you know, you play the game, I swear you weebs need to start separating games from anime, go watch an anime if all you want is story, don't ruin the most important part of gaming, you know, the gameplay"
      Made me think you don't watch my content or just misunderstood the point I was making or both

    • @mathewhosier9739
      @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад +1

      @@Larrue so just because I hate weebs doesn't mean I can't enjoy RPGs and RUclips videos about RPGs, I just think there are far too many games based on or similar to anime, I just don't want my favorite genre watered down by games with bad gameplay because the developers focus too much on story because the weeb fan base wants video to be more like the horrible anime they watch

  • @304Blaise
    @304Blaise 2 года назад

    Soul hackers 2 > nocturne lol

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +2

      I'm glad you're enjoying soul hackers 2, like I said in the video I think a lot of people will consider it very good

    • @304Blaise
      @304Blaise 2 года назад

      @@Larrue I think everything you said in the video was pretty accurate man I just don’t like smt3 that much lol 👍

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +2

      Oh, yeah nocturne isn't for everyone

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 2 года назад +1

      Stop the cap

  • @mathewhosier9739
    @mathewhosier9739 2 года назад

    Well I'd hope you spend more than half the game in dungeons, considering that's where you know, you play the game, I swear you weebs need to start separating games from anime, go watch an anime if all you want is story, don't ruin the most important part of gaming, you know, the gameplay

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +3

      You didn't understand the point of that, I was saying the dungeon design made the game worse because the dungeons were barren, had only two dungeon elements and they all looked the same.
      The criticism wasn't "I hate dungeons" it was "I wish these dungeons were good and nice to look at".

  • @illuminoeye_gaming
    @illuminoeye_gaming 2 года назад

    the phrase youre looking for is "not for me"

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +3

      Since the review is my opinion, I figured that was a given

    • @illuminoeye_gaming
      @illuminoeye_gaming 2 года назад

      @@Larrue yeah just feel like saying "not for me" is a bit more eloquent than what you were saying at the end of the video where you were tryna say you didnt enjoy it but others would

  • @yourmum756
    @yourmum756 2 года назад +3

    Is the official pronunciation 'fig' or 'figu'? Most videos I see about the game pronounce it as 'fig', but it is pronounced figu in the Japanese trailers lol

    • @Larrue
      @Larrue  2 года назад +5

      figu is just how you pronounce the word fig in japanese, but in english it's fig

    • @shinyanakagawa8241
      @shinyanakagawa8241 2 года назад +1

      Japanese language doesn't end their pronunciation of words with consonants except for "n".