HOW TO BREAK IN TIRES || Tire prep methods explained
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Can you smell the tire burning goodness through your screen? 🤣
Is the arrow direction is the same rotate direction on car?
can you just buy a softer compound and have the same results without all of this?
Max Chung yes
No but I can see your lungs filling with acrid smoke . Get a mask ffs.
Hey" Iam new to your channel. I was wondering if you would show before and after tire prep. On the track. I feel it would be very interesting to see the results. Thanks if not I understand. Thanks for the video tips. God bless.
How I prep the wheels
Glue them
Screw them one
Done
Relatable
For a lasy basher like me:
Step one: buy your pre-mounted tyres
Step two: Do up the nut
Step three :
Bash and blow out the tire again
I am basher to been to a track a few times but unfortunately it closed but put gorilla tape in your tire to stop ballooning and clean tires with windex or simple green before glueing
Us gorilla glue seems to work better than ca glue minis the bubbling and it’s cheaper
Maybe tire prep method would give the rubber more elasticity an it might not brake under rapid expansion
Well done as always Ryan! Thanks for putting out great vids with methods that you like doing. I always enjoy seeing how others in the hobby like doing things in a particular manner.
Same! It's fun to watch how people setup their stuff!
See I have deep respect for you race guys. I'm a basher true to the heart. I've done some "races", but all the prep you guys and gals have to do is mind boggling. What some of yall call a worn tire, I see tons more fun involved. A worn tire for me is foam peaking out lol. As I said much respect.
Calyn G Same LoL
Ameature
You can find one of those sanding boards in your wife’s prep bag. I’m sure they cost way more with a cool name from a hobby store. Great vid. Grew up running RC10s in the 90s. Still have a few of them. The Futaba on you shelf was my first gun style. Started off with a stick radio.
I just want to thank you for posting these tutorial videos. I got my Xray 1/10 this Monday and since I have no experience previous, the videos gives me very useful pointers. Thanks!
Great video Ryan! Be aware though of all the chemicals you are dealing with. I would rather do these procedures on a well ventilated space, preferably outdoors. Thanks!
I made a similar comment. It was deleted.
I tend to just sauce my new tires multiple times in a ziplock bag overnight, till they are slightly more squishy or softer. I let my tires break in naturally on the car itself by running some laps at the track doesnt take long for your tires to form.
Thanks Ryan this helped a ton!! Gonna give 2wd buggy on clay a try for the first time.
My technique is i do Donut burnouts.
This is much better and fun
Absolutely......
Same
I remember why I got out of racing.. what happened to the fun. Run whatcha brung type racing
A race is a competition that's all. It's fun for some serious for others.
But if not for the serious people we'd still be running RadioShack cars
@@showmethedammovie one name (out of many others) that discredit that statement: rick superbash.
@Arduino Stein wow, yeah i do! man i always thought it was Superbash! mandela effect lol!
@@keaponlaffin6737 sorry not sure who or what that supposed to mean.
Emilio Bautista at least they’re not Kevin Talbot
I realize a lot of fast guys do this but why not setup your car with a touch softer springs or use a softer compound tire to start with? Cutting down your tread right out of the box means you just took 2-3 more weeks of racing off that tire. Just treating the tire to make the rubber softer should help a bunch, regardless of that 1mm of extra tread. I guess it also depends on the track surface. For loose dirt I can't imagine taking more tread off helps in 2wd.
Ryan your video rock. I purchased new tires and they were terrible without prep. I run on a clay track and could not get any momentum. Thanks for the help I will be doing this now.
I like to use sweet baby rays or kc masterpiece
In your experience, how does this equate to actual lap times?
Pretty much shave off 2-3 seconds
It’s a must on these high bite clay tracks. A prepped tire vs unprepared tire is the difference between driving in the winter and driving on a hot summer day
Seems like the tires should spin in the opposite direction of the arrows since you're effectively doing a burnout, you're actually scratching it in reverse.. Idk anything about this just my 2 cents. Cool vid!
I guess just trying mounting them in opposite rotation would be the test
Wow very cool I never would have known about this as a kid. But now that we have the internet as an adult knowledge is power. Thanks Ryan!..
I use a 3" x5" piece of 220 sand paper, lay the sand paper on a flat surface spray a tad of Simple Green on to the sand paper and then take the tire and hold the sand paper while slowly sanding the whole tire for 3-4 rotations. Then spray a microfiber towel with simple green then massaging the tire
In a pinch we use to use Simple Green for tire sauce, Paragon FX was my go to. Yeah I am old
I can't believe you go through all that. I'd like to see a lap time test like you did with the radios with the tires
As always, awesome content! Thanks
Edging… me and my racing buddys called that hooking, or a “hooked” tire…. We would do it on the road… run hard one way would make it grip good when you rotated em..
Great timing on the video, just mounted up a new set this morning
I used liquid wrench but used this same technique on my drag tires for my drag rc car and the car worked phenomenally compared to what it was by other methods some told me to try.
As a technical person, I appreciate this video (and others of yours). As someone just getting back into RC and about to *try* racing for the first time - holy shit - makes me realize my racing career will probably be limited to my zip code (and may not even make it out of my backyard). ;)
If you can find a dirt oval go kart track near you look for a parts trailer on race day. Then ask the guy running it for some winter green tire prep, or some aggressive tire softener with a bunch of bite. Do not call it sauce lol.
Any tips for breaking in the foam inserts after the tire is glued up?
I'm not doing my tire prep at the track. I do mine under the cloak of darkness...or out in my car at the track because that doesn't raise any concerns at all :~)
Conspiracy theory: Tire companies created this ritual and told the pros to do it because they knew we would copy them resulting in selling twice as many tires 😂.
i do love a good tire cooking on the grill, give me the ear to ear grin:)
I'm not understanding why this is necessary - would you not just run a tackier compound? Or is it to do with firmer rubber maintaining tyre shape and just having a grippier outer layer?
Wow this is so cool tho! 😄 I didn’t know the pros did all this! Ryan: How much time can a prepped tire gain vs a non-prepped tire on a lap? In car lengths?..
What are your thoughts on the poor-mans tire sause - WD40? 😛
Clay is so foreign to me. I run on an outdoor dirt track. Just slap the tires on and go! Blockades are my fave rn. Wish they made Gladiators for buggys. Those are great on loose tracks.
$35 for a paddle sander? No frickin way!
A free paint stick with sandpaper around it
@@pmm4177 or an automotive sanding block
Womens nail files..
I used a cheese cutter thing and put sand paper on it 😂🤣
Yep. Just go to the drugstore and buy a callous file.
Dear Ryan, congrats on your channel! It is really nice to see someone do something he really likes. I’m sure everybody enjoys watching your videos as much as me. I would like to ask one questing regarding the inserts of my B74.1. After going through some setup sheets to see what most people do in an astroturf situation, i came through some cases where people choose not to use inserts in the front wheels, so i decided next time to have two different pairs glued and ready to run, one with and one without inserts, just to see the difference. What is the theory behind this approach? Thank you for your time!
Hey pal.. I’m just getting into R/C racing & love your videos. Very interesting and knowledgeable.. Keep up the good work. By the way I have no idea how to rebuild a R/C car & it seems very difficult..
Manoli Patsaros it's not hard, it might be intimidating at first. So you won't misplace your screws, get a piece of cardboard or foam board. Try to draw/trace the chassis of the car. And put a dot where the screws go, then make on for the top chassis, a arms, shock tower. Etc. So when you take the rc apart, each screw you take out to put it into the board.
It not hard at all just pay attention and try not to wait to long in between taking it apart and putting it back together just so you don't forget how it goes! Your rc should have a diagram and that will tell you what goes ware ! The best way to learn is get a kit and build it yourself! Just about anyone who is in this hobby will help you that's the best part of rc !
Rookie question. Once you glue your wheels to the tires and you run your tires to the point there no good, do you toss the wheel and tire both or do you just peel the tire off and re use the wheels? I havent seen anyone really talk about this. Normally I just toss the whole thing because getting the glue and rubber off of the sidewall is a total chore.
Next video is: How to break-in your transmitter
That's easy you drop it on the ground 5 times
Very useful guide!! Thanks Ryan
Just guled up a bunch of tires for the drit lone start challenge tomorrow at thornhill tx
live motion rc if grip is high, no need for extra softness. Just scuff -sauce and go!
Ryan Harris i normally don't use tire sauce but if im racing 1/10 ill try to do tire prep
6.9k Ryan heck ya! 10k around the corner keep killing it bud!
Hoping to get there one day!
Cool Ryan, thanks. Would u need to do this on tires for dirt outdoor low grip, u know ones with lots of pins?
Nice timing is everything going to get my buggy dirty for the first time tomorrow !!
Be cool to see more compounds and tire thickness. Having a much thicker tire would give you the ability to actually cut the rubber to desired thickness.
Back in my race car days on dirt I had all sorts of tricks like cutting camber into the tires. The rc prep they sell ain't the best sauce you can get, my hint is the worse the chemical the better prep it makes. Application makes a huge difference too...amount, heat, prep inside and out, using clingwrap, using a torch etc etc.
The one thing I learned about racing is tires are 100% the single most important factor in achieving fast and consistent lap times. Spec tire classes are cool but open it up to a full open class.
great and informative video, thank you for taking the time to tell people your methods as a pro. and not to come off as bashing, but this video strangely reminded me of taekwondo: the matches between black belters was so much more intricate than people with blue or red belts... but, the matches between the latter ones looked so much more fun and exhillirating. well, to each their own. to each person their own way or level to find their fun and comfort in, because once feelings of DEFEAT and frustration come into play, the fun melts away like snow in the sun brother. you do look like you're still really enjoying what you're doing though, so keep that up man!
Ryan, thank you for the great videos. I’m still new to off road racing. Does this work on all tires on all track conditions? Just mounted hole shots on my 1/8 buggy. I pay too much to scrub some rubber off.
So what your saying, in this instance letting the smoke out is a good thing
lol
Very helpful, Ryan! Thank you for making this vid.
Thanks for watching!
Nice video, makes me sort of glad i run on carpet or astro, most of the time i can hardly be bothered to glue tyres nevermind all that prep!
It is a hastle, but I kinda enjoy it...
Need new tires almost every visit to carpet. Clay tires can last up to 4 -6 visits.
Great video! When you can't brake tire in thru practice!!😎! Keep it up!
Your videos are incredible. I've been out of the RC world for roughly 15 years and am now getting back into it with my son. Question regarding burning in prep, is it possible to do this method with mini pins? I'm running mini-pin tires on carpet and it seems like this method may be tough to use for that style of tread. Or maybe I don't need to burn prep in for carpet racing?
Thanks again!
Your arrows are different lengths. OMG my OCD is in overdrive 😉
The tire feels softer because its hot.. It will go back to normal after it cools down. Do a test of prepped vs unprepped tyres.
Nice video on how to do, but please explain more why to do it
GREAT VIDEO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW RC STUFF THANKS... DAVE
That’s I needed that for my new b6
Do you this with a new set before any race day? What's your frequency? Great videos
Is the arrow direction is the same rotate direction on car?
Great videos man.
Thankfully Companies like Raw Speed started offering slicks for clay which require little to no prep before you take it to the track. Get those and save yourself a lot of time and hassle.
Ryan, do you balance your tires? Do you feel like its needed? Great content btw! 😃
I drive around everyone on the wall after this. Spider buggy!
we ready,gotta try this
Let us know how it goes man!
@@RyanHarrisRC works amazing, great instructions, tires handle way better on Hobby Action Raceway, Az, thanks man
Perfect! I needed this!
What are the holes in the tires for ?
What type of track surface would you do this for? What 1/8 tires and compound would you use for a parking lot track setting? Thank you
Awesome video as always!
Thanks homie!
does tyre sauce go bad with time?
got a vintage bottle of LRP blue factor laying among my old rc stuff and thinking if it would work on my new xray xb2 when running it on astro?
Ryan do you recommend this process when running slicks as well? My local indoor clay track runs those.
What about new astro tyres? Pin style like mini darts, how do i break those in because when they're fresh they're waaaay too grippy and cause waaay too much steering
Can this be applied for carpet tires
Any ideas how to do this to a more knobby tire like traxxas truck tires? Seems like the scuffing would be harder than with these smooth tires. I just want to clean them and get all the compound off that they pick up from the track.
Just a question , the time you use to make 4 tires can you not just drive them on the track some laps to break them in ??? Must you use sauce . Ar the soft tires not soft enogh ?
How about outdoor tire prepping
Best coffee cup!
Makes zero sense to first use scotch brite if youre going to be sanding the tire in the end anyway, and at that point isnt all the compound dissipate? Great video by the way on all other aspects.
How often do you have to do this ??
What brand of coffee?
Looks like a lot of extra work, I'd rather just run a fresh pack through it on the track to break them in
Definitely not for the general crowd which I’m sure sponsors are not targeting…but maybe, if they want more people into the sport/hobby, change direction/flow/etc. of the video. Consider the broad buying base.
Let's say your getting 5 or 6 full rounds of practice. Would you skip some of this process and let them break in naturally to preserve the tread?
oPAULo711 you could definitely do that! Mostly user preference here 👍
How long does it last before you have to do it again? Like you prepped them, race delayed, now you have to wait, etc.
Will this work on tire styles like proline pin points or is this for tires like these or electron, dirt webs etc..
Fantastic vid my freind 😁😊😁😊
Killing it man!🙌👌
so i see a reply to all the great job comments but the ones asking questions get no response at all? even some deleted? so real question what type of lap time difference does this give you? also with all the different types of rubber compounds avail why has joncepts not made a rubber with the feel you want right of the box? seems like quite a bit of work but am curious to the results?
This for dirt?
So you do this with new tires, do you just add the sauce and burn it in after they are broke in for each run? Do you break in the foams?
Thanks
I had no idea there was so much prep for off road tires.
Can we do this on tire that never receive this process ? I have a pair of Proline Electron clay (4 runs on a inside track ) for my SC that I would like to try
Can you do this the night before or does in have to be done 10 minutes before getting on the track.
Do u have a vid on gluing up tires?
Does tire sauce make a difference in 1/8th scale buggy on off road dirt or clay tracks? I usually just clean my tires off with water and simple green but if there is something to help the dirt not stick to them as much that would be great.
Not sure about keeping dirt off... it's more about grip than anything!
If your on a clay track or a hard packed track whit no dust tire sauce will work but a dusty or a loose track iy will do the opposite
Do you not have any concerns about the long term health impacts from inhaling these solvents?
trailgumby nah all the crazy stuff i do this is the least of my worries
I'm starting to love your videos Ryan. Very direct and informative, yet on more of a personal level vs a professional one. Great job! My question is, I run a 2wd backslashed slash on a well kept, loamy outdoor track. I typically run more of a pin style tire, ex. Diamond backs on the fresh track to badlands if there's a lot of people and its torn up a bit. Now I normally just clean my tires every so often with simple green and that's it. Is this prosses something I should try or is it even doable on a more pin style tire or is it worth it at all at the outdoor track?
PS My grandmother was a Harris too, also named my son Ryan.. Odd lol
Will all of your technique work on short course truck traxxas slash 2wd for dirt oval?
I want that coffee mug. Where did you get it?
Awesome Video!👌
Ben! Thanks for checkin in homie. See ya soon!
Personally, I clean them with simple green, let them dry, rub them with bick 4 (if it's good for boots, it's good for tires), let it sit in a plastic bag for 24 hours, clean them with dawn dish soap and a very light stream of water, let them dry really good, take a towel and squeeze excess water out if you have to. Spray them with Lucas oil slick mist, let them dry. Grind them down until they aren't shiny anymore with a sand sponge from Dollar tree or whatever until they don't have a gloss on them. Then take a body reamer and poke small holes in them at each quarter of the middle.
Do that every 10 races (as long as the tires last.)
Ryan, where did you get that coffee mug?
Is tire prep important??
I've recently got into RC, I have a ECX Roost 1/18 and I have no means to enter any races or anything like that. It's simply a new hobby, I've made some tweaks to my RC already, but I lack knowledge to the RC world.
no bro, save ur tires. this is only for the racing fanatics at heart