MID HANDICAP GOLFERS PERFECT IRONS? - Cobra One Length Irons
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- MID HANDICAP GOLFERS PERFECT IRONS? - Cobra One Length Irons. Its no secret that mid handicap golfer are all looking for similar things. Long Drives, Good Iron shots and low scores. along with enjoyment. are these irons the perfect clubs for mid handicap golfers? will they help you reduce your handicap and enjoy golf more? maybe they will help you hit more greens and hit better iron shots? maybe it will improve your long iron game? what golf clubs should mid handicap players use? what are the best golf clubs for beginners? could it be these? Lets find out... and lets do it now!
I'm currently trying a full set of these irons.
The thing I find is that the swing for the longer clubs (out to 4 iron) is the same as for the short irons. They fiddle with loft and face construction to make up the difference in length for the long irons.
The 4 iron is as easy to hit as the pitching wedge.
I like 'em.
I am 74 years of age and typically shoot in the high 80's. These are the best irons I have ever used. I used to struggle with not chunking my irons, these clubs for some reason eliminated that problem for me.
I've been playing single length irons for a season now and I love them.
Aha. You are the man who bought them.
Which one length irons do you use
How do you hit a wedge say 85 yards with the one length? Interesting idea but not for me. Enjoy and play well.
What sort of set up / action do you use got say a 50 yard pitch shot?
Would love Mark to do a long term test of the one length irons because I think he would get more consistent yardage over say three months use
Yes there Must be an on course test.
I bought the F7 One Length Irons last year and love them. It was hard getting used to the "lower clubs" 9 iron - GW, but easy to get used to the "Longer Irons". These are great for your shorter golfers as well. I am only 5'6", so when I owned the Standard length Irons I was not confident with anything past a 7 iron. These clubs changed that for me! I honestly believe the one length clubs are for everyone. Maybe for the better players buying the forged set would be a better choice, but the whole concept behind the one length i believe is great for golf. 1 setup no matter what club really makes the game easier to play which I believe is something we all can appreciate!
Are you still playing your one length's and are you used to the wedges now?
Morning James I’ve got these irons played last season with them really love them I was playing off 24 and now playing off 16 so great clubs
I had the F7 One Lengths all last season. Great clubs and easy to use and play. However, having used Game Golf with them I found exactly what this short test has shown. My distance variables with all the irons were massive. Front to back dispersion was easily 3 clubs worth. Have switched to Mizuno 919 Forged for this coming season - partly down to you James!!
James, Greg Norman was on TV recently and said if he was starting to play from a beginner again he would use the One Length. I also get the idea behind the concept. I still think you need to be fitted like all other clubs.
Have you not considered doing a review with a High Handicap player?
As Mark is getting better every time I watch, maybe a high handicap player from your club, I haven’t seen anyone doing it, could be a complete novice or one that just needs that little bit more help to break the 100+, or 90.
Just a thought James? 👍🏌️♂️
Given the average of golfers at most clubs - maybe grabbing one of the seniors for club testing would be a good idea.
I would love to see you and mark versus Liam and old man pat!! That would be a great match. Play alternating shots for 9 holes.
Yes Golf course definitely
I play pinhawk one length and love them. It takes time to get use to them and trust them. Especially with the high end and the low end, you have to trust that they will do what are made to do. I liked the pinhawk irons better than the cobras because of the lofts are not as strong.
With the jacked lofts on these clubs, those who struggle with the 5/6 irons (that are really 4/5 irons), might be better stopping at 6 and swapping out for hybrids.
They even do one length if you were really bought in to the concept.
People need to start thinking of lofts rather than just stamped numbers.
Without a higher club head speed, some might struggle to get the launch required for one length long irons - hell, even Peter Finch does!!
Except that in my normal set of irons I can't hit my 5 iron well and yet with a demo day of this 5 iron I could hit it well. It's more how you hit it rather than lofts I can't get my 5 iron more than 165 to 170 and spray it a bit despite being a 6 hdcp. But the cobra went 180 and I found it descended sharply so despite low spin it landed rather soft. I'm considering a set
sharkhark I’m pleased it works for you - I was very tempted by one length myself before getting my P760’s, but I’m afraid it is just all about loft.
Even the new breed of hollow headed clubs go the same distance with equal loft, they just get there with different trajectory (and consistency).
My point was that if you can’t get the desired launch from the lower lofted irons (regardless of the number it’s stamped with), then hybrids are an option.
Merry Christmas
@@3dr1ch I agree with you Ed. Low loft and lower swing speed meant that my SL irons 5,6 ( read 4&5 in truer loft terms) were getting inconsistent gapping. On a good strike I got great distances with the 5 iron at 22.5 degree, but I found it varied too much. Yes I was better hitting that SL 5 iron than I was with a conventional long iron at 22 degrees, but still inconsistent. I moved to Hybrids for the 160 m shot ( used to b the 5 iron) but again be aware that the SL hybrids don't carry as far as the conventional shaft length hybrids. I use a 19 Cobra F9 ( not a 22) to get the 160 m distance, and you need to hit them further back in your stance to make them fly higher ( one ball back from centre). I replaced the 6 iron with an old Cobra F7 hybrid ( 25 degree) for a 145 m shot.
I think a mixed set is the answer. 4-7 one length. 8-PW variable.
I found that all my yardages were more consistent with one length. As I strike the middle of the face more often. I think your test is a little unfair as the player needs more swings to become accustomed to hitting 7 irons. People still move ball position based on the loft, I believe this should be left at 7 iron always, unless your trying a speciality shot. I'm 8hcp.
Are you making any adjustments for half shots say 50 to 70 yards. These wedges are taking some time for me to get used to.
I think a fair test would of been he was handed the club and told to hit without looking at what club he was given. He said himself because it was. 5 iron he was trying to hit it differently
My strokes due to Mis-hits have all but disappeared given ball position consistency. Shave 10-12 strokes per round. My distances are more reliable also which means far fewer short/long approach or par 3 tee shots. I have noticed less spin on my 5/6 irons as they roll further so I usually play the run on the longer approach shots and will take a little off my swing if the distance is on the shorter end of my 5/6 iron distance to account for lower spin and less stoppage (term?) on my shot. I also noticed I can much more consistently play a controlled draw whereas prior it was a guess as to whether I would go straight or draw when trying g to draw the ball.
@@PaulGPhotography I still used specific lofted specialty wedges 52*, 56*, 60* albeit they’re cobra one lengths which don’t come in the standard set for these awkward length shots. Ideally I’ll plan my hole to avoid these distances and like to leave myself my gap or pitching wedge 110, 90 yds respectively for my approach.
I have the F8 one length clubs with a modification. During my fitting we changed the club's to a three-length set. My 6, 7, and 8 irons play at the 7-iron length. My 4 and 5 irons play 1/2 inch longer at an 6-iron length. This helps generate little more clubhead speed which produces a higher ball flight and a better distance to fit in my gapping. My 9, PW, and Gap play a half inch shorter at an 8-iron length. This helped to keep the ball from going to high which has given me better control. I play the 7-iron at 175 yards and have a 10-yard gap between all my irons and PW. Playing my clubs like this has helped my game tremendously. I only have to make a minor set-up adjustment between the different length clubs. I also play a standard SW and 60 degree. The only change I would make is to probably go to a standard length gap wedge. I think these clubs can work for all swing speeds (my driver speed is 105mph) and makes the game a little easier. I played in the low to mid 80's this year which is my 2nd year playing.
Hows it going with this setup? I was hesitant until I saw the way you do the 3 lengths and now I am very interested
I think many golfers could benefit from a finely tuned one length long iron set for that 7 or 8 through wedges might be better with your standard lengths
I think you need to look at club head speed for the 3 clubs. The club head speed for the 5i was lower than for the 7i and at times lower than for the wedge. To me that indicates that Mark was not confident with the 5i and was trying a "controlled" swing (it rarely works for me either!). At first blush these are not "hot" irons - ball speed for Mark's swing speed was fine but not exceptional, although that will depend heavily on strike.
Then there is the spin rate issue. I have severe doubts about the ability of these clubs to stop a ball on the green with a 7i. Should be fine in the winter with soft greens when height plus descent angle will do that job, but as the greens firm up during late Spring & Summer I just cannot see the ball stopping quickly - even worse would be on a links course in a hot, dry summer.
These will work for many people but I think there are better irons out there for a Mid HC - JPX919 Hot Metal or Forged, AP3, i500, Rogue, M3 being the obvious ones.
The Cobra lofts are super strong. I have a single length set with 36.25 inches in length where the Cobras are 37.5. My 9 iron is 44 degrees and PW is 48. 5 iron is 28 degrees. The shorter length and higher lofts make my results for distance much less than you show, but consistency is very good.
I just ordered these.. I hit consistently with my standard irons but faulted 5iron up due to length.. I think these will help and think the spin rates will be determined by each person's swing.
Wow, that 7 iron loft is somewhere between my 6 and my 5 iron... No surprise that the 5 gives inconsistent results and low spin... it's probably a 2-3 iron in disguise and the length of the shaft does not change that with such lofts getting the ball airborne and spinning requires both speed and well centred strikes.
Recently fitted for new clubs, tried the one length, hit them well, but they didn't have them available in a forged in my part of the world until the F9s come out and I had already sold my old clubs so settled for a set of Srixon Z785. There is also the psychology of having played 'regular' irons for years and the initial first use of 'One Length Irons' may be a consideration to think about...
The think the 'psychology' of regular irons against 'one length' is a possibility....
I would like to see a mid handicapper on course. With one length irons.
I often thought that perhaps a better concept would be one length in 5,6,7 and standard length in 8,9,pw
I use a dual length set. 8-LW @ "36.5 and 2-7 @ "38. Works well. Less of the issues of too high of a flight on the higher lofts and less of an issue of declining decent angle with the long irons. Fewer lengths of clubs to practice too; Driver, 3 wood, long irons, short irons and putter.
I love my F9s from 7 iron down,,found i was hitting my 6 iron the same distance as the 5 hibrid,,,so ive taken the 6 iron out and kept the 5 hibrid as a 6 iron,Then added a 4 and 5 standard length hibrid to the set,,,works for me,,,also love the wedges PW GW and SW,,they have a nice feel,
Playing off 10 and gaming F7 One Length irons GW, PW, 9, 8 , 7 and liking them. Not liking the 6 and 5, mainly because of lack of height. Complemented my set with 7, 5 and 4 hybrid which I hit quite well. Very few people with this combo in the bag, I have noticed. But it works for me.
The critics of these one length sets are missing a critical point in their reviews: the real consistency comes after using the same length club over a bit of time. Most golfers struggle in finding the correct address position. In a traditional set, golfers have to manipulate different club lengths, swing lengths and ball positions. When a golfer is extremely comfortable in their address, the success rate of the swing -shot increases. Btw, it certainly wouldn’t cost much to make ur current set one length. Have the longer clubs cut and re-gripped. Have a couple clubs plugged at the end and gripped. This would leave u with the costlier proposition of a reshaft in only 1-3 clubs, depending on whether u want to lengthen the pw. I will probably keep the pw the same length.
Not something you can just pick up and put in the bag, I've been playing them for a few months now and the gapping is spot on, consistency in length with the longer irons is so much better for me (mid handicapper) and with Arccos I know my distances to a yard. I love the short irons just have to be careful with more spin in the wedges than traditional length, my spin number for 7iron is very healthy and only 500rpm down from my Ping S55 6 iron (closest loft)
i dont understand why know is talking about bobby jones.... way back when he played he played with same length irons... to expect something different the very first time you hit them after you have played is foolish... you need to go to the range and hit them for at least 5 or 6 or more months to get the feel.....bobby playing same length clubs won the grand slam... all in the same year and NO ONE has ever done that but him....... i will say maybe you should use your standard length clubs up to your 9 iron then start with the 8 iron on down use the same length clubs.... just a thought.....
I've been playing one length for two seasons now, 5i down to lob wedge F7's. I wasn't impressed when I tried them on the monitor, but I decided to get them anyway and play them full time. They took some getting used to, but now I have no desire to go back to regular irons. I managed to drop my average score by nearly 5 strokes. I can't say that I can attribute all that to just the clubs because I have also improved my short game . I can say, however, that the clubs have given me some much needed consistency, and I hit a lot more greens. To be fair, it wasn't a straight forward improvement, there is a bit of a learning curve with them.
Just got those today love them
Yes definitely would love to see Mark on the course playing one length irons and you James too.
I think the biggest change in going from standard to one length is the mental adjustment. If you setup to a one length 5 iron like a standard length five iron you will struggle to hit your 5 iron consistently. Once you get to the point of having a single setup that issue will go away.
The other thing to be mindful of is swing speed. If your swing speed is slower, your ability to hit longer irons will be affected and you may want to look at a hybrid option. If I lose anymore club head speed I will need to trade my 5 iron for a 5 hybrid.
One length irons aren't for everyone, but I would say players of all skills from beginner to scratch can play them. I think better players are more suited to the King Forged instead of the F7 or F8, tho.
Friends that are using one length said they needed a few range sessions to get used to them. Biggest issue was wrapping their brain around the esthetic’s.
I built a set of one length irons probably 20 years ago. In fact I still use most of them. The issue I had was in the lie angle of the clubs as the length increased or decreased. The wedges up to 8 iron tended to be more toe up, and the 3,4, were a little toe down, while the 5, 6,7, were all pretty normal. If the lie angles were adjusted to the length of each club...it would have been a great idea. As far as distance....I don't know that it really made much difference in the 6 thru wedges. The 3,4, and 5, didn't go as far because of the shorter shafts. The, rest I could always choke down on the shaft to control distance better. I ended up changing the lie angle of some of them to stop me from hitting them left all the time.
What I should have done was from the 3 thru 5 ... make them the same length, and the 6,7, and 8 shorter, but the same. then the 9, wedge, lob wedge, and sand wedge shorter but the same length I think that would have been better.
I have the F7 One Lengths. The only issue i found with standing at a mid iron stance was that the longer irons (4,5) flew on a much lower trajectory in comparison to a standard length. Similarly on the shorter irons, they tended to fly higher than what i would get from a standard length. Plus i have to agree with the inconsistency in distance from shot to shot, but that could be pilot error. On course they didn't hold greens as much as I'd like. I've since went to a standard length set, but kept my One-lengths...just in case....
To be fair 5 shots with each club with the one length concept isn't enough to base a good opinion on. I think it's a great concept for the golfer who is new to the game or is really struggling with their game. A good or established golfer will always doubt something so radical.
Couldn’t agree more 👍🏼⛳️
Have you seen or tried the one length hybrids? Would be interesting to see if guys of your calibre get the same length but with extra height.
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Hey James, maybe fit Mark for shafts that are best for his swing and weaken the loft a bit on 5 iron and see if his numbers and ball dispersion gets better, I bet with some practice he will hit the single length irons better than his standard clubs, can't wait to see your numbers with single length irons that are fitted for you, if you really want to test single length irons, you should test cobra versus Sterling single lengths, you might be shocked by the outcome , I would put money on that video be one of your highest viewed, keep up the great work, mark has been a great asset for your videos ,its nice to see a non pro testing, have a great Christmas guys
On course testing please.
I love the concept of SL Irons, but when I tried the Cobra's I must admit I struggled with them (the Ball flights seemed to be all over the place). However I have a friend who uses the Wishon Sterling SL Irons and he is Uba consistent with them.
Rather than just playing around with Lofts the Wishon Irons have different face designs to get the Gapping more consistent.
He also advises that not to try to "Over" hit the 5 Iron, just swing easy and let the club do what it is designed to do.
I played my first round yesterday there so easy to hit , I've changed my stance ,posture, and swing , I did really well with all the changers I made just yesterday , I'll be continue using S/l irion there staying in the bag ,I'm only hitting my 6irion 130meters compared to my conventional 6irion that I hit 155meters but it's the first time I used Sl irions
James is Mark related to Rick Shiels 🤣
Sure hits a ball like him
I thought that was Rick Shiels at first.
I bought a set and it took weeks to actually get used to get used to hitting a pitching wedge or 4 iron like a 7 iron. Would love to see him just handed random clubs and see if he could ignore the face and just swing, so he’s not trying to instinctively hit steep into a wedge or adjust for a longer iron.
The gapping isn't too much of an issue imo, and that's b/c with a regular set I struggle to hit a 4/5 iron with any consistency anyways. So the fact that I can swing one lengths and get even a few more yards with a lot more consistency is a big win for me personally. I get a bit more than what he saw but again, anything is good b/c the point is they're easier to hit than a traditional 5 iron.
one other thing is these are off the rack. what if you took him through the fitting to get the gapping? shaft can help that spin
Krisi Boren Yes I agree 👍
Great video but I think if he played all the shot like the 7iron shot they might have been more consistent. Because he said because it was a 5 iron he played it different then when he played the 7
You're gonna have to give him a club and just have him swing without knowing what club it is. Knowing changes your mind about the speed and setup.
I thought he was going to do that in the beginning!!!🐊🏌️♂️🇺🇸
I’ve made the same point on other reviews. Your tester had an average Clubhead speed of about 85 mph.
The average male golfer swings his 7 iron at 75 mph so he would swing his SL 5 iron at 75 mph.
That 5 iron (22o loft) swung at 75 mph would not launch.
Cobra make SL for ladies who swing slower than males .The lowest iron in that set is a 7 iron.
Your tester has more than average CHS but even he couldn’t launch the 5 iron satisfactorily
For the more average golfer he would not get anything lower than a 7 iron off the ground.
I'm almost 70, with the physical history that goes with the age. My swing speed on these clubs is about 75MPH. I'm not getting the distance that James' mid-handicap tester was getting, but I have no problem launching every club from SW to 4I. You have to deprogram from graduated length clubs to get a consistent swing through the entire range. And the performance of these clubs is significantly better from 6I and up.
Boyd Grandy . As someone of a similar age I sympathise with your age issues. However you may be selling your self short on club speed.
A pro on you tube tests clubs at lesser speeds. One if his tests was with a ping 700 ( 7 iron 29.5o loft).
He swung it at 75 mph and got 136 yards carry peak height of 26 yards. If he was to swing a 4 iron (22 loft) at the same speed he
Would have a lower peak height and very poor carry. A good club fitter will tell you if you cannot swing a five iron in excess of
80 mph you should not carry one you need a 5H. If you are launching a 4 iron well with good carry you are swing it faster
Than 75 mph.
@@ulster7717 Maybe you should think in terms of the club designation in the M8 SL irons being an analog of the standard length club set.
To get more bang for a similar swing speed, the single length iron faces are made with lower lofts and, as they get into longer clubs, the face reaction tends to get higher.
So, for me, a 75 mph swing on a 4 iron in this set gets me 185-195 yards, with 10-15 yard of that being rollout. An 8 iron is 145 to 150, a 6 iron is 160-170 and so on.
Anyway, I'm pleased with the results, especially dispersion as they go up the set.
Boyd Grandy . I am delighted with your results. But if you are swinging at 75mph you can not hit those distances with any club.
I just witnessed a pro test a 7 iron swung at 75mph . He got a carry of 136 yards.. You are hitting the ball LPGA distances
and they are not swinging their clubs at 75 mph. If you are hitting the distances you claim you CANNOT be swinging at that speed.
I have made clubs for years as a hobby so I understand what you can do with weight and COG. That’s why hybrids work better with
slower swings. Congratulations on your results but you need to get a trackman test to prove what speed you are actually swinging at
and what CARRY you are getting.
@@ulster7717 I am 66 and on my third set of SL irons. I have found that while I can get good length with Cobra SL 5 iron, the likelihood of me doing it consistently was low. Arccos told me I hit the 5,6,7 iron much the same distance during play. I swapped to a higher lofted SL set and replaced the SL irons below 26 degrees with hybrids.
Really interesting would like to see the players version with some more loft they might flight and spin better
You address the reduced spin issue by putting in weaker tipped shafts. They will both increase trajectory and ball spin.
The main reason people use one length irons is because they usually struggle with the long irons, so what do you think of a set that replaces the 3-7 with one length irons and leaves the 8-PW as standard length irons?
I have Cobra one length irons and the lofts on my clubs are not as strong as the ones you tested. My set was 6-PW and I added a Cobra Gap with same length as my set. My home course has no bunkers so I did not change my sand wedge which was 36” versus the 37.5 “ shafts on the one length.
I would have to see them on the course. Golf is so much a game of feel. I believe I would be not sure of distances.
Hi James, It would be very interesting to see a high handicap player test any golf clubs,and hear their comments.results.Now that would interesting.cheers
These to me are always good for a new golfer who might not be able to take lessons. they only need to learn 'one' club
This is a really interesting concept as I personally hate using anything longer than my 7 because I can't hit them but do like every thing shorter than a 7. I would be keen to try it out. Then if it was comfy would consider cutting my irons to length. In a fitting could you not just request a 7 iron shaft length in your long irons how does it work never been fitted so wouldn't know.....yet 😂😂
These are still my irons and I love them. But I want the F9 irons now. Even over the rad speed
I don’t mind the idea of one length... I hate hitting a full wedge (52 and up) so would be interested in a gap and higher in a matching to iron set head and longer shaft... currently play with original Nike vr (the ones slightly more
Forgiving then the blades) and they have very traditional lofts with a 47 deg pitching wedge hence the 52 56 60 wedge line up
I like the idea of one length iron but those spin rates scare me, I would definitely love to see Mark do an on course test
I think the spin rates are as much due to the strong lofts as the one length. The Cobra Forged one length are higher spinning than the F7-F8 because their lofts aren't so strong.
The fluctuation in numbers is in your head cause you’re too worried about the length of the club. so the Inconsistency comes from your swing. Just trust your swing don’t worry about it people are over complicating one length irons. Lineup hit the ball🤷🏻♂️
Hi James and Mark a question comes to mind ....how much long term damage will they do to a high handicapper or any handicap to be honest when you revert back to clubs with a standard set of different length shafts , surely your stance and ball position will have to change to accommodate the extra length of the shafts. What do you gents think?
I'm waiting on the new release F9's in January to give the one lengths a try. I would love to see an on course match James vs. Mark using these clubs.
I see there’s no industry standards on loft and golf clubs could be any loft so I’m not sure how they get the number for a sudden club a 7-iron‘s loft could be 5 to 7° difference, this can be a little confusing🤪🏌🏼
Good test with an out come similar to other tests, low spin, longer wedge length hard to grasp. The lofts when compared to other game improvement irons are similar. Will you be testing the Cobra connect devices in the future?
Thing is Hit 5 shots with a 5 iron and pw of 7 iron length isn’t going to be consistent after 5 shots but if you use the same length over time and addressing one length will create less swing thoughts and more consistency reviews like this aren’t a fair test of what they are like. If he used them for 6 weeks 3 times a week I bet those massive variations of dispersion would come down massively and create a consistent strike
Good test chaps
But you've given me a real problem now!
Been seriously thinking of going one length.
My usual club fitter recommends clubs 4 to7 one length then standard down. You've kinda said the same so now I am thinking why bother at all.
I do use the Cobra f8 one length hybrids 3 and 4 (love them) so probably would only need 5 to 7 irons. What would be the point as actually I would only be replacing the 5 and 6
Help ! going one length mental
While the one length concept is to make as many of your clubs as possible the same length, I don see any reason why you should use a hybrid set of one length and standard length of that works for you. The only thing you would need to be mindful of is gapping, but if it works for you I say go for it
@@chrishawkinson8846 thanls for the advice but I am not looking for more hybrids. I am looking at iron replacements.
@@davidleigh2573 I think you misunderstood, or maybe I did. You can buy individual clubs and have a mixed set. There wouldn't be anything wrong with a set which comprises some one length hybrids (that you already have) plus one length mid irons and standard length short irons and wedges. I know that goes a bit against the grain of the one length concept, but going strictly one length isn't for everyone and shouldn't be discounted if it works for you. I actually think that may work really well for good ball strikers looking for more consistency with the longer clubs in their bag.
@@chrishawkinson8846 Thanks Chris,maybe a case of six of one and half a dozen etc.
Yes you're correct in what your saying about a mixed set.
What I was saying was that I would only need to change two irons the
5 and 6 to one length the rest of my current set could stay.
My point is that I am not sure that it's worth doing.
Definitely would love to see a course review
Test the F8 SL on the course and give him a month to adjust. Then the test might be worthwhile. I am looking forward to the F9 version of SL irons due out soon. Usually the third model of anything is pretty good. Get the feedback of a high handicapper ( 20+) that has been using SL concept for a while.
Reply to self: I traded my F7 SL for F9 SL for 12 months. Better, but still not ideal for my swing speed ( 75-78 mph with irons) and hitting style. I am a "picker" and take shallow divots. The wider hybrid like soles on the F9 suit soft conditions and a steep attack angle.
At age 66 I have found a better SL club for me. See www.milfordgolf.com.au My current set is 6 iron to GW, plus I have their LW for summer ( 60/04 bounce) . I replaced the Cobra F9 5 &6 irons with a SL 19, 22 , 25 hybrids . Much better! Graphite shafts now and love them.
Hey James I don’t understand all length clubs wouldn’t that hurt you when you got to the 6,5,4 because the length are shorter, and you may not hit them as far and when it comes to your wedges and your short irons what you gain is a little bit of distance and heigh. You answer someone’s question by saying something like a 7-iron is basically the same as the 5 iron I’m a little confused the loft on the 7 iron is totally different and the length on the five would be actually shorter than a normal five so I’m confused with that statement.🤔🏌🏼
I think I might struggle to not “quit” on the swing when I had the pitching wedge in my hands and only 125 yards to go. I think the length of the club would make my brain think it was going to go to far. Also, managing the ball direction because of the height in windy conditions might be an issue. Would like to see the players version tested please. Thanks.
Hey james. Love the daily content. Keep up the gr8 work. Would it be possible for you to use Dr Scholls foot spray in order to show us the contact locations better? Most times it's hard to see where ball and club face meet. Thanks from Stratford Ontario Canada! Cheers. Stephen Malolepszy Mid handicapper!
Certainly food for thought, another good video, nice one 👍
Very informative, thanks fellas, do the irons feel any different to progressive length irons, for example do they feel any heavier?
I've tried the one length 19 degree hybrid, and I found it hard to get use to how heavy the head felt
Would love to see, some more on course action with the one lengths, cheers
With the exception of the F7 and the Forged One Lengths *Brysons irons* why do the other one lengths have different lie angles ?
Be great to see on course testing, great Vid just purchased fmax one length not played with yet
What do you think of the concept of 'Hybrid Length' irons. 4-7 at 7 length and 8-PW at standard progressive lengths? Theoretically, wouldn't this be fantastic for a higher handicap golfer?
Would love to see Mark try them on the course.
Would be interesting to try the one length irons after playing normal length for a very long time
He hit some of those so far, they probably had flight attendants on them. On course test plus one length hybrids next?
For mid handicap golfer hitting a wedge 130 and 7 - 170-180
I like to know what your classing a mid handicap
What does distance have to do with handicap?
Exactly. The 7-iron is basically a 5-iron loft lol
2130Redskins most mid handicappers I know can’t strike a ball with a wedge that far. Unless they thinned it.
I’m a mid handicapper at a17 and I hit my Callaway XR steelhead pitching wedge 125 -130 and my 7 170-175.
Jamie why are you saying the 7 is basically a 5 iron my loft on my 7 is 30 degrees and my 5 is 23degrees and the numbers for the cobra is only a half degree difference and the length of a 5 is longer then the 7, so I’m confused 🤷♂️
I'm not sure either you as a pro or a mid handicapper like Mark are the right people to review these clubs because I don't think they are aimed at players like yourselves, particularly the F8's. I reckon Cobras target market for these is high handicappers or casual weekend golfers. Maybe you should get someone like that to test them for you?
Don't get me wrong I love your reviews but you said yourself you struggle to get your head around the use of them.
It’s something I have thought Ian. Thanks mate
I love mine....but not enough to game them lol!!!
I just got my Fmax one lengths in the mail about 23 minutes ago, I paid $316 for gw-9
Yes, take those bad boys to the course!
Def do the on course test!!
Could you please test Exotics 3 wood and 3 and 4 hybrids ?
Would like to see a review on king cobra one length utility club, doesn't look like many people have done one.
Yep i think an on course test is needed
The one length is a interesting concept. I think that these clubs getting fitted is possibly more critical than with progressive length irons. You’ll need every data point working for you to hit them consistently and to get the gapping right. Also as some of the others have stated this set may not be ideal for the slower swing speed players. Especially the 4-6 Iron they are so strong lofted and the shaft is short making clubhead speed tough to come by and making it difficult to get the ball up. Bryson Dechambeau had his set custom built for him. Getting the loft, lie angle, length, weight of the clubs, the bounce, everything...... custom. I think I was watching him play and the commentator said his irons are 12 degrees upright. A big part of that being he does a single plane swing. The one length irons can be successful under the right conditions.
I really as a high handy cap, this would be a great try.
It is very hard for me to consider Mark as a mid handicapper more like very low handicap. I have not seen him in any of your videos hit the ground first or fat. Most mid to high handicap golfers struggle with hitting ground before ball. I would love to see a guy like me who shoots 90-100 hit those. We can’t hit such flush shots. I think we are the guys those clubs are intended for. Mark is too good to get what we need to see.
love to see on course test please
please test the F9 one length on and off course .. they have the new KBS shafts in them i think it would be a better test for OL .. also the lofts are not that strong as compared with mid handicap irons from TM and callaway .. about comparable ..
With the 52,56,60 degree wedges you can’t hit the same as a 7 iron they won’t work that way, have to put them back further in stance.
Yes on course test but with the pro tec black one length please
I know I am late to the party with this video, but wouldn't the lower spin rates be consistent with the stronger lofts?
Do the course testing as i am considering the one length irons. Thanks
can you do another video going over your simulator and set up and such
In regards to the spin rate could a change in ball help ?
James do u think they should do a set we’re 4,5,6,7 are the same length and 8,9,PW are same as normal ?
You can't get good numbers if you are put off by the look or the concept of the wedge in particular. Marc did not look confortable with the clubs. I Think a high Handicap that has no expectation would do better.