If you looked closely during that episode the Sapphire Cosworth continued to blow out blue smoke after the extensive head work to remedy that very issue, The same problem also occurred when Wheeler Dealers bought and sold a green Mk2 Jag ,it suffered blue smoke when Mike bought it and supposedly repaired during the episode but clearly continued to blow blue smoke after repair as they drove it around Oxford! TBF though Edd China has stated that all cars bought during the series had to have extra work carried out and parts replaced that were never mentioned in thr episodes because of legal reasons , every car had to be scrutinised and any repair no matter how minor had to be carried out, there was never any real profit to be made during the series for this reason.
Great series and thank you for the update(s) ... 👍 Loved the original Wheeler Dealers ... it really appealed to people like myself who 'did up' cars on a budget for a hobby. I learnt quite a bit from watching Edd's mechanical segments ... I started losing interest when Edd and Mike became based in the US. Then when Edd left I watched one episode without Edd and NEVER watched again ... 😒
Funny how at 3:00 onwards, you talk about passionford and the Sapphire Cosworth. I thought i was losing my marbles, as i was adamant that i remembered a post about that car being broken for parts. Then come. 5:55 the exact post about it being broken pops up lol. (relieved i wasn't losing my mind 🤣) I was frequently using passionford at the time, when i had my Sapphire Cosworth and Fiesta RS Turbo etc.
Im pretty sure Series 7 was the 1st series aired here in Oz. It's when I discovered and fell in love with Mike and Ed and the show anyways.. Loving your videos even more now I'm familiar with the cars.. thank you so much for your efforts and research.. 😊
Good stuff of course l watched the wheeler dealers episodes many times over and you can't forget the burnt orange VW Kombi and it is good to here its running
Another enjoyable video with a pretty good result overall. Many commenters have picked up on the WD lies point of view, I guess people like me who remember watching the very first episode thinking it was the best bit of TV I had ever seen can feel a little cheated. I have met Mike Brewer a few times at the NEC car shows and he was a really nice bloke, but that is only a minute snapshot. I once felt that it was possibly Mikes job to deliver the lies in a way that they weren't too obvious on behalf of the production company who came up with the numbers and everything related, but then I heard that Mike actually owned the company so that didn't really get him off the hook. I know it will be much harder or even impossible to look at any of the American series, but I bet the fakery on those is off the scale.
I always thought the original premise of the show was you buy a car, do as much work yourself as you can and sell it on for a modest profit. People talk about Edd’s labour costs but he “played the part” of the home mechanic, (a very good one!), so no costs incurred. To be fair whenever they outsourced work the charges were included. As a TV show I assume they have to be overly careful about the condition of something they sell, so things maybe repaired, replaced of worked on that you might not need to do as a private seller. I think overall costs were based on ballpark figures. Who cares? It’s for entertainment.
Great vlog really enjoyed the Cosworth update and can’t believe it’s been 14 years since I first watched that episode. Wonder what happened to the Cerbera which I think was the same series?
Why are people surprised that a TV car show is not entirely truthful or accurate on the narrative, repairs and other aspects. It’s entertainment, nothing more. Wheeler dealers still had better standards than Pimp my ride, consider yourself to be fortunate for watching something that actually had a bit of reality and truth in it!
Interesting content and as previously reported, they use artistic licence to create the programme but come on who cares , it’s entertaining and it gets us all talking about it.
@@oscarsgarage447 No problem, I found your channel after seeing the GPZ 300 video, I am so glad you've got that back and are going to restore it. I did the same with a 50cc moped 15 or so years ago and still have it.
Thanks, another good one. Look forward to these on a sunday. The Cosworth definately has one of the most convoluted histories yet - from bare shell to mot'd in 11days, there's got to be an interesting story behind it. I'd wager money on it still being around as it's last mot didn't mention anything severe and it's worth far too much to just let it rot in open air.
Can’t stand Mike brewer, remember when they totalled up the costs but there were parts they had not included, I’d say apart from Ed not getting paid any more than £140 for his time they actually lost money big time on it.
It's TV. If you really think Edd was earning nothing then you should think again. Also, over 73 episodes he was listed as an assistant producer/ producer. They get paid.
Cossies around that time were broken for spares a lot, so much so there are so few rwd sapphs left, they were worth more in parts than complete, often the shell lives on although cossies led a very hard life and the premiums people ask for now are a joke. That particular car wasn’t a great example anyway but still sad so many perfectly good cars were broken up.
When people believe MOT History 😅 I've had my car i will not mention that I have had for 5 years and its never been on a MOT ramp in my ownership! Mechanically shes mint and safety is a factor but you pay extra you get a pass lol
I've often wondered what happened to a lot of these cars. To be fair, the show did well for viewers and we must remember it was TV. Quite often cars were sold to members of the crew for viewing purposes to show it sold, but then sold later to real buyers. That's how I assumed it really went
From what I'm finding as time went on things got more honest with the buying/selling element of the show where they could be. Probably they were thinking some idiot would turn up years later on youtube looking for these cars... 😂
The whole cosworth saga seems very iffy, why break it when it looked so mint Why "reshell" another when 2 years later that shell seemed rotten Seems like some ringing with the log book has been going on to me rather than any reshelling and thats why it wss mot'd so fast.... As for the VW the ending was always very strange, if the buyer doesn't appear in the show chances are they are fibbing and it was Paul's job to try and flog it on eBay after filming
I totally agree... I think the cossie was log book swapped. Ringing us another word for it lol. The cossie was fast to nice to be rotten in that short time period.... Something smells
@@oscarsgarage447 Yep I sold my cafe racer ZR and another standard one I had. I now miss them both! Had a load of bother with the carbs. Didn't seem to like E10 or E5
Wheeler dealers for me was about firstly watching hands on car shows with my granda, learning things in every episode which could help when maintaining an old second hand car. The show also used to visit many a small specialist workshop showing how things were done in days gone by. How to repair instead of replace etc. So all this back story nonsense makes zero difference to the show.
@@oscarsgarage447 Yeah, I like fords but honestly righ up until the mondeo MK3 era I dont know about the wheels they kind of always looked like cheap wheell trims from places like halfords. But alot of people must like that since they sell.
@@ivanfernyhough3851 I don't know that I said I liked the new weel I just said hat updatign the wheels on that car was probably a good call. The sapphire wheels were ugly to me wether mint or not. I really didn't take a good look at the new ones was just commenting that there are much better looking wheels on the market than the originals.
Yeah and I was just saying the original wheels looked best.like he says it's all in the eye of the beholder.i have never yet seen aftermarket wheels that look better on a car than the originals and people allways seem to go way to big with them to oh well,would be a boring world if we all liked the same I guess.
The show allways set off the bullshit alarm Mike could allways get an instant discount of a couple of hundred quid when buying a car or parts from car parts specialists just buy asking whats your best price and saying what his budget was Dosent suppries me that most of the sales at the end of the show were probably fake
Love these videos. A great watch with a coffee on a Sunday morning ☕️👍
Glad you enjoy it!
If you looked closely during that episode the Sapphire Cosworth continued to blow out blue smoke after the extensive head work to remedy that very issue, The same problem also occurred when Wheeler Dealers bought and sold a green Mk2 Jag ,it suffered blue smoke when Mike bought it and supposedly repaired during the episode but clearly continued to blow blue smoke after repair as they drove it around Oxford! TBF though Edd China has stated that all cars bought during the series had to have extra work carried out and parts replaced that were never mentioned in thr episodes because of legal reasons , every car had to be scrutinised and any repair no matter how minor had to be carried out, there was never any real profit to be made during the series for this reason.
Great series and thank you for the update(s) ... 👍
Loved the original Wheeler Dealers ... it really appealed to people like myself who 'did up' cars on a budget for a hobby. I learnt quite a bit from watching Edd's mechanical segments ...
I started losing interest when Edd and Mike became based in the US. Then when Edd left I watched one episode without Edd and NEVER watched again ... 😒
Thanks for watching!
Great work Oscar. We are enjoying your uploads and your WD updates. And hello from Australia 😂
Awesome! Thank you!
I do enjoy your internet skullduggery
Funny how at 3:00 onwards, you talk about passionford and the Sapphire Cosworth. I thought i was losing my marbles, as i was adamant that i remembered a post about that car being broken for parts. Then come. 5:55 the exact post about it being broken pops up lol. (relieved i wasn't losing my mind 🤣) I was frequently using passionford at the time, when i had my Sapphire Cosworth and Fiesta RS Turbo etc.
Its a great forum!
Im pretty sure Series 7 was the 1st series aired here in Oz. It's when I discovered and fell in love with Mike and Ed and the show anyways.. Loving your videos even more now I'm familiar with the cars.. thank you so much for your efforts and research.. 😊
Glad you enjoy them
Good stuff of course l watched the wheeler dealers episodes many times over and you can't forget the burnt orange VW Kombi and it is good to here its running
The biggest loss they made was on the Fiat dino, so underpriced it made me feel sick lol
Very interesting to see how these ended up great work really enjoyed it 👍🏻
Thanks
Another enjoyable video with a pretty good result overall. Many commenters have picked up on the WD lies point of view, I guess people like me who remember watching the very first episode thinking it was the best bit of TV I had ever seen can feel a little cheated. I have met Mike Brewer a few times at the NEC car shows and he was a really nice bloke, but that is only a minute snapshot. I once felt that it was possibly Mikes job to deliver the lies in a way that they weren't too obvious on behalf of the production company who came up with the numbers and everything related, but then I heard that Mike actually owned the company so that didn't really get him off the hook. I know it will be much harder or even impossible to look at any of the American series, but I bet the fakery on those is off the scale.
I always thought the original premise of the show was you buy a car, do as much work yourself as you can and sell it on for a modest profit. People talk about Edd’s labour costs but he “played the part” of the home mechanic, (a very good one!), so no costs incurred. To be fair whenever they outsourced work the charges were included.
As a TV show I assume they have to be overly careful about the condition of something they sell, so things maybe repaired, replaced of worked on that you might not need to do as a private seller. I think overall costs were based on ballpark figures. Who cares? It’s for entertainment.
Well said!
Gearbox wasn't replaced. Think input shaft bearing noisy sent of for new bearing.
The Bay was on Volkszone not Piston Heads. I remember it.
Value today if in that condition £10k -£14k
Thank you Oscar, I love your Wheeler Dealer updates and how they lied to us
Excellent work 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Great vlog really enjoyed the Cosworth update and can’t believe it’s been 14 years since I first watched that episode. Wonder what happened to the Cerbera which I think was the same series?
Glad you enjoyed it, will get to that...
The VW van episode stuck in my memory as they did the final test drive where I grew up.
Bembridge embankment!
Why are people surprised that a TV car show is not entirely truthful or accurate on the narrative, repairs and other aspects. It’s entertainment, nothing more. Wheeler dealers still had better standards than Pimp my ride, consider yourself to be fortunate for watching something that actually had a bit of reality and truth in it!
Interesting content and as previously reported, they use artistic licence to create the programme but come on who cares , it’s entertaining and it gets us all talking about it.
Enjoyable video.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
@@oscarsgarage447 No problem, I found your channel after seeing the GPZ 300 video, I am so glad you've got that back and are going to restore it. I did the same with a 50cc moped 15 or so years ago and still have it.
Great story, and yes work has started on the Gpz
Hi from a fellow AU Fairmont owner - mine is an AU1 Wagon.
They may of listed it being broken for parts but never actually broke it up .and just sold it on whole
Well it said the images in the breaking post showed the running gear had been removed.
Thanks, another good one. Look forward to these on a sunday.
The Cosworth definately has one of the most convoluted histories yet - from bare shell to mot'd in 11days, there's got to be an interesting story behind it.
I'd wager money on it still being around as it's last mot didn't mention anything severe and it's worth far too much to just let it rot in open air.
Glad you enjoyed it
Saw you at Sherborne today didnt get the chance to pop over and say hello
Sorry I missed you, always happy to say hello!
Can’t stand Mike brewer, remember when they totalled up the costs but there were parts they had not included, I’d say apart from Ed not getting paid any more than £140 for his time they actually lost money big time on it.
It's TV. If you really think Edd was earning nothing then you should think again. Also, over 73 episodes he was listed as an assistant producer/ producer. They get paid.
Can you find the stolen Mk1 Fiesta?
Not even Mike can find that...
The picture at Ace Cafe is of a 4X4
It was a 4x4 but had front drive removed...
@@oscarsgarage447 not in that photo look at the offset on the wheels
I cant believe how wheeler dealers keep lying to everyone
Maybe because brewer is a second hand car dealer and when it comes to flogging second hand cars, lying is standard practice.
No wonder Edd quit.
🤥 So do government politicians, and it does them no harm ! ⚠..
@@stephenbland7461Watch the hpa video with him in.
Hpa?
I think you’re fine. The video says I bought a car and then sold it! Take your bullshit elsewhere.
Cossies around that time were broken for spares a lot, so much so there are so few rwd sapphs left, they were worth more in parts than complete, often the shell lives on although cossies led a very hard life and the premiums people ask for now are a joke. That particular car wasn’t a great example anyway but still sad so many perfectly good cars were broken up.
Hopefully the owner may see this post
When people believe MOT History 😅 I've had my car i will not mention that I have had for 5 years and its never been on a MOT ramp in my ownership! Mechanically shes mint and safety is a factor but you pay extra you get a pass lol
Vw nerd here. The Bay's wheels are Empi 5 spoke replicas, not Fuchs. 🙂
I've been expecting you 😂
The VW barely kept up with inflation
Anyone who thinks ANY tv program is real, needs to give their head a wobble.
Ed workshop mate Paul owned the Cosworth for a while
If you in consideration mechanic’s fees, Mike would be at a huge loss. I can’t imagine that it is based on zero labour costs for Edd.
In later shows they did state labour hours. Think it was comparing it to what you could do at home.
I've often wondered what happened to a lot of these cars. To be fair, the show did well for viewers and we must remember it was TV. Quite often cars were sold to members of the crew for viewing purposes to show it sold, but then sold later to real buyers. That's how I assumed it really went
From what I'm finding as time went on things got more honest with the buying/selling element of the show where they could be. Probably they were thinking some idiot would turn up years later on youtube looking for these cars... 😂
I would have thought that the Ford would have survived although here there all drift cars now
What a pointless waste !
@@jasoneldridge4738 I'd agree very rare to see either an altezza or a Sierra in original form in ireland now
The whole cosworth saga seems very iffy, why break it when it looked so mint
Why "reshell" another when 2 years later that shell seemed rotten
Seems like some ringing with the log book has been going on to me rather than any reshelling and thats why it wss mot'd so fast....
As for the VW the ending was always very strange, if the buyer doesn't appear in the show chances are they are fibbing and it was Paul's job to try and flog it on eBay after filming
I totally agree... I think the cossie was log book swapped. Ringing us another word for it lol. The cossie was fast to nice to be rotten in that short time period.... Something smells
Is that a ZR550 in the background?
Certainly is... and as ever with me there is a story to it...
@@oscarsgarage447 Prey tell! I had a couple of these, including one I had converted to WW2 themed cafe racer
Sold it, regretted it, drove 420 mile round trip to get it back. Sound familiar? Also cost me 50% more than I sold it for...
@@oscarsgarage447 Yep I sold my cafe racer ZR and another standard one I had. I now miss them both! Had a load of bother with the carbs. Didn't seem to like E10 or E5
Mate you look like Ian Beal from Eastenders
Lol
Bloody Cortinas 😅
Not the first mention of that... also Ben Elton apparently
The cozzie will be rotten somewhere!
They usually were... I had a 12 year old Sierra for a kit car... rotten as a pear
@@oscarsgarage447😢
Is that a Robinhood you are sitting on?
It is...
When did it get the shocks? That might have explained the headlight aim, or the shocks were adjusted
Shock went on early 2012, headlight issue 2015/17
Wheeler dealers for me was about firstly watching hands on car shows with my granda, learning things in every episode which could help when maintaining an old second hand car. The show also used to visit many a small specialist workshop showing how things were done in days gone by. How to repair instead of replace etc. So all this back story nonsense makes zero difference to the show.
I agree with the wheel change, that era ford had really ugly alloys.
Beauty in the eye of the beholder, etc...
@@oscarsgarage447 Yeah, I like fords but honestly righ up until the mondeo MK3 era I dont know about the wheels they kind of always looked like cheap wheell trims from places like halfords. But alot of people must like that since they sell.
Can't agree on that one,the original wheels on both the 3 doors and the sapphires looked mint.i hate big black wheels.
@@ivanfernyhough3851 I don't know that I said I liked the new weel I just said hat updatign the wheels on that car was probably a good call. The sapphire wheels were ugly to me wether mint or not. I really didn't take a good look at the new ones was just commenting that there are much better looking wheels on the market than the originals.
Yeah and I was just saying the original wheels looked best.like he says it's all in the eye of the beholder.i have never yet seen aftermarket wheels that look better on a car than the originals and people allways seem to go way to big with them to oh well,would be a boring world if we all liked the same I guess.
I know info about the XJC when you come to the video
Please drop us an email at oscarsgarage999@gmail.com 😉
The Cosworth story is all a bit fishy
I can only bring you the information I find...
Yawn 🥱
Glad you enjoyed it.
No RS COSWORTH OWNER SELLS MOTORSPORT RS STEERING WHEEL
The show allways set off the bullshit alarm
Mike could allways get an instant discount of a couple of hundred quid when buying a car or parts from car parts specialists just buy asking whats your best price and saying what his budget was
Dosent suppries me that most of the sales at the end of the show were probably fake