Servicing is actually pretty cheap. I do my own bike services . My 2005 Fatboy costs the same as my 2019 interceptor to service and takes around the same sort of time to service. You are absolutely correct about appreciation of the value. I had a dyna for 19 years . When I traded it in at the dealer in 2006 to buy my fatboy the dealer gave me £700 more than the cost of the bike from himself 19 years before that. Best wishes from Phil in West Yorkshire .
I have a 1967 XLH Sportster I got in 1982 in high school A high is riding that old bike. A Harley Davidson is more than just a bike they have a soul and come a live when you ride one. Sportsters aer coming up in price 👀 Ironhead sportsters Have risen from $ 1,500 up to $6.000 new ones are a great Investment for the future
I have owned many, many different motorcycles, and now have had a 2008 XL1200C since 2011, and have had ridiculously low maintenance costs with it. Bonus: It runs better now than the day I bought it. I am forever a Sportster man.
Hi Freddie, I picked up my Custom Sportster Forty Eight yesterday, riding over 200-miles in gale force winds and rain to get it home. Ten miles felt like a thousand compared to my Multistrada. I stopped at every service station to give my body a rest (and fuel up). Every inch of me was sore and ached. And yet I woke up today and couldn't wait to get back on it. It's a 'soul bike'. I've never ridden anything with more personality, more cool, more soul than this. It spits, crackles and bangs. Gets compliments every time we stop. It looks and FEELS special. The handling sucks, the suspension is shocking and I've never been as uncomfortable in my life. And yet I can't imagine I'll ever sell it. I am well and truly in love with Sportster 48. Everyone should own one at some point in their life. There's nothing else like it.
I just bought mine a week ago. My first Harley. 1200, carburated, no rubber engine mounts. I'm in love like no other of my ten previous bikes. I'm a little afraid to modify it or let it almost stock. And I'm so happy to finally enjoy the ride without going fast. Thats what I was looking for. Becoming wiser, but still having fun.
I've always said, the reason Harley riders are so good in bar fights is all the practice they get fighting their bikes. Much respect to all the Harley riders cause they work hard and their bikes are beautiful to look at and listen to.
I put old school 26"Buck horn bars on my 2004 1200c. Changed my narrow 21" front rim to a 3.5 in wide 21" black with laced wire spokes. and added a fatter 21" tire. Lowered rear .5 to 1 inch. Running black taped up Vance Hines long exhaust. Running Vintage Classic Harley insignias on the tank and side covers. Leather fringed Saddle bags. Basically mine is a semi bobber. Harley knows that the Sportster is basically a blank canvas and most buyers at least in the past would be customizing them to their liking. In the 60s the Sportster was Hells Angels bike of Choice..
I've got the 2003 100 year anniversary sporty. I find no issue with vibrations and enjoy the ease of the carb. It's a nimble little beast that you can throw around compared to the scout. I rode the scout and felt like I had nothing between my legs. I want to hear and feel my ride! To each their own though. You know what you are buying with the Harley, an evo engine that will go on forever and a highly customisable bike in comparison to the competition.
That loud noise and the shake, that's normal it's so you know the engine is running. Its the best-sounding Harley ever produced, thanks to its one-of-a-kind, four individual camshafts, it sounds like an old V8 buick rumbling down the road. If you want a Honda this isn't right for you. The Sportster is one of a kind motorcycle experience. There is nothing like it on the road today.
I’m 36, never ridden a motorbike in my life. But I listen to everything you say about them because of the passion you show. Always great vids Freddie (and Monika)
A chuckle escapes me, Freddie, when I hear you describe the '07 Sportster as "shaking" all over, and "nothing light about it at all". Actually, the "light" part of it is, as compared with the other models in the Harley line. Such as the Street Glide, Road Glide, and all of the' Touring models ' in the Harley line up. Even the Low Rider and other' Cruisers' in the line up are noticeably heavier than the Sportster. Though the Sportster did gain considerable weight over the decades, it's still the lightest of the cruiser bikes Harley made. ( 'cruiser', hmm, actually, the Sportster was the factory 'flat track hot rod' for decades from the late 50's, 'till present day a Sportster derivitive is still in ' hot competition '. And they were the ' world's fastest production bike' for decades. And as for the "shaking", well, you ain't felt nothing yet! You should try out a 2003, or before model, to experience the true heritage of the venerable Sportster! Then you would realize that 'mostly just the motor is shaking' on the rubber mounted versions, from 2004 and up. To appreciate the rubber mounted ones, you must try out a 'solid mount' 2003 or before. It will 'ROCK YOUR WORLD' ! But remember as you go rattling down the road on a solid mounted one, that we loved every butt numbing second we rode them, around town, and cross country! There was never anything that made you love a bike more than a well tuned Sportster. BTW, if you put quiet mufflers on them, they run hotter than anything ever should. And it just hurts like hell to feel them burning up like that. Besides, that 'particular noise', is all part of the mystique. (to keep your hearing, use ear plugs) As for everyone else, well, FTW ! Now you're getting the Sportster attitude ! Happy to hear you so excited with them. Carry it on for another generation to enjoy. Rubber down, Throttle up !
This is why we subscribe to certain RUclipsrs! You feel like your part of an exclusive club, you just can't find quality like this on main TV anymore! Great video guys ✌
So much of what you said about choosing character in a classic motorbike holds true for our air-cooled Boonies. It’s not a choice made from logic or by the specs. Thankfully so many of us appreciate the things that make motorcycling fun that aren’t by the numbers.
With 2004 also the trap door was removed - so servicing the gearbox without splitting the case is impossible from there on. Owned a 1996 Sportster Sport and now a 2004 Sportster Custom (both 1200cc) the vibration wasn’t that bad on the rigid mounts, but the passengers footpegs where still mounted on the swingarm which made long distances rides especially over bad roads a bit challenging for the passenger 😇. Sportster engines are extremely tough and when I worked for HD I‘ve seen engines with 200k miles that never had been overhauled on the bottom end and still run fine! For me the Sportster is the HD to go for, because it has the most reliable engine and if you follow its origins back it relates to the first 4cam engine in the JD in 1924… So a legacy that no other bike will ever have!
So glad I found this channel, iam sure there isn't any other RUclips channels that express so much passion for motorcycles. Iam looking for a new bike and the sportster has sucked me in. Agree with everything you said , it's all about character and style with this bike along with it being an investment. I do believe I will be riding one in 2023 !
Got a 2004 I bought new as an 883. Went to the dealership with $16 k cash. Left with the bike and half my money. Ffwd to now, I put mini apes on it, a hammer 1275 kit with all the fixins, upgraded suspension, and this bike is as fun and comfy as I need to go all day. Mine doesn’t shake or vibrate it’s super smooth so idk what all that is about. I’m 62 yrs old and ride all day with no issue. She will be 20 yrs old next year and so far haven’t found another bike that is better for me. The bike is bulletproof, that’s why they didn’t change the engine for so many decades. It may not be for everyone but it’s right for me. Love my bike. Xena @ The XL Forum.
You phrased it PERFECTLY!!! I just got off my first Harley Davidson. A XL Sportster x 48. It is Amazing........After 44 years of motorcycle experience, I now know why people are so enamored with the Harley Davidson motorcycle.
It's not about the speed or agility with a Harley. it's about the feeling you get riding one. The Sportster is like a cool two wheeled tractor that will go anywhere and will do 100mph on the straightaway.
Freddie, this was an honest and objective evaluation of the Sportster. Well done, man! Me, I've owned *four* Sportsters: #3 (1996 883) and #4 (1998 1200) are in the garage right now. #2 was an '05 "rubbermount" that maybe I shouldn't have sold. #1 was an '86 (first year Evo). I love ''em. I *thought* the rubbermount would be an order of magnitude smoother than my solid-mount '86, but it was not. In fact, I think my '96 883 is the smoothest of them all. You did touch on what is probably the most noticeable thing about Sportsters: they're agricultural in nature. But you know what...people *like* old agricultural machinery. Hence the appeal. A friend of mine used to ride a 750 Honda Shadow, which was very similar in design to the Sportster. On a trip, we (briefly) traded bikes. The Honda was...nice...but soul-less. A nice bike, but I wouldn't own one. He got off of my Sportster (my '05) and scowled, "That thing is like driving an old pickup truck!" He did not mean it in a good way. But I like old pickup trucks, too. The thing about Sportsters is that you will NEVER find one that's stock. Everybody modifies..."personalizes" them to their own taste. Almost everyone puts louder mufflers on them. Not me, I like 'em quiet. In closing, you figured it out: You *cannot* compare a Sportster to any modern motorcycle - because it will compare unfavorably. The Sportster is timeless - it's in a class by itself. And you either "get" it, or you don't. I do. I love them. Great video!
Hi Freddie, as someone who enjoyed having a Sportster for a little while, I loved it and even within the hierarchy of HD riders, Sportsters are considered a group of their own. I grew into a Road King so I'm still a HD rider but I still miss the Sporty. You don't have to wait for them to be a modern classic, for the most part they have considered that for the past 30 or 40 years but people love them and as you found out, they have a character all of their own. Stay healthy and ride safe and have fun!
Great video, I'm riding a Sportster 1200R since 2004 and for me it's a very nice and high quality bike,since the start in 2004 nothing broke down or is getting in a bad state. It's not only character which makes these bikes different than the rest, it's also quality. It's not the most fastest or roadholding bike but it's easy competing with many other bikes. Mine isn't used for hoping from cafe to cafe but for long trips around Europe and it never let me down. Thanks for your nice video.
Hi Freddie like your style of presentation . I have owned my Sportster for 4 years now and its a 2009 Nightster, the day I picked it up it rained hard all the way home over the Cotswold hills, but I had a grin on my face for the entire journey home and even yesterday when I took the bike out at 6.30 am I still smiled as l fired her up and rode up the A38 with the cold air in my face (and bugs). The Harley can get me to work in 10 minutes if I choose to , but its a Harley so I look for routes that make me stay in the saddle longer and try to spend as much time enjoying the characteristics of the iconic V twin as possible. Keep your GS1250's and Tiger 900's (The Range Rovers of bikes) but as they say horses for courses. Keep up the great work ....Somewhere in the Cotswolds.
I just bought my first Sportster after having had Hondas for 15 years. I found a 2012 XL1200C Sportster Custom. It only had 1904 miles on it. Immaculate. Yes it shakes a bit…..part of the charm. It also came with V&H exhaust. Louder than the screaming eagle pipes. Oh well. I paid less than $7K USD. And I got it from a local HD dealer. I consider the Sportster a true classic. I hope you enjoyed it. It’s everything a HD should be for the type of bike that it is.
After years of daydreaming I finally bought a 2003 Harley Sportster and it's being delivered tomorrow..I can't wait!! I'm sure it'll shake me to bits but I don't care because it's my dream bike lol 😂😂 Have a great Sunday! Love your videos! 🙏🙏
The one thing that's so consistent with your videos - Your Enthusiasm for what you do!!!...Love that you get excited about your passions. You are right - HD owners do keep them clean...maintenance is a different questions....but heck I have a GS Adventure - it hasn't been clean since the day I bought it...haha!!! - Great job as usual - spot on with the history....fantastic!!!
I’ve owned numerous Sportsters and just love them. I figured you’d enjoy this, beautiful bike you’re testing. On repair cost I would say geography makes a huge difference. In Wisconsin here where I live there’s Harley dealers everywhere. Most people who own bikes either fix it themselves or have other Harley owners do it. They are everywhere here, Sportster are a dime a dozen. My 2006 1200R I paid $2,800 for and sold it for $3,000 3 years later. That was 5 years ago. I can buy the same bike for probably $4,000. That bike had 73,000 trouble free miles. I’m considering buying a Triumph Street Scrambler this spring. For us in the States we are concerned because Triumphs are rare and expensive to work on, the opposite. Harley parts are available everywhere here and are dirt cheap, used parts are very inexpensive and there’s used custom parts available everywhere in peoples garages. Triumph parts are nowhere to be found. Geography makes such a difference. I bet it’s pretty easy to find Triumphs and Triumph parts in your location? I bet working on Triumphs is pretty affordable by you too? I’d love to own a Triumph I think. Thanks for the video!
But….here in Wisconsin, Harley’s are like pickup trucks around here. Everyone’s got one. 😀. But that’s the reason I decided not to get a Harley. My ‘94 Yamaha Virago is pretty much maintenance free. But the 883 Sportster and the XR750 are the best when it comes to low maintenance. Rode a 883 from Alabama to Alaska and back. Not one problem.
This is really interesting because in the UK, Triumphs are everywhere. It’s incredibly easy to get parts for them and they’re easy to work on. I checked the prices of new Harleys in the US vs the UK and it’s eye opening how much more expensive they are in the UK!
2005 XL1200R with a ton of mods is bar none the most grins per mile I’ve ever had in 45 yrs of moto cycling ! Indestructible motor, very easy to service, cruise all day at 70 at 3000 rpm. A brilliant all rounder. And if you want more power to deal with modern traffic no problem.. Everyone should have a go on a decently upgraded sportster.
I have a 2006 Sportster 1200 that I've owned for over 10 years. Based off the knowledge of owning one for that long I would say your assessment is mostly correct in the video. I disagree on a few things though. My sportster has been very cheap to maintain. I'm mechanically inclined so I don't pay dealership shop fees, but even if I weren't it has hardly needed any repairs. The only major repair I've done is replacing the clutch. All of these sportsters come with a ticking time bomb in the clutch...the stupid riveted spring plate which will fail if it hasn't yet, sometimes catastrophically. I only had to put new clutch plates in mine but sometimes you have to replace the clutch basket too depending on the damage when it fails. Other than that, I've literally only had to do normal fluid changes and batteries. These bikes are very reliable. I also disagree about the vibration on the rubber mount models. They shake A LOT at idle but once you get moving they smooth out nicely. I've ridden a few rigid mount sportys and yes, those things will rattle your fillings out. I also wouldn't hesitate to get a carburated model. I prefer my carburated bike. It hasn't given me a single problem and if it did it's easy to take it off and rebuild it.
I thought until now that I was the only person that thought Sportsters will start to increase in value soon! Bought my 1200 Custom near the end of last year. Like nothing I've ridden in the last 18 years! You summed up exactly how it rides. It love riding it and it's character and isn't that really what riding a bike is all about? Loved this video, feels a refreshing change to many others so have decided to subscribe to see more. Thank you.
Delighted you’ve subscribed, thank you James! I agree; I know there are a lot of Sportsters around because they were so popular, but I see them slowly and steadily climbing in value👌🏻👌🏻
There are so many Harley mechanics here in the U.S. that unless you need something major done, upkeep cost isn't that bad. I have a 2011 Sportster, and I bought it just because over here you can find parts for it until I die. My first bike was an 83 Honda Nighthawk and I've Frankensteined the crap out of it just because I can't find parts. I love the show! It has gotten me back into riding and wanting a Continental GT.
The 1200s are quick with carb models when rejetted and the exhaust is swapped. The exhaust alone makes a big ass difference in performance from stock pipes.
I just bought an 2007 XL1200L in Black with 6408 Km which is 3981 Miles. After watching your video I am so glad I did! Will get it tomorrow. Looking forward to riding it. Thank you..
I love the way you demonstrate the the rock and roll on this bike…..You either love ‘em or hate ‘em…..For me the Sporty is a great way to find that out….the rumble and the roll of the Harley is what makes them so unique, they will lose that completely with the electric…its interesting to see how if they lose the trademark of noise, rawness and badass…and produce these new machines that are quiet, sophisticated and modern, where does that place the brand….
Exactly my thoughts!⚡️ After riding the Livewire; it’s a good bike but has no character and no bloodline/similarities with any other Harley. Will Harley make electric traditional old school styled cruisers, or completely move away from their trade mark styling- like they did with the Livewire.
@@FreddieDobbs Electric motorcycles are still far from being viable. For a city commuter they are already viable and there are plenty of options for that, but for a cruiser like a classic HD that people usually buy them to travel hundreds of miles on the road, these kind of bikes are still going to have an internal combustion engine for the foreseeable future.
I have a 2000 model 883 which I've owned for about 12 years now, and it gets ridden every day. I wouldn't know what the mechanic costs because I never need one. Nothing ever seems to go wrong with it - well, when I first bought it, it was wet-sumping. There's a spring with a synthetic rubber ball thing on one end of it that lives behind the double ended nut thing the oil filter screws onto. I replaced that spring & rubber thingy with new ones and fixed that problem. I had to replace the starter motor solenoid last year, and now I need to do the fork seals. That's the only work it's needed, apart from fluid & filter changes, in the time that I've owned it. The spring & check ball for the oil system (genuine HD spares) came to about $12 AU if I remember rightly, and there were 5 springs in the bag! I think I won't be needing to ever buy more of those. The starter motor repair kit was about 30 bucks I think. I do my own servicing. Hydraulic lifters mean no valve clearances to do. Compared to many of the other bikes I've owned it's really quite a simple job to look after it. I can't really say I noticed the vibration, maybe it's a 1200 thing. I used to have a '68 Triumph TR6R that vibrated more. Now that HD aren't making them anymore I can see them becoming more collectable. My daughter can worry about that, I don't plan on selling it.
I absolutely loved my tuned (stage 4 - pipes, air, tuner,cams), straight through piped 1200 iron sportster. Bits fell off it a lot due to the vibrations, it was car alarm setting off loud but it was bloody lovely. Always made you feel amazing riding it and although my thruxton is nice I really want an old sportster again.
Great video. Those foot pegs are the same stock pegs that were fitted to my new 2015 street bob. HD know most people spend a fortune swapping pegs, mirrors, saddles, pipes etc so tend to use plain bits on their bikes. My wife’s got a 2010 883XL and she’s just under 5 feet tall, so perfect bike for smaller riders. Also the 883 and 1200 are exactly the same bike / engine and it’s not a massively expensive job to have a big bore conversion to turn 883 into 1200. It’s a favourite base build for choppers etc 👍
Forgot to mention one thing you may have forgotten as well. In addition to best looks and presence, the 1200 Evo propels the Sportsters from stand-still to legal speeds like few other bike. A parting comment on exhausts, the Street Canons silencers from Screamin’ Eagle give just the right and unique American sound.
I own a 06 883 upgraded to 1200 and maintenance is cheap cos it’s hardly ever broken, mine doesn’t shake very much and the sound is intoxicating 😂 the Sporty is the best Harley ever made. It was the biggest mistake the motor company did to end the Sportster line , these new “sportsters” don’t deserve the name of the LEGEND !
I’ve owned my sportster 48 2011 since new taken it to Rome and Barcelona and has never let me down,I recently went to Kawasaki dealer to buy a engine gasket for my zx7r and for 1 second considered trading it in for an new z900rs 50th anniversary,then i looked at the price €14,000 made love my Harley even more.Riding to Nice on it next month.Happy days.
Proud owner of a hd 2014 sportster xl 1200 cb. The most beautiful thing is that i’m 44, this is my first bike, and i am still taking my license (1 more month), and you were spot on on what makes someone want to get a hd. Or a sporster. You feel the charecter of the bike. You feel the tradition. You feel what is to have pleasure of riding. Not for the speed. Not for the thriling sensation of dynamics. But for the raw pleasure of the machine. Kudos for your review, Freddie. 👏🏻👏🏻
Hello, A fine episode of yours. I wondered when you’d come to a Sportster. I had two BMWs (1978-1980) and a Triumph (1960) - yes I am classic bike fan. But in 2020, age 60, I came across the Forty Eight, a brand new one of the last imported in Europe. 18 months later I have ridden 19,000 km and love it to bits. Quite a few parts broke, belt guard (twice), air filter mount, rear light, brake light and its switch, … To my eyes the 48 is the best looking Harley of them all. I bought it for 12,000€ and their value is currently rocketing … you really nailed the spirits of the bike, its presence (current Bonnevilles and Indians are no match) and huge appeal. Wherever I went, people of all ages react positively … it “speaks” to them, and to me ! If I can, I’ll never part from it.
I'm riding my third sportster, a used 67, then a 05 1200 custom that was totaled by a deer or I'd still have it. I now have a 2016 sportster Roadster and will keep it forever! They are nearly bullet proof and very easy to maintain your self. Not expensive if you don't go to a dealership! Plenty of small shops will do the work for you if you choose not to do it yourself! I have never had a problem with any of mine and only need to do fluid changes and small adjustments to keep it in better than new running order! I also have a BMW R1200R but I ride the sportster most often!
Harley's are all about smiles per mile, they're an acquired taste but once that taste is acquired you will be hooked, one thing you can guarantee is a Harley will hold its value, keep it long enough and you are unlikely to lose money so if you want a 1200 Sportster Freddie then buy one when you get back, you won't regret it.
I still own 2016 Roadster - the very first of its kind (without ABS as should be). It has been Cafe’d up with Dart, Screaming Eagle plugs and cables, etc. Incredibly reliable, easy to maintain, very easy to work on modify if you want. If there is one bike that is a keeper, this is it.
All the new bikes get more and more refined . I do believe that old Harley's and same goes for old ducatis in my opinion will hold their value very well and or appreciate , no doubt about it !
Great video by Monika and obviously you Freddie!! This Sportster range is going to be like the VW Beetle and camper for fans for years to come I'm sure. With all the specialist workshops and stockists.
Hello Freddie, thank you for posting the video. I passed my UK motorcycle test in 1980 on a 1978 Honda CB250N, a red and blue one, as soon as I had my full licence I traded the Honda in against a 1977 Triumph TR7RV 'Tiger 750'. To me that Tiger was my first real motorcycle, I then bought a brand new 1981 T140E, then a 1977 T160V, then a 1983 TSX 750. Then a 1980 Moto Guzzi V50, then a 1980 Laverda 1200TS, then a Benelli 900 Sei, which incidentally I still own. I also had a 1980 Moto Guzzi SP1000. In 2011 after a break from motorcycling I really fancied buying a Harley-Davidson Sportster, so I bought a brand new XL883N 'Iron' in black denim livery. I had looked at the 2011 Bonneville's, the Moto Guzzi V7's as I was looking fdor a machine with character and the Iron wone me over eventhough I was originally intending to buy a Forty-Eight, I didn't like the forward mounted foot contrils on that, the Iron had mid controls that suited my riding style. Over the years I've done so much to that Iron and eleven years later I still own it. You are right about the Sportster, it isn't like any other motorcycle, it shakes, it doesn't handle as well as my previous machines, but the Sportster Evolution motor is bomb proof. There as thousands of aftermarket parts available for the Sportster, it's the most customisable motorcycle on the planet, you can turn the basic stock Sporty into anything that you want. I installed a pair of Python slip-on mufflers and you can hear me coming from a mile away. You alway's get noticed on a Sporty by other road users, from cyclists to car drivers to truck drivers, they give me an admiring glance and a reassuring nod or a smile.
Pre-2004 Sportsters is where it's at. They're extremely scrappy hotrods... nearly 100 lbs lighter and they don't shake, they literally "JUMP" up and down when they're running. Get them above 3000 rpm and they'll take off after a Stage 2. The restrictor plate under the air cleaner, a set of exhaust, and some cams; the bike is literally 80hp/80ft lb. and 483 lbs with nearly 40 degrees of lean. It's night and day different from a rubber mount, and far more spirited. Side note, but Carbs are also extremely reliable. I haven't messed with the carb on my 98 1200 since I re-jetted it in 1998... still runs flawlessly.
we had a Harley Sportster 2005 for13 years we bought it 6 months old took it too Cyprus with us where we relocated for 12 years sold it there for what we paid in UK for it it was a brilliant bike and nothing was replaced only a battery and a differnt back wheel
Nice ride! I've got a 2006 XL1200C that I picked up a few years ago for $2300 USD......has 40k miles on it but wouldn't know it.....has all the goodies, screamin eagle stage 1 intake, dynojet carb kit with thunderslide, santee 50 cal shotgun exhaust, and even tho I wouldn't want to take it on a super long road trip, it's a fine ride for around here! She's quick, nimble, and reliable.....and tho I enjoy imported bikes as well, nothing compares to the heavy duty, big, rustic feel of a harley!
I think you are right on about the prices holding up well, I see 1 - 2 year old Irons and 48's selling for what they cost new in the dealers ( admittedly a Harley dealer ). 883 Iron Ideal for Monica, and you could always borrow it .
I have a harley because i wanted a sportster. Had it for 2 years and 10 thousand miles, its not stock anymore, dropping a 1200 bore kit in it right now. Its cool.
As an owner of a 2001 Sportster 1200S I really enjoyed the video. No problem of vibes up to 70mph on the solid mount carb version and none of that shaking itself to bits. Those loud exhausts don't help, the standard pipes sound fine on my bike. I love riding around the country roads but after 30 miles on the back my son was in agony and never got on it again. I'm sure the backrest made all the difference for Monika. As you said a bike full of character and will only go up in value. Cheers for the great content.
I found two pleasant surprises today on my recent purchase of a used 883 which was converted to 1200 cc. I got 50 MPG so I can go 150+ miles on the 3.3-gallon tank, and at 70 mph there is a sweet spot in little to no vibration. Perfect for the interstate. It has so much torque it can be a bit scary taking off. I was on a straight line roll in first gear, low in the rpm's and then quickly turned the throttle full on, and I had one shift into second, and what it seemed like was in two seconds I was doing 50 MPH. Not so bad. That surprised me. No other mods, just a 1200 top end from Harley.
I rode and 84 Iron Head Sportster for 23 years. I have a 99 Harley Softail Custom now. A little more comfort for my 82 year old body. LOL. I started on a 1942 "45" Flat Head back in 1955 when I was 14.
Greetings from Florida, USA. I have owned many, many motorcycles. I love and enjoy the freedom of riding. I just recently bought a 2006 XL1200C with 18,500 miles. She’s super clean and the previous owner took really care of her which is a benefit for me. I also own a 2004 Road King and a Vespa Scooter. Like I said before I really enjoy riding. Take care and enjoy your Sportster 👍.
Thanks Freddie and Momica - great video and awesome audio. I see the mirrors still come with text that says "Objects in mirrors are less noisy than you". In 1993, I returned to motorcycling after a ten year break. I was either going to get a nice used GPz900R (like the 750(?) version Tom Cruise rides in Top Gun) or Sportster. I ended up with a 1990 883 which I kept for 18 months and about 30,000 miles before trading to a bigger Harley. That would have been a newer 1200 Sportster but then a nice used FXRS-SP turned up at my local dealer, so I had that instead. Just recently, I met a couple of enthusiastic Sportster owners at a local bike meet. So I think the Sportster has a particular niche for folk who like Harleys but don't want a Big Twin. Hence I think you may be right about residual values.
Hey Freddie, I own a 2012 Nightster (since 2019) which is, as you will know, a 1200 Sportster, and I absolutely love it. Nothing is dripping off, it´s reliable and very fun to ride, even on long trips. As you basically sit on a motor with wheels it develops quite an amount of torque. You´ll need a good sports car to beat me at the traffic lights :) I love the shaking a lot, one smart dude said riding a Sportster is for the tough ones, and yes, this is true. It doesn´t get any more basic than that, and that´s the appeal, as you said in the video.
I've just bought my 3rd Harley and have had sports bikes, green laners, commuters, cruisers, adventure bikes, you name it ive had it. Eveytime I sell a Harley I swear it'll be my last, and here I am again buying another!!! Theyre not the quickest, dont handle the best and dont stop very well, but they have a certain something that keeps me wanting more. You can't beat a Harley for looking and sounding cool as f*@k!
As a former owner of two Sportsters, a '96 and a '2014 (plus a Dyna which is like an overgrown Sportster) I feel reasonable qualified to comment. The '96, an 883 was good up to 75mph, but over that? The 2014 Superlow 1200 largely looked the same, but had better brakes, suspension, a bigger fuel tank and could cruise safely at 90mph all day. The thing about Sportys is that you can do almost anything to them. 1275 big bore kit, stage 4=120BHP No prob. Humongous apes, whitewalls, skulls everywhere, fine. As blacked out as a coal scuttle, absolutely. Heck Shadetree Surgeon is even building an Adventure Bike out of one. They are the most customisable bike on the Planet. Weak points? All Harleys with anodised forks are prone to corrosion on the sliders, the chromed engine cases are expensive to replace when they let go and bodged ECU upgrades can destroy the engines. Also, there's the 'Girls' bike prejudice from the Big Twin crowd.
Hi. 1st time here. For me the vibes are a part of the Harley experience. I've had an '88 1200 sportster and now a 2003 883C. They both are hard engine mounts. I dare say the rubber mounts easy the sharpness but not the entire rock & roll. Harleys aren't Harleys without the Hippy Hippy Shake.
updated electrics in1999, sealed wheel bearings in 2000, better break calipers in 2000, trap door on transmission up to 2003 (this is a big deal) , 50 lbs heavier in 2004. I'm a fan of these bikes and have owned about 10 of them and done thousands of miles on them , I can say that some of these motors are not very well balanced so you need to ride them up to speed to make sure its not excessively, "vibey" before you buy it , if you get a well balanced one you wont need the rubber mount . Buy one from 2000 to 2003 ,learn how to tune your carb, warm it up properly and you will have one of the best bikes you can get for your money.
When I was learning to ride, I too thought it was everything I wanted. It’s the simple classic looks and reminiscing of biking of yesteryears- but within a couple years that feeling diminished. If I was after a simple classic Harley, it would be something a bit larger. Will it be a classic - probably only if you want the Harley vibe on the cheap.
Great review! Hands down, one of the most inspiring, hence best, videos on Sportster. Currently stashing the money to get me my first Harle which always has been a dream bike. This video is a wonderful motivator, thx
I had a 2014 sportster 1200 sold it and bought later a 96 sporty 1200 and in my opinion its much more in line with what i think a sportster should be. Much lighter and the sound from a carbed sporty is sooooooo much better. Plus my 96 sporty always starts incredibly easy. Never any fuss. I have a 2000 Road King injected and im going to rip out the injection and get a good old carb for it!
I'm amused by your 1st Impressions of the Sportsters. That's not a critique, but a different view of American Iron from someone from a different part of the world. I've ridden Harleys since I was 14, I'm 63 now and have also ridden and owned Royal Enfields, Triumphs, Nortons as well as a bunch of Japanese models. What I'm getting at is Harleys are culture here and the "agricultural" aspect similar as Royal Enfield. The 2 oldest manufacturers in the world. They must be doing something right. We have a saying here in the US, and your intro made my point. There's never been a kid who grows up dreaming of owning a Kawasaki. Lol great channel and keep up the good work. Cheers.
I can see how they used prices would be quite high in Europe, but here in the states there is such an over supply of 5-15 year old HD's that prices are quite low. The key demographic for harley is aging out of the game and younger buyers are just not as keen on them. Particularly the sportster which is viewed as a starter bike in the US, they can be had for very little money and in most cases have been hardly ridden.
I think the appreciation in value is also thanks to the late-60's TV show, " Then Came Bronson". The show used 2 '68 XLH's and 1 '69 XLCH. I was a young teen and like the " sportier" size of the Sportsters back then. Got a line on a '69 XLCH in blue. But it comes at a high price...$8,500 USD! A lot of cash for an old bike that was a 4-speed until 1991. But dang, it looks like new and has the black script on the tank. Wish I had 10 grand to blow!
Great video. I've got a 2008 Sportster 883 XL. Interestingly and somewhat frustratingly, 2008 was a sort of "leftovers" year. A year where Harley just seem to use up old stock and parts from previous years. It's actually really quite difficult to find 2008 specific parts, you'll see a lot of part lists that go from '04 to '07 the '09 to present. Not impossible, I've managed just fine, but worth noting. I also have screaming eagles, when I got the bike it had Vance & Hines straight pipes, they were ridiculously loud. It was a lot of fun making people jump when starting the bike up, but after 20 minutes it did cause a headache. Swapped those for some factory pipes, but they were not quite enough. Now I have screaming eagles, but there is a bit of the baffle missing in one of the pipes, which causes the exhaust to rattle slightly, so it's a bit louder than the screaming eagles should be, and has what I like to call a "death rattle", it sounds like thunder and I love it. Which is why my bikes name is Mjölnir.
This is very interesting, thanks for sharing this info, Elliot🙌🏻🙌🏻 I was wondering what the standard pipes would sound like. It really does sound like thunder🌩
@@FreddieDobbs I have custom made baffles and you can add or remove the steel wool in the seperate chambers of the baffles and go from 80percent loud to 40percent 👍
I have had same 94 sportster for 30yrs it has never left me stranded.Also same drive belt,beats a chain any day.If you want to know what vibration really feels like get on an iron head and then you will know.
Great video. I have two Sportsters, a 883 and a 48. I love them, I was debating trading my 883 in for a HD Softail but the 883 is a great motorcycle for urban areas like where I am at in Seattle, I just couldn’t let it go.
Servicing is actually pretty cheap. I do my own bike services . My 2005 Fatboy costs the same as my 2019 interceptor to service and takes around the same sort of time to service. You are absolutely correct about appreciation of the value. I had a dyna for 19 years . When I traded it in at the dealer in 2006 to buy my fatboy the dealer gave me £700 more than the cost of the bike from himself 19 years before that. Best wishes from Phil in West Yorkshire .
That is INCREDIBLE! Only with a Harley could you get residuals like that!😳👌🏻👌🏻
I have a 1967 XLH Sportster I got in 1982 in high school A high is riding that old bike. A Harley Davidson is more than just a bike they have a soul and come a live when you ride one. Sportsters aer coming up in price 👀 Ironhead sportsters Have risen from $ 1,500 up to $6.000 new ones are a great Investment for the future
I have owned many, many different motorcycles, and now have had a 2008 XL1200C since 2011, and have had ridiculously low maintenance costs with it. Bonus: It runs better now than the day I bought it. I am forever a Sportster man.
I literally went outside and fell in love with my sportster after watching this ❤️👍
I went outside and something is missing...Sportster. Soon I hope so. 😊
Hi Freddie, I picked up my Custom Sportster Forty Eight yesterday, riding over 200-miles in gale force winds and rain to get it home. Ten miles felt like a thousand compared to my Multistrada. I stopped at every service station to give my body a rest (and fuel up). Every inch of me was sore and ached. And yet I woke up today and couldn't wait to get back on it. It's a 'soul bike'. I've never ridden anything with more personality, more cool, more soul than this. It spits, crackles and bangs. Gets compliments every time we stop. It looks and FEELS special. The handling sucks, the suspension is shocking and I've never been as uncomfortable in my life. And yet I can't imagine I'll ever sell it. I am well and truly in love with Sportster 48. Everyone should own one at some point in their life. There's nothing else like it.
As a fellow 48 owner I feel your pain and your joy
I just bought mine a week ago. My first Harley.
1200, carburated, no rubber engine mounts. I'm in love like no other of my ten previous bikes.
I'm a little afraid to modify it or let it almost stock.
And I'm so happy to finally enjoy the ride without going fast. Thats what I was looking for. Becoming wiser, but still having fun.
so true an original clasic. Im in love with this bike .❤
Got a 2003 hugger 883 in the garage next to a low rider ST. Love the solid mount & carb. Simplicity.
I've always said, the reason Harley riders are so good in bar fights is all the practice they get fighting their bikes. Much respect to all the Harley riders cause they work hard and their bikes are beautiful to look at and listen to.
I know this is 2 years to late but I love this comment lol
I put old school 26"Buck horn bars on my 2004 1200c. Changed my narrow 21" front rim to a 3.5 in wide 21" black with laced wire spokes. and added a fatter 21" tire. Lowered rear .5 to 1 inch. Running black taped up Vance Hines long exhaust. Running Vintage Classic Harley insignias on the tank and side covers. Leather fringed Saddle bags. Basically mine is a semi bobber. Harley knows that the Sportster is basically a blank canvas and most buyers at least in the past would be customizing them to their liking. In the 60s the Sportster was Hells Angels bike of Choice..
I've got the 2003 100 year anniversary sporty. I find no issue with vibrations and enjoy the ease of the carb. It's a nimble little beast that you can throw around compared to the scout. I rode the scout and felt like I had nothing between my legs. I want to hear and feel my ride! To each their own though. You know what you are buying with the Harley, an evo engine that will go on forever and a highly customisable bike in comparison to the competition.
That loud noise and the shake, that's normal it's so you know the engine is running. Its the best-sounding Harley ever produced, thanks to its one-of-a-kind, four individual camshafts, it sounds like an old V8 buick rumbling down the road. If you want a Honda this isn't right for you. The Sportster is one of a kind motorcycle experience. There is nothing like it on the road today.
I’m 36, never ridden a motorbike in my life. But I listen to everything you say about them because of the passion you show. Always great vids Freddie (and Monika)
That means a lot, thank you so much for saying so, Ben🙂
@@FreddieDobbs is a great influence! Keep watching and you might end up with a bike haha after his lovely review of the bobber I ended up with one lol
I highly recommend that you get on and ride motorcycle. Any kind. 50mph on a sweeping country road in the wind is about the best feeling ever.
Well live free and give it a try why don’t ya!
The longer you wait is the less time in life you have to ride... Whatever it takes.. Make it happen
The Sportster is a classic, there are so many of them parts will be available for years. A reliable form of transportation.
A chuckle escapes me, Freddie, when I hear you describe the '07 Sportster as "shaking" all over, and "nothing light about it at all". Actually, the "light" part of it is, as compared with the other models in the Harley line. Such as the Street Glide, Road Glide, and all of the' Touring models ' in the Harley line up. Even the Low Rider and other' Cruisers' in the line up are noticeably heavier than the Sportster. Though the Sportster did gain considerable weight over the decades, it's still the lightest of the cruiser bikes Harley made. ( 'cruiser', hmm, actually, the Sportster was the factory 'flat track hot rod' for decades from the late 50's, 'till present day a Sportster derivitive is still in ' hot competition '. And they were the ' world's fastest production bike' for decades.
And as for the "shaking", well, you ain't felt nothing yet! You should try out a 2003, or before model, to experience the true heritage of the venerable Sportster! Then you would realize that 'mostly just the motor is shaking' on the rubber mounted versions, from 2004 and up. To appreciate the rubber mounted ones, you must try out a 'solid mount' 2003 or before. It will 'ROCK YOUR WORLD' ! But remember as you go rattling down the road on a solid mounted one, that we loved every butt numbing second we rode them, around town, and cross country! There was never anything that made you love a bike more than a well tuned Sportster. BTW, if you put quiet mufflers on them, they run hotter than anything ever should. And it just hurts like hell to feel them burning up like that. Besides, that 'particular noise', is all part of the mystique. (to keep your hearing, use ear plugs) As for everyone else, well, FTW ! Now you're getting the Sportster attitude !
Happy to hear you so excited with them. Carry it on for another generation to enjoy.
Rubber down,
Throttle up !
This is why we subscribe to certain RUclipsrs! You feel like your part of an exclusive club, you just can't find quality like this on main TV anymore! Great video guys ✌
Thank you so much Simon, that’s incredibly kind of you to say so🙂
So much of what you said about choosing character in a classic motorbike holds true for our air-cooled Boonies. It’s not a choice made from logic or by the specs. Thankfully so many of us appreciate the things that make motorcycling fun that aren’t by the numbers.
My bike is a 2004 1200C. 44k miles. Just basic maintenence of brakes, clutch, fluids and tires...thats it. Cheap to maintain.
With 2004 also the trap door was removed - so servicing the gearbox without splitting the case is impossible from there on.
Owned a 1996 Sportster Sport and now a 2004 Sportster Custom (both 1200cc) the vibration wasn’t that bad on the rigid mounts, but the passengers footpegs where still mounted on the swingarm which made long distances rides especially over bad roads a bit challenging for the passenger 😇.
Sportster engines are extremely tough and when I worked for HD I‘ve seen engines with 200k miles that never had been overhauled on the bottom end and still run fine!
For me the Sportster is the HD to go for, because it has the most reliable engine and if you follow its origins back it relates to the first 4cam engine in the JD in 1924…
So a legacy that no other bike will ever have!
So glad I found this channel, iam sure there isn't any other RUclips channels that express so much passion for motorcycles. Iam looking for a new bike and the sportster has sucked me in. Agree with everything you said , it's all about character and style with this bike along with it being an investment. I do believe I will be riding one in 2023 !
I have had many bike but there is nothing like a HARLEY I got a 2006 Sporter custom 1200. And love it won't ever sell it ❤😂
Got a 2004 I bought new as an 883. Went to the dealership with $16 k cash. Left with the bike and half my money. Ffwd to now, I put mini apes on it, a hammer 1275 kit with all the fixins, upgraded suspension, and this bike is as fun and comfy as I need to go all day. Mine doesn’t shake or vibrate it’s super smooth so idk what all that is about. I’m 62 yrs old and ride all day with no issue. She will be 20 yrs old next year and so far haven’t found another bike that is better for me. The bike is bulletproof, that’s why they didn’t change the engine for so many decades. It may not be for everyone but it’s right for me. Love my bike. Xena @ The XL Forum.
You phrased it PERFECTLY!!! I just got off my first Harley Davidson. A XL Sportster x 48. It is Amazing........After 44 years of motorcycle experience, I now know why people are so enamored with the Harley Davidson motorcycle.
I’m telling you - I’ll get my license this year and next fall I’m taking a week in Tenerife and trying out as many bikes as I can. Looks like heaven !
You’ll love every second of it!🙂🏝🤘🏻🏍
It's not about the speed or agility with a Harley. it's about the feeling you get riding one. The Sportster is like a cool two wheeled tractor that will go anywhere and will do 100mph on the straightaway.
Freddie, this was an honest and objective evaluation of the Sportster. Well done, man! Me, I've owned *four* Sportsters: #3 (1996 883) and #4 (1998 1200) are in the garage right now. #2 was an '05 "rubbermount" that maybe I shouldn't have sold. #1 was an '86 (first year Evo). I love ''em. I *thought* the rubbermount would be an order of magnitude smoother than my solid-mount '86, but it was not. In fact, I think my '96 883 is the smoothest of them all. You did touch on what is probably the most noticeable thing about Sportsters: they're agricultural in nature. But you know what...people *like* old agricultural machinery. Hence the appeal. A friend of mine used to ride a 750 Honda Shadow, which was very similar in design to the Sportster. On a trip, we (briefly) traded bikes. The Honda was...nice...but soul-less. A nice bike, but I wouldn't own one. He got off of my Sportster (my '05) and scowled, "That thing is like driving an old pickup truck!" He did not mean it in a good way. But I like old pickup trucks, too.
The thing about Sportsters is that you will NEVER find one that's stock. Everybody modifies..."personalizes" them to their own taste. Almost everyone puts louder mufflers on them. Not me, I like 'em quiet. In closing, you figured it out: You *cannot* compare a Sportster to any modern motorcycle - because it will compare unfavorably. The Sportster is timeless - it's in a class by itself. And you either "get" it, or you don't. I do. I love them. Great video!
Hi Freddie, as someone who enjoyed having a Sportster for a little while, I loved it and even within the hierarchy of HD riders, Sportsters are considered a group of their own. I grew into a Road King so I'm still a HD rider but I still miss the Sporty. You don't have to wait for them to be a modern classic, for the most part they have considered that for the past 30 or 40 years but people love them and as you found out, they have a character all of their own. Stay healthy and ride safe and have fun!
I agree, the HD Sportster is a collectible. It always was but that will have been given a boost by the recent demise of the air-cooled classic.
Great video, I'm riding a Sportster 1200R since 2004 and for me it's a very nice and high quality bike,since the start in 2004 nothing broke down or is getting in a bad state.
It's not only character which makes these bikes different than the rest, it's also quality. It's not the most fastest or roadholding bike but it's easy competing with many other bikes. Mine isn't used for hoping from cafe to cafe but for long trips around Europe and it never let me down.
Thanks for your nice video.
I had a 2006 1300R in black and orange. It was a excellent bike, 73,000 miles and never skipped a beat.
Great to hear from an owner of an older model, thanks Marinus!🙂
Nice, just bought a 1200R 2008, selling my Fatboy 2002 as it's too big for the twisties. I also have a Buell X1 and a Triumph Thunderbird 900.
Hi Freddie like your style of presentation . I have owned my Sportster for 4 years now and its a 2009 Nightster, the day I picked it up it rained hard all the way home over the Cotswold hills, but I had a grin on my face for the entire journey home and even yesterday when I took the bike out at 6.30 am I still smiled as l fired her up and rode up the A38 with the cold air in my face (and bugs). The Harley can get me to work in 10 minutes if I choose to , but its a Harley so I look for routes that make me stay in the saddle longer and try to spend as much time enjoying the characteristics of the iconic V twin as possible.
Keep your GS1250's and Tiger 900's (The Range Rovers of bikes) but as they say horses for courses. Keep up the great work ....Somewhere in the Cotswolds.
I just bought my first Sportster after having had Hondas for 15 years. I found a 2012 XL1200C Sportster Custom. It only had 1904 miles on it. Immaculate. Yes it shakes a bit…..part of the charm. It also came with V&H exhaust. Louder than the screaming eagle pipes. Oh well. I paid less than $7K USD. And I got it from a local HD dealer. I consider the Sportster a true classic. I hope you enjoyed it. It’s everything a HD should be for the type of bike that it is.
After years of daydreaming I finally bought a 2003 Harley Sportster and it's being delivered tomorrow..I can't wait!! I'm sure it'll shake me to bits but I don't care because it's my dream bike lol 😂😂 Have a great Sunday! Love your videos! 🙏🙏
FANTASTIC!!! Today’s the day it arrives- I bet you didn’t sleep last night!😀. Huge congrats on your purchase and enjoy every second!🙂🤘🏻🏍
Love seeing that scenery in the background.
up to 2003 they are 15-20 kilos lighter because of the lack of rubber mounting. Also the frame is much stiffer. Enjoy all of them !
While I'm not a fan of the Harley culture, his appreciation for the bike has caught my attention for a Sportster. I never saw it like he see it.
The one thing that's so consistent with your videos - Your Enthusiasm for what you do!!!...Love that you get excited about your passions. You are right - HD owners do keep them clean...maintenance is a different questions....but heck I have a GS Adventure - it hasn't been clean since the day I bought it...haha!!! - Great job as usual - spot on with the history....fantastic!!!
I’ve owned numerous Sportsters and just love them. I figured you’d enjoy this, beautiful bike you’re testing.
On repair cost I would say geography makes a huge difference. In Wisconsin here where I live there’s Harley dealers everywhere. Most people who own bikes either fix it themselves or have other Harley owners do it. They are everywhere here, Sportster are a dime a dozen. My 2006 1200R I paid $2,800 for and sold it for $3,000 3 years later. That was 5 years ago. I can buy the same bike for probably $4,000. That bike had 73,000 trouble free miles.
I’m considering buying a Triumph Street Scrambler this spring. For us in the States we are concerned because Triumphs are rare and expensive to work on, the opposite. Harley parts are available everywhere here and are dirt cheap, used parts are very inexpensive and there’s used custom parts available everywhere in peoples garages. Triumph parts are nowhere to be found. Geography makes such a difference. I bet it’s pretty easy to find Triumphs and Triumph parts in your location? I bet working on Triumphs is pretty affordable by you too? I’d love to own a Triumph I think. Thanks for the video!
But….here in Wisconsin, Harley’s are like pickup trucks around here. Everyone’s got one. 😀. But that’s the reason I decided not to get a Harley. My ‘94 Yamaha Virago is pretty much maintenance free.
But the 883 Sportster and the XR750 are the best when it comes to low maintenance. Rode a 883 from Alabama to Alaska and back. Not one problem.
@@ajkolb2746 yeah, they are everywhere here, I’m ready for something different this spring. Like I say, probably a Triumph or Moto Guzzi.
This is really interesting because in the UK, Triumphs are everywhere. It’s incredibly easy to get parts for them and they’re easy to work on.
I checked the prices of new Harleys in the US vs the UK and it’s eye opening how much more expensive they are in the UK!
2005 XL1200R with a ton of mods is bar none the most grins per mile I’ve ever had in 45 yrs of moto cycling ! Indestructible motor, very easy to service, cruise all day at 70 at 3000 rpm. A brilliant all rounder. And if you want more power to deal with modern traffic no problem.. Everyone should have a go on a decently upgraded sportster.
I have a 2006 Sportster 1200 that I've owned for over 10 years. Based off the knowledge of owning one for that long I would say your assessment is mostly correct in the video. I disagree on a few things though. My sportster has been very cheap to maintain. I'm mechanically inclined so I don't pay dealership shop fees, but even if I weren't it has hardly needed any repairs. The only major repair I've done is replacing the clutch. All of these sportsters come with a ticking time bomb in the clutch...the stupid riveted spring plate which will fail if it hasn't yet, sometimes catastrophically. I only had to put new clutch plates in mine but sometimes you have to replace the clutch basket too depending on the damage when it fails. Other than that, I've literally only had to do normal fluid changes and batteries. These bikes are very reliable. I also disagree about the vibration on the rubber mount models. They shake A LOT at idle but once you get moving they smooth out nicely. I've ridden a few rigid mount sportys and yes, those things will rattle your fillings out. I also wouldn't hesitate to get a carburated model. I prefer my carburated bike. It hasn't given me a single problem and if it did it's easy to take it off and rebuild it.
My father in law has a 2004 1200 sportster and it's a beauty. Carburetor Harley engine just sounds incredible. 👍
I thought until now that I was the only person that thought Sportsters will start to increase in value soon! Bought my 1200 Custom near the end of last year. Like nothing I've ridden in the last 18 years! You summed up exactly how it rides. It love riding it and it's character and isn't that really what riding a bike is all about? Loved this video, feels a refreshing change to many others so have decided to subscribe to see more. Thank you.
Delighted you’ve subscribed, thank you James! I agree; I know there are a lot of Sportsters around because they were so popular, but I see them slowly and steadily climbing in value👌🏻👌🏻
There are so many Harley mechanics here in the U.S. that unless you need something major done, upkeep cost isn't that bad. I have a 2011 Sportster, and I bought it just because over here you can find parts for it until I die. My first bike was an 83 Honda Nighthawk and I've Frankensteined the crap out of it just because I can't find parts. I love the show! It has gotten me back into riding and wanting a Continental GT.
The 1200s are quick with carb models when rejetted and the exhaust is swapped. The exhaust alone makes a big ass difference in performance from stock pipes.
I can't imagine how good it must sound in person. Videos,no matter how good the equipment is never doing justice to the exhaust sounds!
I have an 03 883H (1275). My wife an 02 1200C. My son's have an 89&94. Much love for the sportster.
I just bought an 2007 XL1200L in Black with 6408 Km which is 3981 Miles. After watching your video I am so glad I did! Will get it tomorrow. Looking forward to riding it. Thank you..
I love the way you demonstrate the the rock and roll on this bike…..You either love ‘em or hate ‘em…..For me the Sporty is a great way to find that out….the rumble and the roll of the Harley is what makes them so unique, they will lose that completely with the electric…its interesting to see how if they lose the trademark of noise, rawness and badass…and produce these new machines that are quiet, sophisticated and modern, where does that place the brand….
Exactly my thoughts!⚡️ After riding the Livewire; it’s a good bike but has no character and no bloodline/similarities with any other Harley. Will Harley make electric traditional old school styled cruisers, or completely move away from their trade mark styling- like they did with the Livewire.
@@FreddieDobbs Electric motorcycles are still far from being viable. For a city commuter they are already viable and there are plenty of options for that, but for a cruiser like a classic HD that people usually buy them to travel hundreds of miles on the road, these kind of bikes are still going to have an internal combustion engine for the foreseeable future.
I have a 2000 model 883 which I've owned for about 12 years now, and it gets ridden every day. I wouldn't know what the mechanic costs because I never need one. Nothing ever seems to go wrong with it - well, when I first bought it, it was wet-sumping. There's a spring with a synthetic rubber ball thing on one end of it that lives behind the double ended nut thing the oil filter screws onto. I replaced that spring & rubber thingy with new ones and fixed that problem. I had to replace the starter motor solenoid last year, and now I need to do the fork seals. That's the only work it's needed, apart from fluid & filter changes, in the time that I've owned it. The spring & check ball for the oil system (genuine HD spares) came to about $12 AU if I remember rightly, and there were 5 springs in the bag! I think I won't be needing to ever buy more of those. The starter motor repair kit was about 30 bucks I think.
I do my own servicing. Hydraulic lifters mean no valve clearances to do. Compared to many of the other bikes I've owned it's really quite a simple job to look after it. I can't really say I noticed the vibration, maybe it's a 1200 thing. I used to have a '68 Triumph TR6R that vibrated more. Now that HD aren't making them anymore I can see them becoming more collectable. My daughter can worry about that, I don't plan on selling it.
I absolutely loved my tuned (stage 4 - pipes, air, tuner,cams), straight through piped 1200 iron sportster.
Bits fell off it a lot due to the vibrations, it was car alarm setting off loud but it was bloody lovely.
Always made you feel amazing riding it and although my thruxton is nice I really want an old sportster again.
Great video. Those foot pegs are the same stock pegs that were fitted to my new 2015 street bob. HD know most people spend a fortune swapping pegs, mirrors, saddles, pipes etc so tend to use plain bits on their bikes. My wife’s got a 2010 883XL and she’s just under 5 feet tall, so perfect bike for smaller riders. Also the 883 and 1200 are exactly the same bike / engine and it’s not a massively expensive job to have a big bore conversion to turn 883 into 1200. It’s a favourite base build for choppers etc 👍
Forgot to mention one thing you may have forgotten as well. In addition to best looks and presence, the 1200 Evo propels the Sportsters from stand-still to legal speeds like few other bike. A parting comment on exhausts, the Street Canons silencers from Screamin’ Eagle give just the right and unique American sound.
That’s a very good point- it can really get a move on!💪🏼 Very useful tip on the silencers, thank you🙂
I own a 06 883 upgraded to 1200 and maintenance is cheap cos it’s hardly ever broken, mine doesn’t shake very much and the sound is intoxicating 😂 the Sporty is the best Harley ever made. It was the biggest mistake the motor company did to end the Sportster line , these new “sportsters” don’t deserve the name of the LEGEND !
I’ve owned my sportster 48 2011 since new taken it to Rome and Barcelona and has never let me down,I recently went to Kawasaki dealer to buy a engine gasket for my zx7r and for 1 second considered trading it in for an new z900rs 50th anniversary,then i looked at the price €14,000 made love my Harley even more.Riding to Nice on it next month.Happy days.
Proud owner of a hd 2014 sportster xl 1200 cb. The most beautiful thing is that i’m 44, this is my first bike, and i am still taking my license (1 more month), and you were spot on on what makes someone want to get a hd. Or a sporster. You feel the charecter of the bike. You feel the tradition. You feel what is to have pleasure of riding. Not for the speed. Not for the thriling sensation of dynamics. But for the raw pleasure of the machine. Kudos for your review, Freddie. 👏🏻👏🏻
Couldn’t agree more, Marco!🙂 The best of luck with your test!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
Light nimble, simple and easy to work on. They are the epitome of motorcycling.
Light? Nimble?
Well three out of 4 aint bad (not light)
I have bought a 2006 as, essentially, my daily driver. A good aftermarket rear shock will make your day.
Hello, A fine episode of yours. I wondered when you’d come to a Sportster. I had two BMWs (1978-1980) and a Triumph (1960) - yes I am classic bike fan. But in 2020, age 60, I came across the Forty Eight, a brand new one of the last imported in Europe. 18 months later I have ridden 19,000 km and love it to bits. Quite a few parts broke, belt guard (twice), air filter mount, rear light, brake light and its switch, … To my eyes the 48 is the best looking Harley of them all. I bought it for 12,000€ and their value is currently rocketing … you really nailed the spirits of the bike, its presence (current Bonnevilles and Indians are no match) and huge appeal. Wherever I went, people of all ages react positively … it “speaks” to them, and to me ! If I can, I’ll never part from it.
This is a superb insight, thank you for sharing🙂🙌🏻
I'm riding my third sportster, a used 67, then a 05 1200 custom that was totaled by a deer or I'd still have it. I now have a 2016 sportster Roadster and will keep it forever! They are nearly bullet proof and very easy to maintain your self. Not expensive if you don't go to a dealership! Plenty of small shops will do the work for you if you choose not to do it yourself! I have never had a problem with any of mine and only need to do fluid changes and small adjustments to keep it in better than new running order! I also have a BMW R1200R but I ride the sportster most often!
Harley's are all about smiles per mile, they're an acquired taste but once that taste is acquired you will be hooked, one thing you can guarantee is a Harley will hold its value, keep it long enough and you are unlikely to lose money so if you want a 1200 Sportster Freddie then buy one when you get back, you won't regret it.
OMG the paint job on and the styling on this Sporster is glorious!!!!
I still own 2016 Roadster - the very first of its kind (without ABS as should be). It has been Cafe’d up with Dart, Screaming Eagle plugs and cables, etc. Incredibly reliable, easy to maintain, very easy to work on modify if you want. If there is one bike that is a keeper, this is it.
Hi, F&M! When it comes to Harleys,it's all about passion,not common sense,pretty spot on conclusions! Keep up the good job!
All the new bikes get more and more refined .
I do believe that old Harley's and same goes for old ducatis in my opinion will hold their value very well and or appreciate , no doubt about it !
love vintage sportsters I have 2 of them. basic and no nonsense bells and whistle's
Great video by Monika and obviously you Freddie!! This Sportster range is going to be like the VW Beetle and camper for fans for years to come I'm sure. With all the specialist workshops and stockists.
Hello Freddie, thank you for posting the video. I passed my UK motorcycle test in 1980 on a 1978 Honda CB250N, a red and blue one, as soon as I had my full licence I traded the Honda in against a 1977 Triumph TR7RV 'Tiger 750'. To me that Tiger was my first real motorcycle, I then bought a brand new 1981 T140E, then a 1977 T160V, then a 1983 TSX 750. Then a 1980 Moto Guzzi V50, then a 1980 Laverda 1200TS, then a Benelli 900 Sei, which incidentally I still own. I also had a 1980 Moto Guzzi SP1000.
In 2011 after a break from motorcycling I really fancied buying a Harley-Davidson Sportster, so I bought a brand new XL883N 'Iron' in black denim livery. I had looked at the 2011 Bonneville's, the Moto Guzzi V7's as I was looking fdor a machine with character and the Iron wone me over eventhough I was originally intending to buy a Forty-Eight, I didn't like the forward mounted foot contrils on that, the Iron had mid controls that suited my riding style. Over the years I've done so much to that Iron and eleven years later I still own it. You are right about the Sportster, it isn't like any other motorcycle, it shakes, it doesn't handle as well as my previous machines, but the Sportster Evolution motor is bomb proof.
There as thousands of aftermarket parts available for the Sportster, it's the most customisable motorcycle on the planet, you can turn the basic stock Sporty into anything that you want. I installed a pair of Python slip-on mufflers and you can hear me coming from a mile away. You alway's get noticed on a Sporty by other road users, from cyclists to car drivers to truck drivers, they give me an admiring glance and a reassuring nod or a smile.
This is great to hear! I genuinely didn’t realise how strong a following specifically the Sportster model has- people absolutely love them!
Pre-2004 Sportsters is where it's at. They're extremely scrappy hotrods... nearly 100 lbs lighter and they don't shake, they literally "JUMP" up and down when they're running. Get them above 3000 rpm and they'll take off after a Stage 2. The restrictor plate under the air cleaner, a set of exhaust, and some cams; the bike is literally 80hp/80ft lb. and 483 lbs with nearly 40 degrees of lean. It's night and day different from a rubber mount, and far more spirited. Side note, but Carbs are also extremely reliable. I haven't messed with the carb on my 98 1200 since I re-jetted it in 1998... still runs flawlessly.
Im a big sportster fan. Iron 883, 1200 they are fun and not to ride slow
we had a Harley Sportster 2005 for13 years we bought it 6 months old took it too Cyprus with us where we relocated for 12 years sold it there for what we paid in UK for it it was a brilliant bike and nothing was replaced only a battery and a differnt back wheel
Nice ride! I've got a 2006 XL1200C that I picked up a few years ago for $2300 USD......has 40k miles on it but wouldn't know it.....has all the goodies, screamin eagle stage 1 intake, dynojet carb kit with thunderslide, santee 50 cal shotgun exhaust, and even tho I wouldn't want to take it on a super long road trip, it's a fine ride for around here! She's quick, nimble, and reliable.....and tho I enjoy imported bikes as well, nothing compares to the heavy duty, big, rustic feel of a harley!
I think you are right on about the prices holding up well, I see 1 - 2 year old Irons and 48's selling for what they cost new in the dealers ( admittedly a Harley dealer ). 883 Iron Ideal for Monica, and you could always borrow it .
I have a harley because i wanted a sportster. Had it for 2 years and 10 thousand miles, its not stock anymore, dropping a 1200 bore kit in it right now. Its cool.
As an owner of a 2001 Sportster 1200S I really enjoyed the video. No problem of vibes up to 70mph on the solid mount carb version and none of that shaking itself to bits. Those loud exhausts don't help, the standard pipes sound fine on my bike. I love riding around the country roads but after 30 miles on the back my son was in agony and never got on it again. I'm sure the backrest made all the difference for Monika. As you said a bike full of character and will only go up in value. Cheers for the great content.
I found two pleasant surprises today on my recent purchase of a used 883 which was converted to 1200 cc. I got 50 MPG so I can go 150+ miles on the 3.3-gallon tank, and at 70 mph there is a sweet spot in little to no vibration. Perfect for the interstate. It has so much torque it can be a bit scary taking off.
I was on a straight line roll in first gear, low in the rpm's and then quickly turned the throttle full on, and I had one shift into second, and what it seemed like was in two seconds I was doing 50 MPH. Not so bad. That surprised me. No other mods, just a 1200 top end from Harley.
i have a mint 2004 1200 sportster custom, ive been riding for 30 years and its my fav bike ever
I rode and 84 Iron Head Sportster for 23 years. I have a 99 Harley Softail Custom now. A little more comfort for my 82 year old body. LOL. I started on a 1942 "45" Flat Head back in 1955 when I was 14.
its not out dated , its how a real bike should be
Greetings from Florida, USA. I have owned many, many motorcycles. I love and enjoy the freedom of riding. I just recently bought a 2006 XL1200C with 18,500 miles. She’s super clean and the previous owner took really care of her which is a benefit for me. I also own a 2004 Road King and a Vespa Scooter. Like I said before I really enjoy riding. Take care and enjoy your Sportster 👍.
Thanks Freddie and Momica - great video and awesome audio. I see the mirrors still come with text that says "Objects in mirrors are less noisy than you".
In 1993, I returned to motorcycling after a ten year break. I was either going to get a nice used GPz900R (like the 750(?) version Tom Cruise rides in Top Gun) or Sportster.
I ended up with a 1990 883 which I kept for 18 months and about 30,000 miles before trading to a bigger Harley. That would have been a newer 1200 Sportster but then a nice used FXRS-SP turned up at my local dealer, so I had that instead.
Just recently, I met a couple of enthusiastic Sportster owners at a local bike meet. So I think the Sportster has a particular niche for folk who like Harleys but don't want a Big Twin. Hence I think you may be right about residual values.
Your bike looking almost perfect.... only thing I think is...get the original mirrors...
Put the factory pipes back on and simply knock the plugs out. Perrrrfect.
Excellent Sunday morning viewing !
Really glad you enjoyed it, Mike🙂
Hey Freddie, I own a 2012 Nightster (since 2019) which is, as you will know, a 1200 Sportster, and I absolutely love it. Nothing is dripping off, it´s reliable and very fun to ride, even on long trips. As you basically sit on a motor with wheels it develops quite an amount of torque. You´ll need a good sports car to beat me at the traffic lights :) I love the shaking a lot, one smart dude said riding a Sportster is for the tough ones, and yes, this is true. It doesn´t get any more basic than that, and that´s the appeal, as you said in the video.
After having owned an 87 XL883 for 35 years I agree, except for cost of servicing which has been cheap
I've just bought my 3rd Harley and have had sports bikes, green laners, commuters, cruisers, adventure bikes, you name it ive had it. Eveytime I sell a Harley I swear it'll be my last, and here I am again buying another!!! Theyre not the quickest, dont handle the best and dont stop very well, but they have a certain something that keeps me wanting more. You can't beat a Harley for looking and sounding cool as f*@k!
So so so true!
Fantastic review Freddie of this beautiful Bike 🚴
Suits you m8 and love it 😍
Great filming Monica
As a former owner of two Sportsters, a '96 and a '2014 (plus a Dyna which is like an overgrown Sportster) I feel reasonable qualified to comment. The '96, an 883 was good up to 75mph, but over that? The 2014 Superlow 1200 largely looked the same, but had better brakes, suspension, a bigger fuel tank and could cruise safely at 90mph all day. The thing about Sportys is that you can do almost anything to them. 1275 big bore kit, stage 4=120BHP No prob. Humongous apes, whitewalls, skulls everywhere, fine. As blacked out as a coal scuttle, absolutely. Heck Shadetree Surgeon is even building an Adventure Bike out of one. They are the most customisable bike on the Planet. Weak points? All Harleys with anodised forks are prone to corrosion on the sliders, the chromed engine cases are expensive to replace when they let go and bodged ECU upgrades can destroy the engines. Also, there's the 'Girls' bike prejudice from the Big Twin crowd.
Fantastic insight, thank you for sharing!🙂
Hi. 1st time here. For me the vibes are a part of the Harley experience. I've had an '88 1200 sportster and now a 2003 883C. They both are hard engine mounts. I dare say the rubber mounts easy the sharpness but not the entire rock & roll. Harleys aren't Harleys without the Hippy Hippy Shake.
I have a 2006 XL 883 Custom. It’s carbureted. It’s noisy. It shakes. And it’s perfect.
updated electrics in1999, sealed wheel bearings in 2000, better break calipers in 2000, trap door on transmission up to 2003 (this is a big deal) , 50 lbs heavier in 2004.
I'm a fan of these bikes and have owned about 10 of them and done thousands of miles on them , I can say that some of these motors are not very well balanced so you need to ride them up to speed to make sure its not excessively, "vibey" before you buy it , if you get a well balanced one you wont need the rubber mount . Buy one from 2000 to 2003 ,learn how to tune your carb, warm it up properly and you will have one of the best bikes you can get for your money.
Sportsters rule! Good and truthful presentation.
When I was learning to ride, I too thought it was everything I wanted. It’s the simple classic looks and reminiscing of biking of yesteryears- but within a couple years that feeling diminished. If I was after a simple classic Harley, it would be something a bit larger. Will it be a classic - probably only if you want the Harley vibe on the cheap.
Great review! Hands down, one of the most inspiring, hence best, videos on Sportster. Currently stashing the money to get me my first Harle which always has been a dream bike. This video is a wonderful motivator, thx
I had a 2014 sportster 1200 sold it and bought later a 96 sporty 1200 and in my opinion its much more in line with what i think a sportster should be. Much lighter and the sound from a carbed sporty is sooooooo much better. Plus my 96 sporty always starts incredibly easy. Never any fuss.
I have a 2000 Road King injected and im going to rip out the injection and get a good old carb for it!
I had an 86 Sporster. Good dependable bike. But I like my 2004 1200c much better.
I'm amused by your 1st Impressions of the Sportsters. That's not a critique, but a different view of American Iron from someone from a different part of the world. I've ridden Harleys since I was 14, I'm 63 now and have also ridden and owned Royal Enfields, Triumphs, Nortons as well as a bunch of Japanese models. What I'm getting at is Harleys are culture here and the "agricultural" aspect similar as Royal Enfield. The 2 oldest manufacturers in the world. They must be doing something right. We have a saying here in the US, and your intro made my point. There's never been a kid who grows up dreaming of owning a Kawasaki. Lol great channel and keep up the good work. Cheers.
I can see how they used prices would be quite high in Europe, but here in the states there is such an over supply of 5-15 year old HD's that prices are quite low. The key demographic for harley is aging out of the game and younger buyers are just not as keen on them. Particularly the sportster which is viewed as a starter bike in the US, they can be had for very little money and in most cases have been hardly ridden.
Freddie you hit the nail on the head with this review ! Perfect , I’d love to have one in my garage for sure !
Great video, just one thing Freddie, if the bike is a 105th Anniversary model, doesn't that make it a 2008 year bike?
I think the appreciation in value is also thanks to the late-60's TV show, " Then Came Bronson". The show used 2 '68 XLH's and 1 '69 XLCH. I was a young teen and like the " sportier" size of the Sportsters back then. Got a line on a '69 XLCH in blue. But it comes at a high price...$8,500 USD! A lot of cash for an old bike that was a 4-speed until 1991. But dang, it looks like new and has the black script on the tank. Wish I had 10 grand to blow!
Great video.
I've got a 2008 Sportster 883 XL. Interestingly and somewhat frustratingly, 2008 was a sort of "leftovers" year.
A year where Harley just seem to use up old stock and parts from previous years.
It's actually really quite difficult to find 2008 specific parts, you'll see a lot of part lists that go from '04 to '07 the '09 to present.
Not impossible, I've managed just fine, but worth noting.
I also have screaming eagles, when I got the bike it had Vance & Hines straight pipes, they were ridiculously loud.
It was a lot of fun making people jump when starting the bike up, but after 20 minutes it did cause a headache.
Swapped those for some factory pipes, but they were not quite enough.
Now I have screaming eagles, but there is a bit of the baffle missing in one of the pipes, which causes the exhaust to rattle slightly, so it's a bit louder than the screaming eagles should be, and has what I like to call a "death rattle", it sounds like thunder and I love it.
Which is why my bikes name is Mjölnir.
This is very interesting, thanks for sharing this info, Elliot🙌🏻🙌🏻
I was wondering what the standard pipes would sound like. It really does sound like thunder🌩
@@FreddieDobbs I have custom made baffles and you can add or remove the steel wool in the seperate chambers of the baffles and go from 80percent loud to 40percent 👍
The xl was my first bike those sporty’s are bulletproof
I have had same 94 sportster for 30yrs it has never left me stranded.Also same drive belt,beats a chain any day.If you want to know what vibration really feels like get on an iron head and then you will know.
Thanks a lot for all your videos! Best description of this bike !👌🏍
Great video. I have two Sportsters, a 883 and a 48. I love them, I was debating trading my 883 in for a HD Softail but the 883 is a great motorcycle for urban areas like where I am at in Seattle, I just couldn’t let it go.
Thanks Langley!🙂
I get that 100%; the Sportsters are a very good usable size for lane splitting and city riding in general👌🏻🌆