The last scene where kratos see himself as a hero of peace was so good. It finally completes the we must be better and finally breaks the circle in which kratos is seen as a monster.
Kratos made his own decisions regardless of prophecy, even the first mural almost indicating Kratos would die was not necessarily correct. Prophecys don't matter.
The story was rushed trash, made a mockery of Norse mythology, retconned characters for the sake of “diversity”, turned a cool female character into a Mary Sue, and the entire premise is about how masculinity is toxic. Don’t believe me? Just read the lead narrative’s Tweets. Now that these tropes have become comically indefensible and people aren’t having it anymore, the best we can hope for is the devs wake-up. Loki spin-off would be dumb. They should make two more Kratos games and then Loki comes back jacked and a badass instead of a whiny bitch.
@@whitelivesmatter7709 Listen, I believe the path that the Santa Monica studios have chosen is way better, than this "childish" gaming style of just killing everybody without cause. Here they have focused more on Kratos and how he evolved as a Person, and that he learned from his failures and tries not to repeat them or pass them on to his child. If you prefer the old versions than just play them, God of War would've been very boring if he just did the same thing over and over again in different pantheons.
@@screaminpain Are you trying to say that kratos was not a deep character but a mindless killer? because if so you are sorely mistaken. He didn't kill everybody without cause and if you don't believe me then play the games or watch a video breaking it down for you.
Actually the murals in the first game and in Ironwood, are depicting Kratos death. If you go back and look at the very last panel of Kratos mural at the end of the game, you can see the the previous "prophecy" of Kratos' death, was painted over; With the image of Kratos being worshipped. I think the moment that Kratos tells Aretus to "open you heart to it", is what made everything change. Letting Aretus know that his ability to show empathy to those who are suffering around him, IS what makes him different than the other GODs in that realm. And the key reason why Kratos made the choice to stop fighting THOR. Instead of fighting him to his death, Like in the mural in Ironwood. He decided to be empathetic to Thor. Because, He was broken just like how Kratos was in greece. As well as being viewed as a destroyer. The moments when Aretus and Kratos motivations for fighting in the war changed, that when everything changed in the murals.
What I don’t get is whether Kratos is bound to the prophecies of the Norse. Didn’t he break free from prophecies from the Greeks? How does he just get bound to a new prophecy when he enters a new land. I feel like Kratos should be above prophecies in a way at this point
@@sufyanahmed5751 I'm not sure if the developers are operating by "being bound by the law of land" logic . Example Mimir, in the God Of War universe is not from "these lands". The first game he mentions seeing items from his homeland in Týr Temple. From his accent he could come from a Scottish/Celtic background. But he is in a lot of norse prophecies.
From Ghost of Sparta, feared by Gods known as a God killer, he want to forget the past and become a father (again) and a Champion of Nine Realms.. worshipped by anyone as a new God of War to Protect peace, it's a perfect ending of a franchise.... no more sequel, let him retire he cried when he saw the last mural
@@alexanderreyes8513 real tyr the god of war is still alive, at first i thought kratos became the new Allfather so people worshipped him, maybe... i dont know
In a way, that prophecy in the mural of someone dying in Atreus' arms and absorbing their soul still came true, except they diverted it enough so now it's Odin instead of Kratos.
@@infernasYou're 1000% right. They still followed the prophecy EXACTLY, which was supposed to lead to Kratos dying in Atreus/Loki's arms. However, it was their choice not to allow prophecy to dictate their ending. I couldn't believe it when I saw Odin in Atreus' arms, with his spirit coming out of his mouth. I literally waited almost 5 years for that moment.
@@ricekrispy6310 I believe that wasn’t the mural she destroyed. She destroyed the one Angrboda shows them at the end where Kratos and Atreus face each other in battle referencing how Atreus was worried that he’d have to kill his own father from the previous game.
I don't think the figure in the 2018 ending mural is Odin, its definetly Kratos. I think they defied prophecy and changed the end when Atreus destroyed the mask. The choice between destroying the mask and using it are clearly laid out just before Atreus makes his choice. I think in that moment Atreus chose who he wanted to be, Atreus the son of Kratos or Loki the Jotün of prophecy. His choice left Odin in his arms, not Kratos.
You are forgetting that Thor is standing over kratos and atreus in the mural. I believe that if kratos hadn't changed as much as he did and kept fighting thor instead of talking him down odin would have still shown up and he and thor would have killed kratos. Because kratos changed he lived but thor died.
@@iShowGaming02 in an effort to save him. If kratos was killed in battle I think atreus would put his soul in a ball to try and keep him alive in some way.
07:22 I totally missed that. But I miss most things haha. That’s why I need to watch these videos after I finish the game. After Atreus, I’d like a Kratos and Freya game. Thanks!
This is how you do a sequel correctly. The beloved main character wasn't reduced to become a side character so another could take his place. Instead, he remained the main character and his story was improved upon. Fans who have been with Kratos throughout all the games so far knows how far he's come. I'm glad his story will continue.
I’m going to guess that since Odin and Thor is gone, there is a Good chance that another pantheon will try and evade the 9 realms where Kratos now has to protect. Which will lead to someone getting kidnapped or killed forcing Kratos to go to their world to restart the vengeance cycle.
no vebgebce. kratos will protect 9 realms as king as earn respect from people and devotes. this will be a war in which the god of it will fight for protecting his loved one and not vengence
No Atreus is going to search for the lost giants which aren’t in the nine realms. It pretty obviously sets up another game where atreus goes to another mythology
This god of war was such an emotional trip that I was not expecting from being with kratos from the beginning till now he as really grown emotionally and it’s a good growth
The giants aren’t in the nine realms , angrboda has already said that they are far away from Odin reach and in a different land. which my guess is that they hiding in the land which the Egyptians gods are located.
Don’t limit yourself to Egyptian mythology, there’s still Celtic, which was confirmed mimirs homeland, there’s Slavic, Mesopotamian, Babylonian, Arabian, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Chinese, and many more myths
@@naturalLin There are many reasons, as he’s now a different type of god of war. He might find a new purpose to travel across the lands, helping those in need. He might want to become more knowledgeable of other gods, especially those that might be similar to him. However, with that said, it doesn’t matter what me or you say might happen, it all depends on game creators, and whatever gets them the most money 🤷🏻
I don't think the mural is about Kratos being a hero of Ragnarok. I think it was about Kratos eventually being worshipped and adored as a benevolent God. But he still has a lot of work before he would achieve that.
@@acidfruitloops I have a video of what happens when you 100 the game, it's not what you think it is 😂 but there's the raven watcher if you kill all odins ravens
@@goldendays404 Oh I killed the fuck outta that bitch, was a little disappointed thought I was about to get into a badass brawl. Just looked like one of those annoying ass wisps or whatever. I may just look up 100% and see what I'm missing.
I feel like GOW Ragnarok made more hints towards Celtic/ English Mythology than any other, mainly based on Mimir mentioning his homeland so much. Compared to the other lands it would arguably be closer to the Norse Realm and given Norse/ Viking culture clashing with the UK it makes sense that maybe that’s where Atreus would look first. I think maybe there were two references to Egypt in GOW 2018 but Mimir spent plenty of time talking about his homeland’s lore that, to me at least, it makes the most sense for that to be the next location, with us eventually making our way to Egypt.
I am in awe of this game…….the series as a whole actually. With Demons souls remake, Elden Ring and now this, the ps5 may be my favorite console of all time.
I can picture Atreus’s journey to find other giants like the fomarians leading him the Celtic lands. Subsequently becoming the legendary Finn McCool in the process. Or maybe even Cu Chulainn (shapeshifting + Spartan Rage = hulk form).
in the comics, Kratos travels to Egypt in between his transition from Greece to Norse. maybe the next game could be sort of a prologue with a younger, still bad ass Kratos in egypt? could very well explain how he got to Midguard.
My entire life Kratos was a menace to society . But after playing this , made me feel good inside . From a God killer to wanting redemption and change for his life . Kratos smiling ? Well deserved 🥹
Ok so what if Thor went to the high plane of existence? Hear me out, when Thor died his body disintegrated like Athena’s but his ash glow was blue instead of green. When Kratos killed Heimdall his body didn’t disintegrate at all and just remained there lifeless on the floor, same as Baldur in the 2018 version and all the other gods Kratos killed in the Greek pantheon. Could it be that Thor’s act of defiance to Odin and standing up for his family was the redemption needed to cross into the higher plane of existence? If that is the case he can come back in a spin-off and guide Thrud through her adventures and missions. Would be one hell of a call back to the original series and what they did with Athena since she technically appeared in 2018 even though it was all in Kratos’ head
I honestly think they NEED a Loki spinoff. Going from this ending straight into some other mythology would be completely out of place without some proper buildup. They mentioned they want 4 more games at least. A loki spinoff could introduce us to the reason why they need to explore other mythologies. Then they could do 3 games in different worlds. That would be my bet. I would love a game with hindu religion (14 different realms), one with scandinavian mythology and maybe a game set in egypt or japan. The thing with the rift closed by the mask would already be a buidup for this.
I feel like I‘m the only one here, but I wish this sequel never happened. To me the first game was drastically better, much more grounded and mature. Odin and Thor still had that menacing mystique surrounding them, Freya‘s threats felt sincere and powerful and they didn‘t feel like a comedic hunting game like in the second game and most importantly Kratos‘ death on the wall was just such a powerful scene and it left the players wondering and fearing. His story came full circle in GoW 2018 and his final speech to Atreus carried the power of all God of War games since 2005. I feel Ragnarok trivialized a lot of things, even the war itself. But that‘s just me. Edit: No wonder I felt weird about the game. A completely different director made it. It was his first game ever. Of course he wasn’t gonna capture the spirit of the literal creator of Kratos.
I love how nobody wants to touch on the idea that some things are better off not known. And unseen. That's the whole reason Odin ruined the 9 realms. He wanted to know the end. See everything. Could it be that is a hint at the studio saying "maybe you don't need more of this story. Some threads need not be pulled." Seemed like that was a pretty heavy handed lesson dished to us.
His conclusion was PHENOMENAL. I’d much rather have an adult Atreus head to Egypt because his arc is just starting where kratos….. it’ll feel like a cope out and undermines this games and 2018s story if he goes to another pantheon and kills gods again will prove these games stories to be pointless if they end up going that way.
@@smarty1268 a god of war game without kratos will not be successful, nobody wants Atreus to be the main characters. Everyone still wants kratos to further go
It should be mentioned that maybe this green portal that odin found is from the realm of higher existence that athena reached, and cause athena was green when she reached that higher existence and the portal is green and is from a higher existence.
Several of the artifacts and treasures you find in the game speak of "relics" like the kind you use in the game for magic that are coming from the East and South, describing that they are powerful if used correctly. Almost hinting at the next game and the pantheons we'll get to see. The treasure relic you find from the South speaks of the Mayan Gods and how "Fair and Just" they are, but powerful as well. My theory is this, next game they are setting it up for us to go back home, but in that process we'll go through parts of Eastern mythology (Egypt/Arab), Southern Mythology (Mayan), perhaps Asia although I feel like two pantheons is big enough, but i guess we'll all have to wait and see what the plan is
Finished and really enjoyed the game, but one small thing is bugging me At the end of Ragnarok when Angrboda shows up to save the day, the way the scene is shot it makes it look like Atreus is pushing Kratos into the realm tear but Atreus doesn't make it in as there is a flash of white light. We then see Kratos running calling out for Atreus which made me further believe that Atreus didn't make it out of Asgard. But then Atreus wakes up in the Holt and everything is fine and we never get an explanation of how Atreus got out. Mimir mentions that Atreus gave them a scare but I didn't notice anything else that explained his escape. I guess he also escaped through the tear? Am I missing something here? Did anyone else feel the same way?
I’m not sure how he got out after pushing Kratos, maybe he was blown through the tear by the force of the sword impacting. But with Kratos yelling, I assumed because of the one cut camera we’re supposed to be seeing out of Atreus’ eyes as Kratos is carrying him in his arms, running somewhere to set him down and panicking because he is injured or seemingly unconscious before he is healed.
@@darknight991 Yeah I also thought of the shot with Kratos running could be from Atreus' POV. If that's the case it's a bit odd though. If Kratos is carrying him I'd expect Kratos to be looking down at him, but he doesn't. He's looking around like he doesn't know where he is.
Yeah you misunderstood some of the context there. Kratos wasn't calling out for Atreus as if Atreus wasn't with them, the scene was from Atreus'perspective as he was barely conscious while Kratos carried him and called to him to stay with them. In other words, Atreus was injured from the blast but was never separated from the group. He had turned back to save Frayer but was immediately injured and knocked unconscious (and was likely ejected through the realm tare) and then Kratos and the others rushed to safety while carrying him.
I feel that at a certain point, the series has to move on from Kratos as the main character. Even if it takes a rebranding. I don't want Kratos to become like Kiryu from the Yakuza series: a character seeking redemption who is constantly given good conclusions to his arc but keeps having them ruined because the parent studio wants more money
The story of the next game: Atreus got in trouble when exploring Egypt/other mythology, he sends Angrboda to seek help, Kratos leaves Freya and Mimir to take care of the 9 realms and goes on a rampage to save his son
I don't think they're done with the Nordic realm. It's just too much to fix there after Odin. I would like to see atreus with an actual weapon besides his bow and a sword that fights for him. I loved his solo missions but think he should of had a weapon. I think he should get Kratos spear in future games or a sword of his own.
How about modern day? Kratos takes LA. Have him fight against the mythology of Scientology. Cruise, Travolta, L.Ron's Wraith, Xenu etc. Have him rampage through some farmer's markets and Whole Foods and destroy Hollywood, sink the place with an Earthquake, and then in the end, Get an executive producer credit for his life story and win a shiny Oscar, fulfilling the prophecy with the golden statue.
The mural was depicting Kratos dying in Atreus arms as Thor stands over them after being victorious in their fight, however they convince Thor to stop his fight against them and "be better" at which point the prophecy can no longer be fulfilled and they have chosen their own fate. This results in odin being the one to die instead. In the original mural, I'm guessing it's Atreus not wanting Kratos to truly die and putting his soul into the marble instead of letting him die however after changing their fate he chooses to trap Odins soul in the marble which fulfills the prophecy in a different way because it's not his father dying but the All-Father instead.
Na man it was a fake prophecy bro cause the other last mural shows kratos being worshipped at the ending of ragnarok that first one was laid out on purpose
It‘s amazing that so many people in the comments beg to differ. What you‘re saying is 100% what actually happens, the „Kratos on the mural is actually Odin“ doesn‘t make much sense and completely ignores everything the norns say.
Definitely hoping for DLC, but highly doubt it’ll happen. I know new game plus and phot mode r coming. And well , I find it odd that I have all this leftover xp. Everything’s upgraded to max and still have a lot of xp to spend. Really weird.
all the extra xp is for all the runic attacks and summons and all the tailsmans, skill mods, ect, you want to upgrade, this game wont be getting any dlc the creators said themselves the idea of dlc doesnt sound right, they think if you pay 60$ that you should get the full game and no other additinal purchases, 2018 god of war har no dlc and the previous god of wars as well, theyll defintely add a new game + in a couple months after release like they did with the 2018 version its just commen senee at that point, but sorry to disapoint theres not going to be any dlc i can almost garuentee you that
I like to think that Thor helped chang fate, kratos was probably gonna try to spare Thor anyways but if blinded by rage or wanting daddy's approval like he always had been beforehand then he would of struck a kratos whos guard is down. Odin was right there meaning that everything in the end of the mural would have happened
The mural did depict Kratos, not Odin. By changing his nature and telling Atreus to open his heart (as the Norns put it, there is no fate, just predictable nature), Kratos was able to survive ragnarok. That's why the new prophecy we see of Kratos as a god worthy of worship is painted over the scene of his corpse, as explained by the game's director.
Yes!! Someone gets it haha i think the game even explains how Faye destroyed that 1st mural, going against her own ppl to kinda change that prediction. I think thats why they were kinda destroyed and covered up in the mountain instead of on full display like the others at the end of the 2018's game
Oh wow, I didn't even notice the parallel between the mural and Odin's death at the end of the game. In a way, that prophecy in the mural of someone dying in Atreus' arms and absorbing their soul still came true, except they diverted it enough so now it's Odin instead of Kratos.
@@maadmaned3784 bro wasnt paying attention at all 😂. I can't tell if ur slow or just trolling. What part of the game makes u think odin is atreus is father?
@blackhippy well when Kratos and Odin conversed in svartalfheim Odin asked Kratos is he sure the boy is his and the Norns said lokis father will die in his hands and the mural shows his father dying in his hands
I think one of the main events that happened in the game that changed kratos fate is the fact brok helped kratos craft the spear and with that spear he withheld Odin from taking the mask in his “ great escape “ I’m sure there is other heavier events but, I think the spear catching the mask was a game changer becusse other wise Odin would have had unfathomable knowledge and power.
Another heavy piece of fate changing is the last dream with Faye. Instead of kratos seeking vengeance like usual he was seeking justice! Fate changing material!
I didn’t understand why Odin didn’t just come right back for the mask. Idk guess he was that scared to be close to Kratos when he was angry… just was weird to me
@@RedGaming44 Odin didn't have a way in again, there was a dialog saying that Odin kept a raven in the broom closet from when Tyr-Odin wanted to stay in. After Odin killed Brok and tried to leave he took the raven with him.
@@HaseoIX I guess that’s an explanation but I was disappointed in Odin. He pretended to be Tyr for so long just to get nothing out of it? It had no impact on stopping Kratos in any way so Odin just ended being dumb and not smart at all by the end of things
When you consider that Atreus is searching for giants, visiting celtic mythology would make a lot of sense, we could have Atreus travel with Angrboda and Mimir to his homeland with Mimir playing the part of the fatherly figure and Angrboda taking over Freyas role.
The ending for Atreus sets up a full blown sequel with a new mythology. It said that he’s going to search for the lost Giants which aren’t in the nine realms so he has to travel to a different mythology.
I have a question. Most people say that the next step might be the Egyptian civilization. Or any other ancient civilization. But I saw another video, when I searched “how old is Kratos” 🤣, and it said that Kratos, based on the chronological events in Sparta and the events on the last two games is probably 1000 years old. Sparta events happened about 500 BC and the events now are happening at about 500 AD. So basically my question is, if the above are accurate, whats the point of Kratos being in Egypt at 500AD. Wouldn’t it be more logical to be in the Crusades for example? Or in the future? Who knows…
They had that awesome concert too at the game awards. I think they were expecting it to win too. Narratively God of War is the better game but both it and Elden ring are fantastic
I actually disagree. I think this might be the end of god of war unless they wish to maybe reboot it with atreus as the main character. I feel like Kratos has finished his arc and changing the story with another arc doesn't seem to fit with his newly resolved character.
SPOILER COMMENT ! For me the story looks like it was designed as a trilogy.. At the end, everything happens too fast. Freyr unites the elfs within minutes and Mimir recruites Hels army without probems all this happens offscreen. And the mask is completely useless we never get to see it in action.. For me the final bossfights are simply not epic enough, especially compared to GoW 2.
You’re wrong on 7:22. The mural is portraying Kratos death and Kratos would of died if he didn’t change his nature. At ragnarok when he told Atreus to open his heart instead of closing it, that moment changed their fate and their nature. Pretty sure this was confirmed by Santa Monica in a recent interview.
I've been thinking... I'm down for an invasion scenario. Seeing that the norse mythology Gods are weakened from odin and the fighting, I would like to see a scenario where Loki defends the norse lands from let's say... from the Shinto mythology or Egyptian invaders that want new lands and glory. I'd imagine a scenario where Atreus gets a renowned japanese sword from battle and with his skill in the bow, He'd be a great samurai since technically samurai were actual mounted bow archers.
I hope it's not in Egypt man so many games are overdoing Egypt assassin's creed there's a couple other in the last like 8 years that have overdone Egypt and nurse you know we never get a Japanese kind of setting you know my and would be cool but please God not Egypt
Atreus' immediate future does NOT seem to be tied with the norse mythology. In ironwood Angrboda says that the Giants aren't in the Nine rehlms. So, Atreus would look for the giants outside the Nine rehlms = outside norse mythology. Maybe Egypt?
I just can’t possibly imagine how they would justify Kratos taking on another pantheon of gods. Like at that point kratos would just have to look into the camera and go ‘well damn, if clearly stuck in a video game franchise because wtf are the odds’ lol
yeah norse saga. I think egyptian or celtic would be the most common outcome. But 2027 would be probably the next one come sout lol so we gotta wait a while.
7:31 I interpret it differently. That’s very clearly Kratos in Atreus’s lap in the mural, and that is a very living Thor standing over them-the outcome is different in the end because Kratos did something unforeseen: he grew as a person and changed for the better because of the love he and his son share for one another. This was set up in Kratos’s encounter with the Norns, who state there is no such thing as fate, they only are able to guess the future, and they are always correct because people are easy to read, people don’t change their nature. But Kratos learns to change his nature by the end of the game and embraces it; whereas before the mission was about vengeance, Atreus helps Kratos to see it should be about justice. This leads to Kratos sparing Thor, who then gives up the fight and is ultimately murdered by Odin, furthering Odin’s own demise. Kratos’s decision to be better for the sake of leaving his child a better world had a trickling effect and drastically changed the result.
Right? I was thinking no way that wasn't supposed to be Kratos and they deviated from what was shown to happen. Then he peeps the back side & sees what just took place throughout the game so it's almost like both were predicted? Perhaps at different times, because the back looked painted like the girl's home? Idk fuck..just finished it, great game either way.
Content I would love to see 1. Being able to switch Atreus and Freya Companions 2. New Game Plus Mode for new Armor sets 3. An Upgradeable Mjolnir weapon to throw and hit enemies with (could be either DLC or in New Game Plus) 4. DLC Story continuation that sets up what will happen next
Just beat it. Great game and can't wait to see more. A mini standalone would be cool because the next mainline title is gunna be...at least 4 years lol.
At least 4 years, I’d say add a year to it mainly because Santa Monica is currently working on a new ip and the fact it took them 4 and half years to get a game that was based on the foundation and formula that 2018 laid…. It’ll probably take them more time to make a game that is set somewhere else.plays different and a new story because 2018 and RAGNAROK are ONE story that was told in 2 games.
@@smarty1268 yeah i agree with you ngl but u have to remember santa monica was working on ragnarok during covid and the game came out a masterpeice so u also have to put that into consideration but i feel like 4-5 years for the next game, makes me sad i beat the game 2 days ago so soon it was so damn good,
@@felix8217 I can give insight to this guys by 2025 of May you should see the first sign of the next god of war game story and where this story will be set but I can give you a good hint that it will be between the English and celtic war times of gods clashing era and will be lined in Tune with helping mimir solve alot of wrongs
Mark my words there will be no DLC for this game. I'm sure Cory Barlog has already said this, but it is the END of the Norse Saga, this means no more games in the Norse pantheon. If we do get more games, Atreus will be an adult and the Giant race will be restored. I highly doubt we will see another GOW entry for 5+ years plus I cannot see why Kratos would fight anymore unless external gods from other pantheons attack Midgard or something along those lines. IMO this is likely the last main God of War game, however we may get certain spinoffs about Atreus.
whatever happens in the future, i hope it doesn't undo all of kratos' hard earned growth and i hope it doesn't essentially end up as kratos ultimately failing midgard. i think i'd even be fine with a mainline game focusing on atreus with his dad called for backup, leaving his stability in the norse world intact. whatever happens, i hope mimir comes along for the ride. i know freya coming back is unlikely (you can't have both the leaders just up and leave midgard) but i hope mimir's status as a belt ornament and his experience in multiple pantheons means he can come along
That's what I fear. I like the idea about going to the Egypt mythology, (as GoW games are the mayor reason I want to learn about the mythology)... but I think the Norse one is perfect for Kratos's character. And if they do another game, I fear they ruin all the beautiful progress the character have.
A Potential Story , What if in the Next Game the Egyptian Gods Travel Mythologies just like Kratos to take over the 9 Realms After Finding out Odin is Dead and then Kratos Protects the Norse Realms with Adult Atreus 😈
One thing I've thought about is the possibility of Kratos having another child he is unaware of. He did do a lot of fucking back in Greece. He even paused mid rampage to clap Aphrodite's cheeks. I don't see the invasion concept working unless the invading pantheon conquered Greece already since it was a lot more vulnerable than the 9 realms. Perhaps a God or Demi-God from Greece warns comet to warn him of the incoming invasion. Or in the bastard child scenario asks Kratos to teach him/her how to be a war god.
I don’t understand why everyone thinks this game doesn’t set up a full sequel. At the end Atreus is going to a different mythology cause he has to search for the Giants that aren’t in the nine realms.
@@peculiar3529The people that have been with the franchise since 2005 don't really care all that much about Atreus. I've followed Kratos since I was 11 and I don't want to follow Atreus to other realms. I want the original creators ending idea to be used. Where Kratos finds the different versions of himself in the Nordic and Eqyptian pantheons and rid the world of all Gods everywhere. IIRC this ended with them keeping watch of the world for any new gods the rise. After hearing of the birth of a new god the 3 travel see this new god themselves. After ascertaining that this child is a loving and benevolent God the 3 leave him be after giving him three gifts of Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh.
@@justinmoore6381 It was certainly devastated, but Kratos didn't kill every Greek God. About a dozen were spared. Including the powerful twins Apollo and Artemis as well Demeter, Hestia and Dionysus. I think it would be plausible that they could rebuild the Greek world.
@@HillbillyDeLucks I gotcha, that’s good though, I thought Kratos simultaneously destroyed Greece when he killed all the Gods. A return to Greece would be cool though. Like you said if he has an unknown son or daughter but who’s a god and is a “good” God that helps and leads Greece. Just something wholesome.
The devs are saying it won’t likely have any DOC because they’ve put “ EVERYTHING into this game” but I certainly hope they do or that am certain story plots are continued upon next installment
Well, technically the prophecy is Kratos dying. The point is to show that Kratos and Atreus changed. If you look closely at the final mural it is Kratos' death mural that is painted over, as in fate was rewritten, seemingly by Angrboda as the colors look a lot like her style
Whoever wrote the script for this video had absolutely NO BUSINESS including the post-game spoiler of... ...finding the real Tyr. Before that, I was under the impression that Tyr was truly dead with the Odin reveal. I simply wanted to see if there was any analysis of the ending that I might have not considered with this video and nothing beyond that.
I think its time to let Kratos go. His story has come full circle us as fans has to stop having to have absolutely everything answered, and characters sucked dry. His character arc or journey DOESNT need to continue. If anything maybe like a small movie talking about his life in Midgard post Ragnarok. But its not about him anymore. And the media should stop pushing needless expansion of characters. Its clear this was Kratos' fate from the jump. Anything more would retcon so much
You can't beat people's attachment to fictional characters, but I agree with what you're saying. I feel Atreus should be the lead in the next with kratos being secondary. Kinda of how the coalition did gears 4, just better.
What if loki switched the marble rite before sin graded it and destroyed it. We still don't know what loki and Odin talked about for sure. Loki can see the future giant stuff
I actually have an idea for an ending game to the GOW franchise that I call God of War Pantheons, a story that crosses over multiple Pantheons that seem to go to seemingly war over the power gap left by the deaths of Zeus and Odin, due to the threat of Chaos, a force that every supreme deity had kept in check. I imagine the beginning of this story to be many years later, at a point where Atreus and Angrboda have fallen in love, got married, and even had their daughter Hela. Midgard would be at peace and Kratos has finally known true peace since Ragnarok, but it is all at risk after seeing what appears to be a meteor fall from the sky in the direction of Tyr's temple. Kratos would make his way toward the temple, only to find the roof and bridge destroyed, and the Egyptian God of War named Montu at the center of it. The tutorial battle would be fighting against hackles, followed by a boss fight with Montu afterwards. Halfway during the battle, a God from another Pantheon appears. Guan Yu of Chinese Mythology attacks and begins a battle with Montu, giving Kratos a chance to escape into the Realm between Realms, but Montu follows him. The second half of the boss fight shows Kratos nearly about to be killed by Montu, but Montu is stabbed by Greta from behind, killing him. I know it's not a perfect opening, but if they don't want to keep doing individual mythologies, a crossover would be the best finale to the entire franchise. So long as Kratos gets the poetic death he deserves. As he said, death can have me, when it earns me. I definitely have a lot to work on with this potential sequel idea, but here are the key points of it. Instead of the Nine Realms, we would travel to different lands using Freyr's Boat for fast travel such as Egypt, Britain, Ireland, China, Japan, Greece. Any other realm in Norse mythology is only available in the main story. A romance would begin to grow between Kratos and Freya, despite their individual emotional struggles they both have within themselves after the events of Baldur's death. King Arthur, Sun Wukong, and Cu Chulainn would become allies with their backstories tweaked to fit the narrative. We would meet the Morrigan of Celtic Mythology and learn that she gave Odin his surplus of Ravens in the past. We would also learn that the Mask in Ragnarok was connected to Chaos and that the Spark of the World is the main cause of the invasion since its origin is linked to Chaos. Kratos would journey back to a post-apocalyptic Greece to retrieve the Blade of Olympus, but be intercepted by survivors of GOW 3, who seek vengeance against Kratos for destroying their land, and Phobos and Deimos, who seek vengeance for the death of their father Ares. Athena would ultimately be revealed to be the mastermind behind everything, as she has formed a coalition of Gods that seek to gain power over Chaos using the Spark of the World. Athena's true goal is to reign over all mortals in her own way without the Power of Hope by manipulating the Pantheons as she tried to do with Kratos in GOW 3. Gods such as the Jade Emperor, the Tuatha De Danann of Celtic Mythology, and a few leftover Greek Deities would join Kratos against Athena. Meanwhile, Ra would join Athena in an attempt to destroy Chaos while Izanagi joins Athena in a maddening attempt to resurrect his wife Izanami from the Underworld known as Yomi. Atreus and Sindri would still be in a bad place, but Sindri goes easier on Atreus as he is tasked with protecting and looking after Hela while Atreus searches for a missing Angrboda. The Underworld would be revealed to be a parallel of the Living Realm and connect all existing Underworlds, allowing fast travel to new lands within the Underworlds of the various other mythologies. Before the final battle against Athena, Kratos and Freya would have a romantic moment, to where they promise themselves to each other when this is all over, if they survive that is. Atreus would ultimately die by Athena's hands, but have a final heartfelt moment with Sindri, who finally forgives him for what happened to Brok. Kratos would ultimately accept and embrace his old self, but control it in a way where he chooses how it will define him. After finally killing Athena, the serpent Apep would appear from the center of Chaos as the final boss. With the Blade of Olympus harnessing the power of multiple Gods from different Pantheons, Kratos destroys Chaos and ultimately dies. In the end, Angrboda and Sindri would look after Hela, helping her control her power and train her to become the ruler of Hel in Scandinavia. Meanwhile, Freya scours the Underworld and beyond to search for Kratos's Soul, determined to keep the promise they made earlier.
I love this idea in theory but it would be quite hard to follow for most IMO and also a hell of a lot of work. The best pary about the Nordic franchise is the worlds felt so fleshed out and alive: especially Ragnarok. To add multiple pantheons invading could lead to quantity over quality. p.s celtic/english mythology rules ;)
WOW I would love such a GoW game!! But I think for such a Big Story they would need to make a for sure 3 Games. The first Game on Ps5 and 5pro and the second on ps5&6 and the 3rd and Final GoW Game only on Ps6. Puhh 15 years minimum from now. 😝
I’m pretty sure the mural showed Kratos. More than that it shows Thor ALIVE standing near by Atreus and Kratos, which clearly didn’t happen thanks to what General Kratos and young warrior Atreus did
Someone help me understand what was the reason for faye destroying Loki’s shrine when they see the mural and how Atreus says she betrayed the giants. I know he said she wanted to do that so they wouldn’t see their fate was it their own Atreus was saying or the giants seeing both their fate ?
Basically, faye went against the giants and found her own path. The giants saw kratos dying and atreus joining odin as we saw in jotunheim when atreus was with angrboda. But faye didn’t believe in that prophecy from the other giants and saw her own prophecy, another path where kratos and atreus survive and defy fate. Thats why she went against the giants, in terms of having her own prophecy. That is also why she destroyed lokis and kratos‘ mural, because she didnt want them to see that prophecy of the giants so they can create their own path. Faye taught kratos‘ to open his heart and to always protect atreus and to fight for justice instead of vengance, which is how keatos‘ changed fate and fayes prophecy came true.
@@MK-jz6gm ahhh okay, kinda crazy so there was basically two prophecies that the characters could have gone and ended up in fayes prophecy. Kinda heart warming too because this shows that freya really loved kratos and Atreus (or came to realize that she loved them and didn’t want them to follow the giants fate) and she didn’t get with kratos and have Loki for the sake of a prophecy as kratos and Loki may have initially thought before seeing the last mural especially kratos mural he sees. Thank you for clarifying it!
@@Iamnels yes exactly. She also saw kratos‘ as becoming a god who is loved and worshipped as the rebuilder, which we saw in the last mural faye painted and kratos almost broke down before. This also proves that faye did love kratos. You are welcome
This game's story is a solid 7 outta 10. You can feel how it needs a third arch, some portions feel rushed/short. Incredibly fun to play and gorgeous looking but it did not live up to what 2018 set up/hyped.
Exactly my thoughts. Someone asked me how I felt about it and I told him to his surprise that story was really weak especially towards the end and I have a mixed feeling on how they handled Fenrir and World serpent relation to Loki being their father and Angrboda being mother to Loki's children. Also the story can be three parts 1 where Krapts and Loki keep searching for answers and 2 where they have an idea what's happening 3 they decide to go to war and start Ragnarok. The first part is really strong. The next two parts are very slow and weak for a god of war game. Although they still handled it somewhat decently it is nowhere near the zenith of story telling GoW3 on PS3 was. The way story unfolds in GOW2 ending to GOW3 ending was really the height which Santa Monica couldn't failed to achieve with GOW Ragnarok.
@Nayyar Rashid 100% agree brotha. I was pretty annoyed they didn't mention who blew the horn and what happened to the dragons they released in 2018. We'll see what happens on the next one.
@@issacrodriguez91 I hope they do like a spin off gamed for Atrues like Lost Legacy to explain things a little better. Next mainline game will probably be in the Next mythological settings and who knows when it might be coming out.
Well it continues, his son has his own adventures, and kratos will setout to other mythylogy etc, rather than a destroyer he is a savior of other realm
The last scene where kratos see himself as a hero of peace was so good. It finally completes the we must be better and finally breaks the circle in which kratos is seen as a monster.
And even better it was his own choice not just him following a prophecy
🥹🥹🥹
@@benjamin8541 But that's why I don't like it, because the mural means he was following a prophecy in the end
Kratos made his own decisions regardless of prophecy, even the first mural almost indicating Kratos would die was not necessarily correct. Prophecys don't matter.
The story was rushed trash, made a mockery of Norse mythology, retconned characters for the sake of “diversity”, turned a cool female character into a Mary Sue, and the entire premise is about how masculinity is toxic. Don’t believe me? Just read the lead narrative’s Tweets.
Now that these tropes have become comically indefensible and people aren’t having it anymore, the best we can hope for is the devs wake-up.
Loki spin-off would be dumb. They should make two more Kratos games and then Loki comes back jacked and a badass instead of a whiny bitch.
This game leaves you wanting more its amazing to see how far Kratos has come
nah, i want that ruthless kratos back, this kratos is just a poo see
i want kratos to destroy all gods of hindu mythology.
@@whitelivesmatter7709 Listen, I believe the path that the Santa Monica studios have chosen is way better, than this "childish" gaming style of just killing everybody without cause. Here they have focused more on Kratos and how he evolved as a Person, and that he learned from his failures and tries not to repeat them or pass them on to his child. If you prefer the old versions than just play them, God of War would've been very boring if he just did the same thing over and over again in different pantheons.
@@screaminpainfr. If Kratos went back to his old ways then that would be stupid.
@@screaminpain Are you trying to say that kratos was not a deep character but a mindless killer? because if so you are sorely mistaken. He didn't kill everybody without cause and if you don't believe me then play the games or watch a video breaking it down for you.
Not gnna lie the ending made me wanna cry seeing Kratos from GOW 1 to now has been an amazing journey
Actually the murals in the first game and in Ironwood, are depicting Kratos death. If you go back and look at the very last panel of Kratos mural at the end of the game, you can see the the previous "prophecy" of Kratos' death, was painted over; With the image of Kratos being worshipped.
I think the moment that Kratos tells Aretus to "open you heart to it", is what made everything change. Letting Aretus know that his ability to show empathy to those who are suffering around him, IS what makes him different than the other GODs in that realm. And the key reason why Kratos made the choice to stop fighting THOR. Instead of fighting him to his death, Like in the mural in Ironwood.
He decided to be empathetic to Thor. Because, He was broken just like how Kratos was in greece. As well as being viewed as a destroyer.
The moments when Aretus and Kratos motivations for fighting in the war changed, that when everything changed in the murals.
Facts
What I don’t get is whether Kratos is bound to the prophecies of the Norse. Didn’t he break free from prophecies from the Greeks? How does he just get bound to a new prophecy when he enters a new land. I feel like Kratos should be above prophecies in a way at this point
@@sufyanahmed5751 I'm not sure if the developers are operating by "being bound by the law of land" logic . Example Mimir, in the God Of War universe is not from "these lands". The first game he mentions seeing items from his homeland in Týr Temple. From his accent he could come from a Scottish/Celtic background. But he is in a lot of norse prophecies.
From Ghost of Sparta, feared by Gods known as a God killer, he want to forget the past and become a father (again) and a Champion of Nine Realms..
worshipped by anyone as a new God of War to Protect peace, it's a perfect ending of a franchise.... no more sequel, let him retire
he cried when he saw the last mural
@@alexanderreyes8513 real tyr the god of war is still alive, at first i thought kratos became the new Allfather so people worshipped him, maybe... i dont know
The mural was definitely depicting kratos’ end but shows that Loki and his father chose their own path.
In a way, that prophecy in the mural of someone dying in Atreus' arms and absorbing their soul still came true, except they diverted it enough so now it's Odin instead of Kratos.
@@infernasYou're 1000% right. They still followed the prophecy EXACTLY, which was supposed to lead to Kratos dying in Atreus/Loki's arms. However, it was their choice not to allow prophecy to dictate their ending. I couldn't believe it when I saw Odin in Atreus' arms, with his spirit coming out of his mouth. I literally waited almost 5 years for that moment.
yeah he fucked up there but its igh
I was about to say…why did Faye freak out and turn on her own people if it was Odin in the mural?? I was like this doesn’t sound right lol
@@ricekrispy6310 I believe that wasn’t the mural she destroyed. She destroyed the one Angrboda shows them at the end where Kratos and Atreus face each other in battle referencing how Atreus was worried that he’d have to kill his own father from the previous game.
I don't think the figure in the 2018 ending mural is Odin, its definetly Kratos. I think they defied prophecy and changed the end when Atreus destroyed the mask. The choice between destroying the mask and using it are clearly laid out just before Atreus makes his choice. I think in that moment Atreus chose who he wanted to be, Atreus the son of Kratos or Loki the Jotün of prophecy. His choice left Odin in his arms, not Kratos.
This exactly. Kratos has defied fate before so him doing so again is no surprise to me.
Wait but I don't get it why would he anyways suck up kratos's soul ? ( According to 2018 prophecy)
You are forgetting that Thor is standing over kratos and atreus in the mural. I believe that if kratos hadn't changed as much as he did and kept fighting thor instead of talking him down odin would have still shown up and he and thor would have killed kratos. Because kratos changed he lived but thor died.
@@iShowGaming02 in an effort to save him. If kratos was killed in battle I think atreus would put his soul in a ball to try and keep him alive in some way.
EXACTLY
Beautiful ending for Kratos. It gets me emotional thinking about his journey
Bruh I thought it was just me, mans were on the verge of a teary eye when he sees a prophecy of people worshipping him in the future
@@LaTinoHustLa91 nah. I am a 42 yo man and this game got me all teared up a couple times. Glad others enjoyed as much as I did tho.
@@dilldell4722 same bro 33 here and deff a few times throughout my play through lol
07:22 I totally missed that. But I miss most things haha. That’s why I need to watch these videos after I finish the game. After Atreus, I’d like a Kratos and Freya game. Thanks!
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Totally unexpected to you here, but love it tho.
This is how you do a sequel correctly. The beloved main character wasn't reduced to become a side character so another could take his place. Instead, he remained the main character and his story was improved upon. Fans who have been with Kratos throughout all the games so far knows how far he's come. I'm glad his story will continue.
I think the game is gonna be the same as miles moralis and Spiderman ps5
Just like a side main game
Shade at Last Of Us 2 😂
This might be the best game I've ever played. The dialogue walking around every corner makes me feel like I'm watching a giant movie.
100%
Sucks for the gamers who dont like “movie games” because i love them!
Don't you mean a Jotun movie?
The first game was so much better cmon
@@thatguitarguyguy or you just can't afford the game
I’m going to guess that since Odin and Thor is gone, there is a Good chance that another pantheon will try and evade the 9 realms where Kratos now has to protect. Which will lead to someone getting kidnapped or killed forcing Kratos to go to their world to restart the vengeance cycle.
no vebgebce. kratos will protect 9 realms as king as earn respect from people and devotes. this will be a war in which the god of it will fight for protecting his loved one and not vengence
And in Kratos's absence Tyr or Freya will be in command
Norse pantheon has ended for Kratos.
@@startusler Yes, but it would be a step backwards for Kratos to leave, he literally says he's done running.
No Atreus is going to search for the lost giants which aren’t in the nine realms. It pretty obviously sets up another game where atreus goes to another mythology
This god of war was such an emotional trip that I was not expecting from being with kratos from the beginning till now he as really grown emotionally and it’s a good growth
Who had dry eyes at the end of this game. Not me I was such a sad but good ending I couldn't hold it back just a masterpiece.
Cried like a baby haha
Man game was so emotional throughout you just couldn't help but to shed a tear specially at the end
Cry baby kratos. Bring back the ruthless man we all love not this cry baby bitch.
@@vintageoriginallegit dang dude who hurt you? Lol
@@koriandr22 the devs that made kratos into a little cry baby bitch.
The giants aren’t in the nine realms , angrboda has already said that they are far away from Odin reach and in a different land. which my guess is that they hiding in the land which the Egyptians gods are located.
Don’t limit yourself to Egyptian mythology, there’s still Celtic, which was confirmed mimirs homeland, there’s Slavic, Mesopotamian, Babylonian, Arabian, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Chinese, and many more myths
@@crackalackin3877 true but Egyptian is the next most popular mythology. I feel like they'd go that route
There’s no reason for Kratos to go to another land.
@@naturalLin There are many reasons, as he’s now a different type of god of war. He might find a new purpose to travel across the lands, helping those in need. He might want to become more knowledgeable of other gods, especially those that might be similar to him. However, with that said, it doesn’t matter what me or you say might happen, it all depends on game creators, and whatever gets them the most money 🤷🏻
@@naturalLin he could follow in Tyr's footsteps and travel to foreign lands which ultimately leads to what happens in the ending mural
I don't think the mural is about Kratos being a hero of Ragnarok. I think it was about Kratos eventually being worshipped and adored as a benevolent God. But he still has a lot of work before he would achieve that.
No. It’s supposed to show him being the hero of ragnarok
God this was such a good story. The level of which kratos loves his son is amazing. I loved every minute of this game.
I want the next game to have Kratos with a white beard like zues hearing about the tales of Loki and searching for him to reunite.
I'm literally starting a 2nd playthrough, this series is the greatest of all time in my opinion, there is no better story based game
Honestly. I can't decide if I want to start a new game or finish all the side quest at the end. Just beat it last night.
@@debourmom DO THE SIDE QUESTS!! They're phenomenal, I just 100% the game
@@goldendays404 any crazy post game optional bosses worth slogging through? I've done a big chunk of the gravestones & dragons. Worth going 100?
@@acidfruitloops I have a video of what happens when you 100 the game, it's not what you think it is 😂 but there's the raven watcher if you kill all odins ravens
@@goldendays404 Oh I killed the fuck outta that bitch, was a little disappointed thought I was about to get into a badass brawl. Just looked like one of those annoying ass wisps or whatever. I may just look up 100% and see what I'm missing.
I feel like GOW Ragnarok made more hints towards Celtic/ English Mythology than any other, mainly based on Mimir mentioning his homeland so much. Compared to the other lands it would arguably be closer to the Norse Realm and given Norse/ Viking culture clashing with the UK it makes sense that maybe that’s where Atreus would look first. I think maybe there were two references to Egypt in GOW 2018 but Mimir spent plenty of time talking about his homeland’s lore that, to me at least, it makes the most sense for that to be the next location, with us eventually making our way to Egypt.
As an Irish person I actually would rather go to Egypt, I just feel like Egyptian mythology is way cooler
Egypt, Japan or Ireland would probably be the top 3 most wanted locations
The way the artwork is done in the “worship” panel looks a lot like how Egyptians depict gods in their artwork historically.
@@xzzlonezzwolfzzxyea i keep saying this. Idk how everyone misses the obvious egyptian art lol
Bruh celtic mythology has some of the dopest monsters.
Imagine fighting celtic undead and all the fomorians
I am in awe of this game…….the series as a whole actually. With Demons souls remake, Elden Ring and now this, the ps5 may be my favorite console of all time.
I was waiting for 4 years to see Kratos smile.
Bruh after all these years of playing as him, I'd never though I'd see him cry. He did like 3 times. It was a shock for me
Ending explained : " we don't know!"
I can picture Atreus’s journey to find other giants like the fomarians leading him the Celtic lands. Subsequently becoming the legendary Finn McCool in the process. Or maybe even Cu Chulainn (shapeshifting + Spartan Rage = hulk form).
The mural at the end made me cry very well done game
If there’s an Atreus spinoff, I truly hope he’s fully grown up in it
That’ll be amazing! His father story’s ends and his beginnings.
Of course, if that happens then we’ll see both of them together again.
@@averagemobileplayergfs7383 his won't end though kratos is in for a bunch of other mythology sagas
Realistically that would be a very risky move for the devs cause no matter what the fans want kratos
F that, we wanna se savage Kratos again
What if atreus gets trapped and tortured by another god and kratos has to save him. Thats when we get the old kratos.
in the comics, Kratos travels to Egypt in between his transition from Greece to Norse. maybe the next game could be sort of a prologue with a younger, still bad ass Kratos in egypt? could very well explain how he got to Midguard.
There's a comic?
@@mgsxmike yes there is....search for Dark Horse Comics God of Wat...u will find 2 comics series
That sounds actually possible because honestly that really is the biggest question how did Kratos not die and then somehow get into Midgard
I honestly don’t want to see him be his old self since he has grown so much as character. Id love to see more mythology characters
@@soulbender1987it was said before that he was cursed to live. He can’t kill himself but he can be killed.
My entire life Kratos was a menace to society . But after playing this , made me feel good inside . From a God killer to wanting redemption and change for his life . Kratos smiling ? Well deserved 🥹
Ok so what if Thor went to the high plane of existence? Hear me out, when Thor died his body disintegrated like Athena’s but his ash glow was blue instead of green. When Kratos killed Heimdall his body didn’t disintegrate at all and just remained there lifeless on the floor, same as Baldur in the 2018 version and all the other gods Kratos killed in the Greek pantheon. Could it be that Thor’s act of defiance to Odin and standing up for his family was the redemption needed to cross into the higher plane of existence? If that is the case he can come back in a spin-off and guide Thrud through her adventures and missions. Would be one hell of a call back to the original series and what they did with Athena since she technically appeared in 2018 even though it was all in Kratos’ head
Thats very perceptive man , that really gets me hopin for thor making a appearance in a new god of war game.
I felt bad for Thor, he was my favorite AT GOW Ragnarok, and to see him killed like that made me feel sad
I felt sorry for him at the end but he wasn't a very likeable character
I honestly think they NEED a Loki spinoff. Going from this ending straight into some other mythology would be completely out of place without some proper buildup. They mentioned they want 4 more games at least. A loki spinoff could introduce us to the reason why they need to explore other mythologies. Then they could do 3 games in different worlds. That would be my bet. I would love a game with hindu religion (14 different realms), one with scandinavian mythology and maybe a game set in egypt or japan. The thing with the rift closed by the mask would already be a buidup for this.
Maybe a little dlc would be cool.
I feel like I‘m the only one here, but I wish this sequel never happened. To me the first game was drastically better, much more grounded and mature. Odin and Thor still had that menacing mystique surrounding them, Freya‘s threats felt sincere and powerful and they didn‘t feel like a comedic hunting game like in the second game and most importantly Kratos‘ death on the wall was just such a powerful scene and it left the players wondering and fearing. His story came full circle in GoW 2018 and his final speech to Atreus carried the power of all God of War games since 2005. I feel Ragnarok trivialized a lot of things, even the war itself. But that‘s just me.
Edit: No wonder I felt weird about the game. A completely different director made it. It was his first game ever. Of course he wasn’t gonna capture the spirit of the literal creator of Kratos.
Egyptian, Japanese, and Babylon are all very deep pantheons that aren’t as well known as Greek or Norse but have even more terrifying gods.
I love how nobody wants to touch on the idea that some things are better off not known. And unseen. That's the whole reason Odin ruined the 9 realms. He wanted to know the end. See everything. Could it be that is a hint at the studio saying "maybe you don't need more of this story. Some threads need not be pulled." Seemed like that was a pretty heavy handed lesson dished to us.
that or it was rushed. it doesb't make sense to add all these mysteries and not go back to them
@@mustymatt9647 more likely it was rushed lol
They rushed this franchise for no reason. Ruined it with cry baby kratos.
Nah bro, there is to mich potential with that mask and the ragnarok was not fleshed out enough for us to have a conclusion like that
@@vintageoriginallegit glad you're in the minority
I hope the next game will be kratos exploring either the egyptian or the celtic lands.
Why would he need to tho
@@daddygravely4673 Any circumstances could happen where kratos might leave the norse realm and it doesn't always have to be a bad thing.
His conclusion was PHENOMENAL. I’d much rather have an adult Atreus head to Egypt because his arc is just starting where kratos….. it’ll feel like a cope out and undermines this games and 2018s story if he goes to another pantheon and kills gods again will prove these games stories to be pointless if they end up going that way.
@@smarty1268 a god of war game without kratos will not be successful, nobody wants Atreus to be the main characters. Everyone still wants kratos to further go
@@smarty1268 i agree, we should still see him in the next games but he shouldn’t the main character anymore
It should be mentioned that maybe this green portal that odin found is from the realm of higher existence that athena reached, and cause athena was green when she reached that higher existence and the portal is green and is from a higher existence.
I personally believe that they should do Celtic mythology next.
What's Celtic?
I really want to see Kratos fight the gods of Egyptian mythology
Technically Kratos does die at the start of the game but Thor brings him back to life, so the prophecy is kind of fulfilled in a way...
Several of the artifacts and treasures you find in the game speak of "relics" like the kind you use in the game for magic that are coming from the East and South, describing that they are powerful if used correctly. Almost hinting at the next game and the pantheons we'll get to see. The treasure relic you find from the South speaks of the Mayan Gods and how "Fair and Just" they are, but powerful as well. My theory is this, next game they are setting it up for us to go back home, but in that process we'll go through parts of Eastern mythology (Egypt/Arab), Southern Mythology (Mayan), perhaps Asia although I feel like two pantheons is big enough, but i guess we'll all have to wait and see what the plan is
But thinking geographically, Mayans are no where near them right?
@@sweetjustice8141 I don't think that different pantheons share the same earth it's more like another reality or multiverse
Finished and really enjoyed the game, but one small thing is bugging me
At the end of Ragnarok when Angrboda shows up to save the day, the way the scene is shot it makes it look like Atreus is pushing Kratos into the realm tear but Atreus doesn't make it in as there is a flash of white light. We then see Kratos running calling out for Atreus which made me further believe that Atreus didn't make it out of Asgard. But then Atreus wakes up in the Holt and everything is fine and we never get an explanation of how Atreus got out. Mimir mentions that Atreus gave them a scare but I didn't notice anything else that explained his escape. I guess he also escaped through the tear?
Am I missing something here? Did anyone else feel the same way?
I think the fury’s were able to get him and others out. They mentioned that they were able to help the worthy escape.
I’m not sure how he got out after pushing Kratos, maybe he was blown through the tear by the force of the sword impacting.
But with Kratos yelling, I assumed because of the one cut camera we’re supposed to be seeing out of Atreus’ eyes as Kratos is carrying him in his arms, running somewhere to set him down and panicking because he is injured or seemingly unconscious before he is healed.
@@darknight991 Yeah I also thought of the shot with Kratos running could be from Atreus' POV. If that's the case it's a bit odd though. If Kratos is carrying him I'd expect Kratos to be looking down at him, but he doesn't. He's looking around like he doesn't know where he is.
@@jordanjohnson8567 i think right after he got out, one of the valkire said that they saved him
Yeah you misunderstood some of the context there. Kratos wasn't calling out for Atreus as if Atreus wasn't with them, the scene was from Atreus'perspective as he was barely conscious while Kratos carried him and called to him to stay with them. In other words, Atreus was injured from the blast but was never separated from the group. He had turned back to save Frayer but was immediately injured and knocked unconscious (and was likely ejected through the realm tare) and then Kratos and the others rushed to safety while carrying him.
I feel that at a certain point, the series has to move on from Kratos as the main character. Even if it takes a rebranding. I don't want Kratos to become like Kiryu from the Yakuza series: a character seeking redemption who is constantly given good conclusions to his arc but keeps having them ruined because the parent studio wants more money
No Kratos No God of war.
The story of the next game: Atreus got in trouble when exploring Egypt/other mythology, he sends Angrboda to seek help, Kratos leaves Freya and Mimir to take care of the 9 realms and goes on a rampage to save his son
God of War: Taken
I don't think they're done with the Nordic realm. It's just too much to fix there after Odin. I would like to see atreus with an actual weapon besides his bow and a sword that fights for him. I loved his solo missions but think he should of had a weapon. I think he should get Kratos spear in future games or a sword of his own.
How about modern day? Kratos takes LA. Have him fight against the mythology of Scientology. Cruise, Travolta, L.Ron's Wraith, Xenu etc. Have him rampage through some farmer's markets and Whole Foods and destroy Hollywood, sink the place with an Earthquake, and then in the end, Get an executive producer credit for his life story and win a shiny Oscar, fulfilling the prophecy with the golden statue.
The mural was depicting Kratos dying in Atreus arms as Thor stands over them after being victorious in their fight, however they convince Thor to stop his fight against them and "be better" at which point the prophecy can no longer be fulfilled and they have chosen their own fate. This results in odin being the one to die instead. In the original mural, I'm guessing it's Atreus not wanting Kratos to truly die and putting his soul into the marble instead of letting him die however after changing their fate he chooses to trap Odins soul in the marble which fulfills the prophecy in a different way because it's not his father dying but the All-Father instead.
Na man it was a fake prophecy bro cause the other last mural shows kratos being worshipped at the ending of ragnarok that first one was laid out on purpose
It‘s amazing that so many people in the comments beg to differ. What you‘re saying is 100% what actually happens, the „Kratos on the mural is actually Odin“ doesn‘t make much sense and completely ignores everything the norns say.
What if the giants are in Egypt being tortured and adult Loki goes to save them only mid way through the game for Kratos to join the fight
Definitely hoping for DLC, but highly doubt it’ll happen. I know new game plus and phot mode r coming. And well , I find it odd that I have all this leftover xp. Everything’s upgraded to max and still have a lot of xp to spend. Really weird.
all the extra xp is for all the runic attacks and summons and all the tailsmans, skill mods, ect, you want to upgrade, this game wont be getting any dlc the creators said themselves the idea of dlc doesnt sound right, they think if you pay 60$ that you should get the full game and no other additinal purchases, 2018 god of war har no dlc and the previous god of wars as well, theyll defintely add a new game + in a couple months after release like they did with the 2018 version its just commen senee at that point, but sorry to disapoint theres not going to be any dlc i can almost garuentee you that
The mural in Ironwood is still showing Kratos getting defeated/killed by Thor it's very obvious that it's not Odin but Kratos. Just a false prophecy?
Not a wrong prophecy, but rather kratos defied prophecy, because of faye
@@MK-jz6gm I like that assumption better. Thank you.
@@TheDude55 its not an assumption its stated in the game
Well kratos got killed in the first encounter with thor and got revived
I like to think that Thor helped chang fate, kratos was probably gonna try to spare Thor anyways but if blinded by rage or wanting daddy's approval like he always had been beforehand then he would of struck a kratos whos guard is down. Odin was right there meaning that everything in the end of the mural would have happened
The mural did depict Kratos, not Odin. By changing his nature and telling Atreus to open his heart (as the Norns put it, there is no fate, just predictable nature), Kratos was able to survive ragnarok. That's why the new prophecy we see of Kratos as a god worthy of worship is painted over the scene of his corpse, as explained by the game's director.
Yes!! Someone gets it haha i think the game even explains how Faye destroyed that 1st mural, going against her own ppl to kinda change that prediction. I think thats why they were kinda destroyed and covered up in the mountain instead of on full display like the others at the end of the 2018's game
Oh wow, I didn't even notice the parallel between the mural and Odin's death at the end of the game.
In a way, that prophecy in the mural of someone dying in Atreus' arms and absorbing their soul still came true, except they diverted it enough so now it's Odin instead of Kratos.
Odin is Atreus father
@@maadmaned3784 no he's not. Where did u get that from?
@blackhippy from the game
@@maadmaned3784 bro wasnt paying attention at all 😂. I can't tell if ur slow or just trolling. What part of the game makes u think odin is atreus is father?
@blackhippy well when Kratos and Odin conversed in svartalfheim Odin asked Kratos is he sure the boy is his and the Norns said lokis father will die in his hands and the mural shows his father dying in his hands
I think one of the main events that happened in the game that changed kratos fate is the fact brok helped kratos craft the spear and with that spear he withheld Odin from taking the mask in his “ great escape “ I’m sure there is other heavier events but, I think the spear catching the mask was a game changer becusse other wise Odin would have had unfathomable knowledge and power.
Another heavy piece of fate changing is the last dream with Faye. Instead of kratos seeking vengeance like usual he was seeking justice! Fate changing material!
I didn’t understand why Odin didn’t just come right back for the mask. Idk guess he was that scared to be close to Kratos when he was angry… just was weird to me
@@RedGaming44 Odin didn't have a way in again, there was a dialog saying that Odin kept a raven in the broom closet from when Tyr-Odin wanted to stay in. After Odin killed Brok and tried to leave he took the raven with him.
@@HaseoIX I guess that’s an explanation but I was disappointed in Odin. He pretended to be Tyr for so long just to get nothing out of it? It had no impact on stopping Kratos in any way so Odin just ended being dumb and not smart at all by the end of things
@@RedGaming44 that's not at all what Odin wanted to do. He wanted to steer Atreus away from his father and have him on his side
The leaves me wanting kratos to go to Egypt, Japan, Indian. So many stories to tell
ngl tbh, thor should’ve picked up his hammer & said “no” then flew off. kinda hated seeing thor die 😭
When you consider that Atreus is searching for giants, visiting celtic mythology would make a lot of sense, we could have Atreus travel with Angrboda and Mimir to his homeland with Mimir playing the part of the fatherly figure and Angrboda taking over Freyas role.
If you played this series from the beginning, this was an amazing experience
I want a total remake of the three original games with the mechanics of ragnorok
That would be awesome
Kratos finally has become a God who people will revere and pray to. He may not like the reverence, but he has become a true and just God of war
The ending for Atreus sets up a full blown sequel with a new mythology. It said that he’s going to search for the lost Giants which aren’t in the nine realms so he has to travel to a different mythology.
I have a question. Most people say that the next step might be the Egyptian civilization. Or any other ancient civilization.
But I saw another video, when I searched “how old is Kratos” 🤣, and it said that Kratos, based on the chronological events in Sparta and the events on the last two games is probably 1000 years old.
Sparta events happened about 500 BC and the events now are happening at about 500 AD.
So basically my question is, if the above are accurate, whats the point of Kratos being in Egypt at 500AD.
Wouldn’t it be more logical to be in the Crusades for example? Or in the future? Who knows…
Man the ending had me crying like a baby. This game packs so much emotion into its story , such a phenomenal game by far the best game this generation
Such an excellent story. How this didn’t win Game of the Year is still a mystery to me.
They had that awesome concert too at the game awards. I think they were expecting it to win too.
Narratively God of War is the better game but both it and Elden ring are fantastic
I’m ready for the next god of war 😁
I actually disagree. I think this might be the end of god of war unless they wish to maybe reboot it with atreus as the main character. I feel like Kratos has finished his arc and changing the story with another arc doesn't seem to fit with his newly resolved character.
They're going to have to massively improve atreus's combat, if he's going to have his own game. Hopefully adult loki.
I can see a dlc happening with atreus. They've already said they're done with the norse mythology so a full blown spin off is very unlikely.
I thought dlc, but maybe they go a Spider-Man miles morales direction
SPOILER COMMENT !
For me the story looks like it was designed as a trilogy.. At the end, everything happens too fast. Freyr unites the elfs within minutes and Mimir recruites Hels army without probems all this happens offscreen. And the mask is completely useless we never get to see it in action.. For me the final bossfights are simply not epic enough, especially compared to GoW 2.
I totally agree with your opinion. Ragnarok also left the time differences from jotunheim, midgard, and niflheim that they introduce from 2018
You’re wrong on 7:22. The mural is portraying Kratos death and Kratos would of died if he didn’t change his nature. At ragnarok when he told Atreus to open his heart instead of closing it, that moment changed their fate and their nature. Pretty sure this was confirmed by Santa Monica in a recent interview.
I've been thinking... I'm down for an invasion scenario. Seeing that the norse mythology Gods are weakened from odin and the fighting, I would like to see a scenario where Loki defends the norse lands from let's say... from the Shinto mythology or Egyptian invaders that want new lands and glory. I'd imagine a scenario where Atreus gets a renowned japanese sword from battle and with his skill in the bow, He'd be a great samurai since technically samurai were actual mounted bow archers.
Lol I wonder if the makers of games ever secretly look at threads like this for ideas because this is a damn good idea!
Odd Nobunaga you should write the plot for next game mane
The iconic Loki helmet kinda does look like a samurai helmet, if they take creative liberties
I hope it's not in Egypt man so many games are overdoing Egypt assassin's creed there's a couple other in the last like 8 years that have overdone Egypt and nurse you know we never get a Japanese kind of setting you know my and would be cool but please God not Egypt
Atreus' immediate future does NOT seem to be tied with the norse mythology. In ironwood Angrboda says that the Giants aren't in the Nine rehlms. So, Atreus would look for the giants outside the Nine rehlms = outside norse mythology. Maybe Egypt?
that's.. literally what he said in the video.. Either way my money is on that atreus is going celtic in the next game
@@QuincyStick uhh.. no it's not? He literally says "while Atreus's immediate future seems to be tied to Norse mythology setting".
I just can’t possibly imagine how they would justify Kratos taking on another pantheon of gods. Like at that point kratos would just have to look into the camera and go ‘well damn, if clearly stuck in a video game franchise because wtf are the odds’ lol
It’s good thing you aren’t writing these stories. There’s plenty of directions they can go in to continue with Kratos
I really enjoyed playing as Atreus. It was refreshing. I hope we get a DLC as atreus
thier will be no dlc
probably
For me the Atreus part was the first thing that i hated in a God of War Game.
When Kratos started crying more often during and after Ragnarök, It hit me so hard.
But Santa Monica said that this is the last game in the Norse saga. 🤔 Unless their story continues in for example Egyptian mythology.
or hindu mythology
yeah norse saga. I think egyptian or celtic would be the most common outcome. But 2027 would be probably the next one come sout lol so we gotta wait a while.
7:31 I interpret it differently. That’s very clearly Kratos in Atreus’s lap in the mural, and that is a very living Thor standing over them-the outcome is different in the end because Kratos did something unforeseen: he grew as a person and changed for the better because of the love he and his son share for one another. This was set up in Kratos’s encounter with the Norns, who state there is no such thing as fate, they only are able to guess the future, and they are always correct because people are easy to read, people don’t change their nature. But Kratos learns to change his nature by the end of the game and embraces it; whereas before the mission was about vengeance, Atreus helps Kratos to see it should be about justice. This leads to Kratos sparing Thor, who then gives up the fight and is ultimately murdered by Odin, furthering Odin’s own demise. Kratos’s decision to be better for the sake of leaving his child a better world had a trickling effect and drastically changed the result.
Right? I was thinking no way that wasn't supposed to be Kratos and they deviated from what was shown to happen. Then he peeps the back side & sees what just took place throughout the game so it's almost like both were predicted? Perhaps at different times, because the back looked painted like the girl's home? Idk fuck..just finished it, great game either way.
Content I would love to see
1. Being able to switch Atreus and Freya Companions
2. New Game Plus Mode for new Armor sets
3. An Upgradeable Mjolnir weapon to throw and hit enemies with (could be either DLC or in New Game Plus)
4. DLC Story continuation that sets up what will happen next
Content I would love to see:
A spin off where its the gow 3 kratos and no atreus
@@budi9573 there already is one believe it or not but it actually a main game....... it's called god of war 3 pretty fun you'll love it
@@mistersandman5811 nah i wanna see interaction gow 3 and odin
Only 2 may happen
When I beat the game I was like.. PLAT TIME… got the plat and now I need more 😔
Just beat it. Great game and can't wait to see more. A mini standalone would be cool because the next mainline title is gunna be...at least 4 years lol.
At least 4 years, I’d say add a year to it mainly because Santa Monica is currently working on a new ip and the fact it took them 4 and half years to get a game that was based on the foundation and formula that 2018 laid…. It’ll probably take them more time to make a game that is set somewhere else.plays different and a new story because 2018 and RAGNAROK are ONE story that was told in 2 games.
@@smarty1268 yeah i agree with you ngl but u have to remember santa monica was working on ragnarok during covid and the game came out a masterpeice so u also have to put that into consideration but i feel like 4-5 years for the next game, makes me sad i beat the game 2 days ago so soon it was so damn good,
@@felix8217 I can give insight to this guys by 2025 of May you should see the first sign of the next god of war game story and where this story will be set but I can give you a good hint that it will be between the English and celtic war times of gods clashing era and will be lined in Tune with helping mimir solve alot of wrongs
@@dannykay5536 how did u get this information??
Mark my words there will be no DLC for this game. I'm sure Cory Barlog has already said this, but it is the END of the Norse Saga, this means no more games in the Norse pantheon. If we do get more games, Atreus will be an adult and the Giant race will be restored. I highly doubt we will see another GOW entry for 5+ years plus I cannot see why Kratos would fight anymore unless external gods from other pantheons attack Midgard or something along those lines. IMO this is likely the last main God of War game, however we may get certain spinoffs about Atreus.
I think Celtic makes most sense since Mimir is from those lands and that mythology is very similar to norse so it wouldn't,t be a huge jump.
It’s pretty trash there’s no reward/trophy for harder difficulties. Makes getting platinum ridiculously easy
whatever happens in the future, i hope it doesn't undo all of kratos' hard earned growth and i hope it doesn't essentially end up as kratos ultimately failing midgard. i think i'd even be fine with a mainline game focusing on atreus with his dad called for backup, leaving his stability in the norse world intact. whatever happens, i hope mimir comes along for the ride. i know freya coming back is unlikely (you can't have both the leaders just up and leave midgard) but i hope mimir's status as a belt ornament and his experience in multiple pantheons means he can come along
I would want a game where Kratos gets redemption from his ashy skin that's the curse he still bears on him.
That's what I fear.
I like the idea about going to the Egypt mythology, (as GoW games are the mayor reason I want to learn about the mythology)... but I think the Norse one is perfect for Kratos's character. And if they do another game, I fear they ruin all the beautiful progress the character have.
A Potential Story , What if in the Next Game the Egyptian Gods Travel Mythologies just like Kratos to take over the 9 Realms After Finding out Odin is Dead and then Kratos Protects the Norse Realms with Adult Atreus 😈
this would be too good to be true 😈.
One thing I've thought about is the possibility of Kratos having another child he is unaware of. He did do a lot of fucking back in Greece. He even paused mid rampage to clap Aphrodite's cheeks. I don't see the invasion concept working unless the invading pantheon conquered Greece already since it was a lot more vulnerable than the 9 realms. Perhaps a God or Demi-God from Greece warns comet to warn him of the incoming invasion. Or in the bastard child scenario asks Kratos to teach him/her how to be a war god.
I don’t understand why everyone thinks this game doesn’t set up a full sequel. At the end Atreus is going to a different mythology cause he has to search for the Giants that aren’t in the nine realms.
@@peculiar3529The people that have been with the franchise since 2005 don't really care all that much about Atreus. I've followed Kratos since I was 11 and I don't want to follow Atreus to other realms.
I want the original creators ending idea to be used. Where Kratos finds the different versions of himself in the Nordic and Eqyptian pantheons and rid the world of all Gods everywhere. IIRC this ended with them keeping watch of the world for any new gods the rise. After hearing of the birth of a new god the 3 travel see this new god themselves. After ascertaining that this child is a loving and benevolent God the 3 leave him be after giving him three gifts of Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh.
Wasn’t Greece destroyed?
@@justinmoore6381 It was certainly devastated, but Kratos didn't kill every
Greek God. About a dozen were spared. Including the powerful twins Apollo and Artemis as well Demeter, Hestia and Dionysus. I think it would be plausible that they could rebuild the Greek world.
@@HillbillyDeLucks I gotcha, that’s good though, I thought Kratos simultaneously destroyed Greece when he killed all the Gods.
A return to Greece would be cool though. Like you said if he has an unknown son or daughter but who’s a god and is a “good” God that helps and leads Greece. Just something wholesome.
The devs are saying it won’t likely have any DOC because they’ve put “ EVERYTHING into this game” but I certainly hope they do or that am certain story plots are continued upon next installment
God of war ragnarok is absolutely top shelf storytelling in video games
Well, technically the prophecy is Kratos dying. The point is to show that Kratos and Atreus changed. If you look closely at the final mural it is Kratos' death mural that is painted over, as in fate was rewritten, seemingly by Angrboda as the colors look a lot like her style
It also mean Kratos is the hero for the Norse mythology but also can be for the future for other mythology. Who is the big guy on the mural for Kratos
Whoever wrote the script for this video had absolutely NO BUSINESS including the post-game spoiler of...
...finding the real Tyr. Before that, I was under the impression that Tyr was truly dead with the Odin reveal. I simply wanted to see if there was any analysis of the ending that I might have not considered with this video and nothing beyond that.
I think its time to let Kratos go. His story has come full circle us as fans has to stop having to have absolutely everything answered, and characters sucked dry.
His character arc or journey DOESNT need to continue. If anything maybe like a small movie talking about his life in Midgard post Ragnarok.
But its not about him anymore.
And the media should stop pushing needless expansion of characters.
Its clear this was Kratos' fate from the jump.
Anything more would retcon so much
You can't beat people's attachment to fictional characters, but I agree with what you're saying. I feel Atreus should be the lead in the next with kratos being secondary. Kinda of how the coalition did gears 4, just better.
@ 5:41 You got Odin lookin' like one of those sugar daddies that'll be on those websites looking for a sugar-baby 🤣
Well Kratos is a widower and Freya is a widow... soooo???
What if loki switched the marble rite before sin graded it and destroyed it. We still don't know what loki and Odin talked about for sure. Loki can see the future giant stuff
I actually have an idea for an ending game to the GOW franchise that I call God of War Pantheons, a story that crosses over multiple Pantheons that seem to go to seemingly war over the power gap left by the deaths of Zeus and Odin, due to the threat of Chaos, a force that every supreme deity had kept in check.
I imagine the beginning of this story to be many years later, at a point where Atreus and Angrboda have fallen in love, got married, and even had their daughter Hela. Midgard would be at peace and Kratos has finally known true peace since Ragnarok, but it is all at risk after seeing what appears to be a meteor fall from the sky in the direction of Tyr's temple. Kratos would make his way toward the temple, only to find the roof and bridge destroyed, and the Egyptian God of War named Montu at the center of it. The tutorial battle would be fighting against hackles, followed by a boss fight with Montu afterwards.
Halfway during the battle, a God from another Pantheon appears. Guan Yu of Chinese Mythology attacks and begins a battle with Montu, giving Kratos a chance to escape into the Realm between Realms, but Montu follows him. The second half of the boss fight shows Kratos nearly about to be killed by Montu, but Montu is stabbed by Greta from behind, killing him. I know it's not a perfect opening, but if they don't want to keep doing individual mythologies, a crossover would be the best finale to the entire franchise. So long as Kratos gets the poetic death he deserves. As he said, death can have me, when it earns me.
I definitely have a lot to work on with this potential sequel idea, but here are the key points of it. Instead of the Nine Realms, we would travel to different lands using Freyr's Boat for fast travel such as Egypt, Britain, Ireland, China, Japan, Greece. Any other realm in Norse mythology is only available in the main story. A romance would begin to grow between Kratos and Freya, despite their individual emotional struggles they both have within themselves after the events of Baldur's death. King Arthur, Sun Wukong, and Cu Chulainn would become allies with their backstories tweaked to fit the narrative. We would meet the Morrigan of Celtic Mythology and learn that she gave Odin his surplus of Ravens in the past. We would also learn that the Mask in Ragnarok was connected to Chaos and that the Spark of the World is the main cause of the invasion since its origin is linked to Chaos. Kratos would journey back to a post-apocalyptic Greece to retrieve the Blade of Olympus, but be intercepted by survivors of GOW 3, who seek vengeance against Kratos for destroying their land, and Phobos and Deimos, who seek vengeance for the death of their father Ares.
Athena would ultimately be revealed to be the mastermind behind everything, as she has formed a coalition of Gods that seek to gain power over Chaos using the Spark of the World. Athena's true goal is to reign over all mortals in her own way without the Power of Hope by manipulating the Pantheons as she tried to do with Kratos in GOW 3. Gods such as the Jade Emperor, the Tuatha De Danann of Celtic Mythology, and a few leftover Greek Deities would join Kratos against Athena. Meanwhile, Ra would join Athena in an attempt to destroy Chaos while Izanagi joins Athena in a maddening attempt to resurrect his wife Izanami from the Underworld known as Yomi. Atreus and Sindri would still be in a bad place, but Sindri goes easier on Atreus as he is tasked with protecting and looking after Hela while Atreus searches for a missing Angrboda. The Underworld would be revealed to be a parallel of the Living Realm and connect all existing Underworlds, allowing fast travel to new lands within the Underworlds of the various other mythologies. Before the final battle against Athena, Kratos and Freya would have a romantic moment, to where they promise themselves to each other when this is all over, if they survive that is. Atreus would ultimately die by Athena's hands, but have a final heartfelt moment with Sindri, who finally forgives him for what happened to Brok. Kratos would ultimately accept and embrace his old self, but control it in a way where he chooses how it will define him. After finally killing Athena, the serpent Apep would appear from the center of Chaos as the final boss. With the Blade of Olympus harnessing the power of multiple Gods from different Pantheons, Kratos destroys Chaos and ultimately dies. In the end, Angrboda and Sindri would look after Hela, helping her control her power and train her to become the ruler of Hel in Scandinavia. Meanwhile, Freya scours the Underworld and beyond to search for Kratos's Soul, determined to keep the promise they made earlier.
I love this idea in theory but it would be quite hard to follow for most IMO and also a hell of a lot of work. The best pary about the Nordic franchise is the worlds felt so fleshed out and alive: especially Ragnarok. To add multiple pantheons invading could lead to quantity over quality.
p.s celtic/english mythology rules ;)
WOW I would love such a GoW game!! But I think for such a Big Story they would need to make a for sure 3 Games. The first Game on Ps5 and 5pro and the second on ps5&6 and the 3rd and Final GoW Game only on Ps6. Puhh 15 years minimum from now. 😝
I’m pretty sure the mural showed Kratos. More than that it shows Thor ALIVE standing near by Atreus and Kratos, which clearly didn’t happen thanks to what General Kratos and young warrior Atreus did
Someone help me understand what was the reason for faye destroying Loki’s shrine when they see the mural and how Atreus says she betrayed the giants. I know he said she wanted to do that so they wouldn’t see their fate was it their own Atreus was saying or the giants seeing both their fate ?
I love your pfp
Basically, faye went against the giants and found her own path. The giants saw kratos dying and atreus joining odin as we saw in jotunheim when atreus was with angrboda. But faye didn’t believe in that prophecy from the other giants and saw her own prophecy, another path where kratos and atreus survive and defy fate. Thats why she went against the giants, in terms of having her own prophecy. That is also why she destroyed lokis and kratos‘ mural, because she didnt want them to see that prophecy of the giants so they can create their own path. Faye taught kratos‘ to open his heart and to always protect atreus and to fight for justice instead of vengance, which is how keatos‘ changed fate and fayes prophecy came true.
@@scouseflay8393 wtf lmao 😂😂😂
@@MK-jz6gm ahhh okay, kinda crazy so there was basically two prophecies that the characters could have gone and ended up in fayes prophecy. Kinda heart warming too because this shows that freya really loved kratos and Atreus (or came to realize that she loved them and didn’t want them to follow the giants fate) and she didn’t get with kratos and have Loki for the sake of a prophecy as kratos and Loki may have initially thought before seeing the last mural especially kratos mural he sees. Thank you for clarifying it!
@@Iamnels yes exactly. She also saw kratos‘ as becoming a god who is loved and worshipped as the rebuilder, which we saw in the last mural faye painted and kratos almost broke down before. This also proves that faye did love kratos. You are welcome
Just finished the game, it was amazing.
This game's story is a solid 7 outta 10. You can feel how it needs a third arch, some portions feel rushed/short. Incredibly fun to play and gorgeous looking but it did not live up to what 2018 set up/hyped.
Exactly my thoughts. Someone asked me how I felt about it and I told him to his surprise that story was really weak especially towards the end and I have a mixed feeling on how they handled Fenrir and World serpent relation to Loki being their father and Angrboda being mother to Loki's children. Also the story can be three parts 1 where Krapts and Loki keep searching for answers and 2 where they have an idea what's happening 3 they decide to go to war and start Ragnarok. The first part is really strong. The next two parts are very slow and weak for a god of war game. Although they still handled it somewhat decently it is nowhere near the zenith of story telling GoW3 on PS3 was. The way story unfolds in GOW2 ending to GOW3 ending was really the height which Santa Monica couldn't failed to achieve with GOW Ragnarok.
@Nayyar Rashid 100% agree brotha. I was pretty annoyed they didn't mention who blew the horn and what happened to the dragons they released in 2018. We'll see what happens on the next one.
@@issacrodriguez91 I hope they do like a spin off gamed for Atrues like Lost Legacy to explain things a little better. Next mainline game will probably be in the Next mythological settings and who knows when it might be coming out.
Totally agree
Well it continues, his son has his own adventures, and kratos will setout to other mythylogy etc, rather than a destroyer he is a savior of other realm