Fixing Traffic Problems I Made Myself in Cities Skylines!
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I think a cool idea for the city would be a small racetrack as it is the UK and Motorsport is pretty big. I think something similar to oulton park or Cadwell would fit nicely in the countryside
We all love this one!!
I love this idea, but it should totally be one of the repurposed airbase style where you can still see the original runway delta somewhere in the way the service buildings are laid out. Those things are _everywhere_ across the UK.
You’re making me think of the silverstone which is kind of around the same area in the country as Kettering
THIS WOULD BE AMAZING!
Yes! Could even have some business parks and industrial estates around like where the teams could be based
28:33 I think you are being confused by something there: I think you can click the turn signs on lane 2 as well
I agree. Lane 1 is the bus lane and lane 2 is for cars and other vehicles.
I think what Biffa meant here was in terms of realism/safety. Hypothetically, if a bus in lane 1 was going straight and he allowed the left hand turn in lane 2 then there would be a “collision”. Not 100% sure if that’s what his thought process was but that’s what I gathered from that bit
In real life you can cross over but the bus is usually on its own set of lights.
Biffa - yumbltv has a good timed traffic tram roundabout which allows for separate release of the tram by dealing into some areas of traffic manager and timed traffic lights. Might work here with the buses
@@UKChrisC That’s cool, some places out here have bicycles on a separate light so I can see that easily translating to busses. I was going on what made sense in the context of the video. Here in NYC if you’re making a turn the bus lane will usually end before the intersection but if not you can use the bus lane to turn.
@@TheRealSilentMbuso usually in the uk too the bus lane would end early. Biffa would have to have the road change for that.
Got to love Traffic, classic England! Started my own British themed city using your mod pack and really enjoying trying to (all beit poorly) copy Yorkshire.
Best county!
Ya cant copy Yorkshire mate, its uncopyable lol
@@TonySpike I realised that! Instead, I've just taken bits I like from places I've lived in around North Yorkshire lol.
I think these little 1x1 Fachwerk houses are actually offices, aren't they? Maybe replace them with actual homes, as you have the need for them. But I love the look of this little village, with the old train station, the church and the graveyard. And the cobblestone streets are just the little cherry on top
I think a fancy old private school would suit East Kettling really well and also a golf course.
Hi Biffa. For your electricity I used some solar panels. You could get some over parkings or just one that you could place anywhere (I used them beside police or fire stations). It helps and keep your city green!
43:17 The reason that vehicles keep stopping at the roundabout is because the roundabout is too small, and the nodes are too close together. If nodes are too close together, vehicles will stop to wait for the vehicles in front of them. If you made the roundabout bigger, this problem shouldn't occur.
That is not the case here, its the thing at 44:15
The bus lanes in my area always end a good stretch before a roundabout. So no bus lane will ever go directly into a roundabout itself.
Sometimes, the bus lane will just simply merge with the normal lanes.... and other times it will be controlled by a traffic light.... giving the buses priority when merging.
After all, the whole point of the bus lane is so the buses can skip over heavy traffic, but you don't want buses merging with car on the actual roundabout itself. It should merge before.
Hey Biffa, just paint park area all over the houses, that should increase the land value and allow you to place park assets as common areas in a housing scheme :)
That's so simple... yet so brilliant and in all my hours playing I've never thought of it
What next? Tourism commerce and call it center parks?
Loved the name-making for areas, including the brilliant name for the village, but I'm sure you mentioned you would name the farm as well. I still got my suggestion for its name somewhere amongst the comments of a previous video. Incidientally, I got some suggestions that would be nice ideas for the city:
* Try to create yourself some nice pedestrian-only streets; especially if you do another highstreet setting in the city.
* See if you can find some thatched houses for use in another village.
* Create a Sport Leisure Centre somewhere near the new residential area
* Create a grand country house for visitors to enjoy seeing
* For the second highway exit on the main motorway, create an offshoot lane for left-turning traffic, to ease up traffic heading towards the farm.
* For the market station's rail link - try to locate the brick viaduct set with closed off arches. I think that would look cool up to where it meets the main road in the 'south', before the rest becomes embarkments
Make a one way system in and out of the town. Maybe having one side of the rover going one way, crossing the river to go back, and force them to go into the other side of the roundabout (set the "arms" of the roundabout to one way also) to avoid in and out traffic mixing
People sitting at round abouts when no one is coming is really capturing British road use 👍😂 really do enjoy this series
I think a wicked good idea for when you expand to the other, large river is to call the waterway the River Tea, and the area called Teaside (after Teeside) and developed with a mixture of buildings from Mediaeval through Victorian. And let it have a cathedral, please!
And the hill above it should have a manor house. I'd like to call it Easley-on-Hill after the fictitious manor in Armistead Maupin's book, _Babycakes._
I had the River Tea/Teaside thought too when Biffa named the river and adjoining community. Sort of a "I can't believe I didn't think of that until now."
@@SoDakJason I hadn't either, I had thought of and suggested in the previous episode the River Teames for the small river Biffa called The Wold 😉
Maybe a small part of the history of the train station could be that it used to be an old river port from when cargo mainly traveled by river back in the day. After the train was invented, the need for a riverport dwindled and the old buildings were converted into a cargo railway station and then once lorries took over the main way to transport goods the station was once again converted into a passenger railway station as the population of the old increases and more people need to commute. This is a pretty normal story for a lot of the rail stations near the river in my area
Loving the series biffa! You should swap East and West Kettling to be named the other way round as its opposite to East and West St Giles
I think he should leave them the same. I like the idea of East and West Kettling being the wrong way round. It seems like the sort of British thing that should exist, even though it probably doesn't anywhere
@@dougsxoom616 true true
With the road you've added at 30:00 you could make it a one way system with people being able to enter the area over the new road and people being able to leave the area over the old road. That way you prevent right hand turns over the road.
i imagine when Biffa allows for "you go through" on roundabouts there's just a traffic cop in the road directing it along😄
Biffa, please use the "set default speed" for a road in TM:PE.
I mentioned this in the last video... Driving me crazy
@@automation7295 Having a better default set means you don't have to go all around the city changing speeds.
Set the default and if you think an area needs tuning from the new default, then just tune those particular roads.
I have had to go around a large city more than once to change the speed on every single instance of a road, back in the day.
The set default speed thing is the best feature added to TM:PE in ages.
I like how I can make the tolls have no speed limit lol
@@ZaHandle That has a habit of glitching out though, set the speed to a max of 100 (kph) and it won't glitch. The Glitch out also doesn't seem to happen if automated tolls are enabled.
I think the unique building "old street market" would fit to east kettling
Hi Biffa, we love your channel, especially this series as a Brit living in Australia. I have fond childhood memories of heading out the city to visit family in the countryside on RAF bases, a base could be a great addition as they’re like a village with plenty of housing and the planes etc so could make use of the airport dlc.
I deeply enjoy the visual effects on the Biffa-isms that pop on screen; Plopify, Smoothie-smooth, etc. Positively delightful
Hi Biffa. I'm just wondering if maybe a monument of some sort would look good in the middle if East Kettling Park? Or maybe some sort of clock tower within that area.
That would be cool!
I wonder why the main roads have bus lanes when there’s no bus service.
Edit: I think the reason vehicles can turn across the motorways you built without using Traffic Manager is because the motorway is one road going two directions.
@28:15 You can make the non-buslane turn left and go straight through. Your tool shows both lanes, but I think you focused on only the left (bus) lane. Also, you should add a country road or two that meander the countryside. Maybe a small road coming from the Kettling area to the Bickie area. And they have to join the main road at a weird angle- for realism you know
28:10 before you fixed it, lane 1 was the bus lane, the normal driving lane was lane 2, which could have been set to left and straight.
I like the UK lorries you're using, but something I found with a tight commercial area is that because so many of them are larger, they have a larger turning radius that sometimes gets them stuck on the roads. My solution was to make everything one-way, then they didn't have to do as tight a turn in front of the shops.
You should add living boats, the small ones they have in the UK in the river.
Biffa, if you need any tips on realistic canal/narrow boats - I used to live on one!
You mean canal boats?
I mean boats to live on. In Amsterdam all canals are full of those boats and I have seen them in London as well, only smaller ones
Peaky blinders
@38:38: Appreciate the callout. I'm a fan of yours and of Phil, but I love the effect that he has had on the entire C:S community. 🙂
17:40 this was also a problem in your earlier video's of the same city, just because road after the node is very small, they wait to enter the road before the road has space for new cars
Hey Biffa, aren’t East and West Kettling the wrong way around? Surely the East and West should be aligned with St Giles’ east and west!
look the other way around lol
oops lol :-)
Fixing self-induced traffic problems... been all I did the other day in one of my cities. Started a bypass until I realized I needed the next square over. Threw in a hastily planned Metro, which reduced the need for the bypass. And to think, I wasted all that time putting the plans into locked file cabinet and getting it into the basement without stairs nor lights.
But, "Time is an illusion... lunchtime doubly so" :)
"Oh look a tiny village with a few shops and housing for
To be fair look at tiny fishing towns around the UK, especially Cornwall. Half the country tries to fit in them
My suggestion about the stopping at the roundabout is, that the nodes are to close together. Maybe that is the problem.
I agree, the game does tend to start and stop the traffic on islands if the nodes are too close together. I wonder if it is because Biffa is trying to keep the roundabouts small
The new area need schools. Maybe add some foot bridges over the river as well to help foot traffic.
You could even make the cobble streets residents only to reduce traffic, especially with the train station and bus options available around
Yes, both is desperately needed
For mills, check out Charles St. by Clements.
There's a whole set of various types of mill buildings including foundries, machine shops, and other nice buildings that are big enough to be convincing, yet small enough to fit in to that space along the river. These are based on actual factory and mill buildings located in Providence, Rhode Island which is about 120 miles south of where I live. These are some of the oldest mills in the US and are similar to those found in the UK where we got the design from.
On one side, the town is hemmed in by the fact that you don't own the next tile. Why not work that into the build? I'm not sure how common it is in the UK, but where I live it would make sense to have the remnants of a city wall there. It would explain the break in the development pattern.
There's certainly towns with old city walls in the UK. York is the best example off the top of my head.
Love the series.... ❤️
QQ : Dedicated Bus lanes makes sense inside a city..... Is it really necessary to have on a rural road leading to a village ??
Maybe not :-)
If East Kettling becomes commuter belt, then the rush hour traffic would be bad and the bus lanes makes the bus a much better option. We have a few town to city links like this in Cardiff :)
@@automation7295 sorry just saying we literally have this here :)
Biffa the cars are stopping on your roundabouts not because of broken roads or wrong tmpe settings but because nodes are too close to each other, once this little segment of the roundabout is taken by cars (only need 1-2) the cars are stopping on the intersection to wait for this cars to go through. This is the same that in real life as it is written in traffic rules in all countries :)
P.S. Pleeeeease make your public transportation system more realistic. I'm crying when you make your bus routes
I did a realistic pop city a couple months back. It wasn't huge, but the thing I did to fix my traffic issue was actually to massively slow the roads down, and provide lots of rail transport. That would probably be easier with trams, but I don't have the DLC. If cars are limited to 10 mph, goods transit between areas is by rail, and everything is pedestrianized with good transit, they just quit trying to drive, and there is very little traffic. Also, I banned cars on the outside highway connection, so my new citizens arrived by train.
Now that you have East Kettling, I feel it sets you up nicely for a 'Far East Kettling' in the next square, giving a little nod to the tea trade from the East India Company. Love the back and forth as you grow the city then have to roll back and align the old areas.
Im in love with this series! Love the old town vibe, hope you extend it the same way!
12:46 If you want to avoid having junctions so close to each other but still don't want to have a normal crossroads, you can do what you have there with just one node if you use node controller to offset one of the roads.
I think underneath the train tracks you should add some weeds and gravel surface paint to give it an old neglected look.
*Good evening Biffs! Love this series! Making me a little home sick, though lol Hmm seeing this video out, makes me think I need a cuppa tea lol* 💪👍
Enjoy 😁
IIRC, the only office buildings in the whole city are those half-wood ones near the olf market station. So that might be why there were so many cars commuting across the city. There are well-educated people on the other side who want to work in the offices, instead of the industry or retail.
It might be better if they all moved over to the lovely new houses right next to the offices - except there are no schools over there to give their kiddies a good education!
Also, I was thinking you perhaps should get rid of the vanilla raised traintracks that run into the old market station and use those raised brick viaducts. ie. the other ones that you didn't use to run into the transport hub. They've got a nice "old London town," look to them, particularly when you use the arched brick sections to create train bridges over roads. It would add to the old-school look of the area.
Hi, your traffic nightmare is mostly caused by the sudden appearance of whole blocks of houses. You could insert the buildings while the game is on slow instead of hold, that way you stagger the influx of vehicles. You may loose some traffic-influx shots tho.
Love what you done to the place :) The 4th gate could not be build due to NIMBYs who did not want all the noise of the park visitors in summer who come with family and barbecue stuff to the park.
The motorway junction at 25 minutes could be solved by having a direct route in the direction to East Kettling, with a dedicated lane from the slip road
I think Blightea-on-the-Wold might be the most entertaining CS series I've watched yet. Every episode makes me chortle at least twice. Probably because the consistent frustrations and problems are kind of hilarious, so I guess I'm taking joy in the pain of this poor city's citizens but I'm kind of okay with that. 😂
if you look very closely at the train stations, you can already see a tiny Geoff Marshall commenting on the lack of bin bags blowing in the breeze
@32:40 Hi Biffa
You can easily change building type in RICO (and not Realistic Pop) building settings.
Any type You want - high/low res or commercial, office - can even take pollution off some industrial buildings - I do that a lot for most warehouses available for UK packs - they don't pollute irl but are industrial type of workplace and it's all easily done and saved locally for all maps You might play on. RICO for the win!
Nice traffic You've got there buddy ... impressive! :)
Recommendation: When you unlock subways Biffa, maybe use Tube trains on it. Love your videos!
Thanks for the tip!
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines No problem
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Alternatively, you could use other UK metro trains like Newcastle on Tyne's
I’m curious how you’re going to replace the trumpet interchange when you unlock that tile. Maybe some more famous Biffa Spaghetti? 🍝
I think a UK stack interchange might be in order; there are several on London's M25 Orbital (what we in the US call a beltway).
i'm loving this series, the attention to detail is great! I'm also loving the editing of this video, the 2nd 18.000 population mark had me in tears :P
I was literally, calling biffa lol at 45:33 .. BIFFAAAA loook! 2 tractors and a trailer crossing over! love how it is going!
Biffa, East Kettlong needs a Park & Ride service also you should make al the cobbled streets Pedestrian only. Also East Kettling is the smallest with the largest station, not sure how that works! :D
I think a cool idea for the city would be like Victorian Houses along the river.
I'm sure someone has already pointed this out, but with the British Dual Carriageway roads the slip roads become junctions and traffic ignore central reservations. So even with the "hugos" the game seems to override them. You need to use the lane turn part of TMPE on every slip road to stop traffic jumping across the reservations.
Hey Biffa, I reckon the alotments would look nice directly alongside the river. And a city wall around those old half-timbered houses or a park going all around would look very nice. (An example for such a park is my hometown Würzburg in Germany, and it litteraly is called a "Ringpark")
loving that old city centre core around the train station. Could see an old city wall around the core before they switch over with newer buildings around it.
1st time commenter, long time viewer. Got the game (console unfort.) after watching your videos. Great as always, couldn't help notice at 28:10 with regards lane arrows you were looking at lane one (bus lane) and not lane 2 (general traffic). I'm sure it'll be said 1k times but just in case. Keep up the great content ✌️👍
I love seeing these traffic fixing videos, very satisfying
Biffa this intro was amazing, I loved the YEAH (sunglasses + explosions). I loved it, just for once though but still great intro! Enjoy some tea after that intro
Enjoying the video while sipping on my morning coffee….. errrr tea! Yeah tea, def not coffee 😅. I absolutely love your UK build. It’s so fun to watch. After this video is over, I’ll be on to watch CPP lol. Saturday mornings are the best
Hi Biffa. Around 32mins you mentioned changing the commercial/office goods needs and sales. In the Options menu, the Realistic Pop mod has settings for all that stuff. How many goods are sold, how much are needed, car/bike/ped preferences by res type, all of those nitty-gritty details. It's _really_ down-in-the-weeds stuff, but I think it's what you want to reducing the traffic to East Kettling
Old villages typically had roads that bended with the terrain. That's what made them wiggly for the most part. Short cuts added to it too.
I know this may sound silly and unnecessary, but if you reduce the speed of the train tracks at the the junction of East kettling Station it would make it more realistic.
Love the series! I always watch as soon as i I get the notification.
You should definitely use some cobble, and stonewall in the village. Also, what about a holiday park with caravans....is there a mod for a pedestrianised shopping area? As a ps4 player all this makes me so very envious 😂
I loved your "fix my city" serie, and I really miss it. This episode was almost as one of those, so I loved it. PLEASE more fix your city, and less moon and other wierd things hahahaha
What you need is another road to bypass the motorway and connect the first town so that the traffic crossing the motorway reduces. Somewhere to the North you should bridge itover and the motorway traffic should have more room.
Here is what you need to do to solve traffic problems:
1. Build alot more roads (entry points) so it give the people multiple options to get to same area.
2. Set the speed limit to the same mph on each road so it forces cars to use the smaller roads more often
3. Build your city as fast as possible. The max number of cars is either 32K vanilla or 65k modded. Once you get a large population with neighborhoods spread throughout your city the traffic will dilute itself.
That park needs a cenetaph in it. Every major villiage/town green has one.
You have to have a train station called "Hob Nob Central" - Loving the map
When it comes to naming things in places that are divided by East and West or North and South etc. You don’t always have to name something in that place, East blah blah blah, if there isn’t one in the West. Some places do, but others won’t.
For instance, if you have East Biscuiton and West Biscuiton, and in East Biscuiton you have a train station and in West Biscuiton you have a park, a lot of times they’ll just be named Biscuiton Station and Biscuiton Park and drop the geographic prefix/suffix.
That’s another thing, you can also use compass directions as a suffix to change things up a bit, as you have a few now that use it as a prefix. So Biscuiton East/West. I think London, or at least Tube stops have a lot of places that use a suffix more than a prefix.
Sorry if this is rambling, I just thought it was a good shout to he’ll change up the names a bit.
Oh Gawd! You have built one of those conservation areas where you have to get planning permission to repaint your front door, windows or the colour of your bathroom suite!
Random curvy roads once followed contours inthe land, which can help if everything isn't completely flat.
Not sure how realistic looking it would be, but I’ve found that if you use the pedestrian bridge mod to build paths around the roundabouts it helps to stop the cars from stuttering at the junction! 😊 love you videos btw you’re the reason I got into playing Cities Skylines!!
As you set that up as a "roundabout" around the station, it removed all pedestrian crossings on that "roundabout" road. Now no one can reach the center and station by walking or cycling.
Also, because TMPE does not know what a bus lane is, you need to set lanes at junctions yourself. Annoying, but at least you get to plan how you want to prioritise your buses. 😄
About those roundabouts and give way signs, I am not sure but it feels like there's been an update at some point because in my game give way works like that as well causing huge issues. I had to stop using them because it is almost as bad as setting up stop signs.
Very realistic to have your recycling next to the river to pollute the whole thing and later fix your error. Very London! 😂
Now that you have a High Biccy, you definitely need to use my suggestion of Little Biccy when you make another village, or else the elf will cry and we don't want that now do we lol. 🤣
and another biffa video to safe the day. Thank you so much for entertaining us so much ❤
You're welcome :-)
Hey Biffa, I am a long time fan. Thank you for being en-tea-taining. You are brilliant! I wish you the best! Have a phenomenal year! ~JayRizzo
I like the story part of the train station and the utilities added later to the old part of the town, I wouldn't add utilities next to the river. The most valuable lots to the utilities.
Vehicles act like items on belts from other games. The main difference is they will refuse to go if they don't "think" there's enough room. Your round-a-bout lengths are too small and they consistently think there wont be enough room, so they stop until the previous car clears it.
Biffa, the bits you've left open in Kettling would be much better suited for the services that you've currently put along the river. I can't think of a single place that would waste desirable riverside property on something like a fire station. It would be much nicer for tourism, like cafes & restaurants, or maybe even expensive residential further away from the noise.
Really enjoying the UK series!
Yeah good idea 👍
bought this videogame because I enjoyed watching your traffic videos. Turns out there's more satisfaction watching your traffic videos than playing the game.
33:20 it is uncommon to have multiple floor small shops, because of all accessibility rules for shops (think of wheel chair users)
In typical old buildings converted to shops, the upper floor houses 1 household and storage space for the shopkeepers, and the bottom floor is a store
Good idea if City Skylines will allow it
With the traffic, add separate ramps on and off before the bridge to stop traffic crossing. It might help traffic more.
Also a bus line might reduce traffic too
Admittedly I only watched 1/3 of this but at this juncture you need more parking spaces and also the mod that stops large trucks coming into the area to deliver goods. Much more realistic for that small town to have goods delivered by vans.
Not sure why you've got bus lanes on roads out in the countryside. That's worse than a bus lane on the M4!
Biffa, the problem that the cars stop in the roundabout is derived from the length of the segment between two nodes. If there are a spece for two cars between the two nodes at a certain speed, the game makes the cars moving, however if the space between the nodes is of a only 1 car, the game stops the next car at the give way mark, because it does not have the space to stay there. You can clearly see the length between the two nodes with the 'road marking tool'. The distance also varies depending on how "big" the crossing is: the wider a crossing, the more the distance between two nodes in the roundabout decreases; the smaller the intersection, the more the distance between two nodes increases; if the distance of an intersection is zero it becomes a perfect node. (Viewable and editable with the mod of node management).
It is nice to have two very close intersections, however it generates calculation errors and the vehicles do not respect TMPE's commands.
At that point there are 2 roads or put the road connected to a node and then move it with the mod or build a dead end road. (also resolving that vehicles pass under the road in the new district).
In/out of roundabout or a big intersection is quite useless have a lane only for busses because you delete the possibility of the ramain traffic to move more freely.
I didn't remember where are you from but in England before the traffic light the bus lane ending for helps the traffic
Sorry for the bad english, i wish is clear. If you understand this concept you can have a less traffic jam and solve a lot of your traffic problem. The use of TMPE line connector in node, expected the straight only, you can allert you that they're some issue in the traffic.
Can't wait to watch this episode! Gotta watch my footie first 😂I'm loving Blightea so far, it's so creative in my opinion. You're smashing it
Thank you RareRUclipsr5000 :-)
24:00 I wonder if it would make any sense or worth to simply have a bus only lane going straight across so that the buses would not take up the space on the roundabout. And the parts where the off ramp goes from the highway and onto the ring should have a road with an extra lane to make four lanes so that they can more smoothly get onto the ring. Also, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion for an area to build, the triangular section between the elliptical roundabout and the river looks like a nice place to put a posh apartment complex area of some sort. One with one to three medium sized tall buildings with a nice park area interspersed in the areas in between. Either that or a small mall (not like a shopping area like near the start of the series but a one building shopping complex).
28:33 BIFAAAA NOOOOO!!!! Lane 1 was the bus lane! The lane you were trying to change was lane 2!
That new spot with the half-timbered houses reminds me of Port Sunlight on the Wirral peninsula
'How far back does it go?'
Traffic covers the entire city.
You'd do well working for a local council. They're just as bad :)
River Wold sounds neat. Maybe Blightea proper could be by the lake?
Don't have bus lanes near intersections.
The cars Arena driving on the wrong side... that's the real reason for the traffic problems :DD
With love from Germany!
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Fantastic work loving the build so far, perhaps you could call the new park Jasmine Park and the river Oolong (a bit like the river ouse)