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There are underground metro stations on the workshop with 0 noise. Some say that’s cheating but it’s super unrealistic to say no one would want to live next to a metro station. Some of the highest rental property values are next to them because of the convenience so… take that C:S
No actually people generally don't like to stay near metro stations but yeah those r elevated. Underground metro stations don't actually have much noise which comes to the surface.
But yeah elevated metro stations and at grade ones do have a lot of noise pollution and people tend to not live close by. The rental value also makes it kinda unaffordable for residential zoning and so you'll mostly find high density commercial and stuff near metro stations.
There one asset on steam that's a Power plant in a little building that's basically free power lol
@@サッティクサルカル its the foot traffic that is unpleasant near a station, as well as unsavoury types hanging around.
If nobody wants to live near a metro station and it raises property values so that only businesses are nearby... who the Sam Hill is riding the train? I live in a suburb with an above-ground metro station nearby. Is there some noise? Yes, but it is absolutely a feature that makes more people want to move to this neighborhood and aside from a corner shop it is all residential all the time (to the point that it's actually a hassle to get to the nearest grocery store.) Crime isn't a big issue, it's well lit and we have a good PD. Oppertunists go for the easy target and the dingy, less used stations elsewhere absolutely qualify. Some suburbs only have outbound in the morning and inbound on the evening, and that's going to ensure that only the more affulent people with regular 9-5 hours are coming home in small numbers later in the evening. Way more dangerous than a busy train. C:S seems to go too hard IMO with how powerful the "sick from noise" is for these stations compared to real life... but hey, it's a video game and it is going to do simplified things. As the risk of mugging goes down because people aren't alone in the station the noise of large crowds and the chance of communicable disease goes up.
@@サッティクサルカル I totally disagree mate. Come to London and see how residents prefer to live near underground stations, overground stations and light rail etc. There is minimal noise and it totally enhances a residential area.
Biffa: Violates his own rules of traffic by not having enough ways in or out of a section of the city.
Also Biffa: Considers destroying that section with meteors, instead of adding an additional entrance/exit.
If he had added another highway exit it could have been too much near the one he already has or he had to buy another square, and I am not sure that he could have done that without waiting to grow over 15/18k of population
He is quick to criticize others but actually isn't great at managing his own traffic. Entertaining videos and all but now I'm actually good a traffic management I realize he really isn't that great
@@jackkerner6562 one could just spend few minutes at a busy intersection in order to end good at traffic management in cities skyline. When I watched the "fix my city" series I always thought that the city was build by a 12 years old that never stopped to watch what real traffic is and learn from it
@@automation7295 Go watch YUMBLTV and TwoDollarTwenty. No disrespect to biffa but hes objectively not that good at this game
meteors leave no evidence of building error...
I think the biggest issues with that "main road" is that there are only two points of connectivity. If you add another way in from the main road to the middle up towards the park I think that would solve a lot of it. If you look at the traffic patterns it would be interesting to see how many people are coming into the area on the ends and then making an immediate turn to go to the middle. We just don't have any connectivity in the middle from the main road. Only the ends. So EVERYTHING is funneled there. Even if it was a one way in it would elevate some of the traffic flow.
I was going to suggest the same!
Yes, even a walking path ( or 3) on that side of the street from Main St to the residential area would be a big help
I agree, the huge square needs a connection or two more on that bottom side from the large main road. and i would add walking paths overhead and remove some of the crosswalks across that bottom road as well.
Also the trams using the same road to access the main collector makes the traffic worse, they could get their own tram road, no cars but allows pedestrians
You can't do metro's in the USA themed city. USA's public transport infrastructure is known for being horrendous. You just add more lanes like they do in Texas and pray that it gets better lol. BTW if Biffa reads this I just want to clear my self. I am not trying to alter how you play this campaign. I was just trying to make fun of USA's public transportation infrastructure. Hope I did not offend in any kind. Much love.
Denver has a great light rail system. The Metro in DC is good. Even New York's subway system is good despite being ancient. But in general, your post is 100% correct. Especially the Texas bit. Every time I go to Texas, I am stunned at the amount of roads. Its like real life Mini Motorways.
@@apolloj23 All the Southern States are poor and are kept poor since they lost the Civil War.
@@apolloj23 yeah the east coast has alright public transit.
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He's already constructed more roundabouts than the average American town, unsubscribed!!
I feel like simply disconnecting those roads that are super close to your main road, could help with the traffic issue?
I came to say the same thing. If Biffa just disconnected the road closest to the 🚦, it would allow the cars to stack up further until their chance to get on the main road. I feel Biffa’s downfall is that sometimes, because he is the creator, he is too close to the issue and misses the simple solution. (I hope that doesn’t sound disrespectful)
Just delete the two lane road directly opposite the main road, so there isn’t a junction right off of the main road. You’ll end up with enough room for people to queue for the next junction up the road and for the main road junction without blocking the box, plus you can fit in more houses or businesses in the space where the road used to be- or hell, make it a pedestrian path!
"The idea is to make the city as mass transit and walkable as possible..."
I thought this was an American city? ;)
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Just pretend it's Portland or Chicago or D.C. or NYC
There are plenty of walkable US cities. If Biffa wants to keep it realistic, he just has to make sure not to extend it much further than the city center.
LOL! Right? We have some buses where I am. During rush hour Monday through Friday. No sidewalks to get to them, but that still counts, right?
@@automation7295 I know, I know! Just some good-natured teasing from a fan! :)
I'm not complaining how Biffa's playing the game. I think it's great! I'm just making a joke that we here in America are (well deservedly) known for terrible walkability and public transit.
hah ya seriously roundabouts are way more plausible before functional public transportation and any consideration for pedestrians
I love this game but the way they let you build a metro in a small city of less than 20000 people is kinda funny. The town i grew up in had around 35000 people and we barely had a bus service let alone a metro or trams
I think the devs said that the population was off, because of limitation on hardware, I just assume that it s 10 to 1 and it makes more sense.
@@lepotdefleur9906 i hear ya. But using your example that would mean biffa is currently at around 150k residents which seems a bit high for the 3 neighborhoods he currently has. I get your point tho and it makes sense.
The town I grew up in has over 1.5 million and there is 0 passenger rail, above or below ground.
@@sobertillnoon The town I grew up in has about 30k and we have train, tram and busses. OK, we are right next to the capital of our state and neighbour another city of similar size.
@@kaltaron1284 my point was that in the US, population isn't a good marker for whether or not a municipality has rail.
I agree with the previous mentions of removing the connections of the "problem road".
I would add:
1. There are no cut-throughs between the main and problem road, even next to the metro station.
2. The problem road is busy because some shops are facing the road instead of the main street. That is causing more traffic on a road not built for it.
Please don't be offended. I love this series! You and City Planner are my favourite RUclipsrs.
In the U.S. we have loads of big box stores such as Wal-Mart, Target, Home Depot, Best Buy, etc, and they all have large parking lots. Sometimes you would see several in a row too or maybe one with a strip center on one or both sides. Anyway, I think it would be a unique challenge for you to see if you can do that. It's something I haven't seen any other youtubers do. I always add them along with other American restaurants and stores into my cities, otherwise it's just unrecognizable.
I'm in the process of locating assets to build something like this based on Milford CT! I live in the country, a drive through there recently blew my mind.
I try to incorporate those into my runs of this game, it adds that extra little realism to have huge shopping centers and parking lots galore.
And don't forget those drive thru fast food restaurants!
@@TheSkyGuy77 Yeah, we REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, love our fast food in America!
Hi Biffa. I don't mean to be too critical but this is suppose to be an American / USA Style build, but this doesn't really remind me of the USA at all.
The suburbs wouldn't really be that close to High Density housing. There would be more office parks, shopping plazas and so forth in the suburbs. There may be downtown business districts with shops and office space in a given area, but that's about it.
There would unlikely be as much public transportation that you are putting in. Bus service would be bringing people to specific shopping areas vs school bus services that would be around neighborhoods and bringing kids to school.
There definitely wouldn't be a metro in the suburbs as that's something for a large downtown area like New York City. A suburb may have a commuter rail that has 1 stop dedicated for the large suburb to bring people to downtown offices and business areas in a New York City.
Trams are just not common at all in the USA as it's mostly car centric in the suburbs. Though they do exists in a place like San Francisco but they are called cable cars.
Also some assets like the old brick factories and old brick houses you use in your British City build could be used in here if you were creating an older city like Boston. Lots of old areas with factories look like this and housing for people who worked in the factories looked similar. Search for US Mill Buildings if you want to see areas that look like this, they are usually always around rivers because of commerce back in the 1800's
If are you looking for an accurate USA build it may behoove you to go on Googles maps and look at some cities and their associated suburbs outside of the city. I
Just some thoughts, obviously it's your city and should do what you find fun.
Looking at your need for industry, and with the new tile unlocked, it's definitely time to look again at that abandoned industrial area you identified in episode one.
Have you noticed that you can turn on "Allow Right Turn at Red Lights" in Traffic Manager's Options? It's a thing in America that means traffic turning right can ignore a red light and would make it closer to real life traffic rules. That would at least help the traffic line at 22:32. Also, Auto-Dedicated Turning Lanes is a thing :D
Yes, that would make it more realistic. Many places in the U.S. allow right hand turns on red unless there is more than one right turn lane (in which case only the curb lane can turn on red) or unless the particular intersection has a sign stating otherwise.
I believe he mentioned this in an older video! I'm not 100% sure but I think it might have even been his British-style city!
Hey Biffa, since the city has name Mississipatea, you could place a statue of a lady in the middle of the roundabout at the entrance of the city and call it "Miss Sip a Tea". You could build the origin of the city around this lady whom imported tea for the first time in the valley
Unconventional suggestion: how about a smaller transport hub right outside the city on the highway (think gas station) that’ll take people in and out of the city using public transport? Could be cool and efficient! :-)
In the US we’re constantly swerving around potholes in our roads so a couple meteors would be very realistic. Also man-made lakes are pretty common in US flatland areas so there’s a 2nd use for meteors.
16:46 A full on bridge/overpass thing isn't necessary here, because there is a bridge built in to the asset already and there is a spot on the end of the platform for a path to connect.
Suggestion: Pop down a ball park or a baseball stadium in this build somewhere and have it setup like a common asset between the west part of a district and the east part which has been the decision ground for the age old rivalry between the two districts plus to top it up pop down a couple of rugby or American Football fields alongside some nice high schools in the two districts for the same purpose but this time it's inter-school rivalry thing but somehow the whole district's involved.
This is absolutely a real thing that neighboring hish schools do in the USA. Football rivalries get wild. Woe be the nerd who wore blue in the red part of town on game day by accident.
That's exactly what he did in Blightea, with a football field between two neighbourhoods.
Maybe a connection from the back of each side of the city to the motorway might help with traffic, currently every citizen must use the same road to both enter/leave the city, take a tram or cross between the two halves. One road is doing EVERYTHING
Well Teattle will live on in my heart. Can't wait to see how Mississippitea will develop.
Mississippitea doesn't even make sense given the map features, not exactly a lot of mountains in Mississippi. My vote was for Teattle also.
hey Biffa, when you start naming districts could you name one Libertea?
Libertea Siptea?
@@mandowarrior123 How about Kwikcipaty (pronounced "quick sippa tea")?
Teacaucus or Teacupcus after Secaucus NJ?
Libertea Gardens
When/if he gets to building a harbor, he should call it "Oops": A safe mooring where in the days of old they thought the kettle was filled (but in actuality tea was sadly only spilled).
Sever the connections for the first couple local streets into the collector, to create a longer block leading into the main arterial. That might give more room for traffic to stack up for the traffic signal, and back up less into the neighborhood.
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Cool! You did the thing with conjoined lights and separating cars from trams. I find that the coolest thing ever. I have seen some people do some of the most stonking cool things with that.
You should check out Cyterion’s metro stations on the workshop. They are basically Vanilla underground stations, but have a bunch of different orientations not only parallel to the road. They also can have multiple platforms! Although some people in the comments talk about silent stations, these are not.
Biffa's American city is super realistic because American traffic makes you want to blow up the roads with meteors...
From my perspective, a lot of your public transit is very repetitive. Most routes taking the same routes and serving similar functions. I like the P2P metro, but the tram basically follows the exact same route as the circular metros
at 36:03 the straight on traffic from the top can keep going while the traffic from the bottom goes, they are not bothering anyone, just the ones crossing over from the right (right as it is on the screen.) top bottom and right as we see it from above
Hey Biffa, on your traffic light, consider two tips, 1 - clear center between linked lights to keep traffic from blocking, 2 - give pedestrians a separate cycle to prevent slowing car movement. Give them 3 to 6 seconds.
Can I just say, I live in Milton Keynes. We are known to be roundabout city. We have over 130 roundabouts. And our city was designed by an American. Just a little bit of trivia for you.
4 days after getting city status - not a roundabout town anymore!
There are plenty of roundabouts and light rail in the US. Maybe not in every viewer’s exurb but it’s called Cities Skylines folks
Took the idea of craigavon in northern ireland and expanded on it, Made it much bigger, I think he was involved somehow when craigavon was built, but it never really got finished. It was supposed to connect portadown with lurgan but lay largely uninhabited or built on until the last 10 yrs or so.
Hello fellow Mk citizen, i must say i thought it would've been over 130
@@smad66 Hello there! Well it might be more now as new districts are being built!
Make the one way out road a dead end or non existent. Then you have “two” blocks they can stack up instead of one
We start with great news today as the city is finally named Missisipatea. This will make things much easier for intercity post , We at City News will be keeping our name so don't worry about that folks.
The much anticipated mertro system began construction with statiions at the Brook Heights shoping district, Cret Square and Spring Hills. The location of the station in Spring Hills has raised many an eyebrow, as it is directly behind the elder care facilty the was relocated several weekes ago right after its intital construction. That not all as the tram tracks have been redicected to loop around the facility. What grudge does Mayor Biffa hold against the residents of this facility?
Despite the addition of the metro and the mayors commitment to walkability inter-city traffic remains abyssmal with tail backs for miles. A new bridge has been construsted in a desparete bid to resolve the situation. The main road has also been widened remomovng planters and parking in order to improve traffic flow. These fixes seem to be working for now but will they hold up as Missisipatea continues to grow.
New offices, parks and trees are sprouting all across the city, but they may soon dry up as a lack of water once again becomes an issue within the city. With both sewage and fresh water facilities struggleing to manage, it is a advised that all citizens keep a stock of bottled water on hand at all times.
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They put three roundabouts in the small town I'm from in North Carolina. They are not common around here. Once they were finished we had so many people not using them right. One elderly woman kept going in It the wrong direction. She kept treating it like a regular junction.
For the traffic issue - there are only 2 roads to get into the large original gridded area and they are very far apart. I would add 2 more equally-spaced connections to that grid off the main road, as well as possibly 2 other connections off that main road to the newest high-density area.
Create those 4 connections as T intersections. If that doesn't help, also delete side-road connections that are very close to the main road entry points.
Lastly, look at destinations of drivers and if certain mass transit, walking, or biking options would help remove cars.
You could just detach the small roads close to the busy intersections to give more space for everyone trying to get through. Just end the street in a stub to keep the zoning. Hope this helps!
Maybe make some roads pedways that are clogging up near the main street. I also have to say, the gap between the road and that one paved foot path is truly maddening!
To reduce the traffic congestion maybe try making the first 2 streets one way, allow the cars in to those first 2 roads then they can exit 2 streets up, that will stop some of traffic congestion, hopefully!
The only issues with this solution is you would still have cars wanting to make a left across traffic which would slow the cars getting out onto the main road. I think the best notion would be to disconnect the first road off the main road. That would allow cars to queue back without interruption and get out faster when the lights change.
On the busy intersection change the one way street to have the first one IN only and the second one OUT only so you give more space for the cars to queue
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maybe an additionnal metro stop in the agricultural area could help. I would also have droped one in the center of crest square and a second one towards the far end of the other area
actually, on metro mass transit, having both loops and non looping lines working together like that is actually pretty good, especially if the line to line connects up two loops or takes people to key locations like a transfer, a major tourist destination, or a hub station.
non looping lines and looping lines have their advantages and disadvantages, and should be used together like you do!!!
Biffa, the great challenge is all those close roads, I think. Doing a square grid is the toughest for traffic... 🤔
It looks super unrealistic too. There are only 2 houses on each block. Most of the land area is roads.
You could disconnect the first road right by the intersection
@15:31 Some people watch horror movies and think "Don't go in there!" I watch people play Cities Skylines and think "Don't bend that path very slightly when a perfect 90 degree connection is possible!"
When you made that Main Street bigger, I immediately thought “Ah, now that’s how people in the US think” 😂 I’m curious to see how this city grows!
@22:30 there is one lane feeding into three - and this is at the entrance to the city from the highway. If there was the left turn lane converted into also a straight on and left, then traffic could get into the city quicker. Lane mathematics in needed at junctions and can be achieved by vehicles sharing lanes - as happens all around the World.
Welcome to driving in American cities! I'm from the Los Angeles area, it's where I learned to drive. I don't live there anymore, so when my husband complains about traffic and there's only ten other cars on the highway always makes me laugh. Another thing I wanted to mention, if you didn't see it, Yumbl put out a "No-weave" Cloverleaf. Not sure it exists anywhere, but it works well and handles massive amounts of traffic with no back up.
I live in a small town of 12k pop. We go "Oh man, its a traffic jam!" if theres more than 3 cars ahead of you at an intersection. Rush "hour" is like 10 minutes around 3pm when all the kiddies get out of school and the soccer moms in their minivans are picking up their kids. 🤣
@@automation7295 I am neither American, nor in the US. The minivan driving soccer mom thing has become a bit of a joke. The kids are being primarily picked up in minivans, and soccer moms is what they have come to be called. Just like not every woman being a bitch is named Karen, but Karen has become a term used to describe a woman being a bitch. No assupmtions were made in the making of my comment.
@@TheOriginalBadger I live in Southeastern Indiana. I used to live in little town in Kentucky when I first left the Los Angeles basin. We had one street light, and rush hour traffic was when the high school home games ended on Fridays or Saturdays. Instead of being able to Drive down Main Street in 3 minutes, it might take you ten. (shrug) ;)
Around 31:00, the problem is that you have the roads running parallel to Main Street joining the perpendicular roads too close to the junction with Main Street and there isn't enough stacking space. For the one near the highway, you could make it a "right in, right out" only junction and put Hugo Through to work so that you don't have cars hanging back from the junction - although at the other end of Main Street that wouldn't really work, and you would be better off just disconnecting the parallel road altogether.
Making that outside road a massive one way system might work too. Cars left, trams right with zig-zagging traffic through it. Make the exit drop underneath the main road so they never have to cross either.
You should look into some covered footpaths. Those are pretty common, especially for paths going over roads in metro areas.
I know it's a game and that its just "USA inspired" but a small USA town of 10-15K could never justify the cost of putting in a metro, let alone an underground metro! A lot probably would not even be able to afford a competent bus network. Just my opinion but I still love your videos!
I live in a city of 30,000 and have 2 bus lines running through the whole city. No trains. No metros. Just that.
Good job we have an incredibly generous and rich mayor ;-)
In my city of 26,000, we have like 3 bus networks and an Amtrack station that only sees one train a day. Our city council decided to spend our covid relief money on new golf carts for the city course that no one uses...
To solve the traffic on the corners of the low density residential area, I think the best solution is to add another connection in the middle. As it is now, everyone going into that residential area are using those two intersections.
That or use an elevated tram (I forget what those are called) to separate it from the road.
Cloud, Aerith - Quick, we need to heal the city!
Biffa - * *summons Meteor* *
In DC, there are no less than THREE roundabouts right behind the White House. Check your paths in the new part of the city that they're connected. It looks like they may not be.
In those very high traffic corner sections, i recommend a one way system forcing them to join a bit further away from (main street), so that the traffic has room to choose where to go, instead of choosing within the space of one block, if that makes sense.... and two minutes later, thats exactly what Biffa suggests himself, lol.
I would removed the 2 roads on the backside of those junctions.. and the main road i would add another junction in the middle.. YA it would turn the T into a 4way But it would add access for the Hi density directly in to the low density area instead of having to do a reach round. Also i would add 1-2 more metro stops on the loop.
Sometimes you can be too close to a problem to see the obvious solution. The funny thing is that Biffa says “The problem is these junctions are to close together” (The main tram road and the two going into the suburbs) Then instead of severing the close junctions he adds a linked traffic light with all these crazy steps. 😂 Nothing but love for Biffa, I’ve been a fan for a long time now. ❤️💯🙌👍
Sometimes I enjoy the challenge of not just deleting things, but trying to work with it and fixing it 👍
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines It makes for good content! Even if I sometimes want to jump through the screen. 😂
I think the main road has become a stroad at this point. Moving the trams one road over into the square would help a bit, and just have some walking paths connecting them.
I know you don't want too many junctions on that main road coming onto the city, but I'm wondering if you haven't gone a bit too far in some places. It seems like adding a few other ways to get in and out of those big residential areas would help. I'd consider adding another road from your industry area road to the first residential area closer to the roundabout. That might bring more people that direction instead of down the main road. You seemed to have solved it temporarily with some timed traffic lights, but in the long run, something else may need to be done. And eventually, some of that will be solved by another road along the railroad tracks that connects to the highway and brings people in from another direction.
"Everyone's going to complain, but they'll just live with it" sounds like the Mayor of my city
The footbridge created around 19 minutes in really could do with being a little more gently sloped - I think you have a couple more nodes to work with before it passes over anything...
i saw a video about tram lights at a times traffic light, you can set them when there is no tram waiting to stay red
Biffa I think it would greatly help to have more connector streets between your residential blocks and the high street. Right now you only have one at each end and it really seems as if it's the volume going through those two intersections that's causing the problem.
If you want to make the American roundabouts accurate you can put stop or yield signs in the roundabout so people will come to a complete stop to let another car into the roundabout.
Love the Mississipatea name.
Welcome to what is so common here in the US, city growth around a collector. City planners are getting better at this now but so many urban cities have super crowded arterial roads with direct access.
Here in San Francisco it can take and Hour to just get across town that's only 7 miles.
Do you still need the original bus station, or could you redirect all the lines to go through your intercity metro hub?
The problem with the underground metro is that they must go very deep to get under the foundations of tall buildings. There was a law suit in LA where the Metro had to pay the owner of a 10 story building that it went under a sum of money because the owner could never put a 20 story building on that lot. (It wasn't likely so the sum was not very much.)
Hi Biffa, I thought 81 tiles will sink your metro everytime you purchase a new tile, is the issue resolved now? or am I missing sth here?
I've said it before but I love looking at the trams in this game. It is just so cozy
A couple of small diamond interchanges in that problem spot would probably help resolve some of the traffic.
I probably would have swapped the Tram System out for a Monorail System, mostly because I have never gotten trams to interact nicely with traffic, so I typically either separate Trams or scrap them.
there is a guy on YT, who has "fix your city" or something like that series. Where he helps with traffic management, maybe you could send him the city, he's pretty good 😉
That quay wall near the train station needs a guard rail for the road!
I think you can place one way roads alternatively going in opposite directions after every block like in Manhattan. That way you will be able to withhold long queues inside the grid.
Makes so much more sense to add two lanes on that main road at the sake of very little parking XD
I believe that instead of the "meteorite solution", you could simply put 1 or 2 more connections from the houses-neighbors to the main central road and that would improve the flow as well... This is a solution I believe "Biffa fixing your city" would suggest! =P
Use all pedestrian underpass instead of bridges exist as well and often in suburb areas and transport areas it may make a better view
22:39 I thought you had turned on the "turn right on red" options with Traffic Manager. If not, set that manually on that intersection so the right lane can clear itself easier. Love the build, that keywall by the bus station turned out awesome, I may do that on some builds. 28:25 When I only have 2 lanes and a light, I keep the left turn and straight together, that way right turns can go at any time without being stuck. The other lane is stuck by the light anyway.
Biffa gotta do a traffic fix in his own city 🤷🏻♀️😂
The gap at the junction was because of people trying to turn left and keep the straight lane free.
Might be a cool idea to connect both sides of the park under road if you know where I mean.
Linking timed traffic lights is an incredibly cool feature. Also east to make things worse with it.
Every time Biffa builds directly on a collector a City Planner somewhere gets a headache.
You can't turn left in most of the 4 roads junctions in my country. Unless you have a traffic light just for that
I think the original residential area needs more connections to the main road. That's a lot of homes/roads forced to leave the area on two small roads. Two or three more connections where the commerical strip is would probably help a ton for the traffic problems
I feel like the realization that you came to while trying to go to sleep is the exact same thought as every American city planner ever. After 50 years of putting in a highway, they realize how dumb it was. lol
Biffa is slowly descending into madness in this one, hopefully he survives by the end of the series
i mean . . you could just hook in the outside power connection . .
That game sems to generate cars to fill up whatever street space that exists. The 3 houses per block doesn't seem possible that there would be people driving enough cars to jam the roads. if there is a statistic that shows the number of vehicles on the road at any one time you probably would find that there are only 2-3 people per vehicle. And everyone and every vehicle is traveling. Just look at 31:45 there are 4-6 houses per square block but there are 20 or more vehicles on their streets. For example take any block and you will see that there are 4-6 houses but there are 12-20 cars on their streets.
Biffa you need to make a forensic examination of where vehicles are going and how long they stay there.
I think something that could possibly help the traffic in the two intersections where the east grid (assuming the hwy is to the north) meets the arterial/collector is to deadend the first north/south running roads to increase the throat length on those busy intersections.
I don't know if anyone else noticed, but when you set the service restrictions on the back part of the city a couple of episodes ago you only restricted them to the Anchor District, which i believe was just the shopping area and not the residential area. So maybe that also contributes to the mass exodus and abandoned houses
32:08 There is at least 1 roundabout here in Austin, TX. We have them, they are just not as common as they should be.
Biffa showing how Americans can make their style of cities more walkable! ^^
I think if you just make that first road into the troubling section one way going in and meeting in the middle to disperse into the rest of the area, it would fix it. I think the part giving you issues is that the traffic coming out of those intersections have no where to go because it's too close to the other junction. Obviously the one way roads wouldn't run into each other but it could give you a better location for services and utilities in the space where that central intersection is. I hope this made sense lol.
A couple of things: On the traffic side I think you sort of accidentally fixed a bit of your problem in adding the one way road into the high density area. Your middle / main / original road will almost always eitehr be overloaded or the roads leading to it will be overloaded because they are the only way to get in and out for the moment. For me, it might be worth it to set an interchange off the highway and send a reasonable size road between the train track and your farming area, with a connection to your industrial area, the farm, and to the "north south" road that goes past the intercity bus, train, and metro interchange in the hickory district. That would provide a secondary way in and out of the area and would help to bypass some traffic from brook heights that might want to get out of the city.
The second thing is the trams. While they are nice in theory, for me the reality is that they are space hungry / resource hungry for the amount of service they provide. With a couple of more stops, your metro could service all of those people and free the roads up from the trams. I think that might have a positive turn on traffic in the area and provide your citizens faster transit from point A to point B.
Finally, in your original grid, you have two roads that I think you could change a bit and make them more productive. At your two entranceways to the area form the main road, you have a residential street very close to the main intersection. I was thinking if they were changed to one way roads that only went towards the middle (ie, no cars coming out, only going in) you could remove the traffic lights on those ones and perhaps even encourage drivers to go one block further up to turn. That would give a much longer space between the big road and the next real intersection, which should help the flow.
(I know, wordy, sorry!)
Carmel indiana is the roundabout capital of the usa
Also i think you need more ways than one into a city of this size. It will really help you out
Metro loop vs. Point-to-Point?
Well, point-to-point works better in reality but the base game has in earlier years created incentives for building loops because it does not provide a variety of transfer stations for point-to-point lines. Yes, the underground section of the Bus-Metro hub is great but you cannot have it without the bus bays on the surface. Yes, Metro Plaza is a good interchange but a smaller version would suit the early game better.
I think the loop is a good match for the needs of Spring Hills - but the metro loop is copying the tram loop and I think the tram loop should be broken up into several point-to-point lines. 4 lines based on each side of the current square shape could be a good start ... and then you extend those lines. Extensions could run into the Crest and Anchor districts.
22:01 This queue is really long and even with your traffic light adjustment you almost need two lanes to turn left - mainly because you main road only offers two chances to turn left into Spring Hills. A third (maybe a fourth) chance to access the district would really help. Road hierarchy is great but it should not become an Iron Curtain or an excuse for bottlenecking.
14:24 This pedestrian crossing could really have a walking connection into Spring Hills ... or even something better: a tram-only road running perpendicular to the main road starting a new tram line that offers connections where streets are disconnected due to road hierarchy. That way could keep a stricter definition of road hierarchy but turn that into an advantage for public transport that can now offer quicker routes.
16:19 You do see, that you have this dirt path behind the commercial building? You could connect that, too. And maybe add pedestrian crossings in the area.
Lol at dreaming of meteorites. Honestly I think it’s the small block size it’s all very compact. Driving down that road would be a living colour nightmare lol because it’s all so close together the traffic doesn’t have much chance to move through junctions. But I know you’ll get there I do trust your judgement.
After everything in Blighty, I’m surprised you haven’t put in any parking lots yet. You need to add lots off the main arterial so they stop using your residential neighborhood as a parking facility
Alot of cars are using the suburb roads, at the end of the main 8Lane section, as a turn around because they cant make a U-turn.
If you watch at 32:10, they just go around the block and join the main road again. Is there a way you could allow U-turns or put very small roundabouts at the end of the 8 lane section of road?
2 Collector Roads on the sides of (Spring Hills) connected to the Arterial would be lovely.
Here where I live there is one massive roundabout and a few roundabouts at 4 way stop intersections in some neighborhoods. We have no idea what we’re doing
Love the video Biffa
The Intercity Bus Hub you have used also has bus stops underneath the roof you can use, so you could move all the bus stops from the Bus Hub to the Intercity Bus Hub.
America has roundabouts all over the place. You don't usually recognize them because they aren't round. The American roundabout is a one way square block with no left turns.. The way it works is the left lane entering the square always has a yield marker or yield light of some kind. Exactly what type of yield marker it is varies depending on the location and the density of the traffic. (From an oldschool red triangle yield marker, to the more common white triangle decals, or the most common flashing yellow or flashing red light.) Then the traffic in the square always has the right of way to go through or exit the square. Ideally you would choose your lane while you go through the intersection. If you are exiting at the next intersection you should exit the junction in the right lane and if you aren't exiting at the next intersection you keep to the left lane. But people tend to be idiots so you can definitely see some mid road lane changes. 😄 Expecially when the lane isn't a solid line and the driver doesn't realize the kind of traffic ystem they are in. And since many people don't even know these exist, let alone spot them when they are met with one.
Also I don't see why you have to choose Mississipitea over Teattle. This is an American city and Mississippitea is not a city sounding name.
It seems like it makes perfect sense that this is the city of Teattle in the state of Mississippiea. Possibly in Balteamore County on the banks of the mighty Minnesotea River. 🤣