Thumbs Up! James at Ray C's is the man! He dyno tuned my 2017 SGS with the S&S 475 cam, V&H Pro Pipe, Arlen Ness Stage 1 Big Sucker air cleaner. It made right at 115 TQ&HP, but the best part was the great torque curve and the bike pulled hard out to 6K RPM. Please NOTE: There is absolutely no other way to properly tune a bike with these mods, without using a dyno. Do not believe anyones BS stating otherwise. Additionally, not all dyno tuners/operators are created equal. I live in Macomb Co, MI and have a choice of 5 HD dealerships and several independent dyno tuners within a 1.5 hour drive radius. I did my research thoroughly ----> Ray Cs (and James Ankley) are all you need to know...
Got the 475 CAM also installed it at 570 miles on bike 128 kit 10.75 compression from Fuelmoto are going in as soon as I get off Call. Glad to know this Combination works for you. Was looking for a powerband just like this with good HP and Great Torque. Should make this a very fun street bike
Impressive Peak Torque Number [154 ft.lb.] and more importantly (IMO) is the torque curve; hits down low and continues into the midrange...perfect IMO (reflects how most of us ride our Harleys the majority of the time). And as expected (with the 475 cam and 128 c.i.) HP was closer to 130 however that torque curve is sweet. Sure, with a bigger cam, HP could be brought up to the 140-145+ range, however more than likely the torque curve would shift upwards (losing some on the low end). Nice build.
FM 128 kit (10.75:1) is in my garage waiting for the Chicago snow to fly. FM and Moonshine both said the low compression 128 kit is the perfect marriage for the 475 cam. I'm 2yrs too late to comment on this video. But, I need to know. It's been two years. How is the bike holding up? Any bottom-end issues?
No bottom end issues.. Still running the stock crank in my bike with 25,000 miles on it - now making over 170HP.. I have a whole new setup on this bike now - check out some of my latest videos for more info!
Great torque, really smooth curve, perfect for where most of the riding is done. Thanks for the vid. Be an interesting vid with dollars per hp/torque as a value per $ type thing.
I would go with S&S 475 over Woods Cam. Stage 2 for Stage 2 against my buddies bike with that cam I pulled away from him. Just giving you an honest review..
did you get it in? I'm doing the same cam, I actually ordered the cam then decided on the 129 kit. hopefully I can come close. the 475 and 22xe are real close 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Nice job bike looks good runs well. Just did the same thing here in Michigan as well mines a 131 similar numbers. Hey like the shocks have the same ones but in black lol.
I just ordered my FM 128 kit too with Rekluse clutch. I already have the 22XE, Riot Pipe RTX shorty and a Typhoon AC/DC 1” air filter. The FM tech said my application would bring great numbers! Can’t wait‼️
Forgot to say Torque is King on the street specially on a Harley which u know are too heavy.You wanna make that bike go faster without adding more power an save money. Start looking for ways to make it lighter. Power to weight ratio is key.
So….. A FM 128” and vh headers with S&S mufflers and a 475 cam? Made those numbers? Anything else??? Because that’s exactly what I have with about two less on the horsepower and roughly 10 less on the torque… Is it all just in the tune? I Gotta know!!
Thank You! If I went with a bigger cam, I would have to do heads and I don't think its worth spending another $2,000 for 5-10hp.. This setup makes killer TQ down low for whats done to it and that's all I care about.
Nice build & Great TQ #'s !! My 18 RGS had a 128ci, and now it is a 124ci with a Fueling 592, doing the 1st 500mile break-in on a run-in map, then we will see what it can do. Hey - what is the rear brake pedal?
I ran the s&s 475 in my 128 131 hp 155 torque and that little cam rips then i put in the s&s 540 not a whole lot of difference 136 hp 155 torque but out of the hole that 540 is pretty nasty has the feeling of pulling your arms out of socket now my next build is going to be nasty 12.1 comp with the cycle rama 540 and max head effort from rick ward
Great content man, one question I have is that if you can please list the cost for the set up you currently have which would be good comparison with what Harley is selling their “stages”. Keep up the good work!
I provided a link to everything purchased in the description of the video. You can see the cost of each part on Fuel moto's website. This Stage 3 upgrade has cost me around $2500 just for parts.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS I see it. Thank you very much. I think that is a fair price compare to what Harley Davidson offers. I like the numbers you got on the dyno and I will definitely be going this direction.
It was pretty far off surprisingly. Very Rich because it was just to run heat cycles through the motor.. It took him about 5 hours to perfect the tune..
Hey whats going on? Gauges look good. Ray C's is great shop, experienced mechanics, they love hot rods and racing of all kinds. James @ Ray C's dyno tunes my bike. I have the HP record there 260hp out of my lil 98" Catch me out at Lapeer Drag way here in a few weeks we will be testing
It's a good family friend of mine, very good mechanic, he doesn't actually have a shop or any social media that is why you can't find him. He does this type of work on the side. But if you are in Michigan and looking for a top notch Harley Mechanic, email me and I will give you his info. Thanks.
🤔I think those are excellent numbers 🧐I think with a different cam you would have had different numbers, however 🤔I think that those are great numbers for the cam that you use s&s makes cams for a 128 specifically that will produce more horsepower but I don't think it would have much bigger torque💪🏽 at this point you'd just be chasing horsepower numbers I think you're torque numbers are excellent so stick with what you got, and enjoy it 😎
Because I was able to get everything I needed from FM, and they are a great help on the phone if I have any questions, so I like to give them my business and buy everything through them..
@@dannyryan5549 The best place to break in a engine is on the dyno where temp, afr etc can be monitored. The first 50 mile with the wrong can tune can do a lot of damage. Just my .02 cent
Everyone and their mother are trying to convince me to get another cam for the 128 kit! Im convinced that setup (128kit 475c se64mm throttle body)on my low rider st will absolutely scream
Just wish I would've followed your lead and gone with your engine upgrade set up, instead I went with the HD screaming eagle stage 3 which is nothing but an overly expensive disappointment.
Yeah, unfortunately there are a lot of people out there in your same boat. I try to tell all my local friends this too. That warranty sounds nice when purchasing your parts, however when you're getting gapped by a bike with aftermarket parts it's very frustrating and disappointing. I was beating up on full 131 H-D builds last year with my little stage 2 S&S 475 cam. They couldn't understand lol
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS fuck that warranty the warranty is only good if the bike blows up or something serious happens Harleys are pretty strong bikes they won’t fail until after the two-year years I already did the cam next is like what you did thanks for the video
Got a question , why didn't you do any break in miles? Reason I ask is most local dynos won't touch my bike unless I do 500 easy miles.. What's your take?
Yeah.... but it's a BMW....German Goldwing....no panty dropping potential.... been to a GW rally on a GW.... been to a HD rally on 21 RG that I traded GW for.... pics that can't be shared here...lol All about what we want, how we identify, and makes us happy. If I want to go fast I'll hop on my Busa that's modded out and smash north of 170mph all day long. You love what you ride and that you're riding is all that matters. BTW... K160B great bike rode one b4 GW purchase, but just lacking the panache a custom HD build brings. Ride safe, ride hard, dress for the slide not the ride.👊🏾
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Thumbs Up! James at Ray C's is the man! He dyno tuned my 2017 SGS with the S&S 475 cam, V&H Pro Pipe, Arlen Ness Stage 1 Big Sucker air cleaner. It made right at 115 TQ&HP, but the best part was the great torque curve and the bike pulled hard out to 6K RPM. Please NOTE: There is absolutely no other way to properly tune a bike with these mods, without using a dyno. Do not believe anyones BS stating otherwise. Additionally, not all dyno tuners/operators are created equal. I live in Macomb Co, MI and have a choice of 5 HD dealerships and several independent dyno tuners within a 1.5 hour drive radius. I did my research thoroughly ----> Ray Cs (and James Ankley) are all you need to know...
Totally agree with have your bike dyno ASAP!
153+ is great. Torque is King! Another example of Road Glide perfection. Life is good.
Brutal dude that thing sounds great ! As soon as you started it I could tell.
Got the 475 CAM also installed it at 570 miles on bike 128 kit 10.75 compression from Fuelmoto are going in as soon as I get off Call. Glad to know this Combination works for you. Was looking for a powerband just like this with good HP and Great Torque. Should make this a very fun street bike
Great #’s heads and different cam 150+ hp/torque easy. It’ll be fun ride! Thanks for sharing.
Hell ya man those are awesome numbers for that cam I’m going todo the same thing but I have the 485 cam
We love ray’s he supports our RUclips channel really well we buy our machines from him
Very nice!! Love the build. Man I gotta say this road glide is best I have ever seen. Love it bro!
Impressive Peak Torque Number [154 ft.lb.] and more importantly (IMO) is the torque curve; hits down low and continues into the midrange...perfect IMO (reflects how most of us ride our Harleys the majority of the time). And as expected (with the 475 cam and 128 c.i.) HP was closer to 130 however that torque curve is sweet. Sure, with a bigger cam, HP could be brought up to the 140-145+ range, however more than likely the torque curve would shift upwards (losing some on the low end). Nice build.
I'm doing the same kit with the 22xe woods cam. hopefully I get close to this.
Very nice, we learn that every performance cam has a different timing curve. Nice job!
Awesome build. Can’t wait to see a ride video.
Bike motor turned out great and the the dyno is just a tool for tuning. Can’t wait to see some ride videos soon
I loved that air cleaner on my bike, had to take it off when I put lowers on. Went back to the oval with the FM BMF.
He did my 131 and Dyno tune on my 22 limited. James is a professional for sure
Good to hear!
FM 128 kit (10.75:1) is in my garage waiting for the Chicago snow to fly. FM and Moonshine both said the low compression 128 kit is the perfect marriage for the 475 cam. I'm 2yrs too late to comment on this video. But, I need to know. It's been two years. How is the bike holding up? Any bottom-end issues?
No bottom end issues.. Still running the stock crank in my bike with 25,000 miles on it - now making over 170HP.. I have a whole new setup on this bike now - check out some of my latest videos for more info!
Those are great numbers. 150+ torque is amazing
128ci and still with a chrome kickstand lol! nice build Brother enjoy!
You got me.. lol
Great torque, really smooth curve, perfect for where most of the riding is done. Thanks for the vid. Be an interesting vid with dollars per hp/torque as a value per $ type thing.
great job and thaks for all the detail info " i am looking at the same kit with a Woods WM8-22XE for my 2019cvo RG, I love the torque numbers
I would go with S&S 475 over Woods Cam. Stage 2 for Stage 2 against my buddies bike with that cam I pulled away from him. Just giving you an honest review..
did you get it in? I'm doing the same cam, I actually ordered the cam then decided on the 129 kit. hopefully I can come close. the 475 and 22xe are real close 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Nice job bike looks good runs well. Just did the same thing here in Michigan as well mines a 131 similar numbers. Hey like the shocks have the same ones but in black lol.
Nice! That torque goin pull like a freight train!!
Yeah, She pulls hard!
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS 💯
Great Vid man. I need to dyno my 128 and see what numbers she gets. Your build is coming along nicely.
128c.i." +475ss cam.=excellence!!💥😁👌
really enjoy the Harley content!
I just ordered my FM 128 kit too with Rekluse clutch. I already have the 22XE, Riot Pipe RTX shorty and a Typhoon AC/DC 1” air filter. The FM tech said my application would bring great numbers! Can’t wait‼️
What 128 kit did you get? Curious your numbers. I have the same cam and trying to figure which compression to go with.
@@ryant3694 I just ordered my kit today so I’ll know soon. Thanks
@@ryant3694 Go with the 10.75 | 1 Compression Kit.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTSwhy not 11.0?
Excellent video 👍
My guess was 130 HP and 140 torque I was wrong , the Torque is great your stuff is so nice 154 wow can't wait to see what else you have planned .
Nope
Hey great numbers, can i ask the brands of your floor boards and crash bar, and are the brake and shifter extended, the bike looks mint
You're going to need another Harley to keep the channel moving with all them mods! Low Rider?! Enjoy your vids brotha 🤘
Nice build,one should never forget there's no substitute for cubic inches for fast street bike or a car on pump gas...
Forgot to say Torque is King on the street specially on a Harley which u know are too heavy.You wanna make that bike go faster without adding more power an save money. Start looking for ways to make it lighter. Power to weight ratio is key.
So…..
A FM 128” and vh headers with S&S mufflers and a 475 cam? Made those numbers? Anything else???
Because that’s exactly what I have with about two less on the horsepower and roughly 10 less on the torque… Is it all just in the tune? I Gotta know!!
No, Wrong. I don't have VH Headers, or S&S mufflers lol
Very nice torque curve. Is the dB level acceptable on a day trip ? I have a 124ci with 475 cam too 👌
Great great series! If you could in the near future would you up your CAM to a bigger one?
Thank You! If I went with a bigger cam, I would have to do heads and I don't think its worth spending another $2,000 for 5-10hp.. This setup makes killer TQ down low for whats done to it and that's all I care about.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS that's the info I need too!! Absolutely right! That torque is enough to snap your neck lol
Awesome!!!! Great job!!!
Sweet Build ! 👍
Nice build & Great TQ #'s !! My 18 RGS had a 128ci, and now it is a 124ci with a Fueling 592, doing the 1st 500mile break-in on a run-in map, then we will see what it can do. Hey - what is the rear brake pedal?
What were you numbers with the canned tune?
They only gave me a remote base tune to start the bike, not to run it over 3k RPMs.
Rear Brake Pedal - where do we get that bad boy?
Here you go: jokermachine.com/collections/footpegs/products/serrated-fl-brake-pedal-cover-black
Those torque numbers are great! Are you still running the RTX baffle?
Love the content keep it coming.
Running fuel moto 128 with 475 cam with fullsac headpipe and s&s mufflers
Amazing video
You about to put standard bags on?
Stay tuned for the next video dropping Wednesday! Big Changes coming to the Road Glide!
I ran the s&s 475 in my 128 131 hp 155 torque and that little cam rips
then i put in the s&s 540 not a whole lot of difference 136 hp 155 torque but out of the hole
that 540 is pretty nasty has the feeling of pulling your arms out of socket now my next
build is going to be nasty 12.1 comp with the cycle rama 540 and max head effort from
rick ward
What heads are you running
Nice video and build! Beautiful bike. What compression you running in that setup? Looking at building my motor soon in my glide soon
10.75|1
Shift linkage? Love the carbon fiber
I believe it said Brock’s
Brocks Performance
Cool beans I have a 131 that runs like a beast. More torque and more horsepower and I just road to Cali and back.
Exhaust system could help.
Building my 128 Fuelmoto tonight. Hey man where did you get those Sick Decals for your Tank and Side covers
Nice! I got them from Choice Cycle on Instagram but I think we went out of business..
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS Darn I'll check thanks
Hi Doo. I have the same 128 kit as you ready to be installed but with a 22xe cam. Mb I should swap out for a 475?
Both cams perform about the same, I like the Loap a little more from the 475.
Great content man, one question I have is that if you can please list the cost for the set up you currently have which would be good comparison with what Harley is selling their “stages”. Keep up the good work!
I provided a link to everything purchased in the description of the video. You can see the cost of each part on Fuel moto's website. This Stage 3 upgrade has cost me around $2500 just for parts.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS I see it. Thank you very much. I think that is a fair price compare to what Harley Davidson offers. I like the numbers you got on the dyno and I will definitely be going this direction.
@@saifrushdi1319 Glad I could help with your decision!
Awesome video how fast do you think this bike is from 0 to 60?
pretty quick!
Good torque numbers now I really want to spend the money 😁😁
Great video! Just curious how close was the base tune that they sent you and how long did it take to Dyno tune?
It was pretty far off surprisingly. Very Rich because it was just to run heat cycles through the motor.. It took him about 5 hours to perfect the tune..
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS I experienced the same thing with the fuel moto canned tunes. Better than lean though.
@@ryant3694 Forsure!
Hey whats going on? Gauges look good.
Ray C's is great shop, experienced mechanics, they love hot rods and racing of all kinds.
James @ Ray C's dyno tunes my bike. I have the HP record there 260hp out of my lil 98" Catch me out at Lapeer Drag way here in a few weeks we will be testing
Hey Jim! Yeah, James had great things to say about you and your monster of a bike lol I will definitely see you out at Lapeer this season!
I am glad you were able to see that canned maps can be harmful. Good that hd let you hang out most don't 👍
Looks like a beast bro🤘🤘
My neighbor is ray c’ nephew great group of people up there
That’s awesome bro !!! Imagine if you was to put a S&S540 cam on that beast
I’m guessing 136/147 for numbers assuming the S&S 475
Hey bud just wondering what kinda seat is that
Weird comment about 475 cam! My 122 made 132HP, so it's not the cam is the tuner. TQ great though.
Anymore information on Wheaties performance . I looked them up and can't seem to find anything about them
It's a good family friend of mine, very good mechanic, he doesn't actually have a shop or any social media that is why you can't find him. He does this type of work on the side. But if you are in Michigan and looking for a top notch Harley Mechanic, email me and I will give you his info. Thanks.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS yeah I am in Plymouth michigan .
how do I find ur email
@@stephenmckinley8855 dooworkproductions22@gmail.com
@Doowork Productions is this kit simular to the Zippers 128 sleeper kit?
It's close!
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS what's the difference between the two?
Loud ticking noise after I did a S&S 128 kit that starts around 2500-3500 rpm… Any answers?
Pushrod adjustment. Happened to me. Check your pushrods at TDC again and see if you have one miss adjusted.
Awesome numbers!
🤔I think those are excellent numbers 🧐I think with a different cam you would have had different numbers, however 🤔I think that those are great numbers for the cam that you use s&s makes cams for a 128 specifically that will produce more horsepower but I don't think it would have much bigger torque💪🏽 at this point you'd just be chasing horsepower numbers I think you're torque numbers are excellent so stick with what you got, and enjoy it 😎
It’s probably great 0-100. How does the upper end feel? Good passing power? 153 is great!
Yeah it feels great!
Any particular reason why you went with a FM kit vs. Just going S&S only?
Because I was able to get everything I needed from FM, and they are a great help on the phone if I have any questions, so I like to give them my business and buy everything through them..
Bro where can I get the Lucky Dave’s seat??? They’re sold out 😢
Not sure, I got mine 3 years ago lol
No break in necessary before dyno tune?
Just heat cycles. I put about 20 miles on it before strapping it to the dyno..
Help me to understand . I thought 1000 miles was the standard for break ins
@@dannyryan5549 No lol all I had to break in were the new pistons and rings.
@@dannyryan5549 The best place to break in a engine is on the dyno where temp, afr etc can be monitored. The first 50 mile with the wrong can tune can do a lot of damage. Just my .02 cent
Everyone and their mother are trying to convince me to get another cam for the 128 kit!
Im convinced that setup (128kit 475c se64mm throttle body)on my low rider st will absolutely scream
It rips down low! Lose some power up top because of the smaller cam, but I have been very impressed and satisfied with this setup!
Guessing here on the peak numbers, while I paused the video. Guessing [for a 128 cu.in. M8, S&S 475 Cam, Stock Heads]: 138hp & 142FtLb. Tq.
Did you sell the trx?
No pov footage 😔
What are your front led turning lights?
Custom Dynamics LED Rings
How did you get the blue light behind your gauges?
Contact Jim at Gauge Modz. He is the best in the business. Local guy to me here in Michigan.
Which tuner did you/they use for it?
I use a DynoJet Powervision.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS cool right on
Didn't know Brock was makin Harley stuff now lol,damn i been outta the Hogg gm too long.#outdoorboys205youtube
Just wish I would've followed your lead and gone with your engine upgrade set up, instead I went with the HD screaming eagle stage 3 which is nothing but an overly expensive disappointment.
Yeah, unfortunately there are a lot of people out there in your same boat. I try to tell all my local friends this too. That warranty sounds nice when purchasing your parts, however when you're getting gapped by a bike with aftermarket parts it's very frustrating and disappointing. I was beating up on full 131 H-D builds last year with my little stage 2 S&S 475 cam. They couldn't understand lol
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS fuck that warranty the warranty is only good if the bike blows up or something serious happens Harleys are pretty strong bikes they won’t fail until after the two-year years I already did the cam next is like what you did thanks for the video
Got a question , why didn't you do any break in miles? Reason I ask is most local dynos won't touch my bike unless I do 500 easy miles.. What's your take?
@@shawn9878 best break in you can do is on a dyno. Plus only thing not broken in on this bike are the rings and cylinder walls
@@shawn9878 I put about 20 break in miles on the new motor. That was plenty of break in miles for the new pistons and rings.
What size throttle body and compression?
I know the throttle body is a 62mm HPI.
146hp 152tq
I was close on the tq.
Dang it😮
Another RUclipsr took his 107 to a Zippers 124 with a stage 4 and his numbers are 153/153 and a stage 4 isn’t going to give you 20hp.
Hell yeah! I found someone with same jugs and cam as you , check out, VtwinsNDiesels channel. You killed it. You have better exhaust and intake. ✌️
135hp 145tq
Where the hellcat at man
Sold it..
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS oh that’s sad 😢
@@malwinderdhaliwal6544 Yeah, I miss it, but I couldn't turn down the profit I made off it lol
You can’t test an air cleaner on a dyno! The ram air changes everything.
You should trade it in for a Honda. They look amazing.
🤣🤣🤣
go retest the bike you tested with a stage 2 on the road!!!
Oh it already went down lol GAPBAND!
152 154
Is that Donald Trump on back wall!
No, That's Ray C, the owner of the dealership..
That HD transmission will not last past this riding season.
I guess will see won't we...
1st
Not correct! He wasn’t running it all out in 6th gear. Harley Dyno no good. Take it to a real tuner
I did..
Spend all that time and money and get smoked by K1600B. Stock.
Yeah.... but it's a BMW....German Goldwing....no panty dropping potential.... been to a GW rally on a GW.... been to a HD rally on 21 RG that I traded GW for.... pics that can't be shared here...lol All about what we want, how we identify, and makes us happy. If I want to go fast I'll hop on my Busa that's modded out and smash north of 170mph all day long. You love what you ride and that you're riding is all that matters. BTW... K160B great bike rode one b4 GW purchase, but just lacking the panache a custom HD build brings. Ride safe, ride hard, dress for the slide not the ride.👊🏾
You’d be surprised how close a 1/4 mile race would be. My $ would be on the Harley! Top end of course the bmw!
That guy doesn't even know what he's doing he's sitting on the bike?
Just get an Indian Challenger and go stage 2 💨💨💨🥱