All 20 ✔Mid-Size Adventure Bikes✔ for 2023 Compared (Buyer's Guide)
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Mid-Size or middleweight adventure bikes are all the rage right now, combining decent highway performance without being overly heavy and big for off road riding. With many new entrants for 2023, it was time to sit down and compare the 20 offerings for 2023. #motorcycle #adv #advrider #motorbike
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00:00 Intro
02:19 Size Classes
07:32 KLR650
09:42 Benelli TRK502
11:27 Benelli TRK702
12:34 MotoMorini X-Cape
14:08 V-Strom 650
15:59 BMW F750GS
17:43 Yamaha Tenere 700
19:46 Honda XL750 Transalp
21:38 V-Strom 800DE
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30:17 Africa Twin
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42:17 Tiger 900 Rally
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Exactly the kind of video i was looking for---thanks!!!!
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About the Vstrom meaning:
V-Strom combines V, referring to the bike's V engine configuration (older one), with the German word Strom, meaning stream or current.
DE means "Dual Explorer" 👍
Your buyers guide is a great concept. I would love to see you add bikes (CRF350L, KLX300, etc) and update the info.
Big Rock Moto is in a class of its own!
Exceptional research, professional presentation with unmatched commitment to supporting viewers!
Thank you!
Wow, that must've taken many hours to put together, thanks for all the hard work!
Wow Ian! Thank you so much for this video and ESPECIALLY, the document! That's a lot of work to put together. Most appreciated!
As a Chinese, I'm quite sure that QJ motor is not trustworthy since it's notorious in the Chinese mainland, while the Kove and CF motor are better
I’m really interested in that kove rally
@@RIDGIEDESIGNS This has a good reputation in the Chinese Internet and it's the cheapest rally bike which can join the Dakar in China, but I think you need to consider about the after-sale service if you want to buy one in the US because that company is really young and small.
How is Loncin reputation within China?
@@Marc-zf3xv Loncin's engine is good, maybe one of the best among Chinese motor corporations, but their motors as a whole are controversial these years.
Among the most trustworthy "Chinese bikes" you can never fail with Haojue.
They produce like 50% of entire Suzuki lineup lol. Same quality control too.
So helpful. I also appreciate the info on things like changing the air filter. For those of us who don't live close to dealers, being able to do basic maintenance is vital. As an owner of an Africa Twin, I'm definitely going to put access to the air filter and battery as priorities for my next bike. And as a rider who only wants the capability of doing basic off-road, I'm not making the off-road capability as much a priority as the overall comfort and reliability.
Great to see V85TT on here. Most reviewers don't even give it the time of day which is a shame because it's a great bike. I traded my 2017 AT for the V85 and don't regret it at all. I found the AT very capable but pretty boring overall. (Yes, I did ride it as intended. Plenty of woods and trail miles) but The V85TT has become my favorite bike I've ever owned. It just speaks to me and I find the more I ride it, the more I fall in love with it. So easy to maintain, so much character (cliche but true) and does pretty good off road if you aren't trying to get too gnarly. Thanks for including in this list.
My brother bought one from new and had nothing but issues with it. They could not get the mapping right and it would surge and backfire constantly. He also said quality was so-so.
@@andrewtreloar7389 Mine is a 2022 also and I've had zero problems so far. Since you mentioned mapping, it sounds like a dealer issue or your brother got a lemon.
@@werewolfonwheels I reckon he got a lemon to be honest.
Ima pleased owner of the 2022 v85 with zero issues. Have had: Kawa, Yamaha , Harley, and a v65sp prior. Love the Guzzi. ZERO issues. Great sporty but comfy ride. Valve adjust is a one hour job. And, important to me; Its different. Im not a fan of "same as yours"
@@bruceramseyramsey2605 I hear you Bruce, I like them to be honest and the shaft drive is a bonus (no chain adjustment or oiling!)
As someone who has been searching for months for the right bike I appreciate the detailed reviews. Not just these, but the specific bike views as well. Keep it up!
Incredibly useful to your subscribers Ian. This was a lot of work and I appreciate it ! ✌️
great video, the added buyers guide is a great touch!
Thanks Ian. These are invaluable for bike shoppers. Same with your spreadsheets. Before I discovered yours I was making my own. What a pain! I am still on a waitlist for a CRF300 rally b/c I really think that light weight will work for me. If it doesn't show by riding season, I'm seriously considering just moving up to the Tuareg. Is that nuts for a returning rider?
I moved from CRF250L to Tuareg and 2000 km later I'm pretty much just as confident on Tuareg as I was on the Honda off-road. No need to be scared, it's a nice and friendly bike.
Just bought TRK502 (road version). It is heavy and top heavy for sure. However, if you can get used to it it is a lovely machine for the price. It does deliver plenty of room for the rider, passenger and luggage. Ride is also quite smooth, wind protection is good.
Another awesome video. I've got handwritten spreadsheets comparing most of these. I've got a lot of road experience, but just getting into adv. Since I am vertically challenged, I'm leaning toward the KLR 650S. That lower seat makes a huge difference for me. Thanks for the information.
Hi Ian, great job with the buyer's guide, must have taken a lot of work. One thing I can tell you from the UK is how excited the vast majority of journalists are who have tested the new Honda Hornet and Transalp, they have raved about the new 750cc Parallel twin engine in both bikes with 91 bhp, and a 270 degree crank. The naked hornet is £6.999 on road and the Transalp £9.499. They basically say on paper the Transalp is nothing special but in reality it's really really good, in fact only a little behind the Tenere 700 off road, and on road blows it into the weeds. Hope you get both bike's soon. Thank you.
Τransalp 750 hands down.
Good work compiling this, thanks.👍
Can I suggest if you do another one you include max payload. This often causes me to rule bikes out because I like to take them out two up with camping kit as well. The triumphs are often very good on this, but it's never easy finding out max payloads.
You're the man! This is so damn good, thank you for all your effort! The spreadsheet is perfect, smart move to divide it into different categories since last time around and great layout.
Thanks for all the effort you put in your videos!! Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
I spent 2 years researching and testing and ended up with the Tiger 900 Rally Pro. ON road it's 95% of the GT and off road, can go places above my skill level but I'll get there. Many Baja trips now and soon starting BDRs. I love this bike even more that I thought. The display irritates me a bit but small price to pay for the fun and adventure and comfort and performance!
Terribly expensive
yep...but many are more expensive.@@podunkman2709
A huge effort Ian, very informative overall! Thanks!
That's just awesome! I can't believe you created these downloads for us. Thank you so much! Love your content. Keep going! I was so impressed! I just bought one of your t-shirts 🙂
BIG thank you for putting this together, and giving your viewers the ability to print it for free. Hands down the best site I go to for off-road motorcycle reviews.
Another great data driven summary. Few moto-journalists have owned as many bikes to produce content and I appreciate that. I'm not one that can decide if I like a bike or not off a short test ride. It takes me time, like months, to decide. Of course that complicates the decision process for those of us that can't switch bikes as often as you do but your content does a lot to bridge that gap. Keep up the great work and know it's appreciated. Thanks....
Awesome vid mate and thanks for the guide.
Your videos are awesome. Very valuable and informative information as I’m researching these bikes and looking to get into the ADV riding class. Thank you!
Holy moly buddy big thanks for the buyers guide. Bloody lot of work went into that. It was something that I wanted to do myself as a new purchaser when I saw that I subscribed instantly. What a legend you are buddy!
Hi Ian, really great job as usual. I was wondering if it could be useful to add a passenger's comfort vote in your detailed reviews.
Keep it up.
Lamps from Italy
Terrific job as always Ian. Looking forward to the reviews on some of the newer bikes coming out.
This is EXCELLENT work - thanks Ian. Saved
36:57
Yeeeah boy!
Get mine any day now!
Can’t wait!
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Thanks for another amazing video Ian!
Thank you! I'm sure I'll watch this 10 times between now and my planned 2024 move into this segment from my entry level bike.
As per usual, great informative video. One(sort of)negative - as a taller (6'6", 36 leg) rider, I get a little tired of references to shorter riders.
It would be hugely beneficial if seat-to-peg length could be mentioned. I know I can get a raised seat, but it would be nice to how the bike comes standard
Well stated!
@@mfranquemont1884 Exactly, almost all road bikes are geared towards the vertically challenged. Give us something please!!!!
Hats off for the effort and ranking all these bikes. Great work!
This is completely incredible, thank you so much. I’ll look up if you’ve made a video about lightweight advs
Wow you really put the time in thank you. Definitely using your links.
Many thanks for the PDF Ian, keep up the good work, you're content is always great to watch!!!
Thanks, will do!
I love when you nerd out like this! Great job!
Once again Ian, great informative video…. After a lengthy demo ride on the CFMoto 800T 2 weeks ago in Daytona and being a GSA owner for the last 10 years and 65+k miles…I can unequivocally say that the 2023 GSA is not worth nearly 3x the price of the 2023 800T… But after a rough calculation of the dealer F.U Fees for the CFMoto, it’s OTD price will be dangerously close to that of the base KTM 890 translating into a hard sell for CFMoto….We look forward to your future review of the CFMoto… kudos
As a side note , we subscribers truly appreciate your time ,effort and production value of your reviews….
CFMoto 800MT here in Australia is AUD$14,500 ride away. That's $8,000 cheaper than the Tuareg with less features and less horsepower. The Tuareg is not an $8k better bike, especially on-road
THE BEST ADV BIKE INFO.... ON THE TUBE
Great video as always Ian!! Thanks!!
Ian! great video, just what I needed, ty. You must put in an extraordinary amount of work. Always top-notch content and thoughtful.
As always - lots of effort input into the guide - really appreciated! Content-wise the number of "non rated" bikes was a bit too high. Also, I'm still of an opinion that a 150-dollar Puig/Givi screen will MUCH improve the highway riding comfort on most of the bikes (which is usually poor with the stock/OEM solutions) so this is something to be kept in mind.
Holy Cow!
You did lots of work.
Thank you.
Amazing.
Massive thanks.
Great info once again..also will be looking forward to you being able to test and review the bikes that are on this list that you have not reviewed as of yet..
Stellar job Bud.Lotsa work.Thank you.
Great vid!
I am not really in the market for an addition, but you are doing such a great job with your videos, and your buyer's guides are excellent!
Outstanding (as always). Love your work Ian 👍
Fantastic Ian. Thanks. I'm looking for a mid weight, saw you'd done this and just felt confidant that the info would be relevant and honest and informative. I knew it! Can always trust you. Thanks. Jim, UK.
Glad it was helpful!
You are without a doubt one of, if not the most, thorough reviewer on RUclips. Thank you!
amazing video and so informative. Thank you for collating all these bikes into an easy to watch review.
Wow, very impressive Ian 👍 Great details in the compilation. Too bad there's not more data on the 800DE + TransAlp. You really helped people out with that!!!
I've been watching your vids for a couple months so I finally subscribed. Even if I'm not that interested in a bike, I'll watch your vid about it because of your production and honest review quality. I see only the mid-weight bikes on your PDF, no light- or heavy-weight listings. :( Keep up the good work!
Great review! I also very much appreciate the download file. Thank you!
Great reviews, most appreciated, great work. Enjoy your channel!
Thanks Ian. Very thorough and well thought out.
Great work and honest evaluation on all models. Thank you for putting all of this in one place
Thanks for all this work!
I really enjoy your content Ian! Keep up the great work. Greetings from Brazil!
Excellent program. Love your work!
Thank you Ian. This is awesome. The channel is awesome. You're awesome! Cheers. 😊✌
Great video. Thanks.
Thanks Ian. Great breakdown of what's available.
Thank you for the great video.... nice sideburns!
great info thank you for putting it all in one convient place!
ive asked him similar question on instagram and i feel like this video was made for me , thanks !
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Wow, what an effort! Great review!
There might always be opinions on subjective thoughts, even on facts...
I dont care - You are, hands down, the best motorcycle reviewer I have seen!
Thank you for all the work you put into your youtube channel!
gonna buy a bike in a few weeks, so very helpful, thank you!
Good information, and unbiased review as usual Ian. I would like to see a couple more categories added to the scoring, some of which you mentioned, all which are based on riding characteristics. For me, those are just the start, several other factors are equally or more important 1) Ease of maintenance/maintenance intervals - this is a big one for me. I want to spend my precious time riding and not wrenching and I hope others do too! 2) Dealer network/availability of parts - this is a factor with more than one of the bikes in this category. 3) Cost of operation - this may be hard to pin down but for some of us, it's a real factor. 4) Availability of aftermarket parts/modifications - for those of us doing real adventuring with these bikes, this is a big one.
As an aside, I believe the Ducati is recommended to run on premium fuel only. That's a non-starter for me. I visited several gas stations in remote areas last year that didn't have premium fuel.
It s biased as hell excluding KTM 790 which is easily the best.
Great! You should update this buyers guide when you have testet some of these interesting models like the famous Transalp and also have updates on the pricing! (with a Part 2).
It's a solid base line for discussions on what to buy or even how much off-road someone "needs". I really like that you didn't overhype the T7 as much as others do.
As a V-Strom 650 XT rider I do also see it in the same league with the focus more in off-road with the T7 and in comfort with the V-Strom. And I have the feeling that many T7 buyers complain at the end of the day about missing comfort at a longer trip and seldomly go off-road although media is flooded with some few off-road cracks that do use the T7. But the majority don't ... and my "little" V-Strom holds up quite nice especially in light off-road which I do while traveling.
I see a disconnect between the feelings and dreams advertised with that adventure bike hype (going off-road like with a dual sports machine or having like 170 hp) and the reality of average riders doing like 5K miles a years (tops!) with 95% on roads, which for me is also totally fine.
ps. "DE" with the Suzi V-Strom 800 and 1050 stands for "dual explorer" which I understand as their interpretation of a dual sports and an explorer/ adventure bike mixture! DE for me is also funny because these are the initials in German for Germany (DE = Deutschland). To be honest: I think they should have also used their "XT" for this category since with the 650 it already is the more off-road focussed variant of the V-Strom.
XT would have been the much more logical branding for me as "DE" is.
p.p.s. I do see the AT a bit higher in ranking. It's very comfortable (more a 4 than a 3), especially compared to the T7, it brings more off-road capability to the table as the V85 TT and with that reliability and comfort the "fun factor" during traveling day after day should therefore be higher. Of course for many people the fun factor is the excitement on a short ride. But for me this factor shifts on an Adventure travel bike to "fun with riding another 250 miles after the lunch break".
The clear "winners" of this list are the bikes with the most price/ performance ... meaning more points per 1000 dollars in a ratio.
I bought my V-Strom used for about 6000 € which means more than 2 points per 1000 €. That transforms directly to fun, riding and actually using the bike as intended.
Love this review!
Thorough , excellent and consistent with my own experiences. Helpful to anyone in the market.
Thank you for that extremely helpful video! :)
You are a dead set legend!! Thanks for the info. Liked and commented on as requested!!
Great work Ian, very useful and put together information.
Loved the video, everything was on point brother.
Excellent video Ian I enjoy you channel and overall approach vto bike reviews, I like your honesty and knowledgeable reviews, giving the bikes a true test on and off road, even including picking them up which as you highlight is an important factor for all bike, especially off-road bikes, something I've learnedvthe hard way when I dropped my Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 after clipping a kerb at low speed, it was very heavy to pickup. Keep up the good work.
That's a great video!! Thank you :)
Keep up the fantastic work Ian!
Very comprehensive guide thanks 👍
Awesome job Ian!
Excellent video. I can’t imagine how much time and effort that went into making this video. Thanks for the detailed analysis and information.
Glad it was helpful!
OMG! That is so informative and just so helpful! It must have taken you ages to put together and is much appreciated!.....Do you have one for the lightweight bikes??
As an owner of a Tiger Rally Pro, I can attest to it’s all around goodness. Key thing is to read the owner’s manual for suspension set up. You are instructed to remove all preload in the rear and stiffen up the front for off road riding. That makes a big difference on calming the twitchy off road behavior. Yes it’s expensive, but as they say, you get what you pay for, in spades in this case.
These vids are really great 👍 thanks
Fantastic stuff, thanks! I picked up my 2023 KTM 890 Adventure R, and can confirm the wind buffeting is fixed with the new windscreen.
Well done. Looking forward to your reviews on the new Transalp and 800DE
Hey Ian, this is a lot of effort, congratulations for such a great work and thank you for sharing it with the world.
On another video, mentioned about the importance to consider the weight/power ratio. Is that something that you could include in your comparison chart? If I recall well, you explained how it was important to consider the power of the motorcycle compared to the weight.
Cheers!
Well done Ian; like it!!
your reviews and buyer's guides are top notch, thanks a lot for making them!❤
Glad you like them!
Thanks for making these lists. I think of all the upcoming Chinese bikes, I'd really like to see you get your hands on the Kove 450 rally. I've seen a couple other people get ahold of a pre-production model from GPX but I would really like to see what you think after spending some time with it.
You have a pretty brilliant and unique format here.
Love your channel
VStrom's are amazing bikes for the money. I'll be taking a hard look at the 800de when they're available.
Appreciate the effort. Very helpful. Subscribed
as always, best on the internet
Great work...spot on!
Great video mate…. The video flew by, didn’t feel like it was 45mins at all
Hi Ian and thanks for putting this together. Is the Honda Transalp making its way to the US? haven't been able to find any sort of info on that. Thanks again!
Awesome and informative video!
I really think the Triumph scrambler 1200XE should be on this list, seeing that its about 225kg, 90hp/110nm torque, comes with all the tech you'll ever need and with fully adjustable ohlins at the rear and fully adjustable showa at the front which provides 250mm suspension travel.
Only downside compared to the other bikes on this list would be the lack of a screen which is available in the accessories catelog.