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The fact that you take the time to put together hour plus videos, in a day where RUclips is preferring shorter, makes it obvious that you're doing this for all the right reasons. Your efforts, insights, and opinions are highly appreciated by us riders. This takes significant effort to research and concatenate for this many bikes. Stay true to your mission. We will continue to consume and support any way we can!
I've been laughed at, with my DL1000XAL8, on some of the places I've taken it. Cannot go as fast over technical terrain; don't have the ground clearance nor suspension travel to jump and land the crankcase on a rock, but I've kept up, made it through, and not dropped it (mud is my exception, and one hidden log), and have had to help others who broke their bike. I wish the new 1050 DE had 1-2" more ground clearance. The additional 4" of suspension travel and 21" front tire will be a godsend. Now I need to come up with the cash.
@@ne-adv To me lowering the seat and setting an higher suspension (back and front) might be more than enough to have a real enduro Strom, i'll always prefer the 650cc version but the new 1050DE is pretty nice (altho i would immediately have the tubeless kit in the front wheel lol)
I’ve finished my PhD this last June ‘22. I had time but a limited budget. I got a fully loaded (equipment) 2007 Suzuki V-Strom 650 with 78k miles. I’ve put 23k miles in three months touring the USA, off-road events and even took it to the track. I’m at 92k miles with it right now. I paid $2350 for it in Maryland. It had progressive rear shocks, front ricor emulator, for brace, sw motech guards, while luggage set, Corbin seat etc. a ton more stuff. This bike went to Black Bear Pass and went from ocean to ocean. It’s a beast. I went through two tire sets. Brake pad change once. Changed the chain once (my mistake from. It cleaning it well after the salt flats in Utah). Love the bike, will ride it as long as the engine holds up. No valve adjustments needed.
I've owned a few of the bikes on this list (Super Tenere; DL650; KLR650). Currently have the S10,, but I would definitely purchase another Vstrom if I were going smaller 👍. Loved that bike👍.
@@PaydayGabeBCNV There is no point in selling my bike at this point. Would get pennies on a dime with this high mileage but the bike is in perfect condition. I'll just add more to the stable. Looking at a ktm 890r, 1290r or gs1250 tbd
@@djolecar88 ,, I understand that point 💯. As you said,, Ride it till the engine craps out. But that could be a while. Reliable as an Anvil they are. 🍻 Cheers, G.
Been riding over 55 years and bought many bikes but never seen dealer bs markups as bad as my last bike. A 2023 KLX 300 that listed at 6099.00 + dealer addons of 1350 + state tax ,reg etc pushed it to 7949.00 out the door. So buying private party can save you a lot.
Sadly buying used , you usually end up buying someone else’s problems. They are selling for a reason. If the seller won’t budge on the price, then you are probably getting a solid deal. If they are willing to negotiate down, then look out, JUNK alert.
I want to add a small “nice to know” detail about the Moto Guzzi V85TT (which I have, together with other Guzzis). Starting 2021 they updated the engine giving it much more torque and smoothness at low RPMs, it is so much better than the 2019-2020 engine. Also starting 2021 it comes standard with tubeless wheels and other small improvements. Make sure it has the latest engine map available (august 2022), authorized shops can update it.
Big Rock Moto is a milestone in modern moto journalism. That's why I'm a Patreon supporter and try to buy my motorcycle gear and supplies through Ian's links. We motorcyclists are fortunate to have such a resource as this. Thank you Ian.
You said a month full KK I couldn’t have said it better… I hunt down his videos hours on end and some I’ve seen countless times and when he bent his knee up Ouch brought back a bad memory of hyperextended of my own.
Finally a moto RUclipsr has a video about used bikes. I’ve owned 21 motorcycle in my life but I haven’t bought a new one since 1987. It’s not that I don’t lust after new motorcycles, or am even offended by their MSRP. It’s that most dealers where I live don’t allow test rides, and I refuse to pay their endless fees and charges. Also, so many people change their minds about their new toy, there are always low mileage deals to be had from private sellers.
I picked up a used 2020 KLX 230 Duel Sport for $3500 that already had a bunch of mods. It's definitely a bike best kept under 65mph but it's more than enough to ride the back roads and most dirt trails. People buy these small Duel Sports as first bikes and then sell them with low mileage. At the very least you are buying what was already a cheap bike at a discount and minus the dealer fee's.
You create outstanding informative content. Iv'e recently watched a few of your videos and really appreciate your no hype no BS delivery. I will soon be returning to motorcycling after a way too long 15 year break. I have done quite a bit of research and I narowed it down to the Versysy 650, CB 500X KLR 650 and the V-Strom 650. I have decided on a V-Strom 650 2019 or later model. Really looking forward to getting back on two wheels again.
Good luck finding a decent DRZ400S for $2500. I zipped to the 5K section expecting to see it there. Either way, it's the one to buy at anything up to $5-6K unless you want electrical nightmares with BMW models or maintenance on the KTM's. BTW anything with cast wheels shouldn't be on the list IMHO.
How many V-Strom 650 fans in the 'House' ? Thumbs up to help count. All the ADV vloggers like Ian here convinced me to consider one. 10 days into ownership, I'm a believer, this is one amazing machine. Details: 2008, Grey / Black V-Strom 650 with 12,900 miles, immaculate condition, garaged never dirt driven for $3650 from a used motorcycle dealer, this July 2023. I'd call it an outstanding value. I am moving up from a Suzuki Burgman 400, and had noted many guys on the Burgman forums also listed this bike in their signatures. NOW, I know why...
For whatever reason it's taken me a little bit to warm up to this chanel but I just wanna let you know you are doing a great job. This was a no fluff guide, well thought out and informative. I can see you've put a lot of work into this and it's appricated. It's nice to see an actual MOTORCYCLIST doing MC reviews on YT. Great job. I do wish you did more street bikes, I think your no nonsense approach is valuable in any part of the market.
Wow Ian! Another amazing job that only you can pull off like that. Got a couple CRF dual sports and getting first ADV bike next month in the Norden 901 Expedition and I’ve learned so much from you. Really appreciate you and try to support you however I can. Keep up the outstanding work and ride safe! 🙏🏽 🏍💨
Great vid Ian as always. I really like the format of this episode. I’m old and pedantic and would like to mention one small thing many RUclipsrs and journos get wrong. A supermoto is a motorcycle. A Supermotard is the rider/racer of a supermoto.
Yamaha XT225/250, definitely. Great for shorter riders, or riders who just want a lower seat height, it's under 32 inches. Less than an inch taller than the TW200. Also the KLX250S and Honda CRF250L.
I bought a 2006 VStrom 650 a few years ago and love it. I just today cut some single track on my property for practicing. My biggest complaints are the lack of ground clearance, seat height (I'm tall) and lack of aftermarket parts (like foot shifter.) It's great on the road and fun on the dirt roads with great fuel mileage. It's up to 34,000 miles and still running great.
As much as I loved my 1190, avoid them imo. Fuel gauge, Fuel Pump, Ignition failures. But the biggest problem imo, is the placement of the air filter. The stock air filter was not sealed well and required an after market upgrade, not a huge deal as other bikes have the same issue. The air filter....one of the most important maintenance items if you are out in the dust and dirt....is under the tank. You have to remove the entire tank. Dealing with it out in the field, if you want to replace a prefilter for example, is just super annoying. Also top heavy and you sit in the bike vs. on top. But... It is crazy fast and super fun to ride...it is a KTM after all. But my 17 701e is way, way more fun. A little sketchy on the highway at high speeds, but so much better off road and no issues after ~10k miles. Looking to get a mid class adv (890 vs 901 vs T700) for 2 up so this info has definitely saved me time. If the 701e is a little too much, the 500/501's and 350/FEs are great bikes, but the maintenance intervals are low (~433 miles) for something like a BDR depending on logistics.
The TW 200, all DRs, and the Honda XLs are expensive, 3k to 5k, in SW Wisconsin. I have only seen a couple CB500s out here and they usually are sold above 6k. There is also the versys 300x and bmw 310 gs around the 5k range.
A really good overview of the bike selection out there. SO many pros with most-hard to go wrong!! You did a great job as usual my friend. I bought my "14 vstrom 1000 adv new when they first came out and never looked back. Naturally its not for everyone but it is amazing. 50+ yrs of riding and this bike does it all around for me. Through the years I did suspension, exhaust, and gear changes to make it a better off road bike, It is easy to work, on and has a lot of aftermarket for economical off road upgrades. It had the super low torque but swapping the front gear to a 15T gave it SO much grunt in every gear. The suspension is adjustable- which you have to do for more off road. I do the BDRs and other off road areas year round. Off road you need to ride aggressively and what it does not go over it goes through!. You just need to trust it. It is only 40lbs heavier than the 650. more narrow and handles great standing. Naturally the reliability and the road touring is legendary. It is always going to star and run. The abs does not need to be turned off as it works very well on/off road. It is not for everyone but I will have this bike for many years. I am not as young as I was when racing/enduro/exploring north america but still get out there and have fun while seeing amazing places. Anyone can do it. Not a bike snob, never have been. Ride what ya got or can get and have fun. It is what they are for. Mine has never seen a Starbucks!! See yall out there!! Stay safe and well my friends!!
I'd like to say something about the Versys. The first and second generation - 2007 to 2009 and 2010 to 2014 - are a LOT lighter than the third and fourth generation bikes. My 2009 model weighs 186 kgs dry, but the latest one is almost 15 kgs heavier. And it shows. The Versys is an extremely top-heavy bike. Add weight to that and it only gets worse. The vibrations on the first generation are so bad that for old buggers like me, they're only rideable with neoprene grips. The best ones are the second generation, where they fitted some rubber mounts to the engine.
Thank you Ian! I've watched every video from you as I was trying to find the exact bike I needed. Listening to you break things down in your videos shifted my perspective to help me realize what I wanted and what I needed. After watching this video you opened my eyes to how affordable the Super Tenere was and after a little hunting I purchased a 2013 with only 2k miles on it with OEM luggage for 6800 dollars. My main priorities were passengers comfort, touring ability, and reliability. Honestly the ST doesn't feel heavy to me during street riding and I don't plan to do serious offroading so the 17/19 wheel combo and good suspension travel is enough to keep me comfortable on some dirt roads in the mountains yet good enough to have some fun on the twisty roads all while being comfortable. The best thing is I had my heart set on buying a NEW bike but I was able to get the ST without a loan so I can spend more money on upgrades and trips. 👍 keep at it, I wish you could review the long in the tooth ST for us because I'd love to hear your thoughts.
This list is a treasure. I am actually considering buying an old and inexpansive off-road capable ADV. I have had my eyes set on a F650GS Dakar, but have been fearing that I have missed some good options on the market. After watching this, I am certain it's the bike I want.
Re DL1000, my wife and I ADV'd this bike all over AZ camping, we didn't know any better and it worked great. Sold my red 1st gen for an ST1300 which I hated and sold 8 months later to buy another DL1K same color 🙃. My 2009 GS1200 was a great motorcycle. Early KTM's be careful, coolant tends to make its way into the oil on come LC motors. Of all the bike listed, the GS's are the way to go. Under 10k get the 09-12 GS1200 at 10k or slightly over get the next gen GS1200. First year water cooled GS's have peaky engines and some throttle snatch. Agree 100% on rider training with ADV riding!! This cannot be stressed enough. Riding on dirt is an entirely different skill set on two wheels than street.
One thing to note with the XR650L, it is also easily lowered with a lowering link just like the DR650SE. One con is the countershaft spline wear due to no cush drive.
Thank you for putting this together!! My take from this is the idea that for apx $15000 you get a Honda AT/ Suzuki V-strom AND a light wheight dual sport. Instead of trying to find the unicorn bike that magically makes everything well (on and off road) that would cost $20000. Just to accept that different bikes are built for different ways to drive - and with some simple smartness - get them both.
I bought a 2017 V-Strom XT (3. generation) in late 2021 for 6.500 € with losts of accessories! I really like the 3. gen most because it also looks way more modern and 800 GS/ Tiger-ish than the older models! Off-road capabilities ... well let's say they scale with it's rider. ;o) I've met some Ténéré 700 riders that'll do worst off-road than me on my V-Strom. That's why you excellently summarized it at 16:27. And since I bought it mainly for traveling, I am very happy with a more comfortable choice with which I go a bit slower on bad side roads and light off-road also because with luggage I am more in a holiday mood than in a racing scenario. The weight can be a problem, but it's better distributed than on the top heavy T7 i think! Also with the much bigger fuel tank it evens out when T7 riders bring extra fuel with them. It has been made obvious with the T7 World Raid Edition: with some bars and a bigger fuel tank it suddenly weighs even more than the V-Strom 650 XT from 2017. All in all a good summary! I would recommend to buy a V-Strom 650 XT anytime (especially 3. gen) and since I already have one my favorited used bikes are the 2017 Africa Twin and the 2015 Tiger 800 XC. From the newer bikes I would also consider the beautiful Guzzi V85 TT, which could be a really classical option to buy used and keep forever. Norden 901 and Transalp should also convert into solid used options when their price tag falls below 7 grands and someone also wants to travel with them.
Hey Ian, awesome channel. I just bought an '08 KLR 650 with only 17K km's on it....after a LONG hiatus from motorcycling. I'd just moved to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, and the legendary Cabot Trail is literally in my backyard, and I wanted a reliable, but inexpensive ADV bike to explore the area, and beyond. Your insights made it easier to really nail down what it was I wanted, on the budget I had. Thanks VERY much!
My go to bike reviewer. Has the ability to transport me onto the bike through his comparisons and comments and important info we riders are looking for. I would buy a bike based only on what he says. It's like a test ride channel.
Thanks Ian, Another excellent review. I'm so appreciative of your knowledge, frankness and honesty, it continues to be a pleasure to follow your channel. Well done!!
I have owned both a TW200 and DR 200. They are both very low and light which are great attributes for newer and older riders. Unfortunately the TW 200 tires are NOT good in mud, the center band of lugs is too close together and fills with mud instantly. I had one for 2 years and it wouldn't climb any kind of uphill in mud. The DR200 has 21/18 wheels so it can wear much more aggressive rubber. The DR 200 has slightly bigger rear drum than the TW so it stops better, and has a much bigger gas tank, I believe 3.3 gal vs 1.7 on the tdub. The TW however has a much better aftermarket except motorcycle tires. Some owners will put ATV tires on Tdubs for some really great mud handling. TW's are cooler but ultimately I sold mine. Other bikes may come and go in my garage but the DR 200 will always be there until I just can't ride at all.
I put 35k miles on a DR650SE, rode it all across the US. Such a simple and joyful machine, and so, so, easy to work on. Thanks for making such a great overview video Ian, I hope it does show that you get into DualSport motorcycles, camping trips etc without spending 20k at zeeee Dealership. Keep up the good work!
i just bought a XR650L. Everyone i came across thought they had a gold bar under the seat. way over priced. anything in my area under $5k was a piece of crap or over 20 years old with a ton of miles. Friend of mine. Has a good friend who use to own a honda shop and had a very good used one he wanted to sell my friend said the guy went through everything and if it needed fixing or replacement he did it. I think i got a fair price with a lot of extras so i bought it. going to set it up for off road adventure riding. I now have a smaller off road bike to go with my KTM 1290. If i get real good at off roading i might sell the 1290 for a KTM 890 Thanks. Always good information on your channel
Bought my 2012 DL1000 V-Strom brand new and just traded it in last year with 135K miles on it for my Tiger 900. Part of me wishes I would have went with a Strom again but that Triumph is brilliant
Ian, you have created one of my favorite RUclips channels. Easily my favorite motorcycle channel. Thank you so much for all the time you put into all of your reviews and this video in particular. Have a great day, and keep up the amazing work.
I actually find that reaching for the front brake makes me automatically roll off the throttle, even if I started off in the “wrong” position. Also, another throttle tip might be to stop the blip. In other words, keep a steady throttle in most situations. IMO. Enjoyed you tops.
I'd humbly add as Honorable Mention in the $5,000 category: 2006 KTM 640 Adventure. Why? Dry weight of 350 pounds. Some of the best suspension out the factory door according to Dave Darcy (MADTV). Brembo brakes. Electric start and kick-start as back-up. 7.5 gallon fuel tank set surprisingly low in the frame for a 350 mile range. 50 HP single cylinder so highway travel is tolerable. Yes, the LC4 motor sounds like a bucket of bolts but it has proven itself around the world. Yes, oil changes are time-consuming but you learn to do it efficiently. Center and side stand so tire / flat repair isn't much drama. Since the KTM tends to run hot, I've added a second fan from Tusk - RMATVMC (the general use model) for the throttle side radiator and set the digital temp to kick in at 170 degrees so as to get ahead of the overheat issue. Add Tusk heated grips that consume almost no Watts and you're riding in relative comfort on colder days. Tall seat? Add a Kouba Link to drop it an inch or so. I'm 5-9, 175 pounds, 30 inch inseam for perspective. Oh, and crash bars from Ukraine (pre-Putin aggression). Soft or hard luggage as per your preference (have both). No electronics? Use your brain. Computers can't predict your line selection on tricky terrain. Need I say more? LOL
I know i'm a little bit late but i wanted to point out another "nice to know" fact about the F800 gs. You can find used F800 gs Adventure which featured longer travel suspensions, a different design to have more confort while touring, a bigger tank (450km-280 miles without stopping for gas) for about the same price, it's like a cheap R1200 gs adventure with a lot more off road capacity and less HP, i own one since 2020 and i'm deeply in love with it!
Thanks for taking the time for this extensive discussion. Your advice at the end is spot-on. I went from an NC 750 to an Africa Twin because I wanted more off road ability. While I love the Africa Twin, and I've put almost 40,000 miles on it over 3 years, I'm now looking at a second smaller bike to really learn off-road skills, as well as taking a course. The AT is just too heavy to take a chance on, especially because the off-road options are limited where I live.
Anyone with 40,k under their seat is like a superhero and you’ll never retire I can see you at family gatherings on a little Honda 50 running to the lunchroom 😂
For Europeans, as a proud owner of Honda Transalp 600 or 650, I need to mention this model. It has better offroad manners than traditional rival V-strom 650 thanks to higher ground clearence and 21 inch front wheel, also 28° steering angle. Although, it is on the heavier side and power does not compete with modern midsize ADVs. But it is pretty good on highway or longer distances thanks to V-twin engine, great stock sound as well. The prices on the second hand market are really affordable, around 3000 USD, plus you get the Honda bulletproof reliability.
I'm pretty surprised there was only a brief mention of the CRF250l/CRF300l (regular or rally). Both of which are good bikes, especially for beginners. I'm biased as I own one but they can definitely be found in the $5k range. This is a great resource you've put out, will definitely send to friends who are searching for a bike. Thanks Ian.
A lot can be said about the Honda to start with addressing the washed out suspension if ur over 110lbs and like air and run WFO. A blast of $1,500 to possibly 3k and you’re fit for the best little endurance bike ever but not for the freeway. Mite as well put the DR650 New in that spot. Just my opinion…rob442
Big omission: Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC. I went from a KTM 690 R to one of these and I was amazed at how versatile and capable they are off-road, as well as powerful, fun, fast on twisties... and gorgeous looking. They are also extremely affordable used (if you can find one).
Thank you for all the time and hard work you put into this video, Ian. You truly have a passion for motorcycles, your channel, and your viewers. I absolutely love your channel! Keep up the awesome content!
Amazing job! You deserve the good & professional reputation you have. Thank you so much for your hard work and original ways to add value to our community.
Another amazing video, able to get to the basic nature of each model very quickly and efficiently. Personally I am fortunate enough to be able to own two bikes, a ist gen 650 v strom with revalved and appropriately spung forks and a fully adjustable wilburs shock. As you know it is an amazing tourer and easy dirt road bike. I also own a 2014 dr 650 with full engine protection and respung and valved forks and standard shock. I am a primarily road rider trying to get into offroad adventure style riding, my main problem is not enough time to ride. I would like to say however with regards to the DR that it is extremely easy to work on, for example major services checking and resetting valve clearances are extremely simple whereas I baulk at doing the same for my strom.
Dr. 650 yes sir yes sir my choice bike desert racing. Only problem I ever had to date was the smog regulate fuel valve feed to carb. Fixed on spot and ran it to the end of week to replace it with a new one. And springing the front end is a must at 80mph running over desert shrubs like a Cadilac!! Almost as good as my old WR 390 husky CR Now that was a bike bike No street war machine
I have two adventure bikes: Honda NX4 Falcon 400 and a Honda GL1200. The falcon is better for crappy roads and the Wing is better for long distance cruzing. Used to ride dirt but not so much any more. Talking price my Wing cost $1500 the Falcon was over double that.
Great video! Thanks Ian for the work and passion that you put in to this videos👍 One advantage of the pre 2013 f800gs is that weights only 454lbs also the simplicity of the bike works towards it's advantage as it gets older
You produced a top notch educational video here. I think your suggestions are right on the mark. One concern I have is oem parts availability for the much older bikes and the degradation of things like rubber hoses, brake lines, etc. Still, with the rather substantial amount of money saved on a solid older bike should more than make up the difference. Again, great work!
You bring a solid note to the table. Being a mechanic myself we have a huge outlet of available parts worldwide and we learn how to modify repair and get the ride back on the road and not face that same problem for 10 more years down the road…rob442
I think a big point to mention on the Africa twin models are which ones have tubes tires and which ones are tubeless. Being able to patch hole without removing the tire is a nice feature to consider.
This is true but when running radial tires if you don’t plug correctly you run a vary high risk of tire separation as heat buildup along with radial distortion at high speeds causing tire fatigue and air pressure finding the slightest flaw to cause tire failure. …rob442
Ian, THANK YOU! There needs to be a special place in heaven for long-form RUclips creators. Your work is additive to society, unlike much that is on the platform.
Every outback, bush riding adventurer in Australia has owned a DR650 and modified it to do moto camping and some long trips. Can go 100 mph and weighs under 375 lbs. Huge aftermarket. 🤔Carb yes, but not hard to mod for more altitude riding or more power.. I like to fiddle with bikes and put on mods.
IMHO you are the best moto reviewer on youtube and i love your in depth and highly informative videos. Just wish i lived in the US and could experience some of the awesome off-roads you have around you. Keep up the great work!
Great presentation Ian - thank you for finally mentioning the - frequently forgotten- Honda nc700x! With just a couple of obvious Mods, it certainly has a place in the adventure world.
Great media product so very true there is so much great product out there some barely used and great fun. How to tighten a chain, change the oil and install new spark plugs ... maybe a new fuel filter, a suspension adjustment etc and that will get everyone out on the road loving this lifestyle too.
Very easy to dent the rims of the 3 spoke wheels on the old Vstroms. Re the F800GS, the upper shock bolt would bend quite easily due to a terrible design. The pre 2014 690 would break valve rockers and probably caused the poor reliability record of KTM.
Hey Ian , Great very informative and pratical info , The Husky TE 630 , good power, good adjustable suspension , light - 150 kg , 6 speed and not tall - the predecesor to the KTM 690 .
Have to chime in for some disagreement. I have owned a 2014 G650GS and a 2018 690 Enduro R. The GS was way more vibey. My father-in-law has a 2020 690 as well and is almost as smooth as my 990. Also, I believe the 2017 Husky 701 was the first year with the updated engine, not 2018. Love the content.
Hello Ian, Thankyou so much fort this vid. I just sold my Goldwing and am going to Adventure models. Really informative and learned a lot. Thinking of the KLR650. Then a 2024 used Africa Twin ES DCT adventure sports in the future. Great channel.
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Honda CRF 450 RL and conduct your in depth, extensive review. Many need to know
You are one of the nicest and more inclusive people. No discrimination, no new motorcycle bias just love for all motorcycles. Wish you the best!
I appreciate that!
Also, one of the few North America-based reviewers aware of other markets.
Well said 👍
Exactly, this guy is great!
Very nice
The fact that you take the time to put together hour plus videos, in a day where RUclips is preferring shorter, makes it obvious that you're doing this for all the right reasons. Your efforts, insights, and opinions are highly appreciated by us riders. This takes significant effort to research and concatenate for this many bikes.
Stay true to your mission. We will continue to consume and support any way we can!
thank you. it means a lot.
In 2018 I rode my V Strom 2nd Gen around the world, two up. 43,000 miles and no reliability issues. Tank range of 260 miles and really comfortable.
That's awesome! 650?
Yes, I have a 2013 650 V strom. I have owned it since it was 9 months old.
Seeing the V-Strom covered so many times gives you a prospective on how good that bike really is.
I've been laughed at, with my DL1000XAL8, on some of the places I've taken it. Cannot go as fast over technical terrain; don't have the ground clearance nor suspension travel to jump and land the crankcase on a rock, but I've kept up, made it through, and not dropped it (mud is my exception, and one hidden log), and have had to help others who broke their bike.
I wish the new 1050 DE had 1-2" more ground clearance. The additional 4" of suspension travel and 21" front tire will be a godsend. Now I need to come up with the cash.
@@ne-adv To me lowering the seat and setting an higher suspension (back and front) might be more than enough to have a real enduro Strom, i'll always prefer the 650cc version but the new 1050DE is pretty nice (altho i would immediately have the tubeless kit in the front wheel lol)
I’ve finished my PhD this last June ‘22. I had time but a limited budget. I got a fully loaded (equipment) 2007 Suzuki V-Strom 650 with 78k miles. I’ve put 23k miles in three months touring the USA, off-road events and even took it to the track. I’m at 92k miles with it right now.
I paid $2350 for it in Maryland.
It had progressive rear shocks, front ricor emulator, for brace, sw motech guards, while luggage set, Corbin seat etc. a ton more stuff.
This bike went to Black Bear Pass and went from ocean to ocean. It’s a beast. I went through two tire sets. Brake pad change once. Changed the chain once (my mistake from. It cleaning it well after the salt flats in Utah).
Love the bike, will ride it as long as the engine holds up. No valve adjustments needed.
I've owned a few of the bikes on this list (Super Tenere; DL650; KLR650).
Currently have the S10,, but I would definitely purchase another Vstrom if I were going smaller 👍.
Loved that bike👍.
@@PaydayGabeBCNV There is no point in selling my bike at this point. Would get pennies on a dime with this high mileage but the bike is in perfect condition. I'll just add more to the stable. Looking at a ktm 890r, 1290r or gs1250 tbd
@@djolecar88 ,, I understand that point 💯.
As you said,, Ride it till the engine craps out.
But that could be a while. Reliable as an Anvil they are.
🍻 Cheers, G.
Been riding over 55 years and bought many bikes but never seen dealer bs markups as bad as my last bike. A 2023 KLX 300 that listed at 6099.00 + dealer addons of 1350 + state tax ,reg etc pushed it to 7949.00 out the door. So buying private party can save you a lot.
Don't forget the $1k for shipping.
Ya....but dealers buy the bikes sold privately....
Sadly buying used , you usually end up buying someone else’s problems. They are selling for a reason. If the seller won’t budge on the price, then you are probably getting a solid deal. If they are willing to negotiate down, then look out, JUNK alert.
@@bobbyrobbins9816pl Change bikes. Check the oil. Pm can't ride a bike 100k miles
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I want to add a small “nice to know” detail about the Moto Guzzi V85TT (which I have, together with other Guzzis). Starting 2021 they updated the engine giving it much more torque and smoothness at low RPMs, it is so much better than the 2019-2020 engine. Also starting 2021 it comes standard with tubeless wheels and other small improvements. Make sure it has the latest engine map available (august 2022), authorized shops can update it.
great info
Fantastic!
Ian has the best most knowledgable audience 🍻🍻
Big Rock Moto is a milestone in modern moto journalism. That's why I'm a Patreon supporter and try to buy my motorcycle gear and supplies through Ian's links. We motorcyclists are fortunate to have such a resource as this. Thank you Ian.
You said a month full KK I couldn’t have said it better… I hunt down his videos hours on end and some I’ve seen countless times and when he bent his knee up Ouch brought back a bad memory of hyperextended of my own.
Finally a moto RUclipsr has a video about used bikes. I’ve owned 21 motorcycle in my life but I haven’t bought a new one since 1987. It’s not that I don’t lust after new motorcycles, or am even offended by their MSRP. It’s that most dealers where I live don’t allow test rides, and I refuse to pay their endless fees and charges. Also, so many people change their minds about their new toy, there are always low mileage deals to be had from private sellers.
I picked up a used 2020 KLX 230 Duel Sport for $3500 that already had a bunch of mods. It's definitely a bike best kept under 65mph but it's more than enough to ride the back roads and most dirt trails. People buy these small Duel Sports as first bikes and then sell them with low mileage. At the very least you are buying what was already a cheap bike at a discount and minus the dealer fee's.
You create outstanding informative content. Iv'e recently watched a few of your videos and really appreciate your no hype no BS delivery. I will soon be returning to motorcycling after a way too long 15 year break. I have done quite a bit of research and I narowed it down to the Versysy 650, CB 500X KLR 650 and the V-Strom 650. I have decided on a V-Strom 650 2019 or later model. Really looking forward to getting back on two wheels again.
Its funny how the DR650 is still a better Adv bike than nearly anything from 2500 up to 7500
How does this only have 25k views?!? Ian you are a national treasure of the Moto community
Good luck finding a decent DRZ400S for $2500. I zipped to the 5K section expecting to see it there. Either way, it's the one to buy at anything up to $5-6K unless you want electrical nightmares with BMW models or maintenance on the KTM's. BTW anything with cast wheels shouldn't be on the list IMHO.
100%, no way in this market, any DRZ that is not old enough to buy beer goes for 4-6K where I am.
Well done, Ian. Thank you so much for the work you put in on this one! It is so well done!
My pleasure!
I love the VTwin engine of Suzuki. ❤
Got the SV650 and VStrom 650 XT
How many V-Strom 650 fans in the 'House' ?
Thumbs up to help count.
All the ADV vloggers like Ian here convinced me to consider one.
10 days into ownership, I'm a believer, this is one amazing machine. Details:
2008, Grey / Black V-Strom 650 with 12,900 miles, immaculate condition, garaged never dirt driven for $3650 from a used motorcycle dealer, this July 2023.
I'd call it an outstanding value.
I am moving up from a Suzuki Burgman 400, and had noted many guys on the Burgman forums also listed this bike in their signatures.
NOW, I know why...
One of the most honest channels for bike reviews.
For whatever reason it's taken me a little bit to warm up to this chanel but I just wanna let you know you are doing a great job. This was a no fluff guide, well thought out and informative. I can see you've put a lot of work into this and it's appricated. It's nice to see an actual MOTORCYCLIST doing MC reviews on YT. Great job. I do wish you did more street bikes, I think your no nonsense approach is valuable in any part of the market.
I appreciate that!
Ian!! You are my first choice when looking for a review!! Thank you so much for your work!! Amazing!!
Wow Ian! Another amazing job that only you can pull off like that.
Got a couple CRF dual sports and getting first ADV bike next month in the Norden 901 Expedition and I’ve learned so much from you.
Really appreciate you and try to support you however I can.
Keep up the outstanding work and ride safe! 🙏🏽
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Thanks!
100% on the WRR.Never getting rid of my 2020.Great job sir.
Great vid Ian as always. I really like the format of this episode. I’m old and pedantic and would like to mention one small thing many RUclipsrs and journos get wrong. A supermoto is a motorcycle. A Supermotard is the rider/racer of a supermoto.
Yamaha XT225/250, definitely. Great for shorter riders, or riders who just want a lower seat height, it's under 32 inches. Less than an inch taller than the TW200. Also the KLX250S and Honda CRF250L.
The amount of info in this video is impressive and timely for me. I'll have to watch again and save a link to it. Great effort and result! Thanks.
I would put the Himalayan on the list in the 5k range its really good for what it is.
I got the go to all around Ford Taurus bike....the Suzuki C50...mint condition $4,000...6,000 miles...it's a very comfortable bike...
I bought a 2006 VStrom 650 a few years ago and love it. I just today cut some single track on my property for practicing. My biggest complaints are the lack of ground clearance, seat height (I'm tall) and lack of aftermarket parts (like foot shifter.) It's great on the road and fun on the dirt roads with great fuel mileage. It's up to 34,000 miles and still running great.
As much as I loved my 1190, avoid them imo. Fuel gauge, Fuel Pump, Ignition failures. But the biggest problem imo, is the placement of the air filter. The stock air filter was not sealed well and required an after market upgrade, not a huge deal as other bikes have the same issue. The air filter....one of the most important maintenance items if you are out in the dust and dirt....is under the tank. You have to remove the entire tank. Dealing with it out in the field, if you want to replace a prefilter for example, is just super annoying. Also top heavy and you sit in the bike vs. on top. But...
It is crazy fast and super fun to ride...it is a KTM after all. But my 17 701e is way, way more fun. A little sketchy on the highway at high speeds, but so much better off road and no issues after ~10k miles. Looking to get a mid class adv (890 vs 901 vs T700) for 2 up so this info has definitely saved me time.
If the 701e is a little too much, the 500/501's and 350/FEs are great bikes, but the maintenance intervals are low (~433 miles) for something like a BDR depending on logistics.
The TW 200, all DRs, and the Honda XLs are expensive, 3k to 5k, in SW Wisconsin. I have only seen a couple CB500s out here and they usually are sold above 6k. There is also the versys 300x and bmw 310 gs around the 5k range.
A really good overview of the bike selection out there. SO many pros with most-hard to go wrong!!
You did a great job as usual my friend.
I bought my "14 vstrom 1000 adv new when they first came out and never looked back. Naturally its not for everyone but it is amazing. 50+ yrs of riding and this bike does it all around for me. Through the years I did suspension, exhaust, and gear changes to make it a better off road bike, It is easy to work, on and has a lot of aftermarket for economical off road upgrades. It had the super low torque but swapping the front gear to a 15T gave it SO much grunt in every gear. The suspension is adjustable- which you have to do for more off road. I do the BDRs and other off road areas year round. Off road you need to ride aggressively and what it does not go over it goes through!. You just need to trust it. It is only 40lbs heavier than the 650. more narrow and handles great standing. Naturally the reliability and the road touring is legendary. It is always going to star and run. The abs does not need to be turned off as it works very well on/off road. It is not for everyone but I will have this bike for many years. I am not as young as I was when racing/enduro/exploring north america but still get out there and have fun while seeing amazing places. Anyone can do it. Not a bike snob, never have been. Ride what ya got or can get and have fun. It is what they are for. Mine has never seen a Starbucks!! See yall out there!!
Stay safe and well my friends!!
I like everything about ur post even about that coffee house I’m not giving them any credit 😝 I prefer stake with my coffee. Take care Traveler…rob442
I'd like to say something about the Versys. The first and second generation - 2007 to 2009 and 2010 to 2014 - are a LOT lighter than the third and fourth generation bikes. My 2009 model weighs 186 kgs dry, but the latest one is almost 15 kgs heavier. And it shows. The Versys is an extremely top-heavy bike. Add weight to that and it only gets worse. The vibrations on the first generation are so bad that for old buggers like me, they're only rideable with neoprene grips. The best ones are the second generation, where they fitted some rubber mounts to the engine.
Thank you Ian! I've watched every video from you as I was trying to find the exact bike I needed. Listening to you break things down in your videos shifted my perspective to help me realize what I wanted and what I needed. After watching this video you opened my eyes to how affordable the Super Tenere was and after a little hunting I purchased a 2013 with only 2k miles on it with OEM luggage for 6800 dollars. My main priorities were passengers comfort, touring ability, and reliability. Honestly the ST doesn't feel heavy to me during street riding and I don't plan to do serious offroading so the 17/19 wheel combo and good suspension travel is enough to keep me comfortable on some dirt roads in the mountains yet good enough to have some fun on the twisty roads all while being comfortable.
The best thing is I had my heart set on buying a NEW bike but I was able to get the ST without a loan so I can spend more money on upgrades and trips. 👍 keep at it, I wish you could review the long in the tooth ST for us because I'd love to hear your thoughts.
This list is a treasure. I am actually considering buying an old and inexpansive off-road capable ADV. I have had my eyes set on a F650GS Dakar, but have been fearing that I have missed some good options on the market. After watching this, I am certain it's the bike I want.
Easily one of the best advice videos I’ve ever watched. Thank you!
Re DL1000, my wife and I ADV'd this bike all over AZ camping, we didn't know any better and it worked great. Sold my red 1st gen for an ST1300 which I hated and sold 8 months later to buy another DL1K same color 🙃. My 2009 GS1200 was a great motorcycle. Early KTM's be careful, coolant tends to make its way into the oil on come LC motors. Of all the bike listed, the GS's are the way to go. Under 10k get the 09-12 GS1200 at 10k or slightly over get the next gen GS1200. First year water cooled GS's have peaky engines and some throttle snatch. Agree 100% on rider training with ADV riding!! This cannot be stressed enough. Riding on dirt is an entirely different skill set on two wheels than street.
Thank you for all your hard work! Most appreciated! 🙏
My pleasure!
One thing to note with the XR650L, it is also easily lowered with a lowering link just like the DR650SE. One con is the countershaft spline wear due to no cush drive.
Thank you for putting this together!!
My take from this is the idea that for apx $15000 you get a Honda AT/ Suzuki V-strom AND a light wheight dual sport. Instead of trying to find the unicorn bike that magically makes everything well (on and off road) that would cost $20000.
Just to accept that different bikes are built for different ways to drive - and with some simple smartness - get them both.
makes sense!
I bought a 2017 V-Strom XT (3. generation) in late 2021 for 6.500 € with losts of accessories!
I really like the 3. gen most because it also looks way more modern and 800 GS/ Tiger-ish than the older models! Off-road capabilities ... well let's say they scale with it's rider. ;o) I've met some Ténéré 700 riders that'll do worst off-road than me on my V-Strom. That's why you excellently summarized it at 16:27. And since I bought it mainly for traveling, I am very happy with a more comfortable choice with which I go a bit slower on bad side roads and light off-road also because with luggage I am more in a holiday mood than in a racing scenario.
The weight can be a problem, but it's better distributed than on the top heavy T7 i think! Also with the much bigger fuel tank it evens out when T7 riders bring extra fuel with them. It has been made obvious with the T7 World Raid Edition: with some bars and a bigger fuel tank it suddenly weighs even more than the V-Strom 650 XT from 2017.
All in all a good summary!
I would recommend to buy a V-Strom 650 XT anytime (especially 3. gen) and since I already have one my favorited used bikes are the 2017 Africa Twin and the 2015 Tiger 800 XC. From the newer bikes I would also consider the beautiful Guzzi V85 TT, which could be a really classical option to buy used and keep forever.
Norden 901 and Transalp should also convert into solid used options when their price tag falls below 7 grands and someone also wants to travel with them.
Hey Ian, awesome channel. I just bought an '08 KLR 650 with only 17K km's on it....after a LONG hiatus from motorcycling. I'd just moved to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, and the legendary Cabot Trail is literally in my backyard, and I wanted a reliable, but inexpensive ADV bike to explore the area, and beyond. Your insights made it easier to really nail down what it was I wanted, on the budget I had. Thanks VERY much!
Appreciate how much work this must’ve take .. well done .. keep the good content coming.. as usual
Thanks, will do!
I have the Suzuki 650 V-Strom and love it. As none of the new bikes coming soon has cruice control i don´t see myself buying a new bike anytime soon
My go to bike reviewer. Has the ability to transport me onto the bike through his comparisons and comments and important info we riders are looking for.
I would buy a bike based only on what he says. It's like a test ride channel.
Can you do a sport-touring version?
Thanks Ian,
Another excellent review. I'm so appreciative of your knowledge, frankness and honesty, it continues to be a pleasure to follow your channel. Well done!!
I have owned both a TW200 and DR 200. They are both very low and light which are great attributes for newer and older riders. Unfortunately the TW 200 tires are NOT good in mud, the center band of lugs is too close together and fills with mud instantly. I had one for 2 years and it wouldn't climb any kind of uphill in mud. The DR200 has 21/18 wheels so it can wear much more aggressive rubber. The DR 200 has slightly bigger rear drum than the TW so it stops better, and has a much bigger gas tank, I believe 3.3 gal vs 1.7 on the tdub. The TW however has a much better aftermarket except motorcycle tires. Some owners will put ATV tires on Tdubs for some really great mud handling. TW's are cooler but ultimately I sold mine. Other bikes may come and go in my garage but the DR 200 will always be there until I just can't ride at all.
I put 35k miles on a DR650SE, rode it all across the US. Such a simple and joyful machine, and so, so, easy to work on.
Thanks for making such a great overview video Ian, I hope it does show that you get into DualSport motorcycles, camping trips etc without spending 20k at zeeee Dealership.
Keep up the good work!
2012 R1200GS Camhead - put 60k miles on it. Easy DIY maintenance and great all-rounder.
14:55
Everyone always forgets about the XT225-250 for those segments. 😁
i just bought a XR650L. Everyone i came across thought they had a gold bar under the seat. way over priced. anything in my area under $5k was a piece of crap or over 20 years old with a ton of miles. Friend of mine. Has a good friend who use to own a honda shop and had a very good used one he wanted to sell my friend said the guy went through everything and if it needed fixing or replacement he did it. I think i got a fair price with a lot of extras so i bought it. going to set it up for off road adventure riding. I now have a smaller off road bike to go with my KTM 1290.
If i get real good at off roading i might sell the 1290 for a KTM 890
Thanks. Always good information on your channel
Bought my 2012 DL1000 V-Strom brand new and just traded it in last year with 135K miles on it for my Tiger 900. Part of me wishes I would have went with a Strom again but that Triumph is brilliant
Your huge amount of work is much appreciated. Great information. Thanks
Wow! Ian REALLY knows his bikes!! What a resource!!
Ian, you have created one of my favorite RUclips channels. Easily my favorite motorcycle channel. Thank you so much for all the time you put into all of your reviews and this video in particular. Have a great day, and keep up the amazing work.
Wow, thanks!
I actually find that reaching for the front brake makes me automatically roll off the throttle, even if I started off in the “wrong” position. Also, another throttle tip might be to stop the blip. In other words, keep a steady throttle in most situations. IMO. Enjoyed you tops.
I'd humbly add as Honorable Mention in the $5,000 category: 2006 KTM 640 Adventure. Why? Dry weight of 350 pounds. Some of the best suspension out the factory door according to Dave Darcy (MADTV). Brembo brakes. Electric start and kick-start as back-up. 7.5 gallon fuel tank set surprisingly low in the frame for a 350 mile range. 50 HP single cylinder so highway travel is tolerable. Yes, the LC4 motor sounds like a bucket of bolts but it has proven itself around the world. Yes, oil changes are time-consuming but you learn to do it efficiently. Center and side stand so tire / flat repair isn't much drama. Since the KTM tends to run hot, I've added a second fan from Tusk - RMATVMC (the general use model) for the throttle side radiator and set the digital temp to kick in at 170 degrees so as to get ahead of the overheat issue. Add Tusk heated grips that consume almost no Watts and you're riding in relative comfort on colder days. Tall seat? Add a Kouba Link to drop it an inch or so. I'm 5-9, 175 pounds, 30 inch inseam for perspective. Oh, and crash bars from Ukraine (pre-Putin aggression). Soft or hard luggage as per your preference (have both). No electronics? Use your brain. Computers can't predict your line selection on tricky terrain. Need I say more? LOL
I know i'm a little bit late but i wanted to point out another "nice to know" fact about the F800 gs. You can find used F800 gs Adventure which featured longer travel suspensions, a different design to have more confort while touring, a bigger tank (450km-280 miles without stopping for gas) for about the same price, it's like a cheap R1200 gs adventure with a lot more off road capacity and less HP, i own one since 2020 and i'm deeply in love with it!
Thanks for taking the time for this extensive discussion. Your advice at the end is spot-on. I went from an NC 750 to an Africa Twin because I wanted more off road ability. While I love the Africa Twin, and I've put almost 40,000 miles on it over 3 years, I'm now looking at a second smaller bike to really learn off-road skills, as well as taking a course. The AT is just too heavy to take a chance on, especially because the off-road options are limited where I live.
I have owned my AT for three years and picked up a DR650 last summer and now the AT mostly sits lol.
@@fuscavw1 Looking at maybe getting a DR650 myself.
Anyone with 40,k under their seat is like a superhero and you’ll never retire I can see you at family gatherings on a little Honda 50 running to the lunchroom 😂
For Europeans, as a proud owner of Honda Transalp 600 or 650, I need to mention this model. It has better offroad manners than traditional rival V-strom 650 thanks to higher ground clearence and 21 inch front wheel, also 28° steering angle. Although, it is on the heavier side and power does not compete with modern midsize ADVs. But it is pretty good on highway or longer distances thanks to V-twin engine, great stock sound as well. The prices on the second hand market are really affordable, around 3000 USD, plus you get the Honda bulletproof reliability.
I'm pretty surprised there was only a brief mention of the CRF250l/CRF300l (regular or rally). Both of which are good bikes, especially for beginners. I'm biased as I own one but they can definitely be found in the $5k range.
This is a great resource you've put out, will definitely send to friends who are searching for a bike. Thanks Ian.
A lot can be said about the Honda to start with addressing the washed out suspension if ur over 110lbs and like air and run WFO. A blast of $1,500 to possibly 3k and you’re fit for the best little endurance bike ever but not for the freeway. Mite as well put the DR650 New in that spot. Just my opinion…rob442
I found a 2000 Aprilia Pegaso 650 with 800 miles on it. Such a great bike and it was very cheap! Better on road but still able to hit the dirt.
Big omission: Triumph Scrambler 1200 XC. I went from a KTM 690 R to one of these and I was amazed at how versatile and capable they are off-road, as well as powerful, fun, fast on twisties... and gorgeous looking. They are also extremely affordable used (if you can find one).
Thank you for all the time and hard work you put into this video, Ian.
You truly have a passion for motorcycles, your channel, and your viewers. I absolutely love your channel! Keep up the awesome content!
Thank you very much!
This is the video I needed. All in one…Amazing Job👏🏼 Your work has been incredible on this channel. thank you
Amazing job! You deserve the good & professional reputation you have. Thank you so much for your hard work and original ways to add value to our community.
Another amazing video, able to get to the basic nature of each model very quickly and efficiently. Personally I am fortunate enough to be able to own two bikes, a ist gen 650 v strom with revalved and appropriately spung forks and a fully adjustable wilburs shock. As you know it is an amazing tourer and easy dirt road bike. I also own a 2014 dr 650 with full engine protection and respung and valved forks and standard shock. I am a primarily road rider trying to get into offroad adventure style riding, my main problem is not enough time to ride. I would like to say however with regards to the DR that it is extremely easy to work on, for example major services checking and resetting valve clearances are extremely simple whereas I baulk at doing the same for my strom.
Dr. 650 yes sir yes sir my choice bike desert racing. Only problem I ever had to date was the smog regulate fuel valve feed to carb. Fixed on spot and ran it to the end of week to replace it with a new one. And springing the front end is a must at 80mph running over desert shrubs like a Cadilac!! Almost as good as my old WR 390 husky CR Now that was a bike bike No street war machine
Fantastic reviews thanks very much appreciated all your time & experience.
Thanks from Australia
I have two adventure bikes: Honda NX4 Falcon 400 and a Honda GL1200. The falcon is better for crappy roads and the Wing is better for long distance cruzing. Used to ride dirt but not so much any more. Talking price my Wing cost $1500 the Falcon was over double that.
Superb job! Details galore based on first hand experience - fantastic. Thank you
You nailed the Tiger 800 xc. I have a 2014 and taken on some trails that I shouldn’t have and it handled it ok, but very top heavy.
Great video! Thanks Ian for the work and passion that you put in to this videos👍
One advantage of the pre 2013 f800gs is that weights only 454lbs also the simplicity of the bike works towards it's advantage as it gets older
What an awesome lecture! Thank you so much for sharing this! Had a blast watching it and learned quite a bit too.
CFMoto 650MT Adventura $5000 ($6500 new) the 800MT (790KTM engine) in Australia $10000
You produced a top notch educational video here. I think your suggestions are right on the mark. One concern I have is oem parts availability for the much older bikes and the degradation of things like rubber hoses, brake lines, etc. Still, with the rather substantial amount of money saved on a solid older bike should more than make up the difference.
Again, great work!
You bring a solid note to the table. Being a mechanic myself we have a huge outlet of available parts worldwide and we learn how to modify repair and get the ride back on the road and not face that same problem for 10 more years down the road…rob442
I think a big point to mention on the Africa twin models are which ones have tubes tires and which ones are tubeless. Being able to patch hole without
removing the tire is a nice feature to consider.
This is true but when running radial tires if you don’t plug correctly you run a vary high risk of tire separation as heat buildup along with radial distortion at high speeds causing tire fatigue and air pressure finding the slightest flaw to cause tire failure. …rob442
Great video, rewatched many many times. Waiting for the 2024 one 😊
I own a 2022 KTM 350 EXC-F... Love it.. If I was to buy another more Road/ADV bike... it would be the 390 ADV...
Ian, this was the best I’ve ever seen on used bikes 😊
Wow, thanks!
Thank you for this! Looking for a fun bike in that price range and this helps a ton!
Ian, THANK YOU! There needs to be a special place in heaven for long-form RUclips creators. Your work is additive to society, unlike much that is on the platform.
thank you, it means a lot!
Every outback, bush riding adventurer in Australia has owned a DR650 and modified it to do moto camping and some long trips. Can go 100 mph and weighs under 375 lbs. Huge aftermarket. 🤔Carb yes, but not hard to mod for more altitude riding or more power.. I like to fiddle with bikes and put on mods.
Fantastic video, very informative especially for people like myself looking to get back into motorcycling 🏍 👍🏻
IMHO you are the best moto reviewer on youtube and i love your in depth and highly informative videos. Just wish i lived in the US and could experience some of the awesome off-roads you have around you. Keep up the great work!
Great presentation Ian - thank you for finally mentioning the - frequently forgotten- Honda nc700x! With just a couple of obvious Mods, it certainly has a place in the adventure world.
Great media product so very true there is so much great product out there some barely used and great fun. How to tighten a chain, change the oil and install new spark plugs ... maybe a new fuel filter, a suspension adjustment etc and that will get everyone out on the road loving this lifestyle too.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to do all the research.
You bet!
I really appreciate the man's in-depth research for the viewers of this channel. Keep up the good work! Thanks. J.
Great video, loved the info about different models from each manufacturer. I went with a 2016 KTM 1190 R
Very easy to dent the rims of the 3 spoke wheels on the old Vstroms. Re the F800GS, the upper shock bolt would bend quite easily due to a terrible design. The pre 2014 690 would break valve rockers and probably caused the poor reliability record of KTM.
Hey Ian , Great very informative and pratical info , The Husky TE 630 , good power, good adjustable suspension , light - 150 kg , 6 speed and not tall - the predecesor to the KTM 690 .
Great stuff and very informative! This is moto journalism :) Your (and MAD’s) review if the KTM 390 Adv made me buy one finally. Cheers 🇸🇪
Great to hear!
Good choice.
My 1999 klr 650 brakes is fine , headlight bulb is bright 🌅 , due ( H ) I never check ✔️ 2500 miles im good so far
Have to chime in for some disagreement. I have owned a 2014 G650GS and a 2018 690 Enduro R. The GS was way more vibey. My father-in-law has a 2020 690 as well and is almost as smooth as my 990. Also, I believe the 2017 Husky 701 was the first year with the updated engine, not 2018. Love the content.
Hello Ian, Thankyou so much fort this vid. I just sold my Goldwing and am going to Adventure models. Really informative and learned a lot. Thinking of the KLR650. Then a 2024 used Africa Twin ES DCT adventure sports in the future. Great channel.
Just fantastic that you include the summary with an option to download
Great work Ian! Keep it up 👍🏻 🇨🇦
Good review Ian, enjoyed watching it. Very informative.
Thanks Ian! Listened/watched several time today!