I had the reliability concerns, but bought one last year. 11,000 miles later and it hasn't missed a beat. The word character is always used, but it really does sum up the V85. In the real world it has enough power. I came to mine from a Multistrada. Inevitably I initially noticed the reduced power, but the key to the v85 is getting the best out of the motor. When you do it is a joy, and such fun to ride. The best all round bike I've ever owned. Also I love it precisely because it not a BMW, ktm, or Japanese! I can't say I'm planning on visiting an art gallery any time soon, but I get your point👍 Good review Freddy......buy one!
Great comment. I noticed the price decrease and now the Guardia d'Onore E5 is only 12k USD with ALL the fixings. It's a crazy good deal! I need another bike like hole in the head, but I think I'll pull the plug when I get my new job. @77archibald, have you had to adjust the valves yet?
@@aaronis31337 The bike is still under warranty so I have had the deaker service the bike so far, and they adjusted them. I have one more dealer service due, then once out of warranty I will do all servicing myself. That's another great thing about the V85, it is so easy to work on compared to most modern bikes.
Definitely. I have one, it's a joy everyday, and I mean, I ride it 365 days/ per year... maybe a little less as I don't ride on snowy days, and I do a couple of remote workdays too, but besides those, it's a daily thrill. It is not a rational choice, but is motorcycle rational ? As far as reliability, 27000 kms in two years, 0 problem besides a flat tire
Strange thing is Freddie, Visited a multi franchise dealer here in Cardiff yesterday , looking to buy an adventure/touring bike. Being a Harley fan and owner I seriously went there to buy a Pan America. Ended up test riding the Pan America then the B.M.W GS 850, both were O.K, good and bad features on both. But sat all alone in the corner was a V85TT which I kept glancing at Just for the way it looked. Ended up test riding. Really had character, overall finish better than the two aforementioned bikes. Then bought it. So here goes Moto Guzzi ownership.
Moto Guzzi’s have always had a very nice character about them, and sit aside all the other ident-i-kit models from all the other manufacturers. Can anyone honestly spot the difference between the BMW 850 and the equivalent Triumph for example? And they’re thousands dearer too. Air cooled V-twin has a lot less to go wrong too. 👍
Great review. I pulled the trigger 18 months ago and bought the V85tt Travel. Absolutely love the bike and really impressed with the reliability and quality. Not having to mess around with oily chains before a ride is a big bonus.
Always wanted a Guzzi ever since i started riding 40+ yrs ago. Recently semi - retired bit the bullet and got myself a brand new V85tt Traveller. Just back from 2,000 miles around Spain and Portugal on her and loved every minute . Never missed a beat , 65+ to the gallon in comfort. Would fully recomendva Guzzi to anyone. Pure joy .
So I finally went and did it! I bought my V85TT Travel "grigio' 3 weeks ago and this was one of the many reviews that sealed the deal for me - What a dream of a bike - I am no speed freak as only just passed my test at the tender age of 55 and mortality looms with increased foreboding nowadays. The character and balance of the vehicle are superb, I simply adore my daily rides even though I am breaking it in - I plan to pootle around the back roads of Sussex and Surrey for a few months, and then with my new, sadly black coloured, passport I will sally forth to Scandinavia, Switzerland, Spain or anywhere else my whim whisks me away to...Love your channel Freddie and love love love this review in particular...
Respect your approach to reviews Freddie. Like many life choices and especially motorcycles, the heart wants what the heart wants, often in spite of the cold hard facts. As an Italian bike owner, I can attest to that. Your style of being able to call out the failings of a bike together with pointing out the positives, and then to express the emotional call of the heart, totally represents my reaction to motorcycles. Thank you 😊
Okay so here's one for you, after owning a ktm 890r for just under a year I swapped to a v85 tt and hand on heart the best decision I ever made. Keep up the good honest non biased reviews Freddie
@@mitch4719 the ktm just seems to be a different animal it's more like a dirt bike then an adventure bike, the v85 is relaxed and comfortable if you will never venture off road the v85 is a top choice. Hope that helps
There are motorcycles that transport you and then there are motorcycles that transport the soul. This bike surprised me by being one of those motorcycles that moved me when my buddy bought one and I stepped off my 890 Rally during a ride and took his V85 TT. It shocked me at its capabilities. The best feature of this bike is it’s yellow lab good nature. It instantly lowers your blood pressure and puts you in the mood to relax and take in the beauty of the world around you. Such a great motorcycle.
@@lucmercierqc I ended up buying one at the end of last year with the 2023s getting discounted before the new 24 show up. I picked up a blue adventure and absolutely love it. I still have my 890 for more off road hard track adventures. The V85TT has become my favorite bike.
Adventure bikes are such practical all round machines, it makes them an obvious choice. But life is already too full of necessary practicalities. The V85 manages to combine practicality with passion and is the only adventure bike I'd consider.
It's an historic marque, 100 years in same factory.... They are old school cool, not fast, not "try hard", just cool ....... it's impossible to describe, but once you own a Moto Guzzi, you never want to be without one!
Very nice bike it is, Guzzi did an excellent job on the design, Its not the most powerfull one but its all about enjoying the journey and fun you will have on this beauty! Looks way better than the BMW GS ! Great video thanks for sharing, greetings from the Netherlands everyone ❤️
Hi Freddy. I pulled the trigger last November. My previous bike was the same as yours. A 2008 Bonneville SE. I really loved her. But to me, it was a little bit to small (I’m 1,86m) and not really adequate for long trip (I’m older than you are). I bought a V85TT and really don’t regret. 10 000 km since then, 2 road trips (one to Mandello of course!). So far, that was only fun! And reliability 100% at 15000 km. I tried other bikes. All were good, even better (surely more powerful, maybe better suspensions), but there was no life out of them. This one is living, full of character!
18,000 miles on mine in the first 11months, leaving on another cross country trip here in the states in 2 weeks. It is exactly as you say. A fantastically wonderful machine!! I wholeheartedly love mine for exactly what it is, & for exactly what it’s not.
Being an owner of 2 Guzzi’s (both cali’s), in my experience, you like a Guzzi or not. Guzzi, for me, stands for a feeling, a way to ride bikes (less revs, more torque, two cilinders, air cooled) I just can say that some ‘disadvantages’ are willingly embraced by Guzzi lovers, just because it is a Guzzi. It is a brand apart of all others. You like it or not. I drove all kind of bikes and all different brands and types. When I got involved in the Guzzi’s 10 years ago, I still regret it I did choose for a BMW R60 instead of the 850T Guzzi, displayed next to it (same price). I guess one has to ‘mature’ a bit before appreciating a certain bike. Guzzi comes with a bit of lifestyle as well. Saying this, as long there is fun and appreciation for what one is riding, it never can be a wrong choice. Who am I telling somebody else what bike to ride…
The art you poured into this presentation makes me feel lucky that I got to watch it. You represented Moto Guzzi well…they should be proud of your efforts and honesty Cheers
I bought my new V85tt back in May. It is my 6th Guzzi, so I was no stranger to the "Guzzi's are unreliable" mantra. I had minor issues with my LeMans and my 1200 Sport, but the V85 feels bombproof. Build quality is very impressive, certainly better than my mates BMW 900GS which had to have a new engine fitted, due to QC issues. I will stick with my ancient air cooled, 2vpc, pushrod equipped, shaft driven masterpiece, thank you very much!
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I still own an '07 1200 Sport. How would you compare both? I don't need power, but I certainly would like an easier to ride bike.
The TT is a lot lighter and is agile and a joy to ride. I no longer own it due to having both my knees replaced and finding it a bit too tall! Get a test ride, you'll love it!
One of the best reviews I have seen so far for this little beauty. You had that much passion while talking about the v85tt that I would have bought her now. But ... I already own it ;-)
Great review! I used to have a V7 Stone and switched to the V85TT for more comfort for long journeys. It's true that (especially the older bikes pre 2014) have some reliability issues. But since the Piaggio group bought Guzzi these reliability issues got (for the most part) ironed out. I never had issues with the V7 and none with the V85TT. The BMW 850 GS maybe the more powerfull bike, but in my opinion the marriage between old school machinery (the transverse V-twin engine) combined with simple electric technology (the basicis, nohting fancy) is better done on the V85TT. I went on holiday with a guy who owns a GS, for me far too much technology...also he needed a repair whilest we were on holiday, damn those BMW prices :) :) This is just my opinion, I still thinks the GS is a beautiful bike, to each his own ;) Have a great day everybody and thank you Freddie for the enjoyable video!
This wasn't even on my radar before but after watching this it really appeals, bikes are so much more than spec / performance and those touches are what makes your emotions stir imho! Thanks for creating this!!!
Absolutely gorgeous looking bike, the Italian craftsmen are amazing at creating functional art! I am seriously considering the V85 TT, it's an amazing bike for the midwest where a daily commute consists of suburban blacktop road, highway riding and the inevitable gravel/dirt road. Just an amazingly capable and beautiful bike!
Hi Freddy, I bought a Guzzi 1400 tourer last year and it has turned out to be the nicest bike I have owned. I just returned from a 3500 mile trip through Spain, Portugal and France and the Guzzi never missed a beat and was so comfortable to ride, I was so impressed .
I own a 2020 and absolutely love it, this bike is meant for people who enjoy to ride not for people who have something to prove. Easly one of the most comfortable and playful bikes I've ever owned. Shes been nothing but reliable so far. One of the best decisions in motorcycles I've ever made and just look at all that beauty 😍
Oh Freddie, I must tell you that your materials have sth special. I'm an absolute fan of your narration, camera work, music, and the general vibe of this channel. Thank you!
Freddie, thank you for an honest review. My twin brother and I bought the Yellow tri colour E4 V85TT without test riding it. We lusted for it from get go. Love at first sight. Waited for them to arrive, dreaming of them every night. I own an Alfa Romeo 159 and an Abarth 124 spider. All 3 of my Italian babies are art, form and function at their best. Everytime I walk towards them I stare, everytime I walk away I stare at my beauties. A Monica Bellucci moment I confess. La vita è bèlla. Ciao.
Bought one about two months ago. Tried really hard to like the Triumph Tiger 900 but it was the superior fit, finish, and character of the V85tt that won out. Best blend of tech with an air-cooled engine and drive shaft. Will age better and be easier to service at home. Admittedly, I have a preference for Guzzis and own a 2015 Griso (from new) with 40,000km of trouble free riding. My only caution to new owners (at least in Canada) is the small dealer network and limited parts / accessories suppliers. These factors may amplify small service issues and perceptions about reliability.
Hi Freddie - Such a lovely heartwarming and generous review - I have just ordered mine - beyond excited - I'm 55, have yearly membership of Tate Modern, and fashion my hipster flat caps out of used copies of the London Review of Books, so I guess this is the bike for me....
Fred, don't forget the shaft drive! Good off road, doesn't pick up muck and grind away metal. Smooth gear changes and no adjustments. Also lasts indefinitely with oil changes!
I have owned my first Guzzi for 6 months and a few days ago I just realised I'm captivated by the brand since I no longer stop to see what's in other bike brand dealer's showroom. Something I use to do quite often.
Bought one about 2 months ago and couldn't be more pleased. I got the travel model which came with side panniers, center stand, tall wind screen and heated grips. Cruise control is standard on all models. Brakes and suspension have been excellent and on a longer weekend I achieved 281 miles out of a tank. Suspension is adjustable front and rear. Seat has been the most comfortable stock seat I've ever had and I've owned a lot of bikes. Electronics are simple, unlike the Africa Twin I had. Maintenance is simple too, as the cylinders are easily accessible for valve clearance checks. Both the bike manual and factory service manual can be found online and downloaded if you prefer to do your own maintenance, which I do. I don't see it as an adventure bike, but more of an adventure styled touring bike that can handle some light off road. Overall, a brilliant bike and I love it!
Being an older rider (59)I remember a time when a guzzi's reputation for unreliability was well earned but not these days . If you google unreliability issues with ANY bike you will see some .Reliability doesn't get written about .
Piaggio invested a lot in improving Guzzi's reliability and overall user experience. Thanks to Aprilia's engineers they came long way from the bikes of 20 years ago. The new V100 seems promising, too.
I bought my 1st Guzzi, the V85TT, in August of 2020. I'm about to turn 23k on it and love it. No problems whatsoever. I finally got to take a major tour the summer of 2021. I met up with an old friend in UT and we rode to the BMW National Rally in Great Falls, MT. BMW riders were constantly stopping me to have a look at my bike. I would imagine that there are so few dealers out there that many of them had only seen the bike in magazines. That ride included TX, NM, CO, UT, WY, MT and ID. I would recommend anyone to give one a test ride.
Well, I went for it and bought a 2019 V7III Racer some time ago. Can't tell you yet about reliability yet because my milage is still low, but they feel solid and well-built. Yes, they're not top of the horsepower ranks, but it's how they deliver it. Such character. I love that it's aircooled, I love the rumble and the accompanying gear whine (gave mine some Agostini exhausts to let it speak more freely), love the rocking motion, love the fact that these are 'real Italian' (built in Italy from Italian parts in a factory where one goes home to 'the mama' for lunch). If I get too old to ride, this thing will stay with me as an 'Objet d'Art'.
After having dreamt of it for a couple years, a few days ago I found a super-deal for one of the very last m.y. 2023 brand-new V85TTs still available, and couldn't resist: I bought it. Picked it this morning at the dealer: she was waiting for me, her bright-red chassis dressed in a sporty and shiny Blu Uyuni suit smoothly leaning on that V-twin glorious masterpiece. Got home with a ear-to-ear smile on my face after the first 200 km ride at a truly relaxing pace as it needs to be broken in. An iconic, stylish, one-of-a-kind piece of engineering which is going to rank high on my personal best-buys-ever parade. Owning one makes me happy, and realizing how much appreciated it is worldwide makes me proud to be Italian. This thing has a soul: I'm pretty sure I will end up selling my R1200RS, in which despite my efforts I haven't found one so far.
The new v100 is gonna be my next bike. The new smaller more powerful and liquid cooled engine in the v100 will surely find its way onto this bike and possibly the v7 and v9 also. It’s a no brainier. Nice one Freddie .
I was stricken with desire the moment Moto Guzzi introduced the V85TT, but I wasn’t able to make the change. Fast forward to 2022 and the limited edition Guardia D’Onore was calling to me. I could no longer resist. Most bikes I have bought require changes to seat, and/or suspension, etc. but this bike needs nothing.
Another good Vlog F. I did pull the trigger and love the V85. Keeping it in the sweet spot is the key to getting the best from the usable power (+3000rpm). Character in abundance. Enjoy the ride.
Great review Freddy. I love my V85 TT in the Centenario colour. It is a beautiful package. Torquey air cooled 850 cc V twin, ample power, great fuel economy and range from the 21 litre tank, shaft drive, cruise contol and tubeless tyres . The right ingredients for travelling around Australia. And what about the looks and Italian craftmanship and quality materials . Well done to Moto Guzzi . Bellissimo.
Surprised you didn't mention the shaftdrive which is a big plus for a touring motorcycle where you intend to do significant miles and adjusting, cleaning and lubing the chain is a hassle. Not a lover of adventure bike styling but I think the Guzzi looks good. Btw when find a pub with beer at £1 a pint please tell us.
I chose a 2022 V85TT over a GS. I'm a sucker for an Italian, and the bike that stands out from the crowd. I came from a tiger 1050 which I ended up hating, and sold it 1 Yr later. I've just come back from a 900 mile trip on part of the Irish wild Atlantic way and it was indeed all day comfort and never missed a beat. I've put 2500 miles on it in 6 weeks. Riding my Moto Guzzi makes me "feel" special and every single time I walk away I always have to take that second glance. I chose the satin black.
I'm a very proud V85TT owner and love it. It certainly has not given me any issues at all in the last 2 years. The only issue is the lack of dealerships here in Australia. I do spend time like you standing back and admiring the bike.
After my wife took on a new position at a college up in Michigan, we are moving away from West Virginia and the super-twisty roads i have been able to thoroughly enjoy on sporting bikes such as a Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM, a KTM 690 supermoto and more recently my Ducati 950 Hypermotard SP. The change in landscape from the twisty roads to the flat, straight roads has necessitaded the sale of my Ducati. I now find myself shopping for used adventure bikes the likes of Honda Africa Twin and Suzuki V-Strom 800. Those should be great bikes, but the practicalty of a adventure bikes just dont stirr my soul - until i saw the 2023 Motoguzzi 850 TT.
Out here in the American west ( Idaho ) it’s all about having a dealer that’s not 5 hours away. I’m in my golden years, just got back into motorcycles this year after 42 year hiatus, and picked up a Tiger 900. Lovely bike. As an aside I still own a Ducati 750:Sport I bought in 1974 so Italian machinery is close to my heart. If there was a dealer closer than Salt Lake the Guzzi would have been a serious consideration. At my age , horsepower isn’t the primary consideration. Looks like a bike that would put a grin on every time.
That is a fabulous machine and suits you. It would easily tease me away from my Triumph Speed Twin purely because its a Guzzi. I always luusted after the Guzzi Stelvio but it was just too big for me and intimidating for a family new rider at the time. As with the reliability issue, alot of people with an opinion on Italian car's /bikes have never owned them. It's a reputation that's come from the 70s with the poor steel they used and iffy electrics...there's nothing more or less reliable these days than any other brand. Guzzi is a lifestyle and only Guzzi owners know.. I have had one and miss it so much.. I'd have one tomorrow, if only my garage was big enough for 3 bikes😕
My dad still talks about a Le Man's he owned back in the 70's when he was a young Royal Marine, and his face still lights up when he recounts all the adventures and occasional mishaps he had riding it.
Hey Freddie, really love MotoGuzzi for finally making an adventure bike that looks so good. Desirability off the charts for me too. I think here in Australia with lots of dirt roads it would be very practical. You could take this camping, you could do some touring and you could ride it down to a cafe. I think it really could do it all. Would I buy one? Yeah if I had the money would love to.
Excellent review Freddie. I’m not a big fan of adventure bikes either but this has a bit less of the ugly plastics than most. Glad you didn’t have the experience that I did! 👍🏼
Thanks very much! I did have to give up asking Moto Guzzi for a bike, because they’ve never replied to me after many attempts. So Mototechniks have been my first opportunity to test a Guzzi in the UK🙂
@@FreddieDobbs It’s very frustrating because some manufacturers don’t comprehend the value in terms of sales and brand awareness channels like yours or mine have to them, and that far exceeds what we’d get in revenue (a hundred pounds or two vs £100,000’s in sales).
Many thanks Freddie, Monica, for making a wonderful video. Freddie's passion for retro shines through. In a tech oriented world, its great to see niche makers like Moto Guzzi live on. There's something about the V85 TT that makes me look harder with a view to owning one. It reminds me of my Honda XL1000 Varadero, a wonderful V twin similar in proportion and size to the V85. Listening to the V85's exhaust as Freddie closed it's throttle, that wonderful "Darth Vader like" sound is unmistakeable, engine breaking through towns always turning heads. We should continue to like and truly consider buying motorbikes with real character. Well done Moto Guzzi.
I'd love one, I think they are everything you described. Moto Guzzi make lovely bikes that are fun to ride and look at. It's a style over speed thing I think. I'd be interested to know how long Guzzi owners keep their bikes for or upgrade to another Guzzi. Great video as always from you both 👍
Freddie your reviews are excellent (as well as coming at the right time, I have to wait at the airport all day 😊) but the delivery and edits as well as being enjoyable are really inspirational and make me want to produce better content myself. Thank you and Monika.
The important bit you've seemed to skip is it's the only mid-size with shaft drive, which is something us older bikers actually appreciate! Seriously considering one! I have aKTM 990 SMT at the mo. and lets just say it's doing all of the usual KTM things!
Exactly the reason I am going to buy a V85 TT! I'm 26 and I had two motorcycles so far; one with belt drive and one with shaft drive. And I'm never going to chain drive.. I want something around 850cc but there are not many options with belt or shaft drive if you compare that with the options with chain drive.
I've got a 2018 V7 and I love it. Id love to trade up to one of these soon. Maintenance is easy and the engines have long lives if you take care of them. The service manual goes to 60k miles, changing the clutch once every 30k, valve checks are quick and cheap, other than that there's nothing to it. 10k on mine with no issues
I sold my 2018 VStrom this year. One of the reasons was it was too perfect. It lacked a certain something that would make it a bike I could fall in love with. The V85TT has been on my radar for a while now and I am just waiting for the right time to get one. Oh, and you failed to bring up one important point about this bike. Shaft drive! Only middleweight adventure bike with a shaft. Helps keep that beauty clean in looks and in amount of thrown chain lube. Love it!
I was never really into adventure bikes either but to be honest this Moto Guzzi is so exquisitely beautiful that it has me genuinely thinking if I should give it a go
Freddie, you asked if we would buy one. Yes, yes and yes again. I bought the gorgeous black Guardia model. This after twenty years of riding a GS1200 and a much loved 750 Africa Twin. You nailed the reason too - style, art-form and character. In my weekend in Wales, only one other seen amongst the hordes of GS's. Your conclusion is astute - with this bike you own a different and special bike, a part of history, on behalf on Moto- Guzzi.
I just purchased a '22 V85 TT Centenario. Almost too beautiful to ride. You expressed my sentiments exactly. I am very happy to stand there and look at it. I also consider myself lucky to own one so perhaps I will fit right in to the family.
Wonderful motorcycle and a great alternative to the oversized, overpriced and ostentatious alternatives at the high end of the market. I am on my second Guzzi and for me there is nothing else. If you're on a budget find yourself a used Stelvio, you will absolutely love it.
I owned a Le Mans mkl for 10 years through the 80's and it was very reliable. Many trips in Europe and it never let me down. The only problem I had was a universal joint breaking, quite common around 20,000miles but I'm sure that has long been cured. I would definitely consider a V85TT, looks a great bike and they're knocking £750 off the price at the moment.
I have my V85 TT for 1,5 years now and I did already 13500 kms on it. It is the only bike I've ever had till this time, that makes me smile all the time I ride it. The more you ride V85 TT the more you like it (of course if you like it and want to drive it). For me the COG is OK and it is very manouverable for its weight. You can feel the weight only when manouvering on parking place, to move it forward or backward manually you need some power in your arms :-) The most fascinating thing for me (and you mentioned it in your great review) is the overall balance of the bike. It has just enough power, it goes still the same way without baggage or fuly packed with pillion, suspension comfort makes you forget about road surface, you can still go the same speed, when you get to twisties, oh my, I have scratched both my footpegs many times, big fuel tank and low consumption is great for long distance travel I usually do 500 kms on one tank which is cca 4 l/100 km, it is roomy for driver and pillion. Yes my answer is that I will buy it in fact I already did and I would do it again without blink of an eye. And what about reliabitly? In my case it is 100 % rreliable, the only thing is to check oil level before long distance trip, in hot conditions and higher engine loads V85 TT consumes some oil, so to prevent any oil adding during your trip, do it at home. Moto Guzzi is about character, it is very unique bike and they do everything in their way not like all the others. And it is the biggest advantage in my eyes in comparison with other brands that is it not BMW, KTM, Yamaha or whatever. Enjoy riding and the rubber side down. ;-)
After various bikes through my life, I "upgraded" my 1100XX Blackbird to V85. V85TT is easily the best bike I have ever owned. Best stock suspension I have tried. Quality of craftsmanship is magnificent. Almost the whole bike is hand made in Italy and by parts made in Italy. Seat is very good after about 5000km, very plush and "sticky". Dry weight is just over 200kg, fuel tank is largest in class, 23 litres (6gallons). Fuel consumption is low, about 4 litres per 100km (my record is 3,6l/100km). You can ride V85 TT everywhere, it really depends which tires you have. 10/10
as an owner of the 2020 version, 7000 trouble free miles, I have no regrets on trading off my bmw 1200 gs. causing on the open plains at 90mph plus fully loaded..she continues to amaze and delight. a few quirks, that you mentioned are less than a pebble in my shoe.. the pride of ownership...oozes from my being when parking next to anything else... people always want to know, how do you like it....I simply nod my head...knowingly.
I was lucky enough to test-ride one about 2 months ago. I was at a shop with my partner and there it was, shimmering and shiny. The shopowner offered me a ride, even though I'm no way capable of affording one right now, which I let him know. No matter, he said. He said he saw the passion and enthusiasm I showed for it was enough to at least let me experience it. After that ride I immediately fell in love with the character and feel of it. If only I had the money. I've started saving, but it'll be a long while before I can get it.
The dash is a bit of a difficult one for me. I understand that Guzzi want to offer at least some of the tech that is expected in this segment. But at the same time, I'd personally probably prefer analogue clocks on this, even if this meant a small LCD was needed beneath them to show some extra info. I just feel like it'd suit the bike better.
I’ve got the Guzzi V7, really enjoy it. The major advantage of them is the shaft drive, whilst it saps the power it is just so much easier to live with. My SV650 that I use for commuting covers everything in chain lube!
Much as I love the look and style of Moto Guzzi's and always will, here in Seoul Korea the lack of official or even qualified service centers and never ending wait for spare parts makes the decision to (not) buy one pretty obvious.
You both make such fantastic videos. It's not just a test or a travelogue. It's the camera work that takes us , the emotions around the design. It is this atmosphere that makes us friends and not just viewers. 1000 thanks for your anazing stories
I‘ve bought two of them this year (the first was destroyed in an accident😕). Now I own a „Guardia d‘Onore“ - what a beauty! About the style, the character and the usabilty I agree with you. It‘s a real Gentleman‘s Explorerer and I loved it😎
Freddie really missed the point of the main feature of the V85TT........shaft drive! It's the only middle weight that offers the option. I iwn a v85tt travel and it is the best bike that I've owned for touring and having fun. I've been riding since 1980 and have owned numerous bikes. The finish and reliability have gone up a notch since Guzzi were taken over by Piaggio. Another point missed
Nice! I think the V85TT is an acquired taste just like the HD Pan America is. Personally, I like that it's a bit different. Great content as usual. Thanks both!
Welp, I put money down on one; a 2023 Adventure model, the blue one. Going to pick it up on Tuesday (about a 4-hour drive to Ohio from where I am in West Virginia). Once I focused on this bike, I was put onto and off it so many times by the RUclips reviews. I'm coming off the supermoto scene and sold my Ducati 950 SP Hypermotard yesterday. But we're moving up to Michigan where there are no twisty roads near us, so I'll need to do a little offroad exploring to get my kicks. I was looking at Honda Africa Twins, but I just couldn't get my heart beating over the styling. I was hot for the new Suzuki V-Strom 800 as well, but I just keep gravitating toward the more unusual bikes. Same as you Freddie, I absolutely LOVE the styling of the TT. Thanks for a well-done video! :-)
Good and honest review, but you actually missed the one thing that impressed me the most. It's the vibrations this bike sends out. The engine is capable of making you feel good no matter what you experienced before. The engine sends good vibes everywhere. To the handle bars, to the foot pegs and eventually to your very soul. Making it a very powerful tool to rise your emotions to a point where nothing else matters but riding this bike! And she did that to me in about one hour!
Moto Guzzi is a bike about style, reliability and marque, not ego. They won some Moto Grand Prix in the 1920's so they know how to engineer a good bike. They've been improving the V engine for a long time now and they have really perfected it - Moto Guzzi the Way the V is Meant to be! -Moto Guzzi Norge 1200 owner down under.
Unique in the mid-range adventure segment is its shaft drive - this could tempt me, that and the significant weight saving over my 1250 GS. Thanks for a well-balanced, informative review 👍
Motorbikes and gate crashing dogs, what's not to love!? Another great review..... not my cup of tea personally being a classic/ cruiser fan but your content is always a good watch.
This bike has air cooling and pushrod simplicity . Shaft drive ease of maintenance. Looks gorgeous. And I am a Guzzisti . Why didn't I buy one ? Because it doesn't have 100 hp under the tank .
I've only seen a few of your bike reviews, but somehow you make every bike seem like it's probably the best thing ever made. I don't yet know what to make of that.
my motorcycling friends keep asking me which of my 4 bikes I'd get rid of first. The answer always is, "whichever bike I'm on is my favorite at that time." Each bike is different, and it's very easy to fall in love with all of them. It will be very hard for me to part with any of my bikes which each has its own distinct character. Guzzis really check the box for me, though, and I want another one...
I must say that when I first purchased my v85tt I experienced a bit of buyer remorse. Its looks left me a little flat, it's specs unimpressive. Coming from a v7iii it was immediately more comfortable but just didn't have it's classic retro groove. The dealer offered a fair trade and with factory promotion I made the purchase because it was an excellent deal. Almost 6000 miles and 5 months later I wouldn't trade it. It's now beautiful, can be ridden to it's potential, eats up rough roads with ease, is quick through the curves. It has done many miles of grave roads and a few easy trails, it's easy to maintain yourself, its fuel economy has improved from about 47mpg to 54mpg. It is an occasion each time I ride it, and I ride it almost every day. It has been 100 percent reliable. It's special.
It is very hard call. I test rode one and wasn't that impressed but, later on I thought about it a lot and I still do. As an art piece it is beautiful but, for the money there are many better options. If I was collecting bike, I would definitely have one. Air cooled, shaft drive, stable like cruiser but dirt roads capable. It would be tough to get it dirty though.
@@flanners41 The ones I saw were far from cheap. Everything seemed perfect and there were some details you don't see on bikes in that price range. But, some things missing too. Lots of vibration. Seemed like it could use some power. But, being air cooled it is more about low rpm torque than high rpm hp. I felt it was cruiser adapted for ADV looks and some use but, missing on both ends. Plus, it is italian which means it can be pain in the ass.
I’ve looked at most of the middle weight ADV bikes in the market, except this one. Thank you for this review. I have a 1986 BMW 800cc Tourer and I love it because it has shaft drive, air cooled, no tech to go wrong, I can adjust the valves without taking off the tank, and it is not too big or too small in size and power. The Moto Guzzi is shaft drive, air cooled, just enough tech, I could adjust the valves without taking off the tank or taking it to a dealer, and it’s not too big or too small in size or power. And I can carry gear and my wife. It’s the modern version of my beloved 1986 BMW R80RT. I think I have found my ADV bike! Well done Sir! Nice camera work Monika.😎👍
Some great jackets now days. I like the classic black biker jacket style but some of the tan, brown or grey non leather touring jackets look great also. Choice is a wonderful thing.
It's a lovely looking bike, and if you think of it as Guzzi's modern and updated interpretation of a BMW R80G/S prepped for Paris-Dakar it all makes more sense visually. I'm thinking specifically of Gaston Rahier's bike as being the direct inspiration for this: the flared tank in red and white, 2 cylinder motor with black valve covers, the red frame... it's surprisingly similar.
I'd just like to begin this comment by saying I moved the v85TT up in my list of options, and eventually purchased one, based on your review. I'm glad you're here and taking time to relate, in often difficult and nuanced ways, what these bikes are like for you. I'm a nearly 30 year veteran of street riding and I appreciate your insights and impressions quite a bit. As for the V85TT, I will say that I live and ride in Western North Carolina- a place known for the wonderful roads and scenery, as well as the growing artsy and trendy city of Asheville and it fits every task asked of it with a high degree of style and aplomb. I find the V85TT to be the perfect companion for cruising downtown for a snack or a rare book or an art show. I also find it perfect for finding a twisty road, gravel forest service road, or a new bbq spot. This week I rode it to and from Deal's Gap, the infamous tail of the dragon. While I had the usual fun time with 300+ curves in 11 miles, I much more enjoyed the ride beside the lake South of it on Highway 28 that reminds me a lot of the roads around Loch Ness and Loch Oich. The V85TT handles everything well and I've found myself turning into a Moto Guzzi evangelist after years on Japanese and Hinkley machines- and no small amount of poking fun at Moto Guzzi people as oddball old guys who suffer for their art. I typify this bike by comparing it to that other famous Italian machine made famous by Hunter S Thompson in his essay Song of the Sausage Creature, where the V85TT sings the Song of the Gelato Creature. Instead of rosso painted death on a stick, it's a friendly Italian there to help you get the most out of being on two wheels. I wrote a whole gushing thing about this on my substack the first week I had the bike. Anyway, thank you for continuing on through the ups and downs I'm sure there are and have been, and are to come because your voice and perspective are greatly appreciated. Now if I can just avoid spending 500 bucks on a Goldtop jacket, I'll be all set to buy heated grips, seat, crash bars, and hand guards and ease the Gelato creature into winter where it will morph into the Pain au Chocolate and coffee beast. Cheers, Freddie. -AW
Great review, as always. I bought a 2021 V7 850cc as my first bike from passing my test age 48. I would say that maybe the reliability issue is from older Guzzis and not so much the new ones. I ve done 5500 miles in the year I ve had it and not one issue. I ve also bought a 2017 v7 with 8000 miles on for my sweetheart who's taking lessons and it runs like a dream. I adore them and it's a boyhood dream to ride it. 😊
This week, Jun, 2024, I rode one looking for a bike that would work for a friend getting back into motorcycling. After riding it himself, my friend now owns one. Personally, I was shocked at how good the ride was, from balance, weight and power delivery. My current bikes are a BMW R1250AGSA, a Multistrada 1200 Pikes Peak and a Yamaha Tenere 700. I've really enjoyed all three a lot, but after riding the V85 TT, the Tenere is going on the sale block for the Moto Guzzi. While it isnt a light bike, compared to my others, it is. Further, it balances amazingly well. When I was looking for something lighter and more suited to farm roads and easy trailsI didn't want a KTM 790/890 because of their reliability issues, especially in the middleweight class, os i got the Tenere. Living with it showed that, for me, at 5'9", in addition to being a bit tall, it carries its weight very high up. While I've no doubt that it is the superior off road machine, for my application, the V85 is the clear choice, and I look forward to many years with it.
I had the reliability concerns, but bought one last year. 11,000 miles later and it hasn't missed a beat. The word character is always used, but it really does sum up the V85. In the real world it has enough power. I came to mine from a Multistrada. Inevitably I initially noticed the reduced power, but the key to the v85 is getting the best out of the motor. When you do it is a joy, and such fun to ride. The best all round bike I've ever owned. Also I love it precisely because it not a BMW, ktm, or Japanese! I can't say I'm planning on visiting an art gallery any time soon, but I get your point👍
Good review Freddy......buy one!
Brilliant to hear an owner’s experience, thanks Archibald!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great comment. I noticed the price decrease and now the Guardia d'Onore E5 is only 12k USD with ALL the fixings. It's a crazy good deal! I need another bike like hole in the head, but I think I'll pull the plug when I get my new job. @77archibald, have you had to adjust the valves yet?
@@aaronis31337 The bike is still under warranty so I have had the deaker service the bike so far, and they adjusted them. I have one more dealer service due, then once out of warranty I will do all servicing myself. That's another great thing about the V85, it is so easy to work on compared to most modern bikes.
Definitely. I have one, it's a joy everyday, and I mean, I ride it 365 days/ per year... maybe a little less as I don't ride on snowy days, and I do a couple of remote workdays too, but besides those, it's a daily thrill. It is not a rational choice, but is motorcycle rational ?
As far as reliability, 27000 kms in two years, 0 problem besides a flat tire
As a current Motoguzzi 1200 sport owner, the answer to “ would I buy it” ?? In a heart beat!
Strange thing is Freddie, Visited a multi franchise dealer here in Cardiff yesterday , looking to buy an adventure/touring bike. Being a Harley fan and owner I seriously went there to buy a Pan America. Ended up test riding the Pan America then the B.M.W GS 850, both were O.K, good and bad features on both. But sat all alone in the corner was a V85TT which I kept glancing at Just for the way it looked. Ended up test riding. Really had character, overall finish better than the two aforementioned bikes. Then bought it. So here goes Moto Guzzi ownership.
Was it black by any chance ?
I think I saw it there as well. Good deal I think
Moto Guzzi’s have always had a very nice character about them, and sit aside all the other ident-i-kit models from all the other manufacturers. Can anyone honestly spot the difference between the BMW 850 and the equivalent Triumph for example? And they’re thousands dearer too. Air cooled V-twin has a lot less to go wrong too. 👍
@@huwlewis9153 I wondered why Chris hadn’t rung me back. Was going to see it next week 😂
Love it, buy with passion 👍
Great review. I pulled the trigger 18 months ago and bought the V85tt Travel. Absolutely love the bike and really impressed with the reliability and quality. Not having to mess around with oily chains before a ride is a big bonus.
Oily wheel...even the one in the salvage auction had an oily rear wheel... overfilled at the factory!
The best time to oil a chain is after a ride actually. The oil will seep into a warm chain better than a cold one.
Always wanted a Guzzi ever since i started riding 40+ yrs ago. Recently semi - retired bit the bullet and got myself a brand new V85tt Traveller. Just back from 2,000 miles around Spain and Portugal on her and loved every minute . Never missed a beat , 65+ to the gallon in comfort. Would fully recomendva Guzzi to anyone. Pure joy .
I have this bike - it’s one of my favourites - full of character - comfortable and great handling
So I finally went and did it! I bought my V85TT Travel "grigio' 3 weeks ago and this was one of the many reviews that sealed the deal for me - What a dream of a bike - I am no speed freak as only just passed my test at the tender age of 55 and mortality looms with increased foreboding nowadays. The character and balance of the vehicle are superb, I simply adore my daily rides even though I am breaking it in - I plan to pootle around the back roads of Sussex and Surrey for a few months, and then with my new, sadly black coloured, passport I will sally forth to Scandinavia, Switzerland, Spain or anywhere else my whim whisks me away to...Love your channel Freddie and love love love this review in particular...
One of the few bikes on the market with genuine character. It is genuinely special.
Respect your approach to reviews Freddie. Like many life choices and especially motorcycles, the heart wants what the heart wants, often in spite of the cold hard facts. As an Italian bike owner, I can attest to that. Your style of being able to call out the failings of a bike together with pointing out the positives, and then to express the emotional call of the heart, totally represents my reaction to motorcycles. Thank you 😊
Thank you DW- that means a lot. I’m delighted you enjoy the reviews🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
Totally agree! (From a fact-oriented German... 😊)
Couldn't agree more
Okay so here's one for you, after owning a ktm 890r for just under a year I swapped to a v85 tt and hand on heart the best decision I ever made.
Keep up the good honest non biased reviews Freddie
What led you to switch? I'm considering both bikes (a non-R though). The V85 is the emotional choice, while the KTM wins on paper/capability.
@@mitch4719 the ktm just seems to be a different animal it's more like a dirt bike then an adventure bike, the v85 is relaxed and comfortable if you will never venture off road the v85 is a top choice. Hope that helps
There are motorcycles that transport you and then there are motorcycles that transport the soul. This bike surprised me by being one of those motorcycles that moved me when my buddy bought one and I stepped off my 890 Rally during a ride and took his V85 TT. It shocked me at its capabilities. The best feature of this bike is it’s yellow lab good nature. It instantly lowers your blood pressure and puts you in the mood to relax and take in the beauty of the world around you. Such a great motorcycle.
It instantly lowers your blood pressure and puts you in the mood to relax and take in the beauty of the world around you. Exactly!
@@lucmercierqc I ended up buying one at the end of last year with the 2023s getting discounted before the new 24 show up. I picked up a blue adventure and absolutely love it. I still have my 890 for more off road hard track adventures. The V85TT has become my favorite bike.
Adventure bikes are such practical all round machines, it makes them an obvious choice. But life is already too full of necessary practicalities. The V85 manages to combine practicality with passion and is the only adventure bike I'd consider.
It's an historic marque, 100 years in same factory.... They are old school cool, not fast, not "try hard", just cool ....... it's impossible to describe, but once you own a Moto Guzzi, you never want to be without one!
Words!
They used to be fast - but lost it in the last 20-30 years............
Rode the V7 Special and it really feels special. :) Drop by to check it.
it is exactly like that
Very nice bike it is, Guzzi did an excellent job on the design, Its not the most powerfull one but its all about enjoying the journey and fun you will have on this beauty! Looks way better than the BMW GS ! Great video thanks for sharing, greetings from the Netherlands everyone ❤️
Hi Freddy. I pulled the trigger last November. My previous bike was the same as yours. A 2008 Bonneville SE. I really loved her. But to me, it was a little bit to small (I’m 1,86m) and not really adequate for long trip (I’m older than you are).
I bought a V85TT and really don’t regret. 10 000 km since then, 2 road trips (one to Mandello of course!). So far, that was only fun! And reliability 100% at 15000 km.
I tried other bikes. All were good, even better (surely more powerful, maybe better suspensions), but there was no life out of them. This one is living, full of character!
18,000 miles on mine in the first 11months, leaving on another cross country trip here in the states in 2 weeks. It is exactly as you say. A fantastically wonderful machine!! I wholeheartedly love mine for exactly what it is, & for exactly what it’s not.
This is just what Guzzis are all about. Well described. With passion.
Being an owner of 2 Guzzi’s (both cali’s), in my experience, you like a Guzzi or not. Guzzi, for me, stands for a feeling, a way to ride bikes (less revs, more torque, two cilinders, air cooled) I just can say that some ‘disadvantages’ are willingly embraced by Guzzi lovers, just because it is a Guzzi. It is a brand apart of all others. You like it or not. I drove all kind of bikes and all different brands and types. When I got involved in the Guzzi’s 10 years ago, I still regret it I did choose for a BMW R60 instead of the 850T Guzzi, displayed next to it (same price). I guess one has to ‘mature’ a bit before appreciating a certain bike. Guzzi comes with a bit of lifestyle as well. Saying this, as long there is fun and appreciation for what one is riding, it never can be a wrong choice. Who am I telling somebody else what bike to ride…
That is nice and the only adventure bike I’d consider. Simple, good value, stylish and very cool. Good video again Freddie, keep it up😉
Keep taking the medication.........LOL
Thank you Will!🙂 I’d genuinely consider one of these too🏍👌🏻🇮🇹
The art you poured into this presentation makes me feel lucky that I got to watch it. You represented Moto Guzzi well…they should be proud of your efforts and honesty
Cheers
Did you write this yourself Freddie 😮
@@mikeyboy1360 I assure you I’m not Freddie. My comment was genuine and authentic and stands as is 😁
I bought my new V85tt back in May. It is my 6th Guzzi, so I was no stranger to the "Guzzi's are unreliable" mantra. I had minor issues with my LeMans and my 1200 Sport, but the V85 feels bombproof. Build quality is very impressive, certainly better than my mates BMW 900GS which had to have a new engine fitted, due to QC issues. I will stick with my ancient air cooled, 2vpc, pushrod equipped, shaft driven masterpiece, thank you very much!
I still own an '07 1200 Sport. How would you compare both? I don't need power, but I certainly would like an easier to ride bike.
The TT is a lot lighter and is agile and a joy to ride. I no longer own it due to having both my knees replaced and finding it a bit too tall! Get a test ride, you'll love it!
One of the best reviews I have seen so far for this little beauty. You had that much passion while talking about the v85tt that I would have bought her now. But ... I already own it ;-)
Great review! I used to have a V7 Stone and switched to the V85TT for more comfort for long journeys. It's true that (especially the older bikes pre 2014) have some reliability issues. But since the Piaggio group bought Guzzi these reliability issues got (for the most part) ironed out. I never had issues with the V7 and none with the V85TT. The BMW 850 GS maybe the more powerfull bike, but in my opinion the marriage between old school machinery (the transverse V-twin engine) combined with simple electric technology (the basicis, nohting fancy) is better done on the V85TT. I went on holiday with a guy who owns a GS, for me far too much technology...also he needed a repair whilest we were on holiday, damn those BMW prices :) :) This is just my opinion, I still thinks the GS is a beautiful bike, to each his own ;) Have a great day everybody and thank you Freddie for the enjoyable video!
This wasn't even on my radar before but after watching this it really appeals, bikes are so much more than spec / performance and those touches are what makes your emotions stir imho! Thanks for creating this!!!
Absolutely gorgeous looking bike, the Italian craftsmen are amazing at creating functional art!
I am seriously considering the V85 TT, it's an amazing bike for the midwest where a daily commute consists of suburban blacktop road, highway riding and the inevitable gravel/dirt road.
Just an amazingly capable and beautiful bike!
Freddie as always your good taste in quality and art seems Italian. Therefore VT85 can only impress you well.
Hi Freddy,
I bought a Guzzi 1400 tourer last year and it has turned out to be the nicest bike I have owned. I just returned from a 3500 mile trip through Spain, Portugal and France and the Guzzi never missed a beat and was so comfortable to ride, I was so impressed .
I own a 2020 and absolutely love it, this bike is meant for people who enjoy to ride not for people who have something to prove. Easly one of the most comfortable and playful bikes I've ever owned. Shes been nothing but reliable so far. One of the best decisions in motorcycles I've ever made and just look at all that beauty 😍
Historical brand, unique machine, axle and the simplicity compared with the other competitors…
Oh Freddie, I must tell you that your materials have sth special. I'm an absolute fan of your narration, camera work, music, and the general vibe of this channel. Thank you!
Freddie, thank you for an honest review. My twin brother and I bought the Yellow tri colour E4 V85TT without test riding it. We lusted for it from get go. Love at first sight. Waited for them to arrive, dreaming of them every night.
I own an Alfa Romeo 159 and an Abarth 124 spider.
All 3 of my Italian babies are art, form and function at their best. Everytime I walk towards them I stare, everytime I walk away I stare at my beauties. A Monica Bellucci moment I confess.
La vita è bèlla. Ciao.
Bought one about two months ago. Tried really hard to like the Triumph Tiger 900 but it was the superior fit, finish, and character of the V85tt that won out. Best blend of tech with an air-cooled engine and drive shaft. Will age better and be easier to service at home. Admittedly, I have a preference for Guzzis and own a 2015 Griso (from new) with 40,000km of trouble free riding. My only caution to new owners (at least in Canada) is the small dealer network and limited parts / accessories suppliers. These factors may amplify small service issues and perceptions about reliability.
Hi Freddie - Such a lovely heartwarming and generous review - I have just ordered mine - beyond excited - I'm 55, have yearly membership of Tate Modern, and fashion my hipster flat caps out of used copies of the London Review of Books, so I guess this is the bike for me....
Fred, don't forget the shaft drive! Good off road, doesn't pick up muck and grind away metal. Smooth gear changes and no adjustments. Also lasts indefinitely with oil changes!
I have owned my first Guzzi for 6 months and a few days ago I just realised I'm captivated by the brand since I no longer stop to see what's in other bike brand dealer's showroom. Something I use to do quite often.
Bought one about 2 months ago and couldn't be more pleased. I got the travel model which came with side panniers, center stand, tall wind screen and heated grips. Cruise control is standard on all models. Brakes and suspension have been excellent and on a longer weekend I achieved 281 miles out of a tank. Suspension is adjustable front and rear. Seat has been the most comfortable stock seat I've ever had and I've owned a lot of bikes. Electronics are simple, unlike the Africa Twin I had. Maintenance is simple too, as the cylinders are easily accessible for valve clearance checks. Both the bike manual and factory service manual can be found online and downloaded if you prefer to do your own maintenance, which I do. I don't see it as an adventure bike, but more of an adventure styled touring bike that can handle some light off road. Overall, a brilliant bike and I love it!
Being an older rider (59)I remember a time when a guzzi's reputation for unreliability was well earned but not these days . If you google unreliability issues with ANY bike you will see some .Reliability doesn't get written about .
Piaggio invested a lot in improving Guzzi's reliability and overall user experience. Thanks to Aprilia's engineers they came long way from the bikes of 20 years ago. The new V100 seems promising, too.
I bought my 1st Guzzi, the V85TT, in August of 2020. I'm about to turn 23k on it and love it. No problems whatsoever. I finally got to take a major tour the summer of 2021. I met up with an old friend in UT and we rode to the BMW National Rally in Great Falls, MT. BMW riders were constantly stopping me to have a look at my bike. I would imagine that there are so few dealers out there that many of them had only seen the bike in magazines. That ride included TX, NM, CO, UT, WY, MT and ID. I would recommend anyone to give one a test ride.
I've had my eye on one of these from the minute it was introduced, and, in my opinion, it is the most brilliant and beautiful piece in its segment
Well, I went for it and bought a 2019 V7III Racer some time ago. Can't tell you yet about reliability yet because my milage is still low, but they feel solid and well-built. Yes, they're not top of the horsepower ranks, but it's how they deliver it. Such character. I love that it's aircooled, I love the rumble and the accompanying gear whine (gave mine some Agostini exhausts to let it speak more freely), love the rocking motion, love the fact that these are 'real Italian' (built in Italy from Italian parts in a factory where one goes home to 'the mama' for lunch). If I get too old to ride, this thing will stay with me as an 'Objet d'Art'.
After having dreamt of it for a couple years, a few days ago I found a super-deal for one of the very last m.y. 2023 brand-new V85TTs still available, and couldn't resist: I bought it.
Picked it this morning at the dealer: she was waiting for me, her bright-red chassis dressed in a sporty and shiny Blu Uyuni suit smoothly leaning on that V-twin glorious masterpiece.
Got home with a ear-to-ear smile on my face after the first 200 km ride at a truly relaxing pace as it needs to be broken in.
An iconic, stylish, one-of-a-kind piece of engineering which is going to rank high on my personal best-buys-ever parade. Owning one makes me happy, and realizing how much appreciated it is worldwide makes me proud to be Italian.
This thing has a soul: I'm pretty sure I will end up selling my R1200RS, in which despite my efforts I haven't found one so far.
The new v100 is gonna be my next bike. The new smaller more powerful and liquid cooled engine in the v100 will surely find its way onto this bike and possibly the v7 and v9 also. It’s a no brainier. Nice one Freddie .
I was stricken with desire the moment Moto Guzzi introduced the V85TT, but I wasn’t able to make the change. Fast forward to 2022 and the limited edition Guardia D’Onore was calling to me. I could no longer resist. Most bikes I have bought require changes to seat, and/or suspension, etc. but this bike needs nothing.
Another good Vlog F. I did pull the trigger and love the V85. Keeping it in the sweet spot is the key to getting the best from the usable power (+3000rpm). Character in abundance. Enjoy the ride.
Sk glad to head from a V8 TT owner, thank you Mark!🙂
Freddy, if you wanted style and character why did you not get a Himalayan?
Great review Freddy. I love my V85 TT in the Centenario colour. It is a beautiful package. Torquey air cooled 850 cc V twin, ample power, great fuel economy and range from the 21 litre tank, shaft drive, cruise contol and tubeless tyres . The right ingredients for travelling around Australia. And what about the looks and Italian craftmanship and quality materials . Well done to Moto Guzzi . Bellissimo.
Surprised you didn't mention the shaftdrive which is a big plus for a touring motorcycle where you intend to do significant miles and adjusting, cleaning and lubing the chain is a hassle. Not a lover of adventure bike styling but I think the Guzzi looks good. Btw when find a pub with beer at £1 a pint please tell us.
I chose a 2022 V85TT over a GS. I'm a sucker for an Italian, and the bike that stands out from the crowd. I came from a tiger 1050 which I ended up hating, and sold it 1 Yr later. I've just come back from a 900 mile trip on part of the Irish wild Atlantic way and it was indeed all day comfort and never missed a beat. I've put 2500 miles on it in 6 weeks. Riding my Moto Guzzi makes me "feel" special and every single time I walk away I always have to take that second glance. I chose the satin black.
It’s definitely in my top 3 best looking adv bikes. Along with the Ducati Desert X, and the Yamaha T7
I'm a very proud V85TT owner and love it. It certainly has not given me any issues at all in the last 2 years. The only issue is the lack of dealerships here in Australia. I do spend time like you standing back and admiring the bike.
Thanks Dick, I'm going to look into the dealer network, but if reliability isn't an issue then I see a road trip coming every service...(Picton NSW)
After my wife took on a new position at a college up in Michigan, we are moving away from West Virginia and the super-twisty roads i have been able to thoroughly enjoy on sporting bikes such as a Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM, a KTM 690 supermoto and more recently my Ducati 950 Hypermotard SP. The change in landscape from the twisty roads to the flat, straight roads has necessitaded the sale of my Ducati. I now find myself shopping for used adventure bikes the likes of Honda Africa Twin and Suzuki V-Strom 800. Those should be great bikes, but the practicalty of a adventure bikes just dont stirr my soul - until i saw the 2023 Motoguzzi 850 TT.
"Would you actually buy a Moto Guzzi..."
As someone who owns 3...yes. Super reliable.
Out here in the American west ( Idaho ) it’s all about having a dealer that’s not 5 hours away. I’m in my golden years, just got back into motorcycles this year after 42 year hiatus, and picked up a Tiger 900. Lovely bike. As an aside I still own a Ducati 750:Sport I bought in 1974 so Italian machinery is close to my heart. If there was a dealer closer than Salt Lake the Guzzi would have been a serious consideration. At my age , horsepower isn’t the primary consideration. Looks like a bike that would put a grin on every time.
That is a fabulous machine and suits you. It would easily tease me away from my Triumph Speed Twin purely because its a Guzzi. I always luusted after the Guzzi Stelvio but it was just too big for me and intimidating for a family new rider at the time. As with the reliability issue, alot of people with an opinion on Italian car's /bikes have never owned them. It's a reputation that's come from the 70s with the poor steel they used and iffy electrics...there's nothing more or less reliable these days than any other brand. Guzzi is a lifestyle and only Guzzi owners know.. I have had one and miss it so much.. I'd have one tomorrow, if only my garage was big enough for 3 bikes😕
Freddie that MG is your bike. It’s the perfect next step for the channel and believe me, it suits you and M. It’s so cool - go for it
Thanks Richard, I’m tempted by it!🙂
My dad still talks about a Le Man's he owned back in the 70's when he was a young Royal Marine, and his face still lights up when he recounts all the adventures and occasional mishaps he had riding it.
Easily among the top ten most beautiful bikes ever made, it was my " poster bike" as a youngster in the 70,s.
I was a young RM in the late 70s and also had a blue mk1 Le Mans - I know how he feels 👍
Hey Freddie, really love MotoGuzzi for finally making an adventure bike that looks so good. Desirability off the charts for me too.
I think here in Australia with lots of dirt roads it would be very practical. You could take this camping, you could do some touring and you could ride it down to a cafe. I think it really could do it all.
Would I buy one? Yeah if I had the money would love to.
Excellent review Freddie. I’m not a big fan of adventure bikes either but this has a bit less of the ugly plastics than most. Glad you didn’t have the experience that I did! 👍🏼
Thanks very much! I did have to give up asking Moto Guzzi for a bike, because they’ve never replied to me after many attempts. So Mototechniks have been my first opportunity to test a Guzzi in the UK🙂
@@FreddieDobbs It’s very frustrating because some manufacturers don’t comprehend the value in terms of sales and brand awareness channels like yours or mine have to them, and that far exceeds what we’d get in revenue (a hundred pounds or two vs £100,000’s in sales).
Many thanks Freddie, Monica, for making a wonderful video. Freddie's passion for retro shines through. In a tech oriented world, its great to see niche makers like Moto Guzzi live on. There's something about the V85 TT that makes me look harder with a view to owning one. It reminds me of my Honda XL1000 Varadero, a wonderful V twin similar in proportion and size to the V85. Listening to the V85's exhaust as Freddie closed it's throttle, that wonderful "Darth Vader like" sound is unmistakeable, engine breaking through towns always turning heads. We should continue to like and truly consider buying motorbikes with real character. Well done Moto Guzzi.
Similar except the weight, Varadero being almost 50kgs heavier
I'd love one, I think they are everything you described. Moto Guzzi make lovely bikes that are fun to ride and look at. It's a style over speed thing I think. I'd be interested to know how long Guzzi owners keep their bikes for or upgrade to another Guzzi. Great video as always from you both 👍
Freddie your reviews are excellent (as well as coming at the right time, I have to wait at the airport all day 😊) but the delivery and edits as well as being enjoyable are really inspirational and make me want to produce better content myself. Thank you and Monika.
Agree as well as the talent af Monica. She makes for a an excellent video.
The important bit you've seemed to skip is it's the only mid-size with shaft drive, which is something us older bikers actually appreciate! Seriously considering one! I have aKTM 990 SMT at the mo. and lets just say it's doing all of the usual KTM things!
Exactly the reason I am going to buy a V85 TT! I'm 26 and I had two motorcycles so far; one with belt drive and one with shaft drive. And I'm never going to chain drive.. I want something around 850cc but there are not many options with belt or shaft drive if you compare that with the options with chain drive.
I've got a 2018 V7 and I love it. Id love to trade up to one of these soon. Maintenance is easy and the engines have long lives if you take care of them. The service manual goes to 60k miles, changing the clutch once every 30k, valve checks are quick and cheap, other than that there's nothing to it. 10k on mine with no issues
I sold my 2018 VStrom this year. One of the reasons was it was too perfect. It lacked a certain something that would make it a bike I could fall in love with. The V85TT has been on my radar for a while now and I am just waiting for the right time to get one.
Oh, and you failed to bring up one important point about this bike. Shaft drive! Only middleweight adventure bike with a shaft. Helps keep that beauty clean in looks and in amount of thrown chain lube.
Love it!
I was never really into adventure bikes either but to be honest this Moto Guzzi is so exquisitely beautiful that it has me genuinely thinking if I should give it a go
Freddie you look really comfortable on that Moto Guzzi. Monika even liked the pillion pad. I say that’s a keeper
Freddie, you asked if we would buy one. Yes, yes and yes again. I bought the gorgeous black Guardia model. This after twenty years of riding a GS1200 and a much loved 750 Africa Twin. You nailed the reason too - style, art-form and character. In my weekend in Wales, only one other seen amongst the hordes of GS's. Your conclusion is astute - with this bike you own a different and special bike, a part of history, on behalf on Moto- Guzzi.
I just purchased a '22 V85 TT Centenario. Almost too beautiful to ride. You expressed my sentiments exactly. I am very happy to stand there and look at it. I also consider myself lucky to own one so perhaps I will fit right in to the family.
Wonderful motorcycle and a great alternative to the oversized, overpriced and ostentatious alternatives at the high end of the market. I am on my second Guzzi and for me there is nothing else. If you're on a budget find yourself a used Stelvio, you will absolutely love it.
I owned a Le Mans mkl for 10 years through the 80's and it was very reliable. Many trips in Europe and it never let me down. The only problem I had was a universal joint breaking, quite common around 20,000miles but I'm sure that has long been cured. I would definitely consider a V85TT, looks a great bike and they're knocking £750 off the price at the moment.
Never really been into Italian bikes but this one looks great.
I have my V85 TT for 1,5 years now and I did already 13500 kms on it. It is the only bike I've ever had till this time, that makes me smile all the time I ride it. The more you ride V85 TT the more you like it (of course if you like it and want to drive it). For me the COG is OK and it is very manouverable for its weight. You can feel the weight only when manouvering on parking place, to move it forward or backward manually you need some power in your arms :-) The most fascinating thing for me (and you mentioned it in your great review) is the overall balance of the bike. It has just enough power, it goes still the same way without baggage or fuly packed with pillion, suspension comfort makes you forget about road surface, you can still go the same speed, when you get to twisties, oh my, I have scratched both my footpegs many times, big fuel tank and low consumption is great for long distance travel I usually do 500 kms on one tank which is cca 4 l/100 km, it is roomy for driver and pillion. Yes my answer is that I will buy it in fact I already did and I would do it again without blink of an eye. And what about reliabitly? In my case it is 100 % rreliable, the only thing is to check oil level before long distance trip, in hot conditions and higher engine loads V85 TT consumes some oil, so to prevent any oil adding during your trip, do it at home. Moto Guzzi is about character, it is very unique bike and they do everything in their way not like all the others. And it is the biggest advantage in my eyes in comparison with other brands that is it not BMW, KTM, Yamaha or whatever. Enjoy riding and the rubber side down. ;-)
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After various bikes through my life, I "upgraded" my 1100XX Blackbird to V85. V85TT is easily the best bike I have ever owned. Best stock suspension I have tried. Quality of craftsmanship is magnificent. Almost the whole bike is hand made in Italy and by parts made in Italy. Seat is very good after about 5000km, very plush and "sticky". Dry weight is just over 200kg, fuel tank is largest in class, 23 litres (6gallons). Fuel consumption is low, about 4 litres per 100km (my record is 3,6l/100km). You can ride V85 TT everywhere, it really depends which tires you have. 10/10
I bought a brand new one in green a few months ago and loving every minute of it. what a bike
as an owner of the 2020 version, 7000 trouble free miles, I have no regrets on trading off my bmw 1200 gs. causing on the open plains at 90mph plus fully loaded..she continues to amaze and delight. a few quirks, that you mentioned are less than a pebble in my shoe.. the pride of ownership...oozes from my being when parking next to anything else... people always want to know, how do you like it....I simply nod my head...knowingly.
I was lucky enough to test-ride one about 2 months ago. I was at a shop with my partner and there it was, shimmering and shiny. The shopowner offered me a ride, even though I'm no way capable of affording one right now, which I let him know. No matter, he said. He said he saw the passion and enthusiasm I showed for it was enough to at least let me experience it. After that ride I immediately fell in love with the character and feel of it. If only I had the money. I've started saving, but it'll be a long while before I can get it.
The dash is a bit of a difficult one for me. I understand that Guzzi want to offer at least some of the tech that is expected in this segment. But at the same time, I'd personally probably prefer analogue clocks on this, even if this meant a small LCD was needed beneath them to show some extra info. I just feel like it'd suit the bike better.
I’ve got the Guzzi V7, really enjoy it. The major advantage of them is the shaft drive, whilst it saps the power it is just so much easier to live with. My SV650 that I use for commuting covers everything in chain lube!
Great looking bike but so difficult to find dealers in America willing to support and service the brand.
Much as I love the look and style of Moto Guzzi's and always will, here in Seoul Korea the lack of official or even qualified service centers and never ending wait for spare parts makes the decision to (not) buy one pretty obvious.
Just move to Europa, problem solved 😂
Plenty of Guzzis in Japan so I am surprised there are no official dealers at all in Korea, shame.
Very interesting Tai- you’re definitely not alone. It seem that a lot of people have the same issues as well. Thank you for the insight🙂
You both make such fantastic videos. It's not just a test or a travelogue. It's the camera work that takes us , the emotions around the design. It is this atmosphere that makes us friends and not just viewers. 1000 thanks for your anazing stories
I‘ve bought two of them this year (the first was destroyed in an accident😕). Now I own a „Guardia d‘Onore“ - what a beauty!
About the style, the character and the usabilty I agree with you.
It‘s a real Gentleman‘s Explorerer and I loved it😎
Freddie really missed the point of the main feature of the V85TT........shaft drive! It's the only middle weight that offers the option. I iwn a v85tt travel and it is the best bike that I've owned for touring and having fun. I've been riding since 1980 and have owned numerous bikes. The finish and reliability have gone up a notch since Guzzi were taken over by Piaggio. Another point missed
Nice! I think the V85TT is an acquired taste just like the HD Pan America is. Personally, I like that it's a bit different. Great content as usual. Thanks both!
I agree- it’s very unique styling wise, and I really like that👌🏻
Welp, I put money down on one; a 2023 Adventure model, the blue one. Going to pick it up on Tuesday (about a 4-hour drive to Ohio from where I am in West Virginia). Once I focused on this bike, I was put onto and off it so many times by the RUclips reviews. I'm coming off the supermoto scene and sold my Ducati 950 SP Hypermotard yesterday. But we're moving up to Michigan where there are no twisty roads near us, so I'll need to do a little offroad exploring to get my kicks. I was looking at Honda Africa Twins, but I just couldn't get my heart beating over the styling. I was hot for the new Suzuki V-Strom 800 as well, but I just keep gravitating toward the more unusual bikes. Same as you Freddie, I absolutely LOVE the styling of the TT. Thanks for a well-done video! :-)
Awesome video and awesome content can’t wait for the next video Thank’s Freddie and Monika
Thank you Jason!🙂
I’m going to wait for their new engine with radiator & latest euro emissions standard. Same classic styling but up to date. Think 2023/24
Good and honest review, but you actually missed the one thing that impressed me the most.
It's the vibrations this bike sends out. The engine is capable of making you feel good no matter what you experienced before. The engine sends good vibes everywhere. To the handle bars, to the foot pegs and eventually to your very soul. Making it a very powerful tool to rise your emotions to a point where nothing else matters but riding this bike!
And she did that to me in about one hour!
To your very soul, exactly
Moto Guzzi is a bike about style, reliability and marque, not ego. They won some Moto Grand Prix in the 1920's so they know how to engineer a good bike. They've been improving the V engine for a long time now and they have really perfected it - Moto Guzzi the Way the V is Meant to be!
-Moto Guzzi Norge 1200 owner down under.
Unique in the mid-range adventure segment is its shaft drive - this could tempt me, that and the significant weight saving over my 1250 GS. Thanks for a well-balanced, informative review 👍
I have been dreaming about that bike for years so yes I would definitely do it
Motorbikes and gate crashing dogs, what's not to love!? Another great review..... not my cup of tea personally being a classic/ cruiser fan but your content is always a good watch.
This bike has air cooling and pushrod simplicity . Shaft drive ease of maintenance. Looks gorgeous.
And I am a Guzzisti .
Why didn't I buy one ?
Because it doesn't have 100 hp under the tank .
I've only seen a few of your bike reviews, but somehow you make every bike seem like it's probably the best thing ever made. I don't yet know what to make of that.
Feel free to check my test rides. :)
my motorcycling friends keep asking me which of my 4 bikes I'd get rid of first. The answer always is, "whichever bike I'm on is my favorite at that time." Each bike is different, and it's very easy to fall in love with all of them. It will be very hard for me to part with any of my bikes which each has its own distinct character. Guzzis really check the box for me, though, and I want another one...
I must say that when I first purchased my v85tt I experienced a bit of buyer remorse. Its looks left me a little flat, it's specs unimpressive. Coming from a v7iii it was immediately more comfortable but just didn't have it's classic retro groove. The dealer offered a fair trade and with factory promotion I made the purchase because it was an excellent deal. Almost 6000 miles and 5 months later I wouldn't trade it. It's now beautiful, can be ridden to it's potential, eats up rough roads with ease, is quick through the curves. It has done many miles of grave roads and a few easy trails, it's easy to maintain yourself, its fuel economy has improved from about 47mpg to 54mpg. It is an occasion each time I ride it, and I ride it almost every day. It has been 100 percent reliable. It's special.
It is very hard call. I test rode one and wasn't that impressed but, later on I thought about it a lot and I still do. As an art piece it is beautiful but, for the money there are many better options. If I was collecting bike, I would definitely have one. Air cooled, shaft drive, stable like cruiser but dirt roads capable. It would be tough to get it dirty though.
It felt a bit cheap and thrown together for me...and flmsy...may be I missed something.
@@flanners41 The ones I saw were far from cheap. Everything seemed perfect and there were some details you don't see on bikes in that price range. But, some things missing too. Lots of vibration. Seemed like it could use some power. But, being air cooled it is more about low rpm torque than high rpm hp. I felt it was cruiser adapted for ADV looks and some use but, missing on both ends. Plus, it is italian which means it can be pain in the ass.
I’ve looked at most of the middle weight ADV bikes in the market, except this one. Thank you for this review. I have a 1986 BMW 800cc Tourer and I love it because it has shaft drive, air cooled, no tech to go wrong, I can adjust the valves without taking off the tank, and it is not too big or too small in size and power. The Moto Guzzi is shaft drive, air cooled, just enough tech, I could adjust the valves without taking off the tank or taking it to a dealer, and it’s not too big or too small in size or power. And I can carry gear and my wife. It’s the modern version of my beloved 1986 BMW R80RT. I think I have found my ADV bike! Well done Sir! Nice camera work Monika.😎👍
Tuning into this video with my brother whilst we are choosing some jackets. love your work fredd!
Some great jackets now days. I like the classic black biker jacket style but some of the tan, brown or grey non leather touring jackets look great also. Choice is a wonderful thing.
@@littlefishy6316 absolutely! we are honestly having more issue with cost than anything. too many lovely choices.
Really appreciate it, thanks Rhys! Happy shopping!🙂
It's a lovely looking bike, and if you think of it as Guzzi's modern and updated interpretation of a BMW R80G/S prepped for Paris-Dakar it all makes more sense visually. I'm thinking specifically of Gaston Rahier's bike as being the direct inspiration for this: the flared tank in red and white, 2 cylinder motor with black valve covers, the red frame... it's surprisingly similar.
I am a huge fan of the Moto Guzzi brand, I love the fact they do things their way.
I bought mine 2 days ago, will comment again after getting in some serious road time.
Shaft drive. Did you not notice, or did you, as it seemed, go out of your way not to mention the most obvious difference from the competition.
I'd just like to begin this comment by saying I moved the v85TT up in my list of options, and eventually purchased one, based on your review. I'm glad you're here and taking time to relate, in often difficult and nuanced ways, what these bikes are like for you. I'm a nearly 30 year veteran of street riding and I appreciate your insights and impressions quite a bit.
As for the V85TT, I will say that I live and ride in Western North Carolina- a place known for the wonderful roads and scenery, as well as the growing artsy and trendy city of Asheville and it fits every task asked of it with a high degree of style and aplomb. I find the V85TT to be the perfect companion for cruising downtown for a snack or a rare book or an art show. I also find it perfect for finding a twisty road, gravel forest service road, or a new bbq spot. This week I rode it to and from Deal's Gap, the infamous tail of the dragon. While I had the usual fun time with 300+ curves in 11 miles, I much more enjoyed the ride beside the lake South of it on Highway 28 that reminds me a lot of the roads around Loch Ness and Loch Oich. The V85TT handles everything well and I've found myself turning into a Moto Guzzi evangelist after years on Japanese and Hinkley machines- and no small amount of poking fun at Moto Guzzi people as oddball old guys who suffer for their art.
I typify this bike by comparing it to that other famous Italian machine made famous by Hunter S Thompson in his essay Song of the Sausage Creature, where the V85TT sings the Song of the Gelato Creature. Instead of rosso painted death on a stick, it's a friendly Italian there to help you get the most out of being on two wheels. I wrote a whole gushing thing about this on my substack the first week I had the bike.
Anyway, thank you for continuing on through the ups and downs I'm sure there are and have been, and are to come because your voice and perspective are greatly appreciated. Now if I can just avoid spending 500 bucks on a Goldtop jacket, I'll be all set to buy heated grips, seat, crash bars, and hand guards and ease the Gelato creature into winter where it will morph into the Pain au Chocolate and coffee beast. Cheers, Freddie. -AW
Great review, as always.
I bought a 2021 V7 850cc as my first bike from passing my test age 48.
I would say that maybe the reliability issue is from older Guzzis and not so much the new ones.
I ve done 5500 miles in the year I ve had it and not one issue. I ve also bought a 2017 v7 with 8000 miles on for my sweetheart who's taking lessons and it runs like a dream.
I adore them and it's a boyhood dream to ride it. 😊
I’m so happy to hear this Paul, because the new 850cc V7 would be on my next bike shortlist🙂
@@FreddieDobbs I could see you loving the old school cool, and charm. I ve fitted mistral short cans and a LFS fly screen. It's just 💙
This week, Jun, 2024, I rode one looking for a bike that would work for a friend getting back into motorcycling. After riding it himself, my friend now owns one. Personally, I was shocked at how good the ride was, from balance, weight and power delivery. My current bikes are a BMW R1250AGSA, a Multistrada 1200 Pikes Peak and a Yamaha Tenere 700. I've really enjoyed all three a lot, but after riding the V85 TT, the Tenere is going on the sale block for the Moto Guzzi. While it isnt a light bike, compared to my others, it is. Further, it balances amazingly well. When I was looking for something lighter and more suited to farm roads and easy trailsI didn't want a KTM 790/890 because of their reliability issues, especially in the middleweight class, os i got the Tenere. Living with it showed that, for me, at 5'9", in addition to being a bit tall, it carries its weight very high up. While I've no doubt that it is the superior off road machine, for my application, the V85 is the clear choice, and I look forward to many years with it.