I'm glad this option is available for aligning the burrs. This is quite advanced for your average consumer. I would assume anyone with an issue would expect the warranty to handle this type of work.
This man is giving you instructions usually reserved for discerning enthusiasts of coffee. Not really the crowd a $230 grinder attracts. Of course your machines are under warranty and you could send them back. Just know that people who spend a lot more money on other grinders do this because they want to improve the grinding. Not because they have to. My df54 is working great but I came here to get guidance on disassembly because I will be testing alignment on mine soon. Thank you for this video.
Umm... I would argue that the "crowd" of people who are willing to spend 230$ on a coffee grinder IS that of discerning coffee enthusiasts. Ask anybody on the street how much they paid for their coffee grinder. 99% will look at you confused and say that they buy pre-ground. This IS a grinder for coffee enthusiasts. Just not the rich type. But everyone who buys this grinder knows what they get and what they don't get. And people like that (people like me) are fine with a bit of tinkering if it saves them hundreds of dollars.
@@HenryPiffpaff everything is relative. It depends where you are on your coffee journey.i aligned mine and I’m happy to report got a nice return on investment for pour overs 👍
@@HenryPiffpaff yup, saves hundreds of dollars *and* if you spend the time to do a fine tuning of alignment, then the result will be even better than one would get with the more expensive, but not as finely aligned, grinder (because no manufacturer even for a price that is a couple of hundred dollars more, can afford to have a per unit hand tuned alignment).
@@LukeZhang Precision comes with a quality manufacturing. If you can not manufacture a quality part, you can not sell it to anyone. Misaligned machines moving at 1500 RPM can be dangerous to human life.
Is some amount of lower burr carrier wobble normal on these? Mine has some visible wobble on the lower burr and I think it’s probably detrimental to grind quality
@@miicoffee But they need to stay parallel to each other across every angle of rotation. So both burrs need to be exactly orthogonal to the axis of rotation, right? A marker test should be done on each burr to check that. (If my understanding is correct, being new to all this.)
I've brought one df54 and I was looking videos of it on RUclips and now I find this video and I don't get it!!! what I have to do when I receive my grinder to know if its aligned? i have to open a new grinder and paint it with a marker to know if it's aligned? a brand new product? How will I know if it's aligned? without open it?
People just need an aftermarket rubber dial indicator instead of a heat gun. Also stupid that you cannot have a similar zero to df64 that’s so weird to not be able to zero
i just received my DF54 last week and it came perfectly aligned. It’s very rare you have to do this process. For the money, you cannot go wrong with this and the brand as a whole.
@@neilvillanueva6449 oh really? Well, I have had my current ceado for years and never had an issue. I’m looking for a new grinder just to have but it seems like the alignment issue is common, but I guess only the people that had issued the report.
you kidding me that you spend all that money on a grinder and you still have to make adjustments where I understand should be done by manufacturer. I pass it.
Everything comes at a price. If you compare prices, you'll realize that this grinder is relatively cheap. Not that I wouldn't wish that the manufacturer took care of it, but then you can probably add another 50$ to the price - which at this price point is a substantial increase.
It is not saying that you have to do it, it is only showing how it is done, also if your mill comes with a misalignment you can always return them by warranty. In my case, it was not necessary to do this because the molars were well aligned.
@@HenryPiffpaff I just bought a cheap Makita power drill from local dealer. I do not think Makita expects me to align the drill chuck with the rotation axis, just because it cost only hundred bucks... A precise alignment of moving parts is an integral component of any machine manufacturing and it is what manufacturer is responsible for.
I'm glad this option is available for aligning the burrs. This is quite advanced for your average consumer. I would assume anyone with an issue would expect the warranty to handle this type of work.
This man is giving you instructions usually reserved for discerning enthusiasts of coffee. Not really the crowd a $230 grinder attracts. Of course your machines are under warranty and you could send them back. Just know that people who spend a lot more money on other grinders do this because they want to improve the grinding. Not because they have to. My df54 is working great but I came here to get guidance on disassembly because I will be testing alignment on mine soon. Thank you for this video.
Umm... I would argue that the "crowd" of people who are willing to spend 230$ on a coffee grinder IS that of discerning coffee enthusiasts. Ask anybody on the street how much they paid for their coffee grinder. 99% will look at you confused and say that they buy pre-ground. This IS a grinder for coffee enthusiasts. Just not the rich type. But everyone who buys this grinder knows what they get and what they don't get. And people like that (people like me) are fine with a bit of tinkering if it saves them hundreds of dollars.
@@HenryPiffpaff everything is relative. It depends where you are on your coffee journey.i aligned mine and I’m happy to report got a nice return on investment for pour overs 👍
@@HenryPiffpaff yup, saves hundreds of dollars *and* if you spend the time to do a fine tuning of alignment, then the result will be even better than one would get with the more expensive, but not as finely aligned, grinder (because no manufacturer even for a price that is a couple of hundred dollars more, can afford to have a per unit hand tuned alignment).
make a video on reversing the motor so we can change out the burrs. I want to use Ceramic Burr on this but it does the spin in the direction.
It's kind of shitty that we can't rezero the DF54 easily. I hope this will be fixed in future designs.
Honestly its a $250. this corner cut is the reason for the cost. So dont expect warranty for this. However it should be a fixed issue for new units.
Shouldnt this be aligned precisely by the manufacturer?
Most manufacturers don't. Our manufacturer does align burrs but the standard is unknown.
@@LukeZhang It comes down to CNC precision in manufacturing. Levelling a burr with an aluminium foil is a sign of manufacturing failure.
@@bflmpsvz870 Precision comes with a cost. You can get a much more expensive grinder for a better precision.
@@LukeZhang Precision comes with a quality manufacturing. If you can not manufacture a quality part, you can not sell it to anyone. Misaligned machines moving at 1500 RPM can be dangerous to human life.
@@bflmpsvz870 LOL, you don't know much about tolerance and manufacturing.
Does the marker contaminate the beans?
Use water-based marker and wipe off after you have done the alignment.
Is some amount of lower burr carrier wobble normal on these? Mine has some visible wobble on the lower burr and I think it’s probably detrimental to grind quality
Should we also do the same to the bottom bur for best alignment? I assume the marker on the bottom should also be wiped off ideally?
The idea is to make two burrs in parallel. So you can choose one side and it will be sufficient.
@@miicoffee But they need to stay parallel to each other across every angle of rotation. So both burrs need to be exactly orthogonal to the axis of rotation, right? A marker test should be done on each burr to check that. (If my understanding is correct, being new to all this.)
@@a3455666 yes, ideally both burrs should have marker test.
What is the paste you used on the foil?
Just looked like reassembly grease to me.
I've brought one df54 and I was looking videos of it on RUclips and now I find this video and I don't get it!!! what I have to do when I receive my grinder to know if its aligned? i have to open a new grinder and paint it with a marker to know if it's aligned? a brand new product?
How will I know if it's aligned? without open it?
Just grind beans and dial in for espresso. If you can grind fine enough for espresso the burrs are well aligned.
People just need an aftermarket rubber dial indicator instead of a heat gun. Also stupid that you cannot have a similar zero to df64 that’s so weird to not be able to zero
you can just use marker, and make a dot or line on the outside of the funnel, even cheaper option
There is no 'X' in espresso
Lol wtf
I'm definitely not buying a heat gun for my coffee grinder 😐
It’s one of the most useful tools at home
I dont trust anyone who uses the word expresso.
English isn't his first language, jackass
This video made me order the ceado e6p sorry but way too much work
That's like 3 times the price ...
@@KaranRajpal yeah but you get what you pay for. I'm certainly no longer considering the current brand and am now going to purchase the e6p.
i just received my DF54 last week and it came perfectly aligned. It’s very rare you have to do this process. For the money, you cannot go wrong with this and the brand as a whole.
@@neilvillanueva6449 oh really? Well, I have had my current ceado for years and never had an issue. I’m looking for a new grinder just to have but it seems like the alignment issue is common, but I guess only the people that had issued the report.
why not get a weber eg1
you kidding me that you spend all that money on a grinder and you still have to make adjustments where I understand should be done by manufacturer. I pass it.
Everything comes at a price. If you compare prices, you'll realize that this grinder is relatively cheap. Not that I wouldn't wish that the manufacturer took care of it, but then you can probably add another 50$ to the price - which at this price point is a substantial increase.
It is not saying that you have to do it, it is only showing how it is done, also if your mill comes with a misalignment you can always return them by warranty. In my case, it was not necessary to do this because the molars were well aligned.
@@darchtemp Got your point. Thank you!
@@alesantiago Thank you, I prefer the mark to be clear about how to align the burrs, regardless of whether we need it or not :)
@@HenryPiffpaff I just bought a cheap Makita power drill from local dealer. I do not think Makita expects me to align the drill chuck with the rotation axis, just because it cost only hundred bucks... A precise alignment of moving parts is an integral component of any machine manufacturing and it is what manufacturer is responsible for.