Sony a9 II vs a7R IV
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Here is a comparison and overview of the Sony a9 ii and a7R IV.
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finally a review about two cameras that I can't buy :P XD
In same boat. Just watching no touching for me. Hahaha
Just rent one
me neither 😂😂😂
10MP unusable? Wow … how did some of the most influential photographers just work back in the days, when 10MP was only an engineers wet dream? I mean … all of their work was unusable … right?! What an unusable statement.
I've been looking for this comparison for awhile, thanks
A7R iv gives you wide latitude to crop. Its amazing how much you can crop and still keep image tack sharp.
10 Megapixel is unusable? I've shot over 200 Weddings professionally with the 10 Megapixel. Canon1D Mark 2 camera
same here nikon d3 12megapixels for years
When having large format printing wedding pictures, definitely unusable maybe ok for little 8x3 desk pics.
Excellent review!! If I get you right, the A7R IV is kind of the jack of all trades, a camera that does pretty much everything very well whereas the A9 II is kind of like a Ferrari on a race track like a very sharp and precise instrument (but, only within the confines if the race track). I am a birder, I guess what it boils down to is the difference in the acquisition rate. Birds in general are hard to capture, they are tiny and they jump around. And unless you are using a huge prime with a bigger aperture of say f/4, most would be using a super zoom of some sort with an aperture of f/6.3 at best without the use of a tele converter, which means you are not letting in much light for the camera to work with. Some say the A9 or A9 II's hit rate is close to 100% or at least well over 90%. I am not sure whether you shoot birds, what would you say the A7R IV's hit rate is? Also, now that the A9 II is out, that makes the original A9's reduced price point almost the same as an A7R IV. This is a tough one I think. May be the AF on the A7R IV is also excellent in its own way? If that's the case, may be the A7R IV is the way to go.
I own the A7R4, tracking with birds are very good. The problem is ISO. Like you mentioned, most ppl like me shoot telephoto at F6.3, when the light is not that bright in a cloudy day, the ISO goes all the way up to 12800 easily if you want to keep the shutter speed around 1/1000s or 1/2000s. The noise on A7R4 at ISO 12800 is so terrible and the photos are barely useful. I am a landscape photographer, recently trying some bird shooting and the post editing is so painful for A7R4. Maybe I should save money for a A9II.
This review actually helped me decide where to spend my money. Thank you!
So what was your decision and why?
Are you still happy with bought camera after one year?
I would really appreciate your answer! Thx!
Currently using an a7iii and a6400 for wildlife; the a7iii when 600mm is enough and I want max quality and the a6400 when I need the extra reach. The a7riv is a compelling option having both options built into one camera. As a hobbyist it doesn't really make sense for me to sell/upgrade, but definitely compelling for anyone who is at a point where upgrading makes sense.
I have an issue with you saying that 10mpx images are unusable. There are are 10s of thousands of pro images out there that were taken with lower mpix cameras just 10-15 years ago. 10mpx is plenty good enough for printing decent size images and far more than needed for digital only images. Only some pros really need 60 mpix. We have fallen into a huge marketing trap, proliferated by this ridiculous pixel peeping done by most RUclips reviewers. I shudder to think of how many amateurs and even prosumers overspend on a camera only because they think they need super high mpix when it’s just hype.
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Totally correct what you say. My first camera had 6 MP. That worked fine at the time and I also have some fine prints from that camera.
Well said!
On point !
Jimmy Colorado you’ve missed the point.
I use the A9II for my wildlife photography but may add the 7R4 for my channel in the New year awesome cameras great comparison thanks
I have A9II also, love it. I am considering A7R4 also for wildlife but iso noise concerns me..If I use A7R4 in apsc 26mp crop mode will these images be similar to A9II images with regards to iso noise levels ?
@@chasmoonie3403 The A9II and A9 have better low light capabilities being less pixels than the A7r4 (so less is more and don't generate as much noise.) However in great light situations you will be able to reach much further with in theory 26 mega pixel crop of the A7r4. Thats why someone like Mark Smith in Florida (blue skies) has the A7r4. As usual with photography equipment there is a trade off somewhere, and in England you would have to pack your fair weather camera A7R4 . But you also need 20 frames per second and the fastest autofocus?
Agree…I’m adding both. That should keep me covered for several years.
Man I've been waiting for this! I have the A7r iv and wanted to changed it to a9ii but you convinced me to keep a7r4 . Thanks again!
Thank you for the video, I was looking for it for a long time.
I'm a Wildlife Photographer and I'm going for the A9II as an upgrade from my current a6400. Want to be able to shoot faster, have more accurate focusing and the full frame capabilities. My a6400 is gonna act as my backup camera and cinema camera.
Still using my 4yr old A7R2.... will consider changing to A7iv if it has a 36-42mp sensor with the latest AF tech at A7 prices
Thank you so much for this excellent and profound video! Merry Christmas!
The crop mode of the a7RIV (or any other full-frame camera) does not give you more "reach" if by reach you mean more magnification of your subject. Your subject is the same size (in pixels) whether you shoot in full-frame mode or crop mode. You are simply cropping the picture in camera, not magnifying your image/subject (except in the viewfinder).
I would love going A7Riv but I am just afraid to get a too slow workflow with it from those super heavy stills :/
Shot in compressed raw and they aren't 70-100mb more around 45 ish and not lacking any info in the pics for editing either.
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TheDigitalDigest - which one of these do you suggest for airplane photography , planespotting and videos?
I like your videos but just a little constructive criticism. This video could have been just as good at half the length. ie. you repeted yourself and downright rambled at times.
@CJ Jacobs Constructive criticism is intended to help one improve. I didn't flame anyone. I get the feeling I would not be able to say the same about any comment you'd make on one of my videos. He's go nearly 80 thousand subscribers... if I had 80K subscribers I would not expect to be criticism free.
great comparison i'm going with the a92 for the focus and acquisition factors due to my really really bad shacks i have due to meds i take.
Any thoughts on how the new sony a7iv compares with the sony a9ii in terms for a wedding photographer?
Thanks for making this video. It helped me decide on ar4.
Thanks for this great video, Most people keep talking about simple negative points and never help to make a desscision
Great review......could have mentioned the 240mp pixal shift feature on A7R IV but most dont use that anyways.
I currently the A7R III and am trying to save uo for the R IV.
Also, I cant wait to see what the A7 IV will be like when sony announces it. Hopfully itll be at least 30mp. Then Ill trade my A7R III for the A7 IV and have the A7R IV as well.
Same I'd love a A7iv at 30mp !
I still have no idea what to do; I'm an MMA photographer, who needs insane AF, but also I shoot portraits and circus art.
Guess I have to shell out cash for an A1...
Considering trading in my D850 set up for the a7RIV - would probably lose some money doing that since I have invested in a lot of Nikon glass, but I already have an A7c and a couple of really nice lenses (like the 100-400 G master) there also. Any opinions?
To summarise, the A9II is the better camera but not necessarily worth the extra cost?
I’m sorry but the a7riv CANNOT accommodate all forms of photography. I work in news, I can’t send the huge files the a7riv has to clients. APS-C mode is not a solution either. Pointless having APS-C on any full frame camera tbh. Strange because for freelancers, none of these cameras are within the range for photojournalists. But for those working with wire firms, of course, they will be provided such equipment.
The a9ii is for everyone. The a7riv is for commercial. But even then, commercial/fashion photographers will spend more and use hassleblads/medium formats.
I just realized the A7RIV gets a boost in buffer depth up to 200 jpegs when shooting in crop mode. Sweet!
8mp is enough for a 4k monitor so how is 10mp crop unusable?
R4 cons: huge files, noisier ISO, VF lag and blackout during continuous shooting, and can’t switch between full/crop while buffer recovers
9ii cons: lower-res vf, “only” 25mp, less dynamic range than R4.
Both are amazing but to me the real time tracking, no-blink cont. shooting, and capturing the moment is worth more than the detail; which can be had with glass anyway.
LOL 8MP is enough for your Gameboy!
I got the A7R4 for wildlife/birding due to the megapixels. It's very beneficial for small birds and extreme telephoto lenses.
Are you using the 200-600 lens from Sony? How are you finding it? I've heard of so many issues
great video. thank you for this review.
I still don't understand why someone would use the crop feature and not just take the full res and crop in. What would be the advantage??
James F to improve its lens range. I.e: when you wanna shoot some wildlife, but they’re too far away and you “only” have an 100mm lens, so, you simply use the 1.5x crop feature to make the lens an 150mm!
@@callisvitor yes, but you can just take the photo without the crop mode and crop in post.
@@jamesf2697 I know, but sometimes is just better to composite your photograph while shooting instead of in post, at least thats what some Photographers think.
Late to the party James, but the main benefit is the reduced file size!
Hello you keep changing your mind on what to say an whats better. Its very easy 61mp over a lower 20 or 24 means resolution ....in English it means a cleaner clearer an more colorful pictoure....PEORED so if you want slower an lower mp many cameras that are less than $2000 out there......
As always, great review. Thanks,
Sony A7R4 is now $3,078 thru the holidays at B&H.
used maybe, not new
@@VanLifeTravelogue open box or return item possibly. Wish I was in a position to buy one.
I got mine for $2500 new from b&h with edu discount
@@WeddingDocumentary I just bought one for $3,900 :( With 4 year warranty and atoms ninja inferno
I'm watching this,i own a 12mp point and shoot sony cybershot
I am considering A7R4 also for wildlife but iso noise concerns me..If I use A7R4 in apsc 26mp crop mode will these images be similar to A9II images with regards to iso noise levels ?
Nope, it's still smaller pixel.
I would not call A9 ? wildlife centric. Yes, it is fast but in wildlife, you often need to crop even with a 600/4. For wildlife, I would choose A7riv every day of the week and the A9 for sports.
Thanks for this video, Sony's website doesn't let you compare the specs of the two which would have been handy. I think I'm going for the A7R IV as a hobbyist and enthusiast.
Every time I press the shutter on my a9ii it makes me smile, blown me away . Ok i have an A7R3 foe hi res stuff.
What is throughput?
I have the A7iii and that was already costly. Can't afford these two.
Thanks for the great review of the Sony cameras. I am a long time Canon user with a lot of $ invested in glass. I have been considering either the Canon EOS R or the Sony A7R4. I like many of the features of the A7R4, especially the resolution. I shoot a lot of landscapes (waterfalls) and some sports and wildlife. My big concern is my inventory of Canon glass. Would my Canon glass work okay on the A7R4 without any negative affects to resolution? Any help with my decision would be appreciated. Thanks.
Raymond5621 I don’t have the A7r4 but I do have the a7rii. The canon glass adapts pretty well. When I upgraded to full frame it took me a bit to get glass. I borrowed canon glass from friends. You will have no problem shooting landscape. The af is much slower using an adaptor and you won’t get eye af. As a hobbyist I can still get wildlife and sports but if you are shooting professionally you aren’t going to get fast enough af and will need to invest in glass. I can’t say enough about Tamron glass for Sony. It’s tack sharp and fast af. The price is right too. Good luck man!
I have an a7rii. I still use canon glass with an adapter in some cases. I mostly do landscapes and portraits where it’s perfectly fine. It worked almost perfectly shooting a whole season of a nephews football, and two seasons of midget hockey for another nephew. Autofocus was a touch slow for sports but I can’t say I missed that many good shots. I do have the advantage of knowing both games very well and I had a good sense of when and where my best shots might present themselves, so I was prepared and didn’t have to rely as much on fast autofocus and long bursts of continuous shots. Resolution was never an issue, and my canon lenses are very sharp so no worries there.
I have the Sony A7R4 and good Canon glass works well in terms of resolution with the A7R4 - I use as an adapter the MC-11. BUT: although the resolution is not an issue, the autofocus is and I mean here continuous tracking. So for BIF's an adapter based solution is not a good thing. Don't expect here too much. It works but not the reliable, sometimes you lose the focus while tracking.
Did you finally make the move to Sony?
Hi, i'm on my way to switch from Nikon to Sony... i shoot mostly Indoor Basketball (kids), horses and dogs, and also some portrait and nude art indoor and outdoor... i love also shoot videos. Wich of those cameras you think is the best one for a 'all rounder'? thx for your advice and for the very interesting contents! :)
a7r4 - more all rounder
Me thinks A73 has a frame rate good enough for moving subjects in your photography. Anything above that will be overspending
Sony must upgrade their memory slots to CF cards in their next generation. And if they beat everyone else in dynamic range and native ISO they will stay on top. More MP sensors are fine unless you cripple dynamic range and native ISO. Sony can stay on top but I guarantee Canon is working hard to compete in these areas with their next flagship mirrorless lineup. Flippy screens are cool but ill take performance and a tilt screen over crippled performance any day and twice on sunday. Canon has not opened up their RF (Nikon either with their Z mount) mount to 3rd party lens manufacturers which gives sony a default advantage right out of the gate.
I'll take the a9 over the a7rIV any day.
1 question: will be good with all other stills i don't do videos?
why am i watching this i have an a6000
Thank you for this comparison.
working overtime to buy A9 II
Great job Dude
Hi, now r5 is here and what z your thoughts about a7r4? I’m debating b/w a7r4 vs r5. The only thing I don’t like about a7r4 is the lack of touch screen, articulated screen and lack of multiple raw formats, which are all in r5 with I believe almost close to Sony in eye tracking too. But glasses for r5 ridiculously prized. Being a7s3 announced with all these features, I believe it is best in investing in a7r4 for future proof. What is your thoughts b/w these cameras? I don’t care about video features at all? Thanks in advance.
The eye AF on canon is better then the Sonys.
Is the A9 on ?
I think you would be a great Car salesman! ;-))
which AF is better?
R4
I own the A7R4, tracking is actually quite good with wild life . The problem is ISO. Most ppl like me shoot telephoto at F6.3 (400mm or above), the ISO goes all the way up to 12800 easily in a cloudy day if you want to keep the shutter speed around 1/1000s or 1/2000s. The noise on A7R4 at ISO 12800 is so terrible and the photos are barely usable. I am a landscape photographer, recently trying some bird shooting and the post editing is so painful for A7R4. Maybe I should save money for a A9II.
I did the same A7r4 and wildlife in low light is a non starter especially with the 200-600, those people who say the 60MP is good for cropping are sadly mistaken
Because I don't do Sports I'm a RIV fan
Will the New Canon EOS R5 make both these Sony cameras obsolete
Answer: More than likely
Camera of the Year for 2020
Answer: Canon EOS R5
The R5 should be $3995 from B&H this July
I literally thought of this comparison and poof you put out a video lmao
Exciting times we live in..loads of MP to play with..with speed. MP? I’ll take all of them because my clients like them.
Hi and thanks you I wish Sony would add the 7 4 S at 62 migapix but that's for the video side low light the A74 is going to be my next camera as soon as I get my corona virus Trump check if my wife duse not kill me haha no ya I want this camera I am using a6300 that I love but I need the full frame and want the 62 migapix in everyday in think this is one of the best cameras out one thing I got the a6300 and then the a6400 came out the next month I took that will not happen as the next the is coming soon JoP
A9ii no tiene perfiles eso es decepcionante
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