10 Fastest Cheap Airplanes You Can Buy For Your Family
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- These are the fastest cheap airplanes you can buy right now! Wanna go 200 knots fast? okay, cheap is relative in airplanes, especially if you wan to be the fastest... You can buy a 200 knots cruiser for under $200k that will fit your family!
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0:00 Why this list
1:21 #10 Cirrus SR22T
3:53 #9 Mooney M20M & M20K Rocket
6:31 #8 Beechcraft B60 Duke
9:18 #7 Piper Navajo
13:36 #6 Cessna 421b Golden Eagle
15:32 #5 Beechcraft Baron 58P
18:08 #4 Beechcraft King Air A/B90
20:44 #3 Cessna 340
23:49 Bonus! Lear 24
26:03 #2 Lancair IV-P
29:45 #1 Aerostar 601P
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brilliant contents thnx brother
Linds...
Is this the kinda airplane Dale jr and family crashed while trying to take of.
Really hard to listen to you. Sorry.
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"You can't fly it for $200k, but you can own it". Great sentence!
Hahaha, thanks!
totally agree, the least expensive part of owning airplanes (esp. old ones) and boats (esp. old ones) is buying them.
100% correct.
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ok if i pay for it hu you think is going to bring it to italy
Can confirm, my mother-in-law is 400 lbs.
Lmaooooo
So, C130 for family vacations?
@@markborreson said 400 not 4000 lol
😂🤣😂
@@_K_W C130 roll'in down the strip!? Airborne family gonna take a little trip....
My neighbor services cellular towers across 6 states. He uses a Mooney as his "work truck". He's taken me up a half dozen times and it's exactly like you said. No luxury, no frills, just functionality and rugged durability. And fast. It reminded me of a WW2 fighter plane. His M20 has been modified for work so there no back seats normally. Just ferry tanks and his equipment. Many of the towers out in rural areas have a strip of grass/dirt or gravel runway so he can land right at the tower. It takes off like a rocket ship.
As a professional pilot with over 8000 hours in all kinds of planes I can tell you that piston twins are the most difficult and dangerous planes to fly. One should not think of flying one without serious aircraft specific training. A safety pilot with lots of experience in your high performance twin is also a must until you get a handle on the thing.
Thanks for the info, good to know!
Don’t most ppl consider twins to be safer because they have two engines? What makes them more dangerous?
It’s easier to enter a flat spin in a piston twin ,VMC is no joke
@@TheGbelcher the above Vmc comment is the truth. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but if you lose one engine, you lose at least 80% of you ability to climb and accelerate. This can be disastrous if you lose one on takeoff.
Some piston twins have some pretty complex systems as well. The most convoluted fuel systems I encountered were on twin Cessnas. It was very easy to starve the engines of fuel and still have over an hours worth of fuel on board, if you mismanaged things.
I don't know if it was specifically a partial consequence of it being a twin, but not flying around weather and lack of experience in instrument flying was definitely the biggest share of the problem. He left from San Jose with his wife and two daughters to go to a birthday party (in Phoenix, AZ if I recall). He was over the southern San Joaquin Valley and was talking to air traffic control when he encountered low visibility. ATC was trying to encourage him to fly around the southern end of the area of low visibility, but he insisted on flying through it. He wound up disoriented and heading nearly straight down crashing into an orchard. Just to save some time, apparently, and he kills his whole family.
I know of professional pilots who say that if they encounter low visibility in their small private plane that they only use instruments to turn around and get out of a low visibility situation. Some even return to the airport and catch a commercial flight if there is no short way around the low visibility. One cannot be too careful.
One surgeon who was flying from one of the southern states into the northeast for a surgery in his own plane encountered low visibility. He tried to land at the airport, but decided to fly to another in hopes of the visibility being better at the next airport. He bounced around among a few airports in the area then decided to try the originally planned airport. By then, he was dangerously low on fuel and crashed short of the runway in the woods when the engine quit. The doctor died, and someone didn't get their surgery done that day.
My top pick as well. I remember when this thing was released. I was in love forever. There was one based in 2020 in Palmer, Alaska for awhile. I went by and checked it out every time it was out of the hanger.
very cool!
My father owned an Aerostar in the 1970's when they were still being manufactured in Santa Maria California. His was actually used by the factory from time to time as a "demonstrator." Yes, it was really fast. And yes, it was pretty noisy despite being upgraded with additional sound "proofing." It was also noisy outside and he received a "violation" from Burbank on a departure. Of the dozens of airplanes he owned during his life, the Aerostar was his absolute favorite and he flew it up into his late 70's. Sadly, he's gone now, but every time I see one of the planes, I think about him.
Love it! Thanks for sharing :)
"Jealous" such a great design
The Aerostar was a very powerful aircraft for the Civil Aviation community at that time....it was comparable to the P38 twin fighter of WW2..... Fast...very fast!!!!....
It also had great range and altitudes you could fly at. My favorite aircraft to build. I worked on #2,3,4, conversions. 🐸😉😃
what did he do for a living. airplanes are so expensive to maintain anymore.
I love coming across cool videos with even cooler families I know. I am beginning my bucket list item of “one day becoming a pilot” Blessings to you all
Thanks so much! you as well!
Honestly you had me thinking about saving up for an airplane and flight school. You got me dude. Pulling on my heart strings.
Nice Jimmy thank you for the tips, you are definitely one of the most incredible individual that explain everything in a fun and real way at the same time 🤠 ✈️ you are great.
I had the great pleasure of flying an Aerostar 601P for a short while. Just lovely to fly - as long as you had plenty of speed up. People asked me why it needed to go so fast to even turn, to which I replied, "it's got the same size wing as a Cessna 172, but thinner and carrying three times the weight". They got it!
I also had it up to 27,000' once, it would have easily gone higher but there was an inlet manifold leak on the left engine so I couldn't get full climb power from it. Max speed I ever got was 234 kts.
That's awesome! Great way to explain the need for speed.
My husband and I had a turbocharged Piper Saratoga we flew for over 30 years that we called our flying station wagon. It comfortably seats six people, has a range of 1,200 miles and cruises as fast as a twin on a single engine at 200+ knots and maintenance costs and fuel consumption were much less than a twin. So while other aircraft may have slightly better performance in one area or another none is more well rounded in terms of comfort, cabin size, weight capacity, range, speed and operating costs than a turbo charged Piper Saratoga with retractable gear.
Loved the countdown and hilarious free speech. I am not into planes but Google's algo must think I am a South American Coke runner.
Niicceee. Good rec!
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Was that the type that killed JFK, Jr and two?
@@MalachiWhite-tw7hl The reason JFK Jr. died in a plane crash was due to pilot error. Therefore it didn't matter what type of plane he was flying in.
The fact that the Navajo can handle a 5.5 psi pressure differential on the airframe makes me want it more, a lot of engineering and craftsmanship must have gone into the fuselage design.
they giggled on the phone when you asked about the jet maintenance cost , because it's like the price on a top end Rolls Royce , "if you have to ask , you can't afford it "
I own a 601-P. It is pretty much all you described except with one note, Aerostar Corp is still in business and they have pretty much engineered all those earlier bugs you mentioned out of the airplane. I can also beat the airlines to all my destinations at any point in the USA.
nice! and yes, that's why it's my number 1 on the list!
A retired Marine owned one at back in early 90s. He flew non-stop from CA to AL (5M0 )in 6 hrs. @ FL with 90+ kts. tail wind but still. Things that go fast can kill you quicker as well. Fantastic airplane but the skill required to fly safely is beyond most.
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Thanks for this. I can finally figure out the difference between a Navaho and a Ted Smith/Piper Aerostar at the ramp! I never realized the aerostar wing was mounted midway at the fuselage! Wow.
My father-in-law flew an Aerostar back in the late 70's early 80's... I flew right seat a few times. One time we were fortunate enough to see an SR-71 climbing out of Beale as we were coming into the Sacramento area (headed to Nut Tree). Thanks for the memories!
I fly a 77 Aerostar 601p, the thing handles amazing. Very sensitive steering and both engines rotate to the left so you have to be careful taking off
very cool!
Great video. You reaffirm what has been going around in my head already.
The Cessna 340 is my long-term goal to haul the family around europe.
Nice!! What do you fly now?
@@therealjimmysworld I Just started, still in ground training. My flight school has Cirrus SR20 and 22s.
As I said, the 340 is my longshot 🙈. But I know me, and that means flying a 172 on sunny weekends will get me bored very fast.
That's great!! stay with it!
@@therealjimmysworld Thanks, I will. Your videos help a ton. It was RUclipsrs like yourself that made me actually go for it. GA is not as common in Europe and most people still either think it's something for the super-rich only or that it's super hard and dangerous.
Nice!! Glad to encourage you on this journey! well worth the investment of time and money.
While these aircraft are currently unattainable to me, I found your comparison to cars invaluable! Love it.
I have to agree with the Aerostar, I flew night freight in one for about 1000 hours. Of all the twins I flew this was at the top of cool factor. One twin you should have included is the Aero Commander, another airplane with loads of cool factor. But being of the very old school and money not a factor I would own a Beech 18! That was a fun airplane to fly and it had to be flown! But now in retirement I'm happy with my little Piper Twin Comanche.
I’ve flown in my dads friends Lancair 2 that he built and it was a blast! My dad had built a Glasair 2RG so they flew together a lot. The Lancair was squirrelly on landings though. The Glasair that Dad built after he built a Long-Eze and sold it, was smooth and fast too! It was a gorgeous plane. We had to sell it when Dad passed away 10 yrs ago and it was hard watching the new owner fly off.
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Lancair looks like a great machine on paper, I got really close to buying one but in northern Europe it's tricky as you can't get IFR or KIC for experimental class which really limits what you can do with it.
That Cessna 340 in my opinion is the most sensible option. It would be a great plane for your for years Jimmy! Next jet step up would be no factor then. Nice channel btw!
I love how you used "sensible" in this conversation! hahaha and yes, I agree!
I agree as well and don't see how 2 or 3 out climbed it. I used the fly a Gray Lear 24 like that one for a Military contractor and yes, it is a beast.
Hey Jimmy!
You and your videos are amazing and great fun to watch! I have learned so much about airplanes because of you and really love your style and how easy you make it to understand! 😎
We’ve had a b55 for a few years with the 300hp engines. We get it up to 202 around 9500 everytime we fly it. Great plane. Great video 👍
A good friend of mine owned an Aerostar 601 (not the P). Got a lot of right seat time in that aircraft. One of the quirks not mentioned was the hot start. Easy to flood the engine. Turn on the pumps, crack the power levers a little and then off. Crank the engine with no power and as soon as it fires add power. Great airplane to fly. Light touch on the controls and it moves. It is slippery and tough to slow down when descending. I can we used to keep up with the commercial aircraft on approach.
that's a great share! Thanks!
Great video! I’m trying to figure out the next plane as well. Haven’t given much thought to twins due maintenance, but that useful load sure would be awesome.
I agree, it's a tough pill to swallow. spend up on the purchase of a bigger single (maybe turbo prop) and have lower operating costs or spend much less and have higher operating costs and potentially more down time...
My first plane was a Piper PA32-300, bit slow but carry lots…. First flight Toronto Canada to Daytona Beach and Back, next trip Cancun and back, did I say a bit slow… Second and current plane Piper PA30 twin Commence with all the speed mods and full STOL, fast 4 seater 172 knots true, best plane ever at 18 GPH, hard to fit my bike in though….. better for all around then a Aerostar.
@@therealjimmysworld What about the Diamond DA42 that sips like a single or DA50RG single?
@@thisismagacountry1318 That is one really expensive plane. 400k minimum to get something decent.
I have loved airplanes since I was a kid and this video is very cool. My tastes might differ slightly but no one can argue with your factual approach to owing an expensive airplane on a (let's face it) champagne budget.
I flew a majority of planes on your list and you nailed it! The Aerostar was my favorite! Even completed my ATP type rating in the 601 (back in the day). For the cost vs speed, this was the preferred plane by my customers. Word to the wise, this is NOT a forgiving airplane. You have to run the numbers for wt n balance (CG) and t/o length if you ever have concerns.
Very cool!!! and yes, that's what I've heard from everyone who's flown one. I'm going to step into that after a few more hours and maybe a 310 or Seneca/Aztec for awhile first... lol
Heck yeah Jimmy! First thing I thought when I saw your video title was "I just flew 200kts, at 7gph, in my lancair 235 which I bought for $45k".
Definitely looking at the IV, if I ever need a four place.
how long have you had the 235? I'd love to learn more about the 2 seat versions. What about spin characteristics? and flying in imc?
@@therealjimmysworld I bought it in October, took until about Thanksgiving before I was comfortable flying it solo. ruclips.net/video/FLQXCJbIF0Q/видео.html
But I'm loving it, just completed my first round trip KANE KSFF and back last week. I'd be happy to talk your ear off with my impressions on the pro vs con of 235, 320, etc. Both my direct observations and what I've garnered from internet research.
@@therealjimmysworld Previous owner took it up in IMC and even showed me some pictures of how much icing it could handle. I just got my IFR ticket in April so am waiting until I've completed a panel upgrade before getting it current for IFR and trying myself.
So far I have never tested it in spins, but so far I've never had an instructor willing to show me spins in ANY plane. I was pleased by how tame the stall is in the 235. Given what I'd heard before buying I thought it was practically an invitation to death, but it actually stalls fairly nicely and can even do a reasonable "short wing piper" style "mush" for rapid descent slow flight.
That's good to hear. I imagine the cg is for forward than the IV, which would help for stalls/spins. Good looking airplane! $45,000? really?! Great deal!
You can’t find an instructor with a functional pair of testicles to demonstrate spins in a C-152? That’s pitiful.
Yep I love the Aerostar. Flew 700 hrs in a 600 model. Really 220-15 kts on 65-70% power. I love the handling. Light on the controls reminds me of the Beech Model 35 v tails. The Baron E55 is very nice to fly too.
Very nice!
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It wasn't mentioned whether it was the turbo version or not, but the std Mooney M20 is only good for around 190 kts. Presumably it was a turbo, and operating a bit higher than the naturally aspirated version I flew.
Lancair IV-P is the lust machine! Yes, a little tricky to handle but OMG does it get up and go!!
Great video.
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Ditto on the Aerostar, ditto on the Lancair. Also agree on comments regarding twin proficiency. Personally I'd find it tough making a choice at all without owning all ten planes! Great video, thanks Jimmy.
Love the Mooney and it forward canted tail….stout, string and fast
definitely!
love these recommendations.. thank you for setting the bar higher than most with great information.
Hey Jimmy ! Thanks for this very nice video ! 😃
You should take a look onto the Beech 56TC/A56TC (Duke’s engines mounted on a BE55 Baron airframe), absolute beast ! Pretty rare to find.. but this thing is so fast and powerful.
Flew a Mooney back in the late 70's and it was a wonderful plane to fly! I'm with ya on the Aerostar too. Gt to fly in one and it was COOL!!! Talk about a race horse, WOW!!! That said, it was enormously expensive to maintain!!!
for real!
Lots of fun watching your video. I’ve flown most of your list. The Aerostar was great when flown by the “professional pilots” when mgt. flew it they would always break it. Never flew a P-Navajo but lots of time in a Chieftain. I have a friend with a Duke, love that airplane, says he’s going to take me up, it’s always broken. 421 I think someone already said the geared engines are troublesome. King air, what can you say it’s a King air. The Lear was originally a Swedish fighter the Bill Lead redesigned. One last thing. Please stop telling piston and turboprop guys to fly at Flight Levels! At least not above FL240! Got stuck behind a Cessna Conquest in a 727. Talk about burning gas. Finally convinced him to decend by pointing out yeah he, with his one passenger were saving his gas at FL 330. But I with 174 pax was burning a ton. He went down to FL260. I went past at Mach .85.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! that's awesome!
Hi Mate.
Love your content.
You might want to check your numbers on the Piper Navajo.
Standard Pa31 was 310hp per side, 180 kits, and 140L/hr.
The longer Chieftain was 10 seats, 350hp per side.
Much more efficient per seat/mile than the Baron. Quiet, smooth and the isle up the middle takes the Navajo to another level.
Couldn't agree more this thing is totally bogus in some respects
Jimmy I think you could come up with a second channel doing reviews just as you did here this is one of the best videos I've seen yet.
I would take my Miller conversion twin comanche at 175kn cruise, 18 gph cruise burn, and 500 fpm single engine climb on hot humid Mississippi summer day all day long. Plus 104 useable gallons with IFR reserve. Up to 6 seats. No CG shift with fuel burn.
yep, that is a great setup!
S/E though is a bit concerning.
That is a boss plane.
You left off one of my favorites!!!! Plenty of room, not bad on fuel burn. The Shrike Commander! For more fuel burn, try the 690 Turbo-Commander :-) A Shrike can be purchased under $200,000.00 in a fly-away condition.
Great suggestion!
Yeah and the looks are AWESOME!!!
Ya gotta love that right on the ground cockpit!!!
Very nice video, thanks. I have looked at many of your list over the years, flown them, and, in the end, always went back to the Aerostar. I've owned 2 (601P and 602) and never regretted a minute. Yes, they have a personality, but I can tell you, you have to treat them with the respect they deserve, or they will make you pay. I certainly paid my share to support the aviation mechanics of the USA. It's a sad day when one gets too old to fly these magnificent beasts.
Aerostar 601 is the sweetest flying twin ever! Sweetest landing, sweetest on one engine, etc.!
I've been pondering the light twin question for some time now and if I were going to get a light twin for personal use I think that it would be a Piper Seneca even though it's slower, as it's a lot more forgiving in an engine-out Vmc situation that some of the other twins mentioned.
Im a Piper guy so good candidate for sure. VMC is kind of a worst case scenario and historically the result of a string of bad decisions when something goes wrong, not entirely sure choice of aircraft plays into that. But if you're looking to risk manage unforseen single engine flight in a twin based on aircraft capabilities, start with seeking out aircraft that can have a CR engine on the right, then you don't have a critical engine to factor. Second wing type, forgivability... As an example, lots of schools do multi ratings in Seminoles, great plane but CR right engine and red and blue line about a mile apart! After that step into a Twin Commanche or an Aerostar and you'll know what I mean. As Mitchel points out, you're far more likely to have an engine problem from fuel issues than any thing else, fuel management can be a handful in some ships, great you may have hours of endurance but where is it? Quite the math quiz to be counting consumption by tank using your FF or engine monitor... and where your tanks really full? Contamination.. I'm religious about straining fuel but recently had one injector clog completely and the rest of the supply reduce power to Idle. What ever twin you chose, or any aircraft for that matter, know its limitations and yours and plan accordingly. And.. fly alot!!
Jimmy, the Aerostar 600 is the best. 205 kts at 25 gph. No high maintenance issues. Built with the same quality as the Aero Commander, also designed by Ted Smith.
If I was going to get one, that would be it!
Thanks, such an entertaining video! Very informative too because it's from a buyer's pov.
I worked at Piper when they bought the Aerostar and moved it to Vero Beach.
I flew on one the last day I worked there.
It is an awesome airplane.
very cool!
“Two favorite kids” LOL. Cracked me up.
Another option is to wait for your kids to grow up, and buy a 2 seater. 🤣
That's the 10 year plan! hahaha
@@therealjimmysworld It's kinda funny, because after I moved out is when my dad bought a 4 seater... I'm still confused.
Such high quality videos and you deserve a much higher following!
I appreciate that!
We had a Mooney M20J I believe- we used it to visit family in France and moved house from England to Scotland with it! Was an American import as it has a N- reg
I still remember it to this day! N101UK she had a red nose cone and was amazing 🤩
Love your Site. Technical but fun. And very informative. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much!
I just discovered you, Jimmy. I think you are the Scotty Kilmer of the aviation channels on RUclips. Thx for the work you put into this one.
Thanks! hahaha
Please god don’t compare him to Scotty…
More like Hoovies Garage
Great report, great channel!
“You can bring your second wife”…that busted my gut 😂
Some dollar values on operating cost would have been great.
Not a pilot, unfortunately, but love aviation and this information is appreciated. Thank you.
Thanks so much!
Thanks for this, might consider adding to the fleet👍
The 421 is the biggest hangar queen I have ever been around! The gearboxes on the engine on a nightmare if the pilots are not train right on how to fly it.
I have heard that about geared engines. What's the secret to them no breaking?
@@therealjimmysworld it’s easy, engine management. don’t let the props drive the engines. Pull the engine back bit by bit and same for the props.
so, what I'm hearing you say is, fly it like you own it... not a rental.
@@therealjimmysworld Exactly, no going mental cause she’s a rental!
Hangar queen for sure.
Your delivery is hilarious, good sir. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks so much! Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
I agree with your list. I have test flown all of the planes except the Lancair IVP, and I have really tried to get one of those. The Aerostar remains my favorite. Didn't have the money to buy one.
I used to work as a ramp agent for a small family airline in Kenai, Alaska. We operated Piper PA-31 T-1040 series aircraft. These were the Navaho Chieftan with twin 650hp Pratt & Whitney PT-6 turbo prop engines. We operated 9 of these aircraft between Anchorage and Kodiak, Alaska. These aircraft burned 50 gph for a 250 knot cruise. Piper only built 31 of this model. One of the pilots was also a flight instructor and he taught me to fly them it was a real blast. We once flew from Anchorage to Kenai in just under 14 minutes from engine start to engine shut down. From that day on we called tail number N304SC the "Moose River Bullett". Sadly the airline shut down in 1998. I think that only 1 or 2 T1040s are still airworthy. Most have been sold for parts in the early 2000's.
very cool!
King Air! Hands down! I love that plane.
you and me both!
Great video and I loved your thoughts. However, I am trying to figure out your ranking system. It seems to me that 9 and 10 are probably the most realistic planes to own that can meet the requirements. Number 1 you laughed at the safety record..... If it is just pure coolness of the planes I get the rankings though. Again great video.
Thanks so much! These are in order from my personal opinion on the most airplane per dollar. Kinda my best value list. and the Aerostar was simply too sexy not to put in 1st place! hahaha
Love your channel Jimmy
Keepin it real in NC 🇺🇸
Nice to hear good things about Cirrus. I worked there a few months in 2008 in Duluth, MN.
If you buy an Aerostar, then you are the MAN, Jimmy!
the lonely and broke man.... hahahaha
@@therealjimmysworld So, which one are you gonna buy? I thought the Aerostar was your #1 pick.
@@hansadler6716 so did I
There’s 3 in Florida for him to look at!
Still trying to find the "right" deal. If you know of an Aerostar 600 or Lancair IV-P or Cessna 340 w/Ram let me know. Not on Trade-a-plane, barnstormers or controller. I troll those all the time... lol. I'm looking for that off market pocket deal.
I just spent 15 hours in a minivan 2 days ago driving back from Florida, with twin 3 year olds and 2 teenagers, and I was thinking about that Jimmy guy with his 6 seater airplane pretty much the whole time. So I just stopped by to say shut up. Thanks for listening.
LMAO.....been there in what seems like a 100 years ago ;}>
For real! I wish that audio panel was in my minivan! with noise cancelling headsets.... ahhhhh, that would be a dream....
I don't think Jimmy's plane has A/C, though. I could be wrong?
no a/c :(. It does have an overhead fan that works really well though...
Look into a Cherokee 6 or Saratoga also. Slower but can carry a lot
That Cirrus is a beauty and I dig that Golden Eagle a lot.
Beechcraft Baron is solid too considering they still make it.
Thanks Jimmy for this great video! By the way you have a TV or Radio voice! It’s perfect for that!
hahahaha, thanks!! Maybe I'll finally catch my big break into showbiz! hahahaha
I'm loving this guy, big 'married with kids' Al Bundy energy. Subscribed.
ahahahaha, I did watch that show quite a bit.. lol
I used to fly an (unpressurized) Aerostar around 1980 with a cancelled check route. Loved that airplane.
Had its quirks with: a fuel system that originally came with too few fuel gauges; A standby hydraulic pump that needed to be armed in case of right engine failure (so you could raise the gear), no cowl flaps so the need to be careful not to cool the engines too quickly, funky electric nose wheel steering switch pin and gasoline heater. But it was a rocket.
very cool!
That joke about the mother in law made me subscribe.
Thank you for your content jimmy!!
3:20 "You and your beautiful wife can take your 2 favorite kids " LOL !!! Love you Jimmy !
hahaha, glad you liked it!
Hahaha!!! That one definitely hit home
210 might fit the bill too. You have a fun list going. I enjoyed it. When does the Lear show up at your hanger?
210's are great! I have a friend that has one. really likes it. Lear..... yeah......
The C210 doesn’t quite make the 200 knot mark, although the turbo and pressurized versions get very close. They’re also not cheap, by any means. You would be hard pressed to find one in decent shape under $200k. Their price is just a function of how desirable they still are.
I got to fly the Lancair IVP prototype at a fly-in at Roseburg, Oregon about 1992. At the time, Lancair was in the process of moving their factory from California to Redmond, Oregon, and I was considering going to work for them. I decided to go into the Army instead and became a UH-60 Blackhawk pilot. I never forgot the thrill of flying that airplane with the Lancair demo pilot who brought it to show it off. We did a pass down the runway about 10 feet and 240 knots. It was a real thrill to move the side-stick controls. My dad recorded our pass with the old VHS camcorder and it sounded like a mini P51. I still dream about that aircraft. It was the same one they used to set all of those speed records.
I've flown both Navajos and Chieftains on commuter routes in the NE. They are amazing easy to fly and can navigate a ton of airports.
New here Jimmy - I truly love your "family - centric" vocabulary & manner of speaking. When you speak I feel like I am back in the fifties :-) I do not fly but I like airplanes , so that's why I am here. Thumbs up !
Wow, thank you
Excellent video. FYI, I just recently got a Lancair IV. The published max cruise speed at FL240 is stupid high at 297 KTAS with the twin turbo TSIO550 350 hp engine. Normal cruise is around 270 so it's still supposedly faster than the Aerostar. It is pretty fast and mine isn't pressurized to I haven't been up to the flight levels yet, but it is all the things you mentioned.
I'm so jealous!!! You have to keep me posted with your flights and what you experience for "real" data. Also, I've heard that winglets and vg's help with the stall/spin issue. Do you have any data on that?
@@therealjimmysworld I do have the winglets. Haven't heard of using VG's, but have heard that stall strips on the leading edge help prevent the wing drop in a stall. I have not stalled it, but it fly's good down to 85KIAS. I won't be flying again for a couple of months due to job.
Good to know. I love the look of those with winglets. maybe that's what I've heard. For some reason I thought it was VG's. There's a great article about a guy stalling it at 9,000 ft with the winglets and it took until 4,000ft to recover..... sheesh..... www.kitplanes.com/taming-the-lancair-iv/
I fly cirrus sr22t as a rental, love it but useful load is not great and I was looking at the lancair IV and I’m very curious as to if it is as scary as it’s reputation? It’s hard to get 200 knots constantly mostly 175 knots.
Good to know. Also, check out that article above. That is with the winglets and other mods to control the spin. yes, the straight wing, basic IV's are spin machines (from what I've studied)
Great job. We appreciate the effort and detail.
Love it. Thanks for including the 601P.
If you are going to do experimental, you need to check out the Velocity, one of Burt Rutan's designs. Fast, safe, sips fuel compared to some of these others and reasonably priced.
Speaking of Burt, his best of not least popular design was the Beechcraft Starship.
And it still looks futuristic after 20 years .unbelievable performance on the small engines it can use
Dude, you have no idea how expensive the 340 will be. It’s a solid $800/hour plane. The useful load is limited as well. Love the plane, but they are not “reasonable”. The 421 is even worse.
don't go putting "reason" and airplane in the same conversation.... that's like "economy".... hahahaha
Bobby Allison the Nascar Driver/ owner had one of your #1 plains with a stc for turbo prop it was crazy fast and he used it to Hall and extra enegen for his Nascar to the races. I got to fly in it once and it was crazy fast.
heck yes!!!
Thanks for sharing you thoughtful top10 fastest and cheapest family planes. Liked your crazy red hair.
Nice list. Regarding the B90: the arm from the wing chord to the rudder is much shorter than the B200. This makes for some attention grabbing crosswind landings as rudder authority is diminished with the shorter arm. Like the simplicity of the PT6 as opposed to an internal combustion engine. Singles are cheaper to operate but you have fire and fuel just in front of your feet. As another commentor said: light twins are the most dangerous class of planes out there. The more powerful the more dangerous (reference the B350 crash in Texas). If you lose an engine at V1 you better have practiced this in a sim recently so you don’t let that good engine flip you and kill you. Smart wealthy entrepreneurs still kill themselves in this class of aircraft.
Thanks for the info, good to know!
I know this is a family channel, so I'll keep it clean. I was a summertime FBO 100LL gas pumper for 4 summers during college. 1976-1979. Your hear the scuttle but. The mechanics all have their opinions and pet peeves. I learned a lot by watching other people pre-flight and fly their airplanes. Most people were decent pilots. I usually pulled their airplane out of an old hanger made of 2x4s and corrugated metal. I'd fuel them as requested, check and fill the oil. 90% would do a walk around to check my work and the airplane. Unfortunately, many, who may not have flown the plane for months would just hop in with passengers. Fire up and go. I could have knocked the tail off of the airplane or seriously damaged a wing or the tail empennage. And been frantically trying to find them. They would never have known until they were trying to rotate for liftoff when it was too late.
About the Duke. Nobody on our airport had a Duke. To my college aged brain, and the mechanics. Taxiing up in a Duke and shutting it down in front of the hanger was like "pulling it out of your trousers and flopping it down on the pavement". Seriously. It was somebody demonstrating they were the Big Long D**k at the airport. 2 of them were flown in during the summer by the owners of Traveling Carnivals. Late 1970s? Maybe a side business? Pure speculation on my part? I never fueled a Duke for someone who didn't pay CASH. Lots of CASH to fill up a Duke. No receipts were ever requested.
hahahaha, thank you for keeping it PG. I imagine all those cash payments were in singles.... hahahahaha. #Lambolifestyle
@@therealjimmysworld We didn't even have a cash box in the truck. We did have the old credit card machine where you slid it back forth over the card and made "carbon copies" and had the customer sign one. The cash was multiple rubber banded rolls of all low denominations. $20 Max. At least 2" in diameter. Maybe he worked at Chippendale's? I'm not judgmental. They would sling the bills off while counting, just like in the movies. I would walk into my bosses office with my jeans pockets stuffed full of this cash and dump it out on his desk. He'd give me a frown, a wink and a nod. My summer job slinging 100LL for him got me through college. I owe him a lot for that. Wayne Reavis, Medford OR.
and then go wash your hands very thoroughly!! hahahaha
@@therealjimmysworld Buying lots of 100LL for "Cash" was probably one method of "laundering" the money. You know, to keep it clean for everyone.
Carnival operators even (County) fair food vendors make HUGE money. $1M a yr. Cash. Its why its nearly impossible to get in. Anyway, One family had a vendor biz at all the County fairs, so they traveled. Had 5th wheels. A dtr married & the new son in law didnt want to work for his money. He killed & stole the boxes of cash they hid in their trailers. (He did get caught). Not with lots of cash all are drug dealers. Some just make a lot & dont want to report it.
Very cool and informative video of aircraft! I grew up😮 going to the airport just to look at aircraft and decide which aircraft that we were looking at!
Thanks, Jimmy! The C90 was a great pick, if you want to leave your landing gear on the runway the first time you take off! 16K landings!
The aerostar is the coolest twin ever. Considering most pilots just use two seats ,,, what about the glasair lll.
very cool!
Jimmy
The fuel burn per cylinder is approximately,2.5 gallons per hour multiply by 8 cylinders equal total fuel burn at 75 % power to be approximately 20 gallons per hour..
A Cherokee 6 total burn is approximately 15 to 16 gallon per hour.
The benefits of having a senica Is the second engine. Remember that you can not put a price on your family
Another benefits you get your retractable gear, multi-engine endorsement too. If you choose the turbo version, density altitude will be easier to manage
Good info. Thanks for sharing. I can tell you really like the Seneca. Good airplane.
I REALLY enjoyed this video and your humor was on point!!
Your Roscoe P. Coltrain laugh is over the top awesome!
I loved this video.
The Cesena 340 taking off footage is destin florida. Nice seeing my area on the you tubes
very cool!
Just saw your number 1 choice.... I flew them for about 2000 hours, you didn't mention the flying qualities. If you have not yet flown one you are in for an extremely pleasant surprise. You will also find as you dig deeper into the Aerostar, the accident rate is not due to the aircraft, its mostly due to pilots not giving it the respect it deserves, or not maintaining the proper proficiency. It does have some quirks, but they are not game changers, just have to pay attention. Things like don't cycle the gear with any side load on the airframe, don't fill up the tanks and let the plane sit on the ramp. Most important... Understand the fuel system! Like any multi-engine light twin, be proficient in your engine out procedures, there is nothing about the Aerostar that is unusual in SE operations but, it is not a trainer. Interesting tidbit, the tail horizontal and vertical control surfaces are interchangeable. Not that it would come up, but interesting.
Everyone I have spoken to that has flown them said the same thing. I am sooooo tempted to get one, but both of my IA connections said they would disown me if I did... :(
Jimmy, explain to your mechanics that you're buying the 600 not the 601P. A world of difference in maintenance cost. The 600 has 2000 hour TBO engines and none of the headaches associated with turbos and pressurisation. If you don’t operate from high altitude airports then you don't need the P model. Don't get me wrong the 700 is great but the 600 will give you the biggest bang for the buck. As Harley said most accidents are the result of pilot error (not understanding the Aerostar). Especially not doing any high bank turns when operating in dual crossfeed fuel management.
Like the Aero Commander and other designs by engineering design legend Ted Smith, the Aerostar has excellent handling, tank-like structural members and gobs of speed. Very underrated.
I have a 702P from Aerostar and if you take care of the aircraft and treat it as if was a million dollar machine, it will take care of you and wont cost any more than a 400 series Cessna to maintain. Too many people neglect them then sell them. The people who thing they got a great deal actually got an expensive project for the first couple annuals. Check out more info at ruclips.net/channel/UCppGmts0I59uEcb5QQUd2uw
great channel! beautiful 702P. Watching your videos now.
Im thoroughly enjoyed your video and I commend your commentary. Great job!
Thanks so much!
I like your comparisons to cars, makes it easier for the layperson to understand
Your video showed a PA-31-350 Navajo Chieftan, (350hp), and unpressurised, not a PA-31P, (425hp) which is the pressurised version of the short Navajo. And they are considered "cabin class".
That's because the only images of a PA-31P I could find were in a shop getting fixed.... hahahahaha
The performance spec you stated must be for the P Navajo. Fuel numbers for a 350 or 325 hp Navajo will be much less. I might add the counter rotating props on a Chieftain or a C/R make them a sweet handler overall and especially one one engine (no critical engine). I recall something like 200 kts. TAS on no more than 45 GPH in a Chieftain in the low teens.
@@therealjimmysworld They are a maintenance disaster quite unlike the Nav and the Chieftain which are much better over the Cessnas. Especially the 421 with the geared engines.
The moment you say "geared engines" I think Hangar Queen . The PA-31P I knew had 4 engine failures in 500 hours; The B-60 a friend owned presented him with a piston thru the cowling criuising at 20,000 feet. Both bought Superstars.
The rubber bushing landing gear is also used by the Beechcraft Musketeer, Sundowner, Sport and Sierra. Generally zero maintenance until you need to replace the entire set about once every ten years.
that's a cool fact!
When I flew with my Dad and others in a Mooney. There were always 2 things to consider. They would "float forever" in ground effect upon landing. You always had to keep approach spoeds under control and be mindful of runway length. 5 knots too fast on a high altitude short runway was bad news. And when you touched down your were landing on a stack of slightly softer than normal hockey pucks. Usually, you didn't notice because you were on the binders and pulling up the flaps ASAP. Milking up the flaps while floating in ground effect was very effective. My FBO was a dealer when the 201 and 231 were produced. There were several runway overruns with the 201s. You needed to recognize it quickly and a go around was no problem. By the time the 231 came out most pilots had adjusted. That's why many Mooneys today have spoilers/speed brakes to kill speed on the approach and floating in ground effect if you are too fast. Controlling your approach speed and milking the flaps up slowly worked great and was a lot cheaper. The second thing is that the average American was skinny in the late 1970s. Watch some movies from that time ( like "Caddy Shack") and look at the extras. For the Average American Male in 2021, the Mooneys are a 3 place airplane. For weight and shoulder room. Although it looks like TPTB are setting up the food production and distribution system to starve a lot of people around the world. After they made us all obese with GMOs and estrogenic chemicals. I could stand to lose 50# but that's my Cancer (which they probably gave us all) calorie reserve. My AUX tank, so to speak. C'est la Vie. Oh, I forgot to mention, don't give any of your children any of the CV shots. The vax spike protein's highest concentrations are in the Ovaries and 2nd in the bone marrow. It has been determined that it is cytotoxic. That means it kills the cells it attaches to. And then may travel to other cells, infect them and kill them. Hence the blot clotting abnormalities you are not being told about. For pregnant women, the spontaneous abortion rate is sky high. So, unless your are a star of my 600 pound life? If you are under 45-50 I would absolutely avoid the shots. And avoid people who have had the shots. They may be Super Spreaders? IDK? I do have an MD from USC 1984. Dr Drew's class. We sang in a Barbershop group together. Anyways. I became an anesthesiologist. About as far from this CV crap as you can get. But that doesn't make me stupid. Why have ~40% of the CDC and NIH employees NOT taken the shot? Think! Please! Why are they so spazzed out about "everybody" getting the vaccine? I am not vaccine "hesitant". I am not getting any of the current GD shots. I am NOT hesitant. That wording pisses me off. I'll chop off the hand of anyone who tries to inject me or any family member. My hatchet is sharpened. Sorry for getting sidetracked. But I get nothing from any pharmaceutical company or store. I feel it's a moral and ethical obligation to pass on what I know. And have suspected since the beginning. Everything humans have EVER accomplished was due to a conspiracy. Everything. There may be a few exceptions whose life's were ruined, but basically every accomplishment of human beings is a conspiracy. One man probably couldn't bring down a Mastodon or Wooly Mammoth. A conspiracy amongst men could make the human species survive another harsh winter. Don't blow this off. That IS a CONSPIRACY to kill a Wooly Mammoth. Sorry. It's late. Don't get vaccinated if you're young and ever want kids. I've done my moral duty. You have been warned.
Please comment if you want some real facts about this CV debacle. I'll post a list of people who really are the experts. Most people can't handle the cognitive dissonance. About 50+% of the population. If that's you? Go with God.
hahahaha, that took a sharp left turn! That's what I like about you @ArchAngel M260! You are hereby inducted into Jimmy's World foil hat club! Love it!
And the first several thousand Cirrus nose gear before they switched to oleo struts
Man, the way you explain things, you made one not to be tired listening.
I worked on the first 3 Conversions from the 601 to the 601P aircraft. They were using the in stock airframe and wings. After Ted R. Smith bought it back from Piper. 1972-74. The shop was in Santa Maria,CA. USA.
very cool!