These brought back memories of my youth. I worked for my Aunt and Uncles jet charter service out of SLC back in the 80s. Rode in and flew many on this list. I flew every Friday and Saturday night for a few months from SLC to PUB and back in a Lear 35. Great memories.
@@BlackDim100 hahaha ;) I wouldn't ask any questions either lol. Get the paycheck and keep it moving. Can anyone become a pilot? Or did you go to college for it? And how long it took you before you were able to fly private jets?
That’s for boats silly, come on..anyone you buys one either has a use for it,knows they can write off everything at tax time,and should know the costs going in, and if you’ve got enough money and you fly a lot for work,why not enjoy private flights, and say screw dealing with 1000’s of ppl in the airport,and covid..a new car costs 80-250k today, yeah ppl with low incomes buy cars in the 40k range, but ppl with money have 4-5 cars costing as much as some of these planes,so spending money on fuel to fly where ever and when ever especially if you’re a real pilot,a good one, lol it’s called freedom..heck there’s ppl with a few hundred cars, so buying or collecting even planes isn’t anything but a joy for some..
With that attitude, I guess you’d say the same thing for a WWll fighter plane too..don’t you get it, some ppl just enjoy flying,and can afford to spend 1/4 or 1/2 a million on a plane,just fly around to have fun,make short trips, and go on vacation without dealing with the rest of the public…plus again, your comment is for boats, :)
@@JohnDoe-yi9rm Agreed. I should have stated aesthetically perfect. It is a gorgeous plane. I flew in one and it is tight, but fun as all hell. Like fighter jet fun. Acceleration and climb I'll never forget.
A little heads up from the mechanical side. Many of those aircraft have mandatory inspections (Airworthiness Directives) on the engines that are due. That puts them in a category we call B-E-R, beyond economic repair. Meaning that it would cost more to fix, repair, or inspect the plane that it is worth. That would be why they are so cheap.
You can do FAA re-certifications to allow the HondaJet engines to be installed which are quieter, more powerful and lighter than MANY of these jet engines AND they still fit in the nacelles! FAA engine re-deployment and re-certification costs are about $50,000 for each aircraft. This will save you lots of fuel and maintenance money even with the FAA engine remount inspection/re-certification costs! Business Jet Re-engining is an an upcoming industry and the HondaJet engines seem to be the best ones to use nacelle-mount-size, fuel costs and maintenance-wise! v
@@StarGateSG7 Re-engineing isn't a new thing. But you end up with an airplane with no warranty that is a bastard with no complete manuals and no training simulators and no pre-trained pilots. And the rest of the airplane is still old and a maintenance hog. By the time you buy a cheap POS jet, re-engine it, repaint it, upgrade the interior and put in some new radios, you might as well have gotten a better airplane to start with. There's no cheap way to do it.
Flying the learjet 35A on Medevac missions around Europe. This aircraft is an absolute beast. Great if you've got above average SA and instrument skills. 1 FMS all analogue instruments, 6900fpm rate of climb and 45,000 operating ceiling, no altitude preselect or auto throttle/thrust. It will make you work and you'll love it
I was working in a FBO in the mid 1970’s. The working for flying time. A Lear 24 Corporate Jet arrived. The executives on the flight got sick. Yes real bad. So I had to clean the inside of the Lear. Seats and carpet unbolted. Easy and I cleaned it in the hanger. About a week later on a Sunday the pilots did a flight check. I was offered the right seat. We did a maximum performance takeoff. OMG. Also was able to fly for a bit. They sign off on my flight log book. What a memory.
Worst turbulence on the planet: Banning Pass into Palm Springs. Pax hit heads on ceiling, F/O almost knocked himself out. Landed - waited until pax gone and kissed the ground. FBO dude invites us over to other airplane (Citation) where lav busted loose, rolled through cabin spraying blue juice everywhere...ok, we did better than them!
I think it’s more about the fact it’s golden hour so the lighting is exactly as you’d want it. The sun is just in the right place you only get 2 chances a day for just under an hour usually. Gorgeous plane though 👌
@@andrewj9831 you would need to pay for the IA and parts. You'd really want to check the engine hours and go over the logbook to see they didn't miss anything previously and all the service bulletins and directives. The engines are the most costly. It helps to go in with four or five pilots and share the aircraft flight time and costs.
@@bernieweber4663 I work in aviation MX and have my IA, overseeing MX for part 91and 135 operations for a major operator. There is a reason why the plane is for sale at $75K, and from my exp, it's because it's coming due or past due for heavy checks.
I did fly the Lear 35 and 31. They are still my favorite planes i have ever flown. The 31 has the better performance due to less weight but the 35 has the more range you need for some missions
While learning to fly, many years ago, I was sitting in my 172 at midfield to a 10,000 foot runway waiting for an Israeli Westwind to land. At the last moment the westwind decided on a go around and his wheels came up and the power came up and that pilot held it in ground effect for the entire 10,000 feet. He went by me at about 25 feet off the deck. It was a truly beautiful sight.
I have 1200 hours in Westwinds in Australia. Great aeroplane, super nice handling. So nice there's no stick shaker or stall warning - pull back, get a littel aerodynamic buffet, then a gently nose drop and fly away. You can do 360 knots to a ten mile final with a 90º intercept on the ILS at 10 miles and still cross the fence at Vref if you really want to (hitting speed brakes and all of the flap and gear limits to slow down.)
This, as a professional voiceover artist, can tell you, is just about the best most fun voiceover I've heard in a RUclips video in a while. Of course it doesn't hurt that I LOVE aviation!
hey Jimmy, try starting a series for owning and operating these jets, we would all love to add some extra juice to our ambition to buy and run one of these. Love your work.
You can't afford one. I wouldn't take one if it was offered for free. The initial purchase price of a cheap jet is like the pusher giving a prospective junkie some free dope to start.
I used to take care of that exact Lear 24. We had the hush kits installed on it at the time it was in Canada. Pretty cool to see! Keep up the good work!
We had to install hush kits on our B727 fleet in the '90s so they could take off after 10pm. They were still very loud. Used to make a 10 storey maintenance hanger rattle from over a kilometre away!
@@timsmith854 I grew up, literally, a mile away from the Renton airport where they're made. On the playground in grade school, we couldn't hear each other talk. After the Air Force, I fueled them at SeaTac for a while. I liked the louder days better!
For me I’d love to have a personal Convair 580, yes it’s big and slow compared to a private jet even the slowtation but it’s a Classic Propliner with plenty of power to spare and in my opinion simply beautiful!
I’ve actually worked on the Jetstar II your video showed taxing, N77C. Dozen’s of Lear 31/35/36, and lots of Cessna 500 series. Lear Jets were far and away my favorite airframe to work on (from a structural mechanic’s point of view).
my uncle had cessna 500 for a while it was the first jet he owned after he made the jump from a turbo prop, now he has an xls but he absolutely loved the 500. when its well maintained said it was a great plane
Yeah buddy! Do a complete history of the Lear! They used to have one hanging from the ceiling of the business aviation section of the Air and Space museum in Washington DC, my hometown!
The Cessna Slowtation is just one very safe airlane. Not very much faster than a Super King Air for sure, but hardly any asymmetry issues when one engine is unoperative, very low stalling speeds, reverse thrust etc.
"but hardly any asymmetry issues when one engine is unoperative" --- Not true. You had better have a heavy foot deep into the rudder pedal of the good engine in a hurry on a V1 cut or you will be upside down in a hurry. No twin-jet is easy at V1 engine loss. Well, the T-38 was easy, but it was certified and licensed as centerline thrust. And then it would kill you while trying to land it.
Back in 1991 oh, I had a spine surgery that was 18 and 1/2 hours of surgery, and the company that I work for provided me with Learjet 35 to transport me from my airport in Tampa Florida, to Gainesville Florida, and I believe the cost was approximately $10,000 round trip plus ambulance ride from my house to the airport, then from the hospital back to the airport in Gainesville and I believe each ambulance charge $700 each total of $1,400 I may be off I don't remember gotten a lot older but the company that I work for they treated me first class and I will always be indebted to them for what they've done for me oh, by the way that surgery that I had a 2 and 1/2 hours continuous was the longest spine surgery ever done in the United States at that time.
The basic structure of the Swiss P-16 aircraft was seen by Bill Lear and his team as a good starting point to the development of a business jet, and formed the Swiss American Aircraft Corporation, located in Altenrhein, Switzerland, and staffed with design engineers from Switzerland, Germany and Britain.
@@daszieher That "jet sales rep" was a fake or a fool. This is just an old joke and one that gives wrong information. I have flown for decades and dealt with many rich people with or buying jets. Successful people ALWAYS ask what something costs. And don't bullshit them. Often, they already know the answer. They are just trying to find out how much you know.
@@zak2u2 that is probably what he meant. A person walking in, who doesn't already know what the product and its upkeep costs, is probably not going to be a jet customer.
Richard Fennimore The 35 was a pig compared to a 20 series. Much heavier and two more feet of wing on each side. Safer and easier to fly, but not as much fun.. But I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you didn't know
@@medfireserviciosdeemergencia Neither is better. Just depends on what your needs are. The 31 was built to be light to compete with the newer Citation's ability to use shorter runways. It also could climb more easily to F510 to take advantage of fuel savings at altitude. Much of the weight reduction came about by removing the tip tanks which reduced its range. If you are thinking about shorter runways and don't need the range, the 31 would be good. If you want the range, try the 35. Be sure to get proper training. These airplanes are pilot's planes and will kill you if they can. But with proper training and respect they are fine.
People new to aviation should understand that maintenance and operating costs are much more important than pricetags. And the range of those costs vastly exceeds the differences between say a Honda Civic and a Lambo.
My Dad was a draftsman with Aero Commander in OKC from 1963 through 1972 when he passed. I think it was 1966 He took myself & sister to the company one evening and showed us the plane that Arthur Godfrey had flown around the world setting a record. I learned what a Wemac was thanks to my Dad.
Bill Lear was a genius ahead of his time. The smaller Learjet 23 and 24 was outfitted with armament and used in the Falklands conflict in the late 70's. All private jets have their great features, but the Learjet will be always my personal favorite!! I'm just a Powerball win away!! 💵 💰
Most had fuel leaks of some sort. Took ours to "Tank Dogs" in FTW. They hired small people to fit inside and seal. Once out it was awesome - dry as a bone. Held 8,910# of fuel. West -East easy. Most days had to stop coming Westbound. So, Colorado Springs with the "Flower Girls" in Pueblo who wore hot pants to entire the pilots to stop and buy gas there. Or Lincoln, NE: 4 bacon wrapped fillets for every 100 gallons purchased. Let's see, I need 800 gallons and I have a Captain's doubling coupon from last Christmas...oh, the stories we could tell.
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Damn: Flown a few in your history lesson so here we go: Westwind II: DOG on the ground. One reverser might come out before the other so hang on tight. Decent handling at 10,000'. Hawker size cabin for way less money. While the external baggage compartments are not pressurized, they are heated (electric blankets). The FMS was programmed with a 1" wide paper tape - yes kids, like a very long set of punch cards. And they had to be done in order, SLOWLY or it wouldn't load right (about 6 per revision). When I left the airplane in 1995, we were one of only 5 Collins operators who still had Jepp subscriptions on paper tape. Finally, some older celeb's appreciated the airplane because it could go reasonably fast without a whole lot of stairs to get in. The 731 JetStar: AWESOME ANIMAL. Originally designed as an Air Force Executive transport. Yes, old. But a Gulfstream II sized cabin for 2/3 the fuel (even with 4 engines) and a DREAM to fly. LOVED this airplane (ok, it was my first jet and there is always something for your first love). Actually, the cockpit looks a LOT like the C-130 - though faster (sorry Herc drivers). I also liked the "eyebrow" windows which really lets you see the runway you're circling to...but circling is so out of fashion now. Eventually, Lockheed wanted to kill it (liability) so they put out an AD on the tail hinge pin, cancelled all the PMA's for it and the only one's still flying are part 91. Too bad. Took my first Jet-A bath while draining the mast from the fuel dump-S pipe in that bird. I'm sure there are tons of other Lear and Citation driver who can comment on their sleds. Thanks for summarizing Jimmy! Love the channel PS: Famous Jetstar owners: ELVIS, The Andretti brothers, Kenny Rogers, Wayne Newton (I can picture the kids having to look ALL of these up).
Have to agree with you on the Lear, only problem I see is it requires a co-pilot and can not be flown single pilot...other than that its the best looking biz jet ever made
Very sad that Learjet is now gone. Truly the brand that defined the "jetset". An American legend.... and, to this day, the only private jet that had capabilities like a fighter plane. Try taking off STRAIGHT UP in a Cessna... not gonna happen
Since you like Lear Jet speed you might check out the lear 23 owned by Evil Knievel which sported GEJT6-9 10k per min climb and faster than, well you pick.
31a is stunning. I'll take a Lear any day, even the 24d. I'll need 1/4 $million a year to maintain it but so what !!! The most iconic biz jet of all time
The early Lear 20's (23, 24, 25, and 28) had the CJ-610 engines, the same engines (Civilian version, without the afterburner) as the military T-38's. The bad news, however, is that their ear-splitting takeoff noise levels has them banned from many U.S. airports. (also, the Lear 24D was doing aileron rolls, not Barrel Rolls.) Rockwell-Standard purchased the Aero Commander line back in 1958, when they were already making their first flights in their own business jet, the famed Sabreliners. So the Aero Commander line finished design and development of the 1121 Jet Commander by 1963. But then along came the FTC and said, "hold on a minute, you've got a huge company building two different business jets through two different subsidiaries - we smell a 'monopoly'...." North American Aviation / North American Rockwell / Rockwell was told in no uncertain terms - "you have to sell one of these jets!" Given the novelty and other limitations (and future prospective sales) of the Jet Commander (1121) vs the vastly superior Sabreliner, Rockwell sold Jet Commander to Israeli Aircraft Industries, NOT the whole Aero Commander Line. (Spoiler alert: I'm a professional corporate pilot, with Types: Lear Jet Type, DA10 [Falcon10], CE650, EMB500, BE300, 35 years and over 12,000 hours experience)
Jimy, I had to fix a Westwind once after it hit a deer on the runway. P.U. did that one stink? Almost as bad as the Aztec that swallowed a duck when it hit the radome and defelcted the fiberglass enough to slide into the front baggage compartment. That one was a real stinker. I was a duck plucker that day.
U were just on my RUclips. I interested in learning the different type private jets. The best ones for speed. Thank you fir showing all jets here. Looking forward to seeing more.🤙
In 1980 I left college and went to work for a company that put on real estate investment seminars (very big back then). My first week there I flew back to NY from CA in an Aerostar. I then sat around for a couple days while the pilot/marketing head got his jet certifications so we could return in a slightly used Mitsubishi MU-2. In the next year I logged over 100 hours riding in the right front seat of that MU-2 which was known back then as the rice rocket. At that time it was the worlds fastest non military prop driven aircraft.
I fly these planes for a living. I make a decent living, and I can assure you, if they gave me a plane for free, I could not afford it. The purchase price is trivial compared to the upkeep.
Westwind is the pick. Cheap to buy. Cheap TFE731-3 engines that can cost you under $50 per hour to buy. 350 knots at sea level out of the box. Drop down isle so almost a stand up cabin. 10 passengers.shit loads of fuel. ACM to keep passengers cool and an SRM that let's you repair anything.
Well earlier this year Bombardier announced they are ending Lear Jet production. I do hate to tell you that the cheapest part of buying those jets is buying them! Flying and maintaining them is twice as much. Jimmy the minute you add turbine to something double if not triple it!
@@nobodythatyouknow241 Bombardier bought Learjet in 1990. They are indeed discontinuing the Learjet brand. Source: I work at a Bombardier Service Center.
@@nobodythatyouknow241 Bombardier bought the Learjet over a decade ago, "Learjet is a Canadian-owned aerospace manufacturer of business jets for civilian and military use based in Wichita, Kansas, United States. Founded in the late 1950s by William Powell Lear as Swiss American Aviation Corporation, it has been a subsidiary of Canadian Bombardier Aerospace since 1990, which markets it as the "Bombardier Learjet Family". The 3,000th Learjet was delivered in June 2017. In February 2021, Bombardier announced the end of production for all new Learjet aircraft in 2021, with the continuation of support and maintenance for aircraft currently in service"
Great list Jimmy. Love them all. However, there is a major problem - I believe that every jet on this list requires two pilots. In researching a possible jet upgrade to our MU2, I've found just how few single pilot jets there are out there. You and I would be looking a bird we could fly "ourselves". The list of those for under a million is pretty short. After all my searching, we've just decided to just pour a chunk of money into the Mits and make it better in every way.
You can do an FAA re-certification that allows for single-pilot use IF you do a full Garmin Glass Cockpit Flight Deck Upgrade with that fancy Highway-in-the-Sky reduced aircraft separation software. That flight deck is as cheap as $75,000 which is basically a Boeing 777 cockpit shrunk down to one-person! The FAA re-certification cost after the price of the new flight deck is around $50,000 for an onsite inspection and full flight deck designs/plans and aircraft review/inspection. Sooooo, for about $125,000 in upgrades and FAA inspections, any one of these can be made fully single-pilot! V
The insurance companies are making the rules. Insurance for single-pilot operation is very difficult to get in the last couple of years. It's cheaper just to have two pilots many times. A newer pilot just isn't going to get it.
@@conq3097 Sometimes the aircraft is certified. Sometimes the FAA allows a pilot to get a special certification to fly a two pilot Citation single pilot. But again, the insurance is the sticker.
I'm glad to see the Lear35a get so much attention. cut my teeth on these birds wrenching on them, not for the faint of heart pilot or mechanic, but a awesome little machine. The operation cost of a L35A these days is nothing to shrug at.
You know you've been bitten by the aviation bug when you stop drooling over sports cars and spend all day looking at 40 year old C182s thinking "Maybe.. Just maybe..."
I’m sitting here looking at this pos Lamborghini in my garage wondering what the hell I was thinking buying this thing when I could’ve bought a 25-30 year old jet instead!!!!! That stupid car is by far the worst financial mistake I’ve ever made but ohh well. I learned a lot from that stupid mistake!!! Should’ve bought a damn jet instead. LoL
@@Sully4Real Lamborghinis are indeed bad financial decisions, my father has made really good business deals buying and selling 20-30 year old planes and making charter flights, sell that lambo bro
Kenny Rogers also had a Lockheed Jetstar. If I remember right the tail number was N9KR. I had the pleasure of providing ramp services for this jet in Van Nuys California in the mid 80s. Got to meet Kenny Rogers on a few occasions. The planes nickname painted on the body was “Christopher Cody” after his son.
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Go look at what it costs for a NetJets subscription or similar. Unless you are flying more than twice a week the subscription will be cheaper than owning your own and crewing it.
The Learjet was adapted from a fighter designed for the Swiss Air Force designated FFA P-16. The wings are a direct lift from the P-16. Little known, it has retained hard points under the wings that can carry various 'pods' and can be loaded with munitions such as standoff glide bombs.
Props are for boats!!
favorite line ever!!!
Ever been in a jet boat? It’s pretty awesome!!
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@@dangreving1094 apples and oranges.
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These brought back memories of my youth. I worked for my Aunt and Uncles jet charter service out of SLC back in the 80s. Rode in and flew many on this list. I flew every Friday and Saturday night for a few months from SLC to PUB and back in a Lear 35. Great memories.
You ever flew any cocaine for the cartel?
@@beezytalkingshit9319 LOL, not knowingly.
@@BlackDim100 hahaha ;) I wouldn't ask any questions either lol. Get the paycheck and keep it moving. Can anyone become a pilot? Or did you go to college for it? And how long it took you before you were able to fly private jets?
Buy one of these airplanes and you will have two moments of happiness. First when you buy it and the second time when you sell it if you are lucky.
for real!
Aaaa....Thanks man....you're giving me idea I am googling to find one noq
That’s for boats silly, come on..anyone you buys one either has a use for it,knows they can write off everything at tax time,and should know the costs going in, and if you’ve got enough money and you fly a lot for work,why not enjoy private flights, and say screw dealing with 1000’s of ppl in the airport,and covid..a new car costs 80-250k today, yeah ppl with low incomes buy cars in the 40k range, but ppl with money have 4-5 cars costing as much as some of these planes,so spending money on fuel to fly where ever and when ever especially if you’re a real pilot,a good one, lol it’s called freedom..heck there’s ppl with a few hundred cars, so buying or collecting even planes isn’t anything but a joy for some..
With that attitude, I guess you’d say the same thing for a WWll fighter plane too..don’t you get it, some ppl just enjoy flying,and can afford to spend 1/4 or 1/2 a million on a plane,just fly around to have fun,make short trips, and go on vacation without dealing with the rest of the public…plus again, your comment is for boats, :)
@@markim5087 you're not a pilot
The Lear 31A at 6:15 is absolutely stunning. Perfectly designed in every detail.
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And yet, as with ALL Lears, the accident record is very bad... hmmm...
Not perfectly designed, especially if you're a pilot over 5'6" in height.
@@JohnDoe-yi9rm Agreed. I should have stated aesthetically perfect. It is a gorgeous plane. I flew in one and it is tight, but fun as all hell. Like fighter jet fun. Acceleration and climb I'll never forget.
@@MajorCaliber, hauling too much coke. 🫣
A little heads up from the mechanical side. Many of those aircraft have mandatory inspections (Airworthiness Directives) on the engines that are due. That puts them in a category we call B-E-R, beyond economic repair. Meaning that it would cost more to fix, repair, or inspect the plane that it is worth. That would be why they are so cheap.
100% nailed it.
You can do FAA re-certifications to allow the HondaJet engines to be installed which are quieter, more powerful and lighter than MANY of these jet engines AND they still fit in the nacelles! FAA engine re-deployment and re-certification costs are about $50,000 for each aircraft. This will save you lots of fuel and maintenance money even with the FAA engine remount inspection/re-certification costs!
Business Jet Re-engining is an an upcoming industry and the HondaJet engines seem to be the best ones to use nacelle-mount-size, fuel costs and maintenance-wise!
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So basically for sale for parts.
@@StarGateSG7 Re-engineing isn't a new thing. But you end up with an airplane with no warranty that is a bastard with no complete manuals and no training simulators and no pre-trained pilots. And the rest of the airplane is still old and a maintenance hog. By the time you buy a cheap POS jet, re-engine it, repaint it, upgrade the interior and put in some new radios, you might as well have gotten a better airplane to start with. There's no cheap way to do it.
@@repro7780 I seen several really nice looking jets go to the boneyard for parts because it needed engines. Just wasn't worth it economically.
Flying the learjet 35A on Medevac missions around Europe. This aircraft is an absolute beast. Great if you've got above average SA and instrument skills. 1 FMS all analogue instruments, 6900fpm rate of climb and 45,000 operating ceiling, no altitude preselect or auto throttle/thrust. It will make you work and you'll love it
Not to mention if you're above average height, the cockpit can be a bit cramped!
Still nothing compared to the older small Lears (23, 24 and 25). Those literally go straight-up from take-off.
Livin the life 👍
The 35A is a Fabulous Machine.
@@joshuaowens4797 Yeah the joke was, at least on the 23 that you could declare emergency fuel on startup. 😂
I was working in a FBO in the mid 1970’s. The working for flying time. A Lear 24 Corporate Jet arrived. The executives on the flight got sick. Yes real bad. So I had to clean the inside of the Lear. Seats and carpet unbolted. Easy and I cleaned it in the hanger. About a week later on a Sunday the pilots did a flight check. I was offered the right seat. We did a maximum performance takeoff. OMG. Also was able to fly for a bit. They sign off on my flight log book. What a memory.
Good job, sounds like fu
Hell yeah sounds awesome! I worked at an FBO last year and the learjets even with hush kits are still loud! 😎
very cool!
@@therealjimmysworld For those of us that love jets....It's called a wet dream....On my bucket list, but not likely I'll do it...
Worst turbulence on the planet: Banning Pass into Palm Springs. Pax hit heads on ceiling, F/O almost knocked himself out. Landed - waited until pax gone and kissed the ground. FBO dude invites us over to other airplane (Citation) where lav busted loose, rolled through cabin spraying blue juice everywhere...ok, we did better than them!
Have a Lear 23 that comes to our airfield flown by a 70 year old private owner, the one window version…..she’s a beauty
Rocketship!
Does he fly it alone? I think they are two pilot only....
Learjet 20s where basically a fighter jet design adapted to transport, real interesting story the learjet 20 series :p
Thanks for the info, good to know!
Oh yes, but the original fighter crashed into the lake Constance. Thank God Learjets usually don't
An L35A Im flying was an ex military of UAE for electronic warfare. Some were used in Falklands war by the Argentinians too
@@pascalchauvet7625 25% of the original Lear 23s have crashed over the years. A squirrely unforgiving machine.
No. It used the wing but that was about all. The fighter jet thing is just hangar ramp gossip we hear a lot.
Can we take a second and appreciate the camera work on the Lear31A?? Beautiful ! Thank you for the video!
Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
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I was wondering if it was the same price. But apparently it is... 🤷🏼♂️😂
I think it’s more about the fact it’s golden hour so the lighting is exactly as you’d want it. The sun is just in the right place you only get 2 chances a day for just under an hour usually. Gorgeous plane though 👌
Bear in mind that the cost of operation may actually be higher in an older jet than a newer one: three or four grand per hour is common.
Unless you're an aircraft mechanic.
@@bernieweber4663 Still will be $$ even as an A/P. I know I wouldn't take it on. Plus when are the next checks due?
@@andrewj9831 you would need to pay for the IA and parts. You'd really want to check the engine hours and go over the logbook to see they didn't miss anything previously and all the service bulletins and directives. The engines are the most costly. It helps to go in with four or five pilots and share the aircraft flight time and costs.
@@bernieweber4663 I work in aviation MX and have my IA, overseeing MX for part 91and 135 operations for a major operator. There is a reason why the plane is for sale at $75K, and from my exp, it's because it's coming due or past due for heavy checks.
@@andrewj9831 I can believe that for sure. It might be worth it for the right person, group, or company.
One thing you don't want: a cheap private jet.
I did fly the Lear 35 and 31. They are still my favorite planes i have ever flown. The 31 has the better performance due to less weight but the 35 has the more range you need for some missions
very cool!
Missions? Do tell.
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@Harmless_little_prick he just means for normal purposes. They phrase it as "missions" not as cool as it sounds, lol
While learning to fly, many years ago, I was sitting in my 172 at midfield to a 10,000 foot runway waiting for an Israeli Westwind to land. At the last moment the westwind decided on a go around and his wheels came up and the power came up and that pilot held it in ground effect for the entire 10,000 feet. He went by me at about 25 feet off the deck. It was a truly beautiful sight.
That would’ve been a sight! Sheesh
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I have 1200 hours in Westwinds in Australia. Great aeroplane, super nice handling. So nice there's no stick shaker or stall warning - pull back, get a littel aerodynamic buffet, then a gently nose drop and fly away. You can do 360 knots to a ten mile final with a 90º intercept on the ILS at 10 miles and still cross the fence at Vref if you really want to (hitting speed brakes and all of the flap and gear limits to slow down.)
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This, as a professional voiceover artist, can tell you, is just about the best most fun voiceover I've heard in a RUclips video in a while. Of course it doesn't hurt that I LOVE aviation!
hey Jimmy, try starting a series for owning and operating these jets, we would all love to add some extra juice to our ambition to buy and run one of these. Love your work.
Cool idea!
You can't afford one. I wouldn't take one if it was offered for free. The initial purchase price of a cheap jet is like the pusher giving a prospective junkie some free dope to start.
I used to take care of that exact Lear 24.
We had the hush kits installed on it at the time it was in Canada.
Pretty cool to see!
Keep up the good work!
We had to install hush kits on our B727 fleet in the '90s so they could take off after 10pm. They were still very loud. Used to make a 10 storey maintenance hanger rattle from over a kilometre away!
@@timsmith854 haha! Yes sir, I remember those fondly. The golden age of waking the neighbourhood
@@timsmith854 I grew up, literally, a mile away from the Renton airport where they're made.
On the playground in grade school, we couldn't hear each other talk.
After the Air Force, I fueled them at SeaTac for a while.
I liked the louder days better!
Bob Hope also had a JetStar II. Saw it many times at our facility.
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For me I’d love to have a personal Convair 580, yes it’s big and slow compared to a private jet even the slowtation but it’s a Classic Propliner with plenty of power to spare and in my opinion simply beautiful!
Oh, yes. Those powerful and "Music to the ears" ALLISONS.
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Ill take an f22 with a passenger seat
I’ve actually worked on the Jetstar II your video showed taxing, N77C. Dozen’s of Lear 31/35/36, and lots of Cessna 500 series. Lear Jets were far and away my favorite airframe to work on (from a structural mechanic’s point of view).
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It’s interesting, as a retired corporate pilot, how many of theses aircraft I’ve flown. Ah, the good ole days. How I miss flying.
Which was your favorite old or new jet?
why you're not flying anymore ?
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my uncle had cessna 500 for a while it was the first jet he owned after he made the jump from a turbo prop, now he has an xls but he absolutely loved the 500. when its well maintained said it was a great plane
You uncle had a private jet. .wowww.
Flew the Lear 40XR, my first jet. And still to this day after other types under my belt is still my favorite plane I ever flew.
Awesome!
Too bad there's no more Lear Jets being produced. The upper leadership at bombardier should be hanged.
I'm not sure if 'Cheap' is something I want associated with me being in it, booking along at 500mph at 30,000 feet.
@fladave99 Mills If you need a jet to get laid, gotta up your game.. LOL
@fladave99 Mills Or both
Yeah buddy!
Do a complete history of the Lear! They used to have one hanging from the ceiling of the business aviation section of the Air and Space museum in Washington DC, my hometown!
very cool!
Read Victor Bosen's book They Said it Couldn't be Done.
I worked on a falcon 20 for 3.5 years. It is NRC's zero gravity plane. Its awesome
Very cool! The vomit comet? Hahaha
@@therealjimmysworld yes the vomit comet. We use to bet on who would throw up first lol
The Cessna Slowtation is just one very safe airlane. Not very much faster than a Super King Air for sure, but hardly any asymmetry issues when one engine is unoperative, very low stalling speeds, reverse thrust etc.
"but hardly any asymmetry issues when one engine is unoperative" --- Not true. You had better have a heavy foot deep into the rudder pedal of the good engine in a hurry on a V1 cut or you will be upside down in a hurry. No twin-jet is easy at V1 engine loss. Well, the T-38 was easy, but it was certified and licensed as centerline thrust. And then it would kill you while trying to land it.
I used to take the Lear 35a out for run up test . We would gag it down a empty taxi way. So fun
very cool!
Back in 1991 oh, I had a spine surgery that was 18 and 1/2 hours of surgery, and the company that I work for provided me with Learjet 35 to transport me from my airport in Tampa Florida, to Gainesville Florida, and I believe the cost was approximately $10,000 round trip plus ambulance ride from my house to the airport, then from the hospital back to the airport in Gainesville and I believe each ambulance charge $700 each total of $1,400 I may be off I don't remember gotten a lot older but the company that I work for they treated me first class and I will always be indebted to them for what they've done for me oh, by the way that surgery that I had a 2 and 1/2 hours continuous was the longest spine surgery ever done in the United States at that time.
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2 1/2 hour surgery was the longest ever done?
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Hey Jimmy, love your videos. I'm a big aviation fan and really like your take on all this. Keep them coming
Fun video and looking forward to you doing a series just on the Lear Jets.
Thanks so much!
Love the Lear 35. I don't own a real one, but I have watched them take off from the airport. And I have a very nice model of one. Great video.👍👍👍👍👍
Some trivia for Ya, William Powell Lear's daughter was named? Yep: "Chanda" Lear
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The basic structure of the Swiss P-16 aircraft was seen by Bill Lear and his team as a good starting point to the development of a business jet, and formed the Swiss American Aircraft Corporation, located in Altenrhein, Switzerland, and staffed with design engineers from Switzerland, Germany and Britain.
Haha this is like saying military intelligence, there is no a such thing as a cheap jet. Always fun to watch your videos.
Thanks! hahaha
Yup. A jet sales rep at a fair once told me, if they ask the price, you know they are not a customer.
@@daszieher That "jet sales rep" was a fake or a fool. This is just an old joke and one that gives wrong information. I have flown for decades and dealt with many rich people with or buying jets. Successful people ALWAYS ask what something costs. And don't bullshit them. Often, they already know the answer. They are just trying to find out how much you know.
@@zak2u2 that is probably what he meant. A person walking in, who doesn't already know what the product and its upkeep costs, is probably not going to be a jet customer.
In other words, an oxymoron.
Love the Lear! Thanks Bill!!
Flew the Lear 25 from 1989 to 1994, and the Lear 35 from 1994 to 1995. Awesome little airplanes. As close as you can get to a fighter jet! 😎
very cool!
Richard Fennimore
The 35 was a pig compared to a 20 series. Much heavier and two more feet of wing on each side. Safer and easier to fly, but not as much fun.. But I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you didn't know
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@@boyracer3477 which is better 31 or 35 series. Thinking in Southamerica Ops.? Thanks
@@medfireserviciosdeemergencia Neither is better. Just depends on what your needs are. The 31 was built to be light to compete with the newer Citation's ability to use shorter runways. It also could climb more easily to F510 to take advantage of fuel savings at altitude. Much of the weight reduction came about by removing the tip tanks which reduced its range. If you are thinking about shorter runways and don't need the range, the 31 would be good. If you want the range, try the 35. Be sure to get proper training. These airplanes are pilot's planes and will kill you if they can. But with proper training and respect they are fine.
I used to work at Learjet on the Lear Model 45 and Lear 60. Also, I worked at Gulfstream on the G150 and G280. They all were awesome planes...
May be able to buy them cheap but maintenance and operational cost will drain your bank account quickly
for real!
No problem. Jimmy has a printing press in his basement.
It would be nice to see accurate videos of the complete costs of ownership.
Master of the obvious.
Thanks for bringing back
Memories. I've worked on just about every one of those birds. You are just about spot on with your Annalise.
People new to aviation should understand that maintenance and operating costs are much more important than pricetags.
And the range of those costs vastly exceeds the differences between say a Honda Civic and a Lambo.
100% agree. The cheapest thing about airplanes is the owners! hahaha Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
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My Dad was a draftsman with Aero Commander in OKC from 1963 through 1972 when he passed. I think it was 1966 He took myself & sister to the company one evening and showed us the plane that Arthur Godfrey had flown around the world setting a record. I learned what a Wemac was thanks to my Dad.
YES!!! Do an entire Lear Jet series (-;
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Bill Lear was a genius ahead of his time. The smaller Learjet 23 and 24 was outfitted with armament and used in the Falklands conflict in the late 70's. All private jets have their great features, but the Learjet will be always my personal favorite!! I'm just a Powerball win away!! 💵 💰
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I love the Westwind, and then I had to fill it up. 1100 gallons when full is the reason it's so cheap. Richard Petty has had one for decades.
The Westwind is a good bird. It has some maintenance quirks, but is normally dependable.
very cool!!
Most had fuel leaks of some sort. Took ours to "Tank Dogs" in FTW. They hired small people to fit inside and seal. Once out it was awesome - dry as a bone. Held 8,910# of fuel. West -East easy. Most days had to stop coming Westbound. So, Colorado Springs with the "Flower Girls" in Pueblo who wore hot pants to entire the pilots to stop and buy gas there. Or Lincoln, NE: 4 bacon wrapped fillets for every 100 gallons purchased. Let's see, I need 800 gallons and I have a Captain's doubling coupon from last Christmas...oh, the stories we could tell.
Oh my god!!!!!! What a wonderful video! You are really passionate about aviation! Thank you!!!!!!!
Well I flew as copilot on a jet star 2 for a while and it thought it was incredible. I also like the Lear 20 series because I am old.
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I’ve now just watched two of Jimmy’s videos…..
I’m hooked. Funnier than hell! 😆
YES THANK YOU, this is the perfect youtube channel with the content i have been looking for. You are serious underrated man. Keep going like this and you're no doubt gonna become famous 🤩
Thanks so much!
the lear 31a was my fav!... lots of performance and killer looks. ..the gt3 rs of planes!
Skip Vreeburg?
Damn: Flown a few in your history lesson so here we go: Westwind II: DOG on the ground. One reverser might come out before the other so hang on tight. Decent handling at 10,000'. Hawker size cabin for way less money. While the external baggage compartments are not pressurized, they are heated (electric blankets). The FMS was programmed with a 1" wide paper tape - yes kids, like a very long set of punch cards. And they had to be done in order, SLOWLY or it wouldn't load right (about 6 per revision). When I left the airplane in 1995, we were one of only 5 Collins operators who still had Jepp subscriptions on paper tape. Finally, some older celeb's appreciated the airplane because it could go reasonably fast without a whole lot of stairs to get in. The 731 JetStar: AWESOME ANIMAL. Originally designed as an Air Force Executive transport. Yes, old. But a Gulfstream II sized cabin for 2/3 the fuel (even with 4 engines) and a DREAM to fly. LOVED this airplane (ok, it was my first jet and there is always something for your first love). Actually, the cockpit looks a LOT like the C-130 - though faster (sorry Herc drivers). I also liked the "eyebrow" windows which really lets you see the runway you're circling to...but circling is so out of fashion now. Eventually, Lockheed wanted to kill it (liability) so they put out an AD on the tail hinge pin, cancelled all the PMA's for it and the only one's still flying are part 91. Too bad. Took my first Jet-A bath while draining the mast from the fuel dump-S pipe in that bird. I'm sure there are tons of other Lear and Citation driver who can comment on their sleds. Thanks for summarizing Jimmy! Love the channel
PS: Famous Jetstar owners: ELVIS, The Andretti brothers, Kenny Rogers, Wayne Newton (I can picture the kids having to look ALL of these up).
very cool!
I fly a Learjet 35A Air Ambulance & LOVE IT !
Love the excitement and energy lol. Makes the same old content (old jets…) fun !
Glad you liked it!
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Love that dark blue to light blue color scheme on that Leer jet...
Have to agree with you on the Lear, only problem I see is it requires a co-pilot and can not be flown single pilot...other than that its the best looking biz jet ever made
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True
This was a very cool video
If you buy something cheap, there is a reason it’s that cheap…it will cost a fortune to fix, or buy parts…if you can find them.
Exactely. Same as for boats. Much work needed to refit the boat or the plane ? Even 0.-$ would be too expensive in extreme cases.
for real!
I used to work on a 20 series Learjet. Take off was amazing! Like a rocket!
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Very sad that Learjet is now gone. Truly the brand that defined the "jetset". An American legend.... and, to this day, the only private jet that had capabilities like a fighter plane. Try taking off STRAIGHT UP in a Cessna... not gonna happen
Flew a Lear25. What an airplane!
My CJ4 had similar weight to power ratio of a Lear 35.
Try taking off STRAIGHT UP in a Lear…also not gonna happen. 🤦♂️
Since you like Lear Jet speed you might check out the lear 23 owned by Evil Knievel which sported GEJT6-9 10k per min climb and faster than, well you pick.
31a is stunning. I'll take a Lear any day, even the 24d. I'll need 1/4 $million a year to maintain it but so what !!! The most iconic biz jet of all time
very cool!
The LEAR 31-A was my fave (just gotta make sure to hit the can before take off lol)
Walk the road you want to walk and do what you want to do , keep moving ahead and that’s not the silence of failure.
That Citation might be slow, but that was the coolest sounding take-off I ever heard recorded
for real!
Good to know. When I'm in the market for a new jet, low price is my top priority.
The early Lear 20's (23, 24, 25, and 28) had the CJ-610 engines, the same engines (Civilian version, without the afterburner) as the military T-38's. The bad news, however, is that their ear-splitting takeoff noise levels has them banned from many U.S. airports. (also, the Lear 24D was doing aileron rolls, not Barrel Rolls.) Rockwell-Standard purchased the Aero Commander line back in 1958, when they were already making their first flights in their own business jet, the famed Sabreliners. So the Aero Commander line finished design and development of the 1121 Jet Commander by 1963. But then along came the FTC and said, "hold on a minute, you've got a huge company building two different business jets through two different subsidiaries - we smell a 'monopoly'...." North American Aviation / North American Rockwell / Rockwell was told in no uncertain terms - "you have to sell one of these jets!" Given the novelty and other limitations (and future prospective sales) of the Jet Commander (1121) vs the vastly superior Sabreliner, Rockwell sold Jet Commander to Israeli Aircraft Industries, NOT the whole Aero Commander Line. (Spoiler alert: I'm a professional corporate pilot, with Types: Lear Jet Type, DA10 [Falcon10], CE650, EMB500, BE300, 35 years and over 12,000 hours experience)
Thanks for the info, good to know!
Right about the CJ-610s. The T-38 also had no anti-ice.
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I learned the Lear as soon as flight sim had it. I’m 58 and still think it’s tops like Steinway is to A Concert pianist
Jimy, I had to fix a Westwind once after it hit a deer on the runway. P.U. did that one stink? Almost as bad as the Aztec that swallowed a duck when it hit the radome and defelcted the fiberglass enough to slide into the front baggage compartment. That one was a real stinker. I was a duck plucker that day.
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U were just on my RUclips. I interested in learning the different type private jets. The best ones for speed. Thank you fir showing all jets here. Looking forward to seeing more.🤙
Glad I could help!
Great video! Would love to see the cost breakdown for running four engines on that Junkstar. How it is number two is beyond me.
This more of a comedy show, not a legit listing of great and cheap jets.
In 1980 I left college and went to work for a company that put on real estate investment seminars (very big back then). My first week there I flew back to NY from CA in an Aerostar. I then sat around for a couple days while the pilot/marketing head got his jet certifications so we could return in a slightly used Mitsubishi MU-2. In the next year I logged over 100 hours riding in the right front seat of that MU-2 which was known back then as the rice rocket. At that time it was the worlds fastest non military prop driven aircraft.
I fly these planes for a living. I make a decent living, and I can assure you, if they gave me a plane for free, I could not afford it. The purchase price is trivial compared to the upkeep.
Some need two pilots and also your TOUC= time of useful consciousness is seconds when you cruise above FL390. Thanks Jimmy. The singing was good.
You buy an old jet for $75,000, then the engines need a $500,000 each overhaul, that is if you can still get the parts.
for real!
You have to build a machine shop for a million dollars and get into manufacturing your own parts
Westwind is the pick.
Cheap to buy. Cheap TFE731-3 engines that can cost you under $50 per hour to buy. 350 knots at sea level out of the box. Drop down isle so almost a stand up cabin. 10 passengers.shit loads of fuel.
ACM to keep passengers cool and an SRM that let's you repair anything.
Person: "What do you drive?"
Me: "Mitsubishi"
HAHAHA, that's awesome!
I like the light-hearted approach, but still informative. Good work.
Well earlier this year Bombardier announced they are ending Lear Jet production. I do hate to tell you that the cheapest part of buying those jets is buying them! Flying and maintaining them is twice as much. Jimmy the minute you add turbine to something double if not triple it!
Bombardier and Lear are two different companies.
of course! If you have to ask, you can't afford it.... I had to ask... and can't afford it.... hahahaha
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Bombardier bought Learjet in 1990. They are indeed discontinuing the Learjet brand.
Source: I work at a Bombardier Service Center.
@@nobodythatyouknow241 Bombardier and Lear are different in the same way General Motors and Pontiac are different.
@@nobodythatyouknow241 Bombardier bought the Learjet over a decade ago,
"Learjet is a Canadian-owned aerospace manufacturer of business jets for civilian and military use based in Wichita, Kansas, United States. Founded in the late 1950s by William Powell Lear as Swiss American Aviation Corporation, it has been a subsidiary of Canadian Bombardier Aerospace since 1990, which markets it as the "Bombardier Learjet Family". The 3,000th Learjet was delivered in June 2017.
In February 2021, Bombardier announced the end of production for all new Learjet aircraft in 2021, with the continuation of support and maintenance for aircraft currently in service"
" GREAT " review...., great voice. Will follow more often ....., Thank-you 😊😊😊
The Lear 31 is a Lear 35 with a 55 wing. I loved my time flying the 31s.
Didn't they have the belly tank removed to compete with the Citation for runway length? That would have been a rocket.
Jimmy you need that last jet!!! SWEEEEET!!!
Thanks to this man, I now have an airforce😂
Thanks! hahaha
I’m glad your channel came up!
Thanks so much!
Great list Jimmy. Love them all. However, there is a major problem - I believe that every jet on this list requires two pilots. In researching a possible jet upgrade to our MU2, I've found just how few single pilot jets there are out there. You and I would be looking a bird we could fly "ourselves". The list of those for under a million is pretty short. After all my searching, we've just decided to just pour a chunk of money into the Mits and make it better in every way.
very cool!
You can do an FAA re-certification that allows for single-pilot use IF you do a full Garmin Glass Cockpit Flight Deck Upgrade with that fancy Highway-in-the-Sky reduced aircraft separation software. That flight deck is as cheap as $75,000 which is basically a Boeing 777 cockpit shrunk down to one-person!
The FAA re-certification cost after the price of the new flight deck is around $50,000 for an onsite inspection and full flight deck designs/plans and aircraft review/inspection.
Sooooo, for about $125,000 in upgrades and FAA inspections, any one of these can be made fully single-pilot!
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Most Cessnas are single pilot certified
The insurance companies are making the rules. Insurance for single-pilot operation is very difficult to get in the last couple of years. It's cheaper just to have two pilots many times. A newer pilot just isn't going to get it.
@@conq3097 Sometimes the aircraft is certified. Sometimes the FAA allows a pilot to get a special certification to fly a two pilot Citation single pilot. But again, the insurance is the sticker.
Jimmy! Let’s go in halvesy’s on a Lear 35! 😎
for real!
I'm glad to see the Lear35a get so much attention. cut my teeth on these birds wrenching on them, not for the faint of heart pilot or mechanic, but a awesome little machine. The operation cost of a L35A these days is nothing to shrug at.
Thanks for sharing
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Cool stuff, fuel rate of burn would be nice to have too.
This guy makes me want to save money for a learjet 34 instead of saving for my dream car
very cool!
You know you've been bitten by the aviation bug when you stop drooling over sports cars and spend all day looking at 40 year old C182s thinking "Maybe.. Just maybe..."
I’m sitting here looking at this pos Lamborghini in my garage wondering what the hell I was thinking buying this thing when I could’ve bought a 25-30 year old jet instead!!!!! That stupid car is by far the worst financial mistake I’ve ever made but ohh well. I learned a lot from that stupid mistake!!! Should’ve bought a damn jet instead. LoL
@@Sully4Real Lamborghinis are indeed bad financial decisions, my father has made really good business deals buying and selling 20-30 year old planes and making charter flights, sell that lambo bro
The Learjet 36A was the longest range small Lear. We operated one for many years in the early 80s across the Atlantic.
That Lear jet that went around the world is hanging in Denver international Airport
Terminal C
@@blite2847 yup
I think they are banned due to noise in the US and you can only fly them with special permissions.
@@Dr_Reason RVSM killed a bunch of old small jets. It wasn't worth upgrading them.
very cool!
Kenny Rogers also had a Lockheed Jetstar. If I remember right the tail number was N9KR. I had the pleasure of providing ramp services for this jet in Van Nuys California in the mid 80s. Got to meet Kenny Rogers on a few occasions. The planes nickname painted on the body was “Christopher Cody” after his son.
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The Super Rad Jet Star rocks them all
very cool!
Flew on a Lear 35 twice. It pinned me to the seat on takeoff.
heck yes!
That's nothing. Try a 25. The 35 is a pig compared to that.
OMG! The Lear 35A, what a sleek jet. I want one with drop tanks for that extra distance. Swap out the engines and get to Mach1.
Could you add in what it costs to maintain these planes yearly? Or how much it costs per flight hour with a hired pilot? Would be super interesting
Over my budget x's the acceleration of Gravity squared..
Go look at what it costs for a NetJets subscription or similar. Unless you are flying more than twice a week the subscription will be cheaper than owning your own and crewing it.
If you have to ask............
@@bidlymovies987 I am no where near being able to afford a plane lol. Just wondering how much that’s all
The Learjet was adapted from a fighter designed for the Swiss Air Force designated FFA P-16. The wings are a direct lift from the P-16. Little known, it has retained hard points under the wings that can carry various 'pods' and can be loaded with munitions such as standoff glide bombs.
Some great planes! BTW, the wing of the original Learjet was directly derived from the wing of a Swiss fighter jet prototype (P-16).
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One don’t say Citation X, one would say Citation ten. That’s the name. Love from Slovenia!