My Perfect Submariner: Why I Prefer Tudor Over Rolex + Unboxing/Review
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2019
- Today I not only unbox a Submariner ref. 79090, but after more than a week of serious wrist time and 6 months of hunting, I go straight into the review too. This is highly unusual for me, but when you have owned and experienced as many Subs as I have, it feels amazing to finally find the perfect one.
Why is the allure of the classic Rolex and Tudor Submariners so strong? Why is this reference better (in my opinion) than all other references (both newer and older) that I've owned and tried? Even if it is far inferior to the technical and engineering supremacy of the modern Rolex 116610LN, why do I still prefer this dated Tudor? How does it differ from my previous Tudor 36mm 75090 in blue? And why did I choose to buy this and not the historic Tudor 7928, which I previously reviewed several months ago, or for that matter, the ref. 1680 counterpart from Rolex? Why is this a better value compared to the more desired "Snowflake" submariners?
As well as discussing my personal feelings and thoughts about it, I share why I chose this over the legendary 1960s BlancPain Bathyscape MC4 that I bought and sold quite quickly. So quickly that I didn't even have time to make a serious video about it! Join me for some positives, negatives, and a ton of questions addressed in this special episode about one of my favorite and most iconic watches of all time, and one that will always be in my personal collection.
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Tudor is now what Rolex was.
Rolex is now luxury watch at those price points and Tudor is the appropriately valued quality tool watch.
...yup, kinda funny how that works. Oddly enough, Seiko is trying to do the upscaling game too.
People should perhaps hoard Tudor and Sinn for future value elevation. They are both managing their brand names admirably.
@@chinaman1 yeah, in the near future oddly enough, Omega and Tudor will become the best value for money if Seiko keeps this pace up. GS will follow to I would suspect and this would be a shame.
I get what you're saying, on the other hand no professional wear a tudor as a toolwatch. They will wear a g-shock or something in that range, because mechanical watches are sadly outdated.
tijn blub lol... not outdated.. just dont want to ruin a 2-3k plus watch working.. come on now...
TGV: I'm in Reno.
My first thought: Is he heading to Area 51?
Yes ,he threw a Timex on the head of an alien.
MrXcman92 He’s heading back!
Stop being coy. Tell us what you paid for that thing dudester.
TGV staggers home, full of vodka. Then opens the fridge and remembers why he went out...
Nick Ferguson haha. Nice.
Exactly my thoughts. 😂 😂
i love this luxury watches 😘
i have review about this kind of watches too
amazing videos from cambodia 🇰🇭
Hugo ate all the groceries..blasted T.g.v. sub has been my trail ever since 007 movies.I like that 7990.a 1964 Rolex sub not in budget
We’ve all done it………right 🤣🤣
Can't wait for the knife collection video. Just yesterday I started carving a Slavic pattern into my Opinel. Great content as always!
What got me started with those Tudor references are the Rolex touches like the crown and markings. Great inspiring vid again.
The Submariner is just a Casio Duro knockoff.
Change my mind.
Taylor W. i just bought a duro this week lol
😂 my casio duro is a getting sapphire crystal and a lume.
sorry about your brain injury
Omg I wasted $10000
@@SalvaGian47 Yes, you did.
Love this Tudor... though for me, the 7928 edges it out as one of my grail watches, which your vid on that reference introduced me to. And was lovely to see the Philly waterfront and, in particular, America's most-decorated battleship, the USS New Jersey, behind your shoulder across the Delaware. As a former sailor who served aboard the New Jersey in Lebanon, my invitation is still open to provide you a free tour throughout the entire battleship as only a former crew-member can provide (we're able to go to all the off-limits areas no tourists ever get to see, personally accompanied by one of the battleship's volunteer caretakers, the hardworking docents). Keep up the great work providing such fabulous vids for us to enjoy!
Served aboard an Arleigh Burke class destroyer, and I had the privilege of seeing the Iowa as she was towed down to long Beach harbor. It was a foggy morning and as you picked out her haze gray profile, her guns and how she rode in the drink, I felt awestruck. Awesome, in the truest sense of the word, not the so cal surfer from the sixty's awesome, but a terrible majesty. I loved my ship, and I'm a small boy guy through and through but, you were truly privileged to have served aboard a ship that is a living symbol of American power at its zenith.
Another fantastically written and executed video featuring such a fabulous Tudor timepiece. The video was made all the more special for me, at least, for also briefly featuring the Battleship USS New Jersey (aboard which I once served) at timeframe 17:25. Thank you again for yet another stellar video.
TGV, this video made me smile. I could hear the happiness of a true enthusiast taking joy in a watch. Congratulations!
My only advice is that you’ll probably regret selling your 30th’s Submariner, since it represents an important turning point of your life as a first grail before your RUclips career. It’s your watch and your decision, but that’s my two pence.
I have regretted every watch I sold :/
I personally don't think the sentimental value matters as much when you wear a lot of watches
TGV: Please keep up the good work. You got me into the watch hobby and interested in horology in general. I thank you for your time and effort.
Dear Tristano.I am of course watch enthusiast. My first watch was Victorinox Alpnach 🙂 I would like to tell that you opened my eyes about the watches and i am really glad what are you doing and what kind of person you are.
Unfortunatly half year ago they cut me a tumor and found melanoma cancer, now its spreads to the brain and on Monday i have a surgery and then continue my fight. If somethin will go wrong i just wanted to thank you what kind and gentleman person you are and that you changed my view on watches. Please send me a lot of positive energy on Monday. Thank you bless you🙏🙏🙏
Hey Jakub,
Good luck and get well soon.
Will be sending you positive energy and vibes brother!
Take care!
@@terrytong9251 thank youu
@@terrytong9251 Thank you brother
Loved it, TGV! So glad you found the one you wanted! Tipsy TGV is great btw! 😂
Haha! - “The sub says we’ve got enough time, so let’s grab some vodka!”
Would love to see a Hunter S. inspired intro for the upcoming Reno video!
Great review, here. Thx as always.
Lived in Reno for years , now Statline,NV , The old saying about Reno "Reno is so close to hell you can see Sparks" reference to Sparks , NV. Great review , miss the acrylic crystals a lot.
Great taste in knives!
I just re-bought my own Kershaw Leek from when I lost it as a summer camp counselor 6 years ago. A piece of me has definitely returned.
Love the videos as always! Keep up the fantastic work TGV!
Very, very nice Tristan, congratulations on your acquisition! Looking forward to seeing more of that lovely Tudor later.
A 'gentry in a jiffy' review of the bathyscaphe? Would like to hear a little more of it.
I love the blue version of this. It‘s really beautiful.
I‘m trying to save up for a Black Bay 58 though at the moment! :)
I'm in awe of that crystal not seen one protruding like that. Enjoy it in good health sir.
Exactly like the sapphire moonwatch
Glad to hear u have the same admiration for Tudor as me! I see Tudor as my brand - one that represents me
Amazing choice on the Tudor! The Tudor 73090 Mini sub is one of my grails!
Haven’t watched one of your videos for awhile TGV, it was great to come back. That is a great timepiece, well done, nice one.
Congratulations on such a beautiful piece, Tristano! Excellent video as always. Thank you.
Glad you're back from your adventure TGV! I was having withdrawal symptoms this week!
Hey does anyone know if Skagen is a good brand because i am considering buying one of their watches (this would be my first “real watch”)
Is this brcelet correct for a prince oysterdate? I tought it came on the prince date
Love your videos TGV, and have supported your channel from the begging just want to say thank you and wish you luck in future 👍
Grazie Michele, that is one of my middle names BTW.
That makes means the world to me. I wish you all the best.
Best regards,
TGV
I suggest being extra careful picking up any papers or plastics in a park, as they may contain diseased needles.
The amount of watch lovers who are waiting for Tudor to make the Tudor Submariner again, and unfortunately I don't think they will any time soon. Tudor has invested far too much money into the Black Bay range.
its not that, imo, but the fact there is a Submariner on the market, made my Rolex. Why would Tudor try to compete it, when they got the BB and the Pelagos out there?
Their big brother would never allow its return. They can't put that name on an 'inferior' timepiece. Even if the average Rolex Sub buyer probably never heard of Tudor. It just can't happen.
Besides, Black Bay is still the Sub. Just has its own name and more distinct design attributes to separate it and have an identity. For one, I kind of prefer the look of a coined bezel.
I like the latest Tudor watches. I have a blue face Pelagos, a Pelagos LHD, and a Black Bay Chrono. I was offered the 58, but it wore too small for my bigger wrist. I was also offered the GMT but I have a Rolex GMT Master II BLNR. I just think Tudor want to make some more money from the research and development of the Black Bay range, but I do think Tudor will re-release a Tudor Submariner in the future.
@@notDonaldFagen Thanks for repeating part of what I said. Although I do think Tudor will release a 39 or 40mm sub again once they have got their money from the Black Bay research and development. I think they will release either a 39 or 40mm Sub with Snowflake hands. But it will be a bloody long time yet. They have to stick with the Black Bay for a good while yet.
@@Jack-is9sm not going to happen
Your video skills are on par with your narration. Your videos are very entertaining and dynamic showing us a little bit of your city and your watch collection. Thanks for the effort you put into presenting quality material.
I love the video. You really didn't wear your Rolex Sub so often that I wondered if you already sold it. But this video awnsers so many questions.
I really love the way you go into detail to explain your choice. One of my favourite videos done by you so far ( and I follow your channel since the early days).
I'm really chuffed to see such great content on the channel since you partnered with watchbox. It does not feel like a cop-out at all. It still feels very much authentic.
Can't wait to see you hunt for a Lange :)
Keep up the great work.
With greetings from Germany my friend.
Love the Tudor. Glad you're digging Philly TGV. You're officially a Philly Boy!
I am honored Jack, thank you my friend.
Love this place!
Best regards,
TGV
T, very informative and quality video. Superb! Best as always. Matthew
Thanks for the unboxing TGV! Funny enough, I also got the flu from a long flight back to Canada from Germany, checking out the Glashutte Watch Museum :()
Heh. Way back my father gave me a Tudor 79190 submariner. Knowing nothing about watches, my first thought was it was a fake Rolex, lol. Never kept up with the box or papers. I wore it everywhere, doing everything. It is a little banged up, runs fast, and the bracelet is pretty worn, but the lume has faded to an amazing cream color and it is still a great watch.
Great video again, TGV. I have been looking at Watchbox for my next purchase as well!
Loved it!! The music choices were fantastic! Man, that Tudor looks awesome; too bad about the lume though :-( I still do not understand why they would make a dive bezel bidirectional. Love the comment "Rolex is still my favorite brand after Seiko"! Anyway, enjoy your new Sub! Cheers!
Hi TGV, would like to ask what Harrington jacket is that one at 9:47. Does not seem to be a Baracuta (or is it?) Surprised if you are not sporting one of UKs stable garments ;)
Good video and review TGV. I appreciate the city tour and history lesson as well. Who can pass up a history lesson. I live Air Races? Especially vintage, I follow the Red Bull Air Races. I will be waiting restlessly for the video! Thank you for the honest opinion, Sir. All the best and enjoy your weekend. 🥃
Thank you Bubba, you will be pleased to know I am eating the Air Race video all weekend, it should be up next week.
Have a great one my friend.
O&U!
Best regards,
TGV
Great video as always TGV (I hardly ever watch TV now -- I'm always here). I know exactly what you mean. It's only when you have a watch actually in your hands that any preconceptions go out of the window. I recently bumped into a little 1960s Certina dress watch when I wasn't even looking. It's a minter, I got it for a song and I love it more than any of the watches I coveted for years. Keep the videos and the high production values coming. Regards from Blighty ol' chap.
Beautifull looking sub ,I was admiring the black bay 58 but this one is just as great, by the way I believe the beam is the mizzen boom
@TGV: do you think the Tudor 79190 mini sub 34mm would be too small for my 6 inch wrist?
Not at all, your wrist is like mine and you can pull it off.
It might take a while to get used to, but it can work.
Thank you, happy hunting.
Best regards,
TGV
Hey TGV, I love your videos and the effort you put into them!
I have a question regarding your Tudor Submariner.
I would be interested in acquiring one of these over a Black Bay 58 but only if I could use it for what it was originally made for, so my question is; if you could dive , can you and would you wear it diving? let alone snorkelling.
Cheers,
Chris
Hi TGV
“My Sub tells me it’s time for a drink...”.😆
Yeah, that might very well be the ultimate complication for a watch...
The growing independence of the Tudor company in terms of identity in the later years has undoubtedly made many people realize how cool the watches really are. I experience that even the watch snobs are less keen in terms of putting the Tudors downand are showing a genuine interest in them.
Not thereby said that I really listen to these people. But it kind of shows that Tudor has done the right thing...
This takes nothing away from the Rolex company. But why do we always have to choose in such a stigmatizing manner? Make your mind up, buy what you’d like to own. Considerations about price and quality is just part of the process.
Have a nice weekend and keep up the good work👍
LOL it totally would!!!!
You hit the nail on the head, on the complication and the growing coolness of Tudor, so true.
Thank you Kjeld,
Best regards,
TGV
Fun presentation thanks! I have 2 Tudors, the GMT Pepsi & the Black Bay Heritage dateless. Both with in-house 70hr power reserve.
Does it make any sense buying vintage Gruen watch for around 400-500$? Will it worth it? Thanks!
If it is in good nick and all original, deffo!
Thank you and happy hunting,
Best regards,
TGV
Guvanc Is it a Curvex? I love the long ones and especially the doctors’ versions.
Dude your passion for watches is highly contagious. Sooner or later you infect the entier world , leading to a world wide pandemic. For me and my bankaccount its already to late ! Greetings from Germany !
Love it. You're killing it, TGV! Congrats on your success
Thank you Chris, you are very kind to say.
Onwards and upwards!
Best regards,
TGV
I love that you’re a knife guy. Very unexpected from a Brit. Also, well done video and beautiful Tudor.
I’m looking into a 95 Tudor sub. The seller is listing at $3900. It seems to be in fair shape. Anyone know if this is a good price or not?
I just turned 40 and I still can't afford my grail watch. I work hard, have a degree, and still not in a better position to afford a Rolex. Not all are meant to "make it" I suppose. I will continue to do my best and work hard for my family. If I can improve my kids chances for success my work will not be in vain! Keep up the good work kind sir. Learned a lot in your videos.
I agree. As I've only been getting into watches lately, I see getting expensive watches as a choice between putting a roof over my family's head, food on the table, expenses for other things. I don't knock the watches I see these guys on RUclips getting but I guess they have other priorities.
My first Tudor exactly, bought in 93, mine had a Rolex strap. Sadly had to sell it ten years ago and recently replaced it with a Black bay 58. Though I love the bb now I will have to save up again as my itch isn’t scratched. Thanks
Hi TVG
Great video
Interested in the Tudor snowflakes
Looking forward to seeing more of your post
Man Tudor is definitely a brand not too many people know about but should be more known. I want a submariner so much, one day hopefully I will be able to get one. Wonderful video as always, I was wondering earlier today where you went, and what a way to come back.
Thank you Captain!
I know you will get it, savor the ride my friend.
That moment of sweetness will come!
Best regards,
TGV
I’m trying to get the exact one for my birth year watch, what’s the series number of this watch to make sure the production year is 1994? And where did you find this watch? Chrono?
Hi TGV, I really enjoyed this video because I too have been looking at the Tudor Submariners.
My favourite reference has to be the 7016 which features the rose logo. It's a small feature but dives more back into that history that makes it so great.
It also carries an ETA movement which gives me that confidence that it can be repaired easily. Beautiful watch and congrats on the buy
That sounds like perfection, I have never come across those, I totally get why you love it. Outstanding choice!
I see one on chrono24 and the prices are high, but understandable so.
Thank you Kevin, great suggestion.
Best regards,
TGV
Another well done and geographically traveled video. I am glad you made it onto the Moshulu. I makes my heart glad to see the old girl nicely turned out.
Thank you Robert.
So happy to hear that. Maybe see you there one day!
Have a great weekend my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
Isnt there too much patina, especially on the hands, considering the age and the water-resistance? Looks like a lot of humidity got in...
I have a Rolex 16610, a tudor 79190 and a tudor 76100. After wearing them all I have concluded the 76100 is the best sub for me. Love the bidirectional bezel, high hat plexi and matte dial. At 39mm its extremely comfortable on the wrist and the watch is deadly accurate even though it was made 1985. Its nearest comparable Rolex would be the 1680, but at a fraction of the price the 76100 is a total bargain.
I love your narration, keep up the great work!
Best half hour I’ve spent all day. Thanks for the education and inspiration.
Thank you Steve, that made my day hearing that.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Best regards,
TGV
I'm extremely intrigued to watch this!! Especially after the Rolex review recently! You loved it. On a side note, I'm off to the jewelers tomorrow to try on the Cartier tank on your recommendation TGV!
Fantastic to Simon, what a classy choice.
Have fun, enjoy.
Thank you and have a great weekend, but I know you already will.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry thank you! You too!
Hmm, the Sub I could possibly save for and not look out of place with. I too also like the understated image of Tudor. The only people who would know, are people I'd want to talk to.
Fantastic Video TGV, and congratulations on the new acquisition!! Throughly enjoyed this episode!! Maybe Tudor for me next aswell? Who knows? Anyway, continue with the great work.. it’s highly entertaining and appreciated!! BMJ ENGLAND 🏴
Thank you my friend. As a fellow Brit, I hope you do.
Happy hunting my friend, there still a ton of bargains on the used market on the classic older stuff.
Best regards,
TGV
Hello , what is the reference of the black one at 12:56 ?
thks.
find it : 25610TNL
I got a bit excited by your intro: I'm an aircraft mechanic for JetBlue! I love seeing our planes in the channels I enjoy :-)
Good to see you well! Hope everything went well on your trip.
Thank you :D
I wish you are well too.
Best regards,
TGV
Thanks for the Tudor coverage and can't wait for the Reno episode(s)!
Hi there. What music is playing in the intro?
I used to have one and bought it for $1200...now look what they go for. Oh and mine had the Rolex branded solid link bracelet. Love those tall crystals.
Reno! Nice. Practically west cost. Maybe next time you’ll stop by San Francisco/ Oaklnad. You’ll like it.
Can’t wait to see all the footage from air race.
Oh, handsome watch!
Congratulations and happy Friday! Cheers 🥂
Hey TGV huge fan! So glad I stumbled upon this video again!
I'm currently looking into a Tudor Submariner or a Mini Sub since I got a small wrist haha.
I'm a Reno native, glad you liked the air races.
13:10 If you ever get the chance, you should check out the Olympia museum. I can't recall if it is open to the public or still undergoing renovations but definitely a historic sight being on board. I can see eyeing in the background, very nice and also classic Tudor. A spot on find. Hold it dear. Excited to see the events of Reno coming up. :-)
It was a great surprise to see you aboard Moshulu, as my daughter and her husband had their wedding reception there....fantastic place....have to look into that Tudor....Irie, Ras
TGV-- Great video! Does the 79090 have an aluminum bezel just like the 75090?
Great question, some 75090 models has stainless steel inserts, but the 79090 all have aluminum,
Thank you Quincy,
Best regards,
TGV
The Leek is a superb knife, although I prefer a plain blade bc I’ve never been able to amply sharpen serrations… Thank you for the great video. The Tudor Sub is one of my grail watches.
Good evening TGV, great you made it back with a real smasher. The Tudor is a great piece, in a way it looks much more rugged and solid than its Rolex countdrpart. Enjoy this Subby.
Lovely watch, in a class of its own. Philly is something else, so much history - I must visit one of these days!
What was the pricing on this ? Always wanted a sub but since this is more affordable and has just as much history - this can be an option
Impressive diver , with all the prestige, quality, just an all around great piece that if you want it to separates you from the other Rolex owners. I really like it. Enough mediocre timepieces, just beautiful adds to a great collection.
Thanks so much sir for your perspective and one of the men who 1st introduced me to the art and everything that goes into find watch making.
Great work , I appreciate it.
It’s in great shape congrats.
Love the H.R. Giger print in the background!
Hello T, nice intro as always and also the part until white gloves. Now I will continue watching the main part. Cheers
Thank you, enjoy.
Best regards,
TGV
Well done! Enjoy it!
PS:
You forgot to do the watchbox app and in the end of the video
Can you do a video about TAG Heuer? I don’t see the brand covered a lot and I’m considering getting one. Are they worth the price?
16800 Sub is my favorite, love the matte dial and sapphire crystal, but congrats TGV!
What's the story on that little compass in your video? Very cool!
Well, 2 great uses, firstly and most obviously for basic navigation, second to check if a watch is magnetized.
Both extremely useful, I did a video on it.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Nice video! I've got a Mini Sub, and it's served me well for the past 12 years.
I love it! It's in great shape! Congrats on that piece. Not that easy to come by these days.
The Explorer 40mm is my favorite this year! The 36mm is always too small for my wrist even if the watch is meant to be that size. Thanks for your videos!
TGV, if you come back to the races next year, you should come find us in the Jet pits; South Texas Air Racing! Great video here, and I’m looking forward to the Air Race video!
I love it but always have had a hard time getting used to the crystal height
Great video. Love the comment about Seiko.Seiko is also my favorite brand. SEIKO is KING !! My grail is a Grand Seiko and probably a Quartz version. Just haven’t figured out which one yet and not ready to pull the Trigger on that expensive of a watch.Keep up the great work TGV. Cheers
You tried to change the date at 12:30? Isn't that a bit risky?
Right tgv. The time has come im getting a marathon diver i like the gsar i have wrists just a bit bigger than yours which marathon is the best option. Which is your fav cheers old boy
I recently watched Austin Powers and now when you say "yeah" I can't help but hear him. I'm a long time fan but never made that connection before.
Great film TGV, very much enjoyed. I’m pretty set on a Black Bay 58 when I can get hold of one, is that something you could review and discuss? There ere plenty of reviews out there but I would value your opinion and insight greatly. I’m hoping it will be my ‘perfect sub’. Many thanks and keep up the good work!
Wearing the Tudor on the Lorier NATO at around 12 mins :D the Nato looks super thin, is it comfy? Love the channel.