Here's a top tip from someone who has owned 5 9-3s and goes to many yards: Get a portable jump starter with a boost function, PULL THE HORN FUSE, connect to the battery leads and have someone press the boost button and be ready to hold the seat buttons forward. I've done this many times at yards. They won't let you in with a huge jump pack but you can sneak in a usb power bank. These things carry enough power to attempt both seats at a minimum.
Excellent video, I am pulling seats out of a 9-5 Aero for the wife's 9-5 wagon. Great shop setting the example with the safety gear and idea of routing the jumper cable around the back seat belt.
You guys know if you put power to the battery cables and open the door the seats get power for a few seconds you can move them back and forth i use a battery jumper not bigger than my cellphone to get my aero seats out from my local yard
Hi, your video is well done and thank you for that. However, there is a point that seems not to be clear: the process to lift verticaly the seat. If you directly power the front left motor between pins 1 and 2, it seems to be equivalent to power it undirectly between pins 12 and 17 of the PSM's plug. In this case, there is only front tilt of the seat...
Thanks for the kind words. I regret to say that I haven't looked under my seats in years and now I'm thousands of miles from the vehicle so I can't check. I don't remember there being a way to elevate all four corners of the seats, only tilt (and then of course front-back motion). Sorry I can't be of more help.
Thanks for the awesome detailed video! Immobilizer on my saab is on and I couldnt get to my bolts. The WIS has a manual way of moving the seat but u need a tool. I did this on a saab 9-3 2000 convertible. Looked at the WIS then found the motor same location (the one that moves seat back and forth) Then I traced to the front where I had an 8 pin wire. 7 and 8 were my 2 blue wires (blue and blue/white) I applied power via a battery and 2 connectors. PS where did u get those leads? I hav eleads like that but they only attach to my volt checker.
Thanks, so glad this video was of use to you (and for sharing your experience with the 9-3)! You guessed it - I took the leads from an old multimeter my father owned. I remember a reference to that tool, but I'm not sure what it looks like. Would be cool if it were easy to makeshift one.
G'day ChemistClips, i hope this comment finds you well? This was an awesome video, thank you. Very informative and clear. I know this is a really old video, but I'm hoping you might shed some light on something 9-5 related? I have a 2001 9-5 Aero - Australian release (RHD), with the elec leather seats. It has a bad TWICE, so I'm removing the seat to replace the TWICE unit. Will this process work? I'm guessing so, because it appears it bypasses the TWICE, sending power straight to the motor? Is the TWICE still under the passenger seat in USA/Canada models? I'm unsure which process to use for moving the passenger seat in Australia. Thank you in advance, and my apologies for poking super-old content. Cheers ✌🏻
I am not a Saab nor mechanic pro, but my intuition matches yours...that if you're putting power directly into the motor you're good to go. The car in this video didn't have any 12V battery under the hood and so I think it probably mimics a situation with inactive/dysfunctional twice. Yep according to my memory the twice in this car is under the seat. Good luck and I'm glad the video helped!
@chemistclips G'day mate! Thank you again, sincerely. Although you may not be a mechanic or "Saab Pro", you are indeed intelligent and rather adept at delivering clear and concise communication. If I were a betting man, I'd say you've had a university education 😊 Your advice and walkthrough in this video was profoundly helpful. I was indeed able to directly wire the LHS passenger seat motor directly from a 12v source (via 7 & 8); reversed the polarity, and got the seat fully forward to remove the rear bolts. Absolute lifesaver mate, thank you. Wishing you and yours a truly happy and safe holiday season. Cheers ✌🏻
@@mrmcbeardy9268 The university of life! Haha and also a less useful chemistry degree. So glad to be of help and really touched by your show of gratitude. I wish the same for you, happy holidays and prosperous new year!
@chemistclips Thank you so much 🙏 I sincerely hope that you do something with that chemistry degree, even if not directly. There's going to be an increased necessity for chemical engineering and other chemistry roles as this planet transitions to more and more renewable energy sources. Gas, hydrogen, solar, and battery technologies are yet to expand; but when they do, we're going to need clever people like yourself. In the meantime, take care and be well. Thank you again 💯
Awesome detail. However, this is a lot unnecessary labor to remove the seats. Have you ever noticed when you open the driver’s door that some of the electronics come to life? Without having to put the key in the ignition, some electronics (like the dome ligh) come on temporarily, and in the Saab 9-5 the seat adjustment motors receive this temporary power. So as long as you can get power to the car battery leads, just open the driver’s door and the seats will have power to them. My local junkyards do not allow batteries in the yard. I recently removed a set of 9-5 front seats from a junkyard rotting Saab corpse. I used a $40 jump starter by Schumacher, (Walmart had the best price). I connected the jump starter directly to the battery leads under the hood, worked perfectly. The Schumacher jump starter is about the size of a large cell phone, so it fits nicely in a semi-hidden zipper pouch in my backpack.
Thanks! Very good observation, and I'm sure for a lot of folks that will be the easiest way to supply power. In the comments section I made this suggestion and also mention that my engine compartment was gutted. Since I couldn't find documentation on where to connect power without the wire harness, I decided to go right to the seat connections.
@Vinny's Mom: your method is fine if you are looking to adjust longitudinal movement of the passenger seat. However, under the carpet of the driver seat is the TWICE unit. Power to the seat motors run via TWICE. If this unit has failed (as it has in my SAAB 9-5 because of a short circuit due to water) then I believe your method will not work, correct me if I am wrong. Please note the safety tips given in the video description!
Extremely well done. We're having some SAAB 9-5 power seat issues right now and this is the best information we've found. Thank you!
+SaabCrazy Glad to help, I'm glad it was of use to you!!
Here's a top tip from someone who has owned 5 9-3s and goes to many yards: Get a portable jump starter with a boost function, PULL THE HORN FUSE, connect to the battery leads and have someone press the boost button and be ready to hold the seat buttons forward. I've done this many times at yards. They won't let you in with a huge jump pack but you can sneak in a usb power bank. These things carry enough power to attempt both seats at a minimum.
Excellent video, I am pulling seats out of a 9-5 Aero for the wife's 9-5 wagon. Great shop setting the example with the safety gear and idea of routing the jumper cable around the back seat belt.
Glad to be of help! Life would've been easier if I used a portable jump pack or maybe even a power tool battery :D
Just what I was searching for, many thanks.
Glad it was useful! Gotta keep our ageing fleet of Saabs tip top!
You guys know if you put power to the battery cables and open the door the seats get power for a few seconds you can move them back and forth i use a battery jumper not bigger than my cellphone to get my aero seats out from my local yard
Fantastic! New to me car has a bad seat ECM. I was able to adjust all positions by using the tips and wiring diagram. Thanks!
Hi, your video is well done and thank you for that. However, there is a point that seems not to be clear: the process to lift verticaly the seat. If you directly power the front left motor between pins 1 and 2, it seems to be equivalent to power it undirectly between pins 12 and 17 of the PSM's plug. In this case, there is only front tilt of the seat...
Thanks for the kind words. I regret to say that I haven't looked under my seats in years and now I'm thousands of miles from the vehicle so I can't check. I don't remember there being a way to elevate all four corners of the seats, only tilt (and then of course front-back motion). Sorry I can't be of more help.
Thanks for the awesome detailed video! Immobilizer on my saab is on and I couldnt get to my bolts. The WIS has a manual way of moving the seat but u need a tool. I did this on a saab 9-3 2000 convertible. Looked at the WIS then found the motor same location (the one that moves seat back and forth) Then I traced to the front where I had an 8 pin wire. 7 and 8 were my 2 blue wires (blue and blue/white) I applied power via a battery and 2 connectors. PS where did u get those leads? I hav eleads like that but they only attach to my volt checker.
Thanks, so glad this video was of use to you (and for sharing your experience with the 9-3)! You guessed it - I took the leads from an old multimeter my father owned. I remember a reference to that tool, but I'm not sure what it looks like. Would be cool if it were easy to makeshift one.
Nice job man...thanks!
Rick S how do you turn on the heated seats
Do you know if the removal of the power seats give cel?
Hey! Cel? Sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking.
@@chemistclips Check engine
@@saaber95 Sorry I don't. Battery was already out of this car when I did the work in the video.
G'day ChemistClips, i hope this comment finds you well? This was an awesome video, thank you. Very informative and clear. I know this is a really old video, but I'm hoping you might shed some light on something 9-5 related? I have a 2001 9-5 Aero - Australian release (RHD), with the elec leather seats. It has a bad TWICE, so I'm removing the seat to replace the TWICE unit. Will this process work? I'm guessing so, because it appears it bypasses the TWICE, sending power straight to the motor? Is the TWICE still under the passenger seat in USA/Canada models? I'm unsure which process to use for moving the passenger seat in Australia. Thank you in advance, and my apologies for poking super-old content. Cheers ✌🏻
I am not a Saab nor mechanic pro, but my intuition matches yours...that if you're putting power directly into the motor you're good to go. The car in this video didn't have any 12V battery under the hood and so I think it probably mimics a situation with inactive/dysfunctional twice. Yep according to my memory the twice in this car is under the seat. Good luck and I'm glad the video helped!
@chemistclips G'day mate! Thank you again, sincerely. Although you may not be a mechanic or "Saab Pro", you are indeed intelligent and rather adept at delivering clear and concise communication. If I were a betting man, I'd say you've had a university education 😊
Your advice and walkthrough in this video was profoundly helpful. I was indeed able to directly wire the LHS passenger seat motor directly from a 12v source (via 7 & 8); reversed the polarity, and got the seat fully forward to remove the rear bolts. Absolute lifesaver mate, thank you. Wishing you and yours a truly happy and safe holiday season. Cheers ✌🏻
@@mrmcbeardy9268 The university of life! Haha and also a less useful chemistry degree. So glad to be of help and really touched by your show of gratitude. I wish the same for you, happy holidays and prosperous new year!
@chemistclips Thank you so much 🙏 I sincerely hope that you do something with that chemistry degree, even if not directly. There's going to be an increased necessity for chemical engineering and other chemistry roles as this planet transitions to more and more renewable energy sources. Gas, hydrogen, solar, and battery technologies are yet to expand; but when they do, we're going to need clever people like yourself. In the meantime, take care and be well. Thank you again 💯
good video this helped me out thanks!
glad to be of service!
Awesome detail. However, this is a lot unnecessary labor to remove the seats. Have you ever noticed when you open the driver’s door that some of the electronics come to life? Without having to put the key in the ignition, some electronics (like the dome ligh) come on temporarily, and in the Saab 9-5 the seat adjustment motors receive this temporary power. So as long as you can get power to the car battery leads, just open the driver’s door and the seats will have power to them.
My local junkyards do not allow batteries in the yard. I recently removed a set of 9-5 front seats from a junkyard rotting Saab corpse. I used a $40 jump starter by Schumacher, (Walmart had the best price). I connected the jump starter directly to the battery leads under the hood, worked perfectly. The Schumacher jump starter is about the size of a large cell phone, so it fits nicely in a semi-hidden zipper pouch in my backpack.
Thanks! Very good observation, and I'm sure for a lot of folks that will be the easiest way to supply power. In the comments section I made this suggestion and also mention that my engine compartment was gutted. Since I couldn't find documentation on where to connect power without the wire harness, I decided to go right to the seat connections.
Do you need to unlock the door with remote control, or is it enough if u just open it
@Vinny's Mom: your method is fine if you are looking to adjust longitudinal movement of the passenger seat. However, under the carpet of the driver seat is the TWICE unit. Power to the seat motors run via TWICE. If this unit has failed (as it has in my SAAB 9-5 because of a short circuit due to water) then I believe your method will not work, correct me if I am wrong. Please note the safety tips given in the video description!
will the saab seat fit the saturn l series since is the same platform...