Use a Checklist man...a physical checklist no matter how many hours/experience one has in a ship or any aircraft for that matter. Appreciate the time spent on the video though - cool stuff. Thank you. Just can’t stress the need enough for a physical checklist.
Military helo pilots in my part of the world are expected to have the checklist committed to memory, and I don't think it's that absurd of an expectation, especially for a simpler machine like a 206. That said, we run through it word-for-word, not quite so casually. We're definitely expected to know that rotor turn by 25% N1 rule without question or hesitation....
I was a crewchief on the military version of this acft in the mid 1980's, the OH-58A. Love the sound and feel of these birds! Thanks for sharing, M, & CJ.
Sound track 1: Air Wolf theme. Sound track 2: Flight of the Valkyries. Double check. JAFO helmet on! Mother-in-law getting blown away from the rotor wash. Priceless!
That takes me back. I flew a 206 in the mid 70's. It was not a ranger 3, and there was there was a sound which is missing in this video. There was a low sound which kicked in as the clutch engaged. I always thought of it as the sound of the dragon waking up. My bird was coming to life. I miss November five niner four four two. The pilot who flew it after I left caught the skid on a guy wire and crashed it. It was determined that he had been drinking. His passenger was injured, but he was in the process of landing at a rural hospital when he crashed it, so she was right where she needed to be. The guy was also a CFI, and it boggles my mind that a CFI would do such a thing. My CFI beat it into me that you don't fly if you are impaired in any way, or may become impaired in any way. When I became a CFI I beat that into my students too. I thought most CFI's did that, but I guess that guy couldn't take his own advice.
It's a shame when a machine we used to fly goes away. I used to fly a Piper Archer, end it caught fire just after landing. Short circuit behind the instrument panel. The pilot and his passengers were uninjured, but PT-NZP was destroyed. As for the CFI been drinking prior to flying, un-freakin believable. Some people seem to think bad things will never happen to them, that they are somehow above us mere mortals who abide by the rules.
My dad was chief engineer for un helicopters, we used to get this beauty come to our school in the 80s I used to fly in her every week she is up there with Concorde DC10 and 747
Again, thank YOU for telling me about the problem. I didn't watch the whole thing on RUclips and didn't realize there was a problem until you pointed it out.
Now that was neat! My biggest problem was watching the dual analog gauges. 😳🤔 I guess over time you would get use to it. 🤪 I was also surprised how the torque meter jumped when he went 100% I'm going to have to watch it again. 🤔😊
Some suggestions for the next start: Full freedom of movement check of the flights controls. Full range check of the throttle. Landing lights off and I personally prefer starting with just one fuel pump on in order to reduce battery drain, but that's just a personal preference. The 206 is as reliable as they come. Fifty plus years of faithful service.
Yes, I was taught to use a single boost pump. Especially on one of those 8000' DA days in Johannesburg! Also, strap in BEFORE start. Beep the Governor down for 3 secs. Open throttle fully and close thru cut-off. Make sure in idle cut-off. Bendix FCU open to idle and be ready to cut off if anything untoward. CECO FCU open to light off and modulate TOT without going thru the gate. As you pass 50% you can open to idle. Release starter at 58% I've always taken the N1 as high as it will go before light off. Helps keep the TOT spike down, especially on a hammered engine! Cheers!
I didn't look at every comment to see if this point was already raised, but unless I am missing something, it looked like a couple start-up steps were skipped. The first one I noticed was the lack of checking the controls for proper movement (then hydraulic checks after start-up). I also noticed that the throttle position check (rotate stop to full to idle, then back to stop) wasn't done. After start-up, I didn't see the clutch check done (break the needles by backing off throttle briefly, then back to full throttle while joining the needles). I am not a pilot, and this observation is based entirely on having watched many other Jetranger start-up vids. If I am missing something about this particular model variant, I'm open to more education.
He did a much more streamlined startup for my audience, which is why he may have missed a few steps you've seen elsewhere. He did not fly after this startup. Instead, he just shut down.
i am in omak i just boight a 206b3 i like your videos. been a few years since i have flown one. i hope i remember how to fly it.a bit different than my maule mx7. and my 170 cessna, id stay out of my way after i get it airbourne. if i remember
Yes! He did say it was registered in Europe before it came back to the U.S. I thought he said Denmark, but I (or he) could be wrong. That color is very unusual.
Thank you for sharing. I believe in a helicopter you should strap yourself in first. If the tail rotor should break or something gives in the rotor system you would not believe the forces that the pilot could be subjected to.
I'm curious how the cost compares with an R44. I guess it burns more fuel, but Jet A is cheaper than Avgas. Turbines are more reliable with longer interval between overhauls, but that overhaul is going to be more expensive.
Cherries are $3.99 per pound normal price and occasionally drop to $1.99 per pound when on sale in the San Francisco Bay Area. I'm eating at least 1/2 - 1 pound per day. Going to miss them in a month or two.
Why is it seemingly such a complicated procedure to start up an aircraft? Is it not possible to simply hit a start button and a computer controlled programmable starts up the aircraft taking into account all the variables?
Good catch! It was registered in Europe before it returned to the US. Another viewer recognized it as a Swedish ship he knew! Small world, huh? It's that color. Very unusual.
A "fun" fact about cherries! It seems there is enough arsenic in two ground up cherry pits to kill a grown man!! Luckily, the cherries are just fine which is a good thing because I LOVE THEM!! (P..S. Don't relate this info to anyone who is mentioned in your will....Lol)
Nowadays these steps seem to have been more failsafe and automatized. Switcht power on push a button or two and engine is starting. No watching for this, be ready for that and waiting for another, while being ready for next which could go wrong, until you have reached the 6th. Why no automatic fuel injection or shut off when the engine reaches certain values? But it's the same with cars.
Really? That's your only reason to want a helicopter? To be a nuisance to your neighbors? Think about that for a while; maybe you'll come up with a few reasons why that's a crappy attitude. 🙄
@@FlyingMAir lol ok. I was kidding!! In reality I hate using my leaf blower too often but as it stands showing off the turbo shaft noise would be the only thing I could do right now. I love the 206 design, always have.
I have never piloted a helicopter. I saw a video of a young man get killed when the tail rotor separated from its fitting, and he was not strapped in. He was thrown forward very quickly. His head was slammed into the forward frame and is neck was probably broken as a result. You can see this video on you tube, type in: School dropout trying to build low cost chopper dies after being hit by rotor blade during trial. I guess my comment could be perceived as sanctimonious, I apologize for that. Perhaps one thing we can do to try and stay alive is to know when to set aside a little pride and learn from someone else no matter how me might initially perceive them.
I believe that was a startup company in a poor country trying to make helicopters more affordable. Unfortunately he lost his life trying to achieve his dreams. Aerospace engineering isnt easy and thats way so many aircraft have to be tested and re tested especially if its a new design.
God I love the sound of a jet turbine winding up! To me it just embodies the presence of RAW POWER!!
Ditto 👍
There's a guy who does an MD-500 startup. Made the perfect ring tone for my phone! ruclips.net/video/bE56Nf6lsSQ/видео.html
Great memories as a child. I always knew I had to be quiet during startup when dad was starting his jet ranger.
Use a Checklist man...a physical checklist no matter how many hours/experience one has in a ship or any aircraft for that matter. Appreciate the time spent on the video though - cool stuff. Thank you. Just can’t stress the need enough for a physical checklist.
Well said Tom .. Checklist Checklist Checklist !!. 👍
Military helo pilots in my part of the world are expected to have the checklist committed to memory, and I don't think it's that absurd of an expectation, especially for a simpler machine like a 206. That said, we run through it word-for-word, not quite so casually. We're definitely expected to know that rotor turn by 25% N1 rule without question or hesitation....
Some people learn this the hard way (like me)
Thanks Maria, a Jet Ranger starting up is in my opinion one of the most beautiful sounds in the world.
Gerben it’s not just your opinion, it’s a fact, this is the sound of a turbine singing you the song of it’s people, it’s a beautiful thing 👍🏼
That and a 747 100 or DC 10
I was a crewchief on the military version of this acft in the mid 1980's, the OH-58A. Love the sound and feel of these birds! Thanks for sharing, M, & CJ.
Got i love the sound of a Jet starting up. Ive always loved the 206.
Awesome 747 with the flap transducer installed next to the flux capacitor. Sweet afterburners on that turboprop, too!
It's a quality turboencabulator that gives you that sweet sound. Sure, you don't need it to fly, but are you really flying if you don't have one?
That was pretty cool watching the start up procedure. Thank you for giving us a good view of the gauges.
I just would have liked a glimpse of both oil pressure gauges - the top one is supposed to have an indication even before light-off.
Sound track 1: Air Wolf theme. Sound track 2: Flight of the Valkyries. Double check. JAFO helmet on! Mother-in-law getting blown away from the rotor wash. Priceless!
That takes me back. I flew a 206 in the mid 70's. It was not a ranger 3, and there was there was a sound which is missing in this video. There was a low sound which kicked in as the clutch engaged. I always thought of it as the sound of the dragon waking up. My bird was coming to life. I miss November five niner four four two. The pilot who flew it after I left caught the skid on a guy wire and crashed it. It was determined that he had been drinking. His passenger was injured, but he was in the process of landing at a rural hospital when he crashed it, so she was right where she needed to be. The guy was also a CFI, and it boggles my mind that a CFI would do such a thing. My CFI beat it into me that you don't fly if you are impaired in any way, or may become impaired in any way. When I became a CFI I beat that into my students too. I thought most CFI's did that, but I guess that guy couldn't take his own advice.
It's a shame when a machine we used to fly goes away. I used to fly a Piper Archer, end it caught fire just after landing. Short circuit behind the instrument panel. The pilot and his passengers were uninjured, but PT-NZP was destroyed. As for the CFI been drinking prior to flying, un-freakin believable. Some people seem to think bad things will never happen to them, that they are somehow above us mere mortals who abide by the rules.
Been a little while since I flew a 206, I miss them so much 😢
Same here.
Fascinating!
Awsome to see that old Japanese police heli. Used to fly that bird when she lived in Sweden
Gotta love the sound of that turbine engine! 😁
My dad was chief engineer for un helicopters, we used to get this beauty come to our school in the 80s I used to fly in her every week she is up there with Concorde DC10 and 747
I absolutely adore the start up sound of the JetRanger- first helicopter I’ve flown in too! CJ is very cool 😎 Awesome video
the mavrick
Awesome cool, nice gauge cluster
Woah awesome, can't beat that startup sound! That livery looks like it used be a former Japanese Police operated helicopter!
Agreed. I love the sound a turbine helicopter makes at startup. And the smell! JetA!
Speechless!!!!
Thank you 😊😊😊😌
Again, thank YOU for telling me about the problem. I didn't watch the whole thing on RUclips and didn't realize there was a problem until you pointed it out.
@@FlyingMAir You're welcome! Have a nice day 😊
@@FlyingMAir What problem?
Super nice video! Informative and smooth and just such an incredible machine.
Awsome sound
This was great Maria - thank you.
I love the sound of a turbine in the morning! 👍
Very cool. 😎
Thanks 👍🏼
Now that was neat! My biggest problem was watching the dual analog gauges. 😳🤔 I guess over time you would get use to it. 🤪 I was also surprised how the torque meter jumped when he went 100% I'm going to have to watch it again. 🤔😊
Best detailed start up video ever this was great.
Maybe make a few of videos about hovering the jet ranger and flying would be great too
I use the same GPS. It is a great little portable unit...good to know it can take the punishment a helicopter puts out.
Nice vid 👍
Some suggestions for the next start: Full freedom of movement check of the flights controls. Full range check of the throttle. Landing lights off and I personally prefer starting with just one fuel pump on in order to reduce battery drain, but that's just a personal preference. The 206 is as reliable as they come. Fifty plus years of faithful service.
Yes, I was taught to use a single boost pump. Especially on one of those 8000' DA days in Johannesburg!
Also, strap in BEFORE start. Beep the Governor down for 3 secs. Open throttle fully and close thru cut-off. Make sure in idle cut-off.
Bendix FCU open to idle and be ready to cut off if anything untoward.
CECO FCU open to light off and modulate TOT without going thru the gate. As you pass 50% you can open to idle.
Release starter at 58%
I've always taken the N1 as high as it will go before light off. Helps keep the TOT spike down, especially on a hammered engine!
Cheers!
Awesome!!
Great video!
I didn't look at every comment to see if this point was already raised, but unless I am missing something, it looked like a couple start-up steps were skipped. The first one I noticed was the lack of checking the controls for proper movement (then hydraulic checks after start-up). I also noticed that the throttle position check (rotate stop to full to idle, then back to stop) wasn't done. After start-up, I didn't see the clutch check done (break the needles by backing off throttle briefly, then back to full throttle while joining the needles). I am not a pilot, and this observation is based entirely on having watched many other Jetranger start-up vids. If I am missing something about this particular model variant, I'm open to more education.
He did a much more streamlined startup for my audience, which is why he may have missed a few steps you've seen elsewhere. He did not fly after this startup. Instead, he just shut down.
Nice don't need the cart to start it😊👍
i am in omak i just boight a 206b3 i like your videos. been a few years since i have flown one. i hope i remember how to fly it.a bit different than my maule mx7. and my 170 cessna, id stay out of my way after i get it airbourne. if i remember
very interesting.
Awesome video. Cheers
My left ear enjoyed this. My right ear said "FU!" 😁
How about the difference between the Bell Jet Ranger and your Robinson R44 as far as drying time, speed while drying, etc?
Comparable, I'd say. Some folks say the JetRanger pushes more air, but I don't think there's a noticeable difference.
Got to be a former 206 on Swedish registration right? The fuel conversion table gives it away...! Dont remember the SE-reg but I recognise the ship!
Yes! He did say it was registered in Europe before it came back to the U.S. I thought he said Denmark, but I (or he) could be wrong. That color is very unusual.
Very cool M. Didn’t you also fly a 206 in your career. Does the Bell have a greater downdraft then your Raven II, when it comes to drying cherries.
I flew Bell 206L helicopters (LongRangers) at the Grand Canyon in 2004. The JetRanger’s downwash is comparable to the R44’s.
What are those blank metal squares on the dashboard covering up or replacingbeteen the big gauges?
I have a factory installed Gas Producer too!
Thank you for sharing. I believe in a helicopter you should strap yourself in first. If the tail rotor should break or something gives in the rotor system you would not believe the forces that the pilot could be subjected to.
How long have you been flying helicopters, Bill?
How many hours do you typically need to get into a Turbine Helicopter?
You can fly one as early as a student pilot. Once you have a private or commercial rating, you can take a short turbine transition class.
I'm curious how the cost compares with an R44. I guess it burns more fuel, but Jet A is cheaper than Avgas. Turbines are more reliable with longer interval between overhauls, but that overhaul is going to be more expensive.
Fuel burn is only a tiny part of the cost of flying.
@@FlyingMAir Yea, I saw your costs livestream, scary numbers!
Yo I fly that yesterday I get to have it for ever I will try it today again
That's a beautiful bird! Didn't you fly these in AZ, Maria?
I flew Bell 206L helicopters (LongRangers) at the Grand Canyon in 2004. The JetRanger is slightly smaller.
Awesome heli but what's up with the missing gauges?
Checklist?
What three gauges are missing?
Wow joy of flying ......gas turbine rew my heart ....that ear defning raw shaft power
Is it feasible to fly jet turbine helicopters for drying cherries? I would have guessed it to be too expensive.
It apparently is because I’d estimate that half the helicopters doing it are turbines.
@@FlyingMAir Interesting.
Cherries are $3.99 per pound normal price and occasionally drop to $1.99 per pound when on sale in the San Francisco Bay Area. I'm eating at least 1/2 - 1 pound per day. Going to miss them in a month or two.
Why is it seemingly such a complicated procedure to start up an aircraft? Is it not possible to simply hit a start button and a computer controlled programmable starts up the aircraft taking into account all the variables?
Good question! But this helicopter is from the 1970s.
What is that whit paper looking chart for at about the 5 o'clock possision to the test liver on the control panal
Good catch! It was registered in Europe before it returned to the US. Another viewer recognized it as a Swedish ship he knew! Small world, huh? It's that color. Very unusual.
It doesn’t need a key right
How much does he need to charge per hour to make a profit?
A "fun" fact about cherries! It seems there is enough arsenic in two ground up cherry pits to kill a grown man!! Luckily, the cherries are just fine which is a good thing because I LOVE THEM!! (P..S. Don't relate this info to anyone who is mentioned in your will....Lol)
I couldn't get the video to play audio at all. 🤷♂️
well 206 is put away for good. but the new bell 505 gonna buzz you soon lol
No sound on this after first few seconds
Audio is in one channel only. I think it's the left. A lot of people commented on this. Make sure both speakers are turned on.
Muito bom.. Brasil
3:30 is my pc when I strt warzone
Where's the fortunate son button?
The audio on this video is terrible, on stereo speakers his voice is only coming out of the left speaker and is quiet and mumbly.
I know it all comes down to money, but if given the choice, I would rather fly a eurocopter H125/AS350/Astar---3 blade rotor plus fadec start system.
Sound is great and explanation good - camera angle sadly not. Better sit backside and record the pilots hands in combination with the instruments
Nowadays these steps seem to have been more failsafe and automatized. Switcht power on push a button or two and engine is starting. No watching for this, be ready for that and waiting for another, while being ready for next which could go wrong, until you have reached the 6th. Why no automatic fuel injection or shut off when the engine reaches certain values? But it's the same with cars.
I wish I had one of these in my backyard to disturb the neighbours with.
Really? That's your only reason to want a helicopter? To be a nuisance to your neighbors? Think about that for a while; maybe you'll come up with a few reasons why that's a crappy attitude. 🙄
@@FlyingMAir lol ok. I was kidding!!
In reality I hate using my leaf blower too often but as it stands showing off the turbo shaft noise would be the only thing I could do right now.
I love the 206 design, always have.
American pride bell 206
I have never piloted a helicopter. I saw a video of a young man get killed when the tail rotor separated from its fitting, and he was not strapped in. He was thrown forward very quickly. His head was slammed into the forward frame and is neck was probably broken as a result. You can see this video on you tube, type in: School dropout trying to build low cost chopper dies after being hit by rotor blade during trial. I guess my comment could be perceived as sanctimonious, I apologize for that. Perhaps one thing we can do to try and stay alive is to know when to set aside a little pride and learn from someone else no matter how me might initially perceive them.
I believe that was a startup company in a poor country trying to make helicopters more affordable. Unfortunately he lost his life trying to achieve his dreams. Aerospace engineering isnt easy and thats way so many aircraft have to be tested and re tested especially if its a new design.
If you figure $1,000 per hour to operate, that's about $16.50 per minute.
Audio NOT well thought out 🤔
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Right ear is lonely in this video
Shity microphone... sounds awful