As a heroin addict it’s always nice to see something like that brought into comics to be instilled into kids that it can happen to anyone, and it’s much easier to wind up an addict than you think. And before people start up on me, no I’m not currently using, but once you’re an addict, you’re always an addict. And as far as him being edgy is dumb, but the not knowing how to be happy couldn’t be any more accurate for an addict than that.
I just hope we don't get a new season of Young Justice because that's SOMEHOW the only adaptation i've seen that lets this poor man retire and raise his daughter :( and now I NEED a Arsenal sitcom, like what his solo run had but less serious
@@mostafamd2144 then I hope they just leave him alone, and keep him as a cameo or something (also no hate to Young Justice, it's just that they're setting up the heroes in crisis storyline and yk Roy/Will gets done very, very dirty)
Season 3 was REALLY good IMO. Season 4 was really mid. Not gonna say I wasn't crying at the thought of Connor being dead. I was. But half the episodes were functionally filler. Which was disappointing since you could tell by the slashed budget and the unconfirmed season 5 that the show was about to be canceled again without tying up plot threads (from season 2).
@@Jean-Paul-Lane-Valley Yeah, New Gods can be very overwhelming. They're setting is so extraterrestrial and the stakes só Grand, it's hard to get into it at first. Young Justice helped bridge that gap for me.
Since becoming a GA fan Roy quickly became a favourite character of mine but even I didn't know just how much he's been through. Please leave him alone DC
Ok, I will assume Donna's "sorry Roy, but I can't be with a redhead cause something bad will happen" is some sort of retcon years later, cause MAN does this not make sense in the context. Cause she didn't want to marry Roy because of the vision... but she was totally ok marrying the another redhead later on. Like, if it was meant to recontexulised Terry's death than it's a rather stupid one.
I personally like the idea of him having a clone or another version of himself that all the bad shit can happen to and become arsenal like how they did in young justice, so a positive red arrow can live out his happy life while an the angsty arsenel can be it's own character.
The Young Justice universe is usually better structured than the regular universe. They have the advantage of hindsight and planning, but that's not stopping DC from taking elements of those adaptation into the books.
A book focusing on Lian like Geoff Johns' Stargirl run I think would do Roy so well. My goat's suffered so much yet still isn't appreciated by DC as much as he should be
Some correction: Arsenal is his true Codename. Also Donna bit of wanting "not being perfect" stand because Donna was erased from continuity and recreated by Wally West's Memories. Exept Wally made Donna Troy without flaws. Which made Donna question her own existente and deal with thing She wasn't ready to deal or couldn't. Arsenal tells her that Wally doesn't her and Roy might get close to the real Donna because Donna and Roy had always been there for each other.
Yeah I'd like to see Roy have a nice status quo for the next five ish years. He should be a supporting character to a Lian solo. Your quick edits are funny af btw nice vid.
This video doesn't mention what's happened to him since Dc's ALL IN initiative started. He's joined the Titans and is now a part of Justice League Unlimited.
It's been forever since I've read the Arsenal miniseries, as I was in middle school at the time, but I always remembered liking it and his depiction in Young Justice and wished he had more solo comics.
I really hate what the New 52 did to Roy. One would think the reboot would undo the edgyness done in Cry for Justice and Rise of Arsenal, but instead it just cemented it as a core part of his character... All to keep pace with Red Hood... So lame but such a DC thing to radically alter a character tie him with a Batman adjacent.
One thing I enjoy is that we constantly see Dick and Wally being sheltered to an extent and Roy finally found a Robin that understood personally more than what it’s like to see a tragedy or lose a parent but to grow up alone and turning to substance
Can’t wait for your video on Donna Troy. Funny you mentioned redheads. Because in Titans by Dan Abnett Where Donna falls for Wally West because he was miserable of losing his family and having Pacemaker after Lazurus Contract. Guess Wolverine is not the only comic character that digs redheads. Artemis(the Amazonian from Bana-Mighdall) also is a redhead that destined to died. Remember Hippolyta, the mother of Wonder Woman, set up Artemis to become Wonder Woman so she can died in Diana’s place? 6:27 Jeremy Adams revived Donna’s son, Robert in his Flash Run. Robert was kidnapped by Granny Goddess, along with Mr. Terrific’s son and Aqualad/Tempest’s Son. I do wonder if Jeremy Adams can explain how Robert was a Black Lantern and revived later while his dad is still dead. Also I would like to see Donna Troy bonding with her own son. Really rare to see a Mother and Son superhero dynamic. If Wild Robot can make a Bond between Mother and Son can work so can DC Comic. Just don’t let Tom King anywhere near Robert. Remember Tom King is writer who made Mr. Terrific say “I am happy my wife and Son died, in Strange Adventures. Tom King already killed off Steve Trevor, for cheap shocks and misery. Also creation of Trinity. A character i don’t like. 7:20 Aw that hurts. There a lot of good comics that got cancelled due low sales. I wish Sam Humphries’ run on Weirdworld wasn’t cancelled. Even Nova(Sam Alexander) comic got cancelled. He been sidelined for 7 years. Even Yara Flor. I did bought Joëlle Jones’ Yara Flor comics but it got cancelled. 9:54 If only Flashpoint/New 52 never happened. Because I feel like The Titans would be earth’s protectors over a decade ago. But not it happened too late and written by Tom Taylor. 12:07 And Joker’s Daughter. 13:06 Thanks to Jeremy Adams, The Goat. 13:12 You know, as I read Adam Glass’ run of Teen Titans, the thing what Tom King done to Alfred and Nightwing did effective Damian in Teen Titans. But when Tom King made Wally West a mass murderer it only affects Barry and Iris, but not his young cousin, Wallace. Seriously Wallace never bring up his cousin is a murderer it in Adam glass’ run. Aside Wallace relationship with Oliver’s sister, Adam Glass Wasted so much story potential for Wallace. 13:30 Does that means Cyborg remembers Teen Titans East and The Trigon attack? Son of Vulcan(Mikey Devante) and Power Boy were not there, yet they are still alive thank to DC universe reboot. What about Freddy Freeman? He definitely was there since he(and Christopher Freeman/Kid Eternity) kept their new 52 continuities. 13:39 Lian had amnesia and she was Catwoman’s Sidekick in Ram V’s run. 14:08 Let’s pray Roy won’t be in Tom King’s Black Canary. 15:07 So basically Batman Wayne family adventure but with Green Arrow characters. Okay I am game. I would to see Red Canary and Sideways to be great friends.
Wowwwww dana knew she couldn't marry a red head because they could die horribly marrys anyway even tho they could die horribly ain't she silly billy hahaha
I read his character biography and stuff for coming up with alternate green arrow stuff and man... Cry for Justice hurts Thanks for the recap of his history. I would love ur story quite a bit heh. Tho I would be fine if they decided to make him suffer but this time it was through his daughter addiction cause its pretty genetic. not happy but acceptable story
Sad to say DC can destroy so.may good titles. Just.throw it on the wall and print the mess. Miss the old days when Bad guys loose and Good Guy overcome and Win.
Mannnnn you'll get your roy sitcom when we get a spider-man and his amazing friends sitcom Peter parker:aunt may why are you doing pushups Aunt may:what chump don't think i can't go above 100 Bobby:omg aunt may you barely even got passed 2 Aunt may:why you yeah I'll stop Peter parker:now i must go I'm late for my job Dr doom:heyyy everybody Audience cheers Peter parker:man get out of the way Dr doom:wooo doom was fast once before the wet stare fall incident of 09 any way i got cookies Intro drops
It all started when this man took heroine
yeah, I remember my first heroine. I'm pretty sure it was Princes Leia.
For me it was Tali from mass effect.
@@brianwalsh1339 Tali is too pure
Do not do drugs kids 😉
KOTOR 2 Visas Marr. Man, you never get over that first hit
As a heroin addict it’s always nice to see something like that brought into comics to be instilled into kids that it can happen to anyone, and it’s much easier to wind up an addict than you think. And before people start up on me, no I’m not currently using, but once you’re an addict, you’re always an addict. And as far as him being edgy is dumb, but the not knowing how to be happy couldn’t be any more accurate for an addict than that.
Keep on fighting, brother. I believe in you.
@ Appreciate that my friend. 👍
I just hope we don't get a new season of Young Justice because that's SOMEHOW the only adaptation i've seen that lets this poor man retire and raise his daughter :( and now I NEED a Arsenal sitcom, like what his solo run had but less serious
Pretty sure it’s been green lit for 5th season very recently
@@mostafamd2144 then I hope they just leave him alone, and keep him as a cameo or something (also no hate to Young Justice, it's just that they're setting up the heroes in crisis storyline and yk Roy/Will gets done very, very dirty)
I refuse to believe the Bowhunter Security episode is the only good post-revival episode of Young Justice when the Vandal Savage episodes exist.
I love lore but they’re mostly voiced slideshows
Season 3 was REALLY good IMO.
Season 4 was really mid.
Not gonna say I wasn't crying at the thought of Connor being dead. I was. But half the episodes were functionally filler.
Which was disappointing since you could tell by the slashed budget and the unconfirmed season 5 that the show was about to be canceled again without tying up plot threads (from season 2).
the stuff may not be great, but I love it
I lover the New Gods stuff, specially seeing how DC only cares about Darkseid and the motherboxes as generic McGuffins in most adaptations.
@@Jean-Paul-Lane-Valley Yeah, New Gods can be very overwhelming. They're setting is so extraterrestrial and the stakes só Grand, it's hard to get into it at first.
Young Justice helped bridge that gap for me.
"SWEET PEANUT BUTTER THAT'S CHUNKY! My ward Speedy is a Junky!" - Green Arrow
Since becoming a GA fan Roy quickly became a favourite character of mine but even I didn't know just how much he's been through. Please leave him alone DC
Great video. As a big fan of Roy and Wally West, Heroes in Crisis hurt a lot. Thankfully they’re both better now. Gotta support my ginger boys.
I got into the character right before the New 52, so I was bummed with how he changed in outlaws.
Ok, I will assume Donna's "sorry Roy, but I can't be with a redhead cause something bad will happen" is some sort of retcon years later, cause MAN does this not make sense in the context. Cause she didn't want to marry Roy because of the vision... but she was totally ok marrying the another redhead later on. Like, if it was meant to recontexulised Terry's death than it's a rather stupid one.
I personally like the idea of him having a clone or another version of himself that all the bad shit can happen to and become arsenal like how they did in young justice, so a positive red arrow can live out his happy life while an the angsty arsenel can be it's own character.
The Young Justice universe is usually better structured than the regular universe. They have the advantage of hindsight and planning, but that's not stopping DC from taking elements of those adaptation into the books.
Young Justice sucks.
Schrodingers angst
A book focusing on Lian like Geoff Johns' Stargirl run I think would do Roy so well. My goat's suffered so much yet still isn't appreciated by DC as much as he should be
I would pay for a Roy Harper comic.
Man i love Red arrow in Young Justice
Some correction: Arsenal is his true Codename. Also Donna bit of wanting "not being perfect" stand because Donna was erased from continuity and recreated by Wally West's Memories. Exept Wally made Donna Troy without flaws. Which made Donna question her own existente and deal with thing She wasn't ready to deal or couldn't. Arsenal tells her that Wally doesn't her and Roy might get close to the real Donna because Donna and Roy had always been there for each other.
Titans rebirth is my favorite Roy. The story felt very natural. Excited to see how he is written in the new titans run!
I really like the choice of panels in this video.
Bowhunter Security went so hard.
This was such a good vid, top tier as always!
Yeah I'd like to see Roy have a nice status quo for the next five ish years. He should be a supporting character to a Lian solo.
Your quick edits are funny af btw nice vid.
Peter: first time?
5:47 imagine a what if Roy Harper taking Jason Todd under his wing
Roy Harper aka red arrow did seek redemption in my opinion which made me so happy.
This video doesn't mention what's happened to him since Dc's ALL IN initiative started. He's joined the Titans and is now a part of Justice League Unlimited.
Great recognition for a great character
Yes! Love Roy Harper so much! I embroidered his logo onto a hat!
Dope vid! Love Roy and this vid did him justice!
9:40 He also had a fling with Hawkgirl during that era.
holy shit, so he's just like Spider-man
0:36 fax my brother, spit your shit indeed
0:07 It already hooked me in to see it's a Red Arrow video, but a Kaine reference? Man, would love a video on Kaine.
amazing video my dude
10:28 my boy Prometheus strikes again LESS GOOOOO
It's been forever since I've read the Arsenal miniseries, as I was in middle school at the time, but I always remembered liking it and his depiction in Young Justice and wished he had more solo comics.
Robin:what this teams name is just superheroines like wtf nah teen titans is way better right speedy
Speedy pauses flashbacks
3:30 the Great Fraud.
I really hate what the New 52 did to Roy. One would think the reboot would undo the edgyness done in Cry for Justice and Rise of Arsenal, but instead it just cemented it as a core part of his character... All to keep pace with Red Hood... So lame but such a DC thing to radically alter a character tie him with a Batman adjacent.
One thing I enjoy is that we constantly see Dick and Wally being sheltered to an extent and Roy finally found a Robin that understood personally more than what it’s like to see a tragedy or lose a parent but to grow up alone and turning to substance
Jumpscare at 10:49
Can’t wait for your video on Donna Troy.
Funny you mentioned redheads.
Because in Titans by Dan Abnett Where Donna falls for Wally West because he was miserable of losing his family and having Pacemaker after Lazurus Contract.
Guess Wolverine is not the only comic character that digs redheads.
Artemis(the Amazonian from Bana-Mighdall) also is a redhead that destined to died. Remember Hippolyta, the mother of Wonder
Woman, set up Artemis to become Wonder Woman so she can died in Diana’s place?
6:27 Jeremy Adams revived Donna’s son, Robert in his Flash Run. Robert was kidnapped by Granny Goddess, along with Mr. Terrific’s son and Aqualad/Tempest’s Son.
I do wonder if Jeremy Adams can explain how Robert was a Black Lantern and revived later while his dad is still dead.
Also I would like to see Donna Troy bonding with her own son. Really rare to see a Mother and Son superhero dynamic.
If Wild Robot can make a Bond between Mother and Son can work so can DC Comic. Just don’t let Tom King anywhere near Robert. Remember Tom King is writer who made Mr. Terrific say “I am happy my wife and Son died, in Strange Adventures.
Tom King already killed off Steve Trevor, for cheap shocks and misery.
Also creation of Trinity. A character i don’t like.
7:20 Aw that hurts. There a lot of good comics that got cancelled due low sales. I wish Sam Humphries’ run on Weirdworld wasn’t cancelled.
Even Nova(Sam Alexander) comic got cancelled. He been sidelined for 7 years.
Even Yara Flor. I did bought Joëlle Jones’ Yara Flor comics but it got cancelled.
9:54 If only Flashpoint/New 52 never happened. Because I feel like The Titans would be earth’s protectors over a decade ago. But not it happened too late and written by Tom Taylor.
12:07 And Joker’s Daughter.
13:06 Thanks to Jeremy Adams, The Goat.
13:12 You know, as I read Adam Glass’ run of Teen Titans, the thing what Tom King done to Alfred and Nightwing did effective Damian in Teen Titans. But when Tom King made Wally West a mass murderer it only affects Barry and Iris, but not his young cousin, Wallace. Seriously Wallace never bring up his cousin is a murderer it in Adam glass’ run.
Aside Wallace relationship with Oliver’s sister, Adam Glass Wasted so much story potential for Wallace.
13:30 Does that means Cyborg remembers Teen Titans East and The Trigon attack? Son of Vulcan(Mikey Devante) and Power Boy were not there, yet they are still alive thank to DC universe reboot.
What about Freddy Freeman? He definitely was there since he(and Christopher Freeman/Kid Eternity) kept their new 52 continuities.
13:39 Lian had amnesia and she was Catwoman’s Sidekick in Ram V’s run.
14:08 Let’s pray Roy won’t be in Tom King’s Black Canary.
15:07 So basically Batman Wayne family adventure but with Green Arrow characters.
Okay I am game. I would to see Red Canary and Sideways to be great friends.
Always like character from being ..u did great job on take of him great vid keep up the great work 👍
Peter parker and roy brothers in forced comic book suffering
You not think they should have given him blonde hair and given green arrow the ginger hair 🤷♂️
I didn’t know he was Native American, also the irony of someone called Speedy doing Heroine
Wowwwww dana knew she couldn't marry a red head because they could die horribly marrys anyway even tho they could die horribly ain't she silly billy hahaha
He wasn’t the same since he met the streets😔
Speedy-Silver age Robin
Red Arrow-Red Hood
Arsenal-Winter Soldier
I've waited forever for this thank you😅
Honestly, I never liked the name Red Arrow for Roy, so I'm perfectly fine with him sticking as Arsenal
I read his character biography and stuff for coming up with alternate green arrow stuff and man...
Cry for Justice hurts
Thanks for the recap of his history. I would love ur story quite a bit heh. Tho I would be fine if they decided to make him suffer but this time it was through his daughter addiction cause its pretty genetic. not happy but acceptable story
make a video about kaine parker
0:35 Agreed
You mean Robin digievolved to nightwing
HE BACK 🎉🎉
The Navajo nation
7:12 fucking hell
Roy's lucky black manta isn't his villian, his kid would not be safe
Edit: nevermind
Its just the color red. Wear to much of it and your going to suffer
Explain to these rubies miracle man/ marvel man/ Alan Moore
My life is n.
Sad to say DC can destroy so.may good titles. Just.throw it on the wall and print the mess. Miss the old days when Bad guys loose and Good Guy overcome and Win.
Mannnnn you'll get your roy sitcom when we get a spider-man and his amazing friends sitcom
Peter parker:aunt may why are you doing pushups
Aunt may:what chump don't think i can't go above 100
Bobby:omg aunt may you barely even got passed 2
Aunt may:why you yeah I'll stop
Peter parker:now i must go I'm late for my job
Dr doom:heyyy everybody
Audience cheers
Peter parker:man get out of the way
Dr doom:wooo doom was fast once before the wet stare fall incident of 09 any way i got cookies
Intro drops
I'm disliking the video cause I can't read the text behind roy in the thumbnail
Wait Roy is Native American
No, just adopted and raised by them
He shoulda been but no
I remember slightly judging a take you had and you cried about it 😂 I dont know why you make videos, most of the crap you say ot stupid or wrong.
Aren’t you the crybaby who deleted his hate comment when other people called you out?