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  • @HH-hd7nd
    @HH-hd7nd Год назад +4

    22:35 Is it rude? She's the Slayer, her powers are strength and the ability to fight. In this constellation of attributes she's 100 % the executive force, the hand.
    25:20 The Initiative was a supersoldier program (Buffy edition). Simple as that. And just like every supersoldier program ever it got out of hand.

  • @artman2oo3
    @artman2oo3 Год назад +20

    It’s funny. Every single reactor gets to the end of this episode and they’re like…. “Wait. What is in the finale??” LOL It is the most unusual season finale out of all of them, let’s just say that.

    • @Girl4Music
      @Girl4Music Год назад +2

      Unusual is right up my alley. Words cannot describe how much I love ‘Restless’.

    • @dantheman8103
      @dantheman8103 Год назад +2

      relatable... I remember when the episode aired that was what I said.

    • @marcosnonato
      @marcosnonato Год назад

      When you give a character too much power, there are 3 alternatives: immediately afterwards say that this power puts her life at risk and she should never use it again (which happens in the next episode), turn her into a villain (Dark Willow) or put some limitation (Willow back to being good, but with fear of using magic).

    • @artman2oo3
      @artman2oo3 Год назад

      @@marcosnonato Spoilers in this comment! Hello????

  • @russellward4624
    @russellward4624 Год назад +28

    Season 4 finale is for those that love cheese. ❤️

    • @georgiacorsby5859
      @georgiacorsby5859  Год назад +5

      I do love 🧀

    • @godmagnus
      @godmagnus Год назад +2

      Zomg spoilers! Banzor!

    • @ernesthakey3396
      @ernesthakey3396 Год назад +3

      @@godmagnus I expect that by the time they edit and post an episode on YT, they've already watched, reacted, and posted the next episode on Patreon.

    • @godmagnus
      @godmagnus Год назад

      ​@@ernesthakey3396 sarcasm! Whooshes!

    • @ernesthakey3396
      @ernesthakey3396 Год назад +3

      @@godmagnus Social media really does need a sarcasm font. ;)

  • @ernesthakey3396
    @ernesthakey3396 Год назад +8

    No, Angelus was not Angel's human name. :)
    In Angel season 1, episode 15 I believe, The Prodigal, which you have already watched, we learn that his human name was Liam. When he was turned, and went back home, his little sister thoufht he was an angel returned to her from heaven, and invited him in. So he drank her, and took the latin version of angel, Angelus, as his vampire name.

  • @startingQB
    @startingQB 10 месяцев назад

    Zander has courage. It always amazes me that everyone overlooks how courageous he is even with no magic, or super strength.

  • @TheBloobster
    @TheBloobster Год назад +3

    Dude he's the first reactor I think ever to know what spell they were doing before they started doing it.

  • @Girl4Music
    @Girl4Music Год назад +4

    The enjoining spell is my favourite spell performed by Willow in the show.
    This is the real reason why Buffy is the most powerful Slayer. The Power of the Slayer is at it’s strongest when TEAMWORK is involved.
    The enjoining spell has the function of combining the abilities and qualities of many into the body of one. Buffy’s enemies, as powerful and formidable as they were, were ultimately defeated because they didn’t consider this very subtle but important detail.
    They were alone. She wasn’t.
    It was as simple as that.
    That’s the reason why ‘Hush’ is so damn good. And ‘Restless’ is my favourite episode of the whole show.

    • @godmagnus
      @godmagnus Год назад

      I'd enjoin with Willow any day

    • @Girl4Music
      @Girl4Music Год назад

      @@godmagnus same here.
      Fun fact: there’s a Willow and Tara fanfiction I read where Tara was actually apart of the enjoining spell. It’s just they tried it first to test it out. Tara is actually inside Willow when she performs the enjoining spell with the Gang. That’s how she knew it would work. It’s actually really clever how it is written. Same as the Netherealm Spell.

  • @simom931
    @simom931 Год назад +1

    At 'and something from Xander' you cracked me up! lol

  • @danwiesdamageinc
    @danwiesdamageinc Год назад +3

    I don't know if anyone filled you in, but Buffy's inner circle (Willow, Xander and Giles) are metaphors for aspects of Buffy's character. This episode lays it out in the open.

    • @visarr
      @visarr Год назад +2

      Spirit, Heart, Brain and Hands. And Cordelia is the path that might have been.

  • @tedkord1968
    @tedkord1968 Год назад +1

    What happens next episode is pure genius

  • @alicequinn505
    @alicequinn505 Год назад

    3:02 Xander's as useful as he is. He's just normal, so it makes sense he feels bad that he's not as "useful" as his superhero friends, even if from our point of view, we don't want him to. It's a sad existential question, better just not to judge people's usefulness like a competition
    4:00 I agree about Giles.
    Can't wait till the epilogue, with your wits I wonder what you made of it.

  • @Girl4Music
    @Girl4Music Год назад +1

    Posting my BUFFY REWATCH recap for ‘Primeval’. May contain spoilers.
    This scene was so sweet. The OG Scooby Gang back together again. Buffy and Willow acknowledge that they've drifted apart throughout the Season. They all had their own individual things going on. Buffy dating Riley. Willow breaking up with Oz and then dating Tara. Xander living in the basement, struggling with finding and keeping employment, and not being apart of the college life with Buffy and Willow. And Giles, going through a midlife crisis now that he has no job and no responsibility to Buffy or Willow and Xander. They say their sorry's for the finale of the Season and make up. How fitting when the way to save the day requires them to be attuned to each other and in harmony like never before to perform the enjoining spell.
    I just love how it's brought up by Buffy that Willow had all the right to keep Tara a secret given how much fear she was feeling over it. Coming out is difficult. I've been there. I know she doesn't have a huge story with identifying that her sexuality is different but I appreciated what little there was. Especially for back then. In 2000. It's a huge deal and they had to be so careful.

  • @mikemichael777
    @mikemichael777 Год назад

    They summoned the power of the first slayer

  • @JustJames83
    @JustJames83 Год назад +2

    Line of the episode goes to Xander (for me, drop yours below)
    “Oh god we’re gonna die aren’t we?”

    • @Girl4Music
      @Girl4Music Год назад +4

      “Does anybody miss the Mayor? I just wanna be a big snake.”

  • @mikemichael777
    @mikemichael777 Год назад

    This episode was one of the greats 👍

  • @christopherholley8164
    @christopherholley8164 Год назад

    Zanders card was heart.

  • @Elisheval
    @Elisheval Год назад +4

    Yay! I can't wait for Restless!!!

    • @MacLeeland
      @MacLeeland Год назад +1

      Wait, you are restless for Restless?

    • @JustJames83
      @JustJames83 Год назад

      I am restless for restless

  • @JustJames83
    @JustJames83 Год назад

    Okay so apart from the obvs question who is your favourite character and why is it Spike, My real question is this.
    As two young people currently experiencing University do you see any similarities between you and the scooby gang with them going off to College this year?

  • @MartinGonzalez-ke9uy
    @MartinGonzalez-ke9uy Год назад

    Great reaction! see you at seasons finale

  • @1matrix9
    @1matrix9 Год назад

    Thank you...well done.

  • @killianlpc
    @killianlpc Год назад +5

    S4 was always going to be slightly difficult because The High School years were over, and the show had to find a new direction. Overall I thought it was disappointing compared to other Seasons and felt somewhat disjointed. Adam, even wasn't really a 'Big Bad' compared with the arc of other seasons. That being said, this was an entertaining episode with the big fight towards the end reminiscent of a Bond Film, with lots of people in a massive big fight in a complex with all sorts of weapons etc, but bullets are flying everywhere but nobody getting hit! We see Willow again gaining amazing power, and being able to transfer to Buffy to make her invincible, there were shades here of The Matrix with the slow motion shots and the strange deflection of Adam's attacks. Riley shows great courage to remove the chip from his chest, and when Buffy pulls out Adam's power source we get a great sense of satisfaction. Once again we have an X-FILES type ending where the men discussing closing down The Initiative could easily be Cancer Man and Assistant Director Skinner as a closing X-FILES scene. Don't worry about E22 finale for S4 it's very different and innovative, but an essential episode going forward.

    • @rfresa
      @rfresa Год назад +3

      It does have an overarching theme of science vs. magic, cavemen vs. astronauts. Even in some of the filler -type episodes like Beer Bad and Pangs. Here, the primeval forces of magic and the First Slayer soundly defeat the technological forces of the Initiative and Adam.
      It seems to be a favorite Whedon theme, also seen in Angel and Cabin in the Woods.

    • @killianlpc
      @killianlpc Год назад

      @@rfresa Yes the Caveman v Astronaut scene with Angel and Spike was hilarious, especially when Wesley interjects.

    • @godmagnus
      @godmagnus Год назад +2

      Didn't help that the original big bad quit.

    • @Madbandit77
      @Madbandit77 Год назад +1

      ​@@godmagnusIt's been rumored that Lindsay Crouse (Oscar nominee, mother of Zosia Mamet from "Girls", ex-wife of playwright David Mamet) didn't get along with Joss during production and she wanted out. Knowing what Joss has done, I wouldn't be surprised if he said dumb shit to her between takes.

    • @Girl4Music
      @Girl4Music Год назад

      @ronhelf MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD.
      My issue with Season 4 and why it couldn’t have been avoided even though I desperately wanted it to be.
      Maggie Walsh and her ‘Initiative’ had the ultimate formula for defeating all vampires, if not all demons.
      A vampire not being able to bite people not by choice is like Castration or Erectile dysfunction because vampires use their fangs to “conceive” their “children”. If they cannot bite, not only can they not survive themselves, but they cannot sire others to survive them either… which means if there was only one vampire left, that vampire couldn’t give “birth” to a new race of vampires. Implanting chips in them would exterminate their entire species by killing the ones that already exist because they cannot feed themselves, and by preventing them from siring anyone so that they also cannot create anew.
      The “vampire” would go extinct very quickly when you think about it. As for defeating all other demons… Adam had that sorted out. See, it could have been such a compelling season and finale if Maggie Walsh’s actor had stayed in the show so that her character could remain the Big Bad instead of Adam. Adam could have still been a thing that she did but he would have actually been an aid to his “mother” rather than her demise as soon as he awakened. I’m kinda annoyed that the actor wanted to leave even though I shouldn’t be because she had all the right to, of course. But it’s just - they had something compelling!
      Science VS supernatural and technology VS magic were themes in juxtaposition that really would have made for a great season and finale. Maybe even as good as Season 5 or, for me, Season 6. It would have been presented and tied up neatly in a bow for the audience watching. Strong and substantial in its representation and development instead of the half-baked, write-it-as-we-go-along, incoherent mess it was. I really would have loved to see the initial plan for Season 4 with Maggie Walsh in mind as the Big Bad because I think she would have been a great one - especially considering she was human and Buffy would have to find a way to stop her without killing her in the way she did for Dark Willow. Or would she have to take the plunge and excuse the fundamental law of no killing of humans to do it? There’s such a condition and conflict there with Maggie that there wasn’t for Adam. And imagine how much more interesting the character Riley would have been if they were able to stick to this storyline for him too.
      It’s a damn shame Lindsay Crouse wanted out because there were so many great ideas that simply had to be discarded because she wouldn’t be there to set them in motion. Makes you realize just how important actors are to show writing and producing. They have to scrap entire storylines if they suddenly have to lose significant characters. In Season 4 it’s Maggie Walsh and Oz because you could essentially have had both the Dark Willow and the Initiative storylines all in one. You’d probably have to lose the character Tara but since they didn’t really do anything significant with her anyway that wouldn’t have been a big loss. It would mean they’d have to make Xander the gay character or do it for later in the show with Willow or even just forgo and forget it completely. It wasn’t necessary, it was just nice representation to have given there was little to no gay representation on TV at all back then. But I could have done without it in all honesty in favour for more compelling storylines. For a better Season 4 that could have been just as strong and substantial as Season 5, if not more. I mean where would it put our core 4 main characters if neither Lindsay Crouse or Seth Green left? If they were able to stick to their original plan for Season 4? Because here’s an idea they may have thought of… what if the reason Oz died was because of Maggie and what if Willow turned and killed off Maggie relieving Buffy from having to do it, but still leaving a problem for her solve in that Willow was now evil? It is such a damn shame because I can see the potential. I can see in my mind’s eye how great it would be if I could get my hands on that initial Season 4 manifesto. To read what was written before they had to change course due to their actors wanting out of their contracts. I reckon THAT Season 4 would have been my favourite season of the entire show - no contest. Because the ideas were there. In Season 7 also, the ideas were there. But the execution was just bleagh… but at least with Season 4 there’s a real reason for it. I can’t give Season 7 that same leeway unfortunately because that was just… - I don’t know what that was but I do know that I didn’t like it and I certainly didn’t think that what they did was good enough to conclude the entire show, let alone a singular season. As a fan I just feel so robbed of some spectacular TV.
      And as much as I love Willow and Tara - I’m sorry but I just prefer stronger and more substantial writing and producing that doesn’t have to rely on representation. That is complete quality just as it is, without shock value, without queer-baiting and without pretences. And in a lot of ways, Willow and Tara were the stand-in for my enjoyment out of Season 4 which is just sad. I shouldn’t have to think that any type of storytelling could be “saved” by something I crave out of it. But it is what it is - it couldn’t have been avoided because to avoid it would mean the actors that wanted to leave would have been denied that right and that’s not cool.

  • @trufamilybromontqc
    @trufamilybromontqc Год назад

    Bye bye Adam 👋