DIY Diamond Spray solution for strops.
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2022
- My solution was
3 oz distilled water
2 oz of humidor solution (50/50 water /propylene glycol)
25 CW = 5 grams monocrystalline diamond powder.
With this solution I still get settling but not as fast as straight water.
Got some glycerin to try this out. Also picked up some deionized water because I vaguely recall it being in other diamond sprays from a forum post years ago. I also ordered some 1 micron diamond powder to give it a try and depending how it goes, make my own for all grits.
The deionized water prevents the diamond emulsion from clumping each other giving more even and consistent micron
how did it go with the glycerin? sounds like a great idea....mygreathanks and blessings
Any updates guys?? Haha
Still works good
Propylene glycol is also the stuff that goes in e cigarettes Vaping devices. A synthetic alternative to glycerine. Could be easier and cheaper to get hold of as it's sold in vaping stores for people who blend their own
The solution I really wanted to use was DPG or Dipropylene Glycol. It seemed much harder to find and more expensive just for small batches of my own diamond spray solutions.
Footnote even with the Propylene glycol, my latest batches still seperate sitting on the shelf but they do stay in suspension longer than just water alone.
I have both PG and VG in gallon each, I will try VG on my next mix, VG supposed to be a bit thicker.
@@ivanlujan253
What is VG?
Vegetable glycerine @@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
How did it go? Did it do a good job holding the powder in solution? Any negative effects on the strop leather?
Links to the powder would be cool. Thank you for the video.
here is one for 1 micron powder
www.amazon.com/s?k=diamond+powder+1micron&crid=7OKO2OZVKLAQ&sprefix=diamond+powder+1micron%2Caps%2C191&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
here is one for 2 micron powder
www.amazon.com/Micron-Diamond-Powder-25Carat-5gram/dp/B07PBQ6WXJ/ref=sr_1_5?crid=7OKO2OZVKLAQ&keywords=diamond+powder+1+micron&qid=1682316196&sprefix=diamond+powder+1micron%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-5
2 oz distilled water
3 oz of humidor solution would have worked better, right? or better still if DPG - 3 parts DPG+ 2 parts distilled? got DPG...mygreathanks and blessings
In the end I think any ratio would probably work. I haven't needed any more solution yet to try other recipe. One person posted previously that if they used 50% propylene glycol (PG) and 50% vegetable Glycerin (VG) that the diamond powder stayed in suspension. This is a common vaping configuration recipe. Propylene glycol(PG) and di-propylene glycol (DPG) are a type of alcohol which are used as a viscosity reducing agent and aids in keeping powders in suspension. DPG is considered safer and used in cosmetics. The other idea is you want to keep a bit of tackiness so it holds the powder onto the strop when it dries. Glycerine or vegetable glycerine would help keep leather soft but you don't want so much that it starts acting like a sticky sugar and holds more dirt and steel on your strop. The glycerine would tend to cause spray bottle nozzles to clog up. Next time I try it I might just use straight humidor solution since it is 50% water and 50% PG. Nothing to mix but it would end up costing a little more to make the solution. Also if you use different diamond grain sizes, add a different food colouring so you know which solution is which grit.
@@toddbenko6701 that last bit is great advice - color coding different grades. and your first point - doesn't matter the ratios - even pure distilled would do as one shakes the bottle anyways before spraying. my order of diamond dust is arriving first week of May and will try 50% DPG + 50% distilled water. will also try 75% DPG +25 distilled and last - pure DPG and will let everyone know results...mygreathanks and blessings
My best formula was vg/pg 50/50, tried vg/water and diamonds still go down, 50/50 pg/vg hold the diamonds perfect, so far after 8 hours nothing seating at the bottom.
Is vg = Vegetable Glycerin?
@@emaicee correct
@@ivanlujan253 Thanks for the fast replay. I will try your mix. Does a spray bottle still work or should I opt for a pump cosmetics bottle?
Propylene Glycol and Vegetable Glycerin... Thats what i use in my vapes... :) thanks thats good to know...
but does it matter if you get poly or mono chrystalline diamonds?
poly crystalline diamonds are better but cost way more and harder to find. Mono are still diamonds and will still perform a cutting action. It's really up to you as to which you want to use but both will work.
Bonjour, pourquoi ne pas mettre que du propylène glicol, ne serait-ce pas mieux ?
Cela dépend essentiellement de ce que vous appliquez votre solution. Je pense que le propylène glycol pur aura tendance à se gommer et à s'accumuler sur votre surface car il a une affinité pour l'eau. Si vous lavez et nettoyez souvent la surface, ce n'est pas un problème et cela fonctionnera.
@@prairieedgeservice un grand merci pour votre réponse. Merci pour le français, c’est sympa.
why not just add the diamonds to a light leather conditioner like lexol or bicks instead since that is designed to soak into the leather and has leather appropriate oils and waxes and glycerine etc.
Everyone had different ideas of how they want the diamond crystals become cutting agents. We use this approach because the diamonds are sprayed and remain on the surface. We want the solution to be able to evaporate and expose the diamond edges but also to be held sticky enough so they don't bunch up or scraped away by the stopping action. I use mine either on a 1x42, 1x18 leather belt in a belt grinder or on a flat leather strop. The spray on solution is to apply a new top coat of diamond crystals. The diamond paste configuration is similar to your concept. It is used to build a base foundation on a strop. Both are acceptable but basically two different intentions. One is base foundation, the other is surface retreatment.