Jim Ross shoots on CM Punk Losing to The Rock
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The problem was never really who Punk faced or who Punk lost to. The problem was during most of his historical reign that people really wanted to see, he was on the undercard to a John Cena main event. It’s fair for JR to say that some of punks stuff was good booking. It would have been if it was consistently main eventing shows instead of the guy he beat and who the fans were tired of. But Vince never went all in on Punk.
It is ironic that the piecec of garbage that is Punk whines about Part timers like Rock taking spots of guys who have been there full time, then turns right around and accepts a payday to immediately fight in UFC taking spots of guys who are already there. Calling him a massive hyporcrite is an understatement.
@@chriskay1449 that’s not the same. He went in wanting to be a full timer, he was just so bad he failed to make it his full time job. Rock from the beginning knew he was only there for his 3 matches and big John cena rematch. The title really was to “make the stakes bigger”
@@conchadeconchos y’all act like the rock didn’t have a long career in wwe and elevated wrestling. Show some damn respect
He's an asshole and thus Vince never saw him as WWE face.
Mr Concha he knew he was trash 🗑 at mma and it was a bucket list thing
Punk's "heel" turn made me cheer him even more. I never liked him better!!!
It's funny how he wasn't even booed when he attacked rock, And then the following Raw, He still wasn't booed(And was cheered when he gave his reason), It wasn't until weeks/month after when he started cutting promos about how the fans don't respect him was when he started getting booed.
I could listen to Punk tell wrestling stories for hours. This guy is a natural storyteller.
He's also a gigantic crybaby who walks out when he doesn't get what he wants.
A storyteller that whines alot and brings backstage stuff out in the open and doesn't know how to shut the hell up
@@kevinr8579 True
@@kevinr8579
Crybabies can tell great stories too 🤷♀️
Did you mean Punk or Jim Ross?
As a Punk fan, his run was bullshit because he never closed out a PPV, it was always a stupid Cena match.
When a match between John Cena and Johnny Ace is headlining over the WWE champion, it’s fair for you to develop a chip on your shoulder.
He literally closed rumble and chamber '13, but i get ur point
@@alexloyola4695 This was no different to Rock and Mankind having to take a backseat to Austin and Vince at St. Valentine's Day Massacre 1999.
The failure on WWE's part was that Cena was nowhere near as beloved as Austin, while Laurinitis was nowhere near as entertaining as Vince.
Business wise Cena made more money...this is a business they don't care about your feelings
@@atimetraveler4910 You just listed 2 PPV’s during the end of his run. His entire run prior to that was a backseat lol
What wwe should've done instead of Rock winning was to have CM Punk retain the title at RR and Elimination Chamber then go on to WM to face Undertaker for the wwe title.. only then it would've been more believable for CM PUnk to have a chance at winning and also being a contender for a great Main event af all time alongside Micheals/Taker at WM 25 or atleast it being an historical match. Me personally would've prefer to watch Taker vs CM Punk for the WWE title at WM 29.
Even with the title Punk v Taker wouldn’t have gone on last. It was going to be Cena v Rock either way. Rock had limited time and they were coming off the prior year where that same match broke the all time record for any wrestling PPV. I can see the argument as to not needing to give it to Rock to give to Cena I guess.
But the legitimate gripe Punk has in my view is that during that super long title reign as champion he was only in the main event (last match) in five of those PPVS. Two of those were when he faced Cena, one was when he lost to Rock and the fourth one was when he beat Ryback. The other one was the PPV right after he won the belt. Every other PPV in that time besides one of them (Brock v HHH Summerslam) Cena was in the main event.
So while I don’t think he needed to give it to Rock I think I’m context you can see they never moved off of Cena being the top guy and they probably just saw this as the easy way to move the belt to Cena with the main event they were already set on. The only reason that belt even came off Cena that summer was because he was injured. So I don’t buy into his WM main event thing - not a reasonable thing to expect when you have Rock v Cena breaking records - I can get being upset that even though he was champion for well over a year that they still focused on Cena being the top guy of the company.
@@Matt-cr4vvcmon bro. You would've booked Cena and the Rock over almost any wrestler past or present just for celebrity status.
I don't think wrestling The Undertaker was a great thing for CM Punk, or anyone for that matter around that time. I can totally understand Punk's point of view on this as he's had the guts to say what everyone else was thinking. "Why? Why is The Undertaker goin to come in to do a 2 1/2 - 3 month build in which he's barely going to be here. I'll be effectively hyping this match myself. Nobody believes I'm going to beat The Undertaker, but I have to do my best to build interest as an opponent who can be seen as a viable threat. Then when I lose to The Undertaker at Wrestlemania, then what? What happens on Monday? He's not gonna be here, but I am".
Yes, it was a great build, and Punk made Undertaker look like a million bucks. But it was detrimental to Punk, because there was no follow up. Because on Monday it was "Oh, here's one of your top young stars... with nothing to do". No get back, no rematch, no nothing.
Nah it was an honor to face Taker at mania and it was an incredible match. Punk is a baby he had the 2nd most hyped match on the show. Everyone else would’ve loved to be in that spot
Literally no one complained about facing Taker at Wrestlemania. I thought it was a great match and I enjoyed the buildup, and so what there was no Taker there afterwards..it still was what it was. Punk is a selfish hypocrite. He was only interested in having the belt and anything else was garbage to him. He was nobody to scoff at a match with the Undertaker. No one is.
Don’t get me wrong, I LOVED Punk! But He was a selfish baby.
In a sense I get it. That would be frustrating. But in another sense it’s respecting a man who did a lot to build the business that you are now in that has made you a millionaire. I think the analysis changes when you factor who you are doing this for.
If you are doing it for somebody like Goldberg or the Rock I can see being really frustrated to be asked to do it. The Rock was obviously big in the attitude era but when you look at things he was full time for WWE for around 6 years, and he was gone for the greener pastures of Hollywood almost the first chance he had. Don’t blame him for that but it’s reality. Goldberg wasn’t a guy who sacrificed a ton to make sure there was a business for the future. So if it was to guys like that I get the gripe.
It changes when you factor it being Taker. A guy who was the full time locker leader and absurdly loyal to the company for close to 20 years before he went to his part time wrestlemania thing. That’s a guy who’s earned it. And you do it not for yourself but rather as a show of respect for a guy who destroyed himself for almost as long as you’ve been alive to be at that point.
As to his main event gripe a lot of that was unfortunate timing. The real case he has is probably the Miz year. But realistically he wasn’t getting that spot over Rock Cena. And the final year he even said himself that was Bryan’s year. Punks issue is that his gripes you can kinda get but in context they’re mostly a guy being mad he only got 85% of what he wanted, not a guy who was treated really poorly.
@@Matt-cr4vv I think his main point of contention is that he was never given his due as being "the guy". Like it constantly felt like he was never Vince's or Triple H's first choice. Despite having great matches with The Rock, and Cena, and Taker, and Lesnar, it really felt like they were wanting someone else to emerge or hoping his momentum would fade. Then they'd begrudgingly give him what he'd earned despite people like Cena, and Rock, and Taker singing the guy's praises.
I’ve never understood the part time champion thing. I remember what made the attitude era so great is night after night whoever the champ was, wrestled on Monday nights and Thursday nights. It was no shock to see the title switch hands on Monday night.
From 1998 through 2001, the WWF Championship changed hands 23 times, & 6 of those occurred on Raw or Smackdown (7 if you're including Vince beating Triple H on Smackdown & then immediately vacating the title the following Raw in 1999).
@@CM-jc7gk yeah I never heard of this part time champion thing until Brock showed up. Which I kind of get since his condition that forced him to quit UFC.
There was no need for twice in a life time..
Whereas if it has to be the rock then why not The Undertaker.
Streak vs Title Streak
However, anyone could have taken the rub from defeating punk at that point
Bryan
Dolph
Cesaro
Ryback (but punk would not have been interested in that)
Wade Barret the most worthy choice at that point!
Easy to see why they did it again from a financial perspective. They had Rock for one more PPV which they likely didn’t know when they marketed once in a lifetime. The WM where he was the host did over 1M PPV buys (prior two years to that didn’t). The first one Rock v Cena broke the record for all wrestling PPVs with over 1.2M buys. Then you have Rock one last time in the NY market. And that one did over 1M buys too. So financially doing it made all the sense in the world. As to keeping the belt on Punk they certainly could have but it wouldn’t have changed the main event. But realistically they wanted it back on Cena and doing what they did was the easiest way. Even during Punks long title run he was only in five of the PPVs last March. Even the PPV he won it on he wasn’t last on the card. Three of the times he was it was facing Cena twice and Rock once. Outside of those PPVs Cena was the main event for all but three (first PPV after Punk won the title, summerslam where Brock faced HHH and the RR where Punk lost to Rock. Clearly even though Punk had the belt for all that time they still had Cena as their top guy. When he won it back he didn’t lose it until he was injured and had to take time off.
Whether you see that as right of wrong is up for debate but clearly the brass ar the time saw Cena as the guy to “give the rub” to the next guy over Punk. But it’ll always be odd as to why they’d keep the belt on a guy they clearly don’t feel is #1 for such a long period of time. Fully possible they felt that Cena didn’t need it, and could keep drawing money without it, and that they could keep Punk happy by leaving him with the belt even though they’d continue to have Cena in all the main event slots.
I think Punk said "Paul's Ashes" was actually cat liter or something like that haha
where did he say that?
where he say that? U lying?
Wrestlemania 29 should have had a triple threat as it’s main event
I see many clueless comments about people wondering WHY was Punk upset to have a feud with The Rock. They are totally missing the point, it would've been GREAT if they ended up in the main event of Wrestlemania rather than The Rock defeating him 2 months prior like a jabroni and then as usual it's all about F'in Cena once again at Mania. 🤮🤮😴😴
Mark Calloway is THE legend of WWE. ..
Eh. He's the mediocre long career player who accumulated stats
Love ya guys keep up the podcast 👏 it's my favorite one
I contend CM Punk losing to the Rock exemplifies what was wrong in the post-Attitude Era. The WWE never made any mega stars. And when they got anyone to the top, they’d bring back a guy like The Rock and have their new star lose. That just tells your audience this crop of new talent sucks and the AA is where it’s at. The problem with that is that a lot of those guys aren’t with the company regularly and you’re shoving people down the fans’ throats that you just said were trash. That’s bad booking. If you bring back a legend, they’re there to pass the torch. The Rock wasn’t coming back at that point to weekly TV. He had a movie career. Why would you put the belt back on him? I love Stone Cold and I’m not a fan of Kevin Steen, but why bring back an old, beat up guy to beat one of your top roster guys? Rub it in, why don’t you? Now KO is buried. He can’t beat a guy in his 50s with a bad neck. So why am I paying money to watch a bunch of losers who can’t beat an old man?
I guess the WWE doesn’t want to look like a third rate Indy show???
You have a valid point
Not only that, Punk had lost to Rock, HHH, Lesnar and Undertaker, all part-timers. And he never got to avenge his loss.
@@CCEkeke they won’t wanna talk about that though…
U don't need new stars when you have the biggest star
The fact that people had an issue with this is ridiculous, we were getting CM Punk in his prime feuding with The Rock🤷
People didn't have an issue with that. They had an issue of it being a one-off to put the belt on the Rock and screw Punk over for Wrestlemania.
@@elpato54 Well dude, after a 434 day run where Punk barely main evented PPVs what made you think he was going to main event WrestleMania??🤷
@@israeloagiledintlhe4166 The fact he outsold Cena on Merch, Every match he wrestled (minus the stuff with Ryback) was a classic, he was the most over wrestler on the roster face or heel (and did it on his own), and did the latter in spite of multiple pushes from management to arrange otherwise. Should I continue?
@@danielevans2081 Buddy I'm not questioning Punk's credibility, what l am saying is, Vince was going to bury him regardless, cause he didn't choose him to be a top guy, he got over with the crowd...
@@danielevans2081At no point did CM punk ever outsell Cena on merch. It's a internet talking point that's refuted by WWE financial records at the time
At least if they had Punk lose to The Rock at the RR then AT LEAST make the WM29 main event a triple threat. The WWE contradicted themselves with the “once in a life time” bull💩
U deserved better Punk 💯
Punk deserves all the crap he gets
@@codesm96 yea its easy to say that 10 yrs later…
No he didn’t cena and rock were a draw punk wasn’t
@@codesm96 lmao you nust be A Young Cuck mark and a Kenny Olivier Stan lmaooo
@@Tumorcoach match was lame lol cm punk match against taker stole the show. Plus he out sold cena in merchandise. He was a draw
I loved the Rock doing Dusty Rhodes hard times.
Punk v Taker was Takers last great match live in the ring.
Def agreed big dawg
True.
Yet he didn’t retire for another 8.5 years lol
That’s a fact
You don't out sell everybody else in merchandise with a cult following"You do it with a mass following
And now punks the one whos beating younger talents, so guess what you guys enjoying it that complained about punk losing to rock are hypocrytes...
So your saying your not allowed to defend yourself against people like those clowns the elite and Adam page calling you out everyday in public because of an old history with a wannabe wrestler like colt cabana and your not supposed to do nothing about it? Riiiiiiiight!!!
@@mrb1994 what does that have to do with anything i said......i never brought up the real life beef of punk vs elite, im talking about when cm punk beat hangman for the aew title.....
Your right
Yeah but CM Punk isn't a part timer and is aews biggest draw don't get me wrong Tony Khan is an SJW pole smoker and aew is a woke shit smark company that stinks 💩 as bad as there smark fanbase smells!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the problem that his title run was side lined just to add something extra to "Once in a Life Time 2: Life Timer".
The rematch didn't need the title but if they wanted to add something to make it different from previous year they should have made it a triple threat.
Kinna pushed cena ova even further they wrestled the year prior jus on a legendary grudge where rock won clean then they let cena win him in the rematch for the title cause there’s no way rock really defending the title knowin he got movies…kinna like when he let Brock beatem at summer slam
Idk when that CM Punk interview is from, but it’s so ironic how a year after this was uploaded - Punk is in WWE working WITH an injury ( obviously by choice )
I still think it’s ridiculous to have a part timer as your champion. It’s not necessary at all and makes the guy beat look like a joke, losing to someone who’s barely wrestling.
Exactly, like when Goldberg beat The Fiend , it killed all that momentum
It compounds the very issue it’s trying to solve.
Cruiserweight ass punk carrying the title.that’s what makes him look like a joke
Business wise it made perfect sense. Punk’s entire run didn’t make as much money as Rock’s mania program.
Stfu Mark. Punk looked like a GameStop employee next to the Rock
I am not an expert in wrestling podcasts, but goddamn, does every podcast has to future Conrad Thompson?
I wish it wasn't that way..he's so unbearable
He is horrible,period.
They are missing the point 434 day run ended by a part timer
Just so vkm can have a second once in a lifetime. Dream match
Does anyone really believe Punk would beat The Rock in real life? Much better to lose it to him for your legacy than say Kofi Kingston.
WHo is considered to be on of the greatest of all time in WWE and was only 40 years old. Stop acting like he jobbed to an 80 year old Hulk Hogan. You insult The Rock with your BS post.
CM Punk had the whiney EMO punks as his fans
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Punk vs Undertaker was easily one of the best mania matches ever
And he bitched about it .. says alot
The Rock coming back and beating Cena after the entire build to the match was Cena outclassing and embarrassing Rock in literally every single promo was the beginning of me checking out of wrestling. Cena even brought up how the only time Rock ever said anything half decent was when he would send a pre recorded video, and that Rock had lines written on his wrist.
Socialist Batman Are you stupid ? The Rock destroyed Cena with the Fruity pebbles and the Calling the I cant see you hand wave PEEK A BOO I See you LOL
💯💯💯💯facts! Cena smoked the rock twice in back to back manias with his promo work.
@@oledefense1033 It'd be a major concern if he hadn't, Rock 10 years away from the business. Would have been very different with a full time Rock from 1998-2003.
CM Punk still mad over this. He insulted The Undertaker though. He thought Taker was beneath him. I never liked his whinny ass after knowing this. He's currently at it again in that dysfunctional wrestling organization.
TOTALLY AGREE. I can't believe till this day that Punk was upset about wrestling Taker at Wrestlemania. Smh.
@@Renodrums-vq8nv that was a main event match. They advertised it like they always do. One big main event and 3 other matches that could potentially be main event matches. They did it for years. I would have been happy to face The Undertaker. I mean no championship is a bummer but it The freaking Undertaker!
@@larrystilltheeman39 For me, Its kind of a bigger honor to Wrestle Taker at Wrestlemania. There will always be championship matches, But there's only 1 Undertaker and there's only a low number of people who has had the honor of wrestling him at Mania.
I doubt he thought facing Taker was beneath him. Punk wanted the main event. And to be fair, the main event is the last match on the card. Did he go about it the right way? Nope. But I get his issues.
@@CCEkeke so The Undertaker isn't a main event guy? At WrestleMania they showcase 4 matches. 3 could possibly be and the big one. Yeah he did. That's why me and Mark can't stand this guy. He wasn't even above John Cena and Punk had the championship for what 11 months! He never headlined over Cena! His ego is as big as his big mouth.
CM Punk should have been main eventing PPV’s while he was champion, not have been on the undercard. Plus, It should have been a Triple Threat match at WrestleMania 29
In Kayfabe and as far as a draw The Rock runs circles around punk it is what it is
If they would have allowed Punk to beat the streak, he would still be in WWE...he would have become a made heel and it would have skyrocketed his stock more than it already was. Instead, they had a guy who could barely work, go over there longest reigning champ...Vince for you.
Maybe but I’m not so sure. Punk gives off the vibes that nothing is truly good enough. Even now as the top guy in AEW he’s upset about things. It would’ve been nice for them to embrace him as the top guy more but he doesn’t demonstrate an attitude about anything ever being enough.
@@Matt-cr4vv exactly atleast you see it and are not manipulated easily by hearing one guys "side" of the story
Fuck off Cemen Puke is a crybaby bitch!he didn’t deserve to be in the ring with Taker
Breaking The Undertakers Streak Was Pointless Wouldn't Create Any Draws And Didn't Do Anything But Hurt The Undertakers Career!!!!!!
Lita got around, huh??
Hey you only live once
Go take your chance
😂😂
She dated 3 we know of. Nobody makes any comments when a guy has had multiple girlfriends throughout his life…
Cm punk was the lowest drawing champion in the history before it was surpassed by kevin owens . The raw ratings reached 2.2 like wtf . Cm punk should have won the first match fs the rock but they screwed him due to bad bookings
Imagine whining about feuding with the rock lol.
This problem was losing the belt to someone who was part time and going to Hollywood
@@edwardknox9269 and the part timer was the freakin rock. I do believe cm punk should’ve been added to the main event of mania though. I do believe that. However, losing the title to a bigger star than you just makes sense sometimes.
@@davidnelson4347 Exactly, I'd just be grateful I got to work with someone like The Rock. Opportunities like that are extremely rare.
We get it you're gay for the rock!!!!!!!!
CM Punk was never at Rock’s level anyway, good thing that whinny ass lost in back 2 back PPV’s
Your probably an omega guy
@@MrTeamBringIt123 Nah, I’m a The Rock guy
Lmao
@@theguiminator W though
Rock was the absolute right call. It's a show business not the everyone's gets a turn business. Punk only held it that long because Rock was slated to return to at Rumble, thus they kept it on Punk for an extra 5 months. If you really think Punk would have held onto it without the notion that Rock wanted to work with The 2nd biggest guy in the company, you're sadly mistaken. Rock wanted Punk, punk had the title, no one else on the roster could beat Punk because that makes him look weak when his Rumble match arrives.
Miz getting it over him does sound crazy
Punk and Cena should have main evented a mania, And I believe they would have, only thing that stopped it was that Dwayne made his comeback in the middle of all of this, I thought he should have ended the streak.. that would have redeemed the WWE in Punk's eyes, I believe.
I seem to remember Punk won that match yet it was restarted by Mr.Mcmahon. The Rock rallied and checked Punk into the Smackdown Hotel.
Am i wrong?
Right
Kind of. The lights went out and when they came back on, The Rock had been laid out; Punk got the 3-Count, but Vince came out because the stipulation was that if the Shield got involved (which they presumably did when the lights went out), Punk would be stripped of the title, but before that happened, The Rock told Vince not to so that, but just restart the match. Then Rock won.
Definitely a weird ending with that lights out thing. Definitely didn’t do any favors in making Punk look like he was at Rocks level. You won because someone interviewed and as soon as we restart you lose. Meh.
@@Matt-cr4vv
Well it painted the picture of Punk
Aginst an evil empire.
Its like sure Punk lost
But hes really the underdog.
Its a really brilliant bit of in ring storytelling.
@@Matt-cr4vv It wasn't weird. Vince outright made a stipulation the RAW before the match that if the Shield interfered, Punk would be stripped of the title. Punk tried to work around that by having the lights go off and The Shield interfere and not be seen. Well, it backfired because everyone knew it was The Shield that put The Rock down.
I remember Phil brooks 434 day run. No one cared. None of the other superstars, I know I didn't as a wwe fan. If I remember right CM punk couldn't even get a main event at the PPv's.
All dude did was bitch his way to the top.
shut your trap...your favorite wrestlers not even worthy of lacing cm punk's boots
CM Punk 👑
Dear God he reminds me of Brett Hart. And have a cry baby who wants it to be all about him.
He reminds me a lot of Bret too. Nothing was good enough. And his attitude in AEW to me makes it seem like while he didn’t get the best treatment in WWE, clearly he never made things easy like a trooper as he tried to portray.
Rock is a mega draw,Punk is just a whiner who couldn't get mainstream attention. Right move having Rock headline WM
And Rock was selfless as well, losing to Hurricane Helms of all people, and he lost to some top guys at the height of his popularity and at his prime
"For over forty years Jim Ross has been the Voice of Wrestling" 40 years? Jim Ross had a hand full of good years as a commentator in the WWF/WWE. He sounds like he is depressed on AEW and in WCW he sounded like he hadn't reached puberty yet. I am not speaking about his refereeing, Talent Relations or any other office type job...I am talking about "For over forty years Jim Ross has been the Voice of Wrestling".
Do these wrestlers really perform matches infront an audience without practicing/ rehearsing?
Punk should have gone over at the Royal Rumble and lose at Mania
The only reason The Rock won the title was to lose it to John Cena in their Wrestlemania rematch.
@@butt5ful John Cena should have beaten the rock at 28 and he should have won 27
@@butt5ful ugh
@Adam Corraliza yeah pity thi g for John Cena losing to Rock the year before. How things went donwhill for him. How his wife left him. Him beating the guy who beat him and for the title was him regaining honor or some crap like that.
@@butt5ful Cry more, MARK
lmaooooo
😂😆😆😅🤣😆
Punks 2012-2013 heel run was eh he did his best to make it work but straight edge punk was so much better in comparison but just cut too short just my opinion
The Rock is 6' 5" 269 lbs, Punk losing to him make sense
More like 6'3
Let’s not exaggerate his height now shall we
@@jms7265 Bruh, it's not that serious. my point is he can whoop Punk's ass
6’5? Lol rock is shorter than orton.
Orton is 6’4 …
@@sul98 U completely missed the point, Punk too skinny and frail to be a believable fighter that could beat The Rock. His height is irrelevant
Folks feel a way about Punk losing n part time champs, if the full timers drew, the part timers would be icing on the cake
I don't believe in the full timer part time debate. Do you have skills period? Some of the greatest boxers have 50 fights others have 120 fights. Doesn't make one better than the other its just one worked more fights and one worked fewer fights for higher prize money/purses. Both respectable.
That isnt even the point of the debate. The point is its shortsighted to focus more on old parttime wrestlers than invest in your young full time talent
Cm punk was cool but…he was just another Jabroni to The Rock.
CM Punk is his own mark
Triple h took 9 months off for his knee, vonce didn't want punk to even have 1 week off.
im sorry but conrad is such a bad intrevewier. he talks too much and put his own thoughts in the question to the point that SOMETIMES i feel like JR doesn't give his real thoughts and just agree with what conrad said.
Yup
Agreed. His podcast with Kurt Angle is sooooo much better when he lets the bald interviewer run the show.
Losing to the Rock isn’t an issue- Owen’s lost to old Austin, did that kill Owen’s? kayfabe is long dead therefore just being in a match with someone like rock is getting over…perhaps it could have been at mania but then cena vs Rock felt more special.
The match was so funny to watch because if the size difference. I just couldn’t believe anything about it even though the rock won
Really wish JR would retire from commentary and take over the booking or talent relations for AEW. I don’t see that company lasting more than 5 years
5 years total or 5 more years ?
@@tlbradio 5 more years. My bad I should’ve clarified.
JR doesn't want to do that job anymore.
Punk is skinny and unathletic. His greatest accomplishment is getting promotions to push the idea that he can fight. Total fiction.
Is "rumour and innuendo" some sort of inside joke? Conrad wears it out
South thing
It started with his first podcast with Bruce Prichard. Bruce hates that saying, so Conrad says it to annoy Bruce and now says it on all podcasts..
Lol yeah and "I'm going to freestyle "
I truly think that they missed that opportunity punk vs stone cold. All man it would’ve been a better version of stone cold vs Bret hart. Fantastic on the mic stone cold is great on the mic it definitely showed in they’re promo with Jim Ross
Nothing is better than Bret Hart be Stone Cold.
WM13 match goes down in my top 3 matches of all time. They just compliment each other so well. I wish Brett had come back as the higher power it would have been awesome.
@@BlackDudeHoods I really don’t know. We having seen CM Punk vs stone cold so that argument is not really on the table far as Bret and stone cold being the better of the few that could’ve been. But I do understand why you think so. Believe me I watch that entire promo and matches
Hart v Stone Cold is the top of the good chain. As believable as it gets
Shout outs to God Stanford
CM Punk really is the best
There is no way that fruit cm punk could beat The Rock
4:09 😶
Say what you want to say but the rock should have never beat punk
Not the biggest fan of Cm Punk but he should’ve mainevented Wrestlemania 29 with the undertaker
No one denies Punk is a good worker, it's that he's a jerk. Yeah, in WWE he got messed over and I respected him for taking a stand against the part-timers. However he's now not helping his case.
Rock vs Cena at WM28 sucked. WM 29 should’ve been Punk vs Rock vs Cena with Cena winning. Then Punk gets his main event and has nothing to whine about. Also that triple threat match would’ve been match of the year knowing Punk will step up his game as he probably thinks the only way he’ll get a couple of more mainevent matches at WM is to make the triple threat match a match people will talk about for years.
Rock vs cena drew the highest amount of money in history of wrestling to this day, ppl who didnt watch wrestling for years were brought back into wrestling. As a businessman thats the main event 2 years in a row.
Punk would just bitch he didn't get a 1v1 or win the strap
Their match at 28 was awesome Wdym. Don’t disagree about 29 tho
I can see their match maybe not being your taste. But it resulted in the highest sold wrestling PPV ever so clearly it worked on the business end. And the following year they went over 1M in PPV buys again. Even the year before WM 28 when Rock was the host it went over 1M buys. Hard to point that to anybody but rock considering Miz v Cena isn’t a main event that you’d think sells over 1M PPVs.
I could get with the Triple Threat but cynically I don’t even think that would’ve been enough for Punk. He’d probably have been upset that it wasn’t a singles match. He did get the shaft a bit in a sense but whenever you listen to him he comes off as a guy that nothing is good enough for. Even now being the clear #1 guy in AEW and he’s upset because of the Bucks and Hangman. He almost comes off Bret Hart bitter to me. A guy who seems to find everything as an affront or travesty to him but never sees an issue when somebody else has to do the honors for him. Has a career where he was the champ many times for a long period of time but isn’t satisfied because he didn’t have the Hulk (or Cena here) treatment and felt affronted for having to lose it. And constantly states how much of the loyal soldier he was and how he was never the issue and everybody else was. I think the discontent in AEW has shown that he had to be a decent part of a lot of his issues in WWE. Like a Bret or Cornette sometimes when you have an issue with everyone you have to assess what the common variable is.
It is the worst thing tho bruh a part timer u don’t lose to that same i expect for roman u lose to somebody u gonna push heavy for the future
Cannonball run with wrestlers?
Cm punk should have dropped the title to a full timer . Vince was so stupid telling punk he was going to fight hhh at WrestleMania
I love that line he gave to hhh I don't need to wrestle you you need to wrestle me and despise you for not putting me over when you should have 2 years ago
The worse thing was Rock v Cena 2 it was ment to be once in a lifetime. They just ruined it. Both matches sucked..
They both sucked because it’s supposed to be “once in a lifetime”? That just sounds like you didn’t watch EITHER matches
Peolple love talking shit about this guy and it’s honestly ridiculous
Damn...Punk looks like he has two broken arms. 🤣🤣
Punk isnt nearly as big a deal as he thinks he is. Punk did NOT deserve the WM 27 Main Event and that is revisionist history from Hell thinking he did. Miz worked his ass off, and was overcoming everything, and wasnt crying and whining about his spot.
Punk also is nowhere near the level of the Rock, simple as that, he should not even bitch and cry about losing to the Rock, or losing a spot to the Rock. Rock pulls in money, Punk doesnt. 1 month of T shirt sales in 2011 is what his stans fall on, and thats literally it.
Also, JR can suck it with his corporate shilling. The Undertaker is longevity and thats it. He rarely had any main event runs worth a fuck, and he was never ever, not once, not never the main guy in any era. Hogan > Bret/Shawn > Austin > Rock/Foley > Brock > Cena > Roman. At no point was Taker "the guy"
He was on Smackdown in 2007
Undertaker is the most over rated wrestler of all time. I believe they only kept him because he was bred to play the Undertaker gimmick. The top level guys love to flaunt shit like that to the masses
This dude is the biggest star of modern era but he is too damn open mouthed about all the dirty things. This dude is the most misunderstood guy in pro wrestling top level sphere.
Not even close to being the biggest star of the modern era wtf bs is this only morons would say he is big star😂😂
You have to be a moron just as him to think that
lol biggest star hell no
dude is a joke
LOL, spoken like a true, delusional Punk mark. He is a piece of garbage who only cares about himself.
Punk has never been a draw, Rock was a massive draw, it makes perfect sense for The Rock to go over on CM Punk
I’ve tried to like wrestling for the past few years since I stopped watching around the end of the attitude era. I had high hopes but AEW is a big disappointment. I’ve tried to like Punk even watching some of his WWE stuff on RUclips, but I just can’t. In my experience if you’re not “straight edge” those people look down on you, and a lot of times they have aggressive personalities. So those types can f off😁. The best thing about wrestling now is hearing all the stories in the “shoot” videos. My opinion
Sounds like a long version of "I do drugs".
The the only reason anyone over the age of 18 watches wrestling-related content. For the shoot interviews
Part timer the Rock, no better part timer other than Brock Lesnar!
The Rock sold out the show easily
Something how many full timers couldn’t do
Rock earned his place dude
That UT buildup was great. Will always feel like if they didnt give punk the main event on that show, he should have beaten UT that night. THAT would have been a good consolation prize. However, the law of reverse momentum usually isnt wrong in the world of pro wrestling, so after the go home show I knew pumk was going to lose.
God no this is a shit comment, punk didn’t deserve any of that. Punk beating taker would be stupid
They were never going to do that as it would massively overshadow the main event. When they finally did, it was the same show that ended up having Daniel Bryan win the title and that was never going to get overshadowed by Taker losing.
CM Punk = OVERRATED
Your mother is overrated. She doesn’t have the juice
Prob the most overrated wrestler ever
A wrestler like hulk hogan can be called overrated. Punk is known to be underrated his whole career. Overrated is not possible.
No win situation with this program vince of course backed himself in a corner and booked his top heel to lose and get the cena main event to "repeat the success" of Wrestlemania 28 which they weren't not going to do. Bullshit call to have rock beat punk early
SEEEMM SUCKS
He dated Lita?
She belongs to the streets hahahahahahahaha
Damn lita been passed around
Nobody was more overrated than that bum CM Punk
He was acting like he wasn't excited to be working with the rock. He was giddy af
Horrible to have punk drop to rock at that timr
Punk is a complete Diva. We See that right now. He should have lost to The Brooklyn Brawler.
Divas don't punch out EVPs lol
He lost to a part timer
I've been wrestling fan for a long time, and I gotta say, Punk has to be the biggest bust of all time. He's not someone you want to build a wrestling company around. See WWE and now AEW
WWE never attempted to build the company around him; they never wanted him to be the top guy. In AEW, Punk was great until he had to start working with "The Elite" camp and realized what a bunch of idiots and pricks they were. Even then, Punk had no issues until Page tried to bury him on live television. And Punk STILL did business with him and didn't bury him after the match. It wasn't until that camp went to the dirtsheets to spread their rumors about Punk trying to get Cabana fired that Punk brought up everything.
But yeah, Punk is the problem there.
I don't understand the appeal of CM Punk either. He seems like a mealy-mouthed, whining, malcontent. He doesn't look like he could fight and from his UFC fights, it's obvious he cannot.
If he stayed as a heel he'd be alright, but he seems, personally, to be just really bland, yet irritating and strange.
All he seems to do, is complain. And talk about himself, and how he's been mistreated.
He's not a great wrestler, and aside from two or three pipe bomb promos, he's not that good on the mic either.
To me, CM Punk just seems very average, and yet constantly complaining, showing he thinks he's much better than he is.
I'm honestly surprised he ever got as far as he did, and I cannot understand it. I don't hate him or his fans but, why they like him, is mystifying.
@@SupraViperhead It's always someone else's fault, but never Punks. He is a narcissist and I think he suffers with bipolar as well.
If Rock was fulltime sure part time movie guy not so much
The Crock 💩 is a fraud stop worshipping this bald headed jabroni and pull your head out that candy ass you can just smell the brama 🐂 💩 coming from your breath in one comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CM Putz should never ever be scripted to beat The Rock.
If you can’t deal with losing to an all time great because you feel like you deserve it and that person doesn’t, you’re showcasing a level of shortsighted selfish ego that is very easy to spot.
CM Punk will never be bigger than The Rock even after The Rock is dead and gone. It’s nothing to be ashamed of either. But it’s pathetic not to accept it.
Jfc. He was fine with losing it. He just thought it was a bad move to drop it at the Rumble. And in all honesty, he was probably correct. Cena Vs Punk Vs Rock at Mania made wayyyyy more sense than just Rock vs Cena 2. Considering Punk/Cena were a continuous rivalry and he was feuding with The Rock as well. I really don't get why people think he didn't want to drop it to Rock, they're literally friends.
Especially seeing that it's fake lol
@@bls8959 Scripted. Not fake and that still doesn’t mean talent doesn’t care what happens to their character. CM Puck shouldn’t have lost to Rock 🤷🏽♀️
Wants to be world champ but doesn’t want to do world champ s***
But he did do it, mark
@@DavidAGIII a millionaire bitching about having to do his job? And I’m the mark??
Rock has returned to ruin wrestlers. Never put anybody over not even Cena if you think of it
Meanwhile Cena comes back and just puts people over like he just did solo
Rusev,Wyatt Fam, Theory,Punk,DBry, Miz.. I'm sure I'm missing several but just a few people the rock returned just to bury
Except this year
His situation vs the rock always reminds me of when Stone Cold wouldn't work with Hogan cause he knew he would lose now just imagine if punk did what Austin did an we never got that match
Besides pandering to a crowd about how ‘AMAZED’ he is to even be back wrestling (bullsh*t…needed money after a horrifically tragic showing in real fighting UFC…despite months and months of training…he STILL looked like he had never even had a fight in grade school)…
I have NEVER ONCE heard Philly Brooks make a single statement that was not complaining about someone he had to work with, o some situation he was put in…
‘BEST IN THE WORLD - Philly Brooks) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…
AEW - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…
What are you 12?
Punk has been training in MMA since he was 6, but still looked like he can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag. That dude is made of glass
That's his gimmick
I used to like Punk but now it seems like he has too much of a chip on his shoulder. I get that there a lot of crap to deal with in the WWE and wrestling business. But that's the business. You gotta play the games and politics. It's like being a Hollywood actor. People want the fame but they hate the paparazzi. Well that's what comes with the territory. I bet it sucks but if you complain too much, you sound like an entitled brat to everyone. And that's how I see Punk now.
He was simply replying to false rumors spread about him over the internet but whatever lol
@@MrTeamBringIt123 There's a difference between replying to false rumors and complaining like a b*tch. A professional response would've been just to say that there's no truth to those rumors. But he went on a rant that embarrassed his coworkers, company, and boss.
What stalled cm punk’s eventual rise was Jeff hardy getting into substance troubles again. They were both going to be the two push hardy-baby face punk-heel during that time but once Jeff had to take time away they had to go back to Cena and the rest is history aha
Only on SmackDown, which was considered the B Show. They were never going to push Jeff over Cena long term.
If Punk was never allowed to do his Pipe Bomb, he would have never gotten over to the level that he did. Vince was forced to go with him because of the buzz.
@@markrobinson9394 Punk was already their top heel pre pipebomb, had been for a long time
@@DavidAGIII Wrong. Orton and Jericho were the top heels from 2007-2010, until Orton turned face and Jericho left the company.
Punk became the top heel on SmackDown for 4 months in 2009, only to get demoted because he didn't want to wear a suit backstage. Batista then took that spot from him later in the year. He was a midcarder after that, with feuds against Mysterio and Big Show in 2010. He didn't get pushed back to near the main event scene until early 2011 when he became the leader of the new Nexus and feuded with Orton and Cena.
@@DavidAGIII He was an upper mid card- main event heel from 2009-2011. Orton, Edge, Barrett, Batista, and even Miz were slotted over him at times