I'm kind of stunned at all the apologists for the refs today. I've been watching games for decades and never seen a blatant non-call like that. For the first time, I am starting to believe the whole "NFL is fixed" mantra.
4Stanzas....Too many fans are really not fans of the sport of football. They are mostly a fan of their favorite team. Big difference. True fans of the sport love seeing all the talent, effort and strategy. They may root for a team in each game, but still watch the game in a more objective way versus the comments I always hear from most of them in bars where I've watched. Way too much blind biased comments after each play. I try to learn about all the strategy and details in every game. This is what makes football so fun to watch. The nfl rules committee has to make more changes and I think they will. Any change is better than leaving it the way it is. No change will completely fix this, but the rules committee is qualified to come up with an improvement.
Saints should have never been in that situation. They had many chances to put this game away.. Not a ram or saints fan but blaming a referee who makes so many mistakes all year long is stupid. Saints lost cause their own mistakes.
I've never been NFL is rigged guy but this is getting rediculous. We see game after game season after season certain players and teams being favored by the refs, it's undeniable and it needs to stop. It wasn't just in the Saints game it was also in the Patriots win, do you think Cam Newton would've gotten that phantom roughing call Brady got at the end of that game because I don't.
Yea That Wasnt Roughing The Passer, But The Saints No PI Call Is Just Ridiculous Cuz It Could Of Potential Won Them The Game. And Not To Mention, He Could Of Seriously Injured Tommy Lee Lewis. But Neither Was Helmet To Helmet Or Anything Ever Called. Horrific.
I'm a Pats fan, was watching the game at a sports bar in Boston and everyone in the bar was mystified by the roughing the passer call. A light tap on the sternum and Brady doesn't even fall down should not generate a pass interference call.
Sorry all those people that talk about the non call no nothing about football, every game has dozens of non calls that should have been called,a non call is a non issue,the issue is when refs make calls when the game is on the line ,especially when it does not involve the play or when its questionable or when they have been letting it go all game, for example that questionable pass interference call that cost the jags last year AFC game, the holding call that cost the Falcons the superbowl,the offsides call that cost the chiefs this year, I bet my friend on the chiefs n Patriots but I wont pay him because the game was not played fairly, the chiefs were good enough to beat the Pat's not good enuf to beat pats plus refs, stay home rams you're not good enuf to beat the pats plus refs, interesting that the refs in last years superbowl because they didnt help the Pat's win r no longer allowed to ref pats games
@CJ Dillon missed calls all throughout the game on both sides, this one one have sealed the deal, and it was obvious. No whining here .............................son.
Well, BRADY said he didn't fumble the ball with the TUCK RULE GARBAGE are you saying BRADY DIDN'T FUMBLE? Which was pretty obvious to everyone except NFL OFFICIALS AND PATS FANS. C'MON MANNNNNN
One Kxng I’ll be completely honest I didn’t see that play and I’m not a saints fan . Just calling it how I see it and there’s been something funny to happen at the end of every game this postseason smh. But this call here I have no clue how a ref would not call that
Arren Cuyler it shouldn’t have went to OT. Just like in the chiefs game a penalty cost them that one, this penalty was supposed to cost the rams. That defender made ABSOLUTELY NO PLAY on the ball
@@The2KGOAT Yeah but still refs make bad calls...it's part of the game. The missed PI was a huge no call but it didn't rob the saints and cost them the game. The Drew Brees pick in OT did
@@depressedaleks7351 That is the thing, "probably", who knows what could have happened. They could have been stopped, kicked a FG anyways that might have missed, a fumble, an interception. There is no telling what could have happened. All we know, Brees had a chance to win... and they lost it.
that was totally unfair especially in a playoff game, I am not a football expert but certainly enjoy the game, I have a suggestion for the NFL, during the play offs each team should have 1 red contesting flag that they can toss to contest a referee's call, the sanctity and importance of a playoff game makes this a fair solution in my eyes, that play call should have been over ruled. by the way I was not rooting for the saints, if you agree that this simple rule is viable and would do good, please LIKE this
all bad calls are un acceptable to me, wasn't itemizing here, my point simply is that a blatant from any angle bad call in a play off game should be reviewed@@theDavidChannel1
David Duarte those calls would not determine the outcome of the game. Rams get the face mask wow they score a touchdown making it 24-20 then if the saints would have gotten the pass interference call and we scored from the 3 yard line it makes it 27-24 without the rams getting a chance for the ball again. saints win anyway you look at it. That call legit cost the saints that game.
@@justinwhite215 umm if you add up everything the guy said the saints wouldn't have 27 points (2 face masks and 3 delays of games) you can't just think the saints walk away with the same amount of points when you call those penalties for the rams... Heck they finally call one holding call on the Saints offense and that killed the drive so please don't assume the Saints win this game because we honestly would never know.
Nobody is arguing about the decision making, we are talking about the refs and the call. Not the saints game plan we can do that in a different segment but this one is about the missed calls. All the missed calls but especially the blatant helmet/pass interference. Coming from a panthers fan the saints should be in the super bowl.
J let me try to make my point that it was the most egregious missed call I remember seeing but sure we can talk about all the missed calls and how the nfl needs to work on officiating. I think the issue with whataboutism is that in the situation you’re talking about it may not have been as clear cut. We know refs are gonna miss calls but the issue is missing obvious calls I’m willing to look for what specific play you’re talking about to see if it was also blatant but I think the media is up and arms about this is because it was an obvious miss on the play I’m talking about
you can't tell me that its 100% that they would've scored. they likely would have but there is a chance they would have fumbled, threw a interception, etc. so get over it. every single team has been in the same position
@@edmundjones8500 That's a major part of the problem from my understanding (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) is that after the two minute warning and in the final two minutes of the game plays are not reviewable and this needs to be changed and what happened with the Saints vs Rams game is proof there needs to be changed in that rule.I understand they are trying to control the flow of the game so it does't drag out forever but at the same time the rules need to fair and give teams some recourse when something like that happens so it doesn't cost them a game. I have no doubt the Saints would have won considering the PI call would have made it first and goal with four downs to put the ball in and the Saints scoring would have put the game out of reach for the Rams to be able win.
@@tiyeeshaphillipsblackqueen2986 I Live in Los Angeles (Inglewood) to be exact and half of this city can care less about the Rams. That game seemed Rigged.
Mario Vega I feel you, that’s why they’re saying it’s rigged. To generate interest and bring in LA money. Idc either way, football is dying, I’ve been playing fifa lol
Yeah the refs made sure the saints threw the ball instead of running it like they should have and made sure the Rams DB hit the Saints WR.... you people are dumb.
Al Capone I remember a time in the NFL where Brady was accused of deflating footballs in order for him to win and Brady took it to court and won. Then Roger Goodell was salty about it and made the judge over turn it without any evidence to get him suspended for 4 games. Right there is an instance of when the NFL tried to hold Brady down on the stupidest thing ever. What instances do you remember where the NFL bowed to Brady? I’d love to hear it.
Cris Carter I get the point , but being wrong is okay. The correct decision is RUN 3 times. Whoever is in the box or not, chances of fumbling vs chances of getting picked off the same way Tom Brady did in the end zone when the Chiefs put Reggie Ragland on a spy is just as possible. Take their timeouts and be smart. Cmon CC
So.. because Sean Payton called the right play that would have either been a touchdown (or at least 1st down), he STILL should have ran it 3 times to prevent this type of non-call from happening? What?! I would hate to have your brain and reasoning skills.. lol
Moderately Moderate it has nothing to do with Non Calls being made or anything. It’s about playing to win. At that time and moment they should have run the ball cause worst case scenario the rams get the ball back less than a minute no time outs Jared Goff is the QB(he’s good don’t get me wrong but not TD in sub min no timeouts good) and Todd Gurley has been absolutely terrible all game and CJ hasn’t been great but ok. I’d love that scenario if I’m the Saints
appetite for destruction if he made the right call why is his team not in the super bowl..? And don’t bring up the PI. Show me you aren’t weak and actually know what you’re talking about. Measure the percentages of a team scoring with NO TIMEOUTS. Vs. timeouts.. thank hou
Why exactly should the Chiefs be there? Let me guess... the roughing the passer penalty? How about the bs holding call that nullified a Kelce fumble recovered by the Pats. The plethora of mugging that Patriots receivers faced when trying to make big catches without one flag being thrown. If anything the refs were completely favoring the Chiefs in that game. They were “letting them play” for only 1 defense out there. The NFL would have rather seen a Chiefs-Rams Super Bowl and that’s why they chose the incompetent Blakeman crew to officiate the AFC Championship game, which is the only ref crew that Brady has a losing record with.
Vasilios Katsieris how about when a chiefs receiver blasted a dB while they where in man coverage and the receiver he was supposed to cover goes for a touchdown
@@TheRoguesource I mean they made a longer field goal after the missed call, of course it's not guaranteed, but it's hard to dispute that the it dramatically improved the rams chances of winning the game.
TheRoguesource of course not but they could have scored a TD if Tommie Lee Lewis was not whacked like that. Do you see how that works? If he’d caught the ball, he walks into the end zone. Game over literally.
Stop blaming this on the Ref. The Rams Defense was on point. This was any body game. The Saints won the coin toss that defense was on killing Brees get over it the best team won.
I think CC forgets that the Seahawks didn’t run the ball.. or that the falcons didn’t run the ball after the Julio Jones catch in SB51.. that’s what happens when you don’t run. You put your defense in a difficult, sometimes impossible, spot later.
I will not being watching the Super Bowl due to corrupt officiating!!! I will go snow skiing, no lift lines on Super Bowl Sunday!!! It’s time to move on= Pickleball!!!!!!!!!
No one cried for the Falcons when Roddy White was held on a 4th down in the 2012 NFC championship game against the 49ers. It’s football. Crying about it won’t retroactively make your team win.
I've never thought the NFL is rigged before yesterday. I've always thought football is just too chaotic to rig like the WWE or many other sports. But I think they went a little too far this time and now people like me are starting to buy into the theory that it is rigged. It's clear that if that penalty was called as it should have been, the Saints end up being ahead by 3 or 7 points with anywhere from 30 to less than 5 seconds on the clock with no timeouts for the Rams. Everyone knows this and the ONLY people disagreeing are people who are either biased for the Rams or against the Saints (people are also complaining about the missed "facemask" on Goff on the previous drive, but a: he didn't grab or pull the facemask, b: that was incidental, not a penalty anymore, c: the refs missed multiple, MULTIPLE holds and PIs on the Rams throughout the game and the officiating was all-in-all evenly bad through the first 58 minutes). Every single human being watching it on TV or in the stadium saw it and knew for a fact it was interference with helmet to helmet the instant it happened. Isn't it suspicious that there are 7 refs, at least 4 of which were right there looking directly at it, in person, with an unobstructed view of it, with a couple of them just a few dozen feet away, and not one of them saw enough to throw a flag? What possible explanation could there be for why all these people didn't throw a flag unless they were specifically told not to? Isn't it suspicious that LA is a huge market that the NFL has barely tapped, and the year the league moves 2 teams there they both go from bad to really good and the following year one of them ends up in the Super Bowl directly because of this officiating mistake? Go watch all the talk show videos on RUclips about it. In every single one, there's one guy saying it cost the Saints the game, and another defending the refs and/or blaming the Saints for the loss and for not overcoming it. The NFL has to have someone in every segment defending the refs and downplaying the importance of the call and convincing people it was a more fair game than they remember because if everyone gets wise to the fact the refs rigged this game, someone will find hard evidence and the media will spread the news like wildfire and the NFL will be gone by the end of the year and a lot of people will go to jail. Why is it the only thing in the game coaches cannot challenge are penalties? If the ref throws a flag or decides not to throw a flag, there's no way for any coach or player to do anything about it. If a ref wants a penalty or wants no penalty, he can just decide whether to throw a flag and that's the final say. Isn't it a little suspicious that despite the fact bad calls have been becoming a growing problem for years and years now, the league hasn't introduced anything that would give the refs accountability and oversight from anyone other than the league's own officiating office? Why would they be so reluctant to attempt to fix a problem that has been aggravating fans for years? Maybe it's because it's the only way they have to influence the outcomes of these games. Yes, I understand how conspiracy theory-ish this seems. I always laughed it off when people said the league is rigged, I told them and myself it makes no sense. But just look at all of it. Doesn't any of it seem suspicious to you?
PirateOfPlayTime....I also never paid attention to comments about corruption. I'm now undecided, and going to watch closer about how this is handled. You have valid points. Especially how there is always a panelist defending the league. Too many fans are not really fans of the sport of football, first and foremost. They are fans of their favorite team(s), first and foremost. Way too many comments are really not saying much. I watched many games in bars. So many fans comments after a play truly are quite biased and so flawed. I often root for one team over the other too, but still know how to think objectively while watching. I enjoy seeing the talent, effort, and strategy in each game. Many are so biased and it really hurts their ability to accurately comprehend so much in every game. But this missed call and resulting players and coach's blatant justifiable comments, can't be ignored. Again, it's nice to read such a well written comment. You presented your points like intelligent fans discuss sports. As a student of the game of football, I have spent many hours reading, listening to radio sports shows, and watching videos. The nfl rules committee has a big problem on their hands. Changes have to be at least attempted. Many real fans of this entire sport , all over the country and other countries, are now having to wonder about corruption. Many didn't pay much attention before either, just like you and I.
@@jusayenso8186 I agree about fans just being a team fan first and football fan second. I really enjoy the sport and how it might be the only one where the coaches have such a huge impact on the game and where strategy and planning matter as much as, if not more than, players practicing on the field. I wouldn't say I'm decided about whether the league fixes games or not, but my opinion is this: the league got their BEST refs for this game. These were their highest rated, most trusted, and/or most skilled refs. And none of them threw a flag or even batted an eye on that play. There are only 2 possible options for this: someone with a lot of money told them not to throw a flag that would cost the Rams the game, or the refs really are just that incomprehensibly incompetent. While the latter would be an honest mistake that's forgiveable if the league owns up to it and moves in a direction or correct it, both really push me to give up on the NFL. Either way, the only way it gets fixed is if everyone makes an uproar about it. But that's not going to happen, because you have people defending the refs or simply not caring because they didn't want the Saints to win... NFL fans should want the best team to win, even if it's the Patriots for the 9th time. If all the talk about this no-call dies down within the month, going back to the 2 possibilities from earlier, the NFL either knows now they can get away with stuff that blatant to rig a game, or can just continue allowing incompetent refs with no oversight to control games with their ignorance to the point that games are decided more often by lopsided officiating than by skill, luck, or gameplanning. And everyone refusing to care about it simply due to their opinions about the Saints are setting themselves up for a future where this will happen to their team. The fact I've seen a LOT of people say something to the effect of "This happened to my team a few years ago, it's happened to every team and every year, get over it," just goes to show the sheer ignorance and idiocy of these fans because... if it's happened to every team and happens every year, why on Earth would we not all be on the same side and tell the NFL it's unacceptable?
@@PirateOfPlayTime ...Again, your points show that you are able to process information so well. It's still mind boggling to me, after studying comments for a couple years, how I kept seeing way too many totally useless one liners and/or totally flawed opinions backed by other flawed reasons. But I also know a lot about why this happens. Your last paragraph nailed it!. They are actually saying that 'two wrongs make a right'. I can't write fifty pages here about what I learned by first learning how to think objectively. It still doesn't make problem solving many things "easy", but without continued time consuming efforts needed to problem solve so many daily details, a person has no chance to ever understand endless things we all have to process every day. Yes, most fans really are just fans of teams, not the way more important bigger picture. I re-read your first comment. Your explanation makes sense about the biased thinking fans who keep bringing up the "no call" on that minor l facemask that had no impact on the outcome of yards gained. The odds say that if he was in the pocket looking to pass (a quarterback function, not a ball runner function), a penalty is more likely to be called for incidental contact with his head if he was doing a quarterback function. I'm pretty sure he was running with the ball. I even saw Mike Pereira's interview, and he mentioned the 'obvious' that penalties can be called on most plays. For the most part, refs have the hard task of keeping the game from being 4 hours or more long. I can't argue with that reality. But that final pass interference was way too obvious. I'm waiting to see how this plays out. My guess is that there will be rule changes. This is rightfully getting so much attention by even former players and other analyst's. Imagine if people's supervisors "flagged" them for every little mistake. Same for police writing tickets for every little driving infraction. We all would have lost our license just like football players would be drafted based on least penalized players in college? Not a good idea! I wish all the more knowledgeable sports analysts (many former players who intuitively know much more because they played the game versus spectators) would be blunt and start telling so many fans why they are way too biased and so wrong way too often. But I know one reason why they never did this...biased fans are what's called "a necessary evil" in regards to the business side of professional sports. So many would be personally offended and stop watching, because simpletons really can't handle being correctly told details why they are way too wrong about even so many simple things. Sadly, comments like yours should be the 'norm', but aren't. It's not about being 100% right either. That's impossible. The fact is, most are not even in the ballpark! It's also about the real purpose of social media...to read and learn from others well written points. Obviously, the "fans" are again proving to be a necessary evil in maxing out ratings (volume of participants advertisers pay more money for). The crazy comments about Belichick, Brady and the Patriots dominance are more proof. At or near the top of this long list of crazy comments from "fans" is "I don't care who wins the Superbowl, as long as it's not the Patriots"...and even this gets many thumbs up. Ok....sure thing superfans. Obviously, they don't like or respect what it takes to be the best or even close to the best at anything of real value in life. So pathetically sad, especially because so many commenters like this have handicapped or will handicap their own kids in so many ways. It's almost impossible to make all the right assessments as a parent. But once again, way too many are not even in the ballpark. Off topic? That's what many will reach for straws in saying. Yes...I'll "go there" on a comment section on a sport. Somebody has to teach them. Other's can't and won't because they don't know about the complicated business of reporting.Tip of the iceberg too. I still look forward to the Superbowl. You're comment about football coaches having more influence during games versus other sports was rare. I also have pointed that out in the past. It's so true that if you don't learn to think for yourself, someone else (actually...many other people) will gladly do it for you. (And get paid for doing it in the business world).
Tony Montana the point is the game should of been over I agree brees and the offense has been bad past few games but that’s not what we are arguing the game should of been over or at least the rams some how make a come back with 50 seconds of time left and win then nobody’s mad and it falls on the saints
If you don’t think that missed call cost the Saints their trip to the Super Bowl, then you might be just as oblivious as the refs themselves. It took one of the most obvious missed calls in NFL history for the Rams to even get the ball back. Even the DB knew it was P.I. Game would have been over.
It's sean payton's bad playcalling that put the game in the refs hands. Why are you throwing it 3 times with less than 2 minutes left on the game. Bad coaching plus bad reffing equals a L you have to take home
nat X Sean Peyton called a 3rd down play that didn’t work because his receiver got decked before the ball got there. That’s not bad coaching, that’s bad luck with terrible officiating. Yes, he should have ran it on 1st down, but they ran it on 2nd down, so it wasn’t 3 passes. The question is “Did the refs cost the Saints a trip to the Super Bowl,” and the answer is yes. Of course the Saints could have played better, and so could the Rams. That has nothing to do with the refs missing the most obvious call that would have ended the game and sent the Saints to Atlanta.
Go watch the replay of the pick in OT, the defender hit Drew in the head on that play. It should have been a personal foul but no call. National Rigged League.
Can anyone please mention how the Rams went into hostile territory. Never seen a coach blowing whistle when opponent has the ball. But we gonna just ignore that huh?
Clifton Davis first off that was not a blatant face mask call it was incidental contact that’s not a penalty in the nfl. Second the missed pi call was the worst missed call in nfl history the two are not even comparable
Clifton Davis.... YES, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THAT!!!!! He had it in his mouth hid behind his play sheet. And I heard a whistle being blown while the Rams had the ball. You are absolutely correct. Payton's teams are notoriously dirty. WOW, actually had it in his mouth, CBS camera caught him.
I like Cris Carter but I have to disagree with Chris on the penalty call. Players drop easy catches, QB's miss easy passes. Ref's are humans and they miss calls or make calls that should not. It's unfortunate but come on. let us give the Rams some credit for a great game in New Orleans.
Having a chance to win and actually winning are two different things. The game would have been over period. This wasn't some judgment call this was obvious. Soon they will have to go back to reviewing penalties because it's getting so bad. I'm not a fan of either team and I was rooting for the Rams. Both teams go bad officiating. Maybe review in the final two minutes with help but it's horrible calls all game
DaRealCjizzle how do you know they would had won? Because if they called the facemask the whole outcome of the game is changed so how can you say they still win?
Aqib Talib called it. If the Saints had run three times only about 40 seconds would have been left and the Rams wouldn't have any timeouts but they put the ball in the air and it cost them.
The ratings argument doesn't even make sense and infact makes your argument weaker. The superbowl that would have got more national ratings would have been undoubtedly a Brady vs Brees matchup. This is not even mentioning the absurd play calling the saints were running that gave this controversy a chance to even happen. The league didn't tell the saints to keep throwing the ball when they had the game in hand. The only way games are "fixed" is by the point spreads and Vegas, these people just use our vices to take our money...thats the only way they are fixed. And if you don't believe me then you need to take a long look at the history of the NFL.
So nobody wanna talk about the face mask on Goff that would of gave the Rams 1st and gold before any of this even happened. Then after that they still had a opportunity to stop the rams from Tying the game and they didn’t then they got the ball 1st in OT and still failed to score then they failed to stop the rams from getting in field goal range so cry me a river you lost because you didn’t Execute 😒
Allen Wright I’m a saints fan I agree . I want real honest football . That might not been as no where visible as what was seen bro . That was extremely obvious at a big time
@@Matt0719g you can always look to those types of calls being missed several times in EVERY NFL game. However, as important the missed call for pass interference was, that non call for face mask was potentially equally as detrimental.......I suspect some Saints fans want to gloss over that fact (not you per say)
The Saints were out played and out coached so that non call cost them the game. What about the bad call that almost cost the Rams from winning the game before that? How come that isn’t being talked about? Are we supposed to believe the Saints played well in that game?
The Falcons vs Patriots is the best example of playing safe. Although they were hitting everything all game, they chose to throw when two runs would have won the SB. Anything can go wrong, even for Brees. The Saints only ran for 50 yards! There's the real problem.
nope, with todays rules the saint never win that nfc championship in 2009 and minnesota wins their first superbowl. of course Favre wasn't a p$ssy like the qbs of today. Someone breathes on brady and its a flag,
Seth LaCombe late hits and hitting a player high-low we’re still illegal in ‘09. Saints paid their fine and did their time as will the Rams although only a $26,000. League wanted saints to win in ‘09 but not so much in ‘19. I’m just saying saints fans should be thankful they were in the leagues good grace at some point!
I think CC discredits Nick's opinion a not as this "I played in the NFL, so your opinion is usually wrong"......CC makes valid points but he needs to stop preaching it as gospel without always discounting Nick's opinion
I wouldn't go so far as fire CC, He just needs to be much more objective.....Nick makes very valid arguments and has legit points of view...CCs way isn't the only way
The bad call didn't end the game for the Saints. It sure did extend the game. The Saints had the ball to start OT and couldn't get it done there either. Even with the bad call, they had a chance to close it out and couldn't. Even after that bad no-call, you have to prevent 2 field goals or score a TD. You didn't do either.
@@tiyeeshaphillipsblackqueen2986 absolutely, they need to rework the review policies on penalties....both those games yesterday were a joke and the wrong teams are in the Super Bowl
@@tiyeeshaphillipsblackqueen2986 chiefs were holding gronk 24/7. and mahomes throwwing it on prayer is gonna hurt yall next year. dont be mad. bad calls both ways. great game!! only a couple more years of the brady!!!!!!!!!!!😁😁😁
NO ONE got robbed today. I am a sports bettor. ALL major sports that can be bet on........are fixed to varying degrees. MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA, tennis, soccer, etc. Hate to break it to you, but this "blown" call was more obvious than OJ's guilt. This particular play is a GREAT example and a lithmus test for those of you who refuse to believe sports are fixed. The DB committed at least 3 fouls on the wide receiver----on ONE play----that could have been called---two of which were automatic 15 yard penalties and automatic 1st downs at the 1 yard line......... Now, go watch the Patriots game and see how they were aided on their final 2 drives. Brady throws a drive-killing incomplete pass, and the refs throw a late flag for a phantom "roughing the passer". Automatic 15 yards and 1st down. Pats go on to score go ahead TD. This is very real guys. Right now, you have a government shutdown and a demon in the White House. America needs hope, something uplifting. What better than to have the "Patriots" in the biggest TV spectacle of the year? I could go on and on, but some of you will never accept the truth of how you are manipulated............this is called "bread and circus". It dates back to ancient Rome. Gladiators matches were used by the emperor to distract from hunger, poverty and corruption. The same tactics are used on you today, as we speak. The NFL = WWE. Theater. Nothing more.........
clearly fixed. The calls in the KC game were disgusting, and theres no way not at least 1 official doesnt see the blantant interference in the saints game. It wasn't missed, it was intentional.
I grew up loving to watch Chris Carter play. My favorite player by far. I was so excited that he got a show, but the saying, “Don’t meet your idols” couldn’t be more true. His logic is always skewed coming from the viewpoint of a wide receiver. And when Nick makes the clearly better argument, Chris never agrees or at least acknowledges the sound logic. I feel bad for Nick, it must be tough trying to argue correct points with Chris day after day. Like talking to a brick wall. This show has taken away any desire to actually meet this guy one day.
But they werent, so did Goff. Saints CB MWilliams last year followed the rules and the Minneapolis Miracle happened and this year the Rams CB messed up but still got away with it and the win. Moral of the story is the rules dont matter at the end of the game.
How are the Saints going to complain when they had THREE 4th down pass interferences called against Pittsburgh that were TERRIBLE calls that won the Saints the game.
I am just happy the Saints got robbed due to lack of a ref call. Remember in 2009 NFC conference championship the refs gave the game to the Saints on a silver platter and robbed the Vikings of one of their best seasons in their history. The Saints roughed Favre throughout the game (Bountygate) - no penalty calls. The Saints had interfered on numerous Favre pass attempts - no penalty calls. The refs called a fair catch on 4th down by the Saints when it was clear the ball hit the turf first. I could go on and on but suffice it say I am happy as a bumble bee to see the Saints lose this conference championship the same way they were given it 10 years ago. Bitter sweet!
I agree 100% and it's funny to actually see the reactions of people realizing that the NFL has been rigged for years and years. It's like their eyes were opened to reality.
They weren’t complaining when they were on the benefiting side of a no call or a wrong call. You can’t pick and choose when you want to cry about it or not.
If he turns around, that’s a pick six. It was a terrible throw by Drew Brees and a terrible play by the corner. I actually don’t mind the no call because to me, it was like them saying “we’re not rewarding either of you for making a bad play”
That's exactly the reason why he did what he did, dude was totally burned, out of position. The ref need to do his job and make the call, not judge plays and determine what play deserves a call or not.
I loved the NFL but ever since Roger Goodell became the Commish, this kind of calls happened way more often and it’s done on purpose for the $$$$$$$$$! LA Rams vs Patriots round 2 brings more $$$ than saints vs chiefs no doubt!
The Saints lost this game because they could not put the nail in the coffin. They had many chances to end this game but did not. 1 call who cares. You should not have been in that situation to give a human who is not perfect and makes millions of mistakes to decide the game for you.
@@Titanbrotha00 Yes your right. Should have been called no doubt about it. But Saints could have put this game away without letting a ref decide this game. Everyone knows that refs will favor a team and make stupid or no calls at all.
@@flynn1504 From a strategic standpoint it was unwise for Payton to not force the Rams to burn those two timeouts. I seriously question that motive! That was the ultimate undoing based on strategy. The non call was huge in that it would've given an automatic 1st down with time to run the clock down. Unfortunately, it came late in the game where the outcome wasn't decided yet with Superbowl aspirations at stake.
@@Titanbrotha00 Yeah he should have ran the ball and scored. Give the ball to the rams with 40-50 seconds with no timeout and all this would have been prevented. I would never want a ref to decide a outcome of a game for you.
You can't tell me that call was responsible for the Saints losing. That call was SO atrocious they lost ALL momentum in the game. They already felt like they had been beaten.
yea it was a bad call! the bad call did not cause the saints to lose the game because the game continued in overtime. the saints had a chance in overtime to stop the rams and they could not.
@@ovilacote4778 you don't understand do you....call the correct penalty...saints milk the clock and kick the fg with no time left...the non call dictated the game by the refs...should not have happened....
@@tracys2354 bad calls have been happening since the beginning of football. the good teams find another way to win the game they do not whine about it.
People always want to find one call to say it cost them the game. Every little thing you do and every little mistake you make is costing you the game. Sean Payton need to learn how not to be so greedy. He's always trying to embarrass the other team. What goes around come backs around ✌
No. It was a bad call but they did that throughout the game. Nothing is perfect and no one is perfect. So that's why when we take on a task we have to do the best we can because we never know where the chips may fall. Had they been ahead they wouldn't have to worry about that call. But being that they were behind it was a big deal. And apparently the Saints don't remember all the bad calls that were made when they played Philadelphia Eagles, but you didn't hear them crying.
Disagree wid Chris on this one here's why as a falcon fan all I've heard since the Superbowl is that if we wud have ran 3 times an kicked a field goal after the homes catch we wud have won the Superbowl which I agree wid how can u be on Peyton side for not doing the same thing bad play calling cost them the game at the end
Look... The non face mask call that the refs didnt call for the Rams forcing them into a field goal to tie it at 20 instead of scoring a touchdown.... let's say they call it and Rams get their Touchdown. Then let's give the Saints there call and give the Saints their touchdown. The Rams would hit their 3 pt field goal to tie it and send it to Overtime anyways. And the Saints did get the ball first and had a chance to win in overtime. Rams make interception, hit game winning FG... Rams win either way.
Payton mad now but he wasnt mad when they called that phantom pass interference against the Steelers and joe Haden that put Steelers out the playoffs. So get over it.
No way in the world that refs missed that call cause they didn’t see the pass interference. They most definitely saw it, they just made a chose to ignore it and not call it. #straightcheatedtheSaints
At that point in the game, New Orleans throwing the ball incomplete on first down has to rank up there with Seattle on the one yard line and not handing it off to Marshawn Lynch.
There were three - count 'em, three - missed face mask calls against the Saints in that game, two in the first half and one in the second, all caught by the television cameras, which if called by the refs could and probably would have changed the course of the game. That the PI call was missed just starts to balance the books. What goes around comes around. Karma.
Those were incidental facemasks! Good God people, learn the rules of the game... the NFL does not recognize incidental facemasks as penalties anymore. The only league that does is high school leagues.
@@jaket459 - If the tackler merely swipes his hand across the facemask, then perhaps it qualifies as "incidental". However, if the tackler grasps the grill and turns the head, whether with "intent" or not, and whether quickly released or not, then you must call the penalty. With all the emphasis on safety in the game today, to not call a head turning facemask penalty, and to dismiss it as "incidental", is ridiculous. The definition of "incidental" cannot include a grasp that turns the head. If you are right and the NFL does not recognize those as penalties, at what point do they? The Eagles Nick Foles had his helmet nearly pulled from his head in a recent game and no penalty was called; was that a correct non-call of an "incidental" facemask?
@@JohnWesleyHardin1853 if it is not the cause of the tackle, then it is going to be incidental. That is why you see all these no calls on face mask penalties.
That ref had time before that next play to throw that flag. He chose not too! Commissioner needs to grow some balls and hold them accountable. Commissioner over there watching the Chiefs game.
Your "NFC CHAMPS" never led the entire game until after the no-call that kept the Saints from winning. There would not have been time for Rams to get the ball after a Saints FG if the call was made. They were robbed.
No chance they could score with less than a minute left in the game? Have you forgotten what happened last year with Diggs? The game is never over until the time is out, especially when the Saints are involved.
@@chickenquesadilla8139 1st and goal 1 minute 45 seconds on the clock. Saints kneel down, Rams use their only time out. Saints kneel down two more times and run the clock down to 3 seconds before calling a timeout of their own. Lutz, who has missed one field goal all season, kicks a field goal that is shorter than an extra point and ends the game. Even the commentators were saying that was the end of the game if the refs call that penalty.
Lets acknowledge that bad calls or no calls happen often during games,just ask any coach. It really comes down to timing. You will see bad calls happen in the first quarter when the score is 0-0. So when a bad call happens then the coaches will complain to the refs and then move on. The problem with this Saints-Rams no call was that it happened in the fourth quarter and with a tight score. This is what made this no call stand out in comparison to if it had happened in the first quarter. Again,it's about the timing of the bad call or no call.
Theres a petition for a rematch of the Saints vs Rams Over 530,000 people have signed it in one day. In the NFL rule book it says the NFL commissioner has the authority to make a rematch of a game if the game was unfair.
Justin Williams lmao are you kidding me? Why would they have a rematch? So if the saints lose again they gonna have another rematch? Get over it. You guys had so many opportunities to win that game without it even having to come down to that.
The "roughing call that never was"... THAT'S THE CALL THAT KEPT THE DRIVE ALIVE. Games are fixed folks. I've always said it since the 2000's, people would laugh it of, some because they didn't believe it, some just didn't want to believe it, but now, it's so obvious. All sports have outcomes rigged via the refs, they are the ones who swing momentum. Why do you think there's a "guest referee" on all the telecasts now??? It's to finesse the viewers minds at home, and "headquarters" make "the final decisions". Ha, headquarters...🙄The Rams left a loyal fan base in St. Louis for population and TV revenue. Nothing more. Now, they're rewarded with a Superbowl trip. Patriots, same way, the League makes more money off the Patriots than almost any franchise. Its disgusting.
Yeah Dale, I hate the outcomes aren't true competition. Wrestling is one thing, but avg. working people and athletes work too hard in football to leave games in the hands of the ref.
Why is there not an option. Especially in the playoffs to challenge whether there was a missed call or flag on the play. We can challenge whether someone was down but we can’t challenge whether there was a blatant pass interference.
if Lewis was allowed to catch the ball it would have been a reviewable play...but he gets shellacked and prevented from even touching the ball but that is not reviewable....does not make any sense
For the first time in 50 years I will not watch the superbowl. Let me start by saying I'm not a fan of either team. Long struggling jets fan but after the tragedy of this weekend I cannot watch. The absolute injustice layed on the saints and their fans is an abomination. I don't know how true this is however if the officials in question was a player and a fan of the rams an investigation is due now. This was truly the most horrifying non call in NFL history. If I were the saints organization I would push this to the limits. The NFL front office should be ashamed. Shame shame! I'm done with the NFL.
Karma. Saints have bad karma since Bounty Gate against the Vikings. I thought maybe it had evened out after saint's lost to the vikes on that so called miracle play but I guess not. Bad karma is still with them.
The point everyone is trying make that you are missing is that it shouldn't have come down to OT. The game would've been won in regulation had the PI call have been made.
The saints were robbed. If the refs would have called the pass interference then the Saints would ran the clock to about 3 seconds left own the clock and hit a easy 20 yard field goal
@@dexter9065 Its okay Dexter, do you need a puppy to hold? Have you been offended in some way? Get over it Nancy, put your big boy pants on and quit your bitching.
There were other mistakes during that play, too. Before Brees threw the pass two of his Saints' linemen could have been called for Holding or Hands-in-the-Face. Coleman's PI would have been offset by at least one offensive penalty against the Saints. Result would been the same as what happened - fourth down.... kick the fieldgoal ... the rest is history. And why hasn't anyone noticed that Coleman was in position to simply follow the flight of the ball and pick it off for an interception?
It's true that if the PI call was made, the Saints would have almost certainly won the game. It's also true that bad playcalling and bad execution throughout the final 2 minutes and in OT also cost the Saints the game. Both of these realities are very frustrating. And as for the PI, it's not only frustrating in relation to the outcome of the game, but just the fact that it was so utterly blatant, with multiple refs staring right at it, and refusing to call it. It felt like a kick to the stomach from the officials, and I think there's really no other explanation than corruption. They KNEW it was a PI and refused to call it.
Come on come on quit crying with the Saints coach you know the saints were in angels in there the saints were cheating by letting all everybody have whistles to disrupt the game everybody seen the face mask on the Rams quarterback when he tried to run in at the 5-yard line the stop him from getting into the endzone I don't hear you guys crying about that no one says anything about that there is no reason to cry about all of this the Saints got the ball in overtime they were moving the ball downfield haven't had an opportunity to win the game Drew Brees throws an interception the Rams get the ball they score kick a field goal win in all anybody wants to do is just cry about it you guys in the Saints coach needs to get over it they had an opportunity to win and they blew it congratulations Rams well done
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Did the referees cost the Saints a chance at the Super Bowl?
No they didn't cost the game. why? because it happen to other teams before so this is not the first time
I think so. That play changed the outcome of the game.
Correction: that missed call changed the outcome of the game.
There was another missed call besides that one also
No but they will cost the rams In the super bowl , karma will be glorious - love true saints fan
Absolutely it did
I'm kind of stunned at all the apologists for the refs today. I've been watching games for decades and never seen a blatant non-call like that. For the first time, I am starting to believe the whole "NFL is fixed" mantra.
4Stanzas....Too many fans are really not fans of the sport of football. They are mostly a fan of their favorite team. Big difference. True fans of the sport love seeing all the talent, effort and strategy. They may root for a team in each game, but still watch the game in a more objective way versus the comments I always hear from most of them in bars where I've watched. Way too much blind biased comments after each play. I try to learn about all the strategy and details in every game. This is what makes football so fun to watch. The nfl rules committee has to make more changes and I think they will. Any change is better than leaving it the way it is. No change will completely fix this, but the rules committee is qualified to come up with an improvement.
4Stanzas Its been obvious for years. How many teams win after a terrist attack or natural disaster?
There is literally no reason why a flag shouldnt have been thrown.
Malik Dawson if the league called to say it should’ve been called then it should’ve been called
Pass interference and helmet to helmet.
Of course there is a reason. The league is fixed, rigged, it's a scam
Pass interference, helmet-to-helmet, and hitting a defenseless receiver
Saints should have never been in that situation. They had many chances to put this game away.. Not a ram or saints fan but blaming a referee who makes so many mistakes all year long is stupid. Saints lost cause their own mistakes.
I've never been NFL is rigged guy but this is getting rediculous. We see game after game season after season certain players and teams being favored by the refs, it's undeniable and it needs to stop. It wasn't just in the Saints game it was also in the Patriots win, do you think Cam Newton would've gotten that phantom roughing call Brady got at the end of that game because I don't.
The same Refs missed two P.I in a row on the cheifs, and that pick play. There were bad calls all around in that game, but were even.
Yea That Wasnt Roughing The Passer, But The Saints No PI Call Is Just Ridiculous Cuz It Could Of Potential Won Them The Game. And Not To Mention, He Could Of Seriously Injured Tommy Lee Lewis. But Neither Was Helmet To Helmet Or Anything Ever Called. Horrific.
yea its rigged cause Goodell and the nfl wanted the Patriots in 8 straight afc appearances. gtfoh
Same here. Now I know why people feel the NFL is rigged. I know refs can't see everything but that pi was so open and clear. How could u not see it?
I'm a Pats fan, was watching the game at a sports bar in Boston and everyone in the bar was mystified by the roughing the passer call. A light tap on the sternum and Brady doesn't even fall down should not generate a pass interference call.
I live in Germany and will be canceling my GamePass subscription.
This was the last straw!!
Bye!
See ya..ain’t gonna miss ya l
cajunmanDan same
All you L. A fans have a rude awakening coming, FYall
You'll be back. You'll see...
You can talk until you are blue in the face, it boils down to not making the call on an OBVIOUS TO THE ENTIRE WORLD call. End of story.
Yea bale the Aints out again by the officials! Karma!!!!!!
Sorry all those people that talk about the non call no nothing about football, every game has dozens of non calls that should have been called,a non call is a non issue,the issue is when refs make calls when the game is on the line ,especially when it does not involve the play or when its questionable or when they have been letting it go all game, for example that questionable pass interference call that cost the jags last year AFC game, the holding call that cost the Falcons the superbowl,the offsides call that cost the chiefs this year, I bet my friend on the chiefs n Patriots but I wont pay him because the game was not played fairly, the chiefs were good enough to beat the Pat's not good enuf to beat pats plus refs, stay home rams you're not good enuf to beat the pats plus refs, interesting that the refs in last years superbowl because they didnt help the Pat's win r no longer allowed to ref pats games
@@wholesaletrading1414 questionable calls that get called or don't is one thing. This is in a category all by itself.
@CJ Dillon missed calls all throughout the game on both sides, this one one have sealed the deal, and it was obvious. No whining here .............................son.
Gotta kelp playing. Defense could’ve stopped them from scoring but they didn’t 🤷🏽♂️
Way to spin cheating when the player who committed the penalty admitted he intentionally interfered. This is not up for discussion.
Thank you!
Well, BRADY said he didn't fumble the ball with the TUCK RULE GARBAGE are you saying BRADY DIDN'T FUMBLE? Which was pretty obvious to everyone except NFL OFFICIALS AND PATS FANS. C'MON MANNNNNN
@@bajainelowkie1077 that was a fumble on Brady against Oakland. Just like the Saints got robbed yesterday
@ brees is better then rodgers lol how many playoff wins does rodgers have lol
Katie Caddle at least Rodgers is clutch when it matters at the end of the game which Brees is not. So no, he is not better than Rodgers
That call was very easy that was a clear robbery. #rigged
So was the face mask on Goff... They didn't call that either, took points off the board..
One Kxng I’ll be completely honest I didn’t see that play and I’m not a saints fan . Just calling it how I see it and there’s been something funny to happen at the end of every game this postseason smh. But this call here I have no clue how a ref would not call that
So did Brees and the Saints not get the ball first in OT with every opportunity to win the game?
Arren Cuyler it shouldn’t have went to OT. Just like in the chiefs game a penalty cost them that one, this penalty was supposed to cost the rams. That defender made ABSOLUTELY NO PLAY on the ball
@@The2KGOAT Yeah but still refs make bad calls...it's part of the game. The missed PI was a huge no call but it didn't rob the saints and cost them the game. The Drew Brees pick in OT did
Nothing else matters. It was a blatantly obvious call. That cost them the game.
Yeah, ok. Patriots marched down the field and won. Saints... intercepted... it is the refs fault we lost!
Sinbreaker they probably wouldn’t even need to go to OT if they called the penalty
Yea, that was an obviously bad call to throw the ball. What was coach thinking.
GD3RD 77 Tommie Lee Lewis possibly could have scored if the defender didn’t whack him like that. So that play determined everything.
@@depressedaleks7351 That is the thing, "probably", who knows what could have happened. They could have been stopped, kicked a FG anyways that might have missed, a fumble, an interception. There is no telling what could have happened. All we know, Brees had a chance to win... and they lost it.
that was totally unfair especially in a playoff game, I am not a football expert but certainly enjoy the game, I have a suggestion for the NFL, during the play offs each team should have 1 red contesting flag that they can toss to contest a referee's call, the sanctity and importance of a playoff game makes this a fair solution in my eyes, that play call should have been over ruled. by the way I was not rooting for the saints, if you agree that this simple rule is viable and would do good, please LIKE this
Did the facemask grabs on Goff or Cook no-calls bother you too? Or how about the three Brees delay of game no-calls? No problem with those?
I like that idea but I want to make an alteration. When teams play the Patriots they should be allowed to have 6 red flags to contest the refs calls.
all bad calls are un acceptable to me, wasn't itemizing here, my point simply is that a blatant from any angle bad call in a play off game should be reviewed@@theDavidChannel1
David Duarte those calls would not determine the outcome of the game. Rams get the face mask wow they score a touchdown making it 24-20 then if the saints would have gotten the pass interference call and we scored from the 3 yard line it makes it 27-24 without the rams getting a chance for the ball again. saints win anyway you look at it. That call legit cost the saints that game.
@@justinwhite215 umm if you add up everything the guy said the saints wouldn't have 27 points (2 face masks and 3 delays of games) you can't just think the saints walk away with the same amount of points when you call those penalties for the rams... Heck they finally call one holding call on the Saints offense and that killed the drive so please don't assume the Saints win this game because we honestly would never know.
I'm done with the NFL. If your done let them know. It's rigged
Absolutely!!! I'm down like 4 flat tires.
Totally rigged.
I’m done. Til next season lol
Well, there sure are spending a lot of $$$$ in LA for those teams to move there!
Gotta get some return.
@Love one Another The thing is there are too many brainless people that buy into the rigged system and will defend it.
The NFL trying to get that L.A market but nobody cares about the rams
Right that's what it's all about $$$$
Absolutely! The NFL has its east coast /west coast Superbowl for the highest ratings/$$$$$.
Tony the Lakers Fan U sound stupid there number on iG or going up fast and sport shops are selling fast on gear
Monster well yea, California is fair weather bandwagon nation.
vinnythewebsurfer Man he haven’t had a team in a long time let’s us enjoy it just because we support them regardless don’t mean bandwagon
Nobody is arguing about the decision making, we are talking about the refs and the call. Not the saints game plan we can do that in a different segment but this one is about the missed calls. All the missed calls but especially the blatant helmet/pass interference. Coming from a panthers fan the saints should be in the super bowl.
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J let me try to make my point that it was the most egregious missed call I remember seeing but sure we can talk about all the missed calls and how the nfl needs to work on officiating. I think the issue with whataboutism is that in the situation you’re talking about it may not have been as clear cut. We know refs are gonna miss calls but the issue is missing obvious calls I’m willing to look for what specific play you’re talking about to see if it was also blatant but I think the media is up and arms about this is because it was an obvious miss on the play I’m talking about
newclique I see where you’re getting at
you can't tell me that its 100% that they would've scored. they likely would have but there is a chance they would have fumbled, threw a interception, etc. so get over it. every single team has been in the same position
@@edmundjones8500 That's a major part of the problem from my understanding (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) is that after the two minute warning and in the final two minutes of the game plays are not reviewable and this needs to be changed and what happened with the Saints vs Rams game is proof there needs to be changed in that rule.I understand they are trying to control the flow of the game so it does't drag out forever but at the same time the rules need to fair and give teams some recourse when something like that happens so it doesn't cost them a game. I have no doubt the Saints would have won considering the PI call would have made it first and goal with four downs to put the ball in and the Saints scoring would have put the game out of reach for the Rams to be able win.
This Game was Rigged...The NFL is trying to help the LA Market
Eric Thornton Naw Pats vs Chiefs was rigged.
@@tiyeeshaphillipsblackqueen2986 I Live in Los Angeles (Inglewood) to be exact and half of this city can care less about the Rams. That game seemed Rigged.
Mario Vega I feel you, that’s why they’re saying it’s rigged. To generate interest and bring in LA money. Idc either way, football is dying, I’ve been playing fifa lol
True. Most fans in LA are Raider fans. They are trying to get these fans to switch. Not happening.
Yeah the refs made sure the saints threw the ball instead of running it like they should have and made sure the Rams DB hit the Saints WR.... you people are dumb.
Didn't have a dog in this fight, but seems like obvious game management by the NFL officials (again...)
It doesn’t really matter. It’s clear the nfl wants Tom Brady to win this super bowl
John Keable Lol, or maybe Tom Brady wants to win the superbowl.
@@GuiltyHAL343 come on now, you know the nfl bows down to brady and wants him to do better than others.
Al Capone I remember a time in the NFL where Brady was accused of deflating footballs in order for him to win and Brady took it to court and won. Then Roger Goodell was salty about it and made the judge over turn it without any evidence to get him suspended for 4 games. Right there is an instance of when the NFL tried to hold Brady down on the stupidest thing ever. What instances do you remember where the NFL bowed to Brady? I’d love to hear it.
But they hate Brady & the Patriots😕
D Ellis naw they just act like it. Kraft and Goodell are good friends
Cris Carter I get the point , but being wrong is okay. The correct decision is RUN 3 times. Whoever is in the box or not, chances of fumbling vs chances of getting picked off the same way Tom Brady did in the end zone when the Chiefs put Reggie Ragland on a spy is just as possible. Take their timeouts and be smart. Cmon CC
Cc thinks he’s always right .. he’s getting ridiculous.
Thank you!!!!! These idiots in the comments are ignorant
So.. because Sean Payton called the right play that would have either been a touchdown (or at least 1st down), he STILL should have ran it 3 times to prevent this type of non-call from happening? What?! I would hate to have your brain and reasoning skills.. lol
Moderately Moderate it has nothing to do with Non Calls being made or anything. It’s about playing to win. At that time and moment they should have run the ball cause worst case scenario the rams get the ball back less than a minute no time outs Jared Goff is the QB(he’s good don’t get me wrong but not TD in sub min no timeouts good) and Todd Gurley has been absolutely terrible all game and CJ hasn’t been great but ok. I’d love that scenario if I’m the Saints
appetite for destruction if he made the right call why is his team not in the super bowl..? And don’t bring up the PI. Show me you aren’t weak and actually know what you’re talking about. Measure the percentages of a team scoring with NO TIMEOUTS. Vs. timeouts.. thank hou
Not going to see the tainted bowl this year . Wrong team going to the super bowl.
Agree it should be saints against chiefs.
Why exactly should the Chiefs be there? Let me guess... the roughing the passer penalty? How about the bs holding call that nullified a Kelce fumble recovered by the Pats. The plethora of mugging that Patriots receivers faced when trying to make big catches without one flag being thrown. If anything the refs were completely favoring the Chiefs in that game. They were “letting them play” for only 1 defense out there. The NFL would have rather seen a Chiefs-Rams Super Bowl and that’s why they chose the incompetent Blakeman crew to officiate the AFC Championship game, which is the only ref crew that Brady has a losing record with.
Don’t worry we understand ...it’s always the wrong team when yours did another great choke job 2 years in a row
Either way the league ain't gonna let the Patriots lose if it comes down to a call
Vasilios Katsieris how about when a chiefs receiver blasted a dB while they where in man coverage and the receiver he was supposed to cover goes for a touchdown
No need to equivocate about this, the wrong team is in the super bowl this year.
The wrong teams are in the super bowl.
Saints are the we woulda beat them champs!
Drew Johnson to be fair, it wasn’t guaranteed that the Saints would have made the field goal
@@TheRoguesource I mean they made a longer field goal after the missed call, of course it's not guaranteed, but it's hard to dispute that the it dramatically improved the rams chances of winning the game.
TheRoguesource of course not but they could have scored a TD if Tommie Lee Lewis was not whacked like that. Do you see how that works? If he’d caught the ball, he walks into the end zone. Game over literally.
Everybody keeps saying it was a missed call. It wasn't a missed call, it was a deliberate no-call.
Stop blaming this on the Ref. The Rams Defense was on point. This was any body game. The Saints won the coin toss that defense was on killing Brees get over it the best team won.
I like the point Nick made 👍
me too for the first time f ever
I think CC forgets that the Seahawks didn’t run the ball.. or that the falcons didn’t run the ball after the Julio Jones catch in SB51.. that’s what happens when you don’t run. You put your defense in a difficult, sometimes impossible, spot later.
I will not being watching the Super Bowl due to corrupt officiating!!! I will go snow skiing, no lift lines on Super Bowl Sunday!!! It’s time to move on= Pickleball!!!!!!!!!
No one cried for the Falcons when Roddy White was held on a 4th down in the 2012 NFC championship game against the 49ers. It’s football. Crying about it won’t retroactively make your team win.
enough "crying" can get the league's attention and tell them that fans of the NFL want a rule change
I've never thought the NFL is rigged before yesterday. I've always thought football is just too chaotic to rig like the WWE or many other sports. But I think they went a little too far this time and now people like me are starting to buy into the theory that it is rigged.
It's clear that if that penalty was called as it should have been, the Saints end up being ahead by 3 or 7 points with anywhere from 30 to less than 5 seconds on the clock with no timeouts for the Rams. Everyone knows this and the ONLY people disagreeing are people who are either biased for the Rams or against the Saints (people are also complaining about the missed "facemask" on Goff on the previous drive, but a: he didn't grab or pull the facemask, b: that was incidental, not a penalty anymore, c: the refs missed multiple, MULTIPLE holds and PIs on the Rams throughout the game and the officiating was all-in-all evenly bad through the first 58 minutes). Every single human being watching it on TV or in the stadium saw it and knew for a fact it was interference with helmet to helmet the instant it happened. Isn't it suspicious that there are 7 refs, at least 4 of which were right there looking directly at it, in person, with an unobstructed view of it, with a couple of them just a few dozen feet away, and not one of them saw enough to throw a flag? What possible explanation could there be for why all these people didn't throw a flag unless they were specifically told not to?
Isn't it suspicious that LA is a huge market that the NFL has barely tapped, and the year the league moves 2 teams there they both go from bad to really good and the following year one of them ends up in the Super Bowl directly because of this officiating mistake?
Go watch all the talk show videos on RUclips about it. In every single one, there's one guy saying it cost the Saints the game, and another defending the refs and/or blaming the Saints for the loss and for not overcoming it. The NFL has to have someone in every segment defending the refs and downplaying the importance of the call and convincing people it was a more fair game than they remember because if everyone gets wise to the fact the refs rigged this game, someone will find hard evidence and the media will spread the news like wildfire and the NFL will be gone by the end of the year and a lot of people will go to jail.
Why is it the only thing in the game coaches cannot challenge are penalties? If the ref throws a flag or decides not to throw a flag, there's no way for any coach or player to do anything about it. If a ref wants a penalty or wants no penalty, he can just decide whether to throw a flag and that's the final say. Isn't it a little suspicious that despite the fact bad calls have been becoming a growing problem for years and years now, the league hasn't introduced anything that would give the refs accountability and oversight from anyone other than the league's own officiating office? Why would they be so reluctant to attempt to fix a problem that has been aggravating fans for years? Maybe it's because it's the only way they have to influence the outcomes of these games.
Yes, I understand how conspiracy theory-ish this seems. I always laughed it off when people said the league is rigged, I told them and myself it makes no sense. But just look at all of it. Doesn't any of it seem suspicious to you?
PirateOfPlayTime....I also never paid attention to comments about corruption. I'm now undecided, and going to watch closer about how this is handled. You have valid points. Especially how there is always a panelist defending the league.
Too many fans are not really fans of the sport of football, first and foremost. They are fans of their favorite team(s), first and foremost. Way too many comments are really not saying much. I watched many games in bars. So many fans comments after a play truly are quite biased and so flawed. I often root for one team over the other too, but still know how to think objectively while watching. I enjoy seeing the talent, effort, and strategy in each game. Many are so biased and it really hurts their ability to accurately comprehend so much in every game. But this missed call and resulting players and coach's blatant justifiable comments, can't be ignored.
Again, it's nice to read such a well written comment. You presented your points like intelligent fans discuss sports. As a student of the game of football, I have spent many hours reading, listening to radio sports shows, and watching videos. The nfl rules committee has a big problem on their hands. Changes have to be at least attempted. Many real fans of this entire sport , all over the country and other countries, are now having to wonder about corruption. Many didn't pay much attention before either, just like you and I.
@@jusayenso8186 I agree about fans just being a team fan first and football fan second. I really enjoy the sport and how it might be the only one where the coaches have such a huge impact on the game and where strategy and planning matter as much as, if not more than, players practicing on the field.
I wouldn't say I'm decided about whether the league fixes games or not, but my opinion is this: the league got their BEST refs for this game. These were their highest rated, most trusted, and/or most skilled refs. And none of them threw a flag or even batted an eye on that play. There are only 2 possible options for this: someone with a lot of money told them not to throw a flag that would cost the Rams the game, or the refs really are just that incomprehensibly incompetent.
While the latter would be an honest mistake that's forgiveable if the league owns up to it and moves in a direction or correct it, both really push me to give up on the NFL.
Either way, the only way it gets fixed is if everyone makes an uproar about it. But that's not going to happen, because you have people defending the refs or simply not caring because they didn't want the Saints to win... NFL fans should want the best team to win, even if it's the Patriots for the 9th time.
If all the talk about this no-call dies down within the month, going back to the 2 possibilities from earlier, the NFL either knows now they can get away with stuff that blatant to rig a game, or can just continue allowing incompetent refs with no oversight to control games with their ignorance to the point that games are decided more often by lopsided officiating than by skill, luck, or gameplanning. And everyone refusing to care about it simply due to their opinions about the Saints are setting themselves up for a future where this will happen to their team.
The fact I've seen a LOT of people say something to the effect of "This happened to my team a few years ago, it's happened to every team and every year, get over it," just goes to show the sheer ignorance and idiocy of these fans because... if it's happened to every team and happens every year, why on Earth would we not all be on the same side and tell the NFL it's unacceptable?
@@PirateOfPlayTime ...Again, your points show that you are able to process information so well. It's still mind boggling to me, after studying comments for a couple years, how I kept seeing way too many totally useless one liners and/or totally flawed opinions backed by other flawed reasons. But I also know a lot about why this happens. Your last paragraph nailed it!. They are actually saying that 'two wrongs make a right'. I can't write fifty pages here about what I learned by first learning how to think objectively. It still doesn't make problem solving many things "easy", but without continued time consuming efforts needed to problem solve so many daily details, a person has no chance to ever understand endless things we all have to process every day. Yes, most fans really are just fans of teams, not the way more important bigger picture.
I re-read your first comment. Your explanation makes sense about the biased thinking fans who keep bringing up the "no call" on that minor l facemask that had no impact on the outcome of yards gained. The odds say that if he was in the pocket looking to pass (a quarterback function, not a ball runner function), a penalty is more likely to be called for incidental contact with his head if he was doing a quarterback function. I'm pretty sure he was running with the ball. I even saw Mike Pereira's interview, and he mentioned the 'obvious' that penalties can be called on most plays. For the most part, refs have the hard task of keeping the game from being 4 hours or more long. I can't argue with that reality. But that final pass interference was way too obvious. I'm waiting to see how this plays out. My guess is that there will be rule changes. This is rightfully getting so much attention by even former players and other analyst's.
Imagine if people's supervisors "flagged" them for every little mistake. Same for police writing tickets for every little driving infraction. We all would have lost our license just like football players would be drafted based on least penalized players in college? Not a good idea!
I wish all the more knowledgeable sports analysts (many former players who intuitively know much more because they played the game versus spectators) would be blunt and start telling so many fans why they are way too biased and so wrong way too often. But I know one reason why they never did this...biased fans are what's called "a necessary evil" in regards to the business side of professional sports. So many would be personally offended and stop watching, because simpletons really can't handle being correctly told details why they are way too wrong about even so many simple things. Sadly, comments like yours should be the 'norm', but aren't. It's not about being 100% right either. That's impossible. The fact is, most are not even in the ballpark! It's also about the real purpose of social media...to read and learn from others well written points. Obviously, the "fans" are again proving to be a necessary evil in maxing out ratings (volume of participants advertisers pay more money for). The crazy comments about Belichick, Brady and the Patriots dominance are more proof. At or near the top of this long list of crazy comments from "fans" is "I don't care who wins the Superbowl, as long as it's not the Patriots"...and even this gets many thumbs up. Ok....sure thing superfans. Obviously, they don't like or respect what it takes to be the best or even close to the best at anything of real value in life. So pathetically sad, especially because so many commenters like this have handicapped or will handicap their own kids in so many ways. It's almost impossible to make all the right assessments as a parent. But once again, way too many are not even in the ballpark. Off topic? That's what many will reach for straws in saying. Yes...I'll "go there" on a comment section on a sport. Somebody has to teach them. Other's can't and won't because they don't know about the complicated business of reporting.Tip of the iceberg too.
I still look forward to the Superbowl. You're comment about football coaches having more influence during games versus other sports was rare. I also have pointed that out in the past. It's so true that if you don't learn to think for yourself, someone else (actually...many other people) will gladly do it for you. (And get paid for doing it in the business world).
Nick is right , they didn’t run the ball , brees choked a wide open 3rd conversation the possession before , choked in OT
Tony Montana the point is the game should of been over I agree brees and the offense has been bad past few games but that’s not what we are arguing the game should of been over or at least the rams some how make a come back with 50 seconds of time left and win then nobody’s mad and it falls on the saints
If you don’t think that missed call cost the Saints their trip to the Super Bowl, then you might be just as oblivious as the refs themselves. It took one of the most obvious missed calls in NFL history for the Rams to even get the ball back. Even the DB knew it was P.I. Game would have been over.
It's sean payton's bad playcalling that put the game in the refs hands. Why are you throwing it 3 times with less than 2 minutes left on the game. Bad coaching plus bad reffing equals a L you have to take home
nat X Sean Peyton called a 3rd down play that didn’t work because his receiver got decked before the ball got there. That’s not bad coaching, that’s bad luck with terrible officiating. Yes, he should have ran it on 1st down, but they ran it on 2nd down, so it wasn’t 3 passes. The question is “Did the refs cost the Saints a trip to the Super Bowl,” and the answer is yes. Of course the Saints could have played better, and so could the Rams. That has nothing to do with the refs missing the most obvious call that would have ended the game and sent the Saints to Atlanta.
Lmfao you really think momentum of that Obvious 3 penalty non call changed the whole mf game... Lmfao I'm a Bucs Fan btw
Wrong team is in the Superbowl! Dam shame!
Darryl Young yeah it should be the Eagles y'all frauds
Same 10 years ago. Saints even have a phony ring from it too.
I want the Patriots to whip the rams. They don't deserve to be there. They didn't earn it, the cheating refs gave it to them
So funny how fans are blaming the horrible call. Yes it was a bad No call. So was the call against the steelers. Drew threw the pic. Game over
Luke Faulkner it's not really up for discussion. If saints get the penalty they run the clock out and get a go ahead score and win
Exactly if they made the call thete would if never been an ot
Philip Tucker - Or the Rams might have let the Saints score a TD and get the ball back?
Go watch the replay of the pick in OT, the defender hit Drew in the head on that play. It should have been a personal foul but no call. National Rigged League.
@Elf 1203 that wouldn't attract fans in the L.A. market would it?
Can anyone please mention how the Rams went into hostile territory. Never seen a coach blowing whistle when opponent has the ball. But we gonna just ignore that huh?
Clifton Davis first off that was not a blatant face mask call it was incidental contact that’s not a penalty in the nfl. Second the missed pi call was the worst missed call in nfl history the two are not even comparable
Clifton Davis.... YES, I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THAT!!!!! He had it in his mouth hid behind his play sheet. And I heard a whistle being blown while the Rams had the ball. You are absolutely correct. Payton's teams are notoriously dirty. WOW, actually had it in his mouth, CBS camera caught him.
@@joshsalzer3794 you should study up, incidental is still a first down.
@@SpiritMover314 what???? Are you for real?
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I like Cris Carter but I have to disagree with Chris on the penalty call. Players drop easy catches, QB's miss easy passes. Ref's are humans and they miss calls or make calls that should not. It's unfortunate but come on. let us give the Rams some credit for a great game in New Orleans.
C.C the saints still had chances to win the game
LeeTravius Mckay
Yeah but that was an obvious call
Having a chance to win and actually winning are two different things. The game would have been over period. This wasn't some judgment call this was obvious. Soon they will have to go back to reviewing penalties because it's getting so bad. I'm not a fan of either team and I was rooting for the Rams. Both teams go bad officiating. Maybe review in the final two minutes with help but it's horrible calls all game
LeeTravius Mckay people want to over look the face mask.
donnell brown if you call the facemask and call the p.i the saints still win thats not an argument
DaRealCjizzle how do you know they would had won? Because if they called the facemask the whole outcome of the game is changed so how can you say they still win?
I agree with Nick. That 3 yd incompletion on 1st down by Saints was ridiculous
This lost really hurts us here in New Orleans,there's a real somber feeling around here now.
Aqib Talib called it. If the Saints had run three times only about 40 seconds would have been left and the Rams wouldn't have any timeouts but they put the ball in the air and it cost them.
The ref costed then, not throwing the ball.
actually about 25 seconds after the fg and subequent kickoff.
I’m not watching NFL anymore. I just registered for Bassmasters for 1 yr.
I’m DONE!!
"Nothing in football is guaranteed " -John madden
Except the Patriots in the superbowl- deoice madden
Austin Ryan People lost on wy certain teams go it's about teams with more fans And that will fill A stadium MONEY TALK🤑
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Fake game. Winners pick on ratings.
The ratings argument doesn't even make sense and infact makes your argument weaker. The superbowl that would have got more national ratings would have been undoubtedly a Brady vs Brees matchup. This is not even mentioning the absurd play calling the saints were running that gave this controversy a chance to even happen. The league didn't tell the saints to keep throwing the ball when they had the game in hand. The only way games are "fixed" is by the point spreads and Vegas, these people just use our vices to take our money...thats the only way they are fixed. And if you don't believe me then you need to take a long look at the history of the NFL.
Being a ref is not an easy job but wow this one was brutal! Conspiracy theory: league wants Rams vs Pats (who got some gift calls too).
So nobody wanna talk about the face mask on Goff that would of gave the Rams 1st and gold before any of this even happened. Then after that they still had a opportunity to stop the rams from Tying the game and they didn’t then they got the ball 1st in OT and still failed to score then they failed to stop the rams from getting in field goal range so cry me a river you lost because you didn’t Execute 😒
They lost because of blown call
Big facts
Allen Wright I’m a saints fan I agree . I want real honest football . That might not been as no where visible as what was seen bro . That was extremely obvious at a big time
Nailed it Allen!!
@@Matt0719g you can always look to those types of calls being missed several times in EVERY NFL game. However, as important the missed call for pass interference was, that non call for face mask was potentially equally as detrimental.......I suspect some Saints fans want to gloss over that fact (not you per say)
The Saints were out played and out coached so that non call cost them the game. What about the bad call that almost cost the Rams from winning the game before that? How come that isn’t being talked about? Are we supposed to believe the Saints played well in that game?
I understand what Nick is saying. The game wasn't over
Not only was it not over these idiots got the ball in OT
D Ellis good I'm glad you open your eyes
The Falcons vs Patriots is the best example of playing safe. Although they were hitting everything all game, they chose to throw when two runs would have won the SB. Anything can go wrong, even for Brees. The Saints only ran for 50 yards! There's the real problem.
Go Rams... Chris just upset because he called Goff a bust his first season.. now Goff is goin to the Super bowl.. Horns up
upset cause he made a prediction over a decade ago... how stupid can one be lmao
This is why people can say with confidence, that the NFL is fixed!!!
Cris “I’m gonna interrupt you” Carter
Migg if she's old enough to read she's old enough to breed 93
What happened to the saints offense I still haven’t figured it out?
Saints fans weren’t complaining about any of this stuff when it happened in the NFC championship game in 09....
Get out of here with that. Quarterback pamper rules weren't in the league then. Saints paid the price anyway. Stay relevant to the problem at hand.
nope, with todays rules the saint never win that nfc championship in 2009 and minnesota wins their first superbowl. of course Favre wasn't a p$ssy like the qbs of today. Someone breathes on brady and its a flag,
Seth LaCombe late hits and hitting a player high-low we’re still illegal in ‘09. Saints paid their fine and did their time as will the Rams although only a $26,000. League wanted saints to win in ‘09 but not so much in ‘19. I’m just saying saints fans should be thankful they were in the leagues good grace at some point!
CC makes NO sense. We see who would make the better decision maker in that position. Nick is (w)right!
Len F. Both guys are right.
I think CC discredits Nick's opinion a not as this "I played in the NFL, so your opinion is usually wrong"......CC makes valid points but he needs to stop preaching it as gospel without always discounting Nick's opinion
This is why CC has no rings...
I wouldn't go so far as fire CC, He just needs to be much more objective.....Nick makes very valid arguments and has legit points of view...CCs way isn't the only way
CC us a hater. Literally every commentator said the exact same thing all morning on different shows that Nick said.
The bad call didn't end the game for the Saints. It sure did extend the game. The Saints had the ball to start OT and couldn't get it done there either. Even with the bad call, they had a chance to close it out and couldn't. Even after that bad no-call, you have to prevent 2 field goals or score a TD. You didn't do either.
Refs = NFC Champions
Load¡ng Refs = AFC Champions.
@@tiyeeshaphillipsblackqueen2986 absolutely, they need to rework the review policies on penalties....both those games yesterday were a joke and the wrong teams are in the Super Bowl
@@tiyeeshaphillipsblackqueen2986 chiefs were holding gronk 24/7. and mahomes throwwing it on prayer is gonna hurt yall next year. dont be mad. bad calls both ways. great game!! only a couple more years of the brady!!!!!!!!!!!😁😁😁
@@__G___ lmao yall act like their were not 60 min of football. clueless fake football fans. iam out. not real enough for me.
@@pats4dawin106 youre just a twit, we are all laughing at your stupidity
NO ONE got robbed today. I am a sports bettor. ALL major sports that can be bet on........are fixed to varying degrees. MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA, tennis, soccer, etc. Hate to break it to you, but this "blown" call was more obvious than OJ's guilt. This particular play is a GREAT example and a lithmus test for those of you who refuse to believe sports are fixed. The DB committed at least 3 fouls on the wide receiver----on ONE play----that could have been called---two of which were automatic 15 yard penalties and automatic 1st downs at the 1 yard line.........
Now, go watch the Patriots game and see how they were aided on their final 2 drives. Brady throws a drive-killing incomplete pass, and the refs throw a late flag for a phantom "roughing the passer". Automatic 15 yards and 1st down. Pats go on to score go ahead TD. This is very real guys. Right now, you have a government shutdown and a demon in the White House. America needs hope, something uplifting. What better than to have the "Patriots" in the biggest TV spectacle of the year?
I could go on and on, but some of you will never accept the truth of how you are manipulated............this is called "bread and circus". It dates back to ancient Rome. Gladiators matches were used by the emperor to distract from hunger, poverty and corruption. The same tactics are used on you today, as we speak. The NFL = WWE. Theater. Nothing more.........
clearly fixed. The calls in the KC game were disgusting, and theres no way not at least 1 official doesnt see the blantant interference in the saints game. It wasn't missed, it was intentional.
"Not a league office that he's fond of." Euphemism of the day award to CC
Do the right thing, commissioner.
I grew up loving to watch Chris Carter play. My favorite player by far. I was so excited that he got a show, but the saying, “Don’t meet your idols” couldn’t be more true. His logic is always skewed coming from the viewpoint of a wide receiver. And when Nick makes the clearly better argument, Chris never agrees or at least acknowledges the sound logic. I feel bad for Nick, it must be tough trying to argue correct points with Chris day after day. Like talking to a brick wall. This show has taken away any desire to actually meet this guy one day.
The moral of the story is, never leave the outcome of a game to a referee. Brees threw so many passes that could have been intercepted.
But they werent, so did Goff. Saints CB MWilliams last year followed the rules and the Minneapolis Miracle happened and this year the Rams CB messed up but still got away with it and the win. Moral of the story is the rules dont matter at the end of the game.
How are the Saints going to complain when they had THREE 4th down pass interferences called against Pittsburgh that were TERRIBLE calls that won the Saints the game.
I am just happy the Saints got robbed due to lack of a ref call. Remember in 2009 NFC conference championship the refs gave the game to the Saints on a silver platter and robbed the Vikings of one of their best seasons in their history. The Saints roughed Favre throughout the game (Bountygate) - no penalty calls. The Saints had interfered on numerous Favre pass attempts - no penalty calls. The refs called a fair catch on 4th down by the Saints when it was clear the ball hit the turf first. I could go on and on but suffice it say I am happy as a bumble bee to see the Saints lose this conference championship the same way they were given it 10 years ago. Bitter sweet!
exactly. Nobody seems to remember that because at the time everyone hated Favre. Just one of those plays today and guys would be getting ejected.
I agree 100% and it's funny to actually see the reactions of people realizing that the NFL has been rigged for years and years. It's like their eyes were opened to reality.
They weren’t complaining when they were on the benefiting side of a no call or a wrong call. You can’t pick and choose when you want to cry about it or not.
CC is totally worthless
Who is gonna complain if they benefit from a non call?...... ok, my point exactly.
If he turns around, that’s a pick six. It was a terrible throw by Drew Brees and a terrible play by the corner. I actually don’t mind the no call because to me, it was like them saying “we’re not rewarding either of you for making a bad play”
He was out of position and panicked. He would have never thought of a pick
That's exactly the reason why he did what he did, dude was totally burned, out of position. The ref need to do his job and make the call, not judge plays and determine what play deserves a call or not.
it doesnt matter what other calls were missed in that game. that PI no call was blatantly obvious and changed the outcome of the game.
There were missed call on both sides. Saint's just got out coached and out played...ref's miss a call that is on the ref's..Blew Dat..
the game went to OT....seemed like an evenly matched game...even box score...but somehow over coached and out played with a little help from the ref
How's the lawsuit going? Shouldn't the Super Bowl be held off now until both the AFC and NFC Championship games are satisfactorilly remedied?
Bad non call. Didn’t cost them the game. Had a chance and lost. Rams had a chance and took it.
The rams had a chance because of the non call
Had they made the call the saints would have won and you know it
I loved the NFL but ever since Roger Goodell became the Commish, this kind of calls happened way more often and it’s done on purpose for the $$$$$$$$$!
LA Rams vs Patriots round 2 brings more $$$ than saints vs chiefs no doubt!
Chris is wrong
Nick is so right and I'm a diehard saints fan!!!
The Saints lost this game because they could not put the nail in the coffin. They had many chances to end this game but did not. 1 call who cares. You should not have been in that situation to give a human who is not perfect and makes millions of mistakes to decide the game for you.
While your statement is true, it can also not be denied how blatantly obvious the non PI call was huge in playing a part in the overall outcome
@@Titanbrotha00 Yes your right. Should have been called no doubt about it. But Saints could have put this game away without letting a ref decide this game. Everyone knows that refs will favor a team and make stupid or no calls at all.
@@flynn1504 From a strategic standpoint it was unwise for Payton to not force the Rams to burn those two timeouts. I seriously question that motive! That was the ultimate undoing based on strategy. The non call was huge in that it would've given an automatic 1st down with time to run the clock down. Unfortunately, it came late in the game where the outcome wasn't decided yet with Superbowl aspirations at stake.
@@Titanbrotha00 Yeah he should have ran the ball and scored. Give the ball to the rams with 40-50 seconds with no timeout and all this would have been prevented. I would never want a ref to decide a outcome of a game for you.
@@flynn1504 if the call was made the saints would ran the clock to about 3 seconds and hit a easy 20 yard field goal.
You can't tell me that call was responsible for the Saints losing. That call was SO atrocious they lost ALL momentum in the game. They already felt like they had been beaten.
yea it was a bad call! the bad call did not cause the saints to lose the game because the game continued in overtime. the saints had a chance in overtime to stop the rams and they could not.
ovila cote if the ref do his job there would be no overtime that call lost them the game period
DaReal, your sir are exactly right.
@@cjizzledakid3207 yes that is true but the game was not over the saints still had the chance to win the game and they could not do that.
@@ovilacote4778 you don't understand do you....call the correct penalty...saints milk the clock and kick the fg with no time left...the non call dictated the game by the refs...should not have happened....
@@tracys2354 bad calls have been happening since the beginning of football. the good teams find another way to win the game they do not whine about it.
People always want to find one call to say it cost them the game. Every little thing you do and every little mistake you make is costing you the game. Sean Payton need to learn how not to be so greedy. He's always trying to embarrass the other team. What goes around come backs around ✌
No. It was a bad call but they did that throughout the game. Nothing is perfect and no one is perfect. So that's why when we take on a task we have to do the best we can because we never know where the chips may fall. Had they been ahead they wouldn't have to worry about that call. But being that they were behind it was a big deal. And apparently the Saints don't remember all the bad calls that were made when they played Philadelphia Eagles, but you didn't hear them crying.
Disagree wid Chris on this one here's why as a falcon fan all I've heard since the Superbowl is that if we wud have ran 3 times an kicked a field goal after the homes catch we wud have won the Superbowl which I agree wid how can u be on Peyton side for not doing the same thing bad play calling cost them the game at the end
Look...
The non face mask call that the refs didnt call for the Rams forcing them into a field goal to tie it at 20 instead of scoring a touchdown.... let's say they call it and Rams get their Touchdown.
Then let's give the Saints there call and give the Saints their touchdown.
The Rams would hit their 3 pt field goal to tie it and send it to Overtime anyways.
And the Saints did get the ball first and had a chance to win in overtime.
Rams make interception, hit game winning FG... Rams win either way.
Payton mad now but he wasnt mad when they called that phantom pass interference against the Steelers and joe Haden that put Steelers out the playoffs. So get over it.
"We got the best players playing, we got the best referees..." -Chris Carer 5:20 if those are the best refs then the NFL needs to get shut down
nicks right, they threw that deep ball, that was a mistake.
No way in the world that refs missed that call cause they didn’t see the pass interference. They most definitely saw it, they just made a chose to ignore it and not call it. #straightcheatedtheSaints
Cris is totally right!
@FAKE GLOBE I like the sound of his voice
At that point in the game, New Orleans throwing the ball incomplete on first down has to rank up there with Seattle on the one yard line and not handing it off to Marshawn Lynch.
The face mask wasn't as obvious as that pass interference. Of course the refs cost the Saints the game.
There were three - count 'em, three - missed face mask calls against the Saints in that game, two in the first half and one in the second, all caught by the television cameras, which if called by the refs could and probably would have changed the course of the game. That the PI call was missed just starts to balance the books. What goes around comes around. Karma.
Those were incidental facemasks! Good God people, learn the rules of the game... the NFL does not recognize incidental facemasks as penalties anymore. The only league that does is high school leagues.
@@JohnWesleyHardin1853 read my comment dude.
@@jaket459 - If the tackler merely swipes his hand across the facemask, then perhaps it qualifies as "incidental". However, if the tackler grasps the grill and turns the head, whether with "intent" or not, and whether quickly released or not, then you must call the penalty. With all the emphasis on safety in the game today, to not call a head turning facemask penalty, and to dismiss it as "incidental", is ridiculous. The definition of "incidental" cannot include a grasp that turns the head. If you are right and the NFL does not recognize those as penalties, at what point do they? The Eagles Nick Foles had his helmet nearly pulled from his head in a recent game and no penalty was called; was that a correct non-call of an "incidental" facemask?
@@JohnWesleyHardin1853 if it is not the cause of the tackle, then it is going to be incidental. That is why you see all these no calls on face mask penalties.
That ref had time before that next play to throw that flag. He chose not too! Commissioner needs to grow some balls and hold them accountable. Commissioner over there watching the Chiefs game.
Saints blew a 13 point lead!!RAMS NFC CHAMPS!!!
Your "NFC CHAMPS" never led the entire game until after the no-call that kept the Saints from winning. There would not have been time for Rams to get the ball after a Saints FG if the call was made. They were robbed.
No chance they could score with less than a minute left in the game? Have you forgotten what happened last year with Diggs? The game is never over until the time is out, especially when the Saints are involved.
@@chickenquesadilla8139 1st and goal 1 minute 45 seconds on the clock. Saints kneel down, Rams use their only time out. Saints kneel down two more times and run the clock down to 3 seconds before calling a timeout of their own. Lutz, who has missed one field goal all season, kicks a field goal that is shorter than an extra point and ends the game. Even the commentators were saying that was the end of the game if the refs call that penalty.
Lets acknowledge that bad calls or no calls happen often during
games,just ask any coach. It really comes down to timing. You will see
bad calls happen in the first quarter when the score is 0-0. So when a
bad call happens then the coaches will complain to the refs and then
move on. The problem with this Saints-Rams no call was that it happened
in the fourth quarter and with a tight score. This is what made this no
call stand out in comparison to if it had happened in the first quarter.
Again,it's about the timing of the bad call or no call.
Payton always gets to cute!
Bingo!!
Theres a petition for a rematch of the Saints vs Rams
Over 530,000 people have signed it in one day.
In the NFL rule book it says the NFL commissioner has the authority to make a rematch of a game if the game was unfair.
Justin Williams lmao are you kidding me? Why would they have a rematch? So if the saints lose again they gonna have another rematch? Get over it. You guys had so many opportunities to win that game without it even having to come down to that.
Lol how sad 😂
The overtime was the rematch; the Saints' had the ball first, intercepted by a Ram, then their Kicker scored the longest NFL field.
So what we could care lee get over it Go Rams
The "roughing call that never was"... THAT'S THE CALL THAT KEPT THE DRIVE ALIVE. Games are fixed folks. I've always said it since the 2000's, people would laugh it of, some because they didn't believe it, some just didn't want to believe it, but now, it's so obvious. All sports have outcomes rigged via the refs, they are the ones who swing momentum. Why do you think there's a "guest referee" on all the telecasts now??? It's to finesse the viewers minds at home, and "headquarters" make "the final decisions". Ha, headquarters...🙄The Rams left a loyal fan base in St. Louis for population and TV revenue. Nothing more. Now, they're rewarded with a Superbowl trip. Patriots, same way, the League makes more money off the Patriots than almost any franchise. Its disgusting.
I have just recently started believing the NFL is fixed. Ever since Godell took over I think the NFL has been rigged.
Yeah Dale, I hate the outcomes aren't true competition. Wrestling is one thing, but avg. working people and athletes work too hard in football to leave games in the hands of the ref.
Why is there not an option. Especially in the playoffs to challenge whether there was a missed call or flag on the play. We can challenge whether someone was down but we can’t challenge whether there was a blatant pass interference.
Make reviewing penalties, a thing.
if Lewis was allowed to catch the ball it would have been a reviewable play...but he gets shellacked and prevented from even touching the ball but that is not reviewable....does not make any sense
For the first time in 50 years I will not watch the superbowl. Let me start by saying I'm not a fan of either team. Long struggling jets fan but after the tragedy of this weekend I cannot watch. The absolute injustice layed on the saints and their fans is an abomination. I don't know how true this is however if the officials in question was a player and a fan of the rams an investigation is due now. This was truly the most horrifying non call in NFL history. If I were the saints organization I would push this to the limits. The NFL front office should be ashamed. Shame shame! I'm done with the NFL.
aints still got outplayed and out coached. They peaked too early
Thanks sooo much for the support its the FLAG THAT WASNT THROWN
Karma. Saints have bad karma since Bounty Gate against the Vikings. I thought maybe it had evened out after saint's lost to the vikes on that so called miracle play but I guess not. Bad karma is still with them.
The nfl wanted an east & west coast superbowl and so here are the final results. Boycott the nfl & the superbowl!!!
This show is better without CC....he's terrible in this format.
Those Referees should be terminated.
Saints had a chance to take the win on OT so no excuses!
The point everyone is trying make that you are missing is that it shouldn't have come down to OT. The game would've been won in regulation had the PI call have been made.
The saints were robbed. If the refs would have called the pass interference then the Saints would ran the clock to about 3 seconds left own the clock and hit a easy 20 yard field goal
@@dexter9065 Its okay Dexter, do you need a puppy to hold? Have you been offended in some way? Get over it Nancy, put your big boy pants on and quit your bitching.
@@justinwilliams9262 see comment to Dexter
@@ramsrule2982 - Typical..
There were other mistakes during that play, too. Before Brees threw the pass two of his Saints' linemen could have been called for Holding or Hands-in-the-Face. Coleman's PI would have been offset by at least one offensive penalty against the Saints. Result would been the same as what happened - fourth down.... kick the fieldgoal ... the rest is history. And why hasn't anyone noticed that Coleman was in position to simply follow the flight of the ball and pick it off for an interception?
I’m glad this happened to the saints hahahahaha I’m Vikings fan didn’t forget the 09 championship game
It's true that if the PI call was made, the Saints would have almost certainly won the game. It's also true that bad playcalling and bad execution throughout the final 2 minutes and in OT also cost the Saints the game. Both of these realities are very frustrating. And as for the PI, it's not only frustrating in relation to the outcome of the game, but just the fact that it was so utterly blatant, with multiple refs staring right at it, and refusing to call it. It felt like a kick to the stomach from the officials, and I think there's really no other explanation than corruption. They KNEW it was a PI and refused to call it.
Come on come on quit crying with the Saints coach you know the saints were in angels in there the saints were cheating by letting all everybody have whistles to disrupt the game everybody seen the face mask on the Rams quarterback when he tried to run in at the 5-yard line the stop him from getting into the endzone I don't hear you guys crying about that no one says anything about that there is no reason to cry about all of this the Saints got the ball in overtime they were moving the ball downfield haven't had an opportunity to win the game Drew Brees throws an interception the Rams get the ball they score kick a field goal win in all anybody wants to do is just cry about it you guys in the Saints coach needs to get over it they had an opportunity to win and they blew it congratulations Rams well done
Coach Payton stated that he originally called a run play but changed it according how he saw the defense lined up.