This was a form of propaganda to counter Soviet atheism and rational thinking. Now look at it, Russia is using same religious irrationality to combat american hegemony.
We are literally evolving backwards i think . Today's generation is much more interested in making reels rather than doing something fruitful for their life .
The Indian speaker Nalini Nair is my aunt. She pursued her higher education from America. She has always been a source of inspiration. She was modern in thinking despite of invariably being clad in a Saree. She is a retired Professor now. She is happily settled in the US with her children. I was always carried away by her style of conversing in English. It was so articulate. The Pakistani lady is also settled in the US. She was holding a very high position in the UN.
Well people today just have hatred, hatred but nothing else. It's rare to see people who are accepting of differences. I believe we can all exist with differences, it is very beautiful that way.
@@estherselvarani88 because back that time. It was purely secular . But today its purely political. We must fight as rugged when fighting with thugs. Else we will lose ground. Gandhi era long gone. We have to struggle for survival for our existence
One thing that stands out to me about these conversations is that, no one is yelling, there is no anger towards the debating party, and they all show a respect towards the others opinion. It's cool to see that.
@@BK-ob3lo i think the boy tried to humiliate her and she was feeling a bit insulted. It's not the girl's fault. She was so kind the whole conversation. I think the boy's attitude was a little bit insultingly.
@@mhariszeeshan i don't think so...he was just putting his opinion and questioning her beliefs. He was just asking WHY you believe what you believe.... That's the whole point of a debate
Seeing a Pakistani and Indian peacefully talking with each other was such a stunning thing to see, even less than 20 years after partition. It’s so beautiful.
Just imagine the level of education these women from India and Pakistan got. Too sound in English and had very valid points, the way they confidently put their opinions. They seem nearly of my grandparents age. They were lucky to have got such level education possibly because their parents raised them well. They also seem to have come from elite family.
@@sandesh9240 given their age and limited experience in that era, I believe that their mind was quite broad to look at different perspectives. They might have learned more with age, unlike other people of their generation who were too narrow minded, let alone having an opinion to speak. Obviously nobody is sure even today what god is.
Also the reason is our generation vr well groomed & educated Bk then When we were ruled by Well mannered educated and systematic English & westerns.. Thn our nation vr high jacked by goons thugs corrupt uncivilized ruler..
Questions to each self which includes me as well - i wana know about the truth or i wana experience the truth ( like food & sleep)....eg when we are really very hungry , r u interested in discussing about food only or wana have experience or self taste of food & same goes for sleep as well.....their is mystic master before 1200 years shared that "as soon as thought arises , we were all generally travel towards the 9 doors , except 1" ..... that's the paradox & puzzle , indication & hint , on the path for all those really ready & ripe seeker , who is ready to take a plunge , without much verbal circus & mind spegetti but to work on self deeper exploration of highest human possibilities & potential for mystic alchemy transmutation.
I really liked how the Indian girl and British guy were so clear about their perspective, weren't going in circles and were asking valid questions. I really liked the answers given by the Hindu girl about her religion and her clarity on it.. also how respectful she has been throughout the discussion.. 👏👏
Why does it feel like 1960's was way ahead of even our time? they have raised such good points without offending anyone. they all have such sharp and open minds, our society lacks the kind of education these people had.
It's the privilege of having wealth and advanced technology that we forget nowadays that we are in fact human like all others in the world, unity of people should exist irrespective of their community or country. More and more advanced the humans become the easier it is to forget the purpose of humanity and on the other hand if the purpose of humanity can be respected even when we are at an advanced stage consider that we win
Why do I see that people of that era have these beautiful innocence. Everyone. So soft spoken. I think our current social media dependent society has corrupted our mind
@@rocky-jy5nx sounds like you need to read India's history and delve into it's culture. sounds a bit stupid to say others have the wrong idea of india when you clearly don't too:)))
@@shiva_iitkgp put 4 people from different country to talk about different religion and about God . India and Pakistan will have a mini war there itself. Yes not all will fight. But mostly we can't get through a discussion about God without offending each other
The lady representing India , makes me so proud today...60 years ago she was there... competing with the world...and showing the way for future generations... ✋✋👍👍
They had been selected out of thousands of students from their respective countries, so it's natural that they are best in the business. Nalini was calm and composed, answering with smile. Nalini nailed it😎
I sincerely appreciate the moderator. She just sets the context and patiently listens to the argument without interrupting. Unlike moderators today, who think of themselves as an expert on every topic.
I think Nalini was simply superb. What I might want to rephrase is, Hinduism allows me to question itself and tells me to go on the path of discovery of truth. And that is why she emphasizes on how different it is from religions.
*Remember that!* Don't let Hinduism fall in wrong hands! *Fascist Hindutva will convert this wonderful open idea of Hinduism into a radical Talibani Islam!*
OMG I am 24 years old who went to NYC high school and I must admit I don't even have the miniscule level of articulation skill like these kids do. Their maturity is astounding, I just wonder how did we drop intellectually from that to now within 50 years.
I was wondering the same. I guess somewhere along the line, the education system, in aspirations, to be inclusive of all sections of the society, has brought it a bar or two lower. These students were elites, a few who were fortunate to get education amidst the pertaining oppression and steretypes. Nowadays it’s misleading to think you can gain intellectual expertise via only the education system. Extra work needs to be put in.
Blv me only one or maybe two of em are "intellectual" but the rest of em just did a simple skit and scan research -in simple terms they prepared cause they were told to. I too have done these debates and contradictory discussions. As long as you are prepared everything's normal
I grew up within TV till 10. I see the diff In my children. We read. We talked. We were very curious. I think my kids are constantly absorbing social media. Very little free time to think or even read and yes they are less talkative.
Everyone were speaking about religion where there's Nalini speaking about existence. She never uttered a name of Hindu god which makes clear that the religion is not about god but it is about finding path to truth of life.
Jesus sais" I Am The Way, The Truth, and The Life". He came to reveal himself as a Friend and gave himself to die for our sins. He is the answer to our Sins. He is the way to moksha
@@preethi-1723 See. You prove me right. It's what "Jesus" said is what you said. And I hope you know the number of "GODS" in Hinduism. And if you really know what MOKSHA is then you must be knowing how to attain it. Well, the point is "It is said by God(generalizing the concept of GOD) not Jesus or Allah or any other GODS."
62 years earlier yet, thousands of years ahead! A perfect example of how you can argue, not by raising the voice but by raising the level of points that you make!
Yes sir but their generation failed to educate their children and for so the by product we are riping today. I maybe be generalizing but, by George, talking about religion when there are so many other problems in that era that needed to be solved were overlooked. That's why they are stuck in their paradoxical consciousness of what to choose or not.
24:15 "has religion made God, or God made religion" The most basic question of this whole debate.. kudos to Nalini for pointing it out. She must be at the age of my Grandmother now, I hope she made a good life.
@@JM-jj3eg Allah says in Chapter 5, Verse 3: "Today the disbelievers have given up all hope of ˹undermining˺ your faith. So do not fear them; fear Me! Today I have perfected your faith for you, completed My Favour upon you, and Chosen Islam as your way.". That Religion is Islam which is the way of all the prophets and their nation that obeyed them, who Believe in Allah Alone and that He has No Partners nor does it Befit Him...
@@DipayanPyne94 Allah Created Man, rather it was He who ordained for us to be in the wombs of our mother. Where was your intellect then, when he nurtured you in the darkness of the womb. Where was your intellect then..? Man isn't self-sufficient and Won't Ever Be... Man was Created By Allah and Will Return To Him.. It is to Him the Final Destination So Fear Him and Worship Him Alone for He will ask you about your life and how you lived it. Your time and what you did. Your Money and How you spent... What will you say on that day? For He already knows...
62 years ago, these teenagers had insightfulness like that, how calm and eloquently they spoke. Am awestruck listening to each word and thought expressed!! I wish they are all Alive today and would love to see them talk again.
These people are from elite class and they don't represent their generation. People from that generation were much worse in every aspect than today's generation. Sexism, Racism, Apartheid.......... and so much more.
Don't forget that this debate is happening 10 years after the independence and partition. People in 60s are clearly more tolerant. After 70 years of independence it's hard to imagine that Indian and Pakistani can sit on a table having debate over religion and not getting offended.
I suspect they recognized each other more as having been the same people under the British Empire. Nowadays Indians and Pakistanis never knew each other like that, except for some elderly people, and have only been raised to see each other as enemies.
@Prasanth J many more Papisthan zantabad have already grown up by 2022 within India!! They all need a book with author not the correctness of the contents while one of them didn't need any rewards nor name and history of the author but just live the current life happily!! Those Author oriented don't even want to know their own origin!? Pakistan wasn't a piece of land belonged to India and people living there weren't Indians?? Do they ever treat India as their motherland!? No, they neither love it nor have any good opinions about it.... that's the reality of every product of the cycle of creativity!!! Competition and destruction of everything that is not 'I', 'My', 'Mine' ...🤣
Why do you want Pakistan to be your friend, like partition happened for a reason, if they were all lovey dovey with each other no politicians can even dare to part them.
And that's for the valid reason if u know what is happening from Pakistan side ? Over the years many things changed politics divided us but it's mentality what will keep us divided
The man in the debate is extremely intelligent. The questions he raises are actually thought provoking. His observations are relevant even today. His points and discussions brought out some very important points from others. 👏🏼👏🏼
@@raconteurhermit1533 *She has read Upanishds and Ved.* Western education actually brought critical thinking back to India. Otherwise the caste system had destroyed critical thinking in Hinduism! We are slowly going back to middle-ages with stupid, radical Islamist idea of Hindutva!
@@bobinpune Western academia employ these sepoys with colonized minds to doctor atrocity literature Pseudo intellectual in social sciences History ,anthropology etc, don't even know Sanskrit, rely on mistranslated works produce mediocre & unscholarly work ,they should be exposed & penalized
As years went by, I feel the standard of education has come to this level that children do not have a vision or mission other than passing their exams. see the way these high school students are putting forward ideas ..... ......❤
"just because your mind is human and you think in terms of cause and effect, it doesn't mean that the whole creation came about by cause effect, your own mind has as certain limits but it doesn't mean that the whole world has." - The UK boy
Questions to each self which includes me as well - i wana know about the truth or i wana experience the truth ( like food & sleep)....eg when we are really very hungry , r u interested in discussing about food only or wana have experience or self taste of food & same goes for sleep as well.....their is mystic master before 1200 years shared that "as soon as thought arises , we were all generally travel towards the 9 doors , except 1" ..... that's the paradox & puzzle , indication & hint , on the path for all those really ready & ripe seeker , who is ready to take a plunge , without much verbal circus & mind spegetti but to work on self deeper exploration of highest human possibilities & potential for mystic alchemy transmutation.
Have met native Australians you are bunch of good people always had good logical conversation and look bit similar to Indians just a bit bigger in size. Infact my facial feature quite similar they would mistake me as one of them. Lol
@@cybershake9200 I was merely referring to the fact that Native (Indigenous) Australians are the original inhabitants of Australia, and hence the most Australian of Australians. 🙂
@@aroosafarooq6838 That's the Hindu philosophy.... Hindus believe that the ultimate manifestation of the divinity is in the form of 3 forces to sustain the universe: Brahma(The force of creation), Vishnu (The force of preservation) and Shiva(The force of destruction) .... The Universe is created, preserved and destroyed in an eternal continuous cycle over a huge span of time and space( I don't remember the exact Vedic calculations)...
Nalini's smile and confidence , Rafi's eyes and to the pointness , Johnny's clear replies , Alice's questions and the host who did a great job made me watch this video 🔥they aren't teenagers , this is what you call a grown up behaviour 👏
@@kicksiddik6795 that too and the people like them these days are ignored and frowned upon for voicing their opinions. sent hate towards and never understood. insteading of finding people like them, be them. its really hard to find a good debate when people aren't even allowed to voice their opinions properly. in news channels nowadays if you see debates it always goes like- "one person saying something" "another person interrupting" "everyone else blabbering about how everyone's opinions suck" - they never try to prove or point out.
@@JupiterGrowth A keralite here. Kerala is definitely not a communist 'country'. Communist govt is ruling here now, just like congress govt has ruled before. Kerala is very much a part of India and will remain so.
@Varoon I too searched about them and found the same info, but i'm still confused whether they are one and the same, is this John Goulden the same as one in video??
As a Brazilian, I must say that Indians are extremely intelligent. I've liked the country since I was a child. I listen to Bollywood and Tollywood music once in a while. I'm glad that I had the privilege to speak to Indians in person, though it was only briefly. If I had half the intellect of Nalini or Gopi (from another video), I would be happy. Much respect. I found it interesting that this video has a Brazilian girl. All in all, an interesting debate. I wonder how it would be if there was a person who practiced an Afro-Brazilian religion. EDIT: Eu sou sim brasileiro, nascido e criado em SP! Só aprecio culturas no geral, incluindo de outros países.
@@t.castro4493 Do you really watch bollywood? unironically? I mean, on a boring sunday on a friend's house just for the clumsiness. Maybe it is a very peculiar niche idk...
It’s impressive that teens in 1959 were more articulate, intellectual and most importantly religious (even if questioning) than teens today. Our education systems have failed over the generations.
Our education system has failed. But the importance that you are emphasising on religion rather their intellectual is what has to change in today's world.
@@robocop5543 History has many examples of religious extremism. It is estimated that 195 million people have died due to religiously motivated wars and genocides. And many more are suffering today. However, it's not that all religions are harmful; it's the people that are idiots.
If you are able to understand them as intellectual and articulate , your education hasn't failed you . If a person becomes ignorant then only you can say that Education has been a waste
Modern day education systems promoted lust, greed, competition, selfishness and lot of porn and sexual content. We see it as population increased, so did the fall of consciousness per individual. More Quantity = Less Quality.
Half of the Britishers who ruled India never actually believed in Christianity in real terms , if they were Christian they would not have brutally harassed and persecuted our Indians ; in today's Britain there are only approximately 28 % people who are Christian .
@@jmac512 I have a question for indians, what makes you guys hate pakistanis and muslims so much over, lets say the british occupation that starved millions of indians. Not trying to offend anyone, just curious.
@@yalekhya2996 honestly those talibans shouldn’t even be considered as Muslims . Islam never forces someone to follow their religion. Islam literally means peace. As for the government I can’t say anything, they’re screwed and bulshitters. Whoever politician questioned them, and were against them, the talibans murdered them. It’s all the Army propaganda. Don’t know when we’ll get a great leader like Benazir Bhutto.
As a Hindu, I always question my religion like why is this...why is that.....and every time I end up loving it more and more...... I believe every single religion is just a way of living.... 👍 (Too much information received..... That's why I commented 😅)
@Vedant Thapliyal Brahman is everything you can and cannot experience you are part of it at the same time every atom energy consciousness matter whatever can be named or not named is part of it. In Bharat we didn't had a concept of god until islam and Christianity entered our motherland Nor did we had a concept of religion just spirituality. The god part is only for the one who wants to experience something more by sheer believe or faith it is called bhakti yoga. Which is less than of 1/4 of all the ways which has its own merits and demerits.
@Vedant Thapliyal Yes brother, But Veda does not say anything as monotheistic it has praises for agni,devi,Indra,shiv,vishnu,etc but not the way abrahamic religion does but it praises their qualities isn't it. Namaskaaram 🙏 ++Edit++ You said "hinduism" is monotheistic in your first comment now you are saying that arya samaj is monotheistic clash between your clarity.
A sensible Hindu no matter the world's age behaves, talks, feels, and remains the same. It's a quest for truth with certain morals and values with no fixation and no adamancy. We question everything, ourselves mostly. Happy to see a wise hindu here.
@Niku Singh That is why she stated 'hinduism is a philosophy, not a religion'. And even after being slaves for 1000 year that philosophy still exist. furthermore If all the people who identify as hindus get extinct in future it will still be alive in the teaching of buddhism, sikkhism, shinto etc......
@Niku Singh what you referring to is the result of politics. Organize religions always had been used as a tool for the political agenda. as far as I know Islam had always been spread thru the sword. As an idea, it never was well equipped. Hinduism as an idea has no worries in that aspect. What you should actually be fearful of is not the islamic people, but the jihadi mindset aka extremism. And extremism is always bad for any community in any way. To counter it you don't need guns but education. Christianity is the best example of this. It was the most radicalized religion in the past but as society had gotten educated, it has mellowed out. I believe the same thing will happen once people can differentiate between politics and faith. Have a good day!!
@Arthur King your reply shows how much you are phobic to hindu's culture. If you would hv watched the video with your senses you would hv understood it that it is not about disrespecting other and proving superiority. You might think Disrespecting hindu deities like krishna and ram make you look cool but you seem uneducated and senseless person while making such comments. Hinduism is more of spirituality and self seeking than believing. If something seems correct and moral to us why is it important to know who wrote it also by your vulger comment it is shown how racist you are does your religion teaches you this I don't think so. It's just a mindset of a sick person. The thing you talk about Lord krishna you should know whatever been famous about his pranks and mischief is only part of his childhood. Since his teen when he got realised he was a great diplomat and king. So educate yourself before you talk bullshit.
@@kanishkanegi5594 Way of life is like faith based religions. Like this is only way that you should lead your life. Hinduism is philosophy based religion. You have to choose what like you want to live
The guy from UK is just so calm and well collected respectful as well and made clear solid points which made even myself think even after so many year later it's so hard to see that even in adults nowadays as a teen they're my idols
@@amrita3000 @Samundra Thapa Magar This guy has commented 'just because you're Indian you support Nalini' on multiple other comments supporting her, seems he just can't acknowledge that people don't have to be of a specific country to support that person.
I remarked that she had the freedom to choose whether or not to wear hijab in that era. In today's age of fanaticism, there is hardly any freedom of choice in this matter- it is more of a compulsion. I didn't contradict myself 🤷🏻♀️ . Congratulations, you've descending into the lands of whataboutery but still I'll honour that with a response for the sake of civility. Agreeably many Indian offsprings align themselves to their parents' point of view when it comes to the matter of matrimony, it is not always forced, it all arises from a place of respect and admiration not compulsion. Forced marriages are a matter of concern but not that common. Even if they were, I can still talk about fallacious matters without being compelled to entertain a multitude of whatabouteries justifying anything and everything wrong in this world. 🤷🏻♀️ Besides being an Indian doesn't automatically translate to having parents who'll force a matrimonial bond upon oneself. Hopefully, you don't live in a world tainted with monochromatic vision. If you do, get well 🔜.
@@DivyaAgarwalDb105 shut the hell up, are you from pakistan? How do u fuckin know? I am from pakistan and girls dress the way they want, we don't dress like west because it's in our culture and religion also, it is clear u are from India I can see by ur name, don't talk if u don't know anything
Nalini Nair (Indian student) portrayed philosophy of religion very clearly. No limited set of rigid rules can enlighten a human mind. Organized religion was a need of past, in modern times each one is expected to know what morality and responsibility is, one shouldn't need a book to tell them, it should come naturally, as a philosophy of life.
@@anthonyaguirre1498 Book!!! Cann't he/she/it auto put all this things in our mind if he is the almighty.....how can you ignore infinite possibities for just one which you aren't confirm about? That's why Hinduism tried to seek not believe and learn more and more to get closer to god if he/she/it exists and to universe and it's existence if god doesn't exist.
@@hsuyaarchives2526 if he put things on our mind then that would be tyrannical and not love. Love is freely choosing. For you it may be force but that is wrong. And yeah seek and you'll find the truth. I seeked and I became born again, I have found truth.
@@anthonyaguirre1498 but what's so special in a book . Don't treat yourself soo special that only for humans god created books and what about other creatures. Actually human is over estimating itself but indeed is not a grain of sand in this cosmos. Books specially for humans is a gimmick!!! Is sun or gravitation or electromagnetism or food or life any natural law specific for human then why so a book!!!!!A fear mongering about a thing you don't know fully is absurdity and nothing.....
@@anthonyaguirre1498 but as you think you are born again your seeking stopped... Found the ultimate truth is itself a contradiction to continuous seeking...... If you found the truth then I suppose you are first human to know what's weight of universe and how long it exist, what is time and space, answers to quantum mechanics and all the truths of universe....... But you or any of your book knows none but continuous human seeking(research) is disclosing it .Isn't it the proof that we don't and cann't know truth to everything by believing on a book and not seeking our whole life.......
@Liberandus are illegal son of aurangzeb .🤣😂we don't share border it doesn't mean we are not neighbours 🤣.we have SAARC Organizations for South Asian countries. We all south countries are neighbours ❤️.
@@Pikachuwhereareyou I was wondering the same...btw this discussion is short I hv better answer to religion i seek answers for questions I think everyone is right Alice is right in her own but not acceptable Pakistani girl is being truthful nd said what she felt Johy was acceptable nd logical Nalini is specific but bit not truthful practically The sequence of maturity was Alice - Pakistani girl - the British guy - Nalini is one step ahead
“HAS RELIGION MADE GOD OR HAS GOD MADE RELIGION” this question from Nalini in something that MUST echo through everyone’s mind in today’s world. If only we all could develop such understanding, we could avoid so many wars and live in a peaceful and harmonious society.
But some people just Blindly believe that their Book is Aasmaani i.e. "Descended Directly from Sky" and interestingly they just Believe it like anything. U can't change their view
@@RajKumarSingh-ff5yh Manusmriti is a terrorist, racist and a discriminatory book which should be banned . It is the cause of india's problems Not to mention the other "enlightening"(lmaoooo) scriptures
This is an extremely delicate topic, but these 4 debaters made it all the more interesting. I watched it whole with a smile. I loved the frankness and yet a sense of devotion of Rafia. Alice was a bit parochial, and it may be ascertained to her society and the upbringing (not saying in a demeaning sense). John and Nalini are my favourites. There open-mindedness, ability to question one's religion and exercising this liberty in a constructive way had me in there awe. And Nalini pointed it out right: Hinduism was never a religion. People around India were free to practice what they believe in. Shankracharya brought it all under one umbrella as one philosophy; a philosophy of life. Teenagers with such maturity and insight talking about their religion made for a wonderful watch.
I agree with you completely.Alice didn’t have a sound argument in search for the truth, which was understandable but, her demeaning attitude for other religions didn’t sit well. Malini and Johnny well articulated their questions and answers while Rafia was caught in the middle of going against devotion.
Hahahahahahahhaha That BS again "Hinduism is not a religion but a way of life" Hinduism My foot Hinduism is a RELIGION Ancient hindus used to worship idols and other BS They were religious
@@fearyflamingo2660 Your laughter and your language says so much about your thoughts, and what has been fed to you in the name of religion. Hindus have worshiped idols even before "Hinduism" was formed by Shankracharya. Every region followed its own customs and traditions, which can still be seen today. If you do not do idol worship, how does it become wrong for others? And why should it? Should they need someone else's approval? What for? In your religion, it will all be counted as blasphemous. Such is the sense of superiority fed to you; such hardline attitude. I can see how your religion has been taught to you, and how tolerant you can be to others who do not identify like yourself. There are such entities in every religion. I admit that. But you said Hinduism is a religion. I must knowledge you that we do not follow one God; we do not follow one book; nothing is a commandment for us that it must be followed; we pray or don't, it is up to us; go to temple or not, it is up to us; explore our options (again, nothing is a binding commandment for us); Karma and Dharma have originated from Hinduism; non-traditional sexual orientations are not criminal as per Hinduism; there is no set of laws "governing" us, at all. I will give you another major point as to why Hinduism is not a religion. Even the name "Hinduism" isn't a binding tag for "Hindus", and is not an indigenous noun, either. Like all things and entities that there are which needs to be tagged to be identified, we have the tag "Hindu." "The other BS" that we pray: well, cows feeds us, nourishes us-- just like our mothers do, and just as we see our mothers as a God, so have we revered cows, too. Even this earth we say as "Mother Earth", or "Goddess Earth". It is an expression of our reverence. Most Hindu kids revered their parents as God, and sometimes even above the Gods that they pray(this is too feeble to be seen today); it is Hindu tradition to refer our teachers and gurus as Gods; the tag is an embodiment of this feeling. And, just to point it out, do you see the uniformity in the practices of other religions all over the world. It is because that is the way it "should be," and that they have been spread in a controlled fashion. But Hindus pray different Gods in different locations, within India. And mind you: I have a Gita, Bible, Quran, copies of other religion's holy books in our prayer room-- laid on the same shelf next to each other. If you do that, it will be blasphemous, and imagine the public's reaction. Hinduism is flexible enough to evolve with time. Not many others can say the same, sadly. And remember, hatred is never born; it is always fed. Every religion has been diluted, corrupted, by the means some fair or unfair means, and Hinduism hasn't been spared either. It is not in the same crude form like it was in the beginning. None of the religions are! It has long been a tool for conflicts, politics, and what not. But amidst the uncountable things that are dividing us, we must look for commonalities to identify with each other. There are far bigger problems than religion. I would not have written this, but I felt I need to answer. Listen to what Rafia has said so beautifully, and I respect her so much. You must too, learn to respect something which you do not agree with. And I will end with this: Hinduism allows us to explore and question; it is a sin in most.
*Remember that!* Don't let Hinduism fall in wrong hands! *Fascist Hindutva will convert this wonderful open idea of Hinduism into a radical Talibani Islam!*
@@rickbarrington Yes, but if we as 3rd or 4th generation after the independence are well aware of what the impact was, they definitely are. The impact of 1947 went on for decades with communal riots, partition, Bangladesh and Pak wars so even if they weren't involved in 1947, there was a lot happening in the following few decades (given the hatred between India and Pak and LOC clashes, even now it's a big deal to have a civil debate) Also, none of them are from the US. It's a student exchange in US, they were selected after winning debates in their respective countries. They clearly have accents lol. You can watch other videos on the channel for more clarity.
Partition was worst and war between different people with different ideologies of country leading millions of death and migration. It's worst Still so many teenage live under poverty We would hab better generation if that partition never held
Rafia and Nalini truly siesed the debate I truly appreciate how Rafia spoke boldly and stood for what she perceived and So did Nalini se was so composed and spoke correctly of her culture and they both said that they truly questioned so many practices all in all both of them did great
Believe me no body back home atleast 90% of their.country men at that time would not have understood her points, she might have belonged to elite class of Punjab province
@Muhammad Al fateen I accept all pakistani r not bad but the good should stand against what's bad happening they can't even condemn an terr@rist attack.
Such a beautiful and harmonious debate on a topic which is impossible to even think of debatting now, Arnab would have died on spot by calmness of these people.
All people here are like "They were so educated, wayyy more than us." Nope. They are the best of the best. You'll find atleast 2-3 such students in almost every school today. It wasn't this common back then. We have many many such students nowadays. But I agree, that the news debates nowadays, meh.
Finally someone with common sense. there is no point in Conducting useless debates becase we get nothing from it. it is just a source of entertainment , they were just wasting their time because we all know that nothing has changed and nothing is gong to change.
Loving how well mannered these People are, we have lost how to respectfully question others. I Don't pray to god, but the questions about life and existence are something I think about everyday. I take the challenges and teachings and I pull in the pain and hurt and trying spread happiness. Regardless of what religious beliefs one has, helping others, seeking enlightenment, and developing oneself while respecting the Nature is what I have come to believe in is the path of life.
I liked the way they were giggling in between after making contradictory statements against one another because they knew how to react while talking on such sensitive topic. So cool!
Although I agree with Nalini more. I feel like all of them have a very broad minded perspective. They had some very interesting views for someone of their age. They all spoke so eloquently while actually listening what the latter said. This interview was so insightful.
12:08 the very reason Islamic terrorism exists, because they think it's 'good' according to their book and they go to heaven, Nalini clearly has a point that this not how it should be.
@@user.idk7389 funny you call anyone a islamaphobe when islamic terrorism really exists and they'd decapitate you for any reason that they think is rightful. I'm not against islam i'm against islamic terrorism, one has to address it even if he is a muslim.
@@mohitm2591 other religions did the same, forcefully made others convert but no one sees that as terr0rism. The christain colonies and their forceful conversions, hindus just never held as much power to conquer others in history. Majority of conquerers were christains and Muslims but becuz people like to worship the whites they don't point fingers at them
OMG, this actually makes me cry cause how messed up we are today. Our society really did move backwards, today we have zero tolerance, cannot question anything, or have rational discussion. Today if you question, you are termed anit-national, anti-religion or anti-something.
OMG. I am so surprised by the responses of Indian and Pakistani girls. They questioned everything so well! It is crazily amazing that several years back, they can differentiate between life and God & philosophy and religion! I am sure I wasn't that well learnt at all during when I was of their age!
The Nair girl's confidence is really good. She really bought out the common sense question on why would God be bothered with one in 8 billion's physics midterm test? 😂
@@praveenkumaries008 No, I am Pakistani and also live in Pakistan. In my opinion, you cannot decide whether a person in more knowledgeable than the other by seeing/hearing just one debate.
@@sapien9043 .. I am not deciding mohtarma... It's my opinion based on my observation. And I don't think it is an offence. In ur ID u r using Japanese that's why I asked.
I mean they are the most elite of elite. Most educated kids in their entire country. Nowadays you will find more kids.Earlier it was like 1 in 20 now it’s 1 in 5. Educated kids are more common. Talk to an extremely start child.
@Niku Singh the slave who fucked his master and got its independence and it's developing very fast in current world ....and is not racist like his master
Hey wait don't be mistaken. Rafia was as much of a free thinker. For her to question Islam back then is just wow. I wouldn't imagine a Muslim doing it now without being blamed for blasphemy lol. Only the Brazil girl has clearly never contemplated on her religion and the way everyone is raised.
@@hnah8680 Brazil girl was thoroughly brainwashed. For her just put “Jesus” on the title of a book, she will go crazy for it. UK as usual have breadth, depth and flexibility in their thought process. I say this even if they were colonists of India. No wonder Pakistan of 1970s and 1980s was much advanced than Pakistan of 1990s and now. It is downhill for Pakistan, and there is no petro oil for them to cover up.
Randomly suggested by youtube and its a hidden gem which should be circulated to see how eloquently can points be put forward and how debates can happen in such a dignified way. Beautiful representation of their own religions and very practical way of questioning it with acceptance. Just wow !!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I personally think Johnny ( American) and Nalini ( Indian) had sound arguments, both raised important questions throughout the argument and had well articulated answered.
@@dharandini2742 I wouldn't say the world is so PC but rather people just lost the ability to communicate more diplomatically. The internet definitely fostered that
What happened to Nalini Nair, the Indian girl from 1959 debate? (Updated) ruclips.net/video/kypXOahKKnI/видео.html
Oh thank you!
This was a form of propaganda to counter Soviet atheism and rational thinking. Now look at it, Russia is using same religious irrationality to combat american hegemony.
@@RuralMallu What the f?
@@anilkumarp76 Talk in malayalam തള്ളേയോളി
@@RuralMallu We did not ask proof for your cultureless character.
Back then students sounded like leaders now leaders sound like drop outs 😂😂😂
Bruh drop out toh tab honge na jab wo school jayenge😕
@@muscularsquirrel7119 🤣
@@muscularsquirrel7119
Bro they are dropout PRO. They dropped out before admission with their blank admission form.
@@muscularsquirrel7119 😭😭
To be fair not all students back then are like this- these people are scholars send by their country to understand that other countries and stuff
These guys are having more civilized debate than most of our TV news anchor.
Especially south Asian news anchors.
Right 😃👍.
@@shreeveda Yeah. Right
Because the host herself is calm bro.
60s-90s golden period in human history!
can't believe people in the 60s were so open minded. loved such calm discussion. I hope the present world could be like this.
We are literally evolving backwards i think . Today's generation is much more interested in making reels rather than doing something fruitful for their life .
@@ishikasingh8489 agreed.
Yeah really cool people in the sixties ,racism, segregation, apartheid.
60s is when it started
@@jayd4ever the guy obviously has no idea of history and past events.
The Indian speaker Nalini Nair is my aunt. She pursued her higher education from America. She has always been a source of inspiration. She was modern in thinking despite of invariably being clad in a Saree. She is a retired Professor now. She is happily settled in the US with her children. I was always carried away by her style of conversing in English. It was so articulate. The Pakistani lady is also settled in the US. She was holding a very high position in the UN.
Statement on Sarree is illogical
Good to know. However why do you say saree is not modern?
Wow good to know that. Your aunt was great in this debate
I've seen your aunt in two videos in this series. She is so articulate. A delight to listen to.
What about pakistani girl. What is she doing where?
Pakistan and India sitting next to each other without questioning eachother...I'm surely dreaming
Well people today just have hatred, hatred but nothing else. It's rare to see people who are accepting of differences. I believe we can all exist with differences, it is very beautiful that way.
@@estherselvarani88 very true
@@estherselvarani88 because back that time. It was purely secular . But today its purely political. We must fight as rugged when fighting with thugs. Else we will lose ground.
Gandhi era long gone. We have to struggle for survival for our existence
They had just separated.. barely 12 years
It was possible back then. Now they don't speak English lol
Four students, four religions, four countries, four thoughts ..still a very peaceful and satisfying conversation
Stating their opinions and questioning their beliefs respectfully much different that many adults dealing with religious differences today
Uk and Brazil ones are Christians?
@@AmanVerma-qh9jv may be atheists
@@AspirantKanishka Nope, Catholics and Protestants
444 likes and 4 replies also when I saw.
One thing that stands out to me about these conversations is that, no one is yelling, there is no anger towards the debating party, and they all show a respect towards the others opinion. It's cool to see that.
@@kokila.nnatesan8669 a lot of interesting convos
That can happen today too
The Brazilian girl got upset at the boy and sort of insulted him.
@@BK-ob3lo i think the boy tried to humiliate her and she was feeling a bit insulted. It's not the girl's fault. She was so kind the whole conversation. I think the boy's attitude was a little bit insultingly.
@@mhariszeeshan i don't think so...he was just putting his opinion and questioning her beliefs. He was just asking WHY you believe what you believe.... That's the whole point of a debate
Students were so bright back in those days..no anger, no losing patience, so calm ...wish we could be like them
No internet, only books
@@GamerZoneYT420 true ☺️
@@GamerZoneYT420 and yet you wrote this comment on the internet 🙄
@@chidiogoikeh4550 I'm hypocrite
@@GamerZoneYT420 lol
Seeing a Pakistani and Indian peacefully talking with each other was such a stunning thing to see, even less than 20 years after partition. It’s so beautiful.
I know right but there are people in this world who have a problem with it.
@@mariazafar5146 Terrorist?
Because they were both born as Indians…
@@mariazafar5146 they both were born as Indians…
I'm not blaming anyone I am just telling u guys what I see its just sad how sometimes we are compared as being bad and all which isn't true.
Just imagine the level of education these women from India and Pakistan got. Too sound in English and had very valid points, the way they confidently put their opinions. They seem nearly of my grandparents age. They were lucky to have got such level education possibly because their parents raised them well. They also seem to have come from elite family.
But still failed to explain who and what God is !
@@sandesh9240 Becauze English masters gave them British education specially made for Indian students. What can you expect
@@sandesh9240 given their age and limited experience in that era, I believe that their mind was quite broad to look at different perspectives. They might have learned more with age, unlike other people of their generation who were too narrow minded, let alone having an opinion to speak. Obviously nobody is sure even today what god is.
Also the reason is our generation vr well groomed & educated Bk then When we were ruled by Well mannered educated and systematic English & westerns..
Thn our nation vr high jacked by goons thugs corrupt uncivilized ruler..
@@sandesh9240 can you explain? Can anyone come up with one satisfactory explanation for it, I dont know is it possible dear friend.
This is thousand years ahead from 2021.
Questions to each self which includes me as well - i wana know about the truth or i wana experience the truth ( like food & sleep)....eg when we are really very hungry , r u interested in discussing about food only or wana have experience or self taste of food & same goes for sleep as well.....their is mystic master before 1200 years shared that "as soon as thought arises , we were all generally travel towards the 9 doors , except 1" ..... that's the paradox & puzzle , indication & hint , on the path for all those really ready & ripe seeker , who is ready to take a plunge , without much verbal circus & mind spegetti but to work on self deeper exploration of highest human possibilities & potential for mystic alchemy transmutation.
Yes @Prateeti
@@Meow3.3. 62 years is a lot of time. A lot. And nowadays people can't talk about religion this freely, someone always takes offence
Omg finally I've found someone who is Barua!! I am Barua too!! 😂
@@prateetibarua4607 read Advaita Vedanta u bs
I really liked how the Indian girl and British guy were so clear about their perspective, weren't going in circles and were asking valid questions. I really liked the answers given by the Hindu girl about her religion and her clarity on it.. also how respectful she has been throughout the discussion.. 👏👏
Yeah me too
Because she is a hindu And British guy is rational person
But I thought the Pakistani girl was influential and smart as well
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 no she is Limited.and human and it's thinking is beyond.any thing or a particular book can't be perfect.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 she is also a rockstar 🔥
They are tearing each other down, questioning each other's belief but their faces are like😁😁😁
I think that is best part...if everyone had this attitude of solving problems, that would be great.
Ha Ha Ha...... Exactlyyy.... 🤭
@@sub1994hash so true lol.
Thats what makes it so beautiful. Respectful discourse. Compare to todays sessions on TV with opposing political parties
Their face😁😁😁👌👌👌👌
Why does it feel like 1960's was way ahead of even our time? they have raised such good points without offending anyone. they all have such sharp and open minds, our society lacks the kind of education these people had.
I agree.
It's the privilege of having wealth and advanced technology that we forget nowadays that we are in fact human like all others in the world, unity of people should exist irrespective of their community or country. More and more advanced the humans become the easier it is to forget the purpose of humanity and on the other hand if the purpose of humanity can be respected even when we are at an advanced stage consider that we win
Because the education today is mostly concentrating the skills need to be developed rather than the knowledge about society
Becuase we are playing pubg and wandering behind heroes and heroines 😢😢😢
Definitely not everyone back then was like that
Why do I see that people of that era have these beautiful innocence. Everyone. So soft spoken. I think our current social media dependent society has corrupted our mind
people of that era was divided because or religion , people of that esa are more cruel than us
@@cornflowerfields3340 still we are much better than them
@@cornflowerfields3340 still we are better than them
This is just a biased statement..
Reality check : No one was ever innocent in this world.
Ever.. no matter the timeline you refer to
@@cornflowerfields3340 Morality and behvioural quality.. both are relative.. what you think and what's there are NOT the same
Loved how Nalini was able to explain Hinduism in a very clear way.
It's not religion
Indian girl is next level! What a glorious tradition she represents.
Absolutely right, Thats why India is the best 🇮🇳
Believe me as an indian girl I don't think that our country is the best it may look best to u but believe me it's not
@@TrumpThomas123 oh PLZ
@@rocky-jy5nx sounds like you need to read India's history and delve into it's culture. sounds a bit stupid to say others have the wrong idea of india when you clearly don't too:)))
Now people blindly yells jai shri ram, allahu akbar. Don't want to know anything. Anyone refuse to do it, simply beat him to death
This is exactly how a debate should be. no interruptions when someone is talking, listen to each other's point, keep the voice at the same tone😁.
Brazilian girl was like please God come here and show them that you really exist 😂😂😂
Perfectly put😂😂
@@XAheli lol thanks 🙏
@@LYstormDR chill😂
Lmaoo
I'm Brazilian and I say that most are just like that.
Nalini is such a rockstar !😭The perspective she gave about her religion & practice is such an inspiration for future generations !❤️🙌
But I thought the Pakistani girl was influential and smart as well
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 yes she is !🤗
May I know What perspective she gave..what did you understood about Hinduism from her..I think she didn't do good
@@Mo-qh3in I understood nothing , be happy😂 , I don't have time to argue online , also take care !🙂
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 yes
This got randomly recommended to me. And I'm not disappointed. This shows how backwards our generation have gone.!
Same here. And I am glad I watched rather than some random bs. How mature,composed and respectful they were yet firm onto their belief and voice.
Exactly
They are elite students. All students in India didn't have that privilege. Most of them didn't go past class 2.
How backwards why dragging today's generation in everything?
@@shiva_iitkgp put 4 people from different country to talk about different religion and about God . India and Pakistan will have a mini war there itself. Yes not all will fight. But mostly we can't get through a discussion about God without offending each other
The lady representing India , makes me so proud today...60 years ago she was there... competing with the world...and showing the way for future generations... ✋✋👍👍
108 likes ... i wont spoil it by clicking "like"
@FactualhistoryofBritishRaj Aur tu kiske talwe chaat raha hai vo bata 😂
and what her future generation become ?
But I thought the Pakistani girl was influential and smart as well
🙏
1920's teens: participating in wars
1950's teens: participating in debates
2000's kids : creating flat earth groups in internet
Idk who you're talking about but every single flat earth group I've come across on the internet was made by someone over 30
What have you done so far? Commenting on videos and post?
Since you like to compare today's teens to the teens of the 50's lemme ask what did you do when you were a teen? Anything amazingly intellectual?
@@harshavardhan-qi8nn
What do you think youtube is kiddo
2020 making tiktok videos
They had been selected out of thousands of students from their respective countries, so it's natural that they are best in the business.
Nalini was calm and composed, answering with smile. Nalini nailed it😎
Biased 😅
I sincerely appreciate the moderator. She just sets the context and patiently listens to the argument without interrupting. Unlike moderators today, who think of themselves as an expert on every topic.
I think Nalini was simply superb. What I might want to rephrase is, Hinduism allows me to question itself and tells me to go on the path of discovery of truth. And that is why she emphasizes on how different it is from religions.
Beautifully said!
Exactly 💯 correct
*Remember that!* Don't let Hinduism fall in wrong hands! *Fascist Hindutva will convert this wonderful open idea of Hinduism into a radical Talibani Islam!*
@@bobinpune clearly u dont respect other religions
nah dont agree
Pewdiepie was right about one thing: society is evolving, just backwards.
@Games Account Bro, I am not looking to a RUclipsr for advice. This is just a joke.
@Games Account That person "Games Account"- I'm not sure I understand what he thinks I understand.
@Games Account lmao you killed him ahah
Your reference proved it
@death clover Btw, I'm Indian, but I ain't hurt
One of the rarest situations where India and Pakistan were together 😂😅
OMG I am 24 years old who went to NYC high school and I must admit I don't even have the miniscule level of articulation skill like these kids do. Their maturity is astounding, I just wonder how did we drop intellectually from that to now within 50 years.
I was wondering the same. I guess somewhere along the line, the education system, in aspirations, to be inclusive of all sections of the society, has brought it a bar or two lower. These students were elites, a few who were fortunate to get education amidst the pertaining oppression and steretypes. Nowadays it’s misleading to think you can gain intellectual expertise via only the education system. Extra work needs to be put in.
@@madhav1 👍🏻 you are right!
Blv me only one or maybe two of em are "intellectual" but the rest of em just did a simple skit and scan research -in simple terms they prepared cause they were told to.
I too have done these debates and contradictory discussions. As long as you are prepared everything's normal
Well they aren't representative of average person back than. India had like 10% literacy at the time of independence.
I grew up within TV till 10. I see the diff In my children. We read. We talked. We were very curious. I think my kids are constantly absorbing social media. Very little free time to think or even read and yes they are less talkative.
Everyone were speaking about religion where there's Nalini speaking about existence. She never uttered a name of Hindu god which makes clear that the religion is not about god but it is about finding path to truth of life.
@@iman7251 that guy is a joker😂😂😂
@@pranav7240 Did I miss something, bro?
Jesus sais" I Am The Way, The Truth, and The Life". He came to reveal himself as a Friend and gave himself to die for our sins. He is the answer to our Sins. He is the way to moksha
@@preethi-1723 jesus himself couldn't atain moksha😂
@@preethi-1723 See. You prove me right.
It's what "Jesus" said is what you said. And I hope you know the number of "GODS" in Hinduism.
And if you really know what MOKSHA is then you must be knowing how to attain it.
Well, the point is "It is said by God(generalizing the concept of GOD) not Jesus or Allah or any other GODS."
62 years earlier yet, thousands of years ahead! A perfect example of how you can argue, not by raising the voice but by raising the level of points that you make!
Just look at the Indian news channels today. Pathetic.
Yes sir but their generation failed to educate their children and for so the by product we are riping today.
I maybe be generalizing but, by George, talking about religion when there are so many other problems in that era that needed to be solved were overlooked. That's why they are stuck in their paradoxical consciousness of what to choose or not.
People in comments acting like this is of some ADDI MANAV era
24:15 "has religion made God, or God made religion"
The most basic question of this whole debate.. kudos to Nalini for pointing it out. She must be at the age of my Grandmother now, I hope she made a good life.
Neither. God made humans who made religion.
@@JM-jj3eg Nah. Humans made up God and Religion both.
@@JM-jj3eg Allah says in Chapter 5, Verse 3: "Today the disbelievers have given up all hope of ˹undermining˺ your faith. So do not fear them; fear Me! Today I have perfected your faith for you, completed My Favour upon you, and Chosen Islam as your way.". That Religion is Islam which is the way of all the prophets and their nation that obeyed them, who Believe in Allah Alone and that He has No Partners nor does it Befit Him...
@@DipayanPyne94 Allah Created Man, rather it was He who ordained for us to be in the wombs of our mother. Where was your intellect then, when he nurtured you in the darkness of the womb. Where was your intellect then..? Man isn't self-sufficient and Won't Ever Be... Man was Created By Allah and Will Return To Him.. It is to Him the Final Destination So Fear Him and Worship Him Alone for He will ask you about your life and how you lived it. Your time and what you did. Your Money and How you spent... What will you say on that day? For He already knows...
@@jayantsingh3078 What is it that you say..?
Can't believe this was actually recorded in 1959. We have stepped back so much since then. We can't have such open minded discussions anymore.
62 years ago, these teenagers had insightfulness like that, how calm and eloquently they spoke. Am awestruck listening to each word and thought expressed!! I wish they are all Alive today and would love to see them talk again.
Right ❤️
These people are from elite class and they don't represent their generation. People from that generation were much worse in every aspect than today's generation. Sexism, Racism, Apartheid.......... and so much more.
@@alokbaluni8760 this is all exist today, we think by external things that we got freedom and things but we r actually evolving backwards..
Now what is the depth the teens talk? .
theres a video out where they talked recently
Don't forget that this debate is happening 10 years after the independence and partition. People in 60s are clearly more tolerant. After 70 years of independence it's hard to imagine that Indian and Pakistani can sit on a table having debate over religion and not getting offended.
ONLY FILTHY THINGS NEED TO BE " TOLERATED " 😒😒
I suspect they recognized each other more as having been the same people under the British Empire. Nowadays Indians and Pakistanis never knew each other like that, except for some elderly people, and have only been raised to see each other as enemies.
@Prasanth J many more Papisthan zantabad have already grown up by 2022 within India!!
They all need a book with author not the correctness of the contents while one of them didn't need any rewards nor name and history of the author but just live the current life happily!!
Those Author oriented don't even want to know their own origin!?
Pakistan wasn't a piece of land belonged to India and people living there weren't Indians?? Do they ever treat India as their motherland!? No, they neither love it nor have any good opinions about it.... that's the reality of every product of the cycle of creativity!!! Competition and destruction of everything that is not 'I', 'My', 'Mine' ...🤣
Why do you want Pakistan to be your friend, like partition happened for a reason, if they were all lovey dovey with each other no politicians can even dare to part them.
And that's for the valid reason if u know what is happening from Pakistan side ? Over the years many things changed politics divided us but it's mentality what will keep us divided
The man in the debate is extremely intelligent. The questions he raises are actually thought provoking. His observations are relevant even today. His points and discussions brought out some very important points from others. 👏🏼👏🏼
WoW 🇮🇳 & 🇵🇰 why can’t we have such openness today? Healthy discussions!!
Because for clapping we have to use both hands
@@gamingrocks8537 pandit ji you're very right
Because they are both females
agr asaa hua toh party election kasaa ladaa gee... 😂
@@saritarani5557 I don’t think so sister because the meeting was very calm and expressive.
I love how Nalini is super patient and calm and addresses every point very maturely
She herself admitted she is Convent educated and hardly knows Hinduism, just a deracinated Macaulay progeny
@@raconteurhermit1533 *She has read Upanishds and Ved.* Western education actually brought critical thinking back to India. Otherwise the caste system had destroyed critical thinking in Hinduism!
We are slowly going back to middle-ages with stupid, radical Islamist idea of Hindutva!
@@bobinpune Western academia employ these sepoys with colonized minds to doctor atrocity literature
Pseudo intellectual in social sciences History ,anthropology etc, don't even know Sanskrit, rely on mistranslated works produce mediocre & unscholarly work ,they should be exposed & penalized
@@bobinpune how do u have so many subscribers with no videos?
The question really is, how did we get here from there? I mean tiktok and all
The debate is more civilized than social media of today's world
Fact!
As years went by, I feel the standard of education has come to this level that children do not have a vision or mission other than passing their exams. see the way these high school students are putting forward ideas ..... ......❤
"just because your mind is human and you think in terms of cause and effect, it doesn't mean that the whole creation came about by cause effect, your own mind has as certain limits but it doesn't mean that the whole world has." - The UK boy
UK boy seeded by whom
Questions to each self which includes me as well - i wana know about the truth or i wana experience the truth ( like food & sleep)....eg when we are really very hungry , r u interested in discussing about food only or wana have experience or self taste of food & same goes for sleep as well.....their is mystic master before 1200 years shared that "as soon as thought arises , we were all generally travel towards the 9 doors , except 1" ..... that's the paradox & puzzle , indication & hint , on the path for all those really ready & ripe seeker , who is ready to take a plunge , without much verbal circus & mind spegetti but to work on self deeper exploration of highest human possibilities & potential for mystic alchemy transmutation.
The Indian girl explained birth and death cycle of life. The UK boy just said it in a fancy way. Life cycle is cause and effect in a way
They all must be grandpa and grandmas by now.
The UK guy and the Indian girl had married , trust me 😁
I love how Nalini said about that it's not a religion it's a philosophy.. it gave me a vibe.
Big respect to Indians from a native Australian
Have met native Australians you are bunch of good people always had good logical conversation and look bit similar to Indians just a bit bigger in size.
Infact my facial feature quite similar they would mistake me as one of them. Lol
You are a true Australian sir! Australia belongs to you - beautiful country that it is.
@@gautamv952 those spiders be creepy though and by saying australia belongs to you is a weird statement when it is stating the obvious.
@@cybershake9200 I was merely referring to the fact that Native (Indigenous) Australians are the original inhabitants of Australia, and hence the most Australian of Australians. 🙂
But I thought the Pakistani girl was influential and smart as well
I am now 51 years old. In 1959 my father was in 9th class. These students are extraordinarily performed.
I was awed by “create, preserve, and destroy” philosophy. Indian girl was next level.
This is just dream world created talks the hindu girl was saying. I couldnt get her point
Because you are Indian
@@aroosafarooq6838 That's the Hindu philosophy.... Hindus believe that the ultimate manifestation of the divinity is in the form of 3 forces to sustain the universe: Brahma(The force of creation), Vishnu (The force of preservation) and Shiva(The force of destruction) ....
The Universe is created, preserved and destroyed in an eternal continuous cycle over a huge span of time and space( I don't remember the exact Vedic calculations)...
@@aroosafarooq6838 Think about your body. Think about a plant. Think about a cloud. All the way to life of a star. It's create, preserve, destroy.
@@Account-user exactly hinduism is difficult to understand much like a science in itself
Nalini's smile and confidence , Rafi's eyes and to the pointness , Johnny's clear replies , Alice's questions and the host who did a great job made me watch this video 🔥they aren't teenagers , this is what you call a grown up behaviour 👏
What I can see are those beauties having gossips 😍
Nowadays girls of this age is busy in instagram reels
@@sreekesh23 nowadays guys of this age are busy commenting shit like this
Rare to find like them now a days. Isn't it ?
@@kicksiddik6795 that too and the people like them these days are ignored and frowned upon for voicing their opinions. sent hate towards and never understood. insteading of finding people like them, be them. its really hard to find a good debate when people aren't even allowed to voice their opinions properly. in news channels nowadays if you see debates it always goes like- "one person saying something" "another person interrupting" "everyone else blabbering about how everyone's opinions suck" - they never try to prove or point out.
I just like the aura around nalini Nair. She's calm, wise and almost monk like.
That's what happens when a child grows up in an environment of growth, learning, knowledge
@Fourthreichrobespierre Kerela is a communist country
Not included in india
And she is hindu
Hindu is only related to Aryans not Dravidians
@@JupiterGrowth what is the spelling of Kerala?
Kerala is a country?
@@JupiterGrowth A keralite here. Kerala is definitely not a communist 'country'. Communist govt is ruling here now, just like congress govt has ruled before. Kerala is very much a part of India and will remain so.
@@arathyvr792 Malayali 🙌🏼
I can listen to Nalini all day..... intelligent girl with that voice and smile
I imagine where they are right now, whether they are alive, how their life was and is and how much they influenced society as a whole
They most probably are , maybe in their 70s
@@shreerupghosh8782 They are already teenager's or maybe adult how can thay be in their 70s? Do you mean they were 9 or 10 at the time of this video?
@@Korosensei5891 ok maybe at their 80s then .
@@shreerupghosh8782 Dead
@Varoon I too searched about them and found the same info, but i'm still confused whether they are one and the same, is this John Goulden the same as one in video??
John - Mature
Nalini - Wise
Rafia - Honest
Alice - Confused
Alice: believer
Johnny's mindset is way ahead of his time. Excellent mindset.
Alice - Scared of her Mother
@@cinephilebuddy464 I died laughing 🤣
@@cinephilebuddy464 🤣🤣🤣
As a Brazilian, I must say that Indians are extremely intelligent. I've liked the country since I was a child. I listen to Bollywood and Tollywood music once in a while.
I'm glad that I had the privilege to speak to Indians in person, though it was only briefly.
If I had half the intellect of Nalini or Gopi (from another video), I would be happy.
Much respect.
I found it interesting that this video has a Brazilian girl. All in all, an interesting debate.
I wonder how it would be if there was a person who practiced an Afro-Brazilian religion.
EDIT: Eu sou sim brasileiro, nascido e criado em SP! Só aprecio culturas no geral, incluindo de outros países.
Thank you 😊🙏
@@TrilokdanGadhavi10 No problem :)
Have a good weekend!
@@t.castro4493 same to you 😊👍
Thank you love from india 🇮🇳
@@t.castro4493 Do you really watch bollywood? unironically? I mean, on a boring sunday on a friend's house just for the clumsiness. Maybe it is a very peculiar niche idk...
I had forgotten what a healthy and ideal debate looks like. This brought back the memories.
It’s impressive that teens in 1959 were more articulate, intellectual and most importantly religious (even if questioning) than teens today. Our education systems have failed over the generations.
Our education system has failed. But the importance that you are emphasising on religion rather their intellectual is what has to change in today's world.
@@deeksha6199 And why do you think it is wrong?
@@robocop5543 History has many examples of religious extremism. It is estimated that 195 million people have died due to religiously motivated wars and genocides. And many more are suffering today. However, it's not that all religions are harmful; it's the people that are idiots.
If you are able to understand them as intellectual and articulate , your education hasn't failed you .
If a person becomes ignorant then only you can say that Education has been a waste
Modern day education systems promoted lust, greed, competition, selfishness and lot of porn and sexual content. We see it as population increased, so did the fall of consciousness per individual. More Quantity = Less Quality.
Look at the decency of the debate, imagine the same thing today, our ear drums would have torn.
That ear was of discipline and diginity , and
This British guy sounds like a time traveller. I like his line of argument. He sounds like a present day person
Half of the Britishers who ruled India never actually believed in Christianity in real terms , if they were Christian they would not have brutally harassed and persecuted our Indians ; in today's Britain there are only approximately 28 % people who are Christian .
The rhythm in the English language was so different during this era. Such a pleasant sounding rhythm.
Fr. Absolutely loved him and Nalini (Indian representative)
@@jmac512 I have a question for indians, what makes you guys hate pakistanis and muslims so much over, lets say the british occupation that starved millions of indians.
Not trying to offend anyone, just curious.
@@yalekhya2996 honestly those talibans shouldn’t even be considered as Muslims . Islam never forces someone to follow their religion. Islam literally means peace. As for the government I can’t say anything, they’re screwed and bulshitters. Whoever politician questioned them, and were against them, the talibans murdered them. It’s all the Army propaganda. Don’t know when we’ll get a great leader like Benazir Bhutto.
As a Hindu, I always question my religion like why is this...why is that.....and every time I end up loving it more and more......
I believe every single religion is just a way of living.... 👍
(Too much information received..... That's why I commented 😅)
I ❤ vedanta
@Vedant Thapliyal why you need to explain sanatan dharma is monotheistic. Why. Is monotheism is better any how than polytheism is it so.
@Vedant Thapliyal Brahman is everything you can and cannot experience you are part of it at the same time every atom energy consciousness matter whatever can be named or not named is part of it.
In Bharat we didn't had a concept of god until islam and Christianity entered our motherland Nor did we had a concept of religion just spirituality.
The god part is only for the one who wants to experience something more by sheer believe or faith it is called bhakti yoga. Which is less than of 1/4 of all the ways which has its own merits and demerits.
@Vedant Thapliyal Yes brother,
But Veda does not say anything as monotheistic it has praises for agni,devi,Indra,shiv,vishnu,etc but not the way abrahamic religion does but it praises their qualities isn't it. Namaskaaram 🙏
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You said "hinduism" is monotheistic
in your first comment now you are saying that arya samaj is monotheistic clash between your clarity.
@SpookyFiles their are only 33 gods(main) in Hinduism and people often confused it with 33 million gods
A sensible Hindu no matter the world's age behaves, talks, feels, and remains the same.
It's a quest for truth with certain morals and values with no fixation and no adamancy.
We question everything, ourselves mostly.
Happy to see a wise hindu here.
Yuck !! 🤮🤮
@Niku Singh That is why she stated 'hinduism is a philosophy, not a religion'. And even after being slaves for 1000 year that philosophy still exist. furthermore If all the people who identify as hindus get extinct in future it will still be alive in the teaching of buddhism, sikkhism, shinto etc......
@Niku Singh what you referring to is the result of politics. Organize religions always had been used as a tool for the political agenda. as far as I know Islam had always been spread thru the sword. As an idea, it never was well equipped. Hinduism as an idea has no worries in that aspect. What you should actually be fearful of is not the islamic people, but the jihadi mindset aka extremism. And extremism is always bad for any community in any way. To counter it you don't need guns but education. Christianity is the best example of this. It was the most radicalized religion in the past but as society had gotten educated, it has mellowed out. I believe the same thing will happen once people can differentiate between politics and faith.
Have a good day!!
@@Itsmeshishir truely said
@Arthur King your reply shows how much you are phobic to hindu's culture. If you would hv watched the video with your senses you would hv understood it that it is not about disrespecting other and proving superiority. You might think Disrespecting hindu deities like krishna and ram make you look cool but you seem uneducated and senseless person while making such comments.
Hinduism is more of spirituality and self seeking than believing. If something seems correct and moral to us why is it important to know who wrote it also by your vulger comment it is shown how racist you are does your religion teaches you this I don't think so. It's just a mindset of a sick person.
The thing you talk about Lord krishna you should know whatever been famous about his pranks and mischief is only part of his childhood. Since his teen when he got realised he was a great diplomat and king.
So educate yourself before you talk bullshit.
Hinduism is not a religion but a philosophy.. I love it...
Thank God for acknowledging this. I'm sick hearing Way of life.
@@pranamjshetty9658 what is bad about way of life??
@@kanishkanegi5594 Way of life is like faith based religions. Like this is only way that you should lead your life.
Hinduism is philosophy based religion. You have to choose what like you want to live
@@pranamjshetty9658 hmm🤔 idk I feel like it depends on the intent of the person. Like what they mean by it when they say that it's a way of life
@@kanishkanegi5594 than Islam, Christianity also way of life.
They're so calm and eloquent..no stuttering, no interruption, no going off the tangent brilliant
The guy from UK is just so calm and well collected respectful as well and made clear solid points which made even myself think even after so many year later it's so hard to see that even in adults nowadays as a teen they're my idols
Nalini just stole the show..How sensibly she answered and cross questioned other panelists is commendable 🙏
@@samundrathapamagar14 "finding out and let you know" by that Brazilian girl was a hesitation to see the facts without religious influence.
@@samundrathapamagar14 I liked Jonny the most. Man seems like a time traveller.
@@samundrathapamagar14 And he is muslim. He has 0 bias towards Nalini.
@@amrita3000 @Samundra Thapa Magar This guy has commented 'just because you're Indian you support Nalini' on multiple other comments supporting her, seems he just can't acknowledge that people don't have to be of a specific country to support that person.
@The False Writers he probably is. I said AND he is muslim. So he has 0 bias towards Nalini.
Nice To see Pakistani women represented without burkha or even hijab in 60s!
@✷𝕁𝕚𝕟'𝕤 𝕣𝕒𝕞𝕖𝕟⁷✷ 🤦🏻♀️The freedom is being talked about. It was her choice to don a hijab or not, nowadays, it hardly is.
I remarked that she had the freedom to choose whether or not to wear hijab in that era. In today's age of fanaticism, there is hardly any freedom of choice in this matter- it is more of a compulsion. I didn't contradict myself 🤷🏻♀️ . Congratulations, you've descending into the lands of whataboutery but still I'll honour that with a response for the sake of civility. Agreeably many Indian offsprings align themselves to their parents' point of view when it comes to the matter of matrimony, it is not always forced, it all arises from a place of respect and admiration not compulsion. Forced marriages are a matter of concern but not that common. Even if they were, I can still talk about fallacious matters without being compelled to entertain a multitude of whatabouteries justifying anything and everything wrong in this world. 🤷🏻♀️ Besides being an Indian doesn't automatically translate to having parents who'll force a matrimonial bond upon oneself. Hopefully, you don't live in a world tainted with monochromatic vision. If you do, get well 🔜.
@@DivyaAgarwalDb105 I think you have never been to Pakistan🤣🤣🤣
@@DivyaAgarwalDb105 shut the hell up, are you from pakistan? How do u fuckin know? I am from pakistan and girls dress the way they want, we don't dress like west because it's in our culture and religion also, it is clear u are from India I can see by ur name, don't talk if u don't know anything
@✷𝕁𝕚𝕟'𝕤 𝕣𝕒𝕞𝕖𝕟⁷✷ at least we do not marry our cousins.
Nalini Nair (Indian student) portrayed philosophy of religion very clearly. No limited set of rigid rules can enlighten a human mind. Organized religion was a need of past, in modern times each one is expected to know what morality and responsibility is, one shouldn't need a book to tell them, it should come naturally, as a philosophy of life.
But How how about if God communicated through the book. God using humans as an instrument to communicate with his people.
@@anthonyaguirre1498 Book!!! Cann't he/she/it auto put all this things in our mind if he is the almighty.....how can you ignore infinite possibities for just one which you aren't confirm about?
That's why Hinduism tried to seek not believe and learn more and more to get closer to god if he/she/it exists and to universe and it's existence if god doesn't exist.
@@hsuyaarchives2526 if he put things on our mind then that would be tyrannical and not love. Love is freely choosing. For you it may be force but that is wrong.
And yeah seek and you'll find the truth. I seeked and I became born again, I have found truth.
@@anthonyaguirre1498 but what's so special in a book . Don't treat yourself soo special that only for humans god created books and what about other creatures. Actually human is over estimating itself but indeed is not a grain of sand in this cosmos. Books specially for humans is a gimmick!!! Is sun or gravitation or electromagnetism or food or life any natural law specific for human then why so a book!!!!!A fear mongering about a thing you don't know fully is absurdity and nothing.....
@@anthonyaguirre1498 but as you think you are born again your seeking stopped...
Found the ultimate truth is itself a contradiction to continuous seeking......
If you found the truth then I suppose you are first human to know what's weight of universe and how long it exist, what is time and space, answers to quantum mechanics and all the truths of universe.......
But you or any of your book knows none but continuous human seeking(research) is disclosing it .Isn't it the proof that we don't and cann't know truth to everything by believing on a book and not seeking our whole life.......
3:51 "...I've decided that I must question it." The best way to understand and appreciate anything. Kudos to these children and their wisdom.
I like these teenagers for the way they are having civilised discussion and preserving their innocence by giggling inbetween.
They might be your grandma or grandpa now 🤣🤣
It would be so interesting to get follow-up interviews with these people, after living their lives it would be amazing to hear their stance now.
It would indeed.
Yes indeed
All faith in God would be lessened than their earlier stances. 😎 For sure.
@@zenith808 everywhere i
The sure are atheists.all of them.
The Indian Representative has a next level confidence 🙌🙌
Yes She indeed has
But I find UK guy to be Most Confident
Bravo
@@RajKumarSingh-ff5yh yes the most intellectual one...
Confidence and vocabulary she’s lit bro the way she’s speaking unbelievable
She is a Mallu
Wow I m proud of Pakistan and India our neighbours ❤️🔥.they are the representative of South Asia ❤️. I m from Nepal 🇳🇵
Thank you bro. From your fellow Indian🇮🇳
🇵🇰💜
@Liberandus are illegal son of aurangzeb .🤣😂we don't share border it doesn't mean we are not neighbours 🤣.we have SAARC Organizations for South Asian countries. We all south countries are neighbours ❤️.
@@saameasarfaraz3798 welcome bro❤️💖
The smile on Nalini Nair's face is so innocent .. "God is Life" So powerful line!
The Brazilian girl ,Alice, said God is Life, Nalini is the Indian girl. 2:58 (unless this isn’t what you’re referring to?)
@@Pikachuwhereareyou I was wondering the same...btw this discussion is short
I hv better answer to religion i seek answers for questions
I think everyone is right Alice is right in her own but not acceptable
Pakistani girl is being truthful nd said what she felt
Johy was acceptable nd logical
Nalini is specific but bit not truthful practically
The sequence of maturity was
Alice - Pakistani girl - the British guy -
Nalini is one step ahead
@Varoon You exist because God exists and He gave you Life
@Varoon Yeah true.. these people are so jobless they care about something they can't prove about
And they talk about maturity.
Where is nalini Nair now ?
“HAS RELIGION MADE GOD OR HAS GOD MADE RELIGION” this question from Nalini in something that MUST echo through everyone’s mind in today’s world. If only we all could develop such understanding, we could avoid so many wars and live in a peaceful and harmonious society.
But some people just Blindly believe that their Book is Aasmaani i.e. "Descended Directly from Sky" and interestingly they just Believe it like anything.
U can't change their view
@@RajKumarSingh-ff5yh True. I truly really feel pity for them
U can find many in the comment section itself
@@rajdeepghosh5942
Yeah you can find many braindead bhagwe in the comment section
@@RajKumarSingh-ff5yh
And some people believe that drinking 🐄 💧💧 can cure their cancer
They even bath in it
@@RajKumarSingh-ff5yh
Manusmriti is a terrorist, racist and a discriminatory book which should be banned . It is the cause of india's problems
Not to mention the other "enlightening"(lmaoooo) scriptures
This is an extremely delicate topic, but these 4 debaters made it all the more interesting. I watched it whole with a smile. I loved the frankness and yet a sense of devotion of Rafia. Alice was a bit parochial, and it may be ascertained to her society and the upbringing (not saying in a demeaning sense). John and Nalini are my favourites. There open-mindedness, ability to question one's religion and exercising this liberty in a constructive way had me in there awe. And Nalini pointed it out right: Hinduism was never a religion. People around India were free to practice what they believe in. Shankracharya brought it all under one umbrella as one philosophy; a philosophy of life.
Teenagers with such maturity and insight talking about their religion made for a wonderful watch.
I agree with you completely.Alice didn’t have a sound argument in search for the truth, which was understandable but, her demeaning attitude for other religions didn’t sit well. Malini and Johnny well articulated their questions and answers while Rafia was caught in the middle of going against devotion.
Hahahahahahahhaha
That BS again
"Hinduism is not a religion but a way of life"
Hinduism My foot
Hinduism is a RELIGION
Ancient hindus used to worship idols and other BS
They were religious
@@fearyflamingo2660 Your laughter and your language says so much about your thoughts, and what has been fed to you in the name of religion. Hindus have worshiped idols even before "Hinduism" was formed by Shankracharya. Every region followed its own customs and traditions, which can still be seen today. If you do not do idol worship, how does it become wrong for others? And why should it? Should they need someone else's approval? What for? In your religion, it will all be counted as blasphemous. Such is the sense of superiority fed to you; such hardline attitude. I can see how your religion has been taught to you, and how tolerant you can be to others who do not identify like yourself. There are such entities in every religion. I admit that. But you said Hinduism is a religion. I must knowledge you that we do not follow one God; we do not follow one book; nothing is a commandment for us that it must be followed; we pray or don't, it is up to us; go to temple or not, it is up to us; explore our options (again, nothing is a binding commandment for us); Karma and Dharma have originated from Hinduism; non-traditional sexual orientations are not criminal as per Hinduism; there is no set of laws "governing" us, at all. I will give you another major point as to why Hinduism is not a religion. Even the name "Hinduism" isn't a binding tag for "Hindus", and is not an indigenous noun, either. Like all things and entities that there are which needs to be tagged to be identified, we have the tag "Hindu." "The other BS" that we pray: well, cows feeds us, nourishes us-- just like our mothers do, and just as we see our mothers as a God, so have we revered cows, too. Even this earth we say as "Mother Earth", or "Goddess Earth". It is an expression of our reverence. Most Hindu kids revered their parents as God, and sometimes even above the Gods that they pray(this is too feeble to be seen today); it is Hindu tradition to refer our teachers and gurus as Gods; the tag is an embodiment of this feeling. And, just to point it out, do you see the uniformity in the practices of other religions all over the world. It is because that is the way it "should be," and that they have been spread in a controlled fashion. But Hindus pray different Gods in different locations, within India. And mind you: I have a Gita, Bible, Quran, copies of other religion's holy books in our prayer room-- laid on the same shelf next to each other. If you do that, it will be blasphemous, and imagine the public's reaction. Hinduism is flexible enough to evolve with time. Not many others can say the same, sadly. And remember, hatred is never born; it is always fed. Every religion has been diluted, corrupted, by the means some fair or unfair means, and Hinduism hasn't been spared either. It is not in the same crude form like it was in the beginning. None of the religions are! It has long been a tool for conflicts, politics, and what not. But amidst the uncountable things that are dividing us, we must look for commonalities to identify with each other. There are far bigger problems than religion. I would not have written this, but I felt I need to answer. Listen to what Rafia has said so beautifully, and I respect her so much. You must too, learn to respect something which you do not agree with. And I will end with this: Hinduism allows us to explore and question; it is a sin in most.
I'm American 🇺🇸 but I love ❤️ indian culture 🕉 🕉 🕉 🕉 🕉 hai shri Ram
Hii
Jai shree ram
Phir kya krna
You mean jai shri ram
OM NAMAY SHIVAAY 🚩 🕉 JAI SANATAN DHARMA 🕉 JAI SHRI RAM 🕉🚩🚩🙏🙏🙏🚩🕉
The indian girl seems more mature & logical
*Remember that!* Don't let Hinduism fall in wrong hands! *Fascist Hindutva will convert this wonderful open idea of Hinduism into a radical Talibani Islam!*
@@bobinpune lol hindutva is good now piss off
@@samanbhat3219 nah its not.
@@forwardobservations8222 Better than islamic extremism. hypocrite
@@samanbhat3219 dont compare hinduism with islam....
They were debating , questioning,sharing their views still smiling and calm all the time .. excellent debate 👏🏻👏🏻
Who is that Indian girl?? That confidence and charm is amazing!!
Your aunt
*Pun intended
@@deepee159 could be, after all we’re “Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam”.
@@ST-Dev5 he won't understand it😂
@@ST-Dev5 best reply 👌
@@mr.psk.972 Okay I know only that about her.. So I said ...I will delete
Wow, the Indian speaker talking of such beauty after life, you think an artist hasn’t been rewarded until after death👏
They look so much older ... they are mini adults of their culture they represent!
To see teenagers from India, Pakistan and UK having a civil debate about religion right after independence and partition is beautiful!
How come partition is beautiful?
Diversity is beautiful not the partition.
All of them would have been young children of 5 years old in 1947. And all of them lived in the United States
@@rickbarrington Yes, but if we as 3rd or 4th generation after the independence are well aware of what the impact was, they definitely are. The impact of 1947 went on for decades with communal riots, partition, Bangladesh and Pak wars so even if they weren't involved in 1947, there was a lot happening in the following few decades (given the hatred between India and Pak and LOC clashes, even now it's a big deal to have a civil debate)
Also, none of them are from the US. It's a student exchange in US, they were selected after winning debates in their respective countries. They clearly have accents lol. You can watch other videos on the channel for more clarity.
Partition was worst and war between different people with different ideologies of country leading millions of death and migration. It's worst
Still so many teenage live under poverty
We would hab better generation if that partition never held
Rafia and Nalini truly siesed the debate I truly appreciate how Rafia spoke boldly and stood for what she perceived and So did Nalini se was so composed and spoke correctly of her culture and they both said that they truly questioned so many practices all in all both of them did great
was rafia okay after her return.
Believe me no body back home atleast 90% of their.country men at that time would not have understood her points, she might have belonged to elite class of Punjab province
Yes
@Muhammad Al fateen Bro I am talking about only Pakistan and their hate mindset our Indian Muslim have achieved so much in every field
@Muhammad Al fateen I accept all pakistani r not bad but the good should stand against what's bad happening they can't even condemn an terr@rist attack.
Such a beautiful and harmonious debate on a topic which is impossible to even think of debatting now, Arnab would have died on spot by calmness of these people.
All people here are like "They were so educated, wayyy more than us." Nope. They are the best of the best. You'll find atleast 2-3 such students in almost every school today. It wasn't this common back then. We have many many such students nowadays.
But I agree, that the news debates nowadays, meh.
finally someone with common sense. probably these people were the elite among the elites .knowledge has become more accessible in the recent times.
Finally someone with common sense. there is no point in Conducting useless debates becase we get nothing from it. it is just a source of entertainment , they were just wasting their time because we all know that nothing has changed and nothing is gong to change.
@@FactCheckTV18 'they' you mean people in this video?
Yes, academics is like this only today also.
Finally someone with a brain
Loving how well mannered these People are, we have lost how to respectfully question others. I Don't pray to god, but the questions about life and existence are something I think about everyday. I take the challenges and teachings and I pull in the pain and hurt and trying spread happiness. Regardless of what religious beliefs one has, helping others, seeking enlightenment, and developing oneself while respecting the Nature is what I have come to believe in is the path of life.
the sheer confidence of these teens is eating me
The Indian girl explained Hinduism very well she has really good points respect 💯
I liked the way they were giggling in between after making contradictory statements against one another because they knew how to react while talking on such sensitive topic. So cool!
Can we all appreciate the fact that we were able to hear all of their points unlike now it's just a bunch of people screaming at each other.
Although I agree with Nalini more. I feel like all of them have a very broad minded perspective. They had some very interesting views for someone of their age. They all spoke so eloquently while actually listening what the latter said. This interview was so insightful.
Normalise simple grammer :P
12:08 the very reason Islamic terrorism exists, because they think it's 'good' according to their book and they go to heaven, Nalini clearly has a point that this not how it should be.
Here 🙋🏾♀️ I found an islamaphobe
@@user.idk7389 funny you call anyone a islamaphobe when islamic terrorism really exists and they'd decapitate you for any reason that they think is rightful. I'm not against islam i'm against islamic terrorism, one has to address it even if he is a muslim.
@@user.idk7389It's a fact man, not an Islamophobe. Otherwise tell me, source of motivation of terrorists?
@@mohitm2591 other religions did the same, forcefully made others convert but no one sees that as terr0rism. The christain colonies and their forceful conversions, hindus just never held as much power to conquer others in history. Majority of conquerers were christains and Muslims but becuz people like to worship the whites they don't point fingers at them
OMG, this actually makes me cry cause how messed up we are today. Our society really did move backwards, today we have zero tolerance, cannot question anything, or have rational discussion. Today if you question, you are termed anit-national, anti-religion or anti-something.
We were messed up back then, that's why we were much more backward back unlike today. Hard power is necessity.
Lol what bs
Society is much more tolerant today
@@fearyflamingo2660 Hilarious that our society is getting a tag of tolerance from the most intolerant person in the comment section
@@AP-nu7hb
Hilarious that not a single indian in the comment section has tried scamming me
Hello SAAAARRRR 😂
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anti - religion ( iconoclast or blasphemy)
OMG. I am so surprised by the responses of Indian and Pakistani girls. They questioned everything so well! It is crazily amazing that several years back, they can differentiate between life and God & philosophy and religion! I am sure I wasn't that well learnt at all during when I was of their age!
They are intellectual genetically and culturally. They still have colonial hangover.
Because of education system
The Nair girl's confidence is really good. She really bought out the common sense question on why would God be bothered with one in 8 billion's physics midterm test? 😂
Pakistani girl is more knowledgeable and confident.
@@praveenkumaries008 Both are knowledgeable no need to compare
@@sapien9043 ... Oh..Katakana/Hiragana... U seems to be based in Japan... Where is spent two years....
I think fair comparison is not wrong.
@@praveenkumaries008 No, I am Pakistani and also live in Pakistan. In my opinion, you cannot decide whether a person in more knowledgeable than the other by seeing/hearing just one debate.
@@sapien9043 .. I am not deciding mohtarma... It's my opinion based on my observation. And I don't think it is an offence. In ur ID u r using Japanese that's why I asked.
The girl in saree killed it ❤️✨... proud 🦋
What a positive debate these people were having back in 1959. I'd say they were light-years ahead.
I mean they are the most elite of elite. Most educated kids in their entire country. Nowadays you will find more kids.Earlier it was like 1 in 20 now it’s 1 in 5. Educated kids are more common. Talk to an extremely start child.
If you noticed something, John and Nalini seem to agree more with each other. India and UK - the thought process of free thinkers.
@Niku Singh the slave who fucked his master and got its independence and it's developing very fast in current world ....and is not racist like his master
@@rihaan1163 actually india is extremely racist lol
Hey wait don't be mistaken. Rafia was as much of a free thinker. For her to question Islam back then is just wow. I wouldn't imagine a Muslim doing it now without being blamed for blasphemy lol. Only the Brazil girl has clearly never contemplated on her religion and the way everyone is raised.
@@hnah8680 Brazil girl was thoroughly brainwashed. For her just put “Jesus” on the title of a book, she will go crazy for it. UK as usual have breadth, depth and flexibility in their thought process. I say this even if they were colonists of India. No wonder Pakistan of 1970s and 1980s was much advanced than Pakistan of 1990s and now. It is downhill for Pakistan, and there is no petro oil for them to cover up.
British Ruled india and installed its Civilization and British Eduation system. hence it is agreeable.
Randomly suggested by youtube and its a hidden gem which should be circulated to see how eloquently can points be put forward and how debates can happen in such a dignified way. Beautiful representation of their own religions and very practical way of questioning it with acceptance. Just wow !!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
They talk with such class and elegance, even the tone of voice feels so gentle and calming..
I personally think Johnny ( American) and Nalini ( Indian) had sound arguments, both raised important questions throughout the argument and had well articulated answered.
Johnny is not American
the guy's british
John is White (British)
Johnny's british, mate.
Johny was from England
Nalini's way of putting logical opinions is commendable! 👌🏼
Ya
She is from tamilnadu
Actually from Kerala
poda patti chakra kundi. thendi my re these are the words my kerala mallu friends taught me 😉😊
The Brazilian girl's points were better
I love how they challenge and borderline insult each other with a friendly smile on their faces.
That's the thing. There are no insults. Today yes we may view them as insults because the world is so PC.
@@dharandini2742 I wouldn't say the world is so PC but rather people just lost the ability to communicate more diplomatically. The internet definitely fostered that