Great as ever. A tremendous very much appreciated series devoted to something that a lot of us old boys hold dear. I'm 50 with four sons. Forced Max on all of 'em and they love it. Thank you for your continued work.
In 1997 mate.. Miller was in Sydney working on Babe Pig in the City. I know, I was there. And I recall lots of lunch time talk about Fury Road - well before it became "Fury Road". Most of the initial concepts came down to four people : Miller himself, Peter Pound, Colin Gibson and Mark McKinley. This last name was Colin's go to guy for film car mechanics at the time, much the same as I was for his set electrics. Much of this lunch room banter would live on to inspire Miller as to what was and wasn't possible... and the rest is history. I went on to get my name in lights (literally) two years later with Moulin Rouge, leaving Colin and Mark grinding on for another ten years before they finally got to make their pub talk dream.. Fury Road. Gotta love Aussie film making of that era. Oh and yeah.. the Pleiades myth... you are correct. I heard that one mentioned several times in those early days, particularly in references to aboriginal mythology - never thought anything of it - makes sense now. I guess it was the collective attempt to make the film as Australian as possible... even though half of it was filmed in Namibia..
Just imagine, hundred years into the future. Young people come together around a camfire where the older starts telling this myth, this story of a warrior, running from his past into wild adventures. Everyone imagines this person like a traveler, with his horse, and his sword, in the middle of nowhere. And then the camera swtiches slowly to a black path, known as a road. The last road, and this warrior appears on his black horse, that's actually the Falcon XB screaming it's V8, followed by maniacs, fighters on berserk, completely high on madness. That's the story of the ROAD WARRIOR
The aboriginal man is in thr game. He is the guy that levels u up. I just hope mad max game has the almost witcher like. Unlike being a batman on the ground. More stories in the story i suppose. Unlike the rip off batman version that was repetitive and long fetch quests. But graphically and the vehicle gameplay and conbat was great and base capture was great, if it all ties up a story like witcher.
Speaking of the music in the movies, Ive always thought that the reason the movies resonate as timeless is that George was wise enough to know never to use current music as an ingredient. Can you imagine the chase scene in Road Warrior with the BeeGees 'Stayin, alive?' So many wannabe movies make this mistake and it immediatly dates the movie. In the road warrior I always thought the only thing that really took me out was the crimped hair on the main heroine. That fad only lasted a few months. A girl I had a crush on in highschool crimped her hair so maybe its more me than the movie. My heart breaks a little too much everytime she dies... ...Anyways, orchestral music adds to the tension and really makes the action.
I absolutely agree. That's why Road Warrior's soundtrack is timeless, there's not a shred of anything that would date it. Couldn't say that about MMBT's soundtrack and Fury Road's OST isn't as defined as RW's, a lot of drums, score not really that custom tailored for each scene in my opinion.
I love all 3 soundtrack from Mad Max, in 1981 no one used pop music in movies unless they were actually composed for the movie, like the case of Beegees staying alive for Saturday Night fever, today EVERYONE uses pop music, current and classic songs, for movies of every genre, it has become anoying, but now most modern audiences discover classic songs from superhero movies, I was listening to Cat Stevens Father and son and every comment was about a new Marvel movie that had this classic song
I thought that for Mad Max BT Miller wanted to do a new version of Lord of the Flies and when it did not come through, he used this idea for the next Mad Max. This is why this movie felt like two movies into one. I also thought Miller always wanted to only do two Mad Max movies. See IMDB "The film was originally not a "Mad Max" film, but a post-apocalyptic "Lord of the Flies" film about a tribe of children who are found by an adult. It became the third Mad Max film when George Miller was suggested that Max is the man who finds the children.""
Mad Max 2015 video game Griffa is a character that appears in Mad Max a strange and mysterious person filled with wisdom and understanding of the world both he and his fellow survivors inhabit says look behind you at dune after dune of drifting half-forgotten terrors You flee them these past phantoms and the madness that crawls inside Griffa can help you venture down to where you daren't go yourself and lay bare your true promise Awesome video bro thumbs-up & keep-em coming ah Aussie Aussie oi oi
Excellent upload! I started watching the mid 90's Aussie teen soap 'Heartbreak High' at the start of lockdown, thought I recognised MMFR writer Nico Lathouris from somewhere. He plays the dad George Poullos. Weird how things are conected.
Lucky one. I've trying to get an polish version of first season for about... ten years? Looks like tapes were lost or sth. You forced me to check again and looks like it's totally unobtainable right now :( Looks like I've got to get an box set if its floating around Ebays etc :(
As much as I was impressed with Tom Hardy's performance I can't help thinking that Mel would have been a far better fit in the role had the stars aligned. I'd felt that prior to Fury Road going into production - and your reveal only confirms that. It's just too bad that Mel was off the rails back then. Your video has given me cause the look at George Miller in a very different light.
The thing about Fury Road being myth also ties into why Miller refuses to be pinned down on WHEN it takes place in the Mad Max chronology. It's like trying to tie down in which year Pecos Bill dug the Rio Grande.
Mad Max 1 was for his fan base back home in QLD, 2&3 was for his demolition derby fan base, and 4 was for his conscious. That iceberg grounded itself in my life, before Mad Max 1 even had Copywrite status.
I believe thats going to be prequeal. Which will hopefully explain why max is crazy at the beginning of fury road, but before that Miller is making a furiosa prequeal. Which i think will be fine but i kind of want a mad max. About max, as he felt like more of a side character in fury road.
The thing about coincidental or not so coincidental in the works of art is that it happens all the time. And the most important thing is - how good is the end result of that stealing or borrowing. Mad Maxes are perfectly executed. They have the artistic and the engineering appeal of the engines and overall design, the composition is perfect and so is the editing. There's humor, brutality, and humanity in it. And it doesn't sacrifice the quality of the movie to push some idea or agenda. These things turned those movies into classic.
The ancient man really reminded me of Griffa from the 2015 video game, do you think there's maybe a connection there? Or did the game developers just take the ancient man and "rebranded" him? Griffa seems to know a ton about max and his mind, even though Max has never met him, and Griffa "taps into his mind" (or however you'd phrase this) and gives him abilities. And throughout the entire game, Griffa tells Max that he's just running from his past, unable to see the future, or something along those lines.
They very well might have, yeah. They took a bunch of stuff from Fury Road's early production to make the game, I wouldn't be surprised if Griffa was at least inspired by the Ancient Aboriginal man.
@@MadMaxBible I remember at the beginning of Fury Road when Max is trying to escape the War Boys and he sees hallucinations of the people he couldn't save, one of them is an old Aboriginal man. After watching this video where you described the deleted scene from an earlier script, I wondered if maybe that Aboriginal man was a leftover from a previous draft?
@@MadMaxBible So I just looked at the scene you mentioned and saw the guy, but I don' think that's the same person. The guy in Max's hallucinations was much older, had greying/white hair, and a slightly longer beard. The guy behind Furiosa also has what looks like dreadlocks or some similar hair style. If you need proof, here are two videos I linked below. FR Ending ruclips.net/video/rA0jO_FuNag/видео.html FR Opening (You can find the guy around 3:25) ruclips.net/video/oy_LFGCUXRI/видео.html
I forgot if the mad max game was actually the old script they made into a game but coincidentally the movie was going to release and they are not a movie tie up.
Great 2 parter. Very interesting facts and theories. Not saying that all is facts but it leaves a little bad taste in my mouth when Miller actively goes out and says that he didn’t take inspiration from specific stories when it’s obvious.
Just saw a YT interview at Cartoonist Kayfabe with Brendan McCarthy, where he goes into how he got involved with Fury Road. He adds more details on his movie pitch to Miller, who then hired him to co-write and design it. McCarthy's a comic book artist who did a comic derived from Road Warrior called Freakwave - his stuff is pretty wild.
No no no, those are animations from a documentary I found but I animated everything else for what its worth :) My software is really basic, doing the best I can!
@@MadMaxBible Hey I was rewatching your videos and I noticed that the "Unused & Repurposed Ideas in Mad Max" video got tagged as made for kids, which means it doesn't have comments and can't be watched in the miniplayer on mobile devices among others. I don't think that's your intention so I think you should check that.
To be honest, I don't give rat's ass if the story of Fury Road was a rip-off or not. It's the greatest action movie of all times. A perfect Heavy Metal style movie. I really hope the two prequels will be as good as this one.
Thank you! I planned on making this thing longer but YT says that people's attention span is about 10 min per video so I'd rather keep it concise before people click away. No worries though, there's going to be some more long form videos, especially the one about Immortan Joe's empire, how it worked, how it evolved etc.
Maybe he made the last one this way because if it is a Myth then the company doesn't need continuity. It can be a playground for any script, just another myth with the road warrior. It can be anything cause anything goes
As you say, everything is a remix of a remix. Nothing creative is ever made in a vacuum-it's influenced, consciously or subconsciously, by everything that preceded it. I'm not OK with writers not being properly credited/compensated. That said, what Miller & Co DID with the material is not just derivative, it's highly creative. George Lucas wove myth into Star Wars. The Matrix is full of myth and symbolism. Neither of those movies was original; both began as derivatives of other material. But it's what you DO with the stories, ideas, and characters that matters. Fury Road is a heightened retelling of stories that deserves to exist on its own merits. It is already inspiring a new army of creators.
Great vid and great work! 🙂 So now... how or what’s the deal with “Happy Feet” and how does it fit in with Millers work. From road cops to penguins. Is it maybe the environmental issues theme that is the common denominator. Please do a vid on that! BR /Mack
Great video, couldn’t agree more with your analysis of Fury Road as a “myth”. However, I was hoping you’d have spent a bit more time on Beyond Thunderdome...especially on the death of Byron Kennedy during pre-production. It’s rumoured this had a massive impact on Miller, and led to the George Ogilvie co-directing the film with him. Beyond Thunderdome is an odd movie...it doesn’t feel like any of the other films in the series. The raw, guerrilla feel of the first 2 is missing, and it doesn’t have the imaginative reach of the 4th. Instead, it feels like a slick Hollywood interpretation of what a Mad Max film is supposed to be. Tina Turner’s casting (and her songs), the Maurice Jarre score (complete with oh-so 80s saxophone), and the wild pacing shift seem so out of place, and I’ve always attributed these to Ogilvie’s influence (and WB studio notes). It’s my least favourite MM film, so I’m hoping you’ll do a dedicated video analysis of this one.
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Miller has stated that Ogilvey was the director of Beyond Thunderdome. Miller was in no condition to direct, but the studio insisted that he show up to set for the minimum number of days required to be given a co-director credit. Miller has said he was pretty useless on set, though, as he was grieving.
I'm glad that you liked the video! I wish I'd done more on MMBT but here's the thing: A lot of stuff surrounding that movie is hush hush. People don't want to come forward with information and put their name on it. There was a lot going on back when they were making this movie, crazy stories and accusations were thrown around from Mel's raging alcoholism on set to bar fights and everything in between and people don't want to burn bridges putting their names on those stories I suppose which is understandable. On the other hand I could just come out and say what was going on and keep my sources anonymous but I might as well be accused of making stuff up and I don't want that to happen because I'm trying to provide Mad Max content that is backed with legitimate sources. Maybe after a while I'll do an in depth look into Beyond Thunderdome when the coast is clear to do so. As far as Byron's influence on Beyond Thunderdome - the Mad Max series lost a lot with his passing. He was the gearhead of this series, so his absence mainly had an impact on how the vehicles looked. Terry Hayes hated the way cars looked in Mad Max 2 believe it or not and I'm sure he's responsible for the idea of MMBT cars looking like insects. Miller is not a car guy believe it or not, in one interview he said if people knew what he drives they'd laugh (Prius). So he needed a lot of guidance in the car department when developing Fury Road and thankfully Peter Pound and Colin Gibson steered him in the right direction (no pun intended). Brendan McCarthy didn't seem to grasp the true nature of automotive aspect of the Mad Max series either, if he had his way with his designs we'd see Fury Road with cars looking like 1930's armored tank cars with a lot of random bits and pieces welded to them.
Mad Max Bible interesting....I don’t think I’d heard of the more salacious reports from the set before. I was only 15 years old when MMBT was released, so my news sources consisted entirely of articles in Starlog magazine. It sounds like you’ve got the makings of an excellent video, though I understand your reluctance in producing one.
So the Aboriginal people had already heard the story of Thunderdome but they didnt tell the crew how shitty it was? Maybe some sorta vendetta against the white man... XD
I had a very similar thought. Of course they didn't say they knew the future of the movie, just that they knew the story. Still it would have been nice of them to mention they know the story and it is their least popular story that they all try to forget about.
wow...I didn't know about this aboriginal man scene and that it was in the storyboard. It makes sense and it would add a fascinating layer to the film, much better than the kid (The kid doesn't bother me though). Never thought Fury Road could get any better but there it is.
Well even if a lot of the ideas were ripped off, they did a damn good job because I’ve never heard about these other movies Edit: besides lawrence of arabia
Yeah a lot of the movies are rip offs of other stuff, but I think much of the appeal is the core story of the world ending. Like on one hand it's terrifying and your worst nightmare, the end of civilization, technology, merciless gangs roaming about. But on the flip side there's no responsibility as we used to know it, and a new beginning for everyone to write themselves into legends of the wasteland.
Admits there are dozens of different cultures in many different parts of the world with the same story, yet George is copying them? erm who is he copying? The Australian aboriginals, the Incas, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Italians? What one? they all had the same idea; But all with a slightly different way of telling it. I'd never heard of the story until this video. Geez - I mean it fits in perfectly with what was said in the first video that there is a running theme or over riding arch in any story throughout history.
You glossed over Beyond Thunderdome. There's so much you could have explored. The children could be alluding to Peter Pan and The Lost Boys. And as for the Sisters, having more than one makes sense if you plan to re-populate. It ensures that there is genetic diversity. Interbreeding causes even more genetic mutation.
I suggest you check the link to the blog in the description. There's so many similarities between Lawrence of Arabia and Beyond Thunderdome the video would've extended to 1 hour easily if I wanted to point all of them out.
So many stories/movies are just rewrites of the stories of old. In fact, I would say about 60-70% are from the Bible alone. In the end, who cares just as long as people like it and it makes money. 👍🏻
Fury Road truly sucked. Tom Hardy is NOT Max. Max is not even the protagonist of the film. Special effects overwhelmed the story. Mad Max will always just be a trilogy.
Mad max fury road isn't a movie i would say out right sucked but it's a movie in really split there some things about a really like in it like the action. But there alot of things i don't like in it. Like max being a side character. The wifes having almost no delevolpment. Things not making sense like max's visions and immortan joe being an idiot.
I have had this experience a number of times when investigating television shows and movies - at first the story seems simple, then you see there are layers, then you see where the inspiration comes from, then you see the homages and imitation of other work, then you see how derivative many aspects of the work are, and then you discover the outright plagiarism in evidence and finally you hear about the suppressed lawsuits. I honestly think much of Hollywood (and I include commercial film productions around the world) is raw hucksterism at this point aided by high prices lawyers. Not a new observation, I know, but hugely disappointing each time I encounter it with a work I thought escaped this cycle.
It is what it is but it's a fascinating story nonetheless, find all this stuff out didn't ruin the Mad Max franchise at all to me, it's just more layers to uncover. I didn't really touch upon that much on who could be really responsible for straight up ripping off but I have a good lead from a few sources that let's say... don't really have fond memories of working with Terry Hayes. More than that, in earlier versions of Beyond Thunderdome scripts didn't even hide how much they ripped Riddley Walker off. I'm talking the SAME character names in both the script and the book, that's just plain robbery.
It's all a mixed bag really. Some strait up copy others some get inspired or pay a respectful nod to one another. For example in this exact case Quentin Tarantino gets lots of hate how he is a copy-paster and mostly shit talker in movies even tho reality is he is a movie addict and out right say he loves movies, he grew up on them and uses lots of scenes or camera angles as a respectful nod to his favorites. Movies made for movie buffs. Outright says hey this is from there and then and I will use it or used it etc. When he works with someone he also hosts movie days and together watch something and after watching he gladly talks about the movies. He pays respect and that is the difference. Others can happen that they ripoff some book or strait up steal something from someone who they know he wont have the backing or funds to sue them. Even tho beating the shit out of you or even murdering you for it one day isn't too much out of question either. So most of the actual parasitic copy-pasters probably don't sleep well at night or at all knowing they fucked up. So there are always two sides of the story and with it I carefully choose what movie I buy and watch where.
There are no original stories, it's impossible not to be influenced by history, even if you don't realise you are being influenced. Nearly every story uses "The Heroes Journey" as a guide and no one cops flack for that. The Riddley Walker and Beyond Thunderdome similarities I feel deserved some compensation but taking a myth and using that as a basis is fine. Inspiration has to come from somewhere, just give credit where it's due. It's a lot harder to hide plagiarism these days, you will get found out.
The oil company in the Mad Max films is called Seven Sisters Petroleum. You're also leaving out how Thunder Dome and Fury Road connect to Beowulf.Thunder Dome is young Beowulf and Fury Road is old Beowulf and Max was to die in Fury Road just like Beowulf. Master Blaster is Grendel. Immortan Joe is the dragon. You've also got many other call outs to Norse myth in both films as well.
I left out a lot of things from the video because it would make the video too long, for example there's stuff lifted from Stagecoach etc. Yeah the 7 Sisters Petroleum was there as well but to my knowledge it really didn't have much to do with the Pleiades myth at all. George Miller was only starting with mythology around 1980.
@ AFAIK, Max wasn't supposed to be killed in any early version of Fury Road but I'm curious how the events of Fury Road would play out in the earliest of stages of scriptwriting. There was an idea for Max, the 5 Wives and Furiosa to arrive at 'The Edge of the World' which was essentially reaching the coastline and diving into the dried up ocean bed where a new civilization could begin. This ending was of course ditched and turned into 'let's return to the Citadel' but it was still used for the Mad Max video game where most of the game plays out on a dried up ocean bed. The concept of dried up oceans in the Mad Max universe is interesting in itself with people assuming that oceans just evaporated post Mad Max 2. I don't think that was the case at all. Looking at the behind the scenes miniature set of 'bombed out Sydney' - they purposefully filmed it with the actual ocean in the background. So the waters didn't evaporate completely at all. But that's just super nerdy to get into and it's a topic for another discussion.
@ I saw it either in one of the videos here or on another channel where they talked about Max dying as an ending in one of the concept scripts. I think it was one of the videos dealing with the video game VS. the Fury Road movie. Anywho the Max finding his humanity and settling down is kinda a nice ending if not a little too nice for Max. What I liked was the fan theory that Max in Fury Road was the Feral Kid pretending to be Max because of childhood idol worship. Not only would it fix plot wholes but it could set up a movie with Tom and Mel playing both the old and new Mad Max in the same film. Kind like The Maverick Movie with Mel and James Garner. Just without comedy and with lots of cool cars.
@@MadMaxBible When I first saw the end of Thunderdome I just figured the coastline had changed because of nukes and that caused environmental issues. I just could never buy into the idea of the oceans going away like with Solarbabies or Tank Girl. Being that we're on an ocean planet.
"There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." Bioshock INFINITE. David Lynch's TWIN PEAKS was a show about people in a show... created for our amusement. We also ask these philosophical questions about life and purpose; if this is a dream then who is the dreamer?
The 7 sisters was the name on the oil tanker in Mad Max 2, 7 sisters is also what the major oil companies were called, wrapped up into the ultimate myth the 7 sisters or the Pleiades (Some info from Rob Agar) So as the Max story was told and retold, the gas would run out & have no worth, because people wouldn't use or know what it was used for, so the 7 sisters oil tanker became real 7 women, the importance of oil changed to the importance of continuing healthy life, same story just details re-understood. (Edit: spelling)
BTW, technically, you are discussing hypotheses and not theories. There is a distinction between the two. A theory, you can prove (say mathematically). An hypothesis may or many not become true.
I could do something like that, it's doable, but it would require a lot of detective work and even more guesswork. However, I could give a rough estimate where things happen in those films.
My theory is, George Miller took these other stories and made them better! Seriously though, I enjoy the series as Max is always portrayed as human, he's not some larger than life action hero like Stallone or Schwarzenegger characters.
I forget if he dies, but the mentality slow big fella in #1 that's related to the shotgun wielding grandma, is he also Blaster from Masterblaster? I always wondered that.
Nah, that's a different actor. But the actor playing the mentally challenged guy in #1 shows up in #2 as the guy with the beard strapped to the front of Humungus' car! Max Fairchild was his name.
There is only one thing is disagree here and that is the use of the word "Theorie". You have put a theses foreward and you feeded this with bits and parts of researched facts. In order to become a theorie, its time to let other people try to tear down your thoughs and facts. If your building withstand this test, it will become a theorie, which means, it explaines a subject matter to the best of our abilitys and knowlegd. Thats being said, i find your take on Fury Road very much convincing.
THANK YOU FER BRINGING TO LIGHT A LOT OF WHAT I DID NOT KNOW BOUT MY HEROES KENNEDY MILLER AND WITHOUT THEM MAD MAX WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO LIFE AS IT IS👍😎👍
Just about to sit down and watch them all again . Figured id come and see what progress you had made along the way . Epic work again and again . I have shared your vids with a lot of my friends , and we all praise your continued work . Keep up the awesome break downs etc . I look forward to refreshing myself with your content in another couple of years when i have the need of a good fix of black on black . Kudos to you :D
Absoutly none of my business but,... If this your first script, i recommend the book 'Save the cat.' A very simple starter manual. The better one is Joseph cambells story circle. Much more nuanced and detailed. Like the video states and Stephen Kings whole career proves, Its not the story but how you tell it. The movie 12 Angry Men is a masterwork in storytelling. If this is your first attempt at selling a script the best advice i can give, (I was industry adjacent for a few years) is not to hold yor script as something too important to change. Theres an industry saying. 'Kill your babies.' It means if someone wants to buy your idea and then ruin it, you let them, with a smile and a paycheck. I knew of a few writers who made almost their whole career writing scripts the studio would buy and then throw into a vault. No one ever even looked at them. These studios do this if they have a story in pre production and you independantly come up with the same story. It saves them from being accused of stealing the idea and being sued. Easy way to make a few hundred thousand. (if you think writing is easy) lastly your timeframe is 2 weeks. That is all the time you get to write a two hour movie. If you cant write it in two weeks you're overthinking it. Don't use your best ideas on your first few. Save them for when you get established. I wish you the best of luck. Movie making is a snake pit with some only there to eat the other ones. Don't get discouraged, if you have time try to get a job as a gaffer or PA. You will learn very fast. I'm cheering for you.
Pretty sure Miller knew of the Greek Mythology reference. And don't forget the Furies. Also, I know it's a stretch, but somebody may have borrowed an idea from the Dan Malone post-apocalyptic comic of The Sacred Armour of Antiriad (that came with the video game of the same name). A character in one of the prequel comics mentions "sacred armour". A buzzard in the Thunderdome scene, I think.
That's right, McCarthy referenced the Furies alongside of Harpies in very early stages of Fury Road's development. I didn't mention it in a video because it would've been too much but I'll go out on a limb and say that Miller and McCarthy didn't know how to end Fury Road in a fashion that was similar to the Pleiades myth(s). In the Pleiades myth it's almost always the same outcome - the Seven Sisters launch themselves into the sky, in the Greek version of that myth they are turned into doves by Zeus and then into the Pleiades star cluster with Orion forever chasing them. Very similar to the Aboriginal Dreamtime version I mentioned in the video. For Fury Road, originally the plan was for the War Rig with 5 Wives to dive into the clouds which reveals the ocean bed where they would discover trees and start a new place to live. To me that sounds like a real life analog to going UP into the clouds/sky that was in the Pleiades myth.
The Idea of the Aboriginal man might have still been repurposed in Fury road. In the first few minutes of the film during the escape scene, as Max runs in the tunnels he hallucinates some people: the little girl, but also an aboriginal man. However what he says doesn't make sense with what was first imagined ("You let us die !" is what he says). And the 2015 mad max Game clearly ripped off that idea to make the character of Griffa. A mysterious, all wise, hallucinated by Max character, that does something with its hand and influences Max in an important way. Also, great job! I keep enjoying every single one of your videos over and over. Keep on the good work :)
So, one of the very few talented directors in Hollywood turns out it's just a plagiarizer?... I'm not surprised to be honest. I hate Hollywood and celebrity culture for this exact reason.
Sad thing is , once Hollywood got involved the movies Lost the realism. 1&2 were quite believable, Thunderdome and fury road were entertaining but in no way lived up to the first two. Furiosa? I m not holding my breath, probably the worst of the lot.
Great as ever. A tremendous very much appreciated series devoted to something that a lot of us old boys hold dear. I'm 50 with four sons. Forced Max on all of 'em and they love it. Thank you for your continued work.
I’m 16 and I found this movie on my own how funny is that
In 1997 mate.. Miller was in Sydney working on Babe Pig in the City. I know, I was there. And I recall lots of lunch time talk about Fury Road - well before it became "Fury Road". Most of the initial concepts came down to four people : Miller himself, Peter Pound, Colin Gibson and Mark McKinley. This last name was Colin's go to guy for film car mechanics at the time, much the same as I was for his set electrics. Much of this lunch room banter would live on to inspire Miller as to what was and wasn't possible... and the rest is history. I went on to get my name in lights (literally) two years later with Moulin Rouge, leaving Colin and Mark grinding on for another ten years before they finally got to make their pub talk dream.. Fury Road. Gotta love Aussie film making of that era. Oh and yeah.. the Pleiades myth... you are correct. I heard that one mentioned several times in those early days, particularly in references to aboriginal mythology - never thought anything of it - makes sense now. I guess it was the collective attempt to make the film as Australian as possible... even though half of it was filmed in Namibia..
Is there a way to contact you so we can discuss all of this, other than YT comment section?
@@MadMaxBible look up Zordmaker on farcebook
@@MadMaxBible look up zordmaker or paul matthews on Farcebook
Just imagine, hundred years into the future. Young people come together around a camfire where the older starts telling this myth, this story of a warrior, running from his past into wild adventures. Everyone imagines this person like a traveler, with his horse, and his sword, in the middle of nowhere.
And then the camera swtiches slowly to a black path, known as a road. The last road, and this warrior appears on his black horse, that's actually the Falcon XB screaming it's V8, followed by maniacs, fighters on berserk, completely high on madness.
That's the story of the ROAD WARRIOR
Man one of my favourite series, thanks for making this.
I just want another MM game...
We all do my guy, we all do.
One with no bloody minefields.
The aboriginal man is in thr game. He is the guy that levels u up. I just hope mad max game has the almost witcher like. Unlike being a batman on the ground. More stories in the story i suppose. Unlike the rip off batman version that was repetitive and long fetch quests. But graphically and the vehicle gameplay and conbat was great and base capture was great, if it all ties up a story like witcher.
@@Cocubin The level up bloke doesn't sound Aboriginal to me, Aborigines have very distinct accents.
@@nickfatsis9607 well yeah. But the description fits.griffa is max from.the future. No need to use their accents.
Speaking of the music in the movies, Ive always thought that the reason the movies resonate as timeless is that George was wise enough to know never to use current music as an ingredient. Can you imagine the chase scene in Road Warrior with the BeeGees 'Stayin, alive?' So many wannabe movies make this mistake and it immediatly dates the movie.
In the road warrior I always thought the only thing that really took me out was the crimped hair on the main heroine. That fad only lasted a few months. A girl I had a crush on in highschool crimped her hair so maybe its more me than the movie. My heart breaks a little too much everytime she dies...
...Anyways, orchestral music adds to the tension and really makes the action.
I absolutely agree. That's why Road Warrior's soundtrack is timeless, there's not a shred of anything that would date it. Couldn't say that about MMBT's soundtrack and Fury Road's OST isn't as defined as RW's, a lot of drums, score not really that custom tailored for each scene in my opinion.
I love all 3 soundtrack from Mad Max,
in 1981 no one used pop music in movies unless they were actually composed for the movie, like the case of Beegees staying alive for Saturday Night fever, today EVERYONE uses pop music, current and classic songs, for movies of every genre, it has become anoying, but now most modern audiences discover classic songs from superhero movies, I was listening to Cat Stevens Father and son and every comment was about a new Marvel movie that had this classic song
Cryptomnesia - when a forgotten memory returns without its being recognized as such by the subject, who believes it is something new and original.
so excited for this 😍
Riddley Walker is one of my favorite books. Maybe that's why I love Mad Max so much.
So Thunderdome is a mix of Riddley Walker and Lawrence of Arabia with Mad Max skin
Riddley Walker was set in a future England. The language of the children in Mad Max 3 is recognisable English.
I thought that for Mad Max BT Miller wanted to do a new version of Lord of the Flies and when it did not come through, he used this idea for the next Mad Max. This is why this movie felt like two movies into one. I also thought Miller always wanted to only do two Mad Max movies. See IMDB "The film was originally not a "Mad Max" film, but a post-apocalyptic "Lord of the Flies" film about a tribe of children who are found by an adult. It became the third Mad Max film when George Miller was suggested that Max is the man who finds the children.""
loved the shot for shot analysis in this series
Mad Max 2015 video game Griffa is a character that appears in Mad Max a strange and mysterious person filled with wisdom and understanding of the world both he and his fellow survivors inhabit says look behind you at dune after dune of drifting half-forgotten terrors You flee them these past phantoms and the madness that crawls inside Griffa can help you venture down to where you daren't go yourself and lay bare your true promise Awesome video bro thumbs-up & keep-em coming ah Aussie Aussie oi oi
As always, high quality content! Thanks a lot, can't wait for the next video!
Hope you will be around and upload a little bit more often!
Excellent upload!
I started watching the mid 90's Aussie teen soap 'Heartbreak High' at the start of lockdown, thought I recognised MMFR writer Nico Lathouris from somewhere. He plays the dad George Poullos. Weird how things are conected.
Lucky one. I've trying to get an polish version of first season for about... ten years? Looks like tapes were lost or sth. You forced me to check again and looks like it's totally unobtainable right now :( Looks like I've got to get an box set if its floating around Ebays etc :(
@@SuperMatiz I'm in the UK and it's streaming on Amazon Prime. If you're a Prime subscriber already, one of them VPNs might help you out.
As much as I was impressed with Tom Hardy's performance I can't help thinking that Mel would have been a far better fit in the role had the stars aligned. I'd felt that prior to Fury Road going into production - and your reveal only confirms that. It's just too bad that Mel was off the rails back then.
Your video has given me cause the look at George Miller in a very different light.
The thing about Fury Road being myth also ties into why Miller refuses to be pinned down on WHEN it takes place in the Mad Max chronology. It's like trying to tie down in which year Pecos Bill dug the Rio Grande.
I still have to see Fury Road. Thanks for sharing this.
Mad Max 1 was for his fan base back home in QLD, 2&3 was for his demolition derby fan base, and 4 was for his conscious. That iceberg grounded itself in my life, before Mad Max 1 even had Copywrite status.
This in depth mad max video is amazing.
What I like about the Mad Max movies is they're told from different points of view, the stories are always different and not one is entirely correct
jesus...marvelous work dude. Hats off for your effort. Quality content.
You literally hit the shiny nail on the fucking chrome head with this entire synopsis
Fury Road is supposed to be a final movie, but we're getting another sequel called "The Wasteland" in the next 2020's.....
I believe thats going to be prequeal. Which will hopefully explain why max is crazy at the beginning of fury road, but before that Miller is making a furiosa prequeal. Which i think will be fine but i kind of want a mad max. About max, as he felt like more of a side character in fury road.
The thing about coincidental or not so coincidental in the works of art is that it happens all the time. And the most important thing is - how good is the end result of that stealing or borrowing. Mad Maxes are perfectly executed. They have the artistic and the engineering appeal of the engines and overall design, the composition is perfect and so is the editing. There's humor, brutality, and humanity in it. And it doesn't sacrifice the quality of the movie to push some idea or agenda. These things turned those movies into classic.
The ancient man really reminded me of Griffa from the 2015 video game, do you think there's maybe a connection there? Or did the game developers just take the ancient man and "rebranded" him?
Griffa seems to know a ton about max and his mind, even though Max has never met him, and Griffa "taps into his mind" (or however you'd phrase this) and gives him abilities.
And throughout the entire game, Griffa tells Max that he's just running from his past, unable to see the future, or something along those lines.
They very well might have, yeah. They took a bunch of stuff from Fury Road's early production to make the game, I wouldn't be surprised if Griffa was at least inspired by the Ancient Aboriginal man.
@@MadMaxBible I remember at the beginning of Fury Road when Max is trying to escape the War Boys and he sees hallucinations of the people he couldn't save, one of them is an old Aboriginal man. After watching this video where you described the deleted scene from an earlier script, I wondered if maybe that Aboriginal man was a leftover from a previous draft?
@@chancesettlemire4358 Most likely, yes. He also makes an appearance at the end of the film, he's behind Furiosa on the elevator.
@@MadMaxBible Really? I never noticed that.
@@MadMaxBible So I just looked at the scene you mentioned and saw the guy, but I don' think that's the same person. The guy in Max's hallucinations was much older, had greying/white hair, and a slightly longer beard. The guy behind Furiosa also has what looks like dreadlocks or some similar hair style.
If you need proof, here are two videos I linked below.
FR Ending ruclips.net/video/rA0jO_FuNag/видео.html
FR Opening (You can find the guy around 3:25)
ruclips.net/video/oy_LFGCUXRI/видео.html
Turns out there are a few hundred myths we keep telling. I find this fascinating !
Thank you, your content is awesome
You nailed it. Great work, man.
Finally the 2nd part
Thanks mate 👍
I forgot if the mad max game was actually the old script they made into a game but coincidentally the movie was going to release and they are not a movie tie up.
Great 2 parter.
Very interesting facts and theories. Not saying that all is facts but it leaves a little bad taste in my mouth when Miller actively goes out and says that he didn’t take inspiration from specific stories when it’s obvious.
Just saw a YT interview at Cartoonist Kayfabe with Brendan McCarthy, where he goes into how he got involved with Fury Road. He adds more details on his movie pitch to Miller, who then hired him to co-write and design it. McCarthy's a comic book artist who did a comic derived from Road Warrior called Freakwave - his stuff is pretty wild.
Wow did you make those George Miller crossing the street and plane flight animations? They are really good (just like the rest of your videos)
No no no, those are animations from a documentary I found but I animated everything else for what its worth :) My software is really basic, doing the best I can!
Well you're doing great! Hope to see more of your videos in the future
@@MadMaxBible Hey I was rewatching your videos and I noticed that the "Unused & Repurposed Ideas in Mad Max" video got tagged as made for kids, which means it doesn't have comments and can't be watched in the miniplayer on mobile devices among others. I don't think that's your intention so I think you should check that.
@@broston_ I didn't notice that, thanks! I'll fix it asap.
To be honest, I don't give rat's ass if the story of Fury Road was a rip-off or not. It's the greatest action movie of all times. A perfect Heavy Metal style movie. I really hope the two prequels will be as good as this one.
Once George Miller retires or is unable to continue...Brendan McCarthy most definitely has to continue the legacy and lore.
7 Sisters is the name of the oil company on the side of the tanker in Mad Max 2
Supposedly there’s another film in the making, Mad Max, The Wasteland.
I've seen most of original motorcycles in the first film, was surprised how dated they looked.
When max tries to escape at the beggining a tribe men appears in the visions, I think... at fury road
As Always BRAVO Sir. Another Excellent Installment. I'd Watch A Longer Video On This Subject.
Thank You.
Thank you! I planned on making this thing longer but YT says that people's attention span is about 10 min per video so I'd rather keep it concise before people click away. No worries though, there's going to be some more long form videos, especially the one about Immortan Joe's empire, how it worked, how it evolved etc.
Maybe he made the last one this way because if it is a Myth then the company doesn't need continuity. It can be a playground for any script, just another myth with the road warrior. It can be anything cause anything goes
As you say, everything is a remix of a remix. Nothing creative is ever made in a vacuum-it's influenced, consciously or subconsciously, by everything that preceded it. I'm not OK with writers not being properly credited/compensated. That said, what Miller & Co DID with the material is not just derivative, it's highly creative. George Lucas wove myth into Star Wars. The Matrix is full of myth and symbolism. Neither of those movies was original; both began as derivatives of other material. But it's what you DO with the stories, ideas, and characters that matters. Fury Road is a heightened retelling of stories that deserves to exist on its own merits. It is already inspiring a new army of creators.
Great vid and great work! 🙂 So now... how or what’s the deal with “Happy Feet” and how does it fit in with Millers work. From road cops to penguins. Is it maybe the environmental issues theme that is the common denominator. Please do a vid on that! BR /Mack
Happy feet is actually a prequel to the first Mad Max movie.
Crazy that he's such a plagerizer, but one thing for sure is that action on fury road is first class epic!
Where can I look at the original script from 2002 online?
i like your videos a lot, great work¡ =)
You should break down Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
Fury Road was based on Orlando Furioso and the 1943 Alan Ladd movie China. How did you miss that sir?
Great video, couldn’t agree more with your analysis of Fury Road as a “myth”.
However, I was hoping you’d have spent a bit more time on Beyond Thunderdome...especially on the death of Byron Kennedy during pre-production. It’s rumoured this had a massive impact on Miller, and led to the George Ogilvie co-directing the film with him.
Beyond Thunderdome is an odd movie...it doesn’t feel like any of the other films in the series. The raw, guerrilla feel of the first 2 is missing, and it doesn’t have the imaginative reach of the 4th. Instead, it feels like a slick Hollywood interpretation of what a Mad Max film is supposed to be. Tina Turner’s casting (and her songs), the Maurice Jarre score (complete with oh-so 80s saxophone), and the wild pacing shift seem so out of place, and I’ve always attributed these to Ogilvie’s influence (and WB studio notes).
It’s my least favourite MM film, so I’m hoping you’ll do a dedicated video analysis of this one.
Miller has stated that Ogilvey was the director of Beyond Thunderdome. Miller was in no condition to direct, but the studio insisted that he show up to set for the minimum number of days required to be given a co-director credit. Miller has said he was pretty useless on set, though, as he was grieving.
I'm glad that you liked the video! I wish I'd done more on MMBT but here's the thing:
A lot of stuff surrounding that movie is hush hush. People don't want to come forward with information and put their name on it. There was a lot going on back when they were making this movie, crazy stories and accusations were thrown around from Mel's raging alcoholism on set to bar fights and everything in between and people don't want to burn bridges putting their names on those stories I suppose which is understandable. On the other hand I could just come out and say what was going on and keep my sources anonymous but I might as well be accused of making stuff up and I don't want that to happen because I'm trying to provide Mad Max content that is backed with legitimate sources.
Maybe after a while I'll do an in depth look into Beyond Thunderdome when the coast is clear to do so.
As far as Byron's influence on Beyond Thunderdome - the Mad Max series lost a lot with his passing. He was the gearhead of this series, so his absence mainly had an impact on how the vehicles looked. Terry Hayes hated the way cars looked in Mad Max 2 believe it or not and I'm sure he's responsible for the idea of MMBT cars looking like insects. Miller is not a car guy believe it or not, in one interview he said if people knew what he drives they'd laugh (Prius). So he needed a lot of guidance in the car department when developing Fury Road and thankfully Peter Pound and Colin Gibson steered him in the right direction (no pun intended). Brendan McCarthy didn't seem to grasp the true nature of automotive aspect of the Mad Max series either, if he had his way with his designs we'd see Fury Road with cars looking like 1930's armored tank cars with a lot of random bits and pieces welded to them.
Mad Max Bible interesting....I don’t think I’d heard of the more salacious reports from the set before. I was only 15 years old when MMBT was released, so my news sources consisted entirely of articles in Starlog magazine.
It sounds like you’ve got the makings of an excellent video, though I understand your reluctance in producing one.
Could it be that Miller used the name "Walker" in Thunderdome directly taken from Riddley Walker?
It absolutely was taken from Riddley Walker. There were more names from the book that were in the original script for the film but they removed it.
The aborinigal man is the guy that levels u up in the mad max ps4 game.
So the Aboriginal people had already heard the story of Thunderdome but they didnt tell the crew how shitty it was? Maybe some sorta vendetta against the white man... XD
I had a very similar thought. Of course they didn't say they knew the future of the movie, just that they knew the story. Still it would have been nice of them to mention they know the story and it is their least popular story that they all try to forget about.
wow...I didn't know about this aboriginal man scene and that it was in the storyboard. It makes sense and it would add a fascinating layer to the film, much better than the kid (The kid doesn't bother me though). Never thought Fury Road could get any better but there it is.
It was replaced with 'one tree' from their dreaming.
Well even if a lot of the ideas were ripped off, they did a damn good job because I’ve never heard about these other movies
Edit: besides lawrence of arabia
Would love to see all the storyboarding that’s shown in this video, where can it be found?
Yeah a lot of the movies are rip offs of other stuff, but I think much of the appeal is the core story of the world ending. Like on one hand it's terrifying and your worst nightmare, the end of civilization, technology, merciless gangs roaming about. But on the flip side there's no responsibility as we used to know it, and a new beginning for everyone to write themselves into legends of the wasteland.
Admits there are dozens of different cultures in many different parts of the world with the same story, yet George is copying them? erm who is he copying? The Australian aboriginals, the Incas, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Italians? What one? they all had the same idea; But all with a slightly different way of telling it. I'd never heard of the story until this video. Geez - I mean it fits in perfectly with what was said in the first video that there is a running theme or over riding arch in any story throughout history.
You glossed over Beyond Thunderdome. There's so much you could have explored. The children could be alluding to Peter Pan and The Lost Boys. And as for the Sisters, having more than one makes sense if you plan to re-populate. It ensures that there is genetic diversity. Interbreeding causes even more genetic mutation.
I suggest you check the link to the blog in the description. There's so many similarities between Lawrence of Arabia and Beyond Thunderdome the video would've extended to 1 hour easily if I wanted to point all of them out.
The aboriginal man appears in the game as Griffa.
A version of him, yes.
There is an aboriginal man in Max's visions at the beginning of fury road tho dude
Yeah and it's the same guy thats on the elevator at the end of the film but he doesn't really do anything for the story
@@MadMaxBible I never noticed it was the same dude on the elevator near the end
Mad Max Fury Road will not be the last Mad Max made , wait and see 😉
#7SistersPetroleum
I guess I'll have to re-watch Fury Road. I was quite disappointed when I saw it :/
There nothing really original in a sense, there always be a better wheel sooner or later.
So many stories/movies are just rewrites of the stories of old. In fact, I would say about 60-70% are from the Bible alone.
In the end, who cares just as long as people like it and it makes money. 👍🏻
Fury Road truly sucked. Tom Hardy is NOT Max. Max is not even the protagonist of the film. Special effects overwhelmed the story. Mad Max will always just be a trilogy.
Mad max fury road isn't a movie i would say out right sucked but it's a movie in really split there some things about a really like in it like the action. But there alot of things i don't like in it. Like max being a side character. The wifes having almost no delevolpment. Things not making sense like max's visions and immortan joe being an idiot.
ALL of Quentin Tarantino's movies are blatant rip offs from other movies.
I have had this experience a number of times when investigating television shows and movies - at first the story seems simple, then you see there are layers, then you see where the inspiration comes from, then you see the homages and imitation of other work, then you see how derivative many aspects of the work are, and then you discover the outright plagiarism in evidence and finally you hear about the suppressed lawsuits. I honestly think much of Hollywood (and I include commercial film productions around the world) is raw hucksterism at this point aided by high prices lawyers. Not a new observation, I know, but hugely disappointing each time I encounter it with a work I thought escaped this cycle.
It is what it is but it's a fascinating story nonetheless, find all this stuff out didn't ruin the Mad Max franchise at all to me, it's just more layers to uncover. I didn't really touch upon that much on who could be really responsible for straight up ripping off but I have a good lead from a few sources that let's say... don't really have fond memories of working with Terry Hayes. More than that, in earlier versions of Beyond Thunderdome scripts didn't even hide how much they ripped Riddley Walker off. I'm talking the SAME character names in both the script and the book, that's just plain robbery.
It's all a mixed bag really. Some strait up copy others some get inspired or pay a respectful nod to one another. For example in this exact case Quentin Tarantino gets lots of hate how he is a copy-paster and mostly shit talker in movies even tho reality is he is a movie addict and out right say he loves movies, he grew up on them and uses lots of scenes or camera angles as a respectful nod to his favorites. Movies made for movie buffs. Outright says hey this is from there and then and I will use it or used it etc. When he works with someone he also hosts movie days and together watch something and after watching he gladly talks about the movies. He pays respect and that is the difference. Others can happen that they ripoff some book or strait up steal something from someone who they know he wont have the backing or funds to sue them. Even tho beating the shit out of you or even murdering you for it one day isn't too much out of question either. So most of the actual parasitic copy-pasters probably don't sleep well at night or at all knowing they fucked up. So there are always two sides of the story and with it I carefully choose what movie I buy and watch where.
There are no original stories, it's impossible not to be influenced by history, even if you don't realise you are being influenced. Nearly every story uses "The Heroes Journey" as a guide and no one cops flack for that. The Riddley Walker and Beyond Thunderdome similarities I feel deserved some compensation but taking a myth and using that as a basis is fine. Inspiration has to come from somewhere, just give credit where it's due. It's a lot harder to hide plagiarism these days, you will get found out.
This was great... SO impressed with your work. Thank you.
The oil company in the Mad Max films is called Seven Sisters Petroleum.
You're also leaving out how Thunder Dome and Fury Road connect to Beowulf.Thunder Dome is young Beowulf and Fury Road is old Beowulf and Max was to die in Fury Road just like Beowulf.
Master Blaster is Grendel. Immortan Joe is the dragon. You've also got many other call outs to Norse myth in both films as well.
I left out a lot of things from the video because it would make the video too long, for example there's stuff lifted from Stagecoach etc. Yeah the 7 Sisters Petroleum was there as well but to my knowledge it really didn't have much to do with the Pleiades myth at all. George Miller was only starting with mythology around 1980.
@@MadMaxBible I see no issue no issue with a 10 hour documentary of Mad Max films. Hint... Hint...😉
Jokes aside. I love this channel. Great stuff man.
@ AFAIK, Max wasn't supposed to be killed in any early version of Fury Road but I'm curious how the events of Fury Road would play out in the earliest of stages of scriptwriting. There was an idea for Max, the 5 Wives and Furiosa to arrive at 'The Edge of the World' which was essentially reaching the coastline and diving into the dried up ocean bed where a new civilization could begin. This ending was of course ditched and turned into 'let's return to the Citadel' but it was still used for the Mad Max video game where most of the game plays out on a dried up ocean bed. The concept of dried up oceans in the Mad Max universe is interesting in itself with people assuming that oceans just evaporated post Mad Max 2. I don't think that was the case at all. Looking at the behind the scenes miniature set of 'bombed out Sydney' - they purposefully filmed it with the actual ocean in the background. So the waters didn't evaporate completely at all. But that's just super nerdy to get into and it's a topic for another discussion.
@ I saw it either in one of the videos here or on another channel where they talked about Max dying as an ending in one of the concept scripts. I think it was one of the videos dealing with the video game VS. the Fury Road movie.
Anywho the Max finding his humanity and settling down is kinda a nice ending if not a little too nice for Max.
What I liked was the fan theory that Max in Fury Road was the Feral Kid pretending to be Max because of childhood idol worship. Not only would it fix plot wholes but it could set up a movie with Tom and Mel playing both the old and new Mad Max in the same film. Kind like The Maverick Movie with Mel and James Garner. Just without comedy and with lots of cool cars.
@@MadMaxBible When I first saw the end of Thunderdome I just figured the coastline had changed because of nukes and that caused environmental issues.
I just could never buy into the idea of the oceans going away like with Solarbabies or Tank Girl. Being that we're on an ocean planet.
"There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." Bioshock INFINITE.
David Lynch's TWIN PEAKS was a show about people in a show... created for our amusement. We also ask these philosophical questions about life and purpose; if this is a dream then who is the dreamer?
The 7 sisters was the name on the oil tanker in Mad Max 2, 7 sisters is also what the major oil companies were called, wrapped up into the ultimate myth the 7 sisters or the Pleiades
(Some info from Rob Agar)
So as the Max story was told and retold, the gas would run out & have no worth, because people wouldn't use or know what it was used for, so the 7 sisters oil tanker became real 7 women, the importance of oil changed to the importance of continuing healthy life, same story just details re-understood.
(Edit: spelling)
BTW, technically, you are discussing hypotheses and not theories. There is a distinction between the two. A theory, you can prove (say mathematically). An hypothesis may or many not become true.
Have you ever thought of maybe making a theory of where most precisely the stories of each movie take place, like some sort of wasteland map.
I could do something like that, it's doable, but it would require a lot of detective work and even more guesswork. However, I could give a rough estimate where things happen in those films.
Love it. Thanks for another spectacular video!
*LOVE IT*
DUDE, youre amazing!!!
The Ancient Man is George.
My theory is, George Miller took these other stories and made them better! Seriously though, I enjoy the series as Max is always portrayed as human, he's not some larger than life action hero like Stallone or Schwarzenegger characters.
I forget if he dies, but the mentality slow big fella in #1 that's related to the shotgun wielding grandma, is he also Blaster from Masterblaster? I always wondered that.
Nah, that's a different actor. But the actor playing the mentally challenged guy in #1 shows up in #2 as the guy with the beard strapped to the front of Humungus' car! Max Fairchild was his name.
I enjoyed these videos a lot, great work man!
Babe is also a great film. Thanks for these videos.
There is only one thing is disagree here and that is the use of the word "Theorie".
You have put a theses foreward and you feeded this with bits and parts of researched facts.
In order to become a theorie, its time to let other people try to tear down your thoughs and facts.
If your building withstand this test, it will become a theorie, which means, it explaines a subject matter to the best of our abilitys and knowlegd.
Thats being said, i find your take on Fury Road very much convincing.
THANK YOU FER BRINGING TO LIGHT A LOT OF WHAT I DID NOT KNOW BOUT MY HEROES KENNEDY MILLER AND WITHOUT THEM MAD MAX WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO LIFE AS IT IS👍😎👍
Great videos, keep them coming !
Thats wild shit man. Love it.
Well done mate 👍🏼
Thank you! I cannot wait to watch this and for your next video. Keep up the great work!
Just about to sit down and watch them all again . Figured id come and see what progress you had made along the way . Epic work again and again . I have shared your vids with a lot of my friends , and we all praise your continued work . Keep up the awesome break downs etc . I look forward to refreshing myself with your content in another couple of years when i have the need of a good fix of black on black . Kudos to you :D
Love it as a film director and writer gives me a new angle to attack my feature film script.
Absoutly none of my business but,... If this your first script, i recommend the book 'Save the cat.' A very simple starter manual. The better one is Joseph cambells story circle. Much more nuanced and detailed. Like the video states and Stephen Kings whole career proves, Its not the story but how you tell it. The movie 12 Angry Men is a masterwork in storytelling. If this is your first attempt at selling a script the best advice i can give, (I was industry adjacent for a few years) is not to hold yor script as something too important to change. Theres an industry saying. 'Kill your babies.' It means if someone wants to buy your idea and then ruin it, you let them, with a smile and a paycheck. I knew of a few writers who made almost their whole career writing scripts the studio would buy and then throw into a vault. No one ever even looked at them. These studios do this if they have a story in pre production and you independantly come up with the same story. It saves them from being accused of stealing the idea and being sued. Easy way to make a few hundred thousand. (if you think writing is easy) lastly your timeframe is 2 weeks. That is all the time you get to write a two hour movie. If you cant write it in two weeks you're overthinking it. Don't use your best ideas on your first few. Save them for when you get established. I wish you the best of luck. Movie making is a snake pit with some only there to eat the other ones. Don't get discouraged, if you have time try to get a job as a gaffer or PA. You will learn very fast. I'm cheering for you.
Pretty sure Miller knew of the Greek Mythology reference. And don't forget the Furies. Also, I know it's a stretch, but somebody may have borrowed an idea from the Dan Malone post-apocalyptic comic of The Sacred Armour of Antiriad (that came with the video game of the same name). A character in one of the prequel comics mentions "sacred armour". A buzzard in the Thunderdome scene, I think.
That's right, McCarthy referenced the Furies alongside of Harpies in very early stages of Fury Road's development. I didn't mention it in a video because it would've been too much but I'll go out on a limb and say that Miller and McCarthy didn't know how to end Fury Road in a fashion that was similar to the Pleiades myth(s). In the Pleiades myth it's almost always the same outcome - the Seven Sisters launch themselves into the sky, in the Greek version of that myth they are turned into doves by Zeus and then into the Pleiades star cluster with Orion forever chasing them. Very similar to the Aboriginal Dreamtime version I mentioned in the video. For Fury Road, originally the plan was for the War Rig with 5 Wives to dive into the clouds which reveals the ocean bed where they would discover trees and start a new place to live. To me that sounds like a real life analog to going UP into the clouds/sky that was in the Pleiades myth.
@@MadMaxBible Fantastic stuff.
Gem of a video.thank u so much.
The Idea of the Aboriginal man might have still been repurposed in Fury road. In the first few minutes of the film during the escape scene, as Max runs in the tunnels he hallucinates some people: the little girl, but also an aboriginal man. However what he says doesn't make sense with what was first imagined ("You let us die !" is what he says).
And the 2015 mad max Game clearly ripped off that idea to make the character of Griffa. A mysterious, all wise, hallucinated by Max character, that does something with its hand and influences Max in an important way.
Also, great job! I keep enjoying every single one of your videos over and over. Keep on the good work :)
kudos man, good work
Amazing vid as always
The novel pinching reminds me of how much Wachowskis pinched from Grant Morrisons "Invisibles"
Great work man
So, one of the very few talented directors in Hollywood turns out it's just a plagiarizer?... I'm not surprised to be honest. I hate Hollywood and celebrity culture for this exact reason.
Sad thing is , once Hollywood got involved the movies Lost the realism.
1&2 were quite believable, Thunderdome and fury road were entertaining but in no way lived up to the first two.
Furiosa? I m not holding my breath, probably the worst of the lot.