Im Steve from Play On Tabletop... and every time you talk about Steve, directly into the camera, I definitely feel like it's a direct hit, hahahaha. Probably retaliation from when Nick challenged you to that Manta thing.
If you guys ever feel like taking a trip to our studio in Canada to teach me how to paint better than the other guys on the team... I mean... that would be great, lol.
This is the PERFECT tutorial format! Lots of us often paint a mini to completion, but don't know how to give it that extra touch to take it up a notch. This is excellent! Please do many more vids like this! Thank you!
You really made my dwarf look fantastic! I repainted that glowing pipe 3-4 times trying to figure out what wasn’t looking right. Now I know ☺️. Great advice! Thank you!
Honestly, I liked your glowing effect a bit more. You did a damn good job on the dwarf! The head looks better afterwards, but your nose was more dwarfy. Keep up the good work!
Your paint job was fine. If you have access to an airbrush what you can try next time if you feel like it is make the surface white. airbrush white around the areas the light will hit, then do the same airbrushing with a bright blue like pylar glaciar or tyran blue After that you hit it with another highlighting of white in the "heat zones" as well as edge highlighting sharp areas that are being affected by the glow. Trust me the results are amazing.
Have you ever thought of giving a pic at Gaming Distance during your reveals, to go along with the close up, to show us what our view would be typically? The close view is nice for fine detail but can make us think that is how the figure should look at gaming distance.
That would be pretty useful for better showcasing which areas are the most important to focus on for making things read well. It can be easy to forget about when you are focused in.
Its good that you are happy with it, but ngl dude, i personnally feel like it looked even better before they touched it, you are already an insane painter my guy :,)
Hope this is a continual series! The advice is great to see and watch and I can apply it to my own painting skills depending on each mini and what can be improved on each one in different ways! Love it!
I feel like with the first model, I see what they were going for. Kind of an object shadows highlight. The part of the head right behind the headdress was in shadow despite being a high point, could have added an outline of the feathers to highlight rather than completely highlight, but that wouldn't have been fast at all. Might have been the same on the torso? Like the big chin causing some shadows on the upper chest. Your additions are definitely an improvement but I think the original artist had some unique ideas I want to try now
I loved this video! So many times I sit and think “it needs something but I don’t know how to take it where I want it to go” more of these please! Y’all are the best! Enjoy your vacation!🤙🏻
This is one of the most helpful videos on mini-painting I've seen. I hope other youtube artists model this sort of thing. I remember asking myself while watching specifically the parts about pushing the contrast "Oh, that's all it is, but look at the difference!" But you don't always see that when you're watching a pro go from start-to-finish. Thanks so much!
Very nice guys. It shows perfectly how what looks like "over the top" when painting it looks just perfectly right when finished. Now, if I only had the guts to push my mini's that 1 step further...
As an Australian I am thankful to have moved to Canada a decade ago for the sole purpose of learning to paint better. I am almost at the level of applying for citizenship, but I have to work on my NMM...
Was about to comment about it. The original one looks more grimdark and the after looks more like "regular" ork. I'm not sayin its bad, bit it feels like it took away some of the character and style.
Something that drastically improved my understanding of painting muscles and skin was how you demonstrated taking the highlight all the way up to the connecting muscle. I Choudhary figure out why my models had a weird muscle appearance, but seeing how you painted the frogs highlights really drove the point on how to make it look more natural. What a small tip, but a huge impact on the results. Thank you for showing that!
I admit I don’t really care if my paint jobs look good or bad as long as that pass that 3+ color rule and don’t look like crap when you’re playing with them on the tabletop that’s good enough for me. With that being said I do appreciate learning new skills that can make my painting better especially if I decide to really go all out on a model
It's a great observation. Some of this was artistic choice, but also the "light source direction" can sometimes benefit from being unrealistic for minis being viewed 360 degrees, like for game pieces. Front-on viewing only, you might make slightly different choices.
@@BloomThat true! But the only reason I was asking and pointing it out was because I was wondering if he actually had a connection with this person?!? Because if could have been what they were going for, but it kinda sounded like he was saying “there was NO reason for a shadow there” to me……………… so I was curious!?! Anything new I can learn I will try to get the most out of it!!!
@@AcoylteKraven82 Ultimately miniature painting moves into set photography skills, in the sense that you don't just want the light to be realistic, but to place the lights in the right places for the miniature to look their best. I can make a lot of terrible pictures that aren't caused by the light being fake (as it's always real, it's a camera!), or the subject being bad, but the light sources being the wrong hue, or placed in locations that don't help the subject look good. A lot of lighting you see in stills, and even in movies, includes plenty of secondary lights that you would never find in real life: See basically every night scene, or anything lit by candlelight. So can I get a light setup that makes the crown create a shadow? Sure! But does it make the subject look better? Probably not
@@jorgemontero6384 Ummmmm, ok……… I can’t tell if you are answering a reply I will leave in the future or if you were trying to reply to someone else’s comment that kinda had something to do with lighting also and something went wrong or your just messing with me?!? Yeah, I get taken a picture of anything is like taking a picture of a mini! But at no point was I talking any studio lighting or lighting to be able to film a movie or show!?! I was talking about the NORMAL lighting when you walk outside and the sun is in your face, where would the shadows fall!?! Like in the case of the model in question…… I’m not asking how the light should fall on it in his studio at his paint desk! I’m asking about the lighting if that creature was REAL AND ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!! But honestly I’m not sure where you were going with that?!? Since you were replying to the 2nd message I left (for the obvious reason! Unless you’re new to RUclips) but were talking a bit more about the original comment, but that was corrected in the 2nd part!!! But I don’t know!?!
Actually.... It might be controversial but I think the before on the frog looked better than the after. Almost like they mislabeled the before and after. Whoever's the artist he's clearly talented.
Just started painting this year and did some blue boys and nids. I was quite happy and was going to post them online for progress and feedback. Turns out there is no point, as an Aussie I know now I will never be good.
MORE CONTRAST!!! My tips on how much is enough highlight: make a lot, a really lot, and just when you think you have made too much and have ruined the mini, put another layer highlights. THAT is the correct amount of highlights. Continue with the mini and thank me later.
great tips overall! always nice to have an external look on your paintjobs to improve and you guys sure know what you're talking about. I do however feel like the ork was kinda disrespected in its own regards, you took that brownish grimdark orc and made it back to a generic one, i think you could've done pretty much the same and still manage to keep the original feeling of this guy cause this ork's owner will either have to repaint this mini or his whole army for it to fit back in
I prefer the after ork. I see people say the original is more "Grimdark", but to me "Grimdark" is not a lack of brighter colors or subdued colors, its more about the overall figure looking like it belongs in a setting that shows wear and tear from active use.
My whole view the last what, 6 years, is better done than perfect. Which has led me to a lot of painted minis, some looking way worse, and some better. But at least they are done and to a better than decent standard most of the time :)
Kind of wish you'd push contrast by working with brightness and shadoes without increasing saturation on the orc. It kind of misses the point when you change the art style completely. Not every mini has to be oversaturated like crazy even though that's the mini painting meta for some reason.
I’d love to see an officially judged competition on these guys and Steve to see who wins. It’s easy to say Australian can’t paint but if and officially recognised competition judges Steve better than these could couldn’t say what they say. Also there’s many different painting styles so no one can really say they are better. Just so people know I’m not from Australia or am I Australian I just would love to see this happen
Very nicely done, like'em so far. Only gripe is the orc one. While I get, that the mini was on the messy side anda bit difficult to read, it was also really gritty / grim dark. The overhaul, while I like it, has a different vibe. I personally would've liked to keep the skin some kind of olive and don't go too much into the saturated greens. The edge highlights on weapons and shoulders definitively helped though.
A video on color theory would be amazing. Where you show thoughts when mixing colors. I dont have a lot of colors and i would love to get some advice for color theory. Maybe a not as extrem version as your 2 color video.
You just gave me an idea. It would be super cool If we sent you minis painted from us, the fans, from different nations and you rated them. For example, the best mini from Switzerland, the best in Sverige, ecc. All this based on your taste, obviusly. Sort of a national painting championship. I would certainly send you something!
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Where are viewers sending you minis?
I paid 2 different painters for one custom kingdom death figure and they never hit what I wanted any help
Im Steve from Play On Tabletop... and every time you talk about Steve, directly into the camera, I definitely feel like it's a direct hit, hahahaha. Probably retaliation from when Nick challenged you to that Manta thing.
I don't know what you've done to deserve it, but i'm sure it was something bad!
I really do need help painting my Space Marines, though, so the comment is legit, haha
@@spacemarinesteve6057 Don't you have enough space marines already? haha
If you guys ever feel like taking a trip to our studio in Canada to teach me how to paint better than the other guys on the team... I mean... that would be great, lol.
I get the same feelings,
We are legion!
This is the PERFECT tutorial format! Lots of us often paint a mini to completion, but don't know how to give it that extra touch to take it up a notch. This is excellent! Please do many more vids like this! Thank you!
You really made my dwarf look fantastic! I repainted that glowing pipe 3-4 times trying to figure out what wasn’t looking right. Now I know ☺️. Great advice! Thank you!
Honestly, I liked your glowing effect a bit more. You did a damn good job on the dwarf!
The head looks better afterwards, but your nose was more dwarfy. Keep up the good work!
@@dariomodler6367Yeah the repaint added too much dark
Your paint job was fine. If you have access to an airbrush what you can try next time if you feel like it is make the surface white. airbrush white around the areas the light will hit, then do the same airbrushing with a bright blue like pylar glaciar or tyran blue After that you hit it with another highlighting of white in the "heat zones" as well as edge highlighting sharp areas that are being affected by the glow. Trust me the results are amazing.
Honestly, that ork looked awesome. It's like a model from a dawn of war game. Dark and gritty, and the details kinda blend together.
Emil and Lukas inspired me to start painting miniatures, and their advice on the channel has really helped me, keep it up guys
TLDR: Push that contrast further
I think you missed half the video lol :P
@@SquidmarMiniatures I mean, there's definitely more, but I feel like that's the primary thing here
I agree. The hard part is how to do that in a pleasing way. Which they showed 🙂
bruh its 20 minutes not 2 hours
Exactly what I thought, I love these guys but that’s all they were doing
Have you ever thought of giving a pic at Gaming Distance during your reveals, to go along with the close up, to show us what our view would be typically? The close view is nice for fine detail but can make us think that is how the figure should look at gaming distance.
That would be pretty useful for better showcasing which areas are the most important to focus on for making things read well. It can be easy to forget about when you are focused in.
My Slann looks amazing!! Thank you so much for all your tips😍
Hope you enjoyed it! Was a really creative paint job! :) we'll get you the mini back soon!
Just the tips?
@SquidmarMiniatures thankyou!! Can't wait to see it in person😊
Its good that you are happy with it, but ngl dude, i personnally feel like it looked even better before they touched it, you are already an insane painter my guy :,)
Hope this is a continual series! The advice is great to see and watch and I can apply it to my own painting skills depending on each mini and what can be improved on each one in different ways! Love it!
Yeah, this was fantastic!
Love the split screen sponsor section, surprised people don't do that all the time!
That Dward paintjob was sick even before the changes, incredible work!
That was really educational, looking forward to part 2,3,4 etc !
That's actually surprisingly educational video.
I feel like with the first model, I see what they were going for. Kind of an object shadows highlight.
The part of the head right behind the headdress was in shadow despite being a high point, could have added an outline of the feathers to highlight rather than completely highlight, but that wouldn't have been fast at all.
Might have been the same on the torso? Like the big chin causing some shadows on the upper chest.
Your additions are definitely an improvement but I think the original artist had some unique ideas I want to try now
I loved this video! So many times I sit and think “it needs something but I don’t know how to take it where I want it to go” more of these please! Y’all are the best! Enjoy your vacation!🤙🏻
This is one of the most helpful videos on mini-painting I've seen. I hope other youtube artists model this sort of thing. I remember asking myself while watching specifically the parts about pushing the contrast "Oh, that's all it is, but look at the difference!" But you don't always see that when you're watching a pro go from start-to-finish. Thanks so much!
Very nice guys. It shows perfectly how what looks like "over the top" when painting it looks just perfectly right when finished. Now, if I only had the guts to push my mini's that 1 step further...
The level of SHADE in this video 😆 Loving the tips & tricks! Thank you guys!
Lukas can be so savage some times hahaha
I like the before of the orc better, it looked grim and after he looks almost happy
Paint the full Fellowship, and stick them in a diorama🤘🏻
As an Australian I am thankful to have moved to Canada a decade ago for the sole purpose of learning to paint better. I am almost at the level of applying for citizenship, but I have to work on my NMM...
I'm proud of you. A decisions that will pay off in the long run. Once Canadian you'll be fine
Ребята вы очень крутые,смотрю ваши видео и учусь рисовать.Спасибо вам за такой контент!
They were great before and after. Good job to everyone
I prefered the ork before, those highlights and that green tune took away a lot of the grittyness.
Was about to comment about it. The original one looks more grimdark and the after looks more like "regular" ork. I'm not sayin its bad, bit it feels like it took away some of the character and style.
Thank you papa, I look forward to making some improvements!
Best of luck!
Australian here, I approve of the Australia heckling, we feed on it!
looks great but I do feel like the general vibe of the ork was lost
The interesting point common to these four paint jobs is: increase contrast, as always. This is key in mini painting.
Literally the coolest vid you have EVER made.
Such a great idea
Something that drastically improved my understanding of painting muscles and skin was how you demonstrated taking the highlight all the way up to the connecting muscle. I Choudhary figure out why my models had a weird muscle appearance, but seeing how you painted the frogs highlights really drove the point on how to make it look more natural. What a small tip, but a huge impact on the results. Thank you for showing that!
This is such a good video format/topic!
I admit I don’t really care if my paint jobs look good or bad as long as that pass that 3+ color rule and don’t look like crap when you’re playing with them on the tabletop that’s good enough for me.
With that being said I do appreciate learning new skills that can make my painting better especially if I decide to really go all out on a model
The wear & tear on the terminator looks great. I didn't expect a few lines to make such a big difference.
4:10- So the flower crown/hat/whatever doesn’t create a shadow? I guess not, if the light source was directly above it……
It's a great observation. Some of this was artistic choice, but also the "light source direction" can sometimes benefit from being unrealistic for minis being viewed 360 degrees, like for game pieces. Front-on viewing only, you might make slightly different choices.
@@BloomThat true! But the only reason I was asking and pointing it out was because I was wondering if he actually had a connection with this person?!? Because if could have been what they were going for, but it kinda sounded like he was saying “there was NO reason for a shadow there” to me……………… so I was curious!?! Anything new I can learn I will try to get the most out of it!!!
@@AcoylteKraven82 Ultimately miniature painting moves into set photography skills, in the sense that you don't just want the light to be realistic, but to place the lights in the right places for the miniature to look their best.
I can make a lot of terrible pictures that aren't caused by the light being fake (as it's always real, it's a camera!), or the subject being bad, but the light sources being the wrong hue, or placed in locations that don't help the subject look good. A lot of lighting you see in stills, and even in movies, includes plenty of secondary lights that you would never find in real life: See basically every night scene, or anything lit by candlelight.
So can I get a light setup that makes the crown create a shadow? Sure! But does it make the subject look better? Probably not
@@jorgemontero6384 Ummmmm, ok……… I can’t tell if you are answering a reply I will leave in the future or if you were trying to reply to someone else’s comment that kinda had something to do with lighting also and something went wrong or your just messing with me?!? Yeah, I get taken a picture of anything is like taking a picture of a mini! But at no point was I talking any studio lighting or lighting to be able to film a movie or show!?! I was talking about the NORMAL lighting when you walk outside and the sun is in your face, where would the shadows fall!?! Like in the case of the model in question…… I’m not asking how the light should fall on it in his studio at his paint desk! I’m asking about the lighting if that creature was REAL AND ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!! But honestly I’m not sure where you were going with that?!? Since you were replying to the 2nd message I left (for the obvious reason! Unless you’re new to RUclips) but were talking a bit more about the original comment, but that was corrected in the 2nd part!!! But I don’t know!?!
That was my thoughts exactly, though most of the highlights did look better in the after, but I agree it wasn't perfect still
seeing squidmar edge a toad wizard was delightful
This might be your most educational video yet. Very helpful!
This was my favorite video of the last several months. Thanks!
I'm so glad you also leveled the slann on his base.
Would have like to seen a bit more of the before and after comparisons on each model to better see just what the changes did. But great content!
Actually.... It might be controversial but I think the before on the frog looked better than the after. Almost like they mislabeled the before and after. Whoever's the artist he's clearly talented.
I'm Steve AND I'm from Australia!! Double whammy!
Such a good idea for a video!!!!!!
Monthly series man. Such a unique idea.
The Ork was cool,not every Ork took a toxic waste bath with Harley Quinn.
"Australian people cannot paint!"?? Well. Turns out spite is a great motivator, and I'm gonna embrace it
What did us Aussies do???
You guys crack me up
They know what they've done
What did the Aussies do? Well, not paint apparently.
@@eXileLies I know right!
They don't know what time the tabletop is.
@@joshconfer209 thats because its not tabletop in Australia. We play tableunder
Just started painting this year and did some blue boys and nids. I was quite happy and was going to post them online for progress and feedback. Turns out there is no point, as an Aussie I know now I will never be good.
Rip
When ever I see a new video in my feed I get so excited, love you both so so much!
You just inspired me to do a 100% restart on the copper NMM I was doing on my bloodbowl snotlings! Thank you!
MORE CONTRAST!!!
My tips on how much is enough highlight: make a lot, a really lot, and just when you think you have made too much and have ruined the mini, put another layer highlights. THAT is the correct amount of highlights. Continue with the mini and thank me later.
I have seen armies painted on a neon theme and they look amazing. So I guess there cannot be too much contrast if you apply it on the right places.
great tips overall! always nice to have an external look on your paintjobs to improve and you guys sure know what you're talking about.
I do however feel like the ork was kinda disrespected in its own regards, you took that brownish grimdark orc and made it back to a generic one, i think you could've done pretty much the same and still manage to keep the original feeling of this guy cause this ork's owner will either have to repaint this mini or his whole army for it to fit back in
I would think that determining the correct colours to use would be the biggest barrier to doing touch-ups on an old minis.
The terminator was really impressive with so small extra touches
I prefer the after ork. I see people say the original is more "Grimdark", but to me "Grimdark" is not a lack of brighter colors or subdued colors, its more about the overall figure looking like it belongs in a setting that shows wear and tear from active use.
For the space marine "my favorite color is green, so we've actually decided to go with a nice forest green for the armor."
Ok you got me with Gabagool, I had to go back like 3 times LOL.
OILERS Cap!!!! way to go Emil! Also, cool video, neat idea.. do more like this.
Fantastic video! There are things in here that explains stuff that I just didn't understand in your earlier tutorials. Great idea, well done!
Loved this video, seeing your skills and advice put into practice is inspiring.
I find it helpful to see your solutions to different plateau problems
I love this sort of videos. Learned so much more. Thnxxx guys! ❤
The paint jobs are already crazy good 😅
good job 👌👌👌👌
My whole view the last what, 6 years, is better done than perfect. Which has led me to a lot of painted minis, some looking way worse, and some better. But at least they are done and to a better than decent standard most of the time :)
100%
Hey you’re wearing an Oilers hat!!! Thanks for the Edmonton appreciation 😂❤
Syperb format. Educatinal, amd fun! Looking forward to more of the same.
All of those minis are fantastic and in my opinion don’t need anything extra. But to be fair I’m from Australia so I don’t know how to paint
That Termie got himself a real glowup!... How would one go about doing that on dark angel green models? Yellow? White?, Bright green?
I need that ink to water ratio table that lukas has for improving my painting !
Fantastic video. Would love to see a series like this
Always highlight more than you think you need to ;)
I don't know. I'm Australian and the white painted walls in my house look pretty good.
Did you paint them though? Or was it migrant labour 😅
@Almindale I like painting walls ceilings less so). I even paint all my windiw a dfloor architraves with enamel paintto get that smooth finish.
@@Andrewc87563 oh snap. Theory debunked, well played sir
Interesting premise for a video! Look forward to seeing more of these
The Terminator punch up was great!
Cool idea for a video, hope you do more of these.
I thought the Ork actually looked better in the before part
Kind of wish you'd push contrast by working with brightness and shadoes without increasing saturation on the orc. It kind of misses the point when you change the art style completely. Not every mini has to be oversaturated like crazy even though that's the mini painting meta for some reason.
Great video with great tips & tricks. Inspiring!
I’d love to see an officially judged competition on these guys and Steve to see who wins. It’s easy to say Australian can’t paint but if and officially recognised competition judges Steve better than these could couldn’t say what they say. Also there’s many different painting styles so no one can really say they are better. Just so people know I’m not from Australia or am I Australian I just would love to see this happen
DAMIT i am australian, when you were explaining the changes i think that it wont change much, then i see before and after, DAMIT! nice work
I couldn’t paint as good as yall if my life depended on it
Emil: "Australians can't paint!"
All the Aussie display painters: "This means.... WAR!!!"
I mean…..he was right….he just didn’t have to say it out loud 😢
@DamianM90 you don't speak for all of us thank you Damo 🤣
Am I the only one thinking "I wish I was as good as the BEFORE in this video"? :D
What a sick burn against the Tabletop Time Crew with that australian comment :D
I love you guys
Amazing guys
Love from Australia 🇦🇺
It’s hard to paint upside down, be kind.
Super fun video guys
i haven't been painting wrong my whole life cuz i've only started painting two years ago...
Any of those minis are 100 times better than I could do lol
awesome video ❤
Very nicely done, like'em so far. Only gripe is the orc one. While I get, that the mini was on the messy side anda bit difficult to read, it was also really gritty / grim dark. The overhaul, while I like it, has a different vibe. I personally would've liked to keep the skin some kind of olive and don't go too much into the saturated greens. The edge highlights on weapons and shoulders definitively helped though.
A video on color theory would be amazing. Where you show thoughts when mixing colors. I dont have a lot of colors and i would love to get some advice for color theory. Maybe a not as extrem version as your 2 color video.
in germany we have a collector edition who comes every week or another for the new orks an goblins vs the new empire(i dont know how to call them)
You just gave me an idea. It would be super cool If we sent you minis painted from us, the fans, from different nations and you rated them. For example, the best mini from Switzerland, the best in Sverige, ecc. All this based on your taste, obviusly. Sort of a national painting championship. I would certainly send you something!
Well, i was going to try painting miniatures. But since in Australian i think ill just not even try anymore 😂
I like the Oilers hat! Sad that they didn't win the Stanley cup... Many thanks for all the tips!
I wanna see Maxime applying what you did in a lesson 😊
No more cookies for Lucas!
Poor ork compeletely lost his grimdark vibe
Ouch, in Australian.