The Evil Decline of Britain’s Dystopian Estates
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Today we tackle Britain's worst Estates. We explore how these notorious hotbeds of crime once began as a tool to lift the working class from slums to the middle class. But what went wrong?
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Can you make a video on the bull ring from Manchester
Where is the link to the study? I don't see it in the description.
@@llynnmarks3382 just copy this: Thatcherite Ideology, Housing Tenure and Crime and enter, it is the first result
@@llynnmarks3382 sorry mate, added now!
Compulsory Purchase is the UK version of eminent domain.
I lived in massive high-rise developments in South Korea for 16 years. They were great places to live. Clean staircases and lifts, ordered, perfectly safe, lots of lovely landscaped garden areas, and playgrounds which were never vandalised....it's not the architecture's fault. It's all down to the residents. When there's mass unemployment and little hope of economic progress in life, people stop caring.
There's hardly gonna be mass unemployment in a place called Career now is there?
It's partially the architects fault for building ugly places to live in. It's also, as you say, the people who live there. If they don't own the houses they live in, if they have no stake in it and the thing is a hideous monstrosity anyway, what do they care if it goes to crap?
Same I've lived in a few in China, great safe communities. When my British family visited they were worried, they immediately associate high rises with crime and poverty and sneered at it, but eventually they realised it's ordinary and very convenient. The problem is entirely cultural and social on behalf of the British government deciding to basically put problem families all into the same buildings. As a teacher now, it's pretty obvious when you have problem kids you don't just group them all together, you mix them with the normal kids to normalise and improve their behaviour. If you group the horrible kids together, you get one giant class of horrible kids who make each other more horrible and everyone hates teaching that class (which some dumb schools do) and the UK did that with social high rises... which is further encouraged by them being cheaper. My point is it's not a problem inherent to a block of flats, it's the way the UK used them.
Absolutely correct ,it’s because Korea is a monoculture
Correct. That is because South Koreans are industrious people with high intellect and values.
It was not an accident, it was done on purpose. Now middle class are busy being mad at the lower class and lower class are mad at the middle class. While the top are profiting and the rest of us are distracted trying to stay alive.
Word up. Modern society is a trap more so than ever before. Conflict and division rule and the financial slave system rigged to ensure compliance and high profit for the few, at humanity's cost. Sad and bleak times to say the least.
divide & conquer
@@RunawayTrain2502 101, its in the rulebook of the rich
I guess we have to become rich then..
@@andyt9181 not everyone can. Some don't have the ability, education or knowledge (not saying you need all of them), some don't have the motivation and the more wealth the richest people obtain, the harder they are to break into. Also, they can't be allowed to, else who would do all the "menial" and "unskilled" work?
It's a similar situation in Ireland, I earn too much money to qualify for social housing, but not enough to pay rent AND save for a deposit.
Same in US
@@josiepie1523it’s time to go to the Middle East
It's easier to earn less bro
Single people are punished in todays society
@@nameunavailable-gp3otyupper. Single, and about to be priced out of renting in Barcelona.
I’m grew up in Peckham, in what was the largest estate in Europe for some time. My mum did everything in her power to get us out of there as soon as she could.
At the time I didn’t want to leave but looking back, and seeing how well I’ve done in life thereafter, I’m forever grateful for the struggle she went through to make a better life for us.
Single parent households struggle.
I love these little documentaries about the UK’s architectural history. I fear a lot of the buildings we’re throwing up in the present will end up like this too
Yes, architects are like a strange cult. They talk amongst themselves and then create these disorientating, inhumane modern buildings that do nothing for the human spirit. It's almost like they're trying to remove us from our natural state.
Newbuilds are absolutely tiny. My mate had bought a newbuild that cost about the same as mine which is 80s ish. His house is litterally half the size of mine with worse insulation and quality.
Absolute trash being pumped out by the three big construction companies.
The architecture mirrors its demographic change too.
May the world call me accusatory things for saying this, but it does not make this insight less true.
@@maxusman8_351 it’s mental. You probably wouldn’t be surprised at how many corners these developers cut. I’ve had the displeasure of working on a few building sites and you see it plain as day, it’s almost criminal.
Builders are shite now. Pump and dump developers etc. I miss solid brickwork. It's beautiful and it lasts. The buildings behind my place are 200 years old and standing strong. Gorgeous blue stone foundation and red and yellow brickwork. Stunning arches etc. This part of Melbourne feels like Manchester or Stoke. I grew up in a bizarre estate in the UK called Southgate. It looked like soviet Europe. Pure Brutalism. Bentilee in Stoke is a massive estate.
Politicians are the same everywhere. They care more about their pocketbooks than people.
Innit. Spot on. They don't want to understand anything. Someone once said politics is like a horse painted red on one side and blue on the other and everyone cheers for their side and walks while the politicians are sitting on their arse riding the bloody horse.
Those with a desire to lead are the last ones you want
well its obvious who they serve....Mystery Babylon!!! they serve and pray to the little g god of this world Not the Earth who with the heavens created BY THE ETERNAL GOD!!! The little g gods basically the fallen Angels who have principalities as there leader whose Angelic name is Gadreel but the Devil he is better known since he usurped Dominion of this world from Adam he took over with his millions of fallen Angels but Lord Jesus stripped them of Authority on the cross!!! the Satan still have Dominion till the alloted time then he is giving rule for 3 years of the second half of the coming 7 year Tribulation.....Ezekiel talks of the attempt to remove His Word His mighty son JESUS CHRIST!!!! It says the Lord will sit back on his throne and laugh and hand non believer over to a reprobate mind......seriously look at the world today? so called scientists telling male children to get castrated and become a woman???? instead of telling the child the truth, you cant change gender!! one thing i know The Lord will judge them.........that is scary and i'm a child of the ETERNAL GOD i still mess up but this lot!!!! they are actors
They are not the same everywhere, but you have to look at the funding models for politicians and the accountability models, barriers to entry for candidates, and corporate interventions at all levels. Also voter suppression.
so stop voting for the career-politicians
I grew up on an estate in a block of flats in Eastern Europe in the 90s and the working class
(my parents and the neighbours) did indeed take care of the grim buildings and concrete filled environment.
Most people owned their flats, and only tiny percentage was subsidised by the gov.
I grew up poor, no vacations, second hand clothes, meat only on Sundays etc.
but in a civilised and relatively safe environment. No gangs, no dirt, no mess.
But with many of the Britain's under-funded housing blocks being knocked down, and much of the council housing stoke sold off, do not people now have the freedom to live on the streets?
@@antispindr8613 We should never criminalise homelessness :(
Homeless issue is a mental health and addiction issue mainly.
Honestly, ithey are still the same in Hungary to this day. Pretty safe, full of families, with maybe minor gangs in the bigger cities. The apartment blocs are relatively well kept and taken care of, though with some exceptions.
Then again, they haven't seen mass immigration...
No b l a c k s
@@kevins8386rights it’s all their fault, not the massive buying out of flats by greedy corporations, not the schools letting go of students to keep a better image, not the compulsory purchase…
Landlords buying old council homes (because they are cheaper to buy) and turning them into HMOs is a big problem for council estates... Over time whole streets become brought up and have treble the number of people living in them on top of each other sharing bathrooms kitchens etc. HMOs are turning decent (all be it boring) council housing back into Victorian slums.
This is so true. The landlords fly tipping is unreal too.
Its a shame landlords like this give the rest of them a bad rep, my parents own 2 ex council houses which we rent out to people on universal credit, and honestly they trash the places, we try to keep them up to standard but it ends up costing us far more money than the actual rent. A lot of the people who dont have to pay for rent with their own money just dont give a fuck so i see why most landlords stop bothering. We cant even evict them to sell the houses because the council is preventing us.
Ah, you've seen my street.
There aren't really any council estates anymore. They were all transferred to the control of housing associations (often against the wishes of the residents via dodgy ballots) which suited the then Labour government because Gordon Brown was trying to have his cake and eat it by promising investment while also saving money. The trick was that councils didn't pay VAT but housing associations did so if the government promises to invest £1bn or however much in public housing, they know they're getting a sixth of it back straight away in VAT payments.
@@angryafer1236 Doubt it
Grew up around the corner from Thamesmead and Woolwich in Plumstead, South east London. I was always told from a young age to avoid the large estates in both areas, they were seen as run down and undesirable places to live exactly because of the people.
Fast forward now and because of the Elizabeth line and gentrification a one or two bed flat in either area can be now worth upwards of 500k in Thamesmead or more than 700k in Woolwich to buy.
Their literally pricing the poor and working class out of these areas and making them commuter hubs to central london for the struggling middle class who can’t afford to buy a flat there, so have to survive month to month paying 2k in rent.
Where does it stop?
Wait until the rich have yo empty the bins and clean their own toilets, then just watch how fast they build council houses. And they will be tiny, sunless places, you know, just so we don't forget our place and start wanting something better.
When all else fails! They use war as the answer! And I feel a big one looming on the horizon!
Very sadly I agree !
One glimmer of hope...war may or may not give way to revolution..
It IS time that we seized ownership & control of the basics...like the NHS was in the 60/70s it was the largest employer in Europe & provided the best healthcare for all...again sadly... it's been run down & sold off to US style profit monsters, where we're hit for several quid car parking before even entering a hospital.@@cosmicaudio4589
@@cosmicaudio4589 civil war
As someone from Abbey Wood I agree. Even Abbey Wood is expensive now and there’s not even a high street
Talking about the compulsory purchase thing reminds me of a neighbour of mine who worked very hard for many years to buy some land in the countryside to build a house. They paid £70k for the land outright and then started building their dream house with a £300k mortgage. They finished building their house and they moved into it on December 2017. In February 2018 the government decided to build a bypass for the nearest town and their home was in the pathway for the road.. So the council gave them £110k and said gtfo.
2 months of living in something they spent the previous 15 years of their life working for, and they're forced to take a £260k loss on it. Absolute bullshit how the government can do this to people.
I feel there is more to this story.
@@garyfreeman896Yeah. Because I would've been buried in that house.
@@lidmc796 I'm not sure I understand your comment.
@@garyfreeman896 He means there is no way he would've given up the property. To the point where they'd have to physically remove him or he'd be bulldozed away with it
@@garyfreeman896and what "more" do u feel there's about this story? I smell a delusional commie.
It's interesting watching the old images of the council estates in the UK from the 40s/50s/60s and not seeing a single ethnic person. Mass immigration for better or worse has also had a massive impact on the working class and lower middle class. Rents are higher and services are now stretched to breaking point. Just watching the images of the old slums in UK cities make me wonder if we are coming full circle back to that slum living again. Is adding 700,000 people a year a good idea when you have so much homelessness and poverty already?
I visited England in the 60's, immegration??? ROFL.
Same thing here in Sweden. We built masses of council owned estates in the 1960s. Economic problems in the 1970s led to them being underutilized. In the 1980s when masses of immigrants stayed to arrive, especially from the Middle East and Africa, they moved in and that’s when these areas became crime filled ghettoes.
However, it seems really weird that legal entities/investment funds can buy individual apartments/flats. Here in Sweden that’s not possible.
its beneficial to the apartment owners because it gets them a higher price than if they restricted who they could sell them to.
Funny how all of the West went to shit after the 70s with all those civil movements for "rights"
Shh, We’re not supposed to mention the glaringly obvious problems that mass immigration cause.
Britain had a massive empire so I understand. But why Sweden allowed thousands of immigrants from awful countries, refused to educate them properly and civilise them with Swedish culture & just LET them develop their own ghetto culture, i will never understand
Grew up on the Yew Tree Estate Walsall, was built as a showcase estate in the 60s as an example of what Social housing of the future could look like. It was amazing. 2 schools with their own swimming baths each, 3 pubs and probably the largest social working club in the country with concert halls we would have our Christmas parties at, large 4 table snooker room, Dentist, doctors surgery, library, 2 retirement homes 3 parades of shops, it's own petrol station, beautiful semi dethatched houses with big gardens, lots of fields and two parks, 3 churches, a community hall. Everything you could possibly need to live and all within walking distance. You could call it the original 15 minute city. Amazing community where everyone knew each other, looked out for each other and was proud as punch of what they had. My dad said all that started to change just after I was born (1980) when Sandwell Council (Labour run) decided to move the 'Naughty Nigel's' onto the estate that started ruining the place. It quickly started to go down hill and people started to sell up (after Thatcher had privatised the housing) and moving away. By the mid ninety's it was declared one of the roughest estates in the country. It was one of the first to be fitted out with CCTV cameras everywhere, they decided to knock down all the tower blocks (which was great for me and my mates as we tatted out all the copper piping and boilers and made a small fortune for teenagers but I digress) and the land was sold off to private housing developers. Both schools was bulldozed and one new school built and more land sold off to private housing developers. 2 pubs and the club was bulldozed and yes, the land sold off to private housing developers. None of whom built any new useful to the community projects just little box houses putting massive strain on the local infrastructure. Today the estate is a shadow of its former self with only a small core of the original community still here feeling alien amongst the atomised new comers who have no interest in community. We wasn't rich growing up, far from it but I would never trade my childhood to have grown up anywhere else. And I look at my nephews and niece today and my heart sinks for what they have missed out on and will never get to experience... Thank you Jimmy for putting together this video giving body to what I have been saying and railed against for years. Much appreciated my man. 👍👍
@moss1066 Your story speaks to exactly what the dream of these estates was, vs the reality of what they became. And they really didn't need to go down this route. A well executed housing estate community is possible. Or maybe 'was'. Too much has changed now and the clock could never be turned back. Thanks for sharing your story mate! 🍻
@@lancebaylis3169 We used to police our own community but then the state wanted to take that power away from us and isolate it in their own hands. That's why they run amok nowadays and nobody feels they can step in to deal with issues as it's you who will be prosecuted by the State for 'taking the law into your own hands'. They dished out ASBOs like sweets to the ones strong enough to defend our community and left everyone vulnerable. I will never forgive New Labour or the Tories for that. But these laws can be stripped back if we can regain our democracy and do what the public have been crying out for decades. Thanks for taking the time to read 👍
The hilarious thing is Commieblocks, didn't turn out like this at all, turns out Soviet housing planning, was, despite meme'd to death, vastly superior than Western housing solutions and far better planned. I got to stay in a Stalinist era Commieblock in Berlin, and it was legitimately more grand (neo-classical) and had more floorspace than anything you could get for under 10k a month in London.
Great post moss1066. You were smart to get that copper!! What a shame and how traumatised the people who have lived there from the beginning, or near the beginning, must be now. I’ve read that our wealth inequality is now second only to Bulgaria. There was a time when people hoped “the government would realise” that the death of public spending and the colossal slump in people’s morale would ultimately affect their wealth as well, but now the level of orchestration of eugenics and social cleansing is right in people’s faces, people are mostly too depressed to fight anything any more when traditional methods of protesting and flooding MPs with letters no longer works in many areas (and when it comes to protesting it could put you in hospital or prison.) Your story and your lived experience of seeing these changes is so invaluable… we need to know where we came from to understand where we are now. I feel like you could write an amazing book or movie (and I say that as someone who used to work in a creative writing and theatre setting - destroyed almost entirely by the Arts Council cuts which turned beautiful theatres into blocks of flats after the Lotteries etc poured millions into them.) Every decade we live in a different world we didn’t believe would have been possible.
I grew up in both kinds of projects knew everybody practically no crime everybody had a little garden bbq for the 4th of Julys our parents were poor but they were all pitching to buy fireworks one year they rented a bouncy castle. And then I lived in actual bricks in the city of Boston where people stab each other over a 40 oz of beer all the rims on the vehicles were stolen.gang wars the ghetto bird flying above every night with a spotlight sounds like the 4th of July. You can feel the tension in the air
4 years ago myself and the people left in my east london estate were evicted so they could flatten it out and build new “luxury apartments” and my family had to move out of london. was recently back visiting family nearby and the estate was still entirely intact
No doubt with massively increased rental prices eh..
Degenerate government
They are waiting until the property value rises even higher to sell it with profit... and us normal people are the losers in this scenario
You must've missed the news in 2020. Think there was a bigger priority than some povo housing,
They typically make luxury apartments because those are the only ones that are profitable to make and sell, because of excessive regulations, labor laws, fee's and costs around building new homes.
@@kaydog890 yeah man, they were too busy killing people in hospitals using Remdesivir to worry about much else
I am a Londoner and a bricklayer,I can tell you nothing has been learnt from the past. All over london estates are buing built that are nothing more than flats with tiny rooms that cram so many people in to a small area. I predict more crime and murder than ever before,especially as most of the new inhabitants are a terrible mix of immigrants. Gangs are already a thing based upon ethnic origin and can only get worse.
Add to that the huge cuts for youth services in disenfranchised areas, alongside a social perception that high cost material goods are an aspirational goal, and we have a lost generation of youths thinking nothing of killing another for clout. An unnecessary madness that could be so easily avoided. Modern society is mentally ill, but we've been conditioned to believe this is how we should live...
I grew up in an Estate in East London. It was brilliant. Things started to change in mid 80s when crime started to increase.
Growing up in Australia, all I knew about council estates was what I saw on The Bill, and they looked well grim. This vid is an eye opener. As usual, the working class gets screwed over by those who have money.
They showed The Bill in Australia 🤣 to be fair all I knew of Australia was Neighbours and Crocodile Dundee
Wrong...We have a underclass who actually screw over the working class...none look for work...alcohol and drugs dependency and gimme gimme gimme that free money added with spiralling illegal and legal immigration
after watching Spanian's hood videos your estates and council houses look way nicer than anything in the Uk 😅
@@lukeh4358lol a mate of mine was in jail with Spanian. Used to train with him every day.
@@dan44zzt231 We've both been sold on lies. I ended up moving to London in 2003 and learned that it was a lot more than I'd learned in The Bill.... although I learned than Hendon is a real place... esp since I lived in Finchley and would catch a bus to Brent Cross to buy Krispy Kreme doughnuts
Genuinely saddening video. Excellently presented mate. We need to force change and reverse decades of evil
he was supporting a lifelong violent criminal in his last video
Sorry ZEK.O but this video is a shambles.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 he disagreed with himself on the key issue lol. wokism has mushed his brains
@@user-sq6vc5ld1k everything i don't like is woke, that's you buddy, contribute something meaningful other than your redpill youtubers you adore
@@venixed184 he argues against himself in this video.. you and he probably can't see
In the States, we call them The Projects. Most here were built after WW2 . They were strong buildings architecturally and had nice big rooms and good floor plans. During the 1950s, they started accepting low income regardless of veteran status.
Needless to say, the high concentration of people with no money led to crime. The places became hell holes and by the 1980s, many had been torn down with many more to follow.
They replaced the buildings with newer crap construction and moved a lot of the same people back in.
I wish you showed the locations on a map too.
There are so many locations of these estates in Britain that the map would be absolutely covered in them.
Ironic thing is though these council houses are twice the size of private rented or "luxury flats"
I grew up on Castle Vale estate in Birmingham. It was so bad the entire place had to be torn down and rebuilt.
at least it's better now?
I lived near Chelmsly wood myself
@@SuhbanIoit's Birmingham 😂
I lived in cosford tower, luckily it was torn down but the housing shortage continues.. there's no incentive to make it better and MPs are too aware of their donors to be in favour of really helping folk. So what's the answer? Local government on a smaller scale? Cuz Birmingham council is bankrupt & self serving.
Drove past that all the time coming back from Asda. It was extremely rough wasn’t it ?
Mate that was a brilliant video, I grew up in a London council estate that was one of the places the worst of the worst were put! In the late 80's early 90's in my block of about 50 flats there was only one family that owned a car but fifteen families that had a dealer living in the flat. Sometimes just the son of the family Sometimes every member of the family! Crime was a daily event and even murder not uncommon. The council did nothing to maintain the place and even the main entrance had been smashed open and left like that for over ten years! Anyone could come and go as they pleased regardless if you lived there or not! I went back to see the place lately and only one family from the old days still lived there. It looks really nice now and it's entrance is secure as 90% of the flats are privately owned! Funny that the council is perfectly happy to maintain the place when landlords own it but never did when us lower working lived there!
On point!
@@grahamjonathan762 cheers mate and thanks for the likes everyone
I live in Folkestone, Kent. It’s becoming a seaside exclave of London. It’s only an hour by train, since the high speed was built. I’m born and raised here, for which I feel grateful. Though there are a lot of London-type developments planned and they are very controversial with a lot of the locals.
I moved from my childhood home on a council estate on the outside of Liverpool to a "posher" area .. i actually miss the estate and the people i grew up with. We didnt have much but we were happy and helped one another and treated eachother with respect. Were i am now people are stuck up and horrible and dont want to do anything for others let alone hold a door open for someone or say thank you to the bus driver .. its crazy seeing the difference in personality when it comes to lower class council estates and middle class posh areas ... some people just see us as rough and dumb and robbers and lazy but if you really got to know some of these estates whos familys have been there for generations you will see a different side than what your shown in the media and online or by your posh mate in his gated community. Im very proud of the area i grew up on and love the people. My family still live there many of them elderly and i never have to worry about them since half the street look out for one another and same on the next street.
18:03 lmao the doc mentions the area the council estate is here that i was born on ..
Dystopinan is definitely the right world. It's truly crazy how you get shoved down the list the more you try and make an effort. I am grinding hard to build my own business/ecommerce shop, bringing in the majority of my income from other countries, essentially boosting our economy as money coming into the UK is slightly more valuable. The gov just tax it MORE and trying to get a mortgage is insanely hard when you are a creative. They don't view it as stable even if you have years of accounting documents to back it up. I am lucky that my parents got lucky that their parents got lucky with their house.. It's been passed down through the family. If I didn't have that, I can't imagine where i'd be having to rent. I'm trying to hard to save up but it's hard man. The more I save the further away housing seems to get with rising costs.
Excellent work. I've been living in Ireland for 16 years and they have more or less the same problem. I came back home to Spain and I live in a small town in the West but if you go to Barelona, Madrid, the big cities, they have similar troubles. bigger demand than offer and a huge number of flats sold to investment banks and obscure companies only there for profit with the people interest and future completely forgotten. Rodrigo Rato, former Economy Minister was sentenced to jail for irregularities and when asked why?, why the hell you and the others did it? his answer was, It's the market my friend. just like an old mob film, nothing personal my friend.... just bussinnes.
We live in a council estate where people who've been removed from London, usually for committing crime, get sent into the plethora of new houses that have been built recently after years of them slowly destroying all the greenery, fields and woodland that made this place feel like a fairy tail land for decades.
The government likes to make the cash cow look nice for tourists who make them more money, but at the expense of the rest of us who actually live here.
Problem is, the town was "snug" before, now we're packed in like sardines in an over crowded town where these people get brought in and the crime rate that had previously dropped over the years has since doubled in the span of less than ONE year.
The problem is that rather than fix London's problems, they dump them elsewhere, make everywhere else worse, all the while not fixing London's problems again until they build up to repeat the process because that would cost money they wouldn't make back as fast.
Many here moved to a town that actively refused to house criminals, thugs and the like from London and I plan to do the same.
Their bottom line is higher than our peak at present, it's sad.
What town?
I grew up in a deprived council estate in the 90s and 00s. It has deteriorated beyond recognition now.
A huge issue is the low income working class having to live side by side by the generationally unemployed folks who have no respect for society and never want to contribute. It drags good people down to their level of apathy.
We'll soon see middle-class folks having to live side by side with these people in increasing numbers. It'll be interesting to see if anything happens when they are faced with these problems.
Even modern day apartment buildings are all designed the same as Prisons. This is a good lil doc Jimmy
I don't live on a council estate but my schools literally designed after a prison and actually has the corridors designed to break up riots
Maybe its the prisons that are designed like apartment houses.
The only difference between an attractive high-rise block of apartments, and a high-rise failing tenement... the people living there.
YES!
everyone here trying to make some socioeconomic point of the quality of life and social ills whatever whatever.
It's the people. That's it. Yes, there are mitigating factors here, but ultimately we can boil it down to the iq of the people living there.
The poors you mean?
@matthiasthulman4058 except IQ is directly connected to socioeconomic factors and culture as well
@@edgaraf9411 I guess that explains why ghettos are primarily filled with the same demographics in most western countries, eh?
Careful
@@edgaraf9411 ikr lol
I'm working class, there's no way I can afford to rent privately in my area and the council house waiting list is like, over 10 years, so I'm stuck in my current possition and I feel like there's absolutely no hope for the future at all, I can't see a future for myself where I'm comfortable and happy, the only future I see for myself is one of extreme stress and worrying about having a roof over my head, and frankly every day the idea of an "easy way out" seems easier and easier to stomach.
Sorry to hear that man. Don't give up, help is out there, sometimes it comes from the unlikeliest of places. You could also consider a different way of life or moving away, try to think outside the box. U got this
you start to understand why criminals do it aye
You might get through the list quicker than you think, it only took me a year on grounds of overcrowding. A friend of mine also only went through it in a year. I feel like this 10 year Que is said more to deter people from getting on it.
Universal Credit also will top up your income to help with rent. Say you have £1400 rent, + your personal allowance (like 360) then you're eligible for £1760 UC minus 55p for every pound you earn. If you earn £1500 a month, that would be £825 detracted, so you would still be eligible for £935 from universal credit to help you.
Look into these options, you won't have to do weekly meetings with Universal credit either as long as you earn over £900 a month.
Bro, I’m from the working class.
If you’re of average intelligence and you’re disciplined you can learn better paying skills that’ll help you improve youre life. That’s what I did.
I’m not crazy smart, I just learnt stuff online and then started helping businesses with online tasks.
That meant I didn’t have to work in restaurant or doing labouring jobs.
I can tell you now, no one else is going to do anything for us. Especially it these cunts in power.
It’s all on you and you can do it if you stick to it 🙂
Live in a terraced former council estate (built in 19th centruy)...
Every house is now privately owned and at least 50% of them have front rooms converted into bedroom and are rented out as HMO's.
Rented out at like £500+ per room.
A basic 2 bed home is on averge £900 pm.
I wont even speak about the lack of "community" in these areas.
Good video and very informative.
My father grew up in Leigh Park, near Portsmouth, in the 60s and 70s. It was basically built to be the countries largest council estate and many families were bussed in from all over the country (my dad's being from Scotland) because the areas they came from didn't have the supply of council houses to meet the demand. From the stories he told me, it was real rough.
You get all the poorest families and stick them in one place, it was practically a Vault Tec-esque social experiment. Naturally, crime was through the roof, constant violence, robbery etc. He said one day he went to junior school and one of the windows was broken where someone had tried to firebomb it overnight but all it did was burn a few toys then go out, thankfully. They only had one junior and one senior school on the estate.
In the mid 2000s a friend of mine got beaten up while cutting through the estate to get to Havant station. I think it's improved a lot now due the Right to Buy meaning a lot of the social housing on the estate is now privately owned. Anyway, not sure where I was going with this, just thought I'd add my own anecdote.
Yes Leigh Park always had a reputation for us in Portsmouth, and I started life in Somerstown! 🙂
People who live in poverty and degradation for hundreds of years tend to cultivate social pathologies in their gene pool. Alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, personality disorders, inbreeding, domestic violence, and sex abuse are all examples of social pathologies . It happens for a wide variety of reasons.
When you introduce large numbers of them into a new population of normal people, it tends to greatly degrade the normals, while only slightly elevating the abnormals. If you grow up in a dysfunctional family, situated in a high crime neighborhood your chances of success greatly diminish. I'm sorry but thats just the way it is.
It pains me to acknowledge that you're probably a lot closer to reality than the modern politically correct sociologists will ever be. Thank-you.@@RaptorFromWeegee
Never forget that they scrubbed vids of the Grenfell fire 'cause you could hear children screamin' from the upper floors and "that was against our ToS". The f-ing state...
Idk man, giant housing estates burning down is against my ToS
also the death toll was far higher than the 20 odd that was reported to have died, it was closer to a 100 or more, just listen to the eye witness testimony, those that organised relief said there was no one left to accept the stuff
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Grew up on Collyhurst, they’re currently in the process of tearing down our social estate and community to rebuild. Out of 274 homes being built, only 130 of the homes are going to be available for social letting. They’re much smaller than what is already here and I think it’s just, It’s sad. We have a great community here and I feel like we’re being forced out. Theirs many new high rises in Manchester City centre mostly empty because the average person can’t afford the ridiculous renting prices they ask for, sometimes reaching in to the 3K plus. It all feels like a massive waste.
Klauss swabb must be drooling.
I can tell you where the trip was.
It was the 'rights'
You see that idea they give you now; "the peasants were bought and sold with the land!' is referring to the right peasants had to subsist on the landscape indefinitely regardless of how the land ownership changed. Without that protection, now instead the new 'rights', the peasants were forced into the city slums which they still live in today.
This change and the tax laws is why young people struggle to get on their feet and most will never own a home, despite their parents working life long to pay for a home, and their grandparents, and great grandparents; all the way back to whichever ancestor sold the family farm in hopes of getting rich in the new industrial towns.
The movement of English peasants from country to city took place over a long period of time. It was driven in large part by the modernization of agriculture. Serfs became economically unfeasible, particularly after the Black death.
So, many were manumitted to become copyholders, like serfs, except they were free to leave the land and marry whomever they chose. Most remained on their manors as copyholders because that was all they knew.
Over time, these copyholders, living on the old manors, became economically obsolete. The open field manors were gradually converted to modern closed field manors through a process called "enclosure". These required much less labor.
So every time an enclosure occurred, peasants poured onto the roads, ending up in the towns and cities. Out with the old, and in with the new.
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Aye, it takes a long time to destroy a society. It's lucky for the rulership though that the average peasant doesn't know anything outside of their own lifetime.
Houses are unaffordable because there's wildly excessive demand for them. You can't keep rapidly growing the population of what is already the most densely populated country in Europe (England) and the most densely populated major European economy (UK) without prices spiralling out of control. You also can't build your way out of a problem when what little green space is being rapidly destroyed, infrastructure can't possibly keep up (where does the water come from, etc?) and people's quality of life continues to decline.
Could you imagine a britain where modernism/brutalism simply weren't created? Our cities would look incredible. Correct me if im wrong but cities such as Amsterdam dont have these kinds of buildings. Everywhere i've ever been in amsterdam, its been incredible architecture that has aged like a fine wine. Britains cities have aged like a raw egg.
You made that description so well 👏
@@kyrohowe3156 Thank you! I do like to consider myself a literary genius.
I bet they have, you just don't see them.
I Disagree you can see brutalist architecture in pretty much every city across Europe. These structures were mainly developed post war for similar reasons described in this video. And well, they were very cheap. They are on the outskirts of Paris, Amsterdam, Rome etc. today there are typically occupied by immigrants. Speaking of immigrants, while this video was incredibly well made, i was suprised that immigration was not referenced at all, specifically within the 70s and 80s in Britain. It was another contextual layer that added to the madness and mismanagement of these estates.
@@woalasteele yup
The second murder in 3 months? Wow. That's an hours worth in Chicago.
Yey!
Guns!!!
America doing it right huh?!
Thats so sad.
I wish your government would make the changes it needs to to slow down and minimise the slaughter happening there
England is a civilised country mate. Or it was
I love how people like to big up how crap there area is and how much worse it is then others , cringe AF 🤣
Chicago must be even more black than London.....simple equation.
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Perhaps, but that ended with empire and mass immigration.
Jimmy youve done another banger, so many elements and bits of history people remember but don't stitch together you done a great job with this. Explains so well how got a disfunction society.
The quality of your videos has really increased over the last year or so. This vid must've taken ages to research and edit. Love your content Jimmy
I agree. His vids have become 'must watch', with fantastic research and clear presentation.
I think it's clear to see people from different social classes are very different from one another.
That means a lot more social divisions and less common interest.
And nowadays when all the government does it deal with big corporations, and so much of society is scaffolded up by them, these corporations can throw around the weight of their influence much more unopposed, so people get left behind, particularly the middle and working class.
So that's the vast majority of people at this current extent.
ethnic groups*
@@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334no its definitely social classes as well
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“Im racist”
Thanks for letting us know
@@SeaCowsBeatLobsters nah
I grew up near Thamesmead. Lived in Greenwich from the age of 3 until I was 7, when we moved away. Thankfully I was one of the lucky ones whose mother was able to secure a privately rented home from a landlord, but we would travel through Thamesmead regularly. I remember how decrepit and soulless the estate being as we'd drive past. It was so depressing. Huge, sharp, grey buildings covered in graffiti... My Nan would often comment on how awful it was and would tell me stories of how it was decades before.
as a English man born in 1976 in kent , to a under 21 and not considered an adult schizophrenic single mother. I had to be adopted by my grandparents so she could keep me , , from being told that giving up a career at 18 to stop my mum being in a institution is the right thing to do and saving the government money in the long run , to them dismantling said institutions for care in the community , then saying benefits for life is unfair and scrapped and cutting down care in the community , right now i am working part time while still being a unpaid carer for my mum just to keep going , it is surprising how quick attitudes and culture has changed since,
the hardest one to bear is people , we might be more connected then ever, yet i miss how people would sit on there doorstep with music going on chatting , first tvs, computers and now everyone's inside,
I was born in 1963 and in my opinion 1979 was the defining moment. The UK changed utterly. I'm not a mad leftie and I despise the far Left but Thatcherism changed everything. That's when this country became bitter, jealous and greedy. And people were applauded for it. Karma is a bword.
And as for compulsory purchase, I lived on the route of a controversial road scheme. The government offered 90% of market value under the CPO. I had elderly neighbours one side whose house was flattened and the lady died very soon after moving. The other was an elderly lady looking after her granddaughter. They never demolished her house or ours. The academic and the health professional who then moved in on short term let tenancy then were able to but the property, I don't know for how much but I do know the housing association tenant in the house where I lived was first offered £35k to buy his large 3bed terrace.In around 1998 (he delayed and it went up to £45k) .Those houses are about £850k now. I think about those ladies still.
Exceptional doc. How you put the chronology of events forward is so well done. Looking forward to the next one 👍
One of your more powerful videos this, ashamed to say I never realised why the policy of letting people to buy their council houses was so harmful until now.
Please don’t feel ashamed. I didn’t know this either until I watched this video. It’s depressing to finally become aware of the full extent of the evil that has taken place against the people.
Built for The Working Class,but now lived in by The Underclass......."innit"
The clip showed Trellick Tower which when built was the tallest residential tower block in Europe. In recent times flats have gone for £900,000.
I feel like I'm the only person that actually likes trellick. Also there's a cracking sicilian place on the ground floor
Speedrunning issues of the society never ends well. Big problems require alot of thinking and time
Grown up on council housing in one of the wealthier areas of the country - Cuckfield in West Sussex. I can absolutely attest to the lady who said you get looked down on for living in council housing. I’ve been given looks, been excluded and generally treated worse than everyone else because of my lower family wealth which has always sucked. As I’ve grown up being born in 2000, not only has my road gone from mostly council houses to pretty much none apart from mine, my 4 neighbours, 5 or 6 round the corner and a few blocks of flats. This was once a 60 + house, 60 + flats and 30 retirement flats road. As well as this, all public services have gotten worse. The roads in Sussex, which I again repeat is one of the wealthier areas in the country has also got some of the worst road conditions in the south of England. This makes absolutely no logically sense.. although if you see the amount of overweight EVs and unnecessary SUVs around here you can make sense of how the roads get worn out so quickly. Our hospital, the Princess royal went from being incredibly good all round to 6 hour A&E wait times. I split my leg open when I was 13 and was seen within half an hour of arriving and having the anaesthetic before my stitches. At 22 I broke my right hand and had to sit there, starting at 9pm, for 4 hours to get an X-ray. Yet the price of housing, and number of overly expensive property developments would indicate the area is getting wealthier? This country makes me sick, there is no hope for me to get out of where I am. This is how I truly feel. A revolution is well overdue, thathcher and all them evil Tory scum since have stolen this country back from the soldiers and working class who made its name Great Britain. It’s time we take back what’s ours, the war was waged on us a long time ago with tactics we’ve never before seen or understood until now, we all just have to see it.
so sorry you lived in a place called Cuckfeild
no way was it called cuckfield
yeah man, our country is in a terrible state if we don't fix it soon - widening inequality is killing us
@@JimmyTheGiant believe me brother, Cuckfield is the name. So rich our village park isn’t simply called a park it’s called the “Cuckfield Recreational Playground” because Cuckfield Park is already a 400 year old or so Manor House with like 30 acres of land lol. This tiny village has also always had a famous historic playground for the elites of the country called Ockenden manor which has recently housed extravagant guests like Derek Chisora and previously some royals, celebrity chefs and others alike. It’s also been here as long as cuckfield park. It famously redirected the London to Brighton railway which would most conveniently follow the path of the motorway that is in place today, but the Lord of Cuckfield park said, “not in my back garden” and so a farming hamlet called Haywards Heath was uprooted and a railway placed there instead. It’s now a bigger town than cuckfield. Even more impressive in its arrogance, Cuckfield was once the only independent state in the country in the 1960s and I believe the only ever in history. There weren’t specific borders as such, but essentially they considered themselves like states in the USA and genuinely had their own passports. If you were a resident of the era, your passport was no longer British it was a Cuckfield passport. Mental. Here I am now, with Nitty manny who has been a regular local crackhead for the last 23 years, his mate Steve who joined in the last 14 years. We got another Steve who used to be the bad boy coke dealer with a big fat bodykit supra.. he has a bicycle and a dog now and I only ever see him out of his house at 2 times a day. 11am and 4 - 6pm. There’s another coke dealer whose name I do not know, we had the first of the youth to turn crackhead Joe who I remember coming up to me at my first job in the town at an Icelands (of course the only supermarket in the local area to accept my application was Icelands lol) and he only brought jelly and angel delight, I asked if his niece was coming over or something and his response was “I’ve been so fucked off gear the last 9 days I can’t eat and so I gotta make a drink out of this” as though this would be common knowledge. My neighbours are also what I’d call, British red necks. They don’t really do much, but sit on their porch with 5 unwashed jack russels that don’t get to leave the council house garden yapping away like mad at anyone who comes by. Anyone who says nout gets an earful with an angry redneck in full camo talking about how many guns he has inside. He’s been doing this ever since I can remember. Lots of houses have been brought by private investment and re rented out, and the longest lasting of any of these people are an American couple who bless them had no idea what they got into and they were here for 6 years.. tried 2 houses as well. It didn’t improve their situation. I’ve not seen them since. Yet somehow, despite all the chaos on this road, they also decided it would be a great idea to move the primary school here in the 80s as well. It borders the flats which house the crackheads. I’m not lying, the fence literally borders the field. I remember playing in the summer in the fresh cut grass, and finding a crack pipe. 4 years old was never so good! I’ve just seen nothing but shite since I was born and I’m close to giving up lol.
oh yeah for sure, people definitely do get looked down on for living in council houses
This is happening in the US too. Practically no middle class left. My family used to be mid to lower middle class depending on the economy. Now we are below the poverty line. And I keep seeing all these million dollar homes being built everywhere. Who can afford these? Not most people so they're being pushed out to "rougher" areas. These kids who join the gangs aren't bad. They see no options and no way out. It's almost like there's a correlation between poverty and crime! It seems like this is happening in a lot of countries.
No, the kids joining gangs are bad. And the government screwing the population to benefit the rich, is also bad. Stop making excuses for evil criminals who terrorise the poor but have no smoke for the rich.
Great stuff mate, subscribed and looking forward to see what you make next.
Couple of things not covered. Greater London council built large council estates outside London to relocate Londoners completely from the city ie the old dean estate Camberley Surrey. They would use the tactic of intent to redevelop an area to blight an area and crash property values. It was and is one of the biggest thefts of public assets in living memory.
I live in one of those high-rises, in what was considered one of my city's top 10 most dangerous streets in 2017-2018. Things haven't gotten much better lately. It sucks hearing about murders and all sorts of anti-social behaviour happening nearby. It sucks being somewhat emo/goth in chavland, mind you better now than I know it was for others in the past.
Can't complain too much though. Council have been refurbishing the buildings recently so that's been nice - even if the works are frustrating at times it's better than neglect. Our bin chute is now big enough for black bin bags so that's a step up. Hopefully soon they'll evict my neighbour so that I can enter the hallway without having to hold my breath.
Attributing the deterioration of housing estates solely to Brutalist architecture may not be entirely just. It’s the underlying incentive system that warrants scrutiny. As you’ve highlighted, the government’s policy of permitting queue-jumping has inadvertently undermined the value of the estates, leading to their neglect and degradation. This policy misstep, rather than the architectural style itself, seems to be the more significant factor in their decline.
There are secondary problems too, the sole existence of the "naughty kids" points to problems in society that need fixing. The house prices that caused home ownership declines as well as sub-par housing to exist and sell for big money points to regulatory problems.
These aren't easy problems to fix, and no government wants to fix them because they aren't incentivised to do so. The fixes are long term fixes and politicians don't like doing these because these fixes don't win them votes for the next election simply because the results don't come quickly.
We are almost doomed to fail before we can fix things.
Lastly I am amazed that Britain does high-rises so badly, I've experienced wonderful 50 floor high building complexes in the Philippines that are great places to live with incredibly facilities. They have pools and gyms, good parking, and they are immaculately clean too.
It's not the building... It's the people in it
I think a good sequel to this video would be a video on grenfell the way Teresa May dealt with it was full on shit blows my mind how the torries really see estates as burdens on the country
Expose the non whites who fraudulently claimed they lived there for money
I checked the comments to see if anyone else was thinking covering Grenfell would be worthwhile. Glad to see I was not alone in my thinking.
yes mate i agree. the story needs telling
They are a burden
..and how there were barely any actual British people living in that massive block of council housing.
Man, the editing keeps getting better and better, nice work Jimmy.
Wouldn't mind a list of the soundtrack btw
I pay more rent than what a mortgage would cost but can’t apply for a mortgage 🤷♂️
It’s MAD
Excellent video. As a five-year-old in 1960 I visited an aunt London. Grey, featureless flats separated by bomb sites. For the first time in my young life I felt bereft.
Vice did a really good documentary on how a lot of these estates are in fact perfectly fine, but tennants are being evicted anyway for future projects with the buildings still remaining empty for years. Social cleansing at its most bare.
I can't remember the name but it was a 6 parter set in Stratford.
social? nah. ethnic? yes. send them home.
This history of modern Britain and how the politicians have fucked us over is an incredible watch and should be taught more in school as it’s far more relevant than something like Henry VIII. I didn’t grow up in an estate but my dad did and the money from buying that allowed me to also get on the property ladder but only through inheritance. It’s really important to understand where we came from as a non political class and how easily what we see as basic utilities can be easily taken away from us.
Great video as always dude! Would really love to see a further video about Grenfell and the response from Theresa May and the government at the time
This was so good man. Amazing work, super digestible information!
My parents live outside of London, but I have family there. When I was younger we'd usually drive to visit them. At one point in the journey we'd go across a flyover next to a high rise block. One year when we took the drive, the block was covered in grey sheeting with remembrance messages printed on it. I remember hearing about the Grenfell fire on the news, but I had no idea that was the same place we used to drive past. Seeing it made it feel a lot more real.
The modern Wests housing situation is the result of 80 years of constantly growing bureaucracy, housing laws, zoning laws, labor and union laws, cost of materials, awful social engineers and architects who designed hideous concrete monstrosities instead of beautiful smaller houses/flats, inflation and, since the 90s, mass immigration - importing way more people than we have the capacity to support.
There's also the problem of building these concrete eye-sores that people get crammed into, and the people living in them don't own them, so they have no stake in them - they don't care. The place is an ugly, depressing place and they have no stake in it other than sleeping there, so what do they care if nothing gets fixed, or there's graffiti everywhere or it goes to crap? They stop caring, and it shows.
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No it's not lol. What do union laws have any impact here? Nonsense in service of your political agenda. Smaller houses and flats are not the solution. They are nonsense and garbage. They provide less housing, which increases pricing.
You're exactly the problem that's destroying these cities.
Yeah, nothing to do with the horrendous social policies of Thatcher and the corruption of the Blairites and Tories afterwards!
And importing a city's worth of people (That are undesired and incompatible) into a country that has no housing supply doesn't help.
Great video, well put together and really interesting thanks
Superb documentary! Very well researched and factual. We live in an ex council house, when we bought it approximately 19 years ago it was about the only type of affordable property with quite a large garden. We are the 3rd owners since the original council tenants who took up Maggie's offer.
This doc took a turn from interesting to chillilng. I"m in the worst real estate market in the world right now (Toronto canada) and this is exactly what we're repeating right now. Canada, like the UK is a collection of 1% rich land owners and 99% disenfranchised disillusioned angry individuals. We dont belong to this country so we dont give a shit about it. The educated and the wealthy are leaving the country. Middle class is now poor and living in poor old run down apartments from the 70's and foreign investors are dumping their corrupted gangster country money in the real estate here. Its awful. What I noticed about Toronto is that when the economy gets bad, the more the kids end up killing eachother in the poor parts of town. Shootings every night. It's like a canary in the coal mine
I doubt your analysis, there is, I hope a middle class that still exists in Canada, because if the middle class is wiped you are in South American situation. The problem with Canada is Trudeau, a bullying ideologue pushing forward policies that benefit no one but his leftist cronies.
Excellent video, mate. Thanks you for your hardwork and dedication to the craft!
My pleasure! it's great learning about all this stuff as I make these videos
The Genesis song - ‘Get ‘Em Out By Friday’ was written about this very subject and even references the tower block of flats in Harlow. Peter Gabriel was ahead of the curve when he wrote the lyrics to that song.
What a fantastic and informative piece of journalism. Well done!
Great video!
Honestly, when I moved to the UK in 2019 from Germany, I knew that housing in the city was f**ked. But after having lived here for 5 years now, I still don't understand why so many people actually want to live here. If it weren't for my job, I would be aaaaaaaaaaanywhere else in this beautiful country. Somehow London - similar to NYC - is one of those places where everyone agrees it's shit, but then the second you express some sort of criticism, they all jump up to defend their "amazing" city. To me it often feels like people have built their own prison (= London), and are now proudly defending it.
I earn more than twice the national average salary in the UK and I (even if I wanted, which I don't) couldn't even begin to think about purchasing any sort of home in London. I don't know how families that live in 30k do it.
I won't pretend to know what the solution to this problem is, but it strikes me as obvious that you could start by doing a few things - and keep in mind I am a true libertarian, so you know it's bad when I am calling for regulation:
1) Houses and flats cannot be empty. If some investor or bank or whoever build or purchases homes, they cannot remain empty. They cannot be sold to some other investor for them to just hold it for a few years and then sell it off to someone else, while nobody has ever actually lived in that place. If this happens, there should be a law in place which would force those people to give up the property and sell it.
2) I think there needs to be a different way of evaluating a property's value. We all know that the prices we are seeing in and around the city are completely inflated and not at all representative of the actual value of said property. It's like you say "London" and boom you get a 200-300k premium on top instantly. I've done quite a few house tours with my real estate agent friend over the past few years in London, and my god most of those properties were shocking (both flats and houses), and yet they were sold at 400k+ on the market... absolutely crazy.
3) We need to create some sort of incentive that will help decentralize the UK. I get that everyone wants to be here and all the companies are here, but this just isn't sustainable. I am usually very much against subsidies, but I do think if we created proper incentives and created the infrastructure, it would be worth enhancing other regions of the UK and take pressure off of the Greater London Metropolitan Area. Similar I guess to what the "Levelling Up" scheme attempted to do, but it was just a cheap and pathetic attempt without any real consequences.
4) We need to restrict the modern practice of investment funds, banks etc. buying up properties up and down the city and then renting them out to tenants. Similarly, we need to stop the practice of "leasehold" which is advertised as "property" but really is just a scam.
5) Last but not least, and this one is a very controversial one: Change the way rent prices are determined. I am all for free market, but the situation in London is completely out of hand. I would welcome a similar approach to what we do in Germany and Austria, whereby the rent a landlord is allowed to charge depends on the actual costs in terms of mortgages + utilities + surrounding areas. That way, people cannot just charge whatever they want, but they'd have to stick to costs + a factor "x". Same way that rent increases should always be tied to a solid argument, whether that's significant improvements to the flat or property, or an adjustment to real inflation.
Just a few thoughts...
I think your view is ideal, but unfortunately those that want to make more and more money have absolutely no interest in doing anything like this as it's not a benefit to them
Mass 3rd world migration not on the list?
The landlords cramming people in thing sounds disconcertingly contemporary, no?
Oh yeah the 'Landlords'.....
You Cimplistic Sunt
Lol, and ancient too.
Do you live in fairyland?
Laws requiring housing are new.
@Madonnalitta1 I didn't say it wasn't ancient. My point is, it's happening now.
I guess u ignored the whole part of the government taking money from the middle class to build states for the working class only to then buying or compulsorily buying these properties from the poor making a profit for themselves, screwing the poor, turning the middle class into poor and propping up privately own cotporations. And u are here complaining about "landlords"...
Close the borders.
Excellent documentary you hit the nail on the head with this one x
We lost our house through compulsory purchase. So did my grandmother. It destroyed us all financially and destroyed my mother’s mental health. We weren’t given what the properties were worth. We went from owning several acres of land with fields and nut trees to living in a council house and my grandmother went from owning acres with orchards etc into a maisonette, because the council didn’t pay us enough to buy anything similar to what we had had.
I grew up for 10 years next to the Heygate and another 5 years down the road near the Aylesbury in Camberwel. My uncle lived on the Aylesbury and it was a shithole estate but he kept his place nice. I have fond memories of these estates but they were eyesores and also everything said about piss stinking stairwells, leftover paraphernalia from hard drug use etc... was all there so I'm glad they've torn it down. The people who owned properties there deserved fair deals though. And should have been locally houses until the new complexes were finished where they should have got an apartment there based on the price they received for their old property. But hey, this ain't a democracy. It's the UK. Great video again. Agree with every point you've made on this topic.
Did it start out a shit estate? Warm. Cheap. Water comes out of the taps. The rest was up to the community that moved it.
A follow up to this video could look at care in the community (or lack of it). I live in housing association property that is one of the more desirable ones in my area. Despite this and despite living in a very small block of flats we've had a statistically high amount of alcoholics living here, who often had accompanying severe mental illness. One tried their best to break in and assault me the other day. They were sectioned and after drying out for a bit will be returned to the block. I apparently shouldn't fret though because the housing association is buying me a Ring doorbell.
I grew up in Chelmsley Wood, Birmingham which I think at the time it was built was the largest council estate in Europe, it was nowhere near as bad as other estates but I can confirm life wasn't great, it's just a melting pot of all the worst people the country has to offer.
Old slums for new slums!! My flat is tiny! But not because the flat is on a small plot, there was plenty of room to build a decent sized abode, but they shaved it down to the legal minimum😔! It would just about be a minimum for a single person, but we are a couple, they designed it so the bathrooms don't have a window. Piss poor, and it was passed by the local council because they pander up to the design/build companies!!
I live in a 1920's council(now housing association) house out in the Cotswolds, I care for my ma, she's a former NHS nurse(when I was born in the North we lived in NHS staff housing, it wasn't just councils that built social housing) it's nice, roomy, pleasant, definitely got worse though, the amount of subcontracting for repairs and that is absurd.
That first house I was born and raised in, the NHS one, recently everyone got evicted from that terrace as the NHS can no longer be a landlord(sure there's some bullshit government reason for that) and they're being replaced by houses that cost half a million quid, I think the rent on the NHS was 300 quid a month for a three bed terrace.
Bravo!!!
The most honest and on the point about this issue. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
What a great educational video about public housing in London - the quality and production standards are so high - excellent - I am 80 and lived in Barking, East Ham and Ilford, so I can relate to the You Tube - thank you - cheers Richard
I always learn a lot watching your videos. Cheers!
I live in the USA where we don't have council housing. Some apartment complexes are paid to house immigrants (back in the 90's it was Bosnians now Ukrainians) or people who receive other government assistance. Usually these place are horrible to live in also. I am a home owner with less than 6 years to pay off my house (thank God) and I would never live in an apartment again given the choice. The Republic of Ireland has a bad housing situation like the UK. Ukrainians are given homes, but the locals who have been waiting for years are made to wait longer. This is causing some violence that I think will increase.
The social contract is being flagrantly violated
In America you guys version of social housing is the projects
So, our enemy again, then? Go away Yank
So, our enemy again, then? Go away Yank
@@HShango I'd be fascinated to hear any European, or any Brit, tell us why we don't see this being said by any of them? Well, apart from, it seems, myself? I'd expect to read thousands saying this? As when you're speaking the truth, no matter if you're the only one speaking the truth?, you'll always be right, while the rest, (regardless of how many), will always be wrong.
And the only real truth today is, it's the Americans themselves who, really do need to learn, and more importantly they all need to understand, that no matter where anyone's loyalty may lie?, that we, (the people), never support wrong over right, but we should always be willing, and prepared, to stand up, and fight for, right, over wrong!
The Americans completely misunderstand this today, and it's driving us all to Nuclear war. These Americans really do believe, that supporting your own country, (no matter what), is the patriotic thing to do. Really, quite unbelievably, this is exactly what many of them believe!
Only, that's so far from patriotism, It's not even close, but it is the complete opposite of patriotism, it's treason, and it's outright treachery! So, why do we see so many Americans only being traitors against themselves, and against Europe? It really can only be, because, they don't actually know, or understand what patriotism actually is!
To the rest of the world, when, and if, we ever found out that our own government was breaking International law, (doing illegal things against another country and their people), then being 100% (against) our own country/government is known throughout the entire world, as being patriotic! (Well, apart from the USA).
No patriot, would ever support his own country, (if he ever knew his own country was doing illegal wrongs against another country and their people), because doing so, would be, in effect, no different from supporting the corruption, supporting the terrorism, supporting the brutal murder of innocent people, and supporting their own government breaking International law! And that's no different from supporting your very own country's demise! - And that's known as treachery, not patriotism!
This enormous mistake, they all continue to make, also comes down to morals, ethics, and a reasonable education, as surely, we all understand right from wrong, above all else?, and we should also understand the importance of truth, and only ever want to hear the truth!
Well, the undeniable truth, is, that it's the American people themselves, who are all at fault, and responsible for all of these troubles today, as I'll explain (though I shouldn't need too, we should all know and understand this).
In 2015, Russia exposed the US government (to the American people), and to the entire world, for supporting terrorists in Syria! And that forced the US government, (to admit to the American people) and admit to the whole world, they had recruited - trained - armed - supplied - protected - paid - and used, brutal terrorists, the “Free Syria Army”, in Syria, (sorry, the Americans like to use the term "moderate" head chopping so-called rebels, and it's only terrorists, to the rest of this world, pardon me, my mistake).
Yet, not one of them has ever condemned it, or done the right thing, and stood up against it, or even protested against it, let alone start to demand it stops, (as every other society on earth, would be doing, if any of our governments were forced to admit what the USA admitted). We'd all be out on the streets in the millions, bringing our countries to a standstill, if any of our governments had admitted what the US government did.
So, It just seems, that today, these Americans must feel that's below them all, (or something just as self-righteous, cowardly, and ignorant). I guess, those lives, just don't matter? And far from seeing, anyone of them, protest against it? What is the reality, and what have we all really seen, (since they all found that out)? We've seen millions of them, cheering their criminal presidents, and we've seen millions of them chanting USA USA USA, (just like the Nazi's of the 30s). And we have never seen a single American stand up against it, let alone, start to demand it stops, why not? This really does need to be answered?
2018... Teresa May announces British strikes on Syria, within 3 hours, literally hundreds of thousands of people are stood outside Parliament protesting against it.
2018, Emmanuel Macron announces French strikes on Syria, later that evening in Paris, hundreds of thousands of people are protesting against it.
2015, Russia exposes the USA to the American people and the entire world for supporting and supplying terrorists in Syria, and still, 9 years later, man! Not one American has even condemned it, let alone stood up and protested against it!
These people really don't even seem to know, or understand, that the only society we've ever seen do this before, (throughout modern history), an entire society not even bother to stand up and protest against their own government's admitted criminal murder and killing of innocent people, (once the people found out), was indeed, Nazi Germany 1933-1945! That's the only time in modern history, the people of any society, have done (or not done), what these Americans are today. They clearly, and without any doubt whatsoever, have no morals, and as for any kind of understanding of ethics?, you're joking, they'd all need to look up what ethics are!
Also, this is just another truth! Just another truth, that seems to be forgotten by all of them today, but what was the most asked question, after WW2, a question asked all the way into the early 1980s?
"Why did the German people do nothing"?
What's worse, is, that we can understand today, why the German people did what they did, they were starving to death with the harshness of the Versailles treaty, and dying in large numbers during the great depression, so quite naturally, they'd of supported absolutely anything that offered them hope!
These Americans have absolutely no such excuse! And this is the biggest problem facing the rest of us, in this world today, it is the biggest problem, the rest of us, have ever faced in our lifetimes!
Truth will always come out, and it must always be said, and that truth today, is, It's the American people themselves, who are all responsible for all of this trouble today -- Obviously, because it's up to all of them, to stand up and start demanding their criminal government stops all of this! Nobody else can do that, only they can! But the huge problem we all have, and we all face, today, is, that none of these Americans will do a thing.
Even basic principles seem to elude these people today! Principles like, the (people) of any society, only ever need to remember, that the easiest way to figure out the right from the wrong in any likely oncoming, or future war scenario, is to just ask yourself what you'd be fighting for?
Because it's the answer to that question, that should always be showing you, whose right, and whose wrong. For example, if the Americans just asked themselves, that if the USA went to war against either Russia or China, what would they be fighting for? And then just ask themselves what the Russians, or the Chinese, would be fighting for?
They'd come to find, that both the Russians and the Chinese, would be fighting for their own country's freedom! While the Americans would only be fighting for attempted American global tyranny, (and that's no different from Nazi Tyranny). How Ironic!
That's what they're all, in effect, supporting today, and if they really can't see that?, well all I can say to that, is, the Nazis were just like that, and they all claimed they couldn't see it either!
The Americans will all be seen by history, as the Axis powers, trying for American Tyranny over the world. While the Russians, the Chinese, and much of the rest of the world, will be seen by history as the allied powers, fighting against this clear attempted American tyranny, and fighting for their own freedom.
But tell us, will it be all the Americans paying for their own lack of morals, their own lack of ethics, their own stupidity, that sees them, once again, swallowing dangerous, yet remedial propaganda claims, and really obvious lies?
Or will it actually be, all of Europe and the UK, who are, without doubt, going to pay for it, well? Who? Suicidal comes to mind.
Make of that, what you will, but again, it's just more of that good old thing known as, the truth, honesty, and the reality.
brilliant thanks, great research and implementation
keep on keeping on
I've just been binging these videos like mad. Great stuff!
Not all council housing in the UK is bad. I live in a council flat now, it's literally in the middle of nowhere but it's a nice middle of nowhere. It's a nice area it's very green, nice neighbours, a nice pub near by, a grocery store, a bus stop and basically a very nice place. But yes it doesn't compare with the dangers and crimes taking place in shady council housing in the big cities such as London. I'm very gratefull and I 'm thanking God everyday for being alive and for everything that I have. If you're oke with getting a council flat in a area that is in a smaller town it's alright. UK is great overall at least the government tries. And yes life is not necessarily easy and fair but I'm the living proof that if you really really want to make something of yourself you can! I'm just very happy and gratefull I'm currently looking for work but again never had issues in getting work here in England:) Unfortunately some places are bad and some people indeed abuse and take advantage of the benefits systems and yes indeed there are many people who really don't want to work or to study and are up to no good. However for me it works because I come from a dark place, Romania is a very very rough place so for me it's very easy to be happy and again very very very grateful. Thanks UK! 🇬🇧
Immigration tribunal hearing?needing evidence or something?
Cool, when did you first come to England?
@frieda3447 I'm actually honest and no. Almost in my 40's and never had any kind of criminal record nor here nor in my country. This is actually how I feel. But yes for me it's easy because I have something way worse to compare it. For you British people all that you have here is great well except the weather and it's again perfectly normal to take it for granted.
@@lascar-gabrielmindrila1330 tell that to those sleeping on the streets.
I was on waiting list for council housing for over 10yrs. Now they just scrubbed it clean and left me out.
I'm so sorry mate. That's why I'm saying I feel lucky and grateful. Where do you live what city?
The footage at the end is the town centre of my hometown in SW England - appalling, severe lack of social housing and closing amenities, misspent funding through the council, yet houses are extortionate to buy
Damn. I'm in the SW and it's still pleasant where I'm at. I'm surprised to hear that's in my neck of the woods. I thought we were a bit luckier than other regions of England. Obviously not entirely the case.
9:39 West London Hood Mozzart Estate brings me back mad memories.
Full disclosure... I saw the thumbnail and assumed it was some kind of 'GB News' style "hit piece" about urban decay as the basic for bringing back the death penalty... the kind of thing the google algorithm throws up every once in a while.
I'm really really glad I was too lazy to click away after a 3 seconds. This was funny, insightful, relevant and informative journalism.
Thank you. 👍
House price increase has nothing to do with the millions of people who have come into the country since the mid 90s . nothing at all don't worry about it.
Big ups, truth well edited sir.
I grew up on the haygate in london. Watched it in turn from english to Irish, i remeber the block stairwells always smelling of bleach, weekly rota for who cleans the balcony. Was spotless. Heroin changed all that.
I like this vid. Good insight. I bought my council flat the 80's and then sold it for a reasonable amount to some one that was not a property developer or company. Sell it to your children for a reasonable amount and stop the greediness.
Nigels, who else!
Jimmy, I've been watching your videos for a long time now and I have to say that your videos have gotten so good. Keep up the good work!
I appreciate that!
This helps put a lot of the situation around housing in perspective thank you
Grew up on an estate myself in the early 2000’s which was initially a middle class area after it got built in the post war.
All the kids knew each other pretty much. Most of us would meet up on the field daily to play footy. Not sure how the crime rate was in the area as I was lucky enough to live on the quieter side of the estate
Though, I’m 22 now and the estate has changed drastically since I grew up there. 2019 I believe it was when the police listed it as a no go zone for tourists and folks in general who don’t live there. And that’s because of how it suddenly became a shit show just out the blue. It’s to the extent the fire brigade tend to ask for police to come with them if they’re responding to a call on the estate. A taxi firm in the city don’t pick you up nor drop you off there anymore, bus windows are commonly smashed with rocks and fires are common on the estate
Came to see my parents Monday last week and saw some teens on a maroon moped without helmets. Pretty self explanatory it was stolen. 20 mins later I’m on the field nearing my parents house and I see that same moped burning on the field next to already 3 prior burn patches on the field from the last two weeks alone. Following day one of the containers full of old football gear was set on fire for a 2nd time.
Also worth noting the field had gypsies commonly entering on to the field, so the several councils which own the field had ditches fitted into it after them huge all lego bricks weren’t stopping them. Not even a week after they got put in and the ditch already has heaps of trash, burnt bikes and motorbikes and fuck knows what else.
The whole estates is a shit show now and it was coincidentally after the youth club got shut down.
For now it’s just teens and lil kids being a nuisance. Won’t be long till post code wars on each side of the estate become a thing