story 3 has me speechless. “my bf doesn’t want to take me out on dates and invest in us bc he would rather find other women online but we have an amazing relationship” WAKE UP!!!!!
To the sweet girl who is in a long distance relationship. I admire you for going to therapy for abandonment issues but as someone who also has major abandonment issues I always made it clear I need a man who comes home for dinner every night. I need him sleeping next to me. As sad as I feel saying this, you need a present partner even if it’s for a little while so you can understand the difference. I hope you get ALL the happiness you deserve. ❤
27:49 I hope that she understands that this man is going to cheat on her if she does continue on with this relationship. He is premeditating cheating on her and asking for permission first. He is very clearly told her that she is not enough for him and she needs to believe him and leave him. The only thing worse than wasting 5 years with somebody is wasting 5 years and one day
If he’s already on Tinder, because of the mention of spending money on Tinder Gold, then he IS cheating. He’s emotionally cheating NOW. And it will progress whenever he wants if to, if it hasn’t already.
Story3: he’s got one foot out the door and keeping u around for comfort and not making a big change. He wants to see if there’s someone else but keep u along just incase. That means ur not his person. Cuz he would know. Especially after all the time u have been together
Story nr 5 - I would not called the friend a victim, because there isn't anything suggesting that she is in abusive relationship. He didn't want to have that purse on the table, frankly I personally would never ever put my purse or bag on a table or counter in anyone's home (beside my own). I think it is rude or bad etiquette. I don't put a purse on table in restaurant either. But certainly not when I am a guest in someones home. Yes, he could ask her to move it, but maybe didn't want to inerrupt them or he just focused on getting it away and didn't thought it can trigger her, if he moves it away. Maybe even felt awkward to teach a grown up person basic manners, that you don't slam your damn purse on someone's table when you are a guest. But she reacted very rude, even by her own description. And made a very disrepectful move to slam it back on table? WTH? And if he had a bad day - he just lost his patience and yelled, because got disrespected in his own home by a rude guest. As his partner said - he doesn't react like that usually. Why we asume she was lying? Maybe he really doesn't react that way, but had a bad day and met someone who behaved like entitled ill-mannered dushbag. PS: the video with their engagement could be a way to say "yey, we too!" - attemtp to relate. I don't know. Unless she asks him or at least her friend, we won't know why he sent that video. He probably isn't very good communicator, but it is a huge leap to say therefore he has to be abuser.
Setting purses on tables and counters is a normal thing where I’m from lol mainly because of dogs! So why would he think to put her purse right where the dog can get to it and tear it up? I doubt he knows anything about “purse etiquette” and was just being rude. He shouldn’t touch her things without saying something. He could’ve even said he was moving her purse real quick or just asked to move it, and that could’ve changed everything. But instead, he touched her property and obviously didn’t care what she thought about it. His rudeness is what started the argument. You don’t just grab someone’s purse like that
@anantea I'm glad someone else interpreted this the way I did! I agree with everything you said. This girl screams main character syndrome. First of all, she shouldn't just assume she knows what he was thinking or his intentions. I don't understand why she immediately interpreted the proposal video as something negative. I wonder if she would have felt the same if her friend had sent it. Maybe the video was only on his phone, and she asked him to send it. Maybe he sent the video sincerely with good intentions, letting the video speak without words to celebrate that all four of them are now taking this huge step in their lives. They're happy to be able to celebrate and be at her wedding and to have them share their special day with her and her fiancé too. Either way, she literally _just_ FaceTimed them about it. They gave their congratulations already. It's not like she texted her friend, "We're getting married!" and he felt compelled to directly text her the video as a way to "one-up" his fiancée's friend. I'm sure he doesn't spend much time thinking about her to begin with. The immediate jump to "He's stealing my spotlight" is a bit extreme. As for the bag... He's a guy. I don't think the fringes were even something he noticed or thought about when he put it on the cage. I'm sure it snagging didn't cross his mind. Honestly, I probably wouldn't think of it either. The attitude she gave him when she moved the bag back and stared him down is aggressive and makes her seem like a very entitled only child who is used to getting her way. This guy is right - she's being rude and disrespectful. I can _feel_ her look. 😂 Whether she exaggerated his reaction or not, he's allowed to be upset. Maybe he didn't react the best way, but we're all human. It's not like he knows about her past abusive relationships or her triggers. That's ridiculous to put on him. Maybe if she has a pattern of behavior like this, he was just fed up. Then she goes on to assume her friend is covering up an abusive relationship of her own when her friend told her multiple times there's no issue, yet she keeps inserting herself into her friend's personal life and relationship with her partner. Her friend was probably exhausted from all the unnecessary drama that this girl wouldn't let go of. I can see how that would stress her out, especially with the baby and the strain it was probably putting on her relationship with her fiancé. That's more than likely why she needed a break and time to focus on her family. Maybe behavior like this is why she has problems making and keeping close friends. 😬
Story 3. Girl leave. Went through the same situation with my ex. We opened it up, and he broke every single boundary I set. After 2 years, I found out he was messing around with his ex the entire time, which was my first and most important boundary. & I thought we were in a “good relationship” too. He probably has somebody else in mind already.. If you want a ring, go somewhere you’re wanted and appreciated. This man will not give it to you. He just wants somebody to be there for him while he does whatever he wants & you’re falling for it
Sometimes it’s like they take the boundaries you set and are like “hey actually, that sounds fun. Let me try that”. Disgusting. I’m sorry that happened to you, but glad he’s an ex!
Story 3: in the movie How To Be Single. She wants a break to be on her own and grow, be independent. But when she decides she’s ready to get back together w her dude, he’s already found a new girlfriend. He says something to the effect of “I didn’t need to go on a break to know I wanted to be with you” The same applies here: If OP’s dude doesn’t already know he wants to be with her…. And he ‘needs to explore other girls’ bodies’…. Then he is NOT the one for OP. Bc she is NOT his first choice. OP should RUN.
yep definately. I hope she watches this and listens. Or maybe she`s left already we don`t know when she submitted the question. If he says he`ll commit he`ll lie for sure
Story5: u didn’t like her fiancé, so ur sensitive to things he does. Men don’t understand purses and where not to put, or fringe issues. U were the one who blew up on him, and yes in his home. Then u were mad he reacted and u expect him to apologize. U started it. And u claim u were in a verbal abusive relationship. Have u learned by that relationship bad habits and now react somewhat like that ex? As a woman I NEVER put a purse on my table. Bottom of a purse is super dirty. He could have communicated better, but u were the original loose canon. Then u tried telling ur friend her relationship isn’t ok, and while she is prego. All cuz u have feelings.
Also, hate to play devil’s advocate buuuuut. The way this all went down. Maybe u consider that ur past relationship maybe u approached issues in the wrong way and then that ex responded in also incorrect way. But maybe it wasn’t all just cuz but maybe brought on by how u were treating that person. Some ppl are only toxic with toxic ppl. Some ppl can bring the worst out of ppl.
@@jazzyj6368I’m also thinking this. Both are at fault for sure. Also thinking her trigger with an abusive ex should not be projected onto her friends relationship. I’m not saying her feelings are valid but maybe she feels supper triggered by certain things and now hates her friend bf because of it ? Idk
She over reacted but he, as a man, should not be screaming at and verbally abusing a woman. That is not ok. Ever. He should have just asked her to leave. He had no right to purposely try to frighten and intimidate her. The way he treats women is a red flag. I would be disgusted and frightened if my partner yelled in the face of one of my female friends
As someone who was raised incredibly financially insecure and watched multiple women be financially abuses by their spouses. Separate accounts all the way. We both have access to account if needed and are "upon death recipients". It has nothing to do with trust we are each others best friend and are nearing 15 years together. Each relationship is different but I think it's a slippery slope when combining finances.
Story 5: Yeah, the guy doesn't sound very great, exploding like that. But honestly, if someone made a fuss because I moved their purse from my table to another place, I'd be pissed, as well. I would absolutely not ask for permission to move something that's on my table in my house. I'd probably apologize for the fringe hanging into the doggy box but definitely not for moving it.
Honestly, I think ESH. Sounds like the woman has a chip on her shoulder about the finance and was not a respectful guest. At the same time, he could have asked, out of respect, if he could move her stuff. That’s what I’ve always done, and it just feels like the right thing to do. He also WAY over reacted, which I think is the bigger issue, but she should have let the purse thing go or been more civil about it.
Me too. Slamming the purse down in my house. I’d be annoyed too. What if she has a problem with him and makes it very known so now they have this tension between them? At the end of the day, you don’t have to love your friend’s partner or to approve. That’s very controlling. It’s not your relationship. Just be friends with your friend and that’s that. Also I’d hate if my friend kept venting to me about how she hates my man. So I’d suggest not doing that if you want to continue that friendship
Idk I have mixed feelings, if someone took my stuff and moved it, I wouldn't make a fuss BUT I would find it disrespectful. I have been to friends' houses where something like this happens and usually either my friend or their partner asks politely, "Can I move X to X place" or "do you mind moving X to X place" and of course I say yes. They don't just grab your personal item and do it their self without asking. However, what I would have done if I was in her position is not say anything in the moment and later on text or call my friend and let her know that I found it disrespectful and to just let him know if next time you or him can just let me know and I will gladly move it to a place you would like me to move it to.
Story 5. The way she reacted to her purse being moved was uncalled for. Her slamming her purse down could have been a trauma/sensory trigger for him and that's why he over reacted to her over reaction. They were both in the wrong. Yes it was rude of him to move her purse. Instead of slamming it and telling him not to touch her stuff, she should have explained why she was upset and told him to just ask her to move it next time. Calmly explain your feelings and come up with a solution. They are both the asshole honestly.
I've been in an abusive consoling relationship. And I've also been in a relationship with someone with a mild form of undiagnosed autism who doesn't understand all social ques and etiquette. Sometimes they can look similar from the outside looking in. My ex-husband is on the spectrum and stuff like this would happen all the time. We would have a conversation later about how what happened was unacceptable. He would realize his mistake and fix it how ever it needed to be fixed. My abusive ex was an asshole who was never wrong and couldn't have conversations about his issues. That's the difference.
@@twylavandonagree. It is never acceptable for a man to scream in a woman’s face. He wanted to intimidate and frighten her with his size and voice. And he did exactly that. The way he treats women who aren’t his partner is a massive red flag. I would be disgusted and scared of my partner if he did this to a woman. And if he refused to apologise for how he treated this woman, there would be no coming back from that for me
For the girl in the long distance relationship, I was in one. I in Texas and he in Germany. We were long distance for 2 years, trips back and forth when possible, video chats daily for a little while, longer on weekends. we went thru it, it was hard, so hard. I also felt that he wasn’t taking my feelings serious sometimes, we went thru covid time in 2020 when borders were closed, depressions, anxiety, doubt,etcccc. He is now my husband, we worked together and fought together to make what we wanted and planned possible. Long distance can work, as long as you both are in the same place and work and fight for what you want, and communicate about everything. I wish you all the best. It is possible, but if he doesn’t change his actions after communication and efforts, you may need to call it. 🖤
I don’t know is that age gap actually says much… that’s only 4 years. It really isn’t a big gap at all. Everything else is huge, the small age gap isn’t bad in my opinion
Story 5: I’m a little disappointed by how anticlimactic the purse move was. I’m so used to Morgan’s stories being unhinged so I was expecting he stole money, put it in the driveway, ran it over with the car, put it in the garbage disposal, etc 😂
Story 2: NTA. He sounds extremely insecure and the fact that you were not in a relationship at the time and that still makes him insecure is crazy to me
Story 5: both the OP and the friend’s partner handled this poorly. Edit: I understand what everyone is saying about red flags with the partner but the OP was equally in the wrong. Both parties need to apologize and stop putting the friend in the middle.
I feel insane for siding with the dude in the last story, but she definitely started it. He moved your purse, so your reaction is to slam the purse down, look him in the eyes, and order him to never touch your stuff? If a friend of mine came into my fiancé's house and mistreated him like that, I'd tell her she had an apology to make as well. He didn't have to yell at her. He didn't have to react the way he did, but at the same time, if you disrespect someone - especially in their safe space - you can expect that energy returned to you. My husband has ADD/ADHD whatever, so his way of communicating with ppl is to relate. I could see him saying 'oh, the way he did this in your engagement was nice! Look how I did that when I proposed' and thinking he was reacting nicely and relating to her, only to receive a grudge that would culminate in being yelled at for moving an object a few feet? Absolutely not. I don't see the red flags or abuse, I don't think the friend is a victim, I think it's just that op's prior experience in a toxic relationship has her on edge, making assumptions she sticks with for way too long and doesn't 'forgive, forget, and move on' from an imagined slight, and treating her friend and her friends fiance poorly. Idk, maybe I'm crazy thou 🤷🏼♀️
For the last story, I have been in a similar position as the friend of someone who was with an abusive partner. Sadly, all you can do is be there for them and listen. Remind them that you care about them and they deserve only the best. Validate their feelings and concerns. It is NOT easy to get out of an abusive relationship. Sometimes they may not even realize it's abusive. If you have any personal experience being in (and getting out of) an abusive relationship, share your story with them - without being critical of where they're at. Reach out regularly and make plans to see each other. Isolation is exactly how abusers gain full control. Be their friend.
Story 4: Long-distance relationships are not for everyone, and when they do occur, both partners must fully commit, as it can be incredibly challenging. My partner and I started our relathionship while living in different countries. For two years, we couldn't meet in person, but we both felt that this relationship was something we truly needed. Personally, I struggle with expressing my feelings openly. However, during that time I had to; otherwise, our relationship wouldn't have survived. Now, almost seven years later, we are living together, and I can say that those long-distance years were the base of what we have now. We both had to compromise and work together as a team to make our relationship work. If you find yourself feeling like you are the only one putting in the effort after discussing your concerns and nothing seems to change, it may be time to reconsider your commitment to the relationship. Effective communication is crucial in long-distance. It’s not just about expressing your feelings; it’s equally important to listen and be empathetic towards your partner's emotions and for what you wrote your partner is not considereing them
Jerry inserting his joke at 18:40 is my favorite thing all year since I started watching FKS (I'm a newer member of the THT fam, but instant subber & daily binger already). 🤣🤣 I might've made a similar joke myself if I was a guest on this story (lol cue whimsical daydream sequence) but his delivery & timing was Jerry Gold. 😂🤌✨️
Purse girl is getting WAY too much credit IMO. She is not a victim and I have a feeling it's a card that she plays a lot. I don't think it's rude to move someone's purse when it's in the way in your home. Moving it wasn't the problem. The fact that it's in bad condition is the problem. Therefore, it's her obligation to make sure that it's placed somewhere where it won't be in the way and where it wont get further damaged - if that's what she wants. She was very rude to him in his house. I would get mad too. She admitted that she slammed the purse down. I don't think that's all that happened. I don't think that's all she did. I have a feeling she is a lot more culpable than she is letting on. Then she want's to act like she is such a victim of his abuse. PLEASSEE!
Just started the ep but I’m commenting first bc I love watching/listening to you guys. Always so happy to see a new episode posted and can’t wait to hear what advice will be given. I think this show makes a lot of people think more deeply and be better equipped for conflict. I’m 35 now and I’ve been thru a lot in my life. My family is the reason I’m where I am now.. in a relatively comfortable life. Now I’m currently questioning if and when my marriage will end (I want it to… but it’s hard to make that decision/pull the trigger bc there’s no going back) and what the future looks like for me and my 2 little girls. When I finally act on it.. the despair of divorce with a revengeful person will be a tie with another very hard time of my life which was recovering from addiction. We all seem to come out of hard times with more wisdom, empathy and strength. But I still get a lot out of these episodes and 3 of your opinions and advice on these different issues and scenarios people write in about. I’m working myself up to writing in also, but it’s gonna take a lot out of me.. and I’m a little afraid of what I’m gonna get told if it’s ever chosen to be on the show lol. Gonna listen now, thanks for everything guys, I know you dedicate a lot of time here and really put your hearts into this show and Two Hot Takes.
Story 4: I married my long distance relationship. I moved to him. However, we talked almost every day. We emailed, chatted over the internet, or talked on the phone. He is not your person. Please don't tie your heart any longer to him. He isn't willing to put in the work to make this relationship work. It takes both people in the relationship to make it work. I wish you well.
For Story #3, I have been in that place before with an ex and you need to leave him NOW! You will never be enough for him no matter what you do. He will always wonder what is on the other side of the grass and he will start to try to experience it without your knowledge. You cannot be happy with someone who doesn't think you are enough. I am now with someone who makes me feel like I am more than enough. Believe me you do not want to waste your time because years later I still get on myself for spending so much time, energy, effort and money on someone who never deserved me.
Once you feel what it’s like to have someone NEVER question your worth, you’ll never want it any other way. It’s sometimes hard to believe that when you love someone so much, though. It took me a decade to leave and then I knew my current boyfriend was the one within about a month. Because he had already treated me better than my ex ever had.
@ Exactly, I was in it for almost 6 years and I wasn’t looking for a relationship afterwards but just dating around and my boyfriend and I clicked from the first date. I stalled from leaving my last relationship because I wanted to believe he can change or I was scared of the change of leaving that 6 years. But I am now wishing I left sooner because my current partner is completely different than my ex and my current partner really does prove “if they wanted to they would”. Because he does all of what my ex wouldn’t do and more.
Story 4 Im with Morgan. He either wants to/ can and will put in the work or not. He says he is sorry but his actions dont reflect that which makes his words meaningless. My dad was alot like this. He had good intentions but could never ever get to the place where any of my family trusted him or could rely on him. You don't want to be with someone who isn't pulling their weight on the team, that isn't being a partner. If Im being so honest it sounds like he is in a selfdiscovery period right now and may not be equipt to be in a relationship right now. It doesnt seem like he has the capacity to prioritize his growth and dirrection as well as his growth and full attention to his relationship. They are in different stages in life and there is nothing wrong with that. This just sounds like maybe right person wrong time or maybe for her wrong person right time.
Story 5: you guys didnt mention how she was rude about moving her purse and has talked about be rude and passive aggressive to him before. You guys are acting like its a crazy red flag to move someones purse and a sign of control??? Its not. Moving something to get it out of the way.
The second story reminded me of how the last guy I was with got so insecure and made me delete photos of my ex who I was with for 5 yrs so I’ve got a handful left that I was able to find but it makes me so upset and sad because that’s part of my story and such a large part of me and so many things we did and just memories. Well when you guys were discussing having random photos of people and just reminded me and everyday I wish there was a way to get them back because it’s just nice to look back on and all that
@@JS-0- sure, venting is fine, but it’s kind of hard to give advice to someone who hasn’t even had the conversation or communication with the person they’re writing in to complain about.
Story 3 : My husband and I were each other’s first. We were also fairly young (18/20). We have now been married for 4 years and together closer to 7. I have never once in my life considered I’ve lost out on not sleeping with other men. She needs to drop this guy asap.
In regard to the story about the boyfriend that wants to experience other women before settling down with his girlfriend... Dating generally has two motivations: Novelty and Infatuation, and Security and Love. These are generally opposed to each other in some respects. Novelty brings that feeling of discovery, excitement, and mystery in a new partner. You tend to feel move valued and receive more attention during the love-bombing honeymoon phase of the first six months of a relationship than any other time. Whereas security involves building trust, planting roots, and familiarity with your partner. Most people claim to want security, but the high you get from novelty is the stronger drive until you burn through that phase of life. Its why most people should not date seriously until they HAVE satisfied that craving for novelty. How many stories are out there about people cheating or divorcing because the grass seemed greener in the other pastures. The OP should break up amicably and let him do what he needs to do. In some ways, its good that he IS communicating this need with her. It may be relationship destroying, but better now than married with two kids and a baby on the way. He needs novelty more than security and you don't.
In response to the long distance relationship story, it’s definitely possible to make it work. It’s hard but possible. My husband and I started dating in October 2014, he left for basic training beginning of 2015 and got stationed 17 hours from me. We stayed together, I finished my degree, we got married in 2018 and he deployed 3 weeks after we got married. We have 3 beautiful kids now
Story 2: my now late husband, boyfriend at the time would blow up like that about stuff. Low and behold, he was cheating on me the entire relationship & marriage. But made ME out to be the bad guy somehow.
50:14 I’d cut my loses and find a new friend. I had a mom friend one time and our kids loved each other and we enjoyed each other’s company a lot and we’d smoke together when the kids where asleep and help watch each other’s kids so we can get stuff done and my husband does not like people but he liked her and she didn’t have a car so we’d bring her grocery shopping with us and all that and one day her ex husband came back and started raising hell and we couldn’t be friends anymore. It hurt but I knew I couldn’t be around such an abusive person because that’s exactly how my parents were and she had to defend him and take his side. Remember you are and only are her friend and they have a family together. Pray for her and move on because he will always be there and in the way. You cannot avoid him and it sucks to leave her with such a sucky guy but that is not your responsibility. I miss our friendship but I was her friend and I deserve her to be my friend or no friends unfortunately. At least you’re not a mom yet so you have so much opportunity to find someone. RUN.
Story 3: I had a similar situation, was with my ex from age 16-21. He'd never been with anyone else and would make comments about that.. but differently our relationship was going down hill as well. After awhile of it being not good I split with him and felt such a relief and freedom. Found out after we split he actually tried to cheat on me like 8 months before we broke up (but the girl rejected him lol).. definitely find someone that values you and only wants you if that's the type of relationship you want.
im 32 and jt was same for me. maybe a regional difference? we did "jinx! pinch, poke you owe me a coke!" and wed pinch and poke them. if theyre wearing blue we add "youre wearing blue, you owe me 2!" if you do that, they can talk if you just say jinx and dont do that, then they have to wait for you to say their name
The girl in story 5 started it, in my opinion. It's obvious she already didn't like the boyfriend because he sent a video of his proposal, so him moving her purse was just a reason to snap at him, and now she's confused as to why he snapped back? Yea, maybe he should have asked before he moved the purse, but it really wasn't that big of a deal imo.
Story 2: Guys, I don't know if this is the cultural difference or what, but I can't believe people are okay with what OP did. Would you really think it would be okay for your boyfriends to take and keep a picture of a girl they liked? Bcz like... 1. Why are you taking strangers' pictures? 2. Why are you keeping them even though you're in a relationship? 3. I'm not sure if she was in a relationship when she took the pictures but if she was, that's cheating on top of being creepy. Ugh, I hate saying this but this sounds like a double standart for sure. I don't think we women would be okay with weird ahh stuff like this if it happened to us but roles reversed, we call people insecure. Doesn't sit right with me :(
I think op said they weren't dating when the picture was taken. Also, the original picture was of her mother and she cropped it because the guy was behind her. That's how she's got a picture/crop of him.
she wasn;t creepy...not cheating (even with boy friend) listen to the story Ï've been with my bf for 2 1/2 years....3 years ago I went to italy and met a cute guy at a cafe" (they JUST smiled at each other and yes...felt butterflies but it's normal nervious stuff)...she didn't take pictures of the guy, he was in the back in some of her mom's pics and cropped one to sent it to a friend of hers -----------> HE'S EFFING TOXIC!!!!
Story 2: the boyfriend is for sure overreacting, however I think it's not out of control, but because OP said the random guy gave her butterflies. If I was in her boyfriend's position, I too would be hurt if my SO said that to me
He can have his feelings about it; feelings aren’t right or wrong. But he found the photo and asked the questions and it doesn’t sound like she really said too much other than explaining what the photo was. He needed to realize that his feelings weren’t her problem and that a photo from before they were dating of a guy she never even met in a coffee shop wasn’t a threat. To me, this IS over the top.
@ I realize I sounded confusing, I meant I don't think he is trying to be controlling, but his reaction is over the top for sure, and he needs to do some self reflection about why he reacted the way he does, because he jumped to immediate accusations
49:02 Y'all are acting like he threw her purse onto the dog crate. No. He just put it there. She got the hair up her butt about it and angrily moved her purse back to the table. Nothing about this story says that he put it there forcefully or purposefully so a dog would chew on it. Knowing men, that probably didn't even cross his mind. The OP seems like a bigger issue in this story than she's letting on.
So silly of me to comment about the jinx lol - but you guys are both right (at least how I grew up!) It’s jinx you owe me a soda, but you aren’t allowed to talk until you give them a soda
@@alexshaw8167 I’ve definitely heard of that version too, even that your name has to be said three times before you can talk 🤣 just kids changing the rules I’m sure. we weren’t allowed soda when I was a kid, so we just had to get each other a cup of juice or water instead haha
Story 5 there’s definitely fault on both sides. Being upset and slamming your purse down because he moved it was being the aggressor and not everyone thinks about those things. However, how he responded was wildly inappropriate as well. I also got weird vibes from how he was described at least and saying something like “I want to take care of my family” is definitely something I would’ve said in a past relationship if my abusive bf had convinced to cut off a friend. However OP, if someone is in an abusive relationship, you attacking their partner will only push them further into that partner. The best friend a person can ever have when they’re deep in an abusive relationship (not saying that’s what this is but if it is), is being a sound board, be someone that they can open to, be an open ear no matter how judgement you want to be. Be a good friend to that person until the time comes they want to leave and then you can help where they want help but you cannot force it. The best thing you can do is continue to show up for them. Often times when you’re in an emotionally or physically abusive relationship you don’t feel like you’re able to talk about things with anyone, you’re partner has made you feel like it’s “betraying your relationship” to open up about what’s going on or what they’re doing so if they do actually open up and are immediately attacked. They’ll retreat right back into themselves and their relationship
I feel like the girl in the last story has to decide what her boundaries are and stick by them. If she decides she’s okay meddling, then talk to her friend, if she decides she’s not, then the next decision is whether or not she can move past it. Whatever choice she makes, stick by it, and own it.
If she`s worried her friend might be in an abusive relationship she should try to stay in touch and see if she notices more red flags. If she even can and he hasn`t isolated her already. Stuck home with the baby.
story three: I truly hope the best for OP. And my experience their partner will not ever be satisfied until they are able to do that, and let them because they don't see what they already have. Have only known one still to this day together couplethat experienced something like this and the break they took to "experience other people" was mutual and lasted four years. Them coming back together happened on coincidence in a coffee shop and they've now been married for almost 20 years! It's not impossible, but protect yourself and know your worth.
I did the same thing I thought that she was in the relationship with him when she took the photo of the guy and then I realized that she wasn't and was like oh never mind not the ahole.
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Story 2- Even in a relationship your allowed to think someone is cute. It all depends on HOW YOU ACT towards those feelings! Which she clearly didn't act against her relationship.
Story 5: I get that he didn’t understand purse etiquette but if you are in HIS home you could have just said “hey next time please just ask me to move it” .. IT IS NOT HER PLACE TO SLAM SOMETHING BACK ON THE TABLE. If someone looked me in my eyes and purposely put something back like that, I’d tell you to GTFO of my house too
Can we stop saying Ohh, he's a "goofball" or he's being so "goofy" when what we mean is this man is an absolute nightmare and POS?! Damn, it gets me irrationally angry to hear a word like "goofy" when someone is being a total douchebag. Call it what it is!!!! Say the real words!!! Aghhhhhhhhhhh
the jinx game changed??? when i was growing up (im 32) it was "pinch, poke you owe me a coke! if youre wearing blue you owe me two!" (and you pinch and poke them) if you dont do that part, then they cant talk until you say their name (but we just did first name) or its bad luck or is it a regional thing?
Honestly even after listening to the last story again I can’t see how the guy is solely at fault. He was on the FaceTime with his fiancée and her friend and I’m assuming considering him and his fiancée just got engaged not long before him sending the video was a way to relate. Not only that but as someone who uses my own stories in relation to others to show understand and empathy I can see how that could be seen as self centered and narcissistic. I don’t do it on purpose but that’s just how my brain thinks it’s best to show that I am truly listening and relating to the person I am talking to. I think this is what this guy does and the friend just doesn’t understand that form of communication. Not only that but we have zero other context and there are two sides to every story. Who knows how many other things this friend has done to this man for him to end up reacting this way to her. She even said herself that she did not like him already so who is to say if we are speculating that her indifference towards him hasn’t been expressed multiple times before this in other types of over reactions or slights. Also who cares why he moved the purse he did it and from the sounds of it he didn’t throw it or do anything else aggressively with it (I am a woman and I wouldn’t even think about the dog getting the strings). If he isn’t aggressively throwing around the purse or otherwise intentionally moving it so it will get damaged I don’t see an issue. I think the only reason she even really cared that he moved the purse is because she didn’t like him already. Never in my life have I ever been or ever will be upset with someone for moving my stuff in their own home. Now if I didn’t like someone and they moved my stuff I most definitely could see myself being a little upset by it however I would never slam my purse down, stare them down (form of intimidation btw), and tell them to never touch my stuff (which she alludes to the fact that she isn’t yelling for him to never touch her stuff but if she is angry enough to slam her purse on the table who knows). I agree that people in general shouldn’t scream at each other whether you are a man or a woman in the way that he screamed at her but if someone disrespected me in that way in my own home and even possibly screamed at me in my own home I would lose it too. Again especially considering the fact that we do not know how this woman has been treating him since the engagement considering her opinion of him is less than favorable. I think taking into consideration we only have one side and very little information it is a huge stretch to even assume this friend is in an abusive relationship especially when she is saying that he never yells and is TELLING her friend that just got yelled at that him doing that is uncalled for and not okay. Not only that but if he was abusing his fiancée I think it would have been a lot harder for her to tell them to stop arguing as she would be afraid of her fiancée and what he might do when the friend left. Idk that’s just my opinion though.
Sorry 3: that was my life, met him young and then he wanted an open relationship after I gave everything. I wasn’t enough. There is no going back. He poisoned what we had. You will feel whole and relieved when the last remnants of that relationship of gone. Also- I will garuntee, he’s already seeing someone. He’s cheating already he just wants to get permission to do so.
Can ANYONE tell me exactly where (I’ve been searching every platform) they got this exact cloud sofa and chair set??? Or the exact name of it so I can search it… TIA ❤
@ lol go to 4:10 she literally says $100…after that she says as the relationship progresses and you move in with each other, then you may add more $500 or $1000 to be used for rent and groceries, which is a realistic amount for rent. She wasn’t saying 500 or 1000 a month to spend on dates
S3 ideal outcome he buys a ring and commits to me? No girl run. He`s gonna cheat on you, just do it behind your back. If you don`t want to be in a real open relationship than run. This is not marriage time if he wants to see other people and spend money on tinder and dates than he wants to be single. Or you agree on an open relationship and you also date.
Story 3: Marriage is not a goal, it's a mile marker, and your partner isn't fit enough to pass that marker, and want explore restarting the race. You don't want to marry someone who isn't enthusiastic about it, otherwise your marriage will be miserable and a lot more expensive to end.
Also, marriage in your early 20s is not a good idea. Your brain isn't mature yet, and my thought process felt night and day between 25 & 26. It was like I woke up and had a clear picture of what I wanted and who I was. Its better for you and potential spouse to just wait before you legalize it
story 3… y’all just are not meant to be together. if you spend that long with someone and they still want to explore other options then you are not meant to be together. he is not in love with you and he doesn’t want to build a life together.
For these stories and Reddit ones we need to only talk about the information given. We don’t know that he’s really abusive. As the partner said he’s never done that. So clearly op actions made him fly off however he handed it really badly. Both need to apologize and move on.
I also still have pictures of my ex on my social media. I will absolutely NOT delete pictures of my kids, me looking amazing in my bikini and outfits, and beautiful exotic locations other people only dare to dream about visiting. My hubby doesn't care. We've made amazing memories together.
Hot take for story 3: If she's interested, consider exploring sexually together. Swinging, opening the relationship, dating someone together.. there's lots of options. It takes a MASSIVE amount of trust and communication, but it could be a fun way to get the ya-yas out and learn about yourselves. The fact that he's already on Tinder though, without having set boundaries or communication, really is the nail in the coffin for me.
How can you come across so intensely for the second story? Would love to see how you would act if your husband had a picture of a random girl he thought was hot and later told you he had butterflies for on your Phone…. Ridiculous
You can just skip right over it tho. They have time stamps that basically skip over the ads. Also, I’m sure they earn a lot through their partnerships.
@ yes but the purpose of paying for no advertisement is so that I could do work shut off my phone and focus on what I’m doing, not having to stop what I’m doing. Go at the timestamp skip it and continue to do what I’m doing. It defeats the whole purpose of paying for RUclips . And they are already getting paid for doing RUclips videos why does it have to inconvenience me when I already paid. It feels like a scam.
Ultimately, RUclips is the platform that gives content creators a place to get viewers. RUclips and content creators are separate stakeholders but working together is mutually beneficial, so they do. If RUclips can insert ads into content creators’ videos and take them away when you pay for YT Premium, that’s YT essentially charging you for what they bring to the table - a place a viewer (you) can conveniently come to find a massive pool of videos sorted algorithmically to their (your) tastes. What you are paying for in the RUclips Premium subscription is supporting RUclips and their service/what they bring to the table alone. Content creators receive nothing from you paying RUclips. Yet, without the work that Morgan, Justin and ‘Dad’ do, the video wouldn’t even exist. Therefore, if RUclips can benefit from not even having to make these videos themselves, yet yield massive monetary gain from adding or removing ads they insert, surely the creators themselves should be able to insert ads that ensure making these videos remains financially viable. Otherwise what’s the point? IMO it’s important to allow the creators to do what makes it viable for them to continue - including inserting their own paid ads. At least with the YT subscription you only have to watch the creators’ ads without the ones from RUclips.
Story 5: Classic abusive narcissistist. The fiancé sounds exactly like my dad. Moving the purse is about power. He moved it tonsee hownshe reacted. You saw his true self when you stood up for yourself. He is an abuser. I am sorry for your friend and her baby, but she pushed you away. Keep yourself safe.
28:57 Story 3. ❤️🩹 I had the exact same situation, early 20's, he was my first love and I after years together he wanted to go and experience other woman, so he broke up our relationship, but wanted to hook up any other day, it was really messy and painful. It was difficult for me to set boundaries so I put space between us, literally, I moved away and with time that love "dissolved". It was though but OP (if you ever read this) you need to realize, this is not your person. Take this opportunity to grow as a woman, have more experiences and to find what do you really need in a partner. Build your boundaries and prioritize yourself, you are important and your partner will never ask this of you.
Story 5 - That guy has the hots for her and he can only express it through anger lol. He probably is ashamed about something to do with the attraction, maybe bc it’s his fiancés friend, maybe she is the opposite to her friend in certain ways that he is intimidated by/ perceives her as emasculating. Either way no self centred straight man would be bothered by a woman to the point of being competitive and needing to assert himself/ is so provoked by her presence. I think the engagement caused him to feel unsettled by his desire. He put her bag on the dog crate to reinforce her status as beneath him, and her standing up to him probably turned him on as much as it enraged him lol.
Story 3: I had the exact same experience. I was with this guy from the time I was 15 till I was 22/23. He always wanted to “experience” other women. Made me always feel like I wasn’t enough. It came to a head when he fell for one of my friends. Which is a whole story I should write in about. But at the beginning of 2020, I left him. I decided to choose me and it was sad & freeing all at once. From my experience I’m yelling run! You’ll find your person. Cause I found mine 🥹
Story 5: Morgan’s advice is perfect, the husband clearly has been trying to separate her from other loved ones and it’s been working, please don’t give up on your friend 🥲 As someone who needed that friend once to help me see I had a way out when I was finally ready, please don’t give up on your friend ❤️🥰
story 3 has me speechless. “my bf doesn’t want to take me out on dates and invest in us bc he would rather find other women online but we have an amazing relationship” WAKE UP!!!!!
I was shooketh to the core
I'm still shook...
The Tinder Gold comment had me hitting the ROOF.
To the sweet girl who is in a long distance relationship. I admire you for going to therapy for abandonment issues but as someone who also has major abandonment issues I always made it clear I need a man who comes home for dinner every night. I need him sleeping next to me. As sad as I feel saying this, you need a present partner even if it’s for a little while so you can understand the difference. I hope you get ALL the happiness you deserve. ❤
27:49 I hope that she understands that this man is going to cheat on her if she does continue on with this relationship. He is premeditating cheating on her and asking for permission first. He is very clearly told her that she is not enough for him and she needs to believe him and leave him. The only thing worse than wasting 5 years with somebody is wasting 5 years and one day
If he’s already on Tinder, because of the mention of spending money on Tinder Gold, then he IS cheating. He’s emotionally cheating NOW. And it will progress whenever he wants if to, if it hasn’t already.
When Jerry said “anything less than that is a sacrifice, it’s a compromise. & you don’t compromise” gave me chills. Re played that part so many times
*snaps for dad*
Story3: he’s got one foot out the door and keeping u around for comfort and not making a big change. He wants to see if there’s someone else but keep u along just incase. That means ur not his person. Cuz he would know. Especially after all the time u have been together
Story nr 5 - I would not called the friend a victim, because there isn't anything suggesting that she is in abusive relationship.
He didn't want to have that purse on the table, frankly I personally would never ever put my purse or bag on a table or counter in anyone's home (beside my own). I think it is rude or bad etiquette. I don't put a purse on table in restaurant either.
But certainly not when I am a guest in someones home.
Yes, he could ask her to move it, but maybe didn't want to inerrupt them or he just focused on getting it away and didn't thought it can trigger her, if he moves it away. Maybe even felt awkward to teach a grown up person basic manners, that you don't slam your damn purse on someone's table when you are a guest.
But she reacted very rude, even by her own description. And made a very disrepectful move to slam it back on table? WTH? And if he had a bad day - he just lost his patience and yelled, because got disrespected in his own home by a rude guest. As his partner said - he doesn't react like that usually. Why we asume she was lying? Maybe he really doesn't react that way, but had a bad day and met someone who behaved like entitled ill-mannered dushbag.
PS: the video with their engagement could be a way to say "yey, we too!" - attemtp to relate. I don't know. Unless she asks him or at least her friend, we won't know why he sent that video.
He probably isn't very good communicator, but it is a huge leap to say therefore he has to be abuser.
Setting purses on tables and counters is a normal thing where I’m from lol mainly because of dogs! So why would he think to put her purse right where the dog can get to it and tear it up? I doubt he knows anything about “purse etiquette” and was just being rude. He shouldn’t touch her things without saying something. He could’ve even said he was moving her purse real quick or just asked to move it, and that could’ve changed everything. But instead, he touched her property and obviously didn’t care what she thought about it. His rudeness is what started the argument. You don’t just grab someone’s purse like that
@anantea I'm glad someone else interpreted this the way I did! I agree with everything you said.
This girl screams main character syndrome.
First of all, she shouldn't just assume she knows what he was thinking or his intentions. I don't understand why she immediately interpreted the proposal video as something negative. I wonder if she would have felt the same if her friend had sent it.
Maybe the video was only on his phone, and she asked him to send it.
Maybe he sent the video sincerely with good intentions, letting the video speak without words to celebrate that all four of them are now taking this huge step in their lives. They're happy to be able to celebrate and be at her wedding and to have them share their special day with her and her fiancé too.
Either way, she literally _just_ FaceTimed them about it. They gave their congratulations already. It's not like she texted her friend, "We're getting married!" and he felt compelled to directly text her the video as a way to "one-up" his fiancée's friend. I'm sure he doesn't spend much time thinking about her to begin with. The immediate jump to "He's stealing my spotlight" is a bit extreme.
As for the bag... He's a guy. I don't think the fringes were even something he noticed or thought about when he put it on the cage. I'm sure it snagging didn't cross his mind. Honestly, I probably wouldn't think of it either.
The attitude she gave him when she moved the bag back and stared him down is aggressive and makes her seem like a very entitled only child who is used to getting her way. This guy is right - she's being rude and disrespectful. I can _feel_ her look. 😂
Whether she exaggerated his reaction or not, he's allowed to be upset. Maybe he didn't react the best way, but we're all human. It's not like he knows about her past abusive relationships or her triggers. That's ridiculous to put on him. Maybe if she has a pattern of behavior like this, he was just fed up.
Then she goes on to assume her friend is covering up an abusive relationship of her own when her friend told her multiple times there's no issue, yet she keeps inserting herself into her friend's personal life and relationship with her partner.
Her friend was probably exhausted from all the unnecessary drama that this girl wouldn't let go of. I can see how that would stress her out, especially with the baby and the strain it was probably putting on her relationship with her fiancé. That's more than likely why she needed a break and time to focus on her family.
Maybe behavior like this is why she has problems making and keeping close friends. 😬
Story 3. Girl leave. Went through the same situation with my ex. We opened it up, and he broke every single boundary I set. After 2 years, I found out he was messing around with his ex the entire time, which was my first and most important boundary. & I thought we were in a “good relationship” too. He probably has somebody else in mind already.. If you want a ring, go somewhere you’re wanted and appreciated. This man will not give it to you. He just wants somebody to be there for him while he does whatever he wants & you’re falling for it
Sometimes it’s like they take the boundaries you set and are like “hey actually, that sounds fun. Let me try that”. Disgusting. I’m sorry that happened to you, but glad he’s an ex!
Story 3: in the movie How To Be Single. She wants a break to be on her own and grow, be independent. But when she decides she’s ready to get back together w her dude, he’s already found a new girlfriend.
He says something to the effect of “I didn’t need to go on a break to know I wanted to be with you”
The same applies here:
If OP’s dude doesn’t already know he wants to be with her…. And he ‘needs to explore other girls’ bodies’…. Then he is NOT the one for OP. Bc she is NOT his first choice.
OP should RUN.
yep definately. I hope she watches this and listens. Or maybe she`s left already we don`t know when she submitted the question. If he says he`ll commit he`ll lie for sure
@ exactly !
Story5: u didn’t like her fiancé, so ur sensitive to things he does. Men don’t understand purses and where not to put, or fringe issues. U were the one who blew up on him, and yes in his home. Then u were mad he reacted and u expect him to apologize. U started it. And u claim u were in a verbal abusive relationship. Have u learned by that relationship bad habits and now react somewhat like that ex? As a woman I NEVER put a purse on my table. Bottom of a purse is super dirty. He could have communicated better, but u were the original loose canon. Then u tried telling ur friend her relationship isn’t ok, and while she is prego. All cuz u have feelings.
Also, hate to play devil’s advocate buuuuut. The way this all went down. Maybe u consider that ur past relationship maybe u approached issues in the wrong way and then that ex responded in also incorrect way. But maybe it wasn’t all just cuz but maybe brought on by how u were treating that person. Some ppl are only toxic with toxic ppl. Some ppl can bring the worst out of ppl.
@@jazzyj6368I’m also thinking this. Both are at fault for sure. Also thinking her trigger with an abusive ex should not be projected onto her friends relationship. I’m not saying her feelings are valid but maybe she feels supper triggered by certain things and now hates her friend bf because of it ? Idk
She over reacted but he, as a man, should not be screaming at and verbally abusing a woman. That is not ok. Ever. He should have just asked her to leave. He had no right to purposely try to frighten and intimidate her. The way he treats women is a red flag. I would be disgusted and frightened if my partner yelled in the face of one of my female friends
@ valid
He sounds like he's on the spectrum.
As someone who was raised incredibly financially insecure and watched multiple women be financially abuses by their spouses. Separate accounts all the way. We both have access to account if needed and are "upon death recipients". It has nothing to do with trust we are each others best friend and are nearing 15 years together. Each relationship is different but I think it's a slippery slope when combining finances.
Story 5: Yeah, the guy doesn't sound very great, exploding like that. But honestly, if someone made a fuss because I moved their purse from my table to another place, I'd be pissed, as well. I would absolutely not ask for permission to move something that's on my table in my house. I'd probably apologize for the fringe hanging into the doggy box but definitely not for moving it.
Honestly, I think ESH. Sounds like the woman has a chip on her shoulder about the finance and was not a respectful guest. At the same time, he could have asked, out of respect, if he could move her stuff. That’s what I’ve always done, and it just feels like the right thing to do. He also WAY over reacted, which I think is the bigger issue, but she should have let the purse thing go or been more civil about it.
Me too. Slamming the purse down in my house. I’d be annoyed too. What if she has a problem with him and makes it very known so now they have this tension between them? At the end of the day, you don’t have to love your friend’s partner or to approve. That’s very controlling. It’s not your relationship. Just be friends with your friend and that’s that. Also I’d hate if my friend kept venting to me about how she hates my man. So I’d suggest not doing that if you want to continue that friendship
Idk I have mixed feelings, if someone took my stuff and moved it, I wouldn't make a fuss BUT I would find it disrespectful. I have been to friends' houses where something like this happens and usually either my friend or their partner asks politely, "Can I move X to X place" or "do you mind moving X to X place" and of course I say yes. They don't just grab your personal item and do it their self without asking. However, what I would have done if I was in her position is not say anything in the moment and later on text or call my friend and let her know that I found it disrespectful and to just let him know if next time you or him can just let me know and I will gladly move it to a place you would like me to move it to.
Justin needs his own show😂
He has one
@ what’s it called??
He HAD one but I don't think they make new videos for it anymore for a while now
Story 5. The way she reacted to her purse being moved was uncalled for. Her slamming her purse down could have been a trauma/sensory trigger for him and that's why he over reacted to her over reaction. They were both in the wrong. Yes it was rude of him to move her purse. Instead of slamming it and telling him not to touch her stuff, she should have explained why she was upset and told him to just ask her to move it next time. Calmly explain your feelings and come up with a solution. They are both the asshole honestly.
I've been in an abusive consoling relationship. And I've also been in a relationship with someone with a mild form of undiagnosed autism who doesn't understand all social ques and etiquette. Sometimes they can look similar from the outside looking in. My ex-husband is on the spectrum and stuff like this would happen all the time. We would have a conversation later about how what happened was unacceptable. He would realize his mistake and fix it how ever it needed to be fixed. My abusive ex was an asshole who was never wrong and couldn't have conversations about his issues. That's the difference.
But also the dude should not have blown up on her like that. I forgot to say that in my first comment.
@@twylavandonagree. It is never acceptable for a man to scream in a woman’s face. He wanted to intimidate and frighten her with his size and voice. And he did exactly that. The way he treats women who aren’t his partner is a massive red flag. I would be disgusted and scared of my partner if he did this to a woman. And if he refused to apologise for how he treated this woman, there would be no coming back from that for me
For the girl in the long distance relationship, I was in one. I in Texas and he in Germany. We were long distance for 2 years, trips back and forth when possible, video chats daily for a little while, longer on weekends. we went thru it, it was hard, so hard. I also felt that he wasn’t taking my feelings serious sometimes, we went thru covid time in 2020 when borders were closed, depressions, anxiety, doubt,etcccc. He is now my husband, we worked together and fought together to make what we wanted and planned possible. Long distance can work, as long as you both are in the same place and work and fight for what you want, and communicate about everything. I wish you all the best. It is possible, but if he doesn’t change his actions after communication and efforts, you may need to call it. 🖤
Never been this early, heyy! I’ve watched you and Morgan for a while, you guys are basically my comfort show at this point. love you guys!
Story 3 girl: leave that MAN. You started dating when you were 19 and he was 23!!! That should tell you everything you need to know. LEAVE NOW
I don’t know is that age gap actually says much… that’s only 4 years. It really isn’t a big gap at all. Everything else is huge, the small age gap isn’t bad in my opinion
Story 5: I’m a little disappointed by how anticlimactic the purse move was. I’m so used to Morgan’s stories being unhinged so I was expecting he stole money, put it in the driveway, ran it over with the car, put it in the garbage disposal, etc 😂
I hit this as soon as I got the notification! 4am where I am & I’m about to sit here and watch this!
Story 2: NTA. He sounds extremely insecure and the fact that you were not in a relationship at the time and that still makes him insecure is crazy to me
Story 5: both the OP and the friend’s partner handled this poorly.
Edit: I understand what everyone is saying about red flags with the partner but the OP was equally in the wrong. Both parties need to apologize and stop putting the friend in the middle.
I feel insane for siding with the dude in the last story, but she definitely started it. He moved your purse, so your reaction is to slam the purse down, look him in the eyes, and order him to never touch your stuff? If a friend of mine came into my fiancé's house and mistreated him like that, I'd tell her she had an apology to make as well. He didn't have to yell at her. He didn't have to react the way he did, but at the same time, if you disrespect someone - especially in their safe space - you can expect that energy returned to you. My husband has ADD/ADHD whatever, so his way of communicating with ppl is to relate. I could see him saying 'oh, the way he did this in your engagement was nice! Look how I did that when I proposed' and thinking he was reacting nicely and relating to her, only to receive a grudge that would culminate in being yelled at for moving an object a few feet? Absolutely not. I don't see the red flags or abuse, I don't think the friend is a victim, I think it's just that op's prior experience in a toxic relationship has her on edge, making assumptions she sticks with for way too long and doesn't 'forgive, forget, and move on' from an imagined slight, and treating her friend and her friends fiance poorly. Idk, maybe I'm crazy thou 🤷🏼♀️
For the last story, I have been in a similar position as the friend of someone who was with an abusive partner. Sadly, all you can do is be there for them and listen. Remind them that you care about them and they deserve only the best. Validate their feelings and concerns. It is NOT easy to get out of an abusive relationship. Sometimes they may not even realize it's abusive. If you have any personal experience being in (and getting out of) an abusive relationship, share your story with them - without being critical of where they're at. Reach out regularly and make plans to see each other. Isolation is exactly how abusers gain full control. Be their friend.
Story 4: Long-distance relationships are not for everyone, and when they do occur, both partners must fully commit, as it can be incredibly challenging.
My partner and I started our relathionship while living in different countries. For two years, we couldn't meet in person, but we both felt that this relationship was something we truly needed.
Personally, I struggle with expressing my feelings openly. However, during that time I had to; otherwise, our relationship wouldn't have survived.
Now, almost seven years later, we are living together, and I can say that those long-distance years were the base of what we have now. We both had to compromise and work together as a team to make our relationship work.
If you find yourself feeling like you are the only one putting in the effort after discussing your concerns and nothing seems to change, it may be time to reconsider your commitment to the relationship. Effective communication is crucial in long-distance. It’s not just about expressing your feelings; it’s equally important to listen and be empathetic towards your partner's emotions and for what you wrote your partner is not considereing them
Jerry inserting his joke at 18:40 is my favorite thing all year since I started watching FKS (I'm a newer member of the THT fam, but instant subber & daily binger already). 🤣🤣 I might've made a similar joke myself if I was a guest on this story (lol cue whimsical daydream sequence) but his delivery & timing was Jerry Gold. 😂🤌✨️
Purse girl is getting WAY too much credit IMO. She is not a victim and I have a feeling it's a card that she plays a lot.
I don't think it's rude to move someone's purse when it's in the way in your home. Moving it wasn't the problem. The fact that it's in bad condition is the problem. Therefore, it's her obligation to make sure that it's placed somewhere where it won't be in the way and where it wont get further damaged - if that's what she wants.
She was very rude to him in his house. I would get mad too. She admitted that she slammed the purse down. I don't think that's all that happened. I don't think that's all she did. I have a feeling she is a lot more culpable than she is letting on. Then she want's to act like she is such a victim of his abuse. PLEASSEE!
didn’t think about it like this. thanks for sharing
Just started the ep but I’m commenting first bc I love watching/listening to you guys. Always so happy to see a new episode posted and can’t wait to hear what advice will be given. I think this show makes a lot of people think more deeply and be better equipped for conflict. I’m 35 now and I’ve been thru a lot in my life. My family is the reason I’m where I am now.. in a relatively comfortable life. Now I’m currently questioning if and when my marriage will end (I want it to… but it’s hard to make that decision/pull the trigger bc there’s no going back) and what the future looks like for me and my 2 little girls. When I finally act on it.. the despair of divorce with a revengeful person will be a tie with another very hard time of my life which was recovering from addiction. We all seem to come out of hard times with more wisdom, empathy and strength. But I still get a lot out of these episodes and 3 of your opinions and advice on these different issues and scenarios people write in about. I’m working myself up to writing in also, but it’s gonna take a lot out of me.. and I’m a little afraid of what I’m gonna get told if it’s ever chosen to be on the show lol. Gonna listen now, thanks for everything guys, I know you dedicate a lot of time here and really put your hearts into this show and Two Hot Takes.
Story 4: I married my long distance relationship. I moved to him. However, we talked almost every day. We emailed, chatted over the internet, or talked on the phone. He is not your person. Please don't tie your heart any longer to him. He isn't willing to put in the work to make this relationship work. It takes both people in the relationship to make it work. I wish you well.
Thank you for story #3 i really needed that this morning ❤
Perfect timing for my drive to work
For Story #3, I have been in that place before with an ex and you need to leave him NOW! You will never be enough for him no matter what you do. He will always wonder what is on the other side of the grass and he will start to try to experience it without your knowledge. You cannot be happy with someone who doesn't think you are enough. I am now with someone who makes me feel like I am more than enough. Believe me you do not want to waste your time because years later I still get on myself for spending so much time, energy, effort and money on someone who never deserved me.
Once you feel what it’s like to have someone NEVER question your worth, you’ll never want it any other way. It’s sometimes hard to believe that when you love someone so much, though. It took me a decade to leave and then I knew my current boyfriend was the one within about a month. Because he had already treated me better than my ex ever had.
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Exactly, I was in it for almost 6 years and I wasn’t looking for a relationship afterwards but just dating around and my boyfriend and I clicked from the first date. I stalled from leaving my last relationship because I wanted to believe he can change or I was scared of the change of leaving that 6 years. But I am now wishing I left sooner because my current partner is completely different than my ex and my current partner really does prove “if they wanted to they would”. Because he does all of what my ex wouldn’t do and more.
I knew I couldn’t fall asleep for a reason😅❤
how do i keep catching yall so early AHH i needed this my job is on my last nerve and i don’t even make enough money to justify it 🤦🏾
Story 4 Im with Morgan. He either wants to/ can and will put in the work or not. He says he is sorry but his actions dont reflect that which makes his words meaningless. My dad was alot like this. He had good intentions but could never ever get to the place where any of my family trusted him or could rely on him. You don't want to be with someone who isn't pulling their weight on the team, that isn't being a partner. If Im being so honest it sounds like he is in a selfdiscovery period right now and may not be equipt to be in a relationship right now. It doesnt seem like he has the capacity to prioritize his growth and dirrection as well as his growth and full attention to his relationship. They are in different stages in life and there is nothing wrong with that. This just sounds like maybe right person wrong time or maybe for her wrong person right time.
Story 5: you guys didnt mention how she was rude about moving her purse and has talked about be rude and passive aggressive to him before.
You guys are acting like its a crazy red flag to move someones purse and a sign of control??? Its not. Moving something to get it out of the way.
The second story reminded me of how the last guy I was with got so insecure and made me delete photos of my ex who I was with for 5 yrs so I’ve got a handful left that I was able to find but it makes me so upset and sad because that’s part of my story and such a large part of me and so many things we did and just memories. Well when you guys were discussing having random photos of people and just reminded me and everyday I wish there was a way to get them back because it’s just nice to look back on and all that
Story number 5 I think the purse lady was rude first! In her commenting and all
Story 1 why would you ask for advice before you even have a conversation with the person lol some people just be wanting to vent
Is that not ok? Venting?
@@JS-0- sure, venting is fine, but it’s kind of hard to give advice to someone who hasn’t even had the conversation or communication with the person they’re writing in to complain about.
@ true
some people don’t have anyone they know irl they can just vent to like that 😬
@@megan9377 on that depressing note I guess I’ll stfu lolll
Story 3 : My husband and I were each other’s first. We were also fairly young (18/20). We have now been married for 4 years and together closer to 7. I have never once in my life considered I’ve lost out on not sleeping with other men. She needs to drop this guy asap.
10:59 OMG I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THIS IS LIZZY ALL OVER
In regard to the story about the boyfriend that wants to experience other women before settling down with his girlfriend...
Dating generally has two motivations: Novelty and Infatuation, and Security and Love. These are generally opposed to each other in some respects. Novelty brings that feeling of discovery, excitement, and mystery in a new partner. You tend to feel move valued and receive more attention during the love-bombing honeymoon phase of the first six months of a relationship than any other time. Whereas security involves building trust, planting roots, and familiarity with your partner.
Most people claim to want security, but the high you get from novelty is the stronger drive until you burn through that phase of life. Its why most people should not date seriously until they HAVE satisfied that craving for novelty. How many stories are out there about people cheating or divorcing because the grass seemed greener in the other pastures.
The OP should break up amicably and let him do what he needs to do. In some ways, its good that he IS communicating this need with her. It may be relationship destroying, but better now than married with two kids and a baby on the way. He needs novelty more than security and you don't.
In response to the long distance relationship story, it’s definitely possible to make it work. It’s hard but possible. My husband and I started dating in October 2014, he left for basic training beginning of 2015 and got stationed 17 hours from me. We stayed together, I finished my degree, we got married in 2018 and he deployed 3 weeks after we got married. We have 3 beautiful kids now
Story 2: my now late husband, boyfriend at the time would blow up like that about stuff. Low and behold, he was cheating on me the entire relationship & marriage. But made ME out to be the bad guy somehow.
50:14 I’d cut my loses and find a new friend. I had a mom friend one time and our kids loved each other and we enjoyed each other’s company a lot and we’d smoke together when the kids where asleep and help watch each other’s kids so we can get stuff done and my husband does not like people but he liked her and she didn’t have a car so we’d bring her grocery shopping with us and all that and one day her ex husband came back and started raising hell and we couldn’t be friends anymore. It hurt but I knew I couldn’t be around such an abusive person because that’s exactly how my parents were and she had to defend him and take his side. Remember you are and only are her friend and they have a family together. Pray for her and move on because he will always be there and in the way. You cannot avoid him and it sucks to leave her with such a sucky guy but that is not your responsibility. I miss our friendship but I was her friend and I deserve her to be my friend or no friends unfortunately. At least you’re not a mom yet so you have so much opportunity to find someone. RUN.
thanks for sharing
Story 3: I had a similar situation, was with my ex from age 16-21. He'd never been with anyone else and would make comments about that.. but differently our relationship was going down hill as well. After awhile of it being not good I split with him and felt such a relief and freedom. Found out after we split he actually tried to cheat on me like 8 months before we broke up (but the girl rejected him lol).. definitely find someone that values you and only wants you if that's the type of relationship you want.
Dad's right about the jinx & I'm 28
It’s even an episode in Regular Show
im 32 and jt was same for me. maybe a regional difference?
we did "jinx! pinch, poke you owe me a coke!" and wed pinch and poke them. if theyre wearing blue we add "youre wearing blue, you owe me 2!" if you do that, they can talk
if you just say jinx and dont do that, then they have to wait for you to say their name
Story number 3: I’ve been in a similar situation, my best advice is to leave. He’s not ready, and he won’t change his mind
The girl in story 5 started it, in my opinion. It's obvious she already didn't like the boyfriend because he sent a video of his proposal, so him moving her purse was just a reason to snap at him, and now she's confused as to why he snapped back? Yea, maybe he should have asked before he moved the purse, but it really wasn't that big of a deal imo.
Story 2: Guys, I don't know if this is the cultural difference or what, but I can't believe people are okay with what OP did. Would you really think it would be okay for your boyfriends to take and keep a picture of a girl they liked? Bcz like... 1. Why are you taking strangers' pictures? 2. Why are you keeping them even though you're in a relationship? 3. I'm not sure if she was in a relationship when she took the pictures but if she was, that's cheating on top of being creepy. Ugh, I hate saying this but this sounds like a double standart for sure. I don't think we women would be okay with weird ahh stuff like this if it happened to us but roles reversed, we call people insecure. Doesn't sit right with me :(
Agreed
Agreed!
I think op said they weren't dating when the picture was taken. Also, the original picture was of her mother and she cropped it because the guy was behind her. That's how she's got a picture/crop of him.
Agreed 💯
she wasn;t creepy...not cheating (even with boy friend) listen to the story Ï've been with my bf for 2 1/2 years....3 years ago I went to italy and met a cute guy at a cafe" (they JUST smiled at each other and yes...felt butterflies but it's normal nervious stuff)...she didn't take pictures of the guy, he was in the back in some of her mom's pics and cropped one to sent it to a friend of hers -----------> HE'S EFFING TOXIC!!!!
Story 2: the boyfriend is for sure overreacting, however I think it's not out of control, but because OP said the random guy gave her butterflies. If I was in her boyfriend's position, I too would be hurt if my SO said that to me
He can have his feelings about it; feelings aren’t right or wrong. But he found the photo and asked the questions and it doesn’t sound like she really said too much other than explaining what the photo was. He needed to realize that his feelings weren’t her problem and that a photo from before they were dating of a guy she never even met in a coffee shop wasn’t a threat. To me, this IS over the top.
@ I realize I sounded confusing, I meant I don't think he is trying to be controlling, but his reaction is over the top for sure, and he needs to do some self reflection about why he reacted the way he does, because he jumped to immediate accusations
49:02 Y'all are acting like he threw her purse onto the dog crate. No. He just put it there. She got the hair up her butt about it and angrily moved her purse back to the table. Nothing about this story says that he put it there forcefully or purposefully so a dog would chew on it. Knowing men, that probably didn't even cross his mind. The OP seems like a bigger issue in this story than she's letting on.
So silly of me to comment about the jinx lol - but you guys are both right (at least how I grew up!) It’s jinx you owe me a soda, but you aren’t allowed to talk until you give them a soda
Ok I am also familiar with the no talking version, but where I grew up it was that you couldn’t talk until the person who Jinxed you said your name
@@alexshaw8167 I’ve definitely heard of that version too, even that your name has to be said three times before you can talk 🤣 just kids changing the rules I’m sure. we weren’t allowed soda when I was a kid, so we just had to get each other a cup of juice or water instead haha
Story 5 there’s definitely fault on both sides. Being upset and slamming your purse down because he moved it was being the aggressor and not everyone thinks about those things. However, how he responded was wildly inappropriate as well. I also got weird vibes from how he was described at least and saying something like “I want to take care of my family” is definitely something I would’ve said in a past relationship if my abusive bf had convinced to cut off a friend. However OP, if someone is in an abusive relationship, you attacking their partner will only push them further into that partner. The best friend a person can ever have when they’re deep in an abusive relationship (not saying that’s what this is but if it is), is being a sound board, be someone that they can open to, be an open ear no matter how judgement you want to be. Be a good friend to that person until the time comes they want to leave and then you can help where they want help but you cannot force it. The best thing you can do is continue to show up for them. Often times when you’re in an emotionally or physically abusive relationship you don’t feel like you’re able to talk about things with anyone, you’re partner has made you feel like it’s “betraying your relationship” to open up about what’s going on or what they’re doing so if they do actually open up and are immediately attacked. They’ll retreat right back into themselves and their relationship
I feel like the girl in the last story has to decide what her boundaries are and stick by them. If she decides she’s okay meddling, then talk to her friend, if she decides she’s not, then the next decision is whether or not she can move past it. Whatever choice she makes, stick by it, and own it.
If she`s worried her friend might be in an abusive relationship she should try to stay in touch and see if she notices more red flags. If she even can and he hasn`t isolated her already. Stuck home with the baby.
32:15 it cannot be fixed! They are huge red flags I ignored.
Is the woman in the 3rd story okay? Is she joking? I think she's joking. The "our relationship has been amazing" made me giggle!
story three: I truly hope the best for OP. And my experience their partner will not ever be satisfied until they are able to do that, and let them because they don't see what they already have. Have only known one still to this day together couplethat experienced something like this and the break they took to "experience other people" was mutual and lasted four years. Them coming back together happened on coincidence in a coffee shop and they've now been married for almost 20 years! It's not impossible, but protect yourself and know your worth.
I did the same thing I thought that she was in the relationship with him when she took the photo of the guy and then I realized that she wasn't and was like oh never mind not the ahole.
father knows is the best!
9:05 I’m so here for this
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Damn bro she said I will talk to any guy she’s the red flag 🚩 lol
Story 1: I’m also curious about how the rent was paid before this.
Story 2- Even in a relationship your allowed to think someone is cute. It all depends on HOW YOU ACT towards those feelings! Which she clearly didn't act against her relationship.
Woohoo!! 🎉❤
No way I made it at 42seconds lol 😂
i’m here at 1 hour lol waking up for work
How did I manage to make it THIS early!
Story 5: I get that he didn’t understand purse etiquette but if you are in HIS home you could have just said “hey next time please just ask me to move it” .. IT IS NOT HER PLACE TO SLAM SOMETHING BACK ON THE TABLE. If someone looked me in my eyes and purposely put something back like that, I’d tell you to GTFO of my house too
Can we stop saying Ohh, he's a "goofball" or he's being so "goofy" when what we mean is this man is an absolute nightmare and POS?! Damn, it gets me irrationally angry to hear a word like "goofy" when someone is being a total douchebag. Call it what it is!!!! Say the real words!!! Aghhhhhhhhhhh
THANK YOU!!!!!!
the jinx game changed???
when i was growing up (im 32) it was "pinch, poke you owe me a coke! if youre wearing blue you owe me two!" (and you pinch and poke them)
if you dont do that part, then they cant talk until you say their name (but we just did first name) or its bad luck
or is it a regional thing?
Honestly even after listening to the last story again I can’t see how the guy is solely at fault. He was on the FaceTime with his fiancée and her friend and I’m assuming considering him and his fiancée just got engaged not long before him sending the video was a way to relate. Not only that but as someone who uses my own stories in relation to others to show understand and empathy I can see how that could be seen as self centered and narcissistic. I don’t do it on purpose but that’s just how my brain thinks it’s best to show that I am truly listening and relating to the person I am talking to. I think this is what this guy does and the friend just doesn’t understand that form of communication. Not only that but we have zero other context and there are two sides to every story. Who knows how many other things this friend has done to this man for him to end up reacting this way to her. She even said herself that she did not like him already so who is to say if we are speculating that her indifference towards him hasn’t been expressed multiple times before this in other types of over reactions or slights. Also who cares why he moved the purse he did it and from the sounds of it he didn’t throw it or do anything else aggressively with it (I am a woman and I wouldn’t even think about the dog getting the strings). If he isn’t aggressively throwing around the purse or otherwise intentionally moving it so it will get damaged I don’t see an issue. I think the only reason she even really cared that he moved the purse is because she didn’t like him already. Never in my life have I ever been or ever will be upset with someone for moving my stuff in their own home. Now if I didn’t like someone and they moved my stuff I most definitely could see myself being a little upset by it however I would never slam my purse down, stare them down (form of intimidation btw), and tell them to never touch my stuff (which she alludes to the fact that she isn’t yelling for him to never touch her stuff but if she is angry enough to slam her purse on the table who knows). I agree that people in general shouldn’t scream at each other whether you are a man or a woman in the way that he screamed at her but if someone disrespected me in that way in my own home and even possibly screamed at me in my own home I would lose it too. Again especially considering the fact that we do not know how this woman has been treating him since the engagement considering her opinion of him is less than favorable. I think taking into consideration we only have one side and very little information it is a huge stretch to even assume this friend is in an abusive relationship especially when she is saying that he never yells and is TELLING her friend that just got yelled at that him doing that is uncalled for and not okay. Not only that but if he was abusing his fiancée I think it would have been a lot harder for her to tell them to stop arguing as she would be afraid of her fiancée and what he might do when the friend left. Idk that’s just my opinion though.
Sorry 3: that was my life, met him young and then he wanted an open relationship after I gave everything. I wasn’t enough. There is no going back. He poisoned what we had. You will feel whole and relieved when the last remnants of that
relationship of gone. Also- I will garuntee, he’s already seeing someone. He’s cheating already he just wants to get permission to do so.
Can ANYONE tell me exactly where (I’ve been searching every platform) they got this exact cloud sofa and chair set??? Or the exact name of it so I can search it… TIA ❤
It’s from Wayfair :)
@ yay! Thank you! Much love to the THT & FKS crew! 💖✨
Morgan talking about “putting 500 or 1000 a month each into a joined saving account” girl is so out of touch ..
She said $100 or $200…
@ listen again .
@ lol go to 4:10 she literally says $100…after that she says as the relationship progresses and you move in with each other, then you may add more $500 or $1000 to be used for rent and groceries, which is a realistic amount for rent. She wasn’t saying 500 or 1000 a month to spend on dates
I need dad advice asap 😭 please. I will submit it
S3 ideal outcome he buys a ring and commits to me? No girl run. He`s gonna cheat on you, just do it behind your back. If you don`t want to be in a real open relationship than run. This is not marriage time if he wants to see other people and spend money on tinder and dates than he wants to be single. Or you agree on an open relationship and you also date.
bruh my now husband forgave me for accidentally having a d pic of my ex on my camera roll. i thought i deleted them all☠️☠️☠️☠️
HI!!!!
1 min ago, I feel like Joe from YOU😀
Story 3: Marriage is not a goal, it's a mile marker, and your partner isn't fit enough to pass that marker, and want explore restarting the race. You don't want to marry someone who isn't enthusiastic about it, otherwise your marriage will be miserable and a lot more expensive to end.
Also, marriage in your early 20s is not a good idea. Your brain isn't mature yet, and my thought process felt night and day between 25 & 26. It was like I woke up and had a clear picture of what I wanted and who I was. Its better for you and potential spouse to just wait before you legalize it
story 3… y’all just are not meant to be together. if you spend that long with someone and they still want to explore other options then you are not meant to be together. he is not in love with you and he doesn’t want to build a life together.
For these stories and Reddit ones we need to only talk about the information given. We don’t know that he’s really abusive. As the partner said he’s never done that. So clearly op actions made him fly off however he handed it really badly. Both need to apologize and move on.
story 3 just gutted me
I also still have pictures of my ex on my social media. I will absolutely NOT delete pictures of my kids, me looking amazing in my bikini and outfits, and beautiful exotic locations other people only dare to dream about visiting.
My hubby doesn't care. We've made amazing memories together.
Hot take for story 3: If she's interested, consider exploring sexually together. Swinging, opening the relationship, dating someone together.. there's lots of options. It takes a MASSIVE amount of trust and communication, but it could be a fun way to get the ya-yas out and learn about yourselves.
The fact that he's already on Tinder though, without having set boundaries or communication, really is the nail in the coffin for me.
How can you come across so intensely for the second story? Would love to see how you would act if your husband had a picture of a random girl he thought was hot and later told you he had butterflies for on your
Phone…. Ridiculous
Yassssss
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S1 I don`t see the question here. He`s in his 40s and shares rent with you and doesn`t get how to pay it? Wth have you guys been doing so far.
omg earlyyy
I do have to say it’s annoying that I pay for RUclips to not give me commercials and you guys still give me commercials. 30:13
You can just skip right over it tho. They have time stamps that basically skip over the ads. Also, I’m sure they earn a lot through their partnerships.
@ yes but the purpose of paying for no advertisement is so that I could do work shut off my phone and focus on what I’m doing, not having to stop what I’m doing. Go at the timestamp skip it and continue to do what I’m doing.
It defeats the whole purpose of paying for RUclips . And they are already getting paid for doing RUclips videos why does it have to inconvenience me when I already paid. It feels like a scam.
Ultimately, RUclips is the platform that gives content creators a place to get viewers. RUclips and content creators are separate stakeholders but working together is mutually beneficial, so they do. If RUclips can insert ads into content creators’ videos and take them away when you pay for YT Premium, that’s YT essentially charging you for what they bring to the table - a place a viewer (you) can conveniently come to find a massive pool of videos sorted algorithmically to their (your) tastes. What you are paying for in the RUclips Premium subscription is supporting RUclips and their service/what they bring to the table alone. Content creators receive nothing from you paying RUclips. Yet, without the work that Morgan, Justin and ‘Dad’ do, the video wouldn’t even exist. Therefore, if RUclips can benefit from not even having to make these videos themselves, yet yield massive monetary gain from adding or removing ads they insert, surely the creators themselves should be able to insert ads that ensure making these videos remains financially viable. Otherwise what’s the point?
IMO it’s important to allow the creators to do what makes it viable for them to continue - including inserting their own paid ads. At least with the YT subscription you only have to watch the creators’ ads without the ones from RUclips.
Story 5: Classic abusive narcissistist. The fiancé sounds exactly like my dad. Moving the purse is about power. He moved it tonsee hownshe reacted. You saw his true self when you stood up for yourself. He is an abuser. I am sorry for your friend and her baby, but she pushed you away. Keep yourself safe.
28:57 Story 3. ❤️🩹 I had the exact same situation, early 20's, he was my first love and I after years together he wanted to go and experience other woman, so he broke up our relationship, but wanted to hook up any other day, it was really messy and painful. It was difficult for me to set boundaries so I put space between us, literally, I moved away and with time that love "dissolved". It was though but OP (if you ever read this) you need to realize, this is not your person. Take this opportunity to grow as a woman, have more experiences and to find what do you really need in a partner. Build your boundaries and prioritize yourself, you are important and your partner will never ask this of you.
Story 5 -
That guy has the hots for her and he can only express it through anger lol. He probably is ashamed about something to do with the attraction, maybe bc it’s his fiancés friend, maybe she is the opposite to her friend in certain ways that he is intimidated by/ perceives her as emasculating. Either way no self centred straight man would be bothered by a woman to the point of being competitive and needing to assert himself/ is so provoked by her presence. I think the engagement caused him to feel unsettled by his desire. He put her bag on the dog crate to reinforce her status as beneath him, and her standing up to him probably turned him on as much as it enraged him lol.
22:52 well said. OP deserves so much more than this.💔
Story 3:
I had the exact same experience. I was with this guy from the time I was 15 till I was 22/23. He always wanted to “experience” other women. Made me always feel like I wasn’t enough. It came to a head when he fell for one of my friends. Which is a whole story I should write in about. But at the beginning of 2020, I left him. I decided to choose me and it was sad & freeing all at once. From my experience I’m yelling run! You’ll find your person. Cause I found mine 🥹
Story 5: Morgan’s advice is perfect, the husband clearly has been trying to separate her from other loved ones and it’s been working, please don’t give up on your friend 🥲
As someone who needed that friend once to help me see I had a way out when I was finally ready, please don’t give up on your friend ❤️🥰