You're talking about the guy with the shotgun who's perspective we're watching right? I thought it was strange how he's the one who was calling out that it was a cane and then you can clearly hear him shooting and then racking his shotgun twice AFTER saying it was a cane lol. So that means even the dude who said it was a cane was shooting so i think it was more of a "if one shoots, then everybody's shooting" scenario than a "mistake", which is just a trash thing to train officers to do tbh.
@@thekamotodragon Yes but there are such things as "Cane Guns" so he is still possibly a threat by pointing it at the officers. Although I doubt that thought even went through the cop's mind and he just wanted in on the action so he can get his paid leave while they investigate the shooting. In my opinion that was a bad shoot on his part and he should be charged for it. The others may or may not have known it was a cane.
hats off to the officer that actually tried disabling the vehicle rather than just shooting the guy right away when he started driving, need more cops like that
What is unsafe is the man going on a high speed chase at least by the chase starts the tires well be going flat he will not go to far and if you hit the radiator silver Good times it will kill the truck.
This guy was on a mission. He felt he had absolutely nothing to lose. When you are at that point in your head, nothing is going to stop your determination.
It's very sad. For everyone. People think the police are corrupt and looking for a fight and want to kill somebody everyday when just the opposite is true. I don't hide the fact that I'm an ex cop. Sometimes you're forced into a situation where you have to do what you don't want to do. He set in motion what happened once he slammed into the patrol car and went straight at the deputy. I'm disabled now and I walk with a cane. A cane can look like a rifle or shotgun quite easily. It didn't have to be this way.
Medicare for all, decent SS retirement etc and these incidences will undoubtedly be fewer. People are so beat down by this god forsaken corporatocracy.
@@dmoriasi He's driving a $75,000.00 F-250. I had one like it...He's probably not beat down. All he had to do is comply. This Corporatocracy is better than any other place or otherwise, no one would come through the Southern Border.
I could say something about certain parts of this, but instead…I feel strongly about how low a person has to feel to do something like this. The pain behind not being able to take this life anymore and just wanting out. I know that pain, but I choose to just keep waking up day after day. All I can do is pray for the strength to face each day, one at a time. There is so much suffering in this world. It’s crushing.
To : Micalah --- May God continue to bless and keep you.Don't give up ! I have known that pain too and God saved me. We have had to have a word or two on the topic over the years , but it gets easier. Love and prayers from Sharon in South Florida.
Micalah nobody knows that kind of pain until they feel it. I right now for several months are where you used to be. Its dark, lonely, painful thank you for being strong. You are loved by many many people, the fact that you have the courage to speak about it its a blessing amd if you save one life after she reads your posting then you are here today because God has a purpose for you, I pray everyday to be as strong as you have shown the world before its too latte for ne to pay it forward. Thank you for your courage to share. Its a disease that we as a nation don't talk about.
Hats off to the guy telling others what he sees and trying to direct the scene - "it's a cane, he's reaching for something, ...". This should be a standard procedure - exchanging information between officers as much as possible.
it is? clear and concise verbal communication is one of the first things you learn when beginning something like tactics or DTOS training as any law enforcement officer
@@noahgeddes4842 But not everyone can apply those in the heat of the moment. That guy did really well, also instructed people to check cross fire, and caese fire.
Tried??? This was a weak attempt at best. I'm a Marine Gulf War Vet and I can't count the number of times I have been in this exact situation and we DIDN"T kill the target. Cops are poorly trained when It comes to weapons and confrontations. This guy did not have to get shot. Even if he had a gun, which he didn't, he could still have been taken into custody. I have done it dozens of times against armed suspects. The difference was my training! Most cops are scared so they shoot to kill, in almost all cases. This alone is the biggest reason most of them should have never become police officers!
@@tima.478 Would you please tell me how you would have responded? What would you have done differently? This was sad to watch for all involved. Were you a negotiator? How would you have approached the vehicle, not knowing at the time if he was armed?
@@tima.478 he was a liability to the police and other people. What would you have done? The police have to protect the public. This guy was a threat. Period. If you think po want this to happen you’re nuts. They gave him a million chances and command sand he didn’t comply. This is his fault.
@@RMcCoy-fb4rs I am specifically speaking about the moments right before they shot this guy. The officers had the luxury of 100% cover. They were in no real danger of being shot by this guy, even if he had a gun in his hand, (which he didn't). If properly trained, from a position of cover, you can shoot to disarm, which Is what I would have chosen but only after a weapon was pointed in my direction. This is obviously either not taught at the police academy or pretty much every cop has chosen to ignore it. I would bet my last $$$ that the first rounds to hit this guy were center mass or head shots.
@@dcg590 First of all, you're not in danger, standing behind a police cruiser with 10 of your buddy's also standing behind theirs, weapons locked in on 1 target. Police are trained by a doctrine that is comprised of the beliefs and techniques of one individual. It is this individuals belief that threats should be eliminated with shots to center mass and or the head. And that is what the police do. This doesn't make it right nor does it apply to every confrontation between the police and an armed perp. But you clearly see it is almost always the result by the police. And you would probably feel differently if this guy was your father!
@@Street_Cred_Tuning They weren't communicating with him specifically. You have an officer who yelled that it was a cane to those around him. That officer was not within earshot of that officer. There was communication that the officer could hear over the radio, but it indicated that he was reaching into his vehicle, where he had guns. It didn't mention a cane.
Did anybody notice when he started shooting he did not shoot at the windshield to kill this guy he was shooting at the tires so that right there tells you that they have discretion and they know when they can use lethal force
@@cypressman I didn’t say all of them were smart individuals but the gentleman that shot first shot at the tires not the person the rest of these idiots did not use discretion
I like to sit safe n sound on my couch, watching these life changing situations and give comments about how I would have handled the situation a lot better so everybody could have gone home in peace.
@@bigdripjoshuacontrolsthewa5358 I'm fairly certain it was a different officer who shot him. That is what it says in the description for this video as well. Will be interesting to see what else is revealed as the investigation continues. With recent mass shootings one right after the other I'm sure police are especially on edge right now. I'm sorry this man died but he appears to have made up his mind that that would be his last day on earth.
The officer who opened fire against the suspect was in his right to do so. This man was violent, had guns, wasn't cooperating, uses his vehicle as a weapon and then he reaches into his vehicle where he has guns. That's an easy way to get shot. Note: The officer who opened fire did not hear this man say that it was a cane. He just heard someone say that he was reaching into his vehicle.
This is why watching and listening to these hard to watch videos is important. The title of even this video could frame someone to think about what happened as a bad shoot without a second thought till you look at everything in context. Still a horrible situation.
It is bad to shoot someone after someone tells you it's a cane. It's worse to still be shooting them more after they have told you it's a cane 3 or 4 times.
Secondly it’s illegal to shoot at a fleeing suspect even if it’s to disable his vehicle he shot at that tire before the vehicle is in motion towards him so it’s not self-defense.
The same officer that yelled “It’s a cane” also told the other officers “He has firearms in the truck”. It would seem to me that the guy was looking to be shot.
@@stupidass3791 Good idea. Pretty sure, everyone walking on the street must be armed in USA by then. Congressional Republicans would turn this country into wild west to line their pockets.
He was murdered! Cop said he tried to run him over, but he shot him before he even started to drive toward him! Instead of letting him drive away the cop killed him! Like they always do!
I like the descriptions that are always put on these situations, shot for pointing a cane. No... shot for evading police, resisting arrest, failure to obey lawful command, ramming a police vehicle, attempted murder of an officer with a vehicle, willful destruction, plus whatever led to the initial chase.
and everything you described is not a crime punishable by death you just advocated for cops to become judge jury and executioner way to lick the boots of those that will kill you for a cane
And cop making sure other cops know he’s got a cane, not to be confused w a gun, as long as it’s not a gun. Also making them aware he’s got guns in the car. This cop is sharp w all his info, and locations, and addresses of location.
Ya it's a great thing that cop arrived to a "suicidal person" call by pointing a gun at him on arrival. Usually that calms people down making them feel secure. Wonder why this particular guy didn't feel that way.
@@quijybojanklebits8750 First: guy was parked causing no problem. Second: cop arrives and immediately points a gun at him yelling "hands up" Third: guy takes off ~~~The cop escalated the situation~~~
@@quijybojanklebits8750 That guy was no where near close to running him over and you obviously saw he was trying to get away and the cop unloaded and said he tried to run him over, your blind dude.
This video unexpectedly launched me into an overwhelming emotional roller coaster. I feel a tremendous amount of deep sorrow and loss for both of them. I can't imagine handing over my life and emotional well-being as a job. Wow.
I'm with you. It's difficult for us with consciences to watch such things. The most powerful emotion for me is helplessness. I simply cannot help. That's overwhelming for me.
"Its a cane. Its a cane. Its a cane." In all fairness, the man was suicidal. And in the US, calling 911 for a mental health crisis has become the Door Dash of homocide.
If only he had counseling or some kind of therapy. You never know what people are going through so be nice to people. It’s not hard and it costs nothing to be nice
It would be nice if we spent more resources into mental hospitals. They will take in almost anyone, but only for a short time as they don't have the resources to wait for you to get better or know that you are on the right meds before getting rid of you.
@@Matthew-Anthony I see MANY homeless Vets where I live,it’s very sad but I have seen skinny dogs with them. The homeless Vets have signs looking for a donation ( I give if I have anything to give) and unfortunately,their dogs go hungry just like their owner. We NEED to take better care of our Vets! It’s a shame how the government “pays them back “ for their service to our country.😢
Repeatedly, the office declared: "It's a cane!"... What devastates me is how our veterans return with such traumatic life-enduring mental illnesses and they're treated so damned poorly. Heartbreaking.
His unpredictability, unwillingness to cooperate, reaching behind the seat and fleeing the scene while almost running over an officer lead to him being shot.
He DIDN'T run over the officer. The FREAKING jerk cop started FIRING HIS WEAPON BEFORE the guy turned his wheel. He was shot at that point. The cop LIED, (and my son is a cop by the way).
El Camote, it obvious that at least 2 of the officers knew this man and knew he had mental issues. The lead officer knew and yelled it’s a cane, it’s a cane several times, but the others still shot him. The lead officer really wanted to help.
The fact that this officer did everything to give the suspect another chance and not end his life, he even almost got ran over trying to shoot the suspects tires and not the suspect himself.
He screamed its a cane its a cane like 10 times And they still shot But lead officer good job You knew your surroundings and knew what he had that people might mistake for a gun
"hmm this man holding a stick too thin to be firearm didn't fire any shots at all. Whats that? it *is* in fact a cane and not a weapon? Welp boys, better turn him to swiss cheese" absolutely pathetic
That seems to me like a really well trained cop. Sorry for him that it ended this way because he seemed intent on not wanting to have to put that guy down.
Don't know. Wasn't there. Sad day for a lot of people. 30 years ago, near my rural home, a car purposely crossed into the path of a fully loaded dump truck, both traveling about 50 mph. It's sad enough to want to die but forcing someone else to assist is so wrong. Those cause permanent suffering on those involved. May each one find mercy in God's sight.
My mother had a guy in a wheelchair roll in front of her too kill himself… sad; he failed and his life sucked before he was hit and thrown across 3 lanes of traffic into a park.
There's probably going to be an atheist that just has to point out the fact that you would even mention God so lemme do that before they do. God bless these people 🙏🙏
I think that’s partially the point. This seem to be more common among people likely to feel unaccomplished or underachieved. When people contemplate their death they want to feel connected to the world they’re leaving. This is a way for their death to be forever connected to other people, meaning in their head their death mattered more. It’s not correct, but that’s the mentality
Next town over to me has a good rural road with train tracks nearly parallel. At the point they cross the road has a downhill straight into a large stone wall bridge abutment, the underpass is a 90° right then left chicane. At night you can see oncoming headlights from under the trestle so it would be a pretty "safe" spot.
Where did they find this Police officer? We need more like him around. He's got very good sense of command, he is logical thinker, and he is not Trigger happy .
The whole time they are waiting on "someone with less lethal", I'm just wondering why doesn't every single unit that's out on the roads, have less lethal in the car? So many videos I've seen where the officers are trying to find someone with less lethal, and the person ends up dead. If they can hand every cop a pistol to carry at all times, which is fine it can absolutely be necessary, they can absolutely carry less lethal options as well.
why else, because they enjoy murdering anyone they have a chance to open fire on, look at the POS who was giving him the verbal commands. You can tell by his voice he thinks he is entitled and is annoyed he has to do his job. That being said, there should be several officers being charged with murder for killing this innocent man.
@@Negotiator007 that’s not even close he had control of the situation they knew the guy they didn’t want to kill him they wanted him to comply he was angry that the man wouldn’t just listen. you are entitled and ignorant if anything, thinking this man wasn’t doing his job correctly if his team listened they wouldn’t have killed the man
Money. It cost a lot of money for armaments, training with them, ammo and upkeep. Especially with the whole "Defunding" movement thing that happened. They were already underfunded, which was/is why there are so many training and armament issues as it is.
@@yungswimmer9554 no sense arguing with someone who is only watching the video for confirmation bias instead of having an open mind and thinking for themselves.
Military combat vet here and come from family of a long line of Military combat vets going way back past WWI. None of us ever had run ins with cops nor rammed squads before attempting to run cops over.
The guy who shouted cane right before the officers opened fire also appeared to discharge his shotgun a number of times. Why would he do that knowing it was a cane?
Perhaps a moment of self-doubt? Shots were heard from his comrades, and in turn, he fired to with the idea being that maybe he made a mistake and the other officers identified the so called "cane" as an actual gun and so they shot first and he followed up in response. Just my guess.
It's a cult. And their lives are more valuable than the citizens life. So taking every measure to make sure this ends peacefully isn't something their gunna do.
@@deandredunbar9618 everything this man did let to his own demise, virtually like every other deadly force situation. But police departments are hemorrhaging officers cutting back on patrols and proactivity is not happening anymore so good news! Soon you’ll be lucky enough to handle a situation like this as a citizen and prove that you can do better 👍🏼 good luck!
The officer yelled multiple times it was a cane and they still fired. I know from the other officers standpoints they have to protect themselves from any imminent danger, seeing as they were almost ran over, and the lead officer was just about ran over. I feel so bad for everyone involved.
I’m assuming threw focusing on solely the suspect, they blocked out the crucial and most important callout made seeing the cane and firing until it was too late. Sad 😢
Also called for more officers to get on the scene. Maybe they arrived offscreen after he yelled it's a cane. He was talking to them and giving directions of where to go the whole time. All of the initial officers were standing where he was.
The cops weren't even close to getting run over. They established that it was a cain early. Just like always, shoot first ask questions later, because there pussys.
@@bear3663 guns are legal in the United States. And the fact that a person has a gun in their car does not mean the police are allowed to murder that person. They get away with it because the legal system is corrupt. Prosecutors unofficially work for the police, so they will never prosecute killer cops.
@@stephenmartinez1 "guns are legal in the United States" Due to his violent past (whatever that means) he wasn't allowed to have a gun. I don't know if it was because of his mental state or a crime he commit. I don't believe they were there to hurt him, but to help him. He threatened to shoot himself in the head, which isn't a legal thing to do in the public. It's a shame that he couldn't have gotten help before it got this far.
@@stephenmartinez1 I prefer to judge people by their own actions and not stereotype them based on the actions of others. I have no doubt that had the man cooperated, that he would have lived another day. He may threaten to kill himself again, but hopefully he could get the help he needs.
Guys.. he was suicidal earlier, clearly having mental issues, people don’t think straight when going through that type of stuff, sad it had to end the way it did, officers did what they could.
More love, empathy and kindness to others is needed. It would help too if the economy wasn't so terrible and people weren't struggling to survive. However, there is pain in some people that is so intense that we can't see. A hug sometimes just isn't enough.
The title of this video gives the impression that a man was shot for simply "pointing a cane" at someone. Unfortunately this is how the news portrays these events.
Um, he did and he was. Did you watch a different video? Sure one officer realized it -- but at least three others including what sounded like a rifle opened up.
Even if he simply pointed a cane, I mean thats a pretty understandable reason to light him up if you cant tell what it is and youre in an armed standoff with him.
@@nspring06 well, that reasoning wouldn't fly for any private citizen. It shouldn't fly for public officials who are trained and held to a higher standard.
@Thecarkid 11 I hope you don't carry and if you do I hope nothing like the above takes place. They'll eat you alive friend. It's pretty crazy what innocent, law abiding men and women have been convicted for while just defending themselves and their families. (I'm not being a peckerhead either about the "I hope" stuff. I really do mean it.)
9:12 The poor officer tried his best to warn others that it was *not* a weapon, but it was only a walking cane, but shots were eventually fired, and it was too late to save the suspect.
Unfortunately the officer who fired first had no way of knowing that it was a cane. He just saw the violent man refuse to cooperate and reach inside his vehicle for something.
Are you kidding? In a place where everyone has guns, a cane gun is a real possibility. Shooting him dead was a good call for the safety of everybody else
Rewatch the video after he backs into the one cruiser when he comes forward and the officer is shooting at the tire he turns into the officer that's the point his hand was on the fender
Lack of education spotted, you don’t have to be directly in front of a vehicle to be almost run over. You also have to take into account the resolution of the camera making things appear farther away than they really are.
They're trained to say things like ,"he tried to run me over" or "he's reaching for my gun" those type of statements help them justify anything they do. The guy wasn't trying to run him over but him yelling that out now has everyone on his side.cop new it was a whole cane and still shot him..
@@juniorlopez7062 I don’t think we watched the same video, unfortunately I can tell that no matter what facts are displayed through the several videos already released your opinion will not change as you, in fact are biased against law enforcement. Until such biases are set aside truth will not prevail.
I think every car should carry a paintball gun with "Jawbreaker" rounds (solid 12-36-gram balls) they shoot pretty far and are accurate. They will bring someone to their knees
"It's a cane!" 2-3 people start shooting multiple shots anyway. Am I missing something? How was it mistaken when dude clearly said it was a cane 2 mins before and 2 more times directly before shots fired. Sounds like even the shotgun went off which was the guy yelling it's a cane..
So, for a cop, if one of your officers is firing at a suspect and you don’t have a clear perfect visual of their hands then you can assume one of the other cops saw a gun or saw a direct threat to human life. You have to trust in your fellow officers, even though it can sometimes lead to human error.
Finally a cop that aims for the tires, How many videos I've seen where a cop and a similar situation is aims for the driver as the guys driving away. ((This is referring to like the first minute of the video not the whole video))
@@cathbadh1320 I still commend him for doing that at his range, And how he stopped after the car got too far away safely aim for the tires, I would say aiming for the tires when you only 10 15 ft away would be pretty safe as long as you're aiming downwards and not directly diagonal or upwards. I
Its not always advisable as bullets can do weird things with tires. Sometime they will go through a tire but sometimes they can deflect off. It can be pretty risky. Remember that many tires have steel and kevlar type fibers in them.
@@jonathanevans3853 FOr sure he pulled it off. The danger is from missed shots hitting pavement and skipping/ricocheting. I had one of my officers catch a pavement ricochet this year in a different circumstance. He got lucky and is fine
Victim? He wasn't a victim. He was a criminal who tried to run a police officer over and before the cops showed up. He was threatening people with his firearm and stole someone's truck. He's not a victim. He's a p.o.s scum And a waste of oxygen.
If this man didn't have a gun in his hand at the moment these cops fired at him then no matter what this is a BAD shoot. PERIOD. "I thought it was a gun " Isn't good enough.
It's a vet that was fed up with life. I don't think he regretted getting shot. You can hear it in his voice. He was done with life. This is what happens when men and veterans are treated like disposable trash.
He (the cop from the bodycam) opened fire after another officer started shooting, after having told the other officers it was a cane for a second time. That really does seem to be another example phenomena where if one cop opens fire, they all do, to ensure no one can be exactly sure who killed the target. I could be wrong but I see no other valid reason why the cop the body cam footage is taken from would open fire after all of that like he did. Another very sad case of mental health issues resulting in violent suicidal actions. With someone in a truck like that, that has already almost run over a cop, the options are severely limited, but once he is out of the truck, and some of the cops realise he is acting suicidally, surely the non lethal options get deployed first, right?
Ballistics can confirm who's shot hit where. There could be numerous lethal shots which causes confusion, but often it is determined who's shot struck the vital organs.
You can hear him radio in for non lethals in the first 5 mins but I don’t think anyone at that scene had any other than taser which wouldn’t work from that far away.
Yep I noticed that too you can only recognize the click of a 12 gauge re-chambering when it’s that close to a microphone it had to be his it’s really crazy huh
Screaming or yelling at someone is supposed to show authority. Much like the way a drill sergeant screams at recruits. It might be just me, but even if I was trying to commit suic. (which he was) I'd be scared frozen when they're yelling I'd just do what they ask.
@@Bubbleswubblez well not really hats off to this officer. Its the samer officer who claimed that he tried to run him over, which wasn't really the case..............and because of that, everyone thought this guy was trying to kill an officer already.
This title is a bit misleading, though not untrue. Made it seem like the police were at fault and clearly this guy was going out that day. I would have felt bad for him if he didn't almost run over the officer. Once that happened I didn't care anymore. I hate that he forced this upon someone else too
@@Jay-Niner he began backing into a cruiser when the cop opened fire, if you notice the officer wasnt aiming at the man, he was aiming at the tires. he was trying to disable the vehicle to slow him down and bring any pursuit to a quick end. so no he wasnt shot at first in any way. he made an aggressive move and the officer responded correctly and even made an effort to use a lethal force tool for a non lethal purpose.
@@wakcedout I completely get what your saying and I agree seeing it from the officers perspective but from the drivers seat I think that would be very difficult to interpret and would most possibly appear to me as though I’m being shot at
@@XxXtheorder fair, but we are talking officer use of force here. And if you drice your vehicle toward an officer wgen they're trying to get you out of it. Then just like drawing a real gun in them you should expect to be shot. A vehicle can classify as a deadly wepon dependent on how its being used. You have to put yourself in the officers position here and ask yourself, "what would I do?". Keep in mind as I say this, I've been trained in use of force in the USAF security forces. I mention this so people won't presume me as just some keyboard warrior, sad I even have to say it.
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Exactly. He did not try to run him over... He did not want to be in a fight.... Police fired at him, escelated it as always and put the blame on the guy . Aside from that, who knows why and this and that. But yes. Police need to chill,, not shoot to kill, but Baton, Take, Spray...ANYYYYTHING!!
Can't really tell with this lousy camera angle. Isn't there a police officer closer that should have a better view? It was said that he may have guns in the truck. Play the game, win the prize.
Officers across a parking lot focused on a armed and deadly suspect might not have the best hearing. And officers are not out to get you they are here to protect you.
Cops are so trigger happy. They slaughter people with a ton of bullits. Whats wrong with them? Did they ever hear the commandment "Thou shall not kill?" Wait until their final day comes.
But then they will just hear "fire" "fire". I don't think what he said made a difference though, because the officer who initially opened fire wasn't close enough to hear him say that it is a cane. Then the others followed in once they heard gunshots.
The officer called it right minimizing risks, but the man wanted to be shot. Laying aside the cane and lifting the hands was all he had to do. This is a mental health problem, dangerous and unpredictable.
@@jeanninecathcart627 They are not always shooting to kill. It is a lot harder to hit a leg vs the torso--which is a larger target--especially when you think someone is shooting at YOU, and they don't have any "rules" to adhere to. Unless you have been in the situation, it is impossible to understand what is going thru their minds within those seconds. But shoot to kill is not first on their list.
And risk an officer getting shot and killed? You don't think that has NEVER EVER crossed their minds? You try shooting a moving unpredicatble target 4 inches wide from 50+ ft away.
Part of having a mental health episode is not behaving rationally, shooting down mentally ill people armed with a walking stick and writing it off as him "wanting to be shot" shouldn't be how we deal with this.
Dude, they saw what they saw. I hate cops also, but this is a genuinely scary situation. The guy almost ran a cop over and refused to cooperate for 10 minutes. Also, he had guns in the car (I don't know how they knew).
@@scottandrewhorne4655 No that's what snowflakes see when they watch police shooting videos. Cops don't care why you're crazy they just care that you presented a threat. Real or not he wanted to be killed and he intentionally created a situation where the cops would shoot. The delusional world you live in prevents you from seeing that reality.
If you notice, the tire is flat after that (probably the intended target). Also, we do not have the full story here. What if he was putting others in danger before that?
You can see he pointed at the tire first then he tried to hit him. They knew he had guns in the car we have no idea why they even were there in the first place , they definitely didn’t want him driving away for a reason we don’t know.
@@georgewindsor5907 I guess I am confused as to what makes the officer whose bodycam we are seeing "out of control"? I certainly can't imagine having that situational awareness under that much pressure.
THAT’S INTERESTING HE ALREADY TRIED TO RUN HIM OVER…. HE’S REACHING IN THE BACK SAYING GET YOUR SNIPER. THEN HE SAYS HE’S REACHING FOR A GUN…THEY MUST’VE REALLY LIKED JOHN
For one the man in the truck is crazy, wouldn't even follow their instructions. But then cop was yelling it's a cane, but they still shot anyway. It was handled correctly up until that point.
It's hard to say for me , but where i live in france , this kind of mistakes almost never happen here , because nobody can be armed .. Situations with gun's other than in the houses or living places of suspects is very very very rare , the charges for carring a loaded gun or a replica are so hard , nobody take the risk to go outside with a gun ... So, the police is a lot more relax when they manage a suspect , they don't think at first a weapon ... But it's one of the very rare adventage of our gun law here, because i see a lot of advantages to have the right to carry a gun on yourself like a lot of states do in the US ! A very complicated thing ... but it's an another debate !
We're clearly better there, in US your life can end for just a mistaken move. When around there cops will try to stop by all the ways other than using their guns
The lead officer came in way too hot and wound the other cops up with his initial comments over the radio and then after he calmed some regained his composure but by then it was too late. those initial comments he tried to run me over set the tone for the rest of the encounter
nope, the fact the dude tried to drive off when they opened his door is what wound them up, comply and dont die, resist and its over , its the american way
@@custommadeknives But you claim the country is free lol. The guy shouldn't of resisted but the cop was foolish to shoot the car and then run towards a moving car, then claim he tried to run him over. That's the victim mentality many cops have that makes civilians dislike them.
@@jonathanwildemann3403 If you have experience shooting you know bullets can easily go off target due to recoil. He definitely hit the car too because I doubt he's a good enough shot to consistently hit tires on a moving car in a high stress situation. If anything shooting like that endangers the public because bullets hit bystanders on the regular, and disabling a tire makes him prone to accidents
I would love to know the thoughts of the people who die this way. It's so freaking sad for everyone involved. Like dang. That dude was clearly going through it and needed true help
@@flashbazbo694 How does your question make sense? Guy was freaking out about getting locked up and choose to die instead. He feared his freedom being taken more than death. What part do you not get?
Well. He said goodbye to his woman on the phone apparently? I don't know how they knew that but I bet its infidelity issues if that were true. He likely told her his plans before leaving the house.
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This lead officer was well aware of his surroundings and strategic with his plans. Not sure how he knew it was a cane but others didn't. Sad.
You're talking about the guy with the shotgun who's perspective we're watching right? I thought it was strange how he's the one who was calling out that it was a cane and then you can clearly hear him shooting and then racking his shotgun twice AFTER saying it was a cane lol. So that means even the dude who said it was a cane was shooting so i think it was more of a "if one shoots, then everybody's shooting" scenario than a "mistake", which is just a trash thing to train officers to do tbh.
@@thekamotodragon yeah or since he can’t see he assumed that another officer saw a gun
@@thekamotodragon ye i thought that top, he does it twice saying about the cane, then pumps the guy with at least 2 slugs.
He still shot twice. Listen for the rack
@@thekamotodragon Yes but there are such things as "Cane Guns" so he is still possibly a threat by pointing it at the officers. Although I doubt that thought even went through the cop's mind and he just wanted in on the action so he can get his paid leave while they investigate the shooting. In my opinion that was a bad shoot on his part and he should be charged for it. The others may or may not have known it was a cane.
hats off to the officer that actually tried disabling the vehicle rather than just shooting the guy right away when he started driving, need more cops like that
Ummm how did he do that? A 9mm ain’t stopping a truck
He literally pointed the gun in the car to try and get a kill shot tho
Shooting the tires… lol open your eyes
shooting the tires is generally unsafe and not something LE trains
What is unsafe is the man going on a high speed chase at least by the chase starts the tires well be going flat he will not go to far and if you hit the radiator silver Good times it will kill the truck.
I feel so bad for these disabled vets the government puts them through so much and expects them to lead normal lives
I mean he did say get your snipers boys that’s gotta make some officers cautious
There are many disabled vets. Most don't try to run cops over.
yeah but... running over people? that's not right
@@napalmsf i guess you don't know how common this jackass.
What happened can you give me a heads up
I understand wanting to end it like this, but it's something I could never do. I don't want to harm anyone else, ever.
Why not?
@@N73B60 Beause harming others is evil, unless you are doing it in self defense or defense of others.
@@N73B60don't knock it till ya try it
This guy was on a mission. He felt he had absolutely nothing to lose. When you are at that point in your head, nothing is going to stop your determination.
It's kinda sad really.
It's very sad. For everyone. People think the police are corrupt and looking for a fight and want to kill somebody everyday when just the opposite is true. I don't hide the fact that I'm an ex cop. Sometimes you're forced into a situation where you have to do what you don't want to do. He set in motion what happened once he slammed into the patrol car and went straight at the deputy. I'm disabled now and I walk with a cane. A cane can look like a rifle or shotgun quite easily. It didn't have to be this way.
He wasn’t necessarily on a mission. Maybe he just skipped his meds.
Is that Sushi place any good?
@@jsmith1561 nope
When a man has nothing else to lose and his life seems meaningless to him…this is what it leads to.
Medicare for all, decent SS retirement etc and these incidences will undoubtedly be fewer. People are so beat down by this god forsaken corporatocracy.
@@dmoriasi He's driving a $75,000.00 F-250. I had one like it...He's probably not beat down. All he had to do is comply. This Corporatocracy is better than any other place or otherwise, no one would come through the Southern Border.
Well, that, and the belief that men with guns are the solution to every issue.
@@gliderider59 The US is nowhere near the top in any positive metric. Keep lying to yourself.
@@gliderider59 Don't know if it's his truck or how he got it. Easy to assume but no one knows how his life is other than him and those close to him.
The one cop calling the shots and clearly has a strategic plan in mind, that's the guy we needed at Uvalde.
Speculation and two completely different real world situations.
Real brave against a cane. But, instead. You got a bunch of blue line cowards. Typical blue line gang of pussies.
Different situations but I get your point. He was decisive and clear throughout. Qualities lacking in most encounters we see.
Like the other cops, he would've followed orders.
@@rodneydoyle8611 yup.
I could say something about certain parts of this, but instead…I feel strongly about how low a person has to feel to do something like this. The pain behind not being able to take this life anymore and just wanting out. I know that pain, but I choose to just keep waking up day after day. All I can do is pray for the strength to face each day, one at a time. There is so much suffering in this world. It’s crushing.
I wish you strength and peace. I’m pulling for you, God bless ❤️
I know it all to well also . You are beautiful 💘♐🤟🏼🤟🏼⚘
To : Micalah --- May God continue to bless and keep you.Don't give up ! I have known that pain too and God saved me.
We have had to have a word or two on the topic over the years , but it gets easier.
Love and prayers from Sharon in South Florida.
Micalah nobody knows that kind of pain until they feel it. I right now for several months are where you used to be. Its dark, lonely, painful thank you for being strong. You are loved by many many people, the fact that you have the courage to speak about it its a blessing amd if you save one life after she reads your posting then you are here today because God has a purpose for you, I pray everyday to be as strong as you have shown the world before its too latte for ne to pay it forward. Thank you for your courage to share. Its a disease that we as a nation don't talk about.
a trip to a 3rd world country will change your way of looking at life
Hats off to the guy telling others what he sees and trying to direct the scene - "it's a cane, he's reaching for something, ...". This should be a standard procedure - exchanging information between officers as much as possible.
it is? clear and concise verbal communication is one of the first things you learn when beginning something like tactics or DTOS training as any law enforcement officer
@@noahgeddes4842 But not everyone can apply those in the heat of the moment. That guy did really well, also instructed people to check cross fire, and caese fire.
He still shot
That guy was a total nut job
Problem is that once one cop shoots, they all start shooting....
"Keep talking to him. You know him." -- Smart officer trying to talk a suicidal man down a compassionate way. At least y'all tried.
Tried??? This was a weak attempt at best. I'm a Marine Gulf War Vet and I can't count the number of times I have been in this exact situation and we DIDN"T kill the target. Cops are poorly trained when It comes to weapons and confrontations. This guy did not have to get shot. Even if he had a gun, which he didn't, he could still have been taken into custody. I have done it dozens of times against armed suspects. The difference was my training! Most cops are scared so they shoot to kill, in almost all cases. This alone is the biggest reason most of them should have never become police officers!
@@tima.478 Would you please tell me how you would have responded? What would you have done differently? This was sad to watch for all involved. Were you a negotiator? How would you have approached the vehicle, not knowing at the time if he was armed?
@@tima.478 he was a liability to the police and other people. What would you have done? The police have to protect the public. This guy was a threat. Period. If you think po want this to happen you’re nuts. They gave him a million chances and command sand he didn’t comply. This is his fault.
@@RMcCoy-fb4rs I am specifically speaking about the moments right before they shot this guy. The officers had the luxury of 100% cover. They were in no real danger of being shot by this guy, even if he had a gun in his hand, (which he didn't). If properly trained, from a position of cover, you can shoot to disarm, which Is what I would have chosen but only after a weapon was pointed in my direction. This is obviously either not taught at the police academy or pretty much every cop has chosen to ignore it. I would bet my last $$$ that the first rounds to hit this guy were center mass or head shots.
@@dcg590 First of all, you're not in danger, standing behind a police cruiser with 10 of your buddy's also standing behind theirs, weapons locked in on 1 target. Police are trained by a doctrine that is comprised of the beliefs and techniques of one individual. It is this individuals belief that threats should be eliminated with shots to center mass and or the head. And that is what the police do. This doesn't make it right nor does it apply to every confrontation between the police and an armed perp. But you clearly see it is almost always the result by the police. And you would probably feel differently if this guy was your father!
ITS A CANE, ITS A CANE, they proceed to just light him up anyways.
The officer who initially opened fire couldn't hear him say that it was a cane, then the others followed suit once the gunfire started.
@@bear3663 if hes so far away then why are they trying to communicate with him
@@Street_Cred_Tuning They weren't communicating with him specifically. You have an officer who yelled that it was a cane to those around him. That officer was not within earshot of that officer. There was communication that the officer could hear over the radio, but it indicated that he was reaching into his vehicle, where he had guns. It didn't mention a cane.
Did anybody notice when he started shooting he did not shoot at the windshield to kill this guy he was shooting at the tires so that right there tells you that they have discretion and they know when they can use lethal force
The guy died.!
lol so when the guy yelled it's a cane it's a cane and they shot him they were using competent discretion rite
@@cypressman I didn’t say all of them were smart individuals but the gentleman that shot first shot at the tires not the person the rest of these idiots did not use discretion
One cop was using extreme discretion. The other inaccurate, blood thirsty dogs, not so much.
@@iraevans2013 fool, dogs don’t do that …only homo sapien
I like to sit safe n sound on my couch, watching these life changing situations and give comments about how I would have handled the situation a lot better so everybody could have gone home in peace.
@Vincent McKey.. How would you have handled the situation better.
@@gerry2345 I’m pretty sure he was just making fun of people who actually do that
Your friendly neighborhood keyboard warrior
@@gerry2345 Comment went right over your head lol. Correction right through your head haha
At least you are smart enough to know you would suck in these situations. Some cops need to realize the same and go sit on their couch like you.
As I continue to watch I realize the lead officer is begging him to stop and he's passionate about not killing this man.
To me it seems he couldn’t wait to fire. American cops are the worse.
You're blind and easily manipulated
The cop you're talking about- hes got a cane! ITS A CANE!!! Proceeds to shooting him twice with a shotgun
@@bigdripjoshuacontrolsthewa5358 exactly!
@@bigdripjoshuacontrolsthewa5358 I'm fairly certain it was a different officer who shot him. That is what it says in the description for this video as well. Will be interesting to see what else is revealed as the investigation continues. With recent mass shootings one right after the other I'm sure police are especially on edge right now. I'm sorry this man died but he appears to have made up his mind that that would be his last day on earth.
These robocops are out of control. They couldn't wait to shoot somebody.
The cop who fired should be charged with murder
The officer who opened fire against the suspect was in his right to do so. This man was violent, had guns, wasn't cooperating, uses his vehicle as a weapon and then he reaches into his vehicle where he has guns. That's an easy way to get shot. Note: The officer who opened fire did not hear this man say that it was a cane. He just heard someone say that he was reaching into his vehicle.
This is why watching and listening to these hard to watch videos is important. The title of even this video could frame someone to think about what happened as a bad shoot without a second thought till you look at everything in context. Still a horrible situation.
It wasn't a bad shoot.
Your right, from the title, I expected it to be a bad shoot. I don't think it is.
“Framing”
Something honest non-bias creators should avoid.
It is bad to shoot someone after someone tells you it's a cane. It's worse to still be shooting them more after they have told you it's a cane 3 or 4 times.
Secondly it’s illegal to shoot at a fleeing suspect even if it’s to disable his vehicle he shot at that tire before the vehicle is in motion towards him so it’s not self-defense.
The officer wearing the bodycam was doing everything he can to save this guy.
It's too bad there are less cops like him.
Execpt telling them it’s a cane and still shooting him
Everybody subscribe to this guy that put the officer with body cam thanks I l I ke coment
He said it's a cane, then has multiple guns I can't see, it's a cane.
You mean I can’t point my cell phone and yell “I’m calling my mom”
The same officer that yelled “It’s a cane” also told the other officers “He has firearms in the truck”. It would seem to me that the guy was looking to be shot.
Well they need to ban assault canes and limit the magazine sizes for them...
@Anthony, noooo I’m looking forward to carrying one in my elder years.
@ Frank Butta.... SBC as per description....unfort. situation
@@stupidass3791 Good idea. Pretty sure, everyone walking on the street must be armed in USA by then. Congressional Republicans would turn this country into wild west to line their pockets.
Agreed, this dude was sick of living, Sad but true.
This doesn't give an impression of professionalism.
The hes saying goodbye to his old lady sent me into tears. The amount of people this man hurt its unbearable
He knew exactly what he was doing.
What a shame.
I thought his "old lady" was a rural expression.
He was murdered! Cop said he tried to run him over, but he shot him before he even started to drive toward him! Instead of letting him drive away the cop killed him! Like they always do!
How many people he hurt? What did he do? I never saw that in the video?
@@JS-fb6ww he is using the cops as a method to kill himself hurting the caps and his family and freinds
I like the descriptions that are always put on these situations, shot for pointing a cane. No... shot for evading police, resisting arrest, failure to obey lawful command, ramming a police vehicle, attempted murder of an officer with a vehicle, willful destruction, plus whatever led to the initial chase.
Exactly
These cops opened up too soon,PERIOD.
and everything you described is not a crime punishable by death you just advocated for cops to become judge jury and executioner way to lick the boots of those that will kill you for a cane
On point .
@@davidcarter1013 I disagree. EXCLAMATION POINT (!).
And cop making sure other cops know he’s got a cane, not to be confused w a gun, as long as it’s not a gun. Also making them aware he’s got guns in the car. This cop is sharp w all his info, and locations, and addresses of location.
And yet they still Shot the Guy. Idk how to feel about this. It could be seen two different ways. Tough.
Ya it's a great thing that cop arrived to a "suicidal person" call by pointing a gun at him on arrival. Usually that calms people down making them feel secure. Wonder why this particular guy didn't feel that way.
@@waldo2635 he did attempt to run a cop over so it was escalated at that point.
@@quijybojanklebits8750
First: guy was parked causing no problem.
Second: cop arrives and immediately points a gun at him yelling "hands up"
Third: guy takes off
~~~The cop escalated the situation~~~
@@quijybojanklebits8750 That guy was no where near close to running him over and you obviously saw he was trying to get away and the cop unloaded and said he tried to run him over, your blind dude.
I think all of these cops should of joined the US Marines in 2005/6 to learn a little something about trigger discipline
This video unexpectedly launched me into an overwhelming emotional roller coaster. I feel a tremendous amount of deep sorrow and loss for both of them. I can't imagine handing over my life and emotional well-being as a job. Wow.
Get a therapist. 🤣🤣🤣
Lol, that's called exploitation in good ol' america.
@@ButterBiscuitGobbler exactly welcome to the USA😅
I'm with you. It's difficult for us with consciences to watch such things. The most powerful emotion for me is helplessness. I simply cannot help. That's overwhelming for me.
Trust me, this place is run by the prince of the air
How many times do you need to be told to put your hands up
Me probably 8 I'm hard of hearing
Same number of times they have to tell "stop shooting"
"Its a cane. Its a cane. Its a cane."
In all fairness, the man was suicidal. And in the US, calling 911 for a mental health crisis has become the Door Dash of homocide.
How many times do you need to be told it's a cane?
@@thenightingale7405 none, if you think it's a cane, but I think it's a gun, I'm taking the shot. I trust my eyes more than yours.
If only he had counseling or some kind of therapy. You never know what people are going through so be nice to people. It’s not hard and it costs nothing to be nice
It would be nice if we spent more resources into mental hospitals. They will take in almost anyone, but only for a short time as they don't have the resources to wait for you to get better or know that you are on the right meds before getting rid of you.
Owning a pet is one of the best forms of emotional therapy.
@@Matthew-Anthony not for everyone though
@@CHOZN1BEATSWhat makes you say that?
@@Matthew-Anthony I see MANY homeless Vets where I live,it’s very sad but I have seen skinny dogs with them. The homeless Vets have signs looking for a donation ( I give if I have anything to give) and unfortunately,their dogs go hungry just like their owner. We NEED to take better care of our Vets! It’s a shame how the government “pays them back “ for their service to our country.😢
Repeatedly, the office declared: "It's a cane!"... What devastates me is how our veterans return with such traumatic life-enduring mental illnesses and they're treated so damned poorly. Heartbreaking.
If you want to know who's to blame for all these veterans with trauma, look up the metzitzah b'peh.
Considering you don’t know the situation, he pointed the cane like a gun at them. He should be glad he’s dead.
He got exactly what he deserved. He put other people's lives in great danger. Whether he was treated poorly before this incident is beside the point.
Poor Iraqi baby killer
@@cc7521it was a cane what danger
His unpredictability, unwillingness to cooperate, reaching behind the seat and fleeing the scene while almost running over an officer lead to him being shot.
Amen
any excuse to shoot and kill people. But nothing about how the officer could have done better.
He DIDN'T run over the officer. The FREAKING jerk cop started FIRING HIS WEAPON BEFORE the guy turned his wheel. He was shot at that point. The cop LIED, (and my son is a cop by the way).
Totally justified (and honestly kind of funny)
El Camote, it obvious that at least 2 of the officers knew this man and knew he had mental issues. The lead officer knew and yelled it’s a cane, it’s a cane several times, but the others still shot him. The lead officer really wanted to help.
The fact that this officer did everything to give the suspect another chance and not end his life, he even almost got ran over trying to shoot the suspects tires and not the suspect himself.
He did a terrible job. But by US standards, that's considered outstanding.
@@genki2705 I think he did horrible as well
This is the type of mentality why policing sucks in USA.
@@genki2705 why was he terrible and how would you manage this situation?
He screamed its a cane its a cane like 10 times
And they still shot
But lead officer good job
You knew your surroundings and knew what he had that people might mistake for a gun
different angles and he wasnt on radio so not everyone could hear him.
He did handle it very well. All good bases were covered. It's a shame this happened.
Ceasefire
they were tired of farting around with him
He WANTED to die and used the cops for his selfish act
"hmm this man holding a stick too thin to be firearm didn't fire any shots at all. Whats that? it *is* in fact a cane and not a weapon? Welp boys, better turn him to swiss cheese" absolutely pathetic
That seems to me like a really well trained cop. Sorry for him that it ended this way because he seemed intent on not wanting to have to put that guy down.
🤣
@Reveal the Word I wish it was like that for everyone....sadly it's not.
There are humans that NEED to be “put down.”
@@carriematthews7991 Lives are precious, So I don't believe that.
@@carriematthews7991 Social media makes people say things huh?!
Don't know. Wasn't there. Sad day for a lot of people.
30 years ago, near my rural home, a car purposely crossed into the path of a fully loaded dump truck, both traveling about 50 mph.
It's sad enough to want to die but forcing someone else to assist is so wrong. Those cause permanent suffering on those involved.
May each one find mercy in God's sight.
My mother had a guy in a wheelchair roll in front of her too kill himself… sad; he failed and his life sucked before he was hit and thrown across 3 lanes of traffic into a park.
Hopefully his legs got the blunt force of the hit. No pain or further injury!😂
There's probably going to be an atheist that just has to point out the fact that you would even mention God so lemme do that before they do. God bless these people 🙏🙏
I think that’s partially the point. This seem to be more common among people likely to feel unaccomplished or underachieved. When people contemplate their death they want to feel connected to the world they’re leaving. This is a way for their death to be forever connected to other people, meaning in their head their death mattered more. It’s not correct, but that’s the mentality
Next town over to me has a good rural road with train tracks nearly parallel. At the point they cross the road has a downhill straight into a large stone wall bridge abutment, the underpass is a 90° right then left chicane. At night you can see oncoming headlights from under the trestle so it would be a pretty "safe" spot.
Where did they find this Police officer? We need more like him around. He's got very good sense of command, he is logical thinker, and he is not Trigger happy .
No, we need worldwide Righteousness which would mean we wouldnt need police....
But your small minds can't seem to see the bigger picture here.
Went to shoot out his tire and everything
@Medieval u mean at the tire to make him not get away in the car ?
@@jdisrael7607 If not for pea-sized brain like you, we would not be needing Police.
@Medieval it was at the tire...
what did he do for them to come at him like this omg
This man was done living for whatever reason. Sad reality, but he knew the outcome.
Relax
@@mrpoopybutthole6202 am relaxed thanks
Yeah, because the cops were sadistic. With cops like this in your neighborhood better turn into a vigilante.
He knew the outcome alright. He knew the cops would just love to get out their guns and escalate. Video is proving this time and again now-a-days.
All I can say is that was a really difficult situation to manage.
or maybe ur gut knows cops do this too easy and too often to pretend "these are reallly difficult situations to manage"
modern adrenaline junkie cops specialize in creating these situations in the first place
no youre right, they did the right thing
@Jonathan Williams maybe when its your turn, they'll get around to it a little faster, eh
Yes, for a poorly trained law enforcement officer.
The whole time they are waiting on "someone with less lethal", I'm just wondering why doesn't every single unit that's out on the roads, have less lethal in the car? So many videos I've seen where the officers are trying to find someone with less lethal, and the person ends up dead. If they can hand every cop a pistol to carry at all times, which is fine it can absolutely be necessary, they can absolutely carry less lethal options as well.
why else, because they enjoy murdering anyone they have a chance to open fire on, look at the POS who was giving him the verbal commands. You can tell by his voice he thinks he is entitled and is annoyed he has to do his job. That being said, there should be several officers being charged with murder for killing this innocent man.
Technically they were waiting for long range less lethal but I agree.
@@Negotiator007 that’s not even close he had control of the situation they knew the guy they didn’t want to kill him they wanted him to comply he was angry that the man wouldn’t just listen. you are entitled and ignorant if anything, thinking this man wasn’t doing his job correctly if his team listened they wouldn’t have killed the man
Money. It cost a lot of money for armaments, training with them, ammo and upkeep. Especially with the whole "Defunding" movement thing that happened. They were already underfunded, which was/is why there are so many training and armament issues as it is.
@@yungswimmer9554 no sense arguing with someone who is only watching the video for confirmation bias instead of having an open mind and thinking for themselves.
Military combat vet here and come from family of a long line of Military combat vets going way back past WWI. None of us ever had run ins with cops nor rammed squads before attempting to run cops over.
The people in the comments downing these cops are out of touch. Thank you for your service
@@Meepoth right because A CANE IS THE DEADLIEST WEAPON EVER LOL
The guy who shouted cane right before the officers opened fire also appeared to discharge his shotgun a number of times. Why would he do that knowing it was a cane?
I said the same thing
Perhaps a moment of self-doubt? Shots were heard from his comrades, and in turn, he fired to with the idea being that maybe he made a mistake and the other officers identified the so called "cane" as an actual gun and so they shot first and he followed up in response. Just my guess.
he stated their is guns in the car it was known but he knew that at that moment it was a cane
It's a cult. And their lives are more valuable than the citizens life. So taking every measure to make sure this ends peacefully isn't something their gunna do.
@@deandredunbar9618 everything this man did let to his own demise, virtually like every other deadly force situation. But police departments are hemorrhaging officers cutting back on patrols and proactivity is not happening anymore so good news! Soon you’ll be lucky enough to handle a situation like this as a citizen and prove that you can do better 👍🏼 good luck!
You can almost hear the Cop trying not to break his composure. I feel so sorry for them to have to deal with this...
I know right
I feel sorry for him to
I feel sorry for the people who have to deal with the cops.
Oh please, they live for this moment
Shooting an unarmed man is part of the american dream
I think it's unfortunate because the lead officer screamed out multiple times it's a cane and then shots were fired.
but he also shot
@@StonerKitchen na he never shot
@@derek4177 you can hear the pump
@@StonerKitchen yep, that was the officer right next to him. Watch the video?
They got cane guns
Thanks!
I'm not sure who needs to hear this but it is NEVER a good idea to point anything a cop when guns are pointed at you...
Agree 100%
Unless you're suicidal like the guy in the video and you want to die so yeah it can be a good idea
As simple as that.
I don't think it mattered to that guy, I think he wanted to go out like that.
You would think that would be common sense but I guess having sense is rare these days with some people.
This is the first time in a long time I've seen an officer shoot at tires
The officer yelled multiple times it was a cane and they still fired. I know from the other officers standpoints they have to protect themselves from any imminent danger, seeing as they were almost ran over, and the lead officer was just about ran over. I feel so bad for everyone involved.
I’m assuming threw focusing on solely the suspect, they blocked out the crucial and most important callout made seeing the cane and firing until it was too late. Sad 😢
Also called for more officers to get on the scene. Maybe they arrived offscreen after he yelled it's a cane. He was talking to them and giving directions of where to go the whole time. All of the initial officers were standing where he was.
He only tried to hit him after he unloaded on him
And I really wish he hadn't missed
yea, they probably where rlly focused on john, all they saw was something that looked like a rifle pointed at their other officers
The cops weren't even close to getting run over. They established that it was a cain early. Just like always, shoot first ask questions later, because there pussys.
I can’t count the number of videos I’ve seen where the police end up murdering or brutalizing a person after saying “we’re here to help”
They tried but this man wouldn't cooperate and reached into his vehicle where he had guns.
@@bear3663 guns are legal in the United States. And the fact that a person has a gun in their car does not mean the police are allowed to murder that person. They get away with it because the legal system is corrupt. Prosecutors unofficially work for the police, so they will never prosecute killer cops.
@@stephenmartinez1 "guns are legal in the United States" Due to his violent past (whatever that means) he wasn't allowed to have a gun. I don't know if it was because of his mental state or a crime he commit. I don't believe they were there to hurt him, but to help him. He threatened to shoot himself in the head, which isn't a legal thing to do in the public. It's a shame that he couldn't have gotten help before it got this far.
@@bear3663 how many times have we seen the police kill someone after first saying “we are here to help you”
@@stephenmartinez1 I prefer to judge people by their own actions and not stereotype them based on the actions of others. I have no doubt that had the man cooperated, that he would have lived another day. He may threaten to kill himself again, but hopefully he could get the help he needs.
This is terrible please comply, why is it difficult!
Some people are wolves. Some people are sheep.
Guys.. he was suicidal earlier, clearly having mental issues, people don’t think straight when going through that type of stuff, sad it had to end the way it did, officers did what they could.
He was suicidal. He did not care what happened at all
Comply or die????
Stop calling evil good. 🤦🏿♀️
Some ppl just need a hug, more love in this country is needed.
@Tah BOO love caused this? How so?
@@Unknown-rs5is touch some grass kid.
@Tah BOO I can agree with that as long as it's 50/50
@@hemlock42069 I'm not sure what you mean by that?
More love, empathy and kindness to others is needed. It would help too if the economy wasn't so terrible and people weren't struggling to survive. However, there is pain in some people that is so intense that we can't see. A hug sometimes just isn't enough.
The title of this video gives the impression that a man was shot for simply "pointing a cane" at someone. Unfortunately this is how the news portrays these events.
Um, he did and he was. Did you watch a different video?
Sure one officer realized it -- but at least three others including what sounded like a rifle opened up.
That’s literally what happened?
Even if he simply pointed a cane, I mean thats a pretty understandable reason to light him up if you cant tell what it is and youre in an armed standoff with him.
@@nspring06 well, that reasoning wouldn't fly for any private citizen. It shouldn't fly for public officials who are trained and held to a higher standard.
@Thecarkid 11 I hope you don't carry and if you do I hope nothing like the above takes place. They'll eat you alive friend. It's pretty crazy what innocent, law abiding men and women have been convicted for while just defending themselves and their families.
(I'm not being a peckerhead either about the "I hope" stuff. I really do mean it.)
9:12 The poor officer tried his best to warn others that it was *not* a weapon, but it was only a walking cane, but shots were eventually fired, and it was too late to save the suspect.
Unfortunately the officer who fired first had no way of knowing that it was a cane. He just saw the violent man refuse to cooperate and reach inside his vehicle for something.
@@bear3663 No arguments here on that reply. As you said, the officer who fired first only saw a violent man who refused cooperation. End of story.
Hats off to the lead officer. Such a tragic outcome but we really need more people like him to prevent these terrible situations in America
Are you kidding? In a place where everyone has guns, a cane gun is a real possibility. Shooting him dead was a good call for the safety of everybody else
You mean the lead officer who unloaded is gun at a person... in a vehicle... in a retail area.
Uh....huh.
Couldnt agree more with Tyler
@@darc8221 He also shouted cane, then fired off 2 shots because everyone else fired.
You listen to the cop who's yelling it's a cane fellas and you can hear he to fired his weapon
Why do they always say
"He tried to run me over" when the cop actually stepped closer. At no time was he in front of the vehicle.
I thought the same thing! They often put themselves in that position then blame the driver.
Rewatch the video after he backs into the one cruiser when he comes forward and the officer is shooting at the tire he turns into the officer that's the point his hand was on the fender
Lack of education spotted, you don’t have to be directly in front of a vehicle to be almost run over. You also have to take into account the resolution of the camera making things appear farther away than they really are.
They're trained to say things like ,"he tried to run me over" or "he's reaching for my gun" those type of statements help them justify anything they do. The guy wasn't trying to run him over but him yelling that out now has everyone on his side.cop new it was a whole cane and still shot him..
@@juniorlopez7062 I don’t think we watched the same video, unfortunately I can tell that no matter what facts are displayed through the several videos already released your opinion will not change as you, in fact are biased against law enforcement. Until such biases are set aside truth will not prevail.
He signed his own death warrant when he tried to run down a cop and yelled "get your snipers boys". Everything after that was collateral damage.
agree
I feel bad for the cops for having to kill a guy.
*These people's mental health after taking a life is "collateral"? It is HUGE! It's probably to be in their minds the rest of their lives*
People are having mental breakdowns
aksmex I don't feel bad for no cop he was having a mental breakdown and they should have called someone to help him
Sad. The lead officer asked for less-lethal at 4:30. If only they had it ready...
I think every car should carry a paintball gun with "Jawbreaker" rounds (solid 12-36-gram balls) they shoot pretty far and are accurate. They will bring someone to their knees
That cop needs to be commended..great leadership...
Shots fired from the side of the truck he was not in front of the truck
So how did cop think he could run him over
"It's a cane!" 2-3 people start shooting multiple shots anyway. Am I missing something? How was it mistaken when dude clearly said it was a cane 2 mins before and 2 more times directly before shots fired. Sounds like even the shotgun went off which was the guy yelling it's a cane..
Cops are assassins for the state.
I think some of those officers just wanted to kill someone that day
You are obviously missing alot. In this situation, they knew he had guns and officers get killedc every day because they hesitate.
The guy should've just put his hands up and not reach something because cops can get killed because of people deceiving them 😬
So, for a cop, if one of your officers is firing at a suspect and you don’t have a clear perfect visual of their hands then you can assume one of the other cops saw a gun or saw a direct threat to human life. You have to trust in your fellow officers, even though it can sometimes lead to human error.
We need to see the full video like the minutes before the beginning of this video. From what I saw, the guy was using his phone but ran from the cop?
After smashing a cop car behind him. He showed aggression. He wanted suic/by cop. He got what he wanted in the end.
Read the description. It tells you everything.
This is what information you got off the video? lol geesh.
3 times, its a cane, its a cane, its a cane. his fellow was saying that before firing his weapon.
Well.. the do make canes that fire bullets.
@@foltzenlogel 😂nice one
those 9mm canes will blow your lungs right out.
Conveniently ignoring "he's got guns in the truck" and "he keeps reaching under his seat"
Not a mental health expert in sight ~ just fire power. Sad.
Finally a cop that aims for the tires,
How many videos I've seen where a cop and a similar situation is aims for the driver as the guys driving away.
((This is referring to like the first minute of the video not the whole video))
Its against policy in many departments because its a ridiculously dangerous move that could easily kill or wound a bystander.
@@cathbadh1320 I still commend him for doing that at his range,
And how he stopped after the car got too far away safely aim for the tires,
I would say aiming for the tires when you only 10 15 ft away would be pretty safe as long as you're aiming downwards and not directly diagonal or upwards.
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Its not always advisable as bullets can do weird things with tires. Sometime they will go through a tire but sometimes they can deflect off. It can be pretty risky. Remember that many tires have steel and kevlar type fibers in them.
@@jonathanevans3853 FOr sure he pulled it off. The danger is from missed shots hitting pavement and skipping/ricocheting. I had one of my officers catch a pavement ricochet this year in a different circumstance. He got lucky and is fine
Would have been safer to just shoot him through the window. Shooting the tires is like shooting in the leg. It just looks good in movies.
Honestly in a situation like this even if I saw a cane, I would assume it was a cane gun.
Lmao
Thats what i was thinking
😆 🤣 😂
Like saints row lmao
So just shoot and kill ‘em all
It is a tragedy for the victim and devastating burden for the officers.
can you say me what a cane is?
Victim? He wasn't a victim. He was a criminal who tried to run a police officer over and before the cops showed up. He was threatening people with his firearm and stole someone's truck. He's not a victim. He's a p.o.s scum And a waste of oxygen.
@@AdrLuc u use it to help u walk?
@@xvo7271 so, he holds a cane and then all the officers shoot?
@@AdrLuc yea because it could look like hes pulling up a gun because he points the cane at the officer
If this man didn't have a gun in his hand at the moment these cops fired at him then no matter what this is a BAD shoot. PERIOD. "I thought it was a gun " Isn't good enough.
@Zachary Dallas that you made
Some people are beyond help .
he got his wish i think
yea alot of them have qualified immunity and internal investigations, The cops should be going to prison
@@mokooh3280 that wasn't a cop they shot.
@@TheGreatPumkin1 yea the cop shot someone unarmed that was not a physical threat. The cop was the one in the wrong and deserves prison
@@mokooh3280 if only he just followed simple commands. The police was 100% in the right.
They gave this guy every opportunity to comply 🚶🏾♂️
Yuuup.
More opportunities than most.
@@123antknee definitely 😒🤦🏾♂️🚶🏾♂️
It's a vet that was fed up with life. I don't think he regretted getting shot. You can hear it in his voice. He was done with life. This is what happens when men and veterans are treated like disposable trash.
They did not such thing!! They all pre- determined to take him out
He (the cop from the bodycam) opened fire after another officer started shooting, after having told the other officers it was a cane for a second time. That really does seem to be another example phenomena where if one cop opens fire, they all do, to ensure no one can be exactly sure who killed the target. I could be wrong but I see no other valid reason why the cop the body cam footage is taken from would open fire after all of that like he did.
Another very sad case of mental health issues resulting in violent suicidal actions. With someone in a truck like that, that has already almost run over a cop, the options are severely limited, but once he is out of the truck, and some of the cops realise he is acting suicidally, surely the non lethal options get deployed first, right?
Ballistics can confirm who's shot hit where. There could be numerous lethal shots which causes confusion, but often it is determined who's shot struck the vital organs.
Maybe when the other police fired he thought he misidentified the weapon.
Could be that he assumed he was wrong about it being a cane since officers to his right, with a better angle, opened fire.
You can hear him radio in for non lethals in the first 5 mins but I don’t think anyone at that scene had any other than taser which wouldn’t work from that far away.
Yep I noticed that too you can only recognize the click of a 12 gauge re-chambering when it’s that close to a microphone it had to be his it’s really crazy huh
He shot while the truck was still reversing.
Can’t they use a loud speaker and calmly give directives? BSo many of these videos show cops hysterically screaming and losing their voice.
Screaming or yelling at someone is supposed to show authority. Much like the way a drill sergeant screams at recruits. It might be just me, but even if I was trying to commit suic. (which he was) I'd be scared frozen when they're yelling I'd just do what they ask.
You're assuming they don't want to shoot the guy.
@@crystalfrederick9281 shut up.... your comparison is asinine
Your assuming they want to shoot him
They get extremely nervous and agitated
“It’s a cane! Cane, cane, cane!” This is incredible! We need more offers like this it’s crazy how he can tell! Stay safe! ❤️
hi. what does that mean i didnt get it. its a cane? like whats a cane?
@@joghdtv7074 a cane is a stick people use to help themselves walk
@@joghdtv7074 it was a cane that people use to walk! He thought he pulled out a sniper! Hope this helps!
@@Bubbleswubblez or just it looked like a long assault rifle gun.
@@Bubbleswubblez well not really hats off to this officer. Its the samer officer who claimed that he tried to run him over, which wasn't really the case..............and because of that, everyone thought this guy was trying to kill an officer already.
I would have had my hands up and out the window before he even said it
Well, that have been known to end deadly as well.
@@pa1060 Let's not pretend that happens a lot
This title is a bit misleading, though not untrue. Made it seem like the police were at fault and clearly this guy was going out that day. I would have felt bad for him if he didn't almost run over the officer. Once that happened I didn't care anymore. I hate that he forced this upon someone else too
So true especially since he tried to run em over and he said get your snipers out boys so he did it to himself and said many more things
He was shot first and then he drove past the cop.
@@Jay-Niner he began backing into a cruiser when the cop opened fire, if you notice the officer wasnt aiming at the man, he was aiming at the tires. he was trying to disable the vehicle to slow him down and bring any pursuit to a quick end.
so no he wasnt shot at first in any way. he made an aggressive move and the officer responded correctly and even made an effort to use a lethal force tool for a non lethal purpose.
@@wakcedout I completely get what your saying and I agree seeing it from the officers perspective but from the drivers seat I think that would be very difficult to interpret and would most possibly appear to me as though I’m being shot at
@@XxXtheorder fair, but we are talking officer use of force here. And if you drice your vehicle toward an officer wgen they're trying to get you out of it. Then just like drawing a real gun in them you should expect to be shot. A vehicle can classify as a deadly wepon dependent on how its being used.
You have to put yourself in the officers position here and ask yourself, "what would I do?".
Keep in mind as I say this, I've been trained in use of force in the USAF security forces. I mention this so people won't presume me as just some keyboard warrior, sad I even have to say it.
I have many days like this, not knowing if I am going to last the day, but knowing there is always tomorrow that might make a difference to my life it keeps me going and I thank God for that.
My heart reaches out to you. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. This is what my Bible says. Prayers and much caring to you.
Your dogs would be homeless…they need you. If you are having a crappy day…watch dry bar comedy. Or a Maine comedian bob marley. Or take a nap with your dogs. Antidepressants really help.👍🏻🙏🐶✌️
"Get your snipers Boys"
He said that with an odd glee
Exactly.
He did not try to run him over...
He did not want to be in a fight....
Police fired at him, escelated it as always and put the blame on the guy .
Aside from that, who knows why and this and that. But yes. Police need to chill,, not shoot to kill, but Baton, Take, Spray...ANYYYYTHING!!
Yells it's a cane but proceeds to shoot him anyway lol unreal
Can't really tell with this lousy camera angle. Isn't there a police officer closer that should have a better view? It was said that he may have guns in the truck. Play the game, win the prize.
In view or not...its the stupidity of this. They were not in any harm or threat at all!!
That’s the sad unreal part he shoots him anyway then cocks the shell out the 12gauge wow
Shouldn’t have run or tried to run anyone over. He did this to himself. Police dont want this crap.
Terrible country, terrible cops
"We're here to help" say the heavily armed men pointing those arms directly at him with itchy trigger fingers
Of all the police shootings I've seen in my life, this is definitely one of them.
"Its a cane", officers proceed to shoot. I dunno what to think of this. Officers pumped on adrenaline can't listen
They wanted to kill this guy so bad they were looking for any reason
@@JoeWayne84 if that was true wouldn't they have killed him in the beginning when he tried to run the officer over
Officers across a parking lot focused on a armed and deadly suspect might not have the best hearing. And officers are not out to get you they are here to protect you.
@@corvette.zr1591 First point is fair. Second point is completely false. There are many corrupt people no matter what position they hold.
It really sucks because you know that guy didn't really want to die. Maybe at the moment he felt like he did, but you know he didn't.
Yeah but... Some people make it really difficult to help them. Society is not worse off without them.
@@bunsonhoneydew9099 savage
You don't know that, you're just projecting...
@@pixiepaws99 I don't think you know how to use the word projecting
Cops are so trigger happy. They slaughter people with a ton of bullits. Whats wrong with them? Did they ever hear the commandment "Thou shall not kill?" Wait until their final day comes.
I think what he say is in the wrong way. "It's a cane it's a cane" This sound like it's a weapon. May be he should say "cease fire, cease fire".
But then they will just hear "fire" "fire".
I don't think what he said made a difference though, because the officer who initially opened fire wasn't close enough to hear him say that it is a cane.
Then the others followed in once they heard gunshots.
The officer called it right minimizing risks, but the man wanted to be shot. Laying aside the cane and lifting the hands was all he had to do. This is a mental health problem, dangerous and unpredictable.
@@jeanninecathcart627 You could hear him ask if anyone had less lethal, aka rubber or bean bag.
@@jeanninecathcart627 You probably don’t hunt. Center mass is the only way to stop the threat. Winging a bad guy to subdue him is Hollywood.
@@jeanninecathcart627 They are not always shooting to kill. It is a lot harder to hit a leg vs the torso--which is a larger target--especially when you think someone is shooting at YOU, and they don't have any "rules" to adhere to. Unless you have been in the situation, it is impossible to understand what is going thru their minds within those seconds. But shoot to kill is not first on their list.
And risk an officer getting shot and killed? You don't think that has NEVER EVER crossed their minds? You try shooting a moving unpredicatble target 4 inches wide from 50+ ft away.
Part of having a mental health episode is not behaving rationally, shooting down mentally ill people armed with a walking stick and writing it off as him "wanting to be shot" shouldn't be how we deal with this.
“It’s a cane, it’s a cane!” How much clearer can you get.
Dude, they saw what they saw. I hate cops also, but this is a genuinely scary situation. The guy almost ran a cop over and refused to cooperate for 10 minutes. Also, he had guns in the car (I don't know how they knew).
@@akivaweil5066 they saw nothing but an unwell man gave up on Earthly life because of souless people simple
@@scottandrewhorne4655 No that's what snowflakes see when they watch police shooting videos. Cops don't care why you're crazy they just care that you presented a threat. Real or not he wanted to be killed and he intentionally created a situation where the cops would shoot. The delusional world you live in prevents you from seeing that reality.
@@akivaweil5066 Bruh
A relative told them he had guns in his from. This happened in forest hill Maryland. I was at the gas station across the street when it happened
Maybe I am missing something here, but the officer fired at the vehicle Before the suspect "tried running him over".
If you notice, the tire is flat after that (probably the intended target). Also, we do not have the full story here. What if he was putting others in danger before that?
You can see he pointed at the tire first then he tried to hit him. They knew he had guns in the car we have no idea why they even were there in the first place , they definitely didn’t want him driving away for a reason we don’t know.
This Cop is absolutely as out of control as the suspect is. This person has no business being a LEO
Do you care to elaborate? Do you work in law enforcement?
@@SkeepyJeepyJohnson Retired Det Sgt. Boston Police Department
@@georgewindsor5907 I guess I am confused as to what makes the officer whose bodycam we are seeing "out of control"? I certainly can't imagine having that situational awareness under that much pressure.
THAT’S INTERESTING HE ALREADY TRIED TO RUN HIM OVER…. HE’S REACHING IN THE BACK SAYING GET YOUR SNIPER. THEN HE SAYS HE’S REACHING FOR A GUN…THEY MUST’VE REALLY LIKED JOHN
Imagine dealing with violent people who don't care if they die every day .
How can you die everyday?
If you don't like your job quit.
I doubt the cops in Forest Hill MD deal with violent people of any type every day.
Imagine living in a world where you'd never be able to make that comment because you offended someone
Oh , you mean like some cops?
For one the man in the truck is crazy, wouldn't even follow their instructions. But then cop was yelling it's a cane, but they still shot anyway. It was handled correctly up until that point.
If you watched the full video, No you didn't.
@@lmartinez9902 at least they gave him a chance
@@Bri.4n right, other people get 60 shots.
Wow, what patience the officers showed.
I do not see it that way personally
@@carpo719 you have no clue..
Moral of this story. Never be an angry disabled man who needs a cane to get around.
I HATE U PPL
“We are here to help!” Ten of us with assault weapons pointed at you and one body bag.
It’s called self defense numbskull
I don’t need that kinda help…
This is a tragedy for everyone involved.
No thanks.
His family will be rich.
I feel sorry for the pickup truck. He was the innocent victim, owned and driven by a lunatic.
JUST LIKE IN CHICAGO
It's hard to say for me , but where i live in france , this kind of mistakes almost never happen here , because nobody can be armed ..
Situations with gun's other than in the houses or living places of suspects is very very very rare , the charges for carring a loaded gun or a replica are so hard , nobody take the risk to go outside with a gun ...
So, the police is a lot more relax when they manage a suspect , they don't think at first a weapon ...
But it's one of the very rare adventage of our gun law here, because i see a lot of advantages to have the right to carry a gun on yourself like a lot of states do in the US !
A very complicated thing ... but it's an another debate !
I think the yellow vest protesters would disagree with you.
Your country is lucky
You see the United States lives no longer it should now be call DS not US the divided state there's nothing United in this country
@@dtropolopicus3602 well the "yellow vests" never got shot even when they threw molotovs and rocks so i dont really get your point
We're clearly better there, in US your life can end for just a mistaken move. When around there cops will try to stop by all the ways other than using their guns
After yelling it's a cane several times
😞😞
Still that fella was pumped full of lead. Horrible situation all around
If you notice the one screaming it's a cane was on the opposite end of the parking lot from the ones that fired. They probably didn't hear him.
@@lArtemislll still sad
@@josephgarcia7396 I definitely agree. It's awful.
Cop should lose his job, but as always it is the pathetic law in that backward country. You allow people guns expect no less
It's exactly what he wanted and he got it.
So the cops killed him for having a cane? Great job our outstanding police force.
The lead officer came in way too hot and wound the other cops up with his initial comments over the radio and then after he calmed some regained his composure but by then it was too late. those initial comments he tried to run me over set the tone for the rest of the encounter
nope, the fact the dude tried to drive off when they opened his door is what wound them up, comply and dont die, resist and its over , its the american way
@@custommadeknives But you claim the country is free lol. The guy shouldn't of resisted but the cop was foolish to shoot the car and then run towards a moving car, then claim he tried to run him over. That's the victim mentality many cops have that makes civilians dislike them.
@@HawaiiDEEPS Please .......... like you could do this job !! You have NO IDEA , Monday Morning Quarterback !!
@@HawaiiDEEPS He wasn't shooting the car. Look again, he was shooting the tire. He didn't want a crazy dude in the roads
@@jonathanwildemann3403 If you have experience shooting you know bullets can easily go off target due to recoil. He definitely hit the car too because I doubt he's a good enough shot to consistently hit tires on a moving car in a high stress situation. If anything shooting like that endangers the public because bullets hit bystanders on the regular, and disabling a tire makes him prone to accidents
I would love to know the thoughts of the people who die this way. It's so freaking sad for everyone involved. Like dang. That dude was clearly going through it and needed true help
Needing help and not wanting all your freedom taken is two different things.
@@kawonu2666 how does your reply relate to the op ?
@@flashbazbo694 How does your question make sense? Guy was freaking out about getting locked up and choose to die instead. He feared his freedom being taken more than death. What part do you not get?
Well. He said goodbye to his woman on the phone apparently? I don't know how they knew that but I bet its infidelity issues if that were true. He likely told her his plans before leaving the house.
@@kawonu2666 when you do bad things your good boy rights get taken away
He had many chances.. he was suicidal & it turned out badly. Sadly he knew what was coming😔
That guy knews his life will be over in a minute.
He was death tho
who said he was suicidal? youtube? the police?
The cop did a great job by killing this mass murder
@@blackmilitiatv5195 he actually did in the RUclips video!! Take another listen if u don't believe me.... which I'm sure u don't.