How to convert old 4-pin CFL can lights to LED retrofit the easy way
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- How to install a dimmable LED recessed lighting retrofit trim into an old CFL 4-pin recessed housing without damaging drywall or getting into attic. Only 11.3 watts and a life of 50,000 hrs. Replaces 75watt cfl or equal light bulbs.
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Best video out there for this retrofit. I did three in 90 minutes. Well done! Good camera angle and notes. Thank you.
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Thomas. Just out of curiosity, are you a handy guy? Do you think someone that is not very handy could tackle this task?
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I'm gonna get that retrofit kit from Costco. Thank you for a straight forward video w/o commentary.
Thank you for this video. You saved thousands of people thousands of dollars.
Thank you for this video, super easy for someone whos never done home electrical work before to follow along, Just converted 6 of my kitchen CFL to LED in about 2 hrs. The difference is INSANE!!
Your welcome
Great and very high quality video. Thanks! With your guidance I just retrofitted 6 fluorescent lights with smart LEDs in our kitchen. They look great, wife loves them and they weren't much more expensive than buying the old fluorescent bulbs.
Thank you for your service and you keep on serving us with this very thorough video. Make it a great life.
Great video tutorial! I have 12 in the kitchen to do and thanks to you I have been able to do 2 per hour.
I did optimize your workflow a bit: - loosen the 2 screws at the top of the can before removing the 4 screws that hold it in place
-push the can up
-do all the wire cutting, etc
-feed the red & blue into the can to give more length for cutting, stripping, etc.
-feed the red & blue back into the j box
-finally bring the can down into place to install the light
Great. I’m glad we could help.
Your video was the best one I seen and really helped me out so much. I like that you put a list of instructions as well! Your the best!
Found your video, had this problem, followed your instructions and IT WORKED...thanks so much for what you did for me (us)...
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Thank you very much for the video and for your service, from one Navy vet to another.
Thanks for the video. I did a few retrofit like this but used a very hot short attic to bypass the ballist. I never thought about pulling the can out to gain access.
This is perfect. Just got through replacing 5 of them in the kitchen of my Condo. Worked like a champ and looks terrific. Thank you for the excellent video and description. By the way the 5 took me about 3 and 1/2 hours, some of the cans per pretty stubborn!! Thanks again. I love our new lighting. I abhor CFLs!!
Dennis Tucker Glad it worked out for you
Excellent work, very easily explained & thank you so much for your service to your country!
aaron canales thank you very much.
What a great video! Very nice work! I am doing the same exact thing with almost identical parts that you are removing.
Art thanks my friend.
Worked like a charm. Thanks for this video.
your welcome
Damn, that was a helpful video. I have no idea what I'm doing electrically and this video (plus the graphics) walked me through it. I got tripped up one time because i had 3 black and 3 white wires, but I figured 1 was a pass through... I was right. I gotta tell you though... I muted the audio...
M W glad we could help. Yeah the audio is rough. Lol
I did as shown in the video but kept my 4 pin socket and just used GX24 4 pin male to E27 female converter and used LED bulbs I already had which was more cost effective solution for me. Thank you for your professionally done video and notes.
Grayr Bazikyan your welcome
So what steps do you remove if I were to use the male to female converter? Do I bypass all the rewiring and removal of the transformer box? Just remove bulb, add the converter and that's it? Also, any downside of using the converter vs rewiring? Also, I see the converter says I have to "remove or bypass the ballast"....is that same as transformer box?
@@ZenMika Ballast = transformer. The LEDs are self-ballasted, so they need power directly to them, not through the ballast/transformer. The socket adapter is an option, but the downside is that it is one more element that can fail over time.
I'm Electrically Challenged. I have a new house with nothing but GX24q-3 bulbs and want to convert it to LED like you did. Can you send me a step by step walk through of how you did it and/with what wires to connect? I don't want to spend $1000's on a Electrician if I can do it myself. I liked your idea instead of completely removing the Ballast and putting a whole new fixture in. I'd rather just bypass the Ballast and re-wire using Gx24q to E26 Lamp Base Converters.
@@mattdillon2082 you have 3 bulbs in each can?
THANK YOU THANK YOU ! Do you know why the builder installed a transformer box there? Thanks again for a great video.
Good video. Could lose the music. Onscreen text was helpful although went by pretty fast. Obviously, you can pause it. Question, though. Assuming you have a 14 gauge cable feeding the can and are using an LED that draws something like 10 watts; Can you connect the red and blacks which look to be 18's to the 14 gauge cable. Is that a risk?
Love the video! Question, once you've removed the Transformer/Ballast, and you're left with the 4 wires, 2 reds and 2 blue, does it matter which blue wire or which red wire you use to connect the white and black wire? Just wondering which blue and red wire to discard or not use. Wasn't sure if it mattered or not.
No it doesn't matter. You can even use both red wires together on the black, and both blue wires on the white. But not necessary if only using LED lights.
Excellent video with how-to-instructions. I have three comments to mention if you could assist replying; my ballast is a bit different, wires don't protrude out of the box like yours and others I've seen before, and there are a total of 14 wires (two sets of Black and Blue together, two sets of Red and White together, two Whites together, a Blue and Black together and two Greens and a Ground bound together as well). I haven't started removing/replacing them yet with hope that you might come back with some advise. Thanks, by the way, what band plays the cool music in your video?
+Trust Company, thanks for posting this video--it was just what I needed! My kitchen was remodeled 10 years ago, and at that time CFL's were "state of the art" city codes. Now the bulbs have started burning out, and you can't find them anymore, in all their different pin configurations, tube lengths, etc. They've become the ugly stepchild of lighting, what with mercury in them, and now that versatile LED's are the norm. Anyhow, you did it with 6 inch cans, so I was skeptical about being able to do this with my 4 inch cans, since I didn't think I could fit my hands in the smaller space to do all the cutting and splicing. So, having six fixtures I needed to swap out, I decided to do it from the attic space after all, in 95 degree heat of course... I did the first, most accessible one, and it worked so well using your method that I couldn't wait to finish the job and rid my kitchen of those damn CFL's for good. I converted four of them this way, soaking my clothes with sweat up there. When the last two were inaccessible, I decided I'd throw caution to the wind, now that I had the method down, and try them from below. I'm happy to report it was no problem to get into the 4 inch cans after all, and I wished I'd just done them ALL that way from the beginning, lol. Anyway, great video, very clear and informative; thank you again!
Thats awesome
Dumb question: Is there a 4-prong to e26/e27 adapter available that would bypass having to remove the housing?
How about a 4 pin emergency fixture? is there a special back up for that type of fixture?
Thank you
Not sure what you mean. Can you send photo please to trust1company@gmail.com
Is it the same way if it has a 2way switch
My blue wires continue to have electricity even after my circuit breakers are off. This resulted in shocking me without knowing it would happen. Is this the reason you remove the transformer?
Any issue with the having the terminations exposed inside the can? Potential code and/or safety issue? Perhaps this retrofit is best done with an LED can that comes with a junction box? Great video, very well done, thanks!
There were no terminations exposed and there should not be. Old and cut wires should be pulled out. If they are not it is not a code issue anyway, just a little laziness LOL.
Thank you for the kind comments
@@ProGreenNRGIncTemecula well technically the wire splicing is ok within the can. I didn't even bother bypassing the ballast. It was much easier not to.
@@kineticdyslexic3093 that is not good and neglecting to bypass the ballast is in fact a violation due to the wrong procedures being taken and will eventually result in an electrical fire. Good luck
If we cut all the red, blue, black, and white wires coming from the transformer box, can we just leave them in the junction box? Or do we have to remove them? Thank you for this video!
Jaymin you don’t have to remove the wires but it may be tough to close box. It only takes 30 seconds to remove wires.
I would remove it, but the can I have doesn't have the transformer in the front as your video shows. Theres 2 holes on the bottom rear of the J-box where the red/blue and black/white wires go to so I believe the transformer is in the rear of the J-box. This makes it difficult to remove because its not easily accessible. Thank you for your response!
Just leave them alone after cut then.
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I have 4 8-inch cans from the previous owner of my house and they are running dual 4-pin CFLs. Would the process be the same with pulling the cover plate from behind the bulbs to reach the ballast and then follow the steps from there?
Dan Leuze yes it would be.
@@ProGreenNRGIncTemecula Thanks, I will take a look and see what I find. I it would be capping off one of the 4-pin connections and then using a single 4-pin to convert to the LED.
Dan Leuze correct
Hi! What about two pin CFLs? Will this process apply or is the wiring going to be different? Thanks for any advice you may be able to offer!
Same process.
Thanks! Cross your fingers for me that I don’t have to call an electrician when this is over! :)
@@bryandouglasbailey you'll be fine. No sparkies needed
You say you must replace the sheathing but I cannot see it in the finished can. Can the sheathing go on both wires or must each wire have a separate sheath?
The sheathing can go on both wires as long as they are protected with their own outer jacket, no bare wires touching
@@ProGreenNRGIncTemecula I had a similar question but I don't know what sheathing it is that's being replaced. It says, "important" but doesn't show anything other than a grainy image from too far away. I like everything else about the video but that's quite a hang up.
A couple of my led lights went dark and won’t turn back on, any issue with that or thought on a problem?
Did you apply this method?
@@ProGreenNRGIncTemecula I did and then I went back and double checked my wiring. I wired it it poorly so I went back through and corrected all of them and now they work perfectly. Thank you !
Easy way Phillips direct replacement
I have retrofit but want bulbs instead for smart lights....what steps do I need to take?
nyogrson as long as they are smart bulbs no worries. It’s the WiFi that you should be on point about.
They make an adapter for these. You still bypass the ballast but, instead of cutting out the old 4 pin socket, you leave it in and plug in the adapter. The adapter makes it have a regular lightbulb base.
my canister does not have the hooks to hold the two ears
How long would this take to change out 6 lights?
2-3 hours
If everything goes perfect and you don't have some stubborn cans. Figure about 4 and you should be good!
CFL for led four pin
What about the ground wire?
leave it as it is. You will only will need White + Blue and Black + Red.
so easy.
yes it is. A little hand/eye coordination and the world is ours
And with a 4 pin cfl
Much easier to just rip off the 4 pin and chop it off, and wire it to an edison socket that clips on.
Or just get some 4 pin to edison adapters.
Good idea afterwards to buy some led, cfl, or 60 watts max labels.
Still have to bypass ballast even if using adapter... unless you or using a different base style fluorescent light bulb but don’t understand why you would do that unless the different style bulb is cheaper...
I was doing a quick conversion 10 yeara ago. They didn't have the adapters then, or werent common and expensive.
It would have taken me much more time to have removed the ballast.
So after 10 years, one ballast is kind of bad, and burns out an LED bulb after 6 months, 4 hours a day.
Eneded up replacing that one in my kitchen with a squiggly. Squigglys are less prone to voltage spike issues, and they last about two years in thag one socket. The other 6 kitchen led bulbs in othwr sockets haven't burnt out.
Extra energy consumption is about one extra watt with a good ballast. For a bad ballast???
Get rid of them
Ballasts dont just catch on fire.
Prob not code though.
When i sell the house, i plan on removing nthe ballasts, and wiring the romax going in directly to the socket clip on adapters.
I Also have 12v led stips in the canister. But I will leave it to the new owners to decide if they want me to remove it or not, considering it looks so beautiful at night.
Lit
Only when the switches is on
Is this up to code
alen moradian not sure what you mean by code. But everything done in the video is in California and to code in an electrical box and wire. Where do you live?
@@ProGreenNRGIncTemecula I'm in az. Just had a friend wanting to do this in his condo, he was worried if it would pass an inspection
alen moradian gotcha. It would pass inspection no problem
You must read fast...
Anthonee A our apologies Anthonee. When we make our videos we encourage pausing. 👍. Don’t wanna waste folks time.
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good show this video...
dont have to put currency number in here
Maybe Step 1 is to turn off the power
Chris Dejarme if we need to tell you that then should hire an electrician. 😁