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Excellent. I am a homeowner that has installed led can lights in 6 rooms in my house. This is the best and most concise video on what to consider when installing your own led can lights!
Used 4 inch LED lights in my basement ceiling/Man cave and you are spot on....wired in dimmer switches are best especially for mood and movie night! 👍🏽
Go to your lighting supplier, they will be able to direct you to free training or videos, but this guy is not a lighting specialist, way to close for the 900 lum lights that’s why he needs to dim everything, and he also states that you can install directly under timbers? That will void manufacturing warranty of the light as it’s installed against manufactures instructions and in my country that also voids your fire insurance on your house if found out.
@Mark Jones I get that the don’t heat up that much anymore, but it’s also to keep them cooler by ventilation and if it is a faulty product and catches on fire, it’s less likely to start a real fire if it’s clear of timber, those things aside, it’s illegal in Australia and I’m sure it will be in the uk too, under our electrical regs as:3000, and if you read the instructions it will give a clearance distance, if you don’t follow manufacturer instructions on electrical installation, your insurance company just won’t pay up in the event of a fire, and lights installed in incorrect possession is easy i for them to see when investigating.
@Mark Jones you are so right with it all coming from the same factory in China, I could rattle of a number of brands that use the exact same pcb in there products. So don’t worry about cost so much, but check reviews, when it come to building regs and legal requirements it is law in Australia and the UK. It’s in our electrical regulations (Australian standards:3000) and the BCA (Australian building regulations) so if something go’s wrong you could be liable for civil and criminal charges. And you would be surprised at how good the fire investigation people are, it’s like one of those American crime shows where every case is solved buy finding a random pubic hair 😂 I’m not meaning to troll, I’m just giving some free professional electrical advice.
Much thanks! Am doing kitchen reno right now and will incorporate this helpful knowledge to ensure the best arrangement and avoid any pitfalls. Your channel is excellent!
I look forward for more to come. Solid video i enjoyed it. I installed these thin recessed lights for my dad and it allowed me to install them where a joist is. They work great.
I just installed LED lights in my family room. Installed 9 of them. I got 3, 4 packs at Menards for $45. They color temp is switchable, and I installed an LED dimmer. The light itself is 1/2" thick and the box is approx 3/4".
Does having so many holes in you ceiling cause issues with cooling/heating your home? Will you have discoloration from moisture due to hot air in attic mixing with house cold air?
These lights are nice for all the reasons stated but I've always thought that the best way to use LEDs is in large-format, diffuse lights like a large panel so you eliminate shadows and get a more sun-like effect.
Can you do a video about outdoor LED light dust to dawn. How certain switches is not compatible I had that change 3 of those lights because The old switches are not compatible with the new lights.
Thank you, Ron! Really, this whole thing started as a blog, and "The Honest Carpenter" was just the first thing that came to mind because I wanted to give homeowners and DIYers and inside look at the contracting industry.
Don’t forget guys. Check out “Dim to warm” LEDs. As you dim down the down light - the colour warms up slightly imitating the beautiful lit effect of a traditional halogen down light. And make sure you use 90+ CRI (Colour rendering index). Cheap LED gives of a low CRI which changes the colour of objects giving false colour (black looks brown). That’s why Lamborghini show rooms use hi CRI lamps to make the colours pop and butchers use them to make meat look juicy!!! Good video guys!!! I am a London lighting designer and your video gives good in-site to those getting into installs/design.
I prefer “Twinkly” halogens, but fail on building regulations with regards to efficacies (lumens output per circuit watt). Most consultants call on 110lm/W now - well outside what a halogen can produce.
Awesome video...thumbs up 👍 I have an open floor plan (living, dining, and kitchen). Should I still apply the color temperature rule warmer in the living and dining and brighter in the kitchen or should they all be the same color since they'll all be visible from all areas since I don't have walls? Thanks
The topic that is not covered here at all is that recessed down lights are rarely flattering to humans, by casting shadows under noses, in eye sockets and under chins which create black areas which most folks dislike. Architects like them because they’re not unflattering to buildings, but the kind of side lighting that is produced by wall washers is much kinder to people. Even the up lighting created by some portable fixtures is better at rendering human features by using the ceiling as an intermediate diffuser to reduce many ugly shadows altogether.
Love your channel! I like all the information that you put at the bottom as well. I have a question what brand and where did he get the light speakers from the bathroom
I don't know what brand/model he used, but do a search on the Home Depot site for "LED shower light with speaker". It look like there are a few, but they are not low profile. You would have to locate them where there is no framing in the ceiling.
I have a number 6 question, i have the old big box nailed between the studs....back half in the attick. Can i use the led replacements and finally get to cover the back up... In the winter so much cold air comes in throight the lights, because i have to let em breath to prevent fire
Solid video! Never really took into consideration different light temps for different rooms. I’m adding about 45+ lights, hopefully I can use a smart dimmer switch abs control it with my google home 🤔
My LED can lights have 3 or 4 temperature settings. Other big deal with LED can lights help seal up the heat going up into your attic. Not air tight by themselves, but they drastically reduce the airflow going up.
The previous owners installed these all over our house (about 2-3 years ago). I’ve had three of them fail on us within the first year we moved in. They are warrantied for 5 years, but I believe they should easily last 10-20 years under normal use. Not sure if it was just a bad batch, or something else.
They are so cheap thus when you find a good one, buy extras. They are a cheap as (if not cheaper than) an old bulb. The temp color, style etc can change in the futures.
There are several complaints online about this very issue. We are being sold cheap crap that will fail well before the advertised life expectancy! Then, two years down the road when you need to replace one, you won't be able to find one that will blend with others you installed!
@@dave8059 this is the exact reason I always recommend the older can style, which is often used in new work, but do have old work variations, combined with led Inserts. This way when they do fail, you don't have to replace the light and wire, simply unscrew it and insert new cone+light combo. Gotta think about the future. I generally is 4 inch, but sometimes 3 inch cans can be used. 6 inch ones are going out of style.
5 years is short for a warranty in residential. There are good companies and an infinite number of knockoff brands online. Find a good company. You may have to go to an Electical wholesaler, lighting store, or a good hardware store to find them. We rep Lotus LED lighting. They're the original slim LED lighting manufacturer in North America. Major companies in this field will still be around to seek warranty from and will generally still be building the product or at least have replacement parts (like drivers) for them. I definitely reommend buying an extra unit or 2. Usually what happens when there's a failure is that the drivers (external box that is wired to the main power sends DC power to the fixture) fails. If you swap the light itself out and it doesn't work, then you need the driver box which is pretty easy to replace. Once replaced with your spare, snap a photo of the driver box and the model number off the light itself and contact the company for warranty and they should replace your driver. After the new driver arrives, you have a repalcement head and driver just as before. In short. If you get quality products the warranties are longer because the products are better, the products are FAR more likely to still be available if they break down, and you can reliably get replacment parts so you're not replacing it with something that's close to being the same thing. Hopefully the rest of the lights at your place are OK. Best of luck!
Thanks for the information! I found some really great Slim LED Pot lights from Product Pro Industrial Supplies. They have a US site but I'm in Canada and they have a site dedicated to the Great White North market.
I read somewhere to be cautious of the heat that can be produced by the lights in the ceiling. It could cause moisture in the attic area. With LED is that a problem?
Great, informative video. If I had one suggestion to make though, I would recommend instead of just describing the color of the hues to demonstrate the different options (such as the difference between yellow/orange hues. I am looking for the same Hue as my halogen lights.
An issue I found out the hard way is glare. Some LED are recessed within the can, or have a good defuser. Some dont and dang it is really painful to see them if you look up a bit.
Agreed. It seems like some folks are just glazing over the fact that some of these LED options aren't "recessed" at all, but more of a flush mount type scenario. I'm still a fan of the slightly recessed light with a step-baffle to diffuse the light.
I am thinking of putting them in my living room. I also heard we can't just change the bulb, if we have to replace it we need to buy the whole thing again. Is that really economical?
Forget the color of your room warming up , the temperature of my room always warms up. I have 2 pot lights over each couch in my den and I always have to keep them on low with the dimmer and eventually just turn them off. ESP in the summer. I have tried all kinds of bulbs. Latest has been very small led bulbs and that helps. My ceiling is 8 feet. I wish I had only put in one light over each couch. (Hmmm??? 🤔) What other sort of bulb can you recommend? Thanks.
Great Video. One Question if i may? I have a room 3.6 x3.6, or 12' by 12' in old money, so would 9 led lights be ample set at 3' apart in all directions.?
What's you take on placing led recessed or wafer lights in front of a TV that's across from a bay window and not add glare? Should they go on sides of tv,? Thanks
Great topic. I’d love to see something that goes deeper into design considerations, especially with critiques and other examples. For functionality, I’m trying to figure out how to affordably install LED recessed lighting that syncs with the color temperature of the outdoors. I’ve cheap product that can change color with a physical onboard switch and expensive products that can change color in the bulb (e.g., Phillips Hue), but never cheap and automatic in one solution.
Do a search on the Home Depot site for "LED shower light with speaker". It look like there are a few, but they are not low profile. You would have to locate them where there is no framing in the ceiling.
Check Out the ULTIMATE CARPENTRY CHECKLIST!! *Get your free interactive ebook here* :
www.thehonestcarpenter.com/the-ultimate-carpentry-checklist
This *150-item Visual Glossary* covers every important topic in carpentry. Check off the tools you have, the concepts you understand. And if you don't know a topic, just click on it for an explanation. Every carpenter and DIYer needs this free guide!
Excellent. I am a homeowner that has installed led can lights in 6 rooms in my house. This is the best and most concise video on what to consider when installing your own led can lights!
Used 4 inch LED lights in my basement ceiling/Man cave and you are spot on....wired in dimmer switches are best especially for mood and movie night! 👍🏽
Been an electrician for 10 years, and actually learned a few things [mostly the distance between can lights near walls, and in rooms], wow good job
Go to your lighting supplier, they will be able to direct you to free training or videos, but this guy is not a lighting specialist, way to close for the 900 lum lights that’s why he needs to dim everything, and he also states that you can install directly under timbers? That will void manufacturing warranty of the light as it’s installed against manufactures instructions and in my country that also voids your fire insurance on your house if found out.
@Mark Jones I get that the don’t heat up that much anymore, but it’s also to keep them cooler by ventilation and if it is a faulty product and catches on fire, it’s less likely to start a real fire if it’s clear of timber, those things aside, it’s illegal in Australia and I’m sure it will be in the uk too, under our electrical regs as:3000, and if you read the instructions it will give a clearance distance, if you don’t follow manufacturer instructions on electrical installation, your insurance company just won’t pay up in the event of a fire, and lights installed in incorrect possession is easy i for them to see when investigating.
@Mark Jones you are so right with it all coming from the same factory in China, I could rattle of a number of brands that use the exact same pcb in there products. So don’t worry about cost so much, but check reviews, when it come to building regs and legal requirements it is law in Australia and the UK. It’s in our electrical regulations (Australian standards:3000) and the BCA (Australian building regulations) so if something go’s wrong you could be liable for civil and criminal charges. And you would be surprised at how good the fire investigation people are, it’s like one of those American crime shows where every case is solved buy finding a random pubic hair 😂
I’m not meaning to troll, I’m just giving some free professional electrical advice.
U don't know how important this video was. I didn't even know what these types of lights were called. Bless you
Darn well produced video.. just the right amount of editing and information -seamless, super informative and just about 5 minutes. Wow
Thank you, J Fred! I do everything I can to make then flow well. I really appreciate the feedback! 🙂
@@TheHonestCarpenter Agreed, this is very well done.
Much thanks! Am doing kitchen reno right now and will incorporate this helpful knowledge to ensure the best arrangement and avoid any pitfalls. Your channel is excellent!
Wow. Good points on the ceiling fan and wall color!
I look forward for more to come. Solid video i enjoyed it. I installed these thin recessed lights for my dad and it allowed me to install them where a joist is. They work great.
I was unaware of all of the information in this tutorial so it is very helpful. Thanks for sharing this.
You're welcome, John!
What will happen if you were unaware of all the information in this tutorial?
Short, sweet and to the point, Just the kind of video I like to see!
Getting ready to install lights next week in our living room, glad I found this video! Thx
Well written and compact informative video. I learned a lot about updating on lighting that I didn't know. Thanks!
You're welcome, Dennis!
Thank for this information...now I know how to choose the right color of light.
Thanks for clear instructions. Just didn't pull down hard enough. Gave thumbs up. Will subscribe. Door knob next!
I just installed LED lights in my family room. Installed 9 of them. I got 3, 4 packs at Menards for $45. They color temp is switchable, and I installed an LED dimmer. The light itself is 1/2" thick and the box is approx 3/4".
Straight forward & to the point. Just the way I like it. Always appreciated Ethan. Keep up the good work bud. 😉
This is an excellent resource. Well done.
How far away from the fan blade is best? Thanks!
Very quick and informative. I watched the whole video, great editing!
Does having so many holes in you ceiling cause issues with cooling/heating your home? Will you have discoloration from moisture due to hot air in attic mixing with house cold air?
How do I decide between getting a 4" light vs a 6" for the kitchen ?
Never thought I'd get to enjoy The Black Keys in a recessed lighting video on RUclips. Even if it was for just 1 second.
These lights are nice for all the reasons stated but I've always thought that the best way to use LEDs is in large-format, diffuse lights like a large panel so you eliminate shadows and get a more sun-like effect.
That is true when using LED lights to shoot videos or portraits of people; this is to illuminate a house spaces.
Thanks for the short and to the point video.
Great video tutorial, thanks for sharing!!!
Nice job. You did a great job explaining the light topic.
Well done video, with good, concise info!
Fantastic video. May I please have a link to the Bluetooth speaker led light Harrison used?
I love the shower (stacked stone) any information or pics available. Video was excellent.
That shower is gonna be a b..ch to clean...
Can you do a video about outdoor LED light dust to dawn. How certain switches is not compatible I had that change 3 of those lights because The old switches are not compatible with the new lights.
Very quick and useful clarifications on lighting. Thanks so much
Excellent overview!
How did you come up with “Honest” Carpenter? I like the title as well as all of your videos that I’ve watched so far this week.
Thank you, Ron! Really, this whole thing started as a blog, and "The Honest Carpenter" was just the first thing that came to mind because I wanted to give homeowners and DIYers and inside look at the contracting industry.
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Very informative as always. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely excellent. So clear and so informative. Thank you!
Great video, but with regards to the pink walls. The CRI of the LED is very low. Would be a cheap make. Try aim for
Don’t forget guys. Check out “Dim to warm” LEDs. As you dim down the down light - the colour warms up slightly imitating the beautiful lit effect of a traditional halogen down light. And make sure you use 90+ CRI (Colour rendering index). Cheap LED gives of a low CRI which changes the colour of objects giving false colour (black looks brown). That’s why Lamborghini show rooms use hi CRI lamps to make the colours pop and butchers use them to make meat look juicy!!! Good video guys!!! I am a London lighting designer and your video gives good in-site to those getting into installs/design.
Harry Smith - luxury retail also often uses halogen bulbs for crisp, white light. At least here stateside.
I prefer “Twinkly” halogens, but fail on building regulations with regards to efficacies (lumens output per circuit watt). Most consultants call on 110lm/W now - well outside what a halogen can produce.
Loved this video, getting ready to put in a bunch of these puppies!
awesome video!
Great video!
Awesome video...thumbs up 👍
I have an open floor plan (living, dining, and kitchen). Should I still apply the color temperature rule warmer in the living and dining and brighter in the kitchen or should they all be the same color since they'll all be visible from all areas since I don't have walls? Thanks
Awesome info! Thank you
I love my color-changing Hue lights from Philips. Do these come in color-changing type?
Excellent video! Thanks for all the good info.
Dude, super informative, thank you!
Mine stop working. Do you have a step by step on how to change it for a new one ?
The topic that is not covered here at all is that recessed down lights are rarely flattering to humans, by casting shadows under noses, in eye sockets and under chins which create black areas which most folks dislike. Architects like them because they’re not unflattering to buildings, but the kind of side lighting that is produced by wall washers is much kinder to people. Even the up lighting created by some portable fixtures is better at rendering human features by using the ceiling as an intermediate diffuser to reduce many ugly shadows altogether.
Very informative, thanks. A question please, I have already installed LED lights in all the rooms, should I go for pot light?
I have a project coming up and was wondering how your remove the lights if you need to change them with the spring clips being the way they are.
Very helpful video. Just getting ready to add lights to our bathroom and this was a great jump off point.
Great to hear jon! Good luck with the project!
Love your channel! I like all the information that you put at the bottom as well. I have a question what brand and where did he get the light speakers from the bathroom
I don't know what brand/model he used, but do a search on the Home Depot site for "LED shower light with speaker". It look like there are a few, but they are not low profile. You would have to locate them where there is no framing in the ceiling.
Jobacuda thanks man. I appreciate it.
Really good info and presentation. Thanks much!!
Great information❤️❤️❤️
I 😍 RUclips I live in Raleigh NC and wanted to renovate all my lighting in my home!! Thanks I will be calling these guys soon!!
I have a number 6 question, i have the old big box nailed between the studs....back half in the attick.
Can i use the led replacements and finally get to cover the back up...
In the winter so much cold air comes in throight the lights, because i have to let em breath to prevent fire
Can you put colored film over LED recessed lights to change the color
We have 16’ ceilings in our living room. What color, lumen, and spread would you suggest for our recessed LED lighting?
Thank you for the information
Solid video! Never really took into consideration different light temps for different rooms. I’m adding about 45+ lights, hopefully I can use a smart dimmer switch abs control it with my google home 🤔
Make sure to buy some extra smart dimmers, you will need to replace that trash every two year
Thanks so much for the thorough video. Straight to the point.
whats ur opinion on these LED pot lights with the ability to switch from 3000k to 40000k to 5000k? are they as reliable
My LED can lights have 3 or 4 temperature settings. Other big deal with LED can lights help seal up the heat going up into your attic. Not air tight by themselves, but they drastically reduce the airflow going up.
Love this informative video
Plus you posted a link... that's great.
The previous owners installed these all over our house (about 2-3 years ago). I’ve had three of them fail on us within the first year we moved in. They are warrantied for 5 years, but I believe they should easily last 10-20 years under normal use. Not sure if it was just a bad batch, or something else.
They are so cheap thus when you find a good one, buy extras. They are a cheap as (if not cheaper than) an old bulb. The temp color, style etc can change in the futures.
There are several complaints online about this very issue. We are being sold cheap crap that will fail well before the advertised life expectancy! Then, two years down the road when you need to replace one, you won't be able to find one that will blend with others you installed!
@@dave8059 this is the exact reason I always recommend the older can style, which is often used in new work, but do have old work variations, combined with led Inserts. This way when they do fail, you don't have to replace the light and wire, simply unscrew it and insert new cone+light combo. Gotta think about the future. I generally is 4 inch, but sometimes 3 inch cans can be used. 6 inch ones are going out of style.
5 years is short for a warranty in residential.
There are good companies and an infinite number of knockoff brands online. Find a good company. You may have to go to an Electical wholesaler, lighting store, or a good hardware store to find them. We rep Lotus LED lighting. They're the original slim LED lighting manufacturer in North America.
Major companies in this field will still be around to seek warranty from and will generally still be building the product or at least have replacement parts (like drivers) for them.
I definitely reommend buying an extra unit or 2.
Usually what happens when there's a failure is that the drivers (external box that is wired to the main power sends DC power to the fixture) fails. If you swap the light itself out and it doesn't work, then you need the driver box which is pretty easy to replace. Once replaced with your spare, snap a photo of the driver box and the model number off the light itself and contact the company for warranty and they should replace your driver. After the new driver arrives, you have a repalcement head and driver just as before.
In short. If you get quality products the warranties are longer because the products are better, the products are FAR more likely to still be available if they break down, and you can reliably get replacment parts so you're not replacing it with something that's close to being the same thing.
Hopefully the rest of the lights at your place are OK. Best of luck!
Great video. I'm fixing to put cans in my dining room that has a bank of cabinets and a fan. Thanks for the info!
very helpful, thanks
Good job
Thanks for the information! I found some really great Slim LED Pot lights from Product Pro Industrial Supplies. They have a US site but I'm in Canada and they have a site dedicated to the Great White North market.
Great video. Thanks for your recommendations.
I read somewhere to be cautious of the heat that can be produced by the lights in the ceiling. It could cause moisture in the attic area. With LED is that a problem?
Excellent!!
Great video. Thank you!!
Wanted to install LED recessed lights in basement but can it be done with drop down ceilings?
Great video! Does anybody know if they make a flush mount led that you can control the dimming and the K color on a wall switch or remote?
Thank you
Fantastic Video! my paranoia lies in replacing the bulbs. what happens down the road when the bulb eventually dies?
Replace the whole unit. 10 plus years later it isn't a big deal
Great, informative video. If I had one suggestion to make though, I would recommend instead of just describing the color of the hues to demonstrate the different options (such as the difference between yellow/orange hues. I am looking for the same Hue as my halogen lights.
Do you have a link to a recommended fixture with the bluetooth speaker technology? Thanks for the great video.
See my reply to John White.
@@jobacuda4472 . . . I don't see a reply to "John White". Can you plz provide the link. Thx!
An issue I found out the hard way is glare. Some LED are recessed within the can, or have a good defuser. Some dont and dang it is really painful to see them if you look up a bit.
Agreed. It seems like some folks are just glazing over the fact that some of these LED options aren't "recessed" at all, but more of a flush mount type scenario. I'm still a fan of the slightly recessed light with a step-baffle to diffuse the light.
Simple straight to the point perfect thanks 👌
what about beam angle? do things change from an 8ft to 10ft ceiling?
I am thinking of putting them in my living room. I also heard we can't just change the bulb, if we have to replace it we need to buy the whole thing again. Is that really economical?
Perfect information. Just what I needed. Thank you.
Now the led lights have a button that can adjust
Thanks
This is wonderful. Thanks
What is the name of the speaker light and model number used in the shower ?
Forget the color of your room warming up , the temperature of my room always warms up. I have 2 pot lights over each couch in my den and I always have to keep them on low with the dimmer and eventually just turn them off. ESP in the summer. I have tried all kinds of bulbs. Latest has been very small led bulbs and that helps. My ceiling is 8 feet. I wish I had only put in one light over each couch.
(Hmmm??? 🤔) What other sort of bulb can you recommend? Thanks.
Great Video. One Question if i may? I have a room 3.6 x3.6, or 12' by 12' in old money, so would 9 led lights be ample set at 3' apart in all directions.?
I found your channel while browsing other similar channels and I’m now a new subscriber, great videos and information 👀👍🏽
Thanks Jason! A lot more stuff coming up soon 🙂
Can I get some information on the recessed LED Bluetooth shower light?
Are they meant to be wired parallel or in series?
What size you look to be using 6 inch but I heard that 5 and 4 are less noticeable. What do you think?
My living room has no overhead lighting. Would the LED lights be cheaper to have installed?
What's you take on placing led recessed or wafer lights in front of a TV that's across from a bay window and not add glare? Should they go on sides of tv,? Thanks
Great topic. I’d love to see something that goes deeper into design considerations, especially with critiques and other examples. For functionality, I’m trying to figure out how to affordably install LED recessed lighting that syncs with the color temperature of the outdoors. I’ve cheap product that can change color with a physical onboard switch and expensive products that can change color in the bulb (e.g., Phillips Hue), but never cheap and automatic in one solution.
What is recommended for bedrooms
Can you provide manufacturer name/link for that shower light speaker ? Thanks !
I want shower speakers!
Do a search on the Home Depot site for "LED shower light with speaker". It look like there are a few, but they are not low profile. You would have to locate them where there is no framing in the ceiling.
They make can lights with adjustable kelvin settings now !