I just sold a Japanese Tama hi hat stand, without clutch, I traded it for a Pdp two-leg hi hat stand... the rod on the Pdp is too thick and can't feed the clutch through the Pdp rod...
I just got (& love) the Tama one. But mine is the *Tama Quick Set Sizzle Touch hi hat clutch.* Basically it's a 3-way clutch, with settings for open, closed, or partially open (for sizzle) when playing double bass. After learning it, I *love* it. Only one push & its set. Quick. Easy. (& fine dialing in the top hat). It wouldn't fit over the rod of my (1986) Ludwig stand. But it fits/works great on my CB hi hat stand.
I play Pearls so naturally I got that one, and I love it but I would own any of them. The most important thing is to have one of them in your cymbal bag wherever you bring it.
Great info! I just purchased the Tama clutch! I am a Tama guy, so it makes sense to me! I love the red rubber piece that allows more flow of the top cymbal! I also use that system for the cymbals, so I wish that Tama would have stayed with the two side release, like the Pearl version. It matches more what the cymbal system uses. That is the only thing that I think would make the Tama better. I have to get used to a different way to use the clutch, but still way better than your standard clutch! Worth the $18 difference in price for sure!
I tried the DW incremental clutch on a DW cable hi-hat stand, and the amount of torque required to move the lever was enough to unscrew the pull rod before the lever ever moved. Same with using it on a regular DW 5500 hi-hat stand. It only worked on a hi-hat arm, since it has a fixed pull rod. What stand are you using it on in this video?
the DW incremental clutch is just stupid. I bought it and tried to use it live, but trying to move the clutch back and forth fully while playing was next to impossible. I'm waiting for the tama STDC7 drop clutch.
Pearl all day. Once I get the top cymbal height set, I lock it in with the Allen key and never have to touch it again. Then I know the lock and felts will work and all is good. The others don’t have that.
I use the Tama one for my regular hi hat stand and the DW incremental clutch for my aux hi hat. About the Tama I have to say that it's easier than you showed here, you can take the felt at the same time than the "locker"? ( I don't know how that piece is called), you just have to grab them both with your finger and pull of them at the same time.... no rocket science there. What I don't like about it is that red piece of plastic instead of the upper felt, that's supposed to be designed to increment the cymbal resonance. And yes, it does, maybe more than I like, but at the same time, it makes more difficult to control the cymbal, specially when you play quick with your foot. Not a problem anyway, I've just replaced it for another felt and that's it, perfect. What I like a lot from this clutch, besides the quick lock system (or whatever they name it) is that it has a plastic sleeve to protect your cymbal, just like most cymbal stands, but saddly almost no other hi hat clutch. With most of them you set your upper cymbal in direct contact with a thread, and with other "quick-lock-whatever-is-called-x-brand", maybe there's no thread but still metal to metal contact, and I don't think it's good for the cymbal. So that's why I prefer the Tama one. And regarding the DW incremental clutch, that is exactly the only point I don't like of it, the cymbal-to-thread contact, but I still use it because it works great and I didn't find another one where you can control like that the opening of your x-hats, I mean not only open-closed, but graduating the opening. I'm looking for a sleeve that fits in it, but I still didn't found a proper one.
Hi Isi. Thanks for your comment. The Tama Clutch in this video was brand new out of the box so maybe that was the problem why the opening of this Lock (also don't know how to describe it :-) ) felt a little heavy to me at first.
@@ThomannsDrumBash yes, it's possible, but you know, the felt will give up a bit when you do that a few times, just like any other. Anyway, I don't think it's a big issue. Sometimes we can get obsessed by an insignificance. I like this kind of clutches because they are very comfortable and easy to manipulate, but I use it just because it's the one that came with my hi hat stand when I bought it (a Speed Cobra). Honestly, I've never been in a situation where 10 seconds more or less to set my hi hat up made any difference. The sleeve to protect the top cymbal seems to me way more important. Everyone has its own preferences, I guess =P Great review, by the way... =)
yes the bottom kinda locks on with two side pins, and the top nut has a spring that keeps constant pressure from loosing...came out at least 20 yrs ago was ahead of its time...and still popular today. Taye drums has one just like it with their name on it....might compare the two on a video..oh like the way you do your show....@@ThomannsDrumBash
Always thought it was really ignorant making us play on house kits with broken hardware etc… Never liked it being the norm as I felt NO guitar player EVER would play on a house guitar or house amps that were completely pooched, and no one would ever say to them “just play what they have here, and don’t make a big fuss. This isn’t Woodstock and no one cares what you sound like”. Heard that far too many times as I am sure others have as well
gibraltar quick release clutch is terrible. no matter how hard you tighten the wing nut it doesn't hold the rod as it should. definitely a design flaw.
Tama clutch have a rubber protection for cymbal hole. And that's why I think that Tama is a winner
I just sold a Japanese Tama hi hat stand, without clutch, I traded it for a Pdp two-leg hi hat stand... the rod on the Pdp is too thick and can't feed the clutch through the Pdp rod...
@@albertosotelo9969 Then DW clutch is the solution
Tama one looked all plastic. Like it would fail/fall apart after a while.
@@Carriesaglock exactly
Remo Quick release hihat clutch is my favorite. Ross Percussion is the same exact clutch as the Remo.
I use the Pearl one on my PDP hi hat stand and the Gibraltar as a backup on my stickbag, they are great and reliable!
Great!
I love the Pearl one but I've used the Tama and it's good too. I just prefer the locking mechanism of the Pearl. Plus it looks pretty sweet too.
I just got (& love) the Tama one. But mine is the *Tama Quick Set Sizzle Touch hi hat clutch.* Basically it's a 3-way clutch, with settings for open, closed, or partially open (for sizzle) when playing double bass. After learning it, I *love* it.
Only one push & its set. Quick. Easy. (& fine dialing in the top hat).
It wouldn't fit over the rod of my (1986) Ludwig stand. But it fits/works great on my CB hi hat stand.
I have the Gibraltar right now and had it for about a year and I like it. Getting the Tama one with my new hihat stand
I play Pearls so naturally I got that one, and I love it but I would own any of them. The most important thing is to have one of them in your cymbal bag wherever you bring it.
Great info! I just purchased the Tama clutch! I am a Tama guy, so it makes sense to me! I love the red rubber piece that allows more flow of the top cymbal! I also use that system for the cymbals, so I wish that Tama would have stayed with the two side release, like the Pearl version. It matches more what the cymbal system uses. That is the only thing that I think would make the Tama better. I have to get used to a different way to use the clutch, but still way better than your standard clutch! Worth the $18 difference in price for sure!
that DW clutch was a cool bit of gear! but cheese is awesome!!!!!!!!!
I tried the DW incremental clutch on a DW cable hi-hat stand, and the amount of torque required to move the lever was enough to unscrew the pull rod before the lever ever moved. Same with using it on a regular DW 5500 hi-hat stand. It only worked on a hi-hat arm, since it has a fixed pull rod. What stand are you using it on in this video?
I think which is lightest is important to maintain spring action
the DW incremental clutch is just stupid. I bought it and tried to use it live, but trying to move the clutch back and forth fully while playing was next to impossible. I'm waiting for the tama STDC7 drop clutch.
The DW One touch clutch is my favorite
Pearl all day. Once I get the top cymbal height set, I lock it in with the Allen key and never have to touch it again.
Then I know the lock and felts will work and all is good.
The others don’t have that.
Remo Quicklock HiHat Clutch is the best! I like the Tama Quickset clutch too. I wouldn't touch that DW crap with a ten foot drumstick.
I use the Tama one for my regular hi hat stand and the DW incremental clutch for my aux hi hat. About the Tama I have to say that it's easier than you showed here, you can take the felt at the same time than the "locker"? ( I don't know how that piece is called), you just have to grab them both with your finger and pull of them at the same time.... no rocket science there. What I don't like about it is that red piece of plastic instead of the upper felt, that's supposed to be designed to increment the cymbal resonance. And yes, it does, maybe more than I like, but at the same time, it makes more difficult to control the cymbal, specially when you play quick with your foot. Not a problem anyway, I've just replaced it for another felt and that's it, perfect. What I like a lot from this clutch, besides the quick lock system (or whatever they name it) is that it has a plastic sleeve to protect your cymbal, just like most cymbal stands, but saddly almost no other hi hat clutch. With most of them you set your upper cymbal in direct contact with a thread, and with other "quick-lock-whatever-is-called-x-brand", maybe there's no thread but still metal to metal contact, and I don't think it's good for the cymbal. So that's why I prefer the Tama one.
And regarding the DW incremental clutch, that is exactly the only point I don't like of it, the cymbal-to-thread contact, but I still use it because it works great and I didn't find another one where you can control like that the opening of your x-hats, I mean not only open-closed, but graduating the opening. I'm looking for a sleeve that fits in it, but I still didn't found a proper one.
Hi Isi. Thanks for your comment. The Tama Clutch in this video was brand new out of the box so maybe that was the problem why the opening of this Lock (also don't know how to describe it :-) ) felt a little heavy to me at first.
@@ThomannsDrumBash yes, it's possible, but you know, the felt will give up a bit when you do that a few times, just like any other. Anyway, I don't think it's a big issue. Sometimes we can get obsessed by an insignificance. I like this kind of clutches because they are very comfortable and easy to manipulate, but I use it just because it's the one that came with my hi hat stand when I bought it (a Speed Cobra). Honestly, I've never been in a situation where 10 seconds more or less to set my hi hat up made any difference. The sleeve to protect the top cymbal seems to me way more important. Everyone has its own preferences, I guess =P
Great review, by the way... =)
Yes, that’s right :) thanks a lot!
Good point. Plastic sleeve protector is the one of the most important things to me
There’s only on clutch that really makes a difference. The Remo one.
What´s it called? I´d like to check it out as well.
Remo Quick release. Is the same as Taye or Ross quick release...all made by the same company .
The best clutch is the one that holds your cymbal!!!
Die DW Clutch ist cool. Benutze ich in Verbindung mit meinem Paiste PSTX Stack
Ich kannte die vorher gar nicht!
Please, I need to know what brand is the snare you use in the video! Sounds absolutely awesome!!
That's probably because It's tuned good
try the Remo clutch.
Will do. Thanks
yes the bottom kinda locks on with two side pins, and the top nut has a spring that keeps constant pressure from loosing...came out at least 20 yrs ago was ahead of its time...and still popular today. Taye drums has one just like it with their name on it....might compare the two on a video..oh like the way you do your show....@@ThomannsDrumBash
Thanks Curt. I´ll definetly check both out!
@@ThomannsDrumBash yes, that's the original, LOVE IT! Also what clutches have a sleeve? I believe tama has one on theirs, but nobody else?
I have the Remo love it!
that fucking happen to me every time at festivals. thankyou i'm not alone
You´re welcome!
Ok this is awesome! I need one xD
Thanks
Remo quick clutch is the best made one out there.
i use the Tama clutch even though i am a Pearl guy
Remo is the best for me.
Remo clutch is the best
Always thought it was really ignorant making us play on house kits with broken hardware etc… Never liked it being the norm as I felt NO guitar player EVER would play on a house guitar or house amps that were completely pooched, and no one would ever say to them “just play what they have here, and don’t make a big fuss. This isn’t Woodstock and no one cares what you sound like”. Heard that far too many times as I am sure others have as well
gibraltar quick release clutch is terrible. no matter how hard you tighten the wing nut it doesn't hold the rod as it should. definitely a design flaw.