The Ultimate Debate: Should James Bond Wear Rolex or Omega?

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  • 007: Rolex or Omega? A simple question, one that has polarised the watch community for years. But there is something inherently different about both brands, how they have evolved and the development of James Bond's character over the decades.
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  • @cjyu2
    @cjyu2 4 года назад +362

    Omega cos by the time they receive the Rolex they would've finished a few movies already

    • @MrAbstractPerson
      @MrAbstractPerson 4 года назад +6

      Funniest comment on RUclips hahahhahahjajh

    • @dineshrashid2766
      @dineshrashid2766 4 года назад +2

      cjyu2 I wouldn’t be so sure about that, No Time To Die is coming out 6 years after Spectre.

    • @malikshabazz7596
      @malikshabazz7596 3 года назад +3

      You are near very right, by the time you receive your Rolex you maybe bankrupt or be in the grave yard .

    • @somnumna2606
      @somnumna2606 9 месяцев назад +1

      Brilliant.

  • @ashleyrhodes9974
    @ashleyrhodes9974 4 года назад +96

    Haven't taken my Omega Seamaster off for 24 years apart from cleaning, servicing and hospital stays, so for me it's got to be Omega.

    • @MFloresReviews
      @MFloresReviews 3 года назад +2

      That’s gonna be an epic watch to pass on to your next of kin.

    • @skillbro7817
      @skillbro7817 3 года назад +2

      For me to💪🏻 one of the best things i ever buy

    • @spittinvenom9671
      @spittinvenom9671 3 года назад +2

      Love my electric ⚡️ blue dial Seamaster. Takes a f n beating!!!

    • @Valera_Scotland
      @Valera_Scotland 3 года назад +1

      @@spittinvenom9671 I'm considering one used in decent condition. The 41mm on bracelet. Could you please let me know what it's like? Also because of the age, is it worth spending over 2k? I love the metal bezel and the dial, and how thin it is. But have never seen one in real life

    • @spittinvenom9671
      @spittinvenom9671 3 года назад +1

      @@Valera_Scotland it’s a beast of a watch. The light hitting the electric ⚡️ blue dial is hypnotic. 2k used is high but it’s such an iconic piece. I’ve been beating mine up for 15 years. Same with my wife who has the medium sized dial (no longer made). We both went quartz movement because I wanted a watch that was always ready on vacation. It’s simple, well crafted and a consummate beauty. Only one person told me I needed to upgrade and I almost slapped his teeth in. Then I noticed he was wearing a $200 Rolex wannabe and he may not know an Omega from his ass.

  • @_baller
    @_baller 4 года назад +62

    The Omega, Bond is sophisticated without being flashy

  • @therapiststeve3294
    @therapiststeve3294 4 года назад +17

    Rolex has somewhat abandoned its Tool Watch heritage in favor of Luxury branding, which gave the opening to Omega to swoop in and become Bond's, well, tool watch. When it comes to style & luxury, Omega is no slouch, but their identity, as demonstrated by their price point, is more about inclusivity rather than exclusivity. That's not to say Luxury isn't in Omega's DNA, it's just not the only thing.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +3

      Eloquently said, Steve. That's how I wanted to word it without angering the audience ;) The brands have diverged into different areas I believe. One more Luxury, the other more Sports / Tool oriented. The character would probably go for what "Works" instead of what's "Cool" - then it's thinking about using Taxpayers money etc ;) Great point

    • @therapiststeve3294
      @therapiststeve3294 4 года назад +2

      @@ID-Guy Thank you for the kind words...and yet another awesome video. I could talk all day about Bond, lol. Anecdotally I have noticed that many of the guys who've gotten into the luxury side of watch collecting did so with the Omega Seamaster. Oisin O'Malley, of The Timeless Watch Channel, refers to the Omega Seamaster as "The Gateway Drug" of Luxury watch collecting. I think he's spot on. Be that as it may, almost all still lust for a Rolex and hopefully work their way up to one.,..with the journey being the reward.

    • @speedypaul2314
      @speedypaul2314 4 года назад +2

      @@therapiststeve3294 some of us now saving for the new Omega models first, wow they are getting pricey !!

    • @therapiststeve3294
      @therapiststeve3294 4 года назад +1

      @@speedypaul2314 They are, but model for model they're about half the price of their Rolex brethren...and many feel, technologically superior. wrt price, I've done very well with Geremi from the Palm Beach, Little Switzerland store in Aruba. I believe you can deal with him and their HQ will ship (Duty Free). LS is a chain with stores throughout the Caribbean. They used to be owned in part by Tiffany. They have their own credit options which are quite flexible. Good luck!

  • @pierrelewis5935
    @pierrelewis5935 4 года назад +28

    The Omega SM300 was watch of choice for the SAS and Royal Marines (including SBS) since at least 1966. Bond was most likely SBS and Omega man.

    • @Madmanmarque
      @Madmanmarque 4 года назад +3

      The Royal Navy also supplied Rolex 5517 watches to their divers, so Rolex would also be a choice. Also, Fleming gave him a Rolex...

    • @VolkerHett
      @VolkerHett 3 года назад +4

      @@Madmanmarque And Bond is a naval officer!

  • @richardcullen819
    @richardcullen819 4 года назад +107

    I think it should be Omega ! You don’t need James getting stabbed for his watch while walking true London.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +14

      This has to be one of the top comments by a country mile hahaha!

    • @UGA.D
      @UGA.D 4 года назад +3

      HA HA HA HA!

    • @CH-yp5by
      @CH-yp5by 4 года назад +5

      @Mark Michael Nah they just use Novichok nerve agent and pretend to be Russian tourists.

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 4 года назад +2

      Or a Bond girl getting acid thrown in her face.

    • @ultimaetsolder
      @ultimaetsolder 4 года назад +4

      Welcome to diversity.

  • @OLOHEKAI
    @OLOHEKAI 4 года назад +33

    My first watch was my grandfather’s Rolex Submariner which he gave me when I became an Eagle Scout.
    When I graduated from graduate school my father gave me an Omega Seamaster.
    So both, though linked to the Bond films, have a more sentimental and visceral connection for me.

  • @michaelturner7949
    @michaelturner7949 4 года назад +17

    When I saw Roger Moore wear a Submariner in Live and Let Die, it changed my life. In 1975 aged 19, I began wearing Rolex for the rest of my life!

  • @dylanlamb8710
    @dylanlamb8710 4 года назад +79

    In all practicality, he should probably wear a G Shock 👍🏻

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +10

      This is probably the best answer of all...

    • @dylanlamb8710
      @dylanlamb8710 4 года назад +8

      Mine has so many buttons, it probably has a laser in it somewhere....lol

    • @briansutherland5919
      @briansutherland5919 4 года назад

      Good shout.

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman 4 года назад

      Gshock wasn't around until '83.

    • @dylanlamb8710
      @dylanlamb8710 4 года назад +2

      Bud Owens James Bond isn’t real...and new movie comes out this year, so I don’t know what you mean.

  • @stephens2r338
    @stephens2r338 4 года назад +5

    You hit the nail on its head. Finaly someone understands the finer points and cuts through the marketing BS. Through out all the books the author only mentions a watch once " bond glanced at his rolex" Thank you for your post.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      In hindsight, I should have expanded more on some other details, like looking at the different actors portraying the character and which brand suits their demeanour. BUT It was a fun exercise! And thank you so, so much for the comment, Stephen!

    • @michaelbishop9157
      @michaelbishop9157 4 года назад

      I think it's also because Fleming wore the explorer

  • @stevefox8605
    @stevefox8605 4 года назад +29

    Omega, way too many negative connotations associated with Rolex in the modern world - fine to wear a Rolex back when they were real tools (if Fleming had written Bond now there's no way he'd have a Rolex, wrong image entirely-maybe an apple watch or G-shock in the field) , but a way too negative image in the modern day. Best Bond line ever was "Rolex?" "no, Omega" 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @TheWhiteLife
    @TheWhiteLife 4 года назад +3

    The scene in Casino Royale when Vesper is attempting to profile Bond on the train summarises this argument. She says, "Former SAS types with easy smiles and expensive watches.... Rolex?", to which Bond quickly ripostes "Omega". In that moment, it is signalled that things have moved on, Bond has chosen Omega over Rolex. Clever piece of marketing, I'd like to know what it cost to write that line into the film.
    For my own part, my first expensive watch was a Brosnan era Seamaster, as he rescued the franchise after an ageing Moore and a wooden Dalton almost did for Bond what Spectre have never quite managed.
    However, the true Bond watch is and always will be the Submariner, To which end, I have subsequently bought one (no date, naturally). The main problem (in my mind) with Omega cementing themselves as the archetypal Bond watch is their desire to change Bond's watch in every film latterly; there's no consistency, no recognition. The Submariner was identifiable regardless of actor, it was as constant as his penchant for Vodka Martinis or his Walther PPK. During the Brosnan era, the blue-faced Seamaster Professional was showcased through its gadgetry, but since Craig has taken over the reins, he changes watches too often, purely to shift the latest model. For a character who is constantly on the move, I feel it unlikely that Bond would carry a spare watch for different occasions, nor spend his downtime between assignments flipping watches. But then again, Bond films always require you to check your preconceptions of reality at the door of the cinema.

  • @traviswatts6661
    @traviswatts6661 4 года назад +29

    Both Rolex and Omega represent the character of James Bond well in my opinion. 😉

  • @matthewrikihana6818
    @matthewrikihana6818 4 года назад +29

    Bond drives an Austin Martin, bond drives a Lotus.
    The Submariner looked like something Bond picked up while in the regular Navy and kept wearing. A personal touch. That was cool for the 50s and 60s.
    The Omega watches were and look like Q issued them.
    So just as the MOD changes suppliers so too will James change watches.
    Perhaps he should have a CWC G10 or W10?

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +5

      Austin Martin, like what you did there ;) I really, really like your analysis of the two sets of brands. How bizarre is it that now the latest "Bond Watch" from Omega has all the MilSpec "inspired" Hallmarks? spooky... Still, I'd love for a simpler watch from a simpler time. Just give me a 1016 or a Railmaster and I'd be happy

    • @UGA.D
      @UGA.D 4 года назад +4

      "Perhaps he should have a CWC G10 or W10" Good call!

    • @chiliprepper7678
      @chiliprepper7678 4 года назад +1

      @@ID-Guy Broad Arrow Rune. Shouldn't Omega pay MOD some amount of Royalties for its use?

    • @ianhiscock9440
      @ianhiscock9440 4 года назад

      R A I think in the Goldfinger book, Fleming has Bond move from his trusty Bentley Continental GT to an Aston DB Mk III....?

    • @Youcantleavethisempty01
      @Youcantleavethisempty01 4 года назад +1

      He should wear a Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer Mechanical for the rugged simplicity and a Fears for the British heritage 😊

  • @TheSlowoldman
    @TheSlowoldman 4 года назад +16

    Both brands could be 007's watch of choice, elegant tool watches ready to stand up to whatever demand he would ask of them. I will go with what his creator had him wear, Rolex.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      I agree, bud. They both serve their purpose. It's interesting seeing how the two brands have developed over time (and where they sit nowadays) Thanks for the comment, brother!

  • @BeckVMH
    @BeckVMH 4 года назад +83

    If true to Fleming, it be a Rolex. However, with the “sheep mentality” of the mass market Rolex doesn’t need Bond.

    • @derekshearer9049
      @derekshearer9049 4 года назад +1

      Love my GMT master ll black. Baa, Baa. Lol

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +15

      Imagine Blancpain struck a deal with the Bond franchise? A Fifty Fathoms would be too badass...

    • @derekshearer9049
      @derekshearer9049 4 года назад +5

      @@ID-Guy. Not many people know the brand. I think it would be very interesting. Seeing that Rolex was originally Founded in England and lan Fleming wore an Explorer, it should be Rolex. However given the fact Blancpain is one of the oldest watch manufacturers in the world l could definitely see James sporting a Fifty Fathoms.

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 4 года назад +1

      @@ID-Guy i can see that happen though. Both Omega and BP are owned by the Swatch group. Blancpain is not Breguet where they see their watches as 'art'. They see Blancpain as just a watch.

    • @BadeniaFilme
      @BadeniaFilme 4 года назад +7

      Staying true to Fleming would mean an Explorer I.

  • @ID-Guy
    @ID-Guy  4 года назад

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  • @jackyoung7097
    @jackyoung7097 4 года назад +2

    Answer is: both. Like the gradual change of the actors playing the Bond role. So too is the gradual change of the watch brand. Maybe with a new Bond we will have Breitling or Bremont. Both companies should throw money 💰 at getting the endorsement. It will revive them.

  • @Justdisco2
    @Justdisco2 3 года назад +5

    The Omega seamaster 300 is the watch of the modern James Bond, Had the Omega seamaster 300 that pierce and Daniel wore, Been available to Sean Connery’s James Bond or it’s creator Ian Fleming, I’m sure they would have wore it.

  • @visionist7
    @visionist7 4 года назад +9

    I can definitely see Moore wearing a vintage Seamaster

  • @blueshirtbuddah1665
    @blueshirtbuddah1665 4 года назад +9

    Love the video IDGuy, a great job as always. For me, James Bond was always and will always be a Rolex man, just as Ian Fleming intended.

  • @naturalLin
    @naturalLin 3 года назад +19

    Omega, with Rolex, villains will ask him: "is that real?"

    • @cfcblue8
      @cfcblue8 3 года назад +2

      “Name’s Bond, James Bond. And yes the Rolex is real”

    • @stephenfarrell4796
      @stephenfarrell4796 2 года назад +1

      😂😂😂

  • @scope1122
    @scope1122 4 года назад +31

    Ian Fleming wrote in the books: "He could not just wear a watch. It had to be a Rolex."

    • @keats27
      @keats27 3 года назад +6

      He wrote that before Rolexes became the watch of the upper middle class. They wear them, but they have no idea why.

    • @thenameisYU
      @thenameisYU 2 года назад +2

      He also wrote that because he wore one himself, an explorer.

  • @UGA.D
    @UGA.D 4 года назад +1

    1 vote for Omega. And Aqua Terra, specifically. Though Rolex may have been first, Omega is legit.
    From Jason Heaton, writing for HODINKEE (December 13, 2019): "Omega had a stint as official supplier to the Royal Navy and its form factor even became the Ministry of Defence’s standard, with its sword hands and a fully hashed bezel. In 1995, when the Bond franchise was rebooting with Pierce Brosnan, costume designer Lindy Hemming, chose Omega for the wrist of the hero partly because she remembers seeing a Seamaster on the wrist of a relative who was a Royal Navy man."

  • @jimlittle5769
    @jimlittle5769 3 года назад +2

    My favorite Bond is Craig, followed by Connery , then Brosnan. I go Omega.

  • @matthewfriend2230
    @matthewfriend2230 3 года назад +1

    I own the omega sea master, bought it in 1996, don’t take it off, except for showing. For me, I think 007, should stick with omega. I prefer it over all my time pieces, because it is timeless. Just my opinion, but it’s an excellent time piece. Matt

  • @seanlukecorroon
    @seanlukecorroon 4 года назад +7

    Pierce Brosnan is the most iconic Bond in my opinion. Also grew up playing it on the playstation in the 90s so the movies hold a large amount of nostalgia for me.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +6

      You and me both, brother... That bloody SMP300 will be ingrained in our minds forever ;)

    • @seanlukecorroon
      @seanlukecorroon 4 года назад +2

      @R A You must hate bond.... he's the definition and stereotype of bond. Dalton and Lazenby definitely further down the list.

    • @seanlukecorroon
      @seanlukecorroon 4 года назад +5

      Ive read the books mister 'facts' and I disagree. I can pipe up with my opinion its a free world ;)

    • @seanlukecorroon
      @seanlukecorroon 4 года назад +5

      @R A kid? You sound really butt hurt about it.. hope your okay.

    • @tmacrae
      @tmacrae 4 года назад

      R A also going to chime in here and say I agree, Dalton was one of the best and trueist to form.

  • @olemanolete1
    @olemanolete1 4 года назад +6

    Omega, always Omega

  • @garywilson3904
    @garywilson3904 4 года назад +2

    If an omega is good enough for Bond it’s good enough for me.. Magnum P.I. had a gmt master Pepsi. If it’s good enough for Tom Selleck it’s good enough for me which is why I have both

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw 3 года назад

      Or just buy the watch you like rather than what made up characters like.🙄🙄

  • @chiliprepper7678
    @chiliprepper7678 4 года назад +13

    Omega is just marketing. Commander Bond would have worn his issue mil sub. 👍😀⌚

    • @fletchersykes1660
      @fletchersykes1660 4 года назад +3

      And Rolex isn't about marketing? Rolex aren't even at the forefront of horological technology and time keeping. Also, with the mind games they've been playing recently with customers your comment couldn't be any more ironic.

    • @johnellard
      @johnellard 4 года назад

      Chili Prepper actually the Royal Navy issued both through the decades. Although parted ways with mechanical watches once quartz came along.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 года назад

      @@fletchersykes1660 Rolex aren't even at the forefront of horological technology and time keeping.
      They were during Bond's real era, the postwar era. NOW it's a flashy bling bling brand but NOW Bond would wear a G-Shock.

    • @fletchersykes1660
      @fletchersykes1660 4 года назад

      @@darthkek1953 Even post war Omega was ahead of Rolex. Rolex didn't supercede Omega until the 60s and as a brand Rolex have remained no.1 since. Not sure why you think Bond would wear a Gshock but there's no evidence to suggest a possibility. Bond may change ever so slightly with the times but there are certain idiosyncrasies that are invariably going to essentially stay the same. Bond wont be wearing a Gshock, Fitbit or iwatch.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 года назад

      @@fletchersykes1660 Bond would wear a Gshock because he has moved from a smooth-talker who might occasionally need to pull a pistol on a middle-aged man to a Lord of War caught in the middle of a Transformers movie. Omega and Rolex are not given to modern soldiers, Gshocks are: and current screen Bond is more of a soldier than most platoons combined.

  • @turnipdreams
    @turnipdreams 4 года назад +25

    I think the question should be "is he a modern rolex or modern omega wearer"

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +7

      Very interesting context. Somehow I just can't see him wearing modern rolex today... Great thought and thanks for the comment!

  • @WhiteJarrah
    @WhiteJarrah 4 года назад +1

    The Omega is also famous for its association with the Apollo missions. NASA issued Omega Speedmasters to the astronauts on those missions.

  • @Microtimer1000th
    @Microtimer1000th 4 года назад +6

    To be purist, a Rolex Explorer, but that would also have to lead to a change in cars, as in the novels Bond, was a Bentley man.

  • @TexpatOTG
    @TexpatOTG 4 года назад +9

    James Bond will wear the watch made by the company that offered the most for product placement.

    • @nicolasmayer618
      @nicolasmayer618 3 года назад +1

      Rolex didn’t pay anything, Omega did ;)

    • @kraitshakti
      @kraitshakti 3 года назад

      @@nicolasmayer618 that’s all one needs to know. One watch was 1) written by the author and 2) appeared in movies without paying a dime.
      The other watch paid to be included in later movies.

    • @Mb789x
      @Mb789x 2 года назад

      Rolex doesn’t need to advertise. They already can’t supply demand.

  • @speedypaul2314
    @speedypaul2314 4 года назад +2

    Sean Connery will always be Bond and his style set a benchmark for the other actors and films to come. Most Bond film makers found they needed to return to the Fleming books when they found the series was going "off piste". The Rolex Explorer (Fleming's model) or the early Submariner given to him by the producers are in my opinion the true Bond watches. I'm saying that as someone who bought the Omega Seamaster from Brosnan's era. That's hard to say because I absolutely love the watch and it still holds that Bond connection whenever I wear it, but, I think to be true to Fleming that statement is true. Brosnan and Omega brought more to the table than Rolex did. The Seamaster Professional was so distinctive to anything seen before Omega would have no doubt sold lots of models without the Bond connection but it did them no harm whatsoever. Brosnan made the watch his own and made it more accessible to people to buy than a new Rolex. It did then and still does feel like a bond watch. The model Omega used carried good continuity for the first time through all 4 consecutive films. This is something they really haven't done before or since. Dare I say it Brosnan was probably the most successful actor playing the part since Connery and I think that is why Omega are now fully accepted into the Bond community except for the very hard core of fans who insist on Fleming's or Cubby's watch.

    • @anthonydaley278
      @anthonydaley278 3 года назад

      That’s the watch I got? It’s just a bit less flashy and more in keeping for me.

  • @midas1929
    @midas1929 4 года назад +24

    Those who love Rolex will say Rolex. Those that favor Omega will say Omega. I guess nobody will really change his opinion on that. I think Bond could wear both brands and they are equally great. Also, Bond could wear anything and get away with it. Including tight speedos. I couldn't.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +2

      That was what I really wanted to address in this. The watch is pretty irrelevant, I just reckon he prefers simplicity over the complexity of things (and you're right about him bing able to rock anything) Thanks for the comment brother!

    • @midas1929
      @midas1929 4 года назад +1

      @leicanoct Ok, but then the Explorer. It's just nicer with a dinner jacket.

    • @midas1929
      @midas1929 4 года назад +1

      @@ID-Guy The first movie watch Bond wore btw was a gold dress watch Gruen Precision in Dr. No. He also had a digital Hamilton Pulsar in "Live and let die" and a TAG Heuer professional in "The living day lights".

    • @UGA.D
      @UGA.D 4 года назад

      @Will Harris "...to the point that I lose the will to live sometimes." HA HA HA HA!!!

    • @BeckVMH
      @BeckVMH 4 года назад +1

      Andreas T... Thanks for making that point. A lot are not aware or fail to admit Gruen was the first.

  • @markwolfson2023
    @markwolfson2023 4 года назад +2

    Wow, seriously, I like the new "Time to Die" Omega. But it does not go with the new Defender, (I have a 1995). But that is a different story. Great narrative! Thank you.

  • @blablablablabittybla561
    @blablablablabittybla561 3 года назад +1

    I think the first Bond watch worn in the movies was Gruen. I choose that.

  • @onifrakimarq7663
    @onifrakimarq7663 4 года назад +3

    Every time I look at my Sinn 556i I think of it as a perfect Bond watch! Cheers Oni

  • @TheUkester69
    @TheUkester69 3 года назад +1

    Basically, whichever turns Vesper Lynd on more. Maybe keep them both handy to fit her mood.

  • @danielschultz11
    @danielschultz11 4 года назад +1

    Bond is subject to Q issuing him with a time piece with (gadgets) or his life depending tools he may use in the field. Bond wears what is issued to him, but I think he has grown accustomed to high status time pieces, something an orphan would likely never have had the chance. Here is part of a definition that is fitting for Bond - the omega male is more introverted and isn't afraid of doing his own thing and making up his own rules in life. I would prefer Bond would choose Omega as a statement of who he is as a man, but Bond uses his time piece as a tool in the field and no matter what the brand Bond makes it his own.

  • @Tompie913
    @Tompie913 4 года назад +2

    Grand Seiko ;)
    But honestly, the Sub was an excellent choice in the 60s, and the current Seamaster 300 matches the "elegant tool watch" look better than the current Submariner references thanks to little details like the painted indices and lack of crown guards. Whilst it is true that, in basic terms, the design of the Submariner and most Rolex models haven't changed much, there have been many little details that have been added that make it feel, to me, much more a "rich man's jewelry piece" than a working man's instrument. I have a similar feeling about Brosnan's Seamaster Professional, though admittedly it did suit him quite well.

  • @IchabodNyx
    @IchabodNyx 4 года назад +1

    I thought I heard that the woman that did costumes/production design for Goldeneye said her retired British naval officer father and all his British naval officer buddies wore Omega Seamasters... so it was her idea to switch brands because that's the watch she thought a British naval officer would prefer... and they went with that idea, and the marketing relationship came after.

    • @midas1929
      @midas1929 4 года назад

      Costume designer Lindy Hemming. In Skyfall it was an Aqua Terra.

  • @MrJSTroy
    @MrJSTroy 4 года назад +1

    In the books Bond did use his watch as brass knuckles to kill someone! So I think if it comes down to it he use all of his tools to do the jobs even his watch! Great video

  • @jsoye
    @jsoye 4 года назад +1

    I think they are both lovely watches. By this I am essentially talking about the Rolex Submariner and the Omega Seamaster. They are probably both similar in terms of the quality of their materials, design, and function. The differences are in the way they are marketed. In essence, Omega have got their foot in the door in terms of a collaboration with the movies, and now have eventually realised that they can release a special edition for each movie which will be desirable to movie fans and Bond fans, which will be to an extent limited, and which accordingly will have an inflated price tag. It is a great marketing strategy. Wouldn't Aston Martin have given Goldfinger whatever cars they wanted had they realised how big and timeless the Bond movie franchise would be? On the other hand, they got the association and kudos without that much investment - at the time. The Rolex marketing strategy is... well, I don't know what it is! If you are in the business of making money by selling the watches that you design and make, sooner or later you yourself are going to have to sell a few, rather than solely relying on a burgeoning preowned market to inflate the desirability of your brand: surely that is only half the battle if others are getting as much or more out of it than you are! Anyway, the desirability or otherwise of either of these marketing strategies will be probably what swings you. If you prefer the sense of ownership of a watch specifically marketed and tied to bond, limited, and associated with a particular movie, you'll go for Omega, but if you desire something that is hard to get hold of, and once you have it you are perhaps a member of a rather exclusive club, you'll go with Rolex, a brand who now will always be associated with Bond even if Bond himself never wears another Rolex. I know which side of the fence I am on!

  • @wiwatchguy8798
    @wiwatchguy8798 4 года назад +4

    I would love to see Bond wear a Reverso in the future.

    • @person7568
      @person7568 2 года назад

      It’s not 1960 anymore

  • @SJCB27
    @SJCB27 4 года назад

    Totally agree, ID, the debate should be Sub/Seamaster or Explorer/Speedie before we get to "which manufacturer". My view is the latter and probably the Explorer (and I'm an Omega guy!).

  • @scoutandscooter
    @scoutandscooter 11 месяцев назад

    In the 1960s, when both Rolex and Omega were just several hundred dollars, my father in law picked Omega. Knowing him, he just wasn't a Rolex person. Always drove a pickup truck. He had it for fifty years until the last maintenance was going to be over $1,000. Then he bought a Timex.
    I've never worn a watch except for training - Timex Ironman. My wife just bought me a Seamaster 007 40th. I guess we're just Omega kind of people.

  • @JB91710
    @JB91710 4 года назад +5

    I think it has everything to do with when you were introduced to Bond and how he and his watch affected you.

    • @reynardus1359
      @reynardus1359 3 года назад +2

      More likely which watch you can actually purchase from an authorized dealer. The hell with Rolex.

    • @bravo1224
      @bravo1224 2 года назад +2

      @@reynardus1359 Totally agree…tired of playing this cat and mouse game with Rolex ADs and their shady practices…it’s completely tarnished the brand imo.

  • @mattfinish2196
    @mattfinish2196 4 года назад +1

    Loved the video. I'm usually old school but I really like the look of the Omega.

  • @05Rudey
    @05Rudey 3 года назад

    Reading Casino Royale for the first time, I was amazed on how much the film industry had changed many of the luxury item brands, so now when we think of these brands, we think of James Bond. For example, in Casino Royale, He drives a Bentley, not an Aston Martin, he carries a Beretta 448, not a Walther PPK, He Drinks Jack Daniels not Macallan and he wears a Rolex, not an Omega.

  • @samirbenchefra
    @samirbenchefra 4 года назад +10

    James will have to wait 5 years on the waiting list so.. omega

    • @arbiterofreason2068
      @arbiterofreason2068 4 года назад +1

      XD "waiting list" doesn't exist. The only thing anyone's waiting for is the AD waiting for you to buy 4 other watches before he offers you. And he'll only do that if he's sure you'll be back to spend more.

  • @XfiveTactical
    @XfiveTactical 4 года назад +3

    In the novel James Bond uses a PPK, drinks vodka martini and wears Rolex.
    Now he wears Omega, drinks beer and in the future he will wear a Glock43?

  • @Byrnzi360
    @Byrnzi360 4 года назад +2

    Bond liked a heavy watch, one that could serve as a knuckle duster during a fight. So given the relatively solid construction of both brands, I think he would be satisfied with either.

  • @ElusiveMasquerade
    @ElusiveMasquerade 4 года назад +3

    I like them all. The Omega is my favorite although the Rolex sure looks nice and I will own one someday. The Omega to me just seems like that watch that is ready for an adventure.

  • @DocBBR
    @DocBBR 4 года назад +6

    Let Bond be Bond

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      That should be the title of the next film! Apparently he's not even 007 anymore... (sigh)

  • @Nisalekanayake
    @Nisalekanayake 4 года назад +2

    Love Omega and Bond topics!

  • @nukie404
    @nukie404 4 года назад +1

    Interesting topic Mr IDGuy! I think Omega was great for Brosnan, not as good with Craig. Perhaps I've been conditioned by Brosnan's Bond but the Seamaster looks like it will be ready to shoot lasers or something of that sort, as mentioned in this video. Besides the model for Spectre, it just seems off for Craig's Bond.
    I think Seiko/Pulsar that Roger Moore wore fits his Bond very well and the Tag Heuer suits Dalton's Bond extremely well too. And of course, the OG, Rolex fits in perfectly with Connery's Bond. Lazenby didn't get to star in too many movies but I guess he could have used something a little less rugged looking than the Sub?

    • @fotis342
      @fotis342 Год назад

      I agree, omega doesn't suits Graig's bond. I don't know why but i think a watch like tudor would be a better choice or brietling.

  • @oysterman962
    @oysterman962 4 года назад

    True to the book Bond, he should only wear a Rolex. In the early Connery films, there was no endorsements. Rolex and Aston Martin did not supply Eon Productions with free props. They were just reliable tools that 007 used as part of his active lifestyle, chosen by Ian Fleming for the character. As the films got more ridiculous and unbelievable with gadgets, invisible cars, laser beams etc. Bond started wearing other brands and then eventually was endorsed by Omega. The Bond films then became a big marketing engine. True film making was lost as the films turned into a advertising campaign for product placement. This was probably not a bad thing for the film adaptaption of Bond as it probably saved the franchise. Prior to Golden Eye and the Brosnan Seamaster, the Bond films were losing traction. With Omega, the aggresive marketing gave Bond the boost it needed. But I agree with ID Guy. In my mind, Connery's iconic Submariner will always be the true Bond watch for me. Besides, if Connery's Rolex ever came up for sale at auction I guarantee it will match Paul Newman's Daytona in price. That can't be said about any Omega that goes under the hammer. Wouldn't even come close.

  • @vaclav_fejt
    @vaclav_fejt 2 года назад

    I think it's each style to the appropriate Bond. Minimalist with Connery, Lazenby, Dalton and the first two Craig movies, gadgety with Moore, Brosnan and the latter three Craig movies. As to which brand particularly, I don't think it really matters.

  • @thomasgilsfeldt9003
    @thomasgilsfeldt9003 4 года назад +2

    I very much agree - it's not a gadget him, and you're sport-on with Railmaster and Explorer, if you ask me 👍

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +1

      I'm so divided between the two watches... Aqua Terra, Explorer, Railmaster, 1016... Simplicity over complexity ;) Thanks for the comment Thomas

  • @terrysky83
    @terrysky83 4 года назад +1

    I don't think Mr. Bond travels light and prefers simplicity. He always appears in impeccable suits and beautiful dinner jackets. That elegant attire doesn't lend itself to light travelling well.

  • @motorcarclassics2922
    @motorcarclassics2922 4 года назад +5

    The first Bond movie/book wore Rolex.

    • @kanyewest2729
      @kanyewest2729 3 года назад

      Back then you didn’t need to wait a century to get one

  • @Spook291
    @Spook291 4 года назад +4

    Another great job!

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +1

      Thanks a million, ND. It was a cool thought experiment

  • @lawrenceg7341
    @lawrenceg7341 4 года назад +3

    Have been waiting for this!!

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      The answer is still divided (as will always be) but hey! I think there is some depth to the development to the brands over time ;) Thanks for the comment Lawrence!

  • @merkury06
    @merkury06 4 года назад +2

    I dont think Rolex fits Bonds image anymore, and its not because of Bond. In the50s and 60s Rolex was more of a tool watch with a man of action image. Since then it has become a status symbol. It is really not the kind of watch James Bond would choose.

  • @davidb5720
    @davidb5720 4 года назад +3

    If you look at the characters background where he was a naval officer, it would realistically make sense for Bond to wear Omega. Their involvement is intertwined and were actually worn by the SBS on missions. The idea of a simple watch is perfect and the rail master or an aqua terra would definitely fit the bill as an understated watch fit for a super spy 👍

  • @keats27
    @keats27 3 года назад +1

    Connery might have brought the character to life, but Craig brought him as close as anyone has to harsh reality. And I think, rather than wearing the popular Rolex that everyone else is wearing, Bond would choose the watch that Diana bought for her son William--seems a bit more...keeping the British end up.

  • @daverobertson623
    @daverobertson623 4 года назад +6

    As a superspy he should probably wear a top of the line Casio G shock

  • @commentjedi
    @commentjedi 4 года назад +7

    It would be cheaper to buy a Submariner
    Than the cost of training
    and time off of work
    To become like Bond.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +1

      Hahaha good point!

  • @jdmeaney413
    @jdmeaney413 6 месяцев назад

    He’s both and represents different eras of Bond. For me, he was always golden eye and Daniel Craig . My dad was Sean Connery . Love them for their right reasons

  • @russellharris5072
    @russellharris5072 4 года назад

    My father was in the royal navy during 1935-1941 and at that time he told me that ranking officers were issued with Breitling navitimers.Bond as a commander (Fleming's rank)would have been issued something similar although it is unlikely that a spy would wear anything flashy and certainly not with the M.O.D. broad arrow.The story i heard was that the watch head was loaned because it was realised bond should have a watch and a runner was dispatched to buy a strap.Nato straps didn't exist at that time but Woolworths carried nylon straps very much in the style of the american army straps.Shame the runner couldn't find one the correct size................

  • @018139548
    @018139548 3 года назад +1

    Really great video man, I loved your detailed analysis of this video and I enjoyed every minute of it. For me it's still the Omega Ω

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 4 года назад +10

    Bond shouldn't drive BMWs and he shouldn't wear anything but a Rolex.
    However: He liked the Rolex for practical reasons - and because he didn't have to pay for it himself (book-Bond wasn't rich). Question is: Would he still wear what Rolex has turned into? Not so sure. We all love the fact that he's a bit of an analogue man in our digital world, but I have a feeling that if Fleming was writing these books today, Bond would be wearing something completely different ... like, perhaps, even a G-Shock.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +2

      And that's the thing! The landscape of the brands now! I'm fairly confident he'd go after a much more obscure sports watch than the typical. GShocks would fit the build well, but maybe something with a bit more engineering behind it? Great point

    • @1SaG
      @1SaG 4 года назад +1

      @@ID-Guy Yeah, the G-Shock might be taking it a bit too far (although the GA 2100 might fit). If Sinn were a British company, the GSG9 or EZM3 models would be perfect as Bond's "duty watch".

    • @TerrySteiner
      @TerrySteiner 4 года назад

      They have not had them drive a BMW for 21-years since the World Is Not Enough..

    • @f2detaboada
      @f2detaboada 4 года назад

      G-Steels perhaps, if anything he would wear Cellinis for black tie events.

  • @chrispenn715
    @chrispenn715 4 года назад +2

    Surely the Rolex is a watch for Bond villains? For Bond, I always thought it strange that a spy should drive around in a flash car like Aston Martin - as nice as they are. Surely a 'real' spy would drive a Ford or Toyota and wear a Casio? Wouldn't be so much fun to watch tho of course. As an Omega owner, in my unbiased opinion, Bond should wear an Omega. :-)

  • @risalatrahman7608
    @risalatrahman7608 4 года назад +1

    There's a RUclipsr known as Russell Designer. Last week, he talks about James Bond and you must watch it. He's so amazing. Trust me.

  • @larsvargas8479
    @larsvargas8479 4 года назад

    Omega PO XL on a rubber strap is in my opinion the best watch he has ever worn. If I were bond I would probably wear a Sinn UX for the action stuff and a Aqua Terra for the more formal occasions.

  • @captnagrom8178
    @captnagrom8178 4 года назад +1

    An excellent episode ...Thank you

  • @TheBugkillah
    @TheBugkillah 3 года назад +1

    Depends on which company pays better for that movie.

  • @greenjihad3390
    @greenjihad3390 Год назад

    I favor Rolex only for the purposes of authenticity or accuracy and out of respect for Ian Flemming. That said, it is my understanding that when the Bond franchise was going to start filming with Pierce Brosnan, they got into some sort of tiff with Rolex and decided to go with Omega. If so, then I can understand the change. Both brands are superb and either would do well since, as I believe you have pointed out and since Bond served in the British navy, both Omega and Rolex were watches military servicemen bought since the watches were priced with deep discounts.

  • @bber45
    @bber45 4 года назад +2

    Oo man, soon as I saw the title I knew it would be tough one to choose. Here goes: If we go with Ian Fleming's Bond, there is no doubt he should be rocking his rolex. Especially, his Explorer. But, if we go with the films...man it's Omega All the way.
    And it's not even close. Starting with Sean Connery and all the way through Daniel Craig, they all should have been rocking Omega. Reason : Escalation. In every film, Bond has an opposite number. IE: The KGB, Spectre, Bloomfield, Goldfinger, Alec, etc...They all try to out due Bond by any means necessary. Bond always have to be one step a head. The Omega gives him that edge. Always give him a last way out.
    This is my two cents. But I think it's a shiny two cents.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +2

      I love Connery and Rolex... but what modern Omega is doing as a partnership and how the watches have been developed (movement, proper science and technology with every other detail) I really do love the partnership it has with Bond. Thanks for the comment, brother

    • @bber45
      @bber45 4 года назад

      @@ID-Guy Me too. Connery will always be #1 along with his Rolex. But I have special place in my Heart for Pierce Bronsnan and his Omega. Especially since I was a 90's kid. Growing, playing Golden eye on N64 and seeing the film in theaters. Omega Saved Bond and Bond Saved Omega.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 года назад

      Unless Bond is an ancient Greek there are 11 letters after "O". That's why these days we say A to Z not A to O.

  • @paultowns9880
    @paultowns9880 4 года назад +1

    Superb video as usual. Thank you.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      Always a pleasure, Paul. Thanks a million for the comment!

  • @mrp9498
    @mrp9498 4 года назад +3

    Great video. Bond should add one more brand and have a 4 meal deal hunga busta!

    • @patricksoos674
      @patricksoos674 4 года назад +1

      Mr Perpetual - or 5 identical Pateks 😉

  • @chrislee6853
    @chrislee6853 4 года назад

    Great video with interesting analysis!
    As an Omega guy, I was hoping that you would ultimately say, that Bind should be an Omega person, but I have to admit that your ultimate position and rationale make a lot of sense.

  • @ericday3538
    @ericday3538 3 года назад +1

    He's a government employee. If a $6k watch can perform equally as well as a $14k watch, the government contract will always go to the $6k watch (Omega).
    They have budgets. More funds for missiles hidden behind headlights.

  • @briansutherland5919
    @briansutherland5919 4 года назад +10

    Rolex. Debate over. And he drove a Bentley, not an Aston.

    • @midas1929
      @midas1929 4 года назад +3

      Well, the worst collaboration in my regard was BMW.

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman 4 года назад +3

      @@midas1929 especially the Z3 roadster.......beta bond.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      @@midas1929 They botched it big time....

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад

      Nothing wrong with those two. Hell, I'd love to see a Bentley in the franchise...

  • @L3ZC
    @L3ZC 2 года назад

    If I was a James Bond actor I'd ask for both and see which ones "suits better" and keep the two

  • @volpiguitar
    @volpiguitar 2 года назад

    The first submariners were actually seen as BIG back then. Greetz from Lucerne.

  • @TerrySteiner
    @TerrySteiner 4 года назад

    I would not have a watch problem if it were not for James Bond.
    I'm biased. The Brosnan era Seamaster may have been the first watch I really noticed in a film and Omega is the company I keep going back to. I'm my mind Bond wears an Omega because that is what he wore when I grew up.
    Connery is still the best.

  • @hod6ie856
    @hod6ie856 4 года назад

    It's such a shame we never got to see the Omega 2254.50 on Bond's wrist. Having clearly taken such inspiration from the military issued watches that came before it; this would have been an absolutely perfect watch for Bond.

  • @mghorvath79
    @mghorvath79 4 года назад +2

    G-Shock

  • @RobertJones-et7gh
    @RobertJones-et7gh Год назад

    If someone was to gift me ONE of two watches (Submariner versus Seamaster), I would take the Rolex hands down.
    Connery possessed all the traits I admire in "Bond" (virile, polished, aggressive, intelligent, educated). Connery wore Rolex. To have a piece of that classic heritage on my wrist is.... priceless.

  • @mr22guy
    @mr22guy 4 года назад

    Great video!
    I beg to differ on one point. A dive watch never "works" with a tuxedo; we're just used to seeing it now (thanks to 007). Today you can go out to dinner in shorts. But in the '60s if you wore a dive watch to a high class casino, people would probably assume you forgot to pack your dress watch.

    • @AR-hw9zi
      @AR-hw9zi 9 месяцев назад

      Bond should just wear a 36mm explorer, legible, fit for any occasion, most loyal to Fleming’s writing.

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 4 года назад +1

    Just look at his I phone ,, , or should it be Samsung ,, a totally new debate begins here.

  • @alunjones2550
    @alunjones2550 4 года назад +1

    Coco Chanel defined fashion as something that goes out of fashion. I think choosing the less fashionable option is the understated way that Bond operates. Why have a Ferrari like everyone else, when you can have an Aston Martin.

  • @Unus1Mundus
    @Unus1Mundus 4 года назад +2

    Bond is very "active". He should wear an Omega. (I still love the 90's Brosnan Seamaster 300).

  • @VB-3
    @VB-3 4 года назад +3

    Omega, easily.

  • @reedgrabowski8314
    @reedgrabowski8314 4 года назад +3

    My opinion is this: If Bond desire a gadget on his or her wrist, an Apple watch might suffice if it is rugged enough. If Bond prefers a tool watch, any tool watch worth its salt will do. Could be Rolex, Omega, Seiko, Boldr, NTH, etc. machs nichs to me. The watch has to have purpose as well as style.

    • @ID-Guy
      @ID-Guy  4 года назад +1

      The debate between the two brands is almost moot at this point (both watches serve their purpose well) It's more about discussing it as a utility. Very well said, Reed! Thank you

  • @mrbud8524
    @mrbud8524 2 года назад

    Great Video.
    I own both Rolex Submariner & Omega Seamaster 42m blue dail on a Serious note l take the Omega keeps the time better and wear it more Seamaster 300 42m blue dail is the real deal for the money 💰

  • @CptBerns
    @CptBerns 2 года назад

    When Bond movies started in 1962 they gave Bond a Rolex. When the Bond movies got good, from The Spy who Loved Me on, they modernized Bond by giving him a digital watch. Then the eighties came and by the middle of that terrible decade just about the whole world forgot what the word "modern" meant. Our jeans got buttons instead of zippers, a brand name was more important than the practicality of an object, and we prefered to be seen with a Rolex over an unbranded digital watch. And even brands like Seiko and Casio were considered inferior. By the nineties Bond should have had a Casio Wave Ceptor! And the new Bond of the twenties should have a smart watch with some extra functions!
    Oh and I truly miss the one true Bond: ROGER MOORE!