2:17-2:32 I love that description. Most people think Bond has to wear a luxury brand because of his high luxury standards, but it’s more because of his time in the military and using a watch as a tool. He uses luxury brands because he needs the high level of reliability from the craftsmanship of Swiss diving watches of the time.
Actually, according to Ian Fleming himself, the watch James Bond actually wears is a standard Rolex oyster perpetual. The misconception comes from the fact that Fleming himself was known to wear a Rolex explorer model 1016. However, this did not exist until 1959 the first mention of 007 wearing a Rolex is in 1954 live and let die which takes place in 1952. Fleming directly named drops the oyster perpetual as bond watch in on her Majesty Secret Service, but he never mentions the reference number
@@GentlemanMasterclass you’re welcome, and I wouldn’t call it ignorant said something that is a pretty common misconception. Fleming himself only states what model bonds watch actually is, in the novel on her majesty, Secret Service and so far as I’m aware, it is the only model where Ian Fleming directly states then model name of the watch. and every other watch description Ian Fleming gives throughout the series, he only gives general description of what the watch looks like, and the brand name. I believe any reasonable person who did not know Fleming, directly named the model, would assume that it was a Rolex explorer or submariner, especially considering Fleming mentions the watch being an oyster perpetual in a single sentence in the entire series. It’s extremely easy to miss.
Little known fact, the watch in OHMSS shown here at 5:04 is actually a small crown, no hash mark, no crown guard sub with the crown pulled out. It's a blink and you'll miss it continuity break.
What reference number Sub is that then? The only thing throwing me for the loop is the small crown and no hash marks. The only subs I’m aware of that had no hash marks were all big 8mm crown subs.
@ learn something new every day! Thank you sir, most of the Subs with 65 serial number I’ve seen, they’ve all had big crowns, so it’s cool to see other variations of it.
What is the closest homage to the original Bond Sub? Black Bay 58 is close in design, a few from Steinhart are too but there doesn’t appear to be anything that replicates it exactly?
@@GentlemanMasterclass Well, I'm lucky enough to have found the same Breitling Top Time in good original condition. (Minus the Geiger counter, of course!) & that cracking Spectre Seamaster from 2015, which is a pleasure to wear. How about you? The first video of yours that I watched (yesterday) featured the vintage Gruen, so I know about that one. Any others?
well I hope the Bond Franchise will try something new and wear more affordable watch brands like Longines or Hamilton :D so I can buy it and feel Like Bond..
The story goes that it was Cubby Broccoli's Rolex on a leather strap. I'm guessing the film production was looking for something to pair with the watch for the water scenes and could only find the now famous 16mm fabric strap.
The notion of the gold dress watch being a Gruen 510 is unfortunately untrue and can be traced to a (now deleted) bloggpost from about 2014, which just made the claim without any solid references. Recently there has been photos surfaced of Sean Connery from behinds the Scenes and in his off time wearing the watch, which seems to indicate that it was in fact his personal watch that he wore along with the Submariner. The identity of the watch is still unknown - and though it's very similar to the Gruen, with the same dial layout and style of hands, the case and lugs do not match what so ever. This means the identity of the watch is till up for debate, but the Gruen 510 is debunked.
Dell Deaton never backtracked on that being the watch. www.jamesbondwatchphotos.com/category/james-bond-watch-brands/gruen/?fbclid=IwAR1EPG1jVbK7Lg-U82Oc-1BQW0HyVnaipjWBGtKVPbKufHlo1TeFHh76I20 jamesbondwatches.com/ salinejournal.com/2017/11/13/there-are-local-connections-to-james-bond-and-historic-watches/
@manMasterclassOh, my mistake - I was under the impression the post had been deleted as I've tried to find the original post, might just have been temporarily down last time I checked. However I stand firm of the watch being misidentified as a Gruen based on my own research.
Funny to always claim that the Gruen is James Bond's watch... when there is no direct proof of this. First of all, there were many similar watches in those years. Then, the latest expertise on 4K films seems to point towards another watch model.
"Then, the latest expertise on 4K films seems to point towards another watch model." What other model? You tell me. Dell Deaton's pick has become the de facto pick because he was the one to vocally express his opinion and make a big claim. Those who speak win the war. I have a friend in Germany who agrees with you, but he refuses to use his real name publicly, show his face publicly, or speak about it publicly, so his opinion is dismissed, and no one other than me will have heard it. That's the way these things work.
@@GentlemanMasterclass Mr. Dell Deaton's proposals have been strongly questioned for years on specialist sites. Particularly on the AJB forum where Mr. DD preferred to delete all his posts and run away rather than respond with arguments to the counter-proposals made to him on his quest for 007's Mystery Watch! I also think I know - if I'm not mistaken - who your German friend is... Likewise on Rolex too, notably those owned by Ian Fleming, he was on the wrong side. I was recently able to read very in-depth expert opinions on the Rolex Watch Forum which I invite you to read. Moreover, regarding this Gruen watch, there is no formal proof that it is among Bond's watches. It was an American brand and may have been encouraged by that. As I have stated, the 60's saw quite a few similar watches. So, according to very precise details based on comparisons of cases, dials and other details, 007's mystery watch could be a Girard Perregaux 17 jewels. This proposal appeared very interesting and well-argued. This is what I can tell you.
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2:17-2:32 I love that description. Most people think Bond has to wear a luxury brand because of his high luxury standards, but it’s more because of his time in the military and using a watch as a tool. He uses luxury brands because he needs the high level of reliability from the craftsmanship of Swiss diving watches of the time.
And back then we didn’t have smart watches and quartz watches or even wrist computers 😅😂
@@HuXian- as they say, it was a much simpler time 😂
Great vid, the Gruen 510 Bond watch is my favorite.
Actually, according to Ian Fleming himself, the watch James Bond actually wears is a standard Rolex oyster perpetual. The misconception comes from the fact that Fleming himself was known to wear a Rolex explorer model 1016. However, this did not exist until 1959 the first mention of 007 wearing a Rolex is in 1954 live and let die which takes place in 1952. Fleming directly named drops the oyster perpetual as bond watch in on her Majesty Secret Service, but he never mentions the reference number
Thank you for sharing. Ignorance on my behalf. Thank you for teaching me something I should have known and should have been obvious to me.
@@GentlemanMasterclass you’re welcome, and I wouldn’t call it ignorant said something that is a pretty common misconception. Fleming himself only states what model bonds watch actually is, in the novel on her majesty, Secret Service and so far as I’m aware, it is the only model where Ian Fleming directly states then model name of the watch. and every other watch description Ian Fleming gives throughout the series, he only gives general description of what the watch looks like, and the brand name. I believe any reasonable person who did not know Fleming, directly named the model, would assume that it was a Rolex explorer or submariner, especially considering Fleming mentions the watch being an oyster perpetual in a single sentence in the entire series. It’s extremely easy to miss.
Gruen presicion 510 beautiful and stylish watch
Little known fact, the watch in OHMSS shown here at 5:04 is actually a small crown, no hash mark, no crown guard sub with the crown pulled out. It's a blink and you'll miss it continuity break.
What sharp little eyes you've got.
@@Madmanmarque wait till you get to my teeth
What reference number Sub is that then? The only thing throwing me for the loop is the small crown and no hash marks. The only subs I’m aware of that had no hash marks were all big 8mm crown subs.
@ 6536 had no hash marks and and a small crown. There others from the 50’s with no hash and small crown but don’t recall the reference numbers.
@ learn something new every day! Thank you sir, most of the Subs with 65 serial number I’ve seen, they’ve all had big crowns, so it’s cool to see other variations of it.
Gruen 510 is the only bond watch I can afford 😮 I've got x2
What is the closest homage to the original Bond Sub? Black Bay 58 is close in design, a few from Steinhart are too but there doesn’t appear to be anything that replicates it exactly?
Thanks for the info
Good stuff!
Thank you sir. Did you have a favorite watch in the bunch, or from another Bond film perhaps?
@@GentlemanMasterclass Well, I'm lucky enough to have found the same Breitling Top Time in good original condition. (Minus the Geiger counter, of course!) & that cracking Spectre Seamaster from 2015, which is a pleasure to wear. How about you? The first video of yours that I watched (yesterday) featured the vintage Gruen, so I know about that one. Any others?
Thx. Hopefully Rolex will return to the Bond franchise someday.
well I hope the Bond Franchise will try something new and wear more affordable watch brands like Longines or Hamilton :D so I can buy it and feel Like Bond..
@@NCSheriff7 I would go for Asian micro brands. Zelos, Wise or RZE. Or American Brew.
Nice content. I’m amazed by the fact that Bond is under strapping the watch. Know anything about that?
The story goes that it was Cubby Broccoli's Rolex on a leather strap. I'm guessing the film production was looking for something to pair with the watch for the water scenes and could only find the now famous 16mm fabric strap.
My cousin has a Breitling Geiger counter watch.
It's okay, if you're into that sort of thing
The notion of the gold dress watch being a Gruen 510 is unfortunately untrue and can be traced to a (now deleted) bloggpost from about 2014, which just made the claim without any solid references. Recently there has been photos surfaced of Sean Connery from behinds the Scenes and in his off time wearing the watch, which seems to indicate that it was in fact his personal watch that he wore along with the Submariner. The identity of the watch is still unknown - and though it's very similar to the Gruen, with the same dial layout and style of hands, the case and lugs do not match what so ever.
This means the identity of the watch is till up for debate, but the Gruen 510 is debunked.
Dell Deaton never backtracked on that being the watch.
www.jamesbondwatchphotos.com/category/james-bond-watch-brands/gruen/?fbclid=IwAR1EPG1jVbK7Lg-U82Oc-1BQW0HyVnaipjWBGtKVPbKufHlo1TeFHh76I20
jamesbondwatches.com/
salinejournal.com/2017/11/13/there-are-local-connections-to-james-bond-and-historic-watches/
@manMasterclassOh, my mistake - I was under the impression the post had been deleted as I've tried to find the original post, might just have been temporarily down last time I checked. However I stand firm of the watch being misidentified as a Gruen based on my own research.
Just as a PS: I posted a forum link to the findings debunking the Gruen - but for one reason or another, that comment was removed.
@@oskareriksson3835 If the channel owner don't allow, only the links his post is allowed, any other was deleted by YT boot.
Wasn’t there a watch that woke him up?
With 25 movies, I can't even recall at this point. Jog my memory, tell me what movie you saw it in, and maybe I will remember,
Maybe was sir roger moore with a digital watch
There all movie watch
James Bond wears a Black Bay 58😄
54 😜
Funny to always claim that the Gruen is James Bond's watch... when there is no direct proof of this.
First of all, there were many similar watches in those years.
Then, the latest expertise on 4K films seems to point towards another watch model.
"Then, the latest expertise on 4K films seems to point towards another watch model."
What other model? You tell me.
Dell Deaton's pick has become the de facto pick because he was the one to vocally express his opinion and make a big claim. Those who speak win the war. I have a friend in Germany who agrees with you, but he refuses to use his real name publicly, show his face publicly, or speak about it publicly, so his opinion is dismissed, and no one other than me will have heard it. That's the way these things work.
@@GentlemanMasterclass Mr. Dell Deaton's proposals have been strongly questioned for years on specialist sites. Particularly on the AJB forum where Mr. DD preferred to delete all his posts and run away rather than respond with arguments to the counter-proposals made to him on his quest for 007's Mystery Watch! I also think I know - if I'm not mistaken - who your German friend is...
Likewise on Rolex too, notably those owned by Ian Fleming, he was on the wrong side. I was recently able to read very in-depth expert opinions on the Rolex Watch Forum which I invite you to read. Moreover, regarding this Gruen watch, there is no formal proof that it is among Bond's watches. It was an American brand and may have been encouraged by that.
As I have stated, the 60's saw quite a few similar watches.
So, according to very precise details based on comparisons of cases, dials and other details, 007's mystery watch could be a Girard Perregaux 17 jewels.
This proposal appeared very interesting and well-argued. This is what I can tell you.