BEST Greatspear Guide (in-depth breakdown and review) Elden Ring

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @Chrightt
    @Chrightt  Год назад +103

    One thing I forgot is the Serpent-Hunter still retains its UGS-like rolling/crouching attack despite having the same attack ID on rolling/crouching as the other great spears! This is especially good for PVP, but then again you probably see more powerstanced greatspears for PVP.

    • @krisjohn4668
      @krisjohn4668 Год назад +12

      It's crouch poke is also the pre-1.07 ugs crouch poke meaning that it comes out much faster.

    • @JD-kl9xw
      @JD-kl9xw Год назад +15

      @@krisjohn4668 It's not the same as pre 1.07 ugs poke, it never was. Serpent Hunters crouch poke while the same speed as pre nerf ugs poke has smaller hitbox and less tracking. It's still good just not as good as ugs crouch pokes used to be.

    • @Yobolight
      @Yobolight Год назад +4

      Feel like you're overly negative on quality. You always say "quality isn't good at meta-PVP levels", but that's not always the case if you're looking at the 137 or 150 meta-levels. Quality is also sometimes better than Keen/Heavy, if you're using a build that isn't optimally statted for the specific weapon (e.g. because you want the specific moveset in your pocket for invasion scenarios).

    • @noobadventures5412
      @noobadventures5412 Год назад

      Can you give the link for the moveset values? Thanks

    • @hobosorcerer
      @hobosorcerer Год назад +1

      Here's hoping it & the other very fast, long range crouch poke attacks are next on the chopping block.

  • @Punjabificationify
    @Punjabificationify Год назад +254

    Chrightt over here investing purely into information and analysis for best return on his youtube scaling.

    • @derekwedge09
      @derekwedge09 Год назад +10

      Sub optimal returns due to the lack of click bait.

    • @rednuclearmc3856
      @rednuclearmc3856 Год назад +4

      It worked to get to sub so idk?

    • @funkymachine
      @funkymachine Год назад +4

      Idk, after you hit the softcap of people who want math and interesting analysis, you start to gain little subscriber per point in analysis.

    • @Nen_niN
      @Nen_niN Год назад +3

      @@funkymachine Subscriber count isn't everything. You need to consider subscriber type. Leveling analysis way past the meta soft-caps may not net you an amount of subscribers, but it makes more subscribers come back and and appreciate the videos.

    • @funkymachine
      @funkymachine Год назад +3

      @@Nen_niN it's not how high your number hits, it's how you use it. Look at fist

  • @pibbles_
    @pibbles_ Год назад +133

    In an ocean of clickbait view farming Elden ring videos, your channel is a beautiful oasis. Thank you for the quality content

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Год назад +34

    Interesting note about the Vyke's weapon art: from what I've seen, the middle finger (lol) moves in the direction of your target instead of pointing forward. That makes the "safe spots" between the fingers inconsistent.

    • @rawen160
      @rawen160 Год назад +9

      That sounds like a middle finger to people dodging without rolling

  • @EinSilverRose
    @EinSilverRose Год назад +43

    Never realized how versatile the greatspear class was. There's something for almost any build. No direct intelligence scaling greatspear but the Lance is so good it fills any niche you want.
    The Siluria's Tree is still pretty solid honestly. The ash of war charge can be mixed up for pvp and in pve it just chunks enemies and bosses at a safe distance. The recent buff it got just makes it even better.

  • @aidenferguson9355
    @aidenferguson9355 Год назад +11

    Looking for a Dex/Faith build and I actually did not realize that I have 2 pretty good options with Great Spears.
    Awesome!

    • @holyspear26
      @holyspear26 Год назад +4

      Tree spear with 13 int sacrifice for Orders Blade is worth it. Tree spear can be buffed despite ashes can’t be changed

    • @RTSK-be2pm
      @RTSK-be2pm Год назад +6

      Can also swap to Stargazer Heirloom(since most time you’re buffing you have a moment anyway) to keep the stat points for elsewhere

  • @lazerpulse
    @lazerpulse Год назад +26

    I would probably note that the serpent hunter has a unique crouch and rolling attack which is similar to ultra greatswords. That attack wasn't affected by the 1.07 balance changes, and is a key part of its moveset in addition to the heavy attack

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +14

      OMG I forgot about this cause the ID was actually the same but they had an overwrite elsewhere.

    • @HelloHelloHellobby
      @HelloHelloHellobby Год назад +1

      Heads up- The heavy charged attack is not more powerful. It’s normal power from my testing. I think the MV is for the Rykard fight. Still a cool weapon!

  • @mcita9292
    @mcita9292 Год назад +3

    Words can't express my gratitude for this kind of videos. Thank you

  • @1IGG
    @1IGG Год назад +14

    The reason I like Vykes spear is, that it actually looks like a usable weapon and not some silly wallhanger that would never work as a weapon.

    • @SirNarax
      @SirNarax Год назад +1

      It is still far too big to be used as an actual weapon. If you care about that sort of thing that is either a mark against it or a massive mark against the other weapons.

  • @ForeverLaxx
    @ForeverLaxx Год назад +9

    Pretty sure the MV for Serpent-Hunter's charged heavy attack only applies in the Rykard fight. From what I've seen, and based on what others have said after testing, it doesn't do extra damage on charged heavies compared to other greatspears. This is one downfall of only ever looking at values on a spreadsheet and not testing things that look "out of place" first.

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +8

      Oh, nice. Didn't think it would only be for the Rykard fight.
      EDIT: Wait, someone on my discord just tested and it does have higher MV. Man I'll have to test this myself.

    • @HelloHelloHellobby
      @HelloHelloHellobby Год назад +3

      @@Chrightt I tested it again and it DOES have higher MV on charged attacks. It is quite noticeable. Tested the Heavy Lance and Serpent hunter with the same AR on them. Serpent hunter- heavy attack did 388 damage and charged heavy did 839 damage. The Lance did 457 damage with the heavy and 642 with the charged heavy. This lines up because the regular heavy has a higher MV on the lance. This is 1 handed. 444 AR.
      The numbers do get fishy though! The two handed Alabaster Lords Sword also supposedly has a 215 MV for two handed charged attacks, but it does more damage with less AR AND while split scaled. Either trolls are weak to magic damage/are resistant to standard damage or something is incorrect with he MV. Either way both weapons have close damage to each other with 2H charged heavy attacks. with similar AR. However, the Lords sword gets a lot higher AR because of split scaling so with the same stats it does a decent amount more damage with charged heavies. This is why I was confused by my first testing.
      Conclusion- For a pure charge attack build the Alabaster Lords Sword is a better choice. The Serpent hunter is still good though and probably has a better moveset overall. It also has a worse ash of war, but if you think of the ash as a hyper armor charged heavy attack then it works. Too slow for most bosses but the hyper armor is good for normal enemies. Also basically always use the follow up attack as it comes out faster.

  • @Phantom_of_Black
    @Phantom_of_Black Год назад +5

    Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear's WA is so powerful that it can fairly reliably knock Malenia out of Waterfowl Dance. I don't think you can do this on reaction but with the Poise it has, any time Malenia started a Waterfowl dance when I wasn't on my third cast of the WA she got bled before starting the second part of Waterfowl.

  • @traiges414
    @traiges414 10 дней назад

    I honestly never used a single Greatspear for the longest time. Maybe subconsciously I had some memories about heavy weapons from Monster Hunter.
    But boy when I tried the Serpent Hunter outside of Rykards Boss Arena for the first time I was totally blown. What a brutal weapon.
    Imagine you could freely choose an ash of war or it would have a different one

  • @jamesnesran2348
    @jamesnesran2348 Год назад +4

    pre 1.07 blood lance on str arc build was absolutely evil

  • @genevaconventionsviolator3994
    @genevaconventionsviolator3994 Год назад +2

    I'm really glad that my Treespear + All Faith buff incantation build is actually fairly strong :) I've been running it for a while with some doubts as to it being any good or not but I'm glad faith was the way to go with 900 fucking AR at lategame

    • @nilspochat8665
      @nilspochat8665 4 месяца назад

      tbh i went the dex route (15/55/13/30 on RL 140) and it's about the same when using order's blade... but faster since casting speed scales with dexterity 😁
      it was the easiest time i had of any build (yes, even with the holy resists of later bosses) while pure faith was the hardest
      from a treespear enjoyer to another i wish you luck with the DLC

  • @MrFox-lg1uo
    @MrFox-lg1uo Год назад +1

    You don't know much i waited for a great spear video

  • @connorwilcox146
    @connorwilcox146 Год назад +3

    Can u do a vid talking about your background and how you got so good at this?

  • @PierreLucSex
    @PierreLucSex Год назад +45

    S-tier content as usual
    PS : thank you very much for covering 80/80 off-meta quality builds.
    Quality Lance sounds like godly mundane power.

  • @roachmancam9012
    @roachmancam9012 Год назад +25

    Serpent hunter is the best wep in the game hands down

    • @holyspear26
      @holyspear26 Год назад +3

      Nah. Cleanrot had it beat even before crouch poke got nerfed. Have a great day!

    • @yaqubebased1961
      @yaqubebased1961 Год назад +1

      Both in drip and action

    • @SirNarax
      @SirNarax Год назад

      Nihil.

  • @Dirtgut
    @Dirtgut Год назад +2

    Fav channel for elden ring info

  • @TheLikkittysplitt
    @TheLikkittysplitt Год назад +5

    Siluria's is looking like the weapon I wanna use for pve. It's long and i love the sweep r2s. Sure holy will suck at parts but I'm hoping fire spells will compensate

    • @zachclark2936
      @zachclark2936 Год назад +2

      ive been using it on a strength faith build, its awesome

    • @TheLikkittysplitt
      @TheLikkittysplitt Год назад

      @@zachclark2936 ooh what balance of str and faith do you have?

  • @josephjuncaj5784
    @josephjuncaj5784 Год назад +3

    Love the greatspear class and i hope it returns in future fromsoft games

  • @Arclor
    @Arclor Год назад +2

    Very annoyed that the only great spear that's AoW customizable is pretty ugly outside of a pve horse-back RPing build. Really hoping that the DLCs fix this.

  • @Shiningforceking
    @Shiningforceking Год назад

    NOO I can't believe I missed this video!! omg Chrightt!! we have it! the GreatSpears!! I love you so much!

  • @capitalismnumberone
    @capitalismnumberone Год назад +4

    the dude posted

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +6

      Hello, person three traveling at the speed of light.

  • @Freaktacular
    @Freaktacular Год назад +1

    Great-Serpent Hunt still hits FUCKING HARD.

  • @SCOMish42
    @SCOMish42 Год назад

    Chrightt, from one think I saw, there was a way to glitch the serpent hunter spear so you could use its weapon art outside of the Rykard fight which allowed you to quickly kill bosses.

  • @elliottfriedlander254
    @elliottfriedlander254 Год назад +2

    Have you considered looking at the "nuke" spells after 1.07. Explosive ghost flames seems much better. Maybe compare spells like ghost flame to scarlet aonea or zamors ice storm.

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I've checked out explosive ghostflame. Still quite impractical in PVP but it does okay in PVE now.

    • @elliottfriedlander254
      @elliottfriedlander254 Год назад

      @@Chrightt yeah i guess they arent to good in a duel. I find them funny in invasions

  • @servesubest
    @servesubest Год назад +4

    Ur content is top tier, thank you tons for this

  • @yamnbam4346
    @yamnbam4346 Год назад +3

    Let’s go, new vid

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +5

      Hello, person two traveling at the speed of light.

  • @Corwin12000
    @Corwin12000 Год назад +2

    Pretty sure Mohgwyn's spear had it's WA nerfed pretty heavily in the latest patch, although i could be wrong

    • @TheGingerhead
      @TheGingerhead Год назад +2

      According to the patch notes, only the pvp range was nerfed. The weapons stats on their own are quite nice, and the WA will still be among the strongest in the game for pve. I don't think its a huge nerf, overall.

    • @captainwafflezs4799
      @captainwafflezs4799 Год назад

      It received a 40% PvP damage nerf unlike the usual 20% for every other ash.

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +2

      It is still bonkers after the nerf.

  • @eldenring_area
    @eldenring_area Год назад +1

    Very nicely done...

  • @Strictly_Jake
    @Strictly_Jake 9 месяцев назад

    I use Lance on horseback with complementing talisman, and claw talisman for land bosses. Best horse combat weapon I've found

  • @holyspear26
    @holyspear26 Год назад +2

    I use shared order in pvp. Is it nerfed too? I definitely feel more powerful when stacking it on sacred infusion + sacred blade. It carries over when you swap weapons.
    I used to run Orders Blade on tree spear pure faith and buffed it this way too. So many charged r2 one shots in pvp 😂

  • @prins-henrik1530
    @prins-henrik1530 Год назад

    1.08 notes:
    Siluria's is really good free aimed in coliseum combat ordeal
    Serpent Hunter now does thrust damage on crouch attack I believe.
    Also counter damage is nerfed, but I don't know if that will make elemental infusions better or not.

  • @Spazzterz323
    @Spazzterz323 Год назад +1

    Im pretty sure theres a pvp pool at higher levels using quality builds

    • @dislikebutton9571
      @dislikebutton9571 Год назад

      yep 200 is fun af, less sweaty tryhards and more build variety.

  • @Darrkerkg
    @Darrkerkg Год назад

    Let's go! Was waiting for this one

  • @dislikebutton9571
    @dislikebutton9571 Год назад

    If you can still do the invasion dupe glitch or use CE to get another serpent hunter, power-stancing them is pretty good on a pure strength build starting hero, since you dont need any dex investment, and it looks cooler than dual lances imo. its pretty dumb you cant just have 2 normally or drop it for a friend since it isnt even that great of a weapon, with the useless aow and the fact you cant even buff it with grease. but i guess its just so that you dont accidentally sell it or delete it before killing rykard. Being able to change the ash or buff it would be nice too, still one of my favorite weapons though, reminds me of nameless king.

  • @nicolasgoulet4091
    @nicolasgoulet4091 4 месяца назад

    M'y idea is a simple optimisation algorithme to find the best avg sets

  • @rocketsocks3116
    @rocketsocks3116 Месяц назад

    Why is the Halberd seen as the more meta weapon for poking?
    How does the poise damage and hyper armor of the two compare?
    Also where can I find that info on the poise and hyper armor and MVs of weapons?

  • @Shumpster4708
    @Shumpster4708 Год назад

    I kept a great lance upgraded on a strength build purely for the mounted attack.

  • @ausarthevile7151
    @ausarthevile7151 Год назад +1

    Please continue dunking on the Fextralife wiki. About time someone has called them out

  • @luciddreamliving258
    @luciddreamliving258 Год назад +1

    Wish bolt of gransax was a great spear. Its got thw sniper shot and great range but my god is the moveset a complete yawn

  • @barrikade8886
    @barrikade8886 Год назад

    Tip for pvp: the serpent hunter's ash of war makes people think that you will 100 percent miss so they go in for big hits when the animation ends, and they can get caught in the follow up, wich can one shot most players. Don't sleep on it

    • @kevo300
      @kevo300 Год назад +1

      Duel wielding serpant hunters and the ash of war is so fun

  • @MonkeyHero
    @MonkeyHero Год назад

    I was wondering if the serpant hunters new update to its weapon art would be taken into consideration :/
    Update list said it got higher damage and poise damage? I think that should be tested to see if it brings down even bigger foes than before. I imagine that matters.

  • @rarefishtycoon6430
    @rarefishtycoon6430 Год назад +2

    Mogh>>>> every other weopon

  • @kakiboi8267
    @kakiboi8267 Год назад

    I was able to do the serpent spear ash of war on a dude just once and i never felt so satisfied

  • @corvent62
    @corvent62 Год назад +1

    I know this is an old vid but i was wondering if vykes war spear weapon art is good on a 25 faith 80 dex build or is it bad bc the flames scale with faith

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +1

      the weapon art isn't great with 25 faith and 80 dex, only the base AR is.

    • @corvent62
      @corvent62 Год назад +1

      @@Chrightt what would you recommend out of stat allocation to get the most out of the weapon? 50 faith 50 dex?

  • @amadhollow635
    @amadhollow635 Год назад

    If you pick up the spear, do nothing for long enough, another will spawn
    I’m not sure how or why, but I happened to me on either 1.06 or 1.07

  • @TheMaxCloud
    @TheMaxCloud 8 месяцев назад

    we really need more regular grestspears

  • @ghayan3028
    @ghayan3028 Год назад

    where i can find the fixed number for each incantation ?
    The damge divided by the inc scaling

  • @blizzardgaming7070
    @blizzardgaming7070 Год назад +1

    I thought the katanas had it bad with two normal weapons, then I saw these.

  • @kratosgamerization4907
    @kratosgamerization4907 Год назад

    I wonder what has longer Range...Pike or Moh

  • @xenosayain1506
    @xenosayain1506 Год назад +1

    I have to admit. Moat 1.07 videos are garbo clickbait. Here you give us a more objective analysis. Thank you sir.

  • @lukatosic09
    @lukatosic09 Год назад +1

    How is serpent hunter r2 different from vyke's and Siluria's?

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +2

      slightly slower and has much higher MV.

    • @captainwafflezs4799
      @captainwafflezs4799 Год назад

      @@Chrightt is it actually slower?

    • @kevo300
      @kevo300 Год назад +1

      Does so much damage

  • @LaputanMachad
    @LaputanMachad Год назад

    Love me Siluria's

  • @efikampi8929
    @efikampi8929 Год назад

    Hey. I couldn't find best dagger guide video on your channel. Is it under development?
    Just wanted to thank you for amazing content well done buddy
    If you can go through daggers and let us know what's going on there
    Thanks a lot ❤️

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад

      It is here: ruclips.net/video/v6JiXU3NDI8/видео.html

  • @greynand8466
    @greynand8466 Год назад

    hey I'm wondering where you get all the in-depth weapon information from such as specific motion values and hyper armor values, i'd really love to read up on all this stuff but the wiki is sadly very lacking in information

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +2

      I have all the resources compiled on my discord (link in description)

    • @greynand8466
      @greynand8466 Год назад +1

      @@Chrightt oh thank you

  • @Ry-ss5dz
    @Ry-ss5dz Год назад

    I often get invaded at RL 120 by ppl power stancing lances with Royal knights resolve. Does anybody know a good counter? I don't think I've ever won a duel against dual great spear builds...

  • @shigasaki3853
    @shigasaki3853 Год назад

    Hi Chirightt make a shythe dedicated video plz.

  • @M2JoyBoy
    @M2JoyBoy Год назад

    6:07 defense what?

  • @bodkin7841
    @bodkin7841 Год назад

    Hate to leave a off-topic question, but do you know if the flails are any longer than hammers? I main hammers/flails rn and trying to see if there's a saving grace for using a flail over a hammer

    • @kevo300
      @kevo300 Год назад +1

      The flails all have basically the same length (nightrider and family heads are slightly bigger) which have more reach than most of the hammers, but the finger hammer and all knowing scepter might be slightly longer but by not much. My souce is the wiki it has the reach of all weapon classes.

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +1

      I have a range comparison video on my channel using the longest weapon class: ruclips.net/video/lTQILtI-Y6o/видео.html
      One thing to note is flails have a floppy hitbox at the tip, so the hits are usually delayed and even slower than expected at the full-length of the hitbox.

    • @bodkin7841
      @bodkin7841 Год назад

      @@Chrightt based in your video it looks like the flails are a decent bit longer, and I will say that's a good point about the floppy hitbox.
      I use mine 2 handed for the poise damage though and that moveset appears to have a straighter swing than the 1h, looks a lot less floppy, so I think the extra few inches makes a significant difference. It definitely feels like it does in pve without lag for sure, so I'm assuming it does in pvp too just harder to notice since it's not like using a gspear instead

    • @bodkin7841
      @bodkin7841 Год назад

      @@kevo300 From what I can tell, the flails are a bit longer than the long hammers, but the difference is negated a bit in 1h because of what chright replied with the floppy hitbox. The 2h moveset seems to swing it harder where the flails are much straighter and less floppy during attacks, so I think the difference is real here
      I mostly use the Stone Club for the giga strength damage (vid in my chanel with my build doing 1100 to 1400 dmg) but have been using the chainlink flail a bit sine its such a rare weapon. With the recent poise buffs to both, I think they're pretty sick weapons now in 2h since they're not really tradeable with a good combo of speed and stagger

  • @TanakaMatsumoto
    @TanakaMatsumoto Год назад

    Is the Serpent hunter really different from Siluria's and Vyke's? Few frames faster or something? Looks like the same animation to me...

    • @kevo300
      @kevo300 Год назад

      Yeah it might be a few frames slower but its miniscule

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад

      Yeah, a tad bit slower.

  • @tristan364
    @tristan364 Год назад

    Lance truly is the best weapon solely for pvp.

  • @prins-henrik1530
    @prins-henrik1530 Год назад

    I did the math for treespear regarding counter hit and thrust damage and factoring in exalted flesh for dex as a replacement for orders blade.
    80 dex (with spear tal, exalted, draw grease) = 1,054.85
    80 fth (with spear tal, orders blade incant)
    = 1,139.18
    Faith is still better for a single spear, but worse for powerstance

  • @Toogzoog
    @Toogzoog Год назад

    Nihil! Nihil! NIHIL!!

  • @xieotv2386
    @xieotv2386 Год назад

    I was waiting 🗿

  • @hopefreeman7063
    @hopefreeman7063 Год назад

    Does madness only work in PvP?

  • @FrankTank47
    @FrankTank47 Год назад

    Iam fairly new to pvp and I was wondering why my heavy spears/ colossal greatsword do more damage with cold and fire Infusion ? I have 31 strength 13 dex. I infused them with heavy even ugs and still does less damage with heavy Infusion tnx to whoever can help cheers !

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +1

      Because you're low on stat investment for offensive stats! Split scaling weapons have an advantage of more raw AR at lower levels. You might want to check one of my old videos out: ruclips.net/video/WTxOJdn3uhk/видео.html

    • @FrankTank47
      @FrankTank47 Год назад

      @@Chrightt wow ty ! Love your videos cheers

  • @spookyjohn6543
    @spookyjohn6543 Год назад +1

    Int biulds realizing they get no great spears:

  • @Crit-Multiplier
    @Crit-Multiplier Год назад

    One of the few? Its the only weapon that inflicts madness right?

  • @ilikespagett1514
    @ilikespagett1514 Год назад

    Where reapers

  • @scootsevan
    @scootsevan Год назад +2

    howdy

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +7

      Hello, person one traveling at the speed of light.

  • @johngratton2301
    @johngratton2301 Год назад

    Everyone one: Math is boring!!
    Elden Ring players: 0.187 x 100 math is great woohoo!!

  • @BaBaNaNaBa
    @BaBaNaNaBa Год назад

    dual vykes is trash after status scaling nerf. like old 1.8x vs new 1.3x starus buildup.

    • @Chrightt
      @Chrightt  Год назад +1

      It is still incredibly powerful because PS GS allows u to keep pressuring with PS crouch attacks.

  • @stevenobrien7686
    @stevenobrien7686 Год назад

    "Shunter isn't that great" man wth?

  • @TomFildoDagggins
    @TomFildoDagggins Год назад +1

    you love to se a Chraightt vid in your inbox :D