I'm thinking of getting one of these for my husband for Christmas. This video really helped me decide which one I would choose. That off-road comparison was the deciding point.
1. The V11 Travel didnt change. On Kujis prototype it was already 85. 2. The back on the S18 is still Aluminium. Only the Sliders are steel. 3. The light dimming down is not for the rider. Its for the unit to have a chance to cooldown on the slower settings of the fan but nevermind. 4. You testing jumps/offroad and dont bother to put pads on V11? ...
The suspension on the S18 doesn't seem to be working at all, was it a disfunction or was it setup incorrectly? See 6:02 - it looks fully compressed under the rider's weight - sticking out. Then it doesn't compressed on the incoming bump.
Great comparison between the two. Thank you! Nice to see a stock comparison too. What would you recommend to add to them, to make them better in the aspects where they seem to lack a little, compared to the other. Say better comfort on the S18 and better control/grip on the V11? Basically, what would be the first, and maybe most important, mods to make on them, for a rider that would by one and want to optimize them a bit? / A Swede that plans to buy one of them.
hey, Connor here! that’s an awesome video idea, i believe we’ve got another in the works for that! the V11 and S18 setup videos on this channel are a good place to start. the suspension adds a whole level of complexity and customization to what we’ve had to deal with in the past, and those videos will help a lot to get you riding comfortably!
@@csmyers11 Hi! Thanks for the respons! Will look at the other videos too, of course. It just hit me when you pointed out tha similarities and differences between them, in such a straightforward way. Thanks again!
Very nice review. I’m not as concerned about comparing the two but I just got my v11 and coming from an msx with pads locking me in, I feel like I’m about to fall off my v11 when braking or accelerating hard. I can’t get any leverage on the wheel. You’re right it feels like a shoe that’s way too big, about to slip off at any moment. I tried installing my pads on v11 but that rubber saddle material doesn’t hold the super strength 3m Velcro. I’m thinking about drilling little screws with fat washers through the saddle to hold my Velcro down. I also ordered some little levers that screw in above your upper foot, holding you down so you don’t get bounced off. Those will help when they arrive from hulaj market in Poland, but I won’t be able to fold my pedals up.
I ordered those same flight pads from Hulaj. I do not have big feet, and I need to be able to put my feet more forward on the pedals or else I spend too much effort on acceleration. The flypads restrict me from doing so.
@@flashyflash7152 oh really? They keep you from placing your foot too far forward? What if you had pads also, that allowed you to accelerate with your shins, do you think the hulaj pegs would be more useful- for braking and for making sure you don’t get bounced off your pedals? In other words do you think you could place your feet less forward?
@@darkstar4494 Yes I do believe with power pads I could get the acceleration I need. The fly pads will help prevent being bounced off but I don’t see how it helps with breaking power, perhaps stability. With the power pads out in the market, I dislike how it limits the bend in my knees. I feel too attached to the wheel for my preference (I think chooch touched on this in his latest video). I’m looking forward to what The EUC Guy is doing with his power pads.
@@flashyflash7152 I was imagining that the hulaj legs would allow you to lean back on your heels and push the top of your foot upward to help with braking. I agree about pads locking you in too much, I don’t like the alternative either though, I can’t accelerate or more importantly brake nearly as hard without pads. I made my own and made the front pad as thin as possible. Thick rear pads don’t get in the way, they’re just nice for emergency braking.
I noticed how soft the wheel pressure was for s18 on hillclimb test footage. It definitely affected both speed and battery consumption to the worse. (also the "music" around 7:00 is really offputting)
Thanks for your comparison video guys. Both KingSong S18 and InMotion V11 are awesome wheels. Work out which one is for you and get out there and enjoy the ride!!! :)
If you buy and expensive car, can you keep it for like 20 years? Will it still be running? It depends - on the model, how you ride it, how many times you wreck it, etc.
I'm going to sound like a pedantic fucker, but 30% remaining battery actually implies the V11 battery is roughly 50% bigger than the S18. You have been right if you said the S18 was 30% smaller though : P ALSO, this is one of the best video I've seen comparing the two. Most of the other videos it feels like the riders aren't experienced enough to push the eucs to their limit. You guys did, and with style! The cinematography was hype!
Yes! Before posting, I read through the whole comments section to see if anyone brought this up, only to find your comment at the end. The V11 (1500wh) battery is 36% larger than the S18 (1100wh), assuming my source is correct. The guy said 32% of the battery remained, and that it's a 30% larger battery. If they were both at 100% and discharged the same amount, 100% of the smaller, the larger would be at 27%. If it was only 30% larger, same scenario, it would be at 23%. Using the miles traveled numbers he reported, the V11 actually got 37 wh/mile, and the S18 got 34 wh/mile. This could be due to a number of factors, the most obvious being the fact that the S18 was operated down to 0%. So yes, really useful video, but that part should have been revised before inclusion in the final edit to make sure that it makes sense.
I enjoyed your comparison. one thing you didn't seem to address was the weight difference. The V11 is 60 pounds, 12 more than the S18. Any comments? Also, I see that there is a seat and positioning pads available for the V11, which I like. Not to mention the bigger battery pack, which I'm guessing is a large part of the extra weight. an extra 10+ miles seems worth it.
I experienced a crash with the Inmotion v11 due to Motherboard issues. Be careful since this is common with these wheels. Check out my story ruclips.net/video/eI9kZ_vUZ9s/видео.html
@@FinnBjerke gotcha. It’s a hard choice. My first wheel was the original Kingsong 18 which is fantastic. Still works great. Then got the z10. Not so great. So it’s hard not to trust KS again
The S18’s suspension is messed up from the start: you can see the oversized penny washers installed on the linkage arms...that’s a major FAIL! That’s a manufacturing defect.
@@ruskeee Yes, I have definitely observed performance problems. It's a mechanical defect that defies common sense. Using oversized washers on the suspension linkage defeats the whole purpose of having bearings. My suspension was stuck as shit and so is this one in this video and they are clueless to it. My S18 has been sent back to the dealer to have this, among other things, like also split washers, repaired. It's a clear manufacturing defect and a warranty issue.
@@Bridgeboy69 hey bridgeboy, Connor here. i’ve been working on these S18 videos since the preproduction models and have tried both the 1st and 2nd batch wheels as well. the washers have since been replaced and the stiction issue has been addressed. the S18 in this video and S18s moving forward definitely do not have the same issue that your early model did. i’ve ridden 5-6 different S18s now and only the earliest batch 1 and preproduction wheels had any issue. hopefully that helps!
@@csmyers11 The S18 in this video has oversized penny washers on the center linkage point. How can you have an oversized washer bearing on the linkage arm and not the bearing and not have an issue?
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I think the test should be done on the V11 with Clark pads,
I mean it’s a stock comparison so... 🤷🏼
I'm thinking of getting one of these for my husband for Christmas. This video really helped me decide which one I would choose. That off-road comparison was the deciding point.
So wich one you gonna get?
@@krikri3387 The King Song is under the tree 😏
@@lillishawker5559 good choice!
@@lillishawker5559 your husband is lucky . He will be stoked
Dream to have own EUC 😍.
Keep Vlogging EUC More Power 😁✌
I sure like my V8f and was riding it in the snow today, now eating my heart out for your riding area. Follow the fun.
After market pads for the V11 really make up the difference
So curious - you guys do over Leans on the hill climb test and get mad beeps. Isn’t that risking a face plant?
1. The V11 Travel didnt change. On Kujis prototype it was already 85.
2. The back on the S18 is still Aluminium. Only the Sliders are steel.
3. The light dimming down is not for the rider. Its for the unit to have a chance to cooldown on the slower settings of the fan but nevermind.
4. You testing jumps/offroad and dont bother to put pads on V11? ...
The suspension on the S18 doesn't seem to be working at all, was it a disfunction or was it setup incorrectly?
See 6:02 - it looks fully compressed under the rider's weight - sticking out.
Then it doesn't compressed on the incoming bump.
Great comparison between the two. Thank you! Nice to see a stock comparison too. What would you recommend to add to them, to make them better in the aspects where they seem to lack a little, compared to the other. Say better comfort on the S18 and better control/grip on the V11? Basically, what would be the first, and maybe most important, mods to make on them, for a rider that would by one and want to optimize them a bit?
/ A Swede that plans to buy one of them.
hey, Connor here! that’s an awesome video idea, i believe we’ve got another in the works for that! the V11 and S18 setup videos on this channel are a good place to start. the suspension adds a whole level of complexity and customization to what we’ve had to deal with in the past, and those videos will help a lot to get you riding comfortably!
@@csmyers11 Hi! Thanks for the respons! Will look at the other videos too, of course. It just hit me when you pointed out tha similarities and differences between them, in such a straightforward way.
Thanks again!
I have to say v11 is for me and my style of riding...which is staying below 40 km/h...
Very nice review.
I’m not as concerned about comparing the two but I just got my v11 and coming from an msx with pads locking me in,
I feel like I’m about to fall off my v11 when braking or accelerating hard. I can’t get any leverage on the wheel.
You’re right it feels like a shoe that’s way too big, about to slip off at any moment.
I tried installing my pads on v11 but that rubber saddle material doesn’t hold the super strength 3m Velcro.
I’m thinking about drilling little screws with fat washers through the saddle to hold my Velcro down.
I also ordered some little levers that screw in above your upper foot, holding you down so you don’t get bounced off.
Those will help when they arrive from hulaj market in Poland, but I won’t be able to fold my pedals up.
I ordered those same flight pads from Hulaj. I do not have big feet, and I need to be able to put my feet more forward on the pedals or else I spend too much effort on acceleration. The flypads restrict me from doing so.
@@flashyflash7152 oh really? They keep you from placing your foot too far forward?
What if you had pads also, that allowed you to accelerate with your shins, do you think the hulaj pegs would be more useful- for braking and for making sure you don’t get bounced off your pedals? In other words do you think you could place your feet less forward?
@@darkstar4494 Yes I do believe with power pads I could get the acceleration I need. The fly pads will help prevent being bounced off but I don’t see how it helps with breaking power, perhaps stability. With the power pads out in the market, I dislike how it limits the bend in my knees. I feel too attached to the wheel for my preference (I think chooch touched on this in his latest video). I’m looking forward to what The EUC Guy is doing with his power pads.
@@flashyflash7152 I was imagining that the hulaj legs would allow you to lean back on your heels and push the top of your foot upward to help with braking.
I agree about pads locking you in too much, I don’t like the alternative either though, I can’t accelerate or more importantly brake nearly as hard without pads.
I made my own and made the front pad as thin as possible. Thick rear pads don’t get in the way, they’re just nice for emergency braking.
Thanks for the great review
Thanks for the comparison review
all i can say they re both better then my ninebot z10 , and inmotion V11 is the best ever
nice review, guys !
I noticed how soft the wheel pressure was for s18 on hillclimb test footage. It definitely affected both speed and battery consumption to the worse.
(also the "music" around 7:00 is really offputting)
No bearing problems on the v11 problems?
Hey guys please do an indepth vid on V11 tire/ shock pressure / rider weight..theres a lot of misc info out there with no real testing
Faltan los subtítulos en español plss 👍👍👍👍
fly pad is a must for v11
Thanks for your comparison video guys. Both KingSong S18 and InMotion V11 are awesome wheels. Work out which one is for you and get out there and enjoy the ride!!! :)
When are the 3rd batch of v11s arriving? This wait is KILLING me
What's the name of the DNB and dubstep tracks?
Really enjoyed this video. Keep it up.
Greatest review the I've watched over that two suspension wheel. Could you please segment next videos by youtube and convert mph to kph. Thank you!
Where CAnnn I buy
Interesting ! But turn that music OFF !
Ollie Beneth just pretend it's toto from Africa
Yeah, too loud
When it starts it sounds like a commercial interruption 😝
If i buy an expensive euc can i keep it for like 20 years? Will it still be running?
If you buy and expensive car, can you keep it for like 20 years? Will it still be running?
It depends - on the model, how you ride it, how many times you wreck it, etc.
Name how many rideable machines you have over 20 years old.
20 years that's a tough question but i find after 2 years Zero problems.
No battery lasts for 20 years. Max 6 or 7 years. And probably it will last max 2 or 3 years because no matter how careful, you will crash your EUC
I'm going to sound like a pedantic fucker, but 30% remaining battery actually implies the V11 battery is roughly 50% bigger than the S18. You have been right if you said the S18 was 30% smaller though : P
ALSO, this is one of the best video I've seen comparing the two. Most of the other videos it feels like the riders aren't experienced enough to push the eucs to their limit. You guys did, and with style! The cinematography was hype!
Yes! Before posting, I read through the whole comments section to see if anyone brought this up, only to find your comment at the end.
The V11 (1500wh) battery is 36% larger than the S18 (1100wh), assuming my source is correct. The guy said 32% of the battery remained, and that it's a 30% larger battery. If they were both at 100% and discharged the same amount, 100% of the smaller, the larger would be at 27%. If it was only 30% larger, same scenario, it would be at 23%. Using the miles traveled numbers he reported, the V11 actually got 37 wh/mile, and the S18 got 34 wh/mile. This could be due to a number of factors, the most obvious being the fact that the S18 was operated down to 0%.
So yes, really useful video, but that part should have been revised before inclusion in the final edit to make sure that it makes sense.
I enjoyed your comparison. one thing you didn't seem to address was the weight difference. The V11 is 60 pounds, 12 more than the S18. Any comments? Also, I see that there is a seat and positioning pads available for the V11, which I like. Not to mention the bigger battery pack, which I'm guessing is a large part of the extra weight. an extra 10+ miles seems worth it.
What is better suspension- s18 or v11? And why. Thank you guys. It's great comparison
based on the Video, I believe you would feel more confident with the S18 Suspensions.
The s18 has superior suspension. The v11 has the superior handle
Not to be that guy, but I’d want someone to tell me too: chassis is pronounced “ch-ass-ee”, the s at the end is silent.
Thanks for the review!
When I heard it, I was angry. I guess now I know what it feels like to be a grammar notz-ee. I never understood it before
you testing a product but you arent fully safet .If you fall out the wheel hit the floor arms and shoulder you lose it
I experienced a crash with the Inmotion v11 due to Motherboard issues. Be careful since this is common with these wheels. Check out my story ruclips.net/video/eI9kZ_vUZ9s/видео.html
❤❤😍🥰🤘🤜🤛 awesome video... stay safe and have a nice weekend gruuuzzzz
You need a DIY pad to hold your foot on the pedal - Itll take you less than five minutes to add that. Its a huge improvement
you have any link to it?
@@jayjaytv2563 just a small blok of eva foam on top of your foot ....double tape it.. Go to euc forum dot com for more info.
Finn you mean on the V11? That’s what I’m leaning towards for my next wheel
@@barrett5229 yup... the bearings problem is a pain in the neck its a good wheel .... A little fragile ... But suspension is very very good.
@@FinnBjerke gotcha. It’s a hard choice. My first wheel was the original Kingsong 18 which is fantastic. Still works great. Then got the z10. Not so great. So it’s hard not to trust KS again
damn music ...
👍👍👍👍👍🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷👍👍👍👍
God that music is so loud
The S18’s suspension is messed up from the start: you can see the oversized penny washers installed on the linkage arms...that’s a major FAIL! That’s a manufacturing defect.
Have you personally observed any performance deficiencies due to this, or are you just parroting what others have said?
@@ruskeee Yes, I have definitely observed performance problems. It's a mechanical defect that defies common sense. Using oversized washers on the suspension linkage defeats the whole purpose of having bearings. My suspension was stuck as shit and so is this one in this video and they are clueless to it. My S18 has been sent back to the dealer to have this, among other things, like also split washers, repaired. It's a clear manufacturing defect and a warranty issue.
@@Bridgeboy69 hey bridgeboy, Connor here. i’ve been working on these S18 videos since the preproduction models and have tried both the 1st and 2nd batch wheels as well. the washers have since been replaced and the stiction issue has been addressed. the S18 in this video and S18s moving forward definitely do not have the same issue that your early model did. i’ve ridden 5-6 different S18s now and only the earliest batch 1 and preproduction wheels had any issue. hopefully that helps!
@@csmyers11 The S18 in this video has oversized penny washers on the center linkage point. How can you have an oversized washer bearing on the linkage arm and not the bearing and not have an issue?
I would say next time wear some jeans or appropriate shorts. Not your girlfriends clothes
non sense to me
CHASSIS IS SIMPLY PRONOUNCED CHASSY GOOFY