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Even a MacBook Pro's battery will drain in its sleep if you run Windows in a virtual machine. The hardware isn't the problem; it's the Windows operating system.
The only software I’ve needed to buy for my Mac was a $12 window management tool now made redundant by the latest OS. I can also run Linux and Windows on it should I want to. Battery life? I have an M2 Mini Pro and my phone for when I’m mobile and plan on getting an iPad for longer trips. I’m through with Windows.
@@polishtheday Good call. With Windows 11 24H2 comes nonstop monitoring by Microsoft Recall. This will lead to unintended violation of non-disclosure agreements and disclosure of intellectual property (both yours and customers).
The Arm CPU architecture was developed as a part of an initiative started by the UK government way back in 1979. Professor Steve Furber and Sophie Wilson came up with the Arm 1 CPU. As a British citizen you should be proud of this. We would not have the Apple M1, or any other modern Arm CPUs without British ingenuity.
@@meeladalsulaiman9193 in multicore m4 cant beat AMD or intel in actual 3d rendering and multiple timeline editing with effects several highly serious production tasks cant be done by m4
The elephant in the room is called Rosetta! It is the single best feature of Mac OS! You can run non native apps with almost zero lag or penalty! Microsoft needs to that to compete! Perhaps a dedicated chip on chip to decode x86?
@@UbuntuPersonNoMint So was Rosetta in its first year... Windows is about to get a massive update to Prism that allows more CPU features under translation and access to more architecture features such as 32 dependency instruction sets. Things can only really improve, but unlike Apple... Microsoft has to make it work for every Arm laptop available.
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I'm guessing a good 50% of all laptop sales are from casual users, and for them buying apple would be a waste of money just as much as it would be to buy high end windows. Windows has a big market share because they also offer very low end solutions.
@@CleanDesign_ The problem with judging a device off of being the "singular best selling-device" is because Apple does not make many different models of laptops. While Apples macbook air represents the entirety of their affordable laptop segment, companies like asus, acer, Lenovo, hp, and dell may have hundreds of different laptop models available in the low/medium end.
most people moved from windows to iOS or android. The mac mini m4 though is going to be a big seller. I wish apple made a "workstation" line of gear. Alas pro in apple terms just means premium.
Also, don’t forget you’re comparing with a M1 why don’t you try to compare with a M4 max RAV4 pro I think you’ll see that the windows machine just can’t
Bro just think logically he compared 1 generation products from each platform that's. And he can do only what he have 😅 He may not have any m4 Mac portables platform products so he didn't. I think you're the one who is annoyed. He mentioned it in video too 😂.
same the issues that you mention with mac are what keep me from buying a mac book and also an iphone. being able to do anything you want with your device and not having to pay for every other software is such a cool thing on windows
Huh? Macbooks come with more software installed (or free) than windows (keynote, imovie, numbers, pages, preview, garageband) and tons of open source stuff to install. Totally agree on being able to do anything you want, for example repairing it yourself. Although since Apple has less models, it is easier to get parts, only repairing your laptop with them is a bit of a challenge. A lot less parts available for all the different windows laptops/brands
Do not fail to address the elephant in the room, that being many x86/x64 applications simply will either not function or will crash while running under emulation.
I bought a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x laptop a couple of weeks ago. I absolutely love it. The Snapdragon processor is really fast and battery life is great - I always charge at night and haven't had a problem with power running out over a full days use. The Lenovo itself is great with the best laptop screen I've even seen (14.5" OLED with 2944x1840 at 90 Hz and with touch) and 3 very speedy USB-C ports.. but those are the only ports (!) so I keep a USB-C to HDMI dongle and a USB-C to USB-A adapter in my backpack (I can make that work, but I wish they had 2 USB-C ports on each side). The only real downside is gaming: If you want a gaming laptop then you should still stick with x86-based laptops because very many games don't work at all and those that do are all emulated and probably will be for the foreseeable future which makes them slower and more battery draining when they even work. (I have a good gaming PC and game very little on the move, so it's fine for me.. I just tested a bit to see if it would work)
@@Josh-im9go I've never been away from charging points for that long with it, so I haven't tested that but when I brought it along for a 4 day weekend I had almost 70% battery left when I returned and I used it a fair bit. I think they are similar in battery life (going by tests).
That weak GPU is still a major issue. The beauty of the Mac is that they did a good job at supporting all use cases. Blender? check. AI prototyping with pytorch/tensorflow? Check. CAD? Check. Qualcomm obviously lags behind, but I'm also not sure they'll be as effective in supporting pros, rather than just pumping out a machine that makes general use (and corporate data harvesting) easier. They must aim to match the performance of (say) a mobile 4070 in *all* use cases, also by investing in a CUDA compatibility layer and doing it better than AMD did. Also, I really don't like how Snapdragon laptops also imitate the bad things about Macs: no RAM upgrade, no storage upgrade, no easy servicing.
Yeah, would love a more powerful GPU in there. Luckily it seems like devs have been able to do quite a bit with what they currently have (maybe good app optimizations with CPU and GPU tasks) might be more in the hands of app devs at this point if adobe is doing, dare I say it.... Well? Also, every snapdragon laptop I saw had storage upgradeable and (except for the SP11) looked pretty easy to get open and replace stuff... RAM is SoC I believe so I'm less bullish on that vs soldered to motherboard.
If you need a very powerful GPU, do not waste your money on a MAC or any SNAPDRAGON computer. Intel or AMD with a dedicated GPU will always be the best way to go. AI is by far better on WINDOWS than MAC as of today. Future may differ.
@@williamcopeland2617 The premise of the video explained it well: the Mac has a *powerful enough* GPU and yet somehow has adequate cooling and adequate power consumption. It's about time PC laptops achieved the same. (AI is best on Linux. Windows gets second place only thanks to WSL, but although I've never tried on Mac -I can't afford it- I see PyTorch distros for MacOS and Apple Silicon GPUs, and no one has yet declared them a shambles like the ones for AMD GPUS)
@@deeomayall I'll debate you any day of the week as far as you saying, AI is better on LINUX. Apple is definitely efficient, but when it comes to using very intense programs absolutely nothing beats wattage. That's why I will always recommend a Windows device if your company's using major programs. Example, TOPAZ literally sucks on MACS, and the reason is because MACS just doesn't offer enough wattage to get the job done unlike a Windows laptop. But again, Apple is very efficient and offers good battery life.
1 - cost. 2 - for apple, jump from intel cpus to M1 was huge, the jump from M1 to M4 is not as huge. 3 - most people in the world wont realistically have access to M3 and 4 cpus for mac, best case scenario for them would be the M2 and most common case would be M1.
Windows is only for Windows games. I'm moving from Windows to Mac OS. I won't use Windows as the major operating system. If I cannot play Windows games in Mac OS and/or on the Arm-based hardware, I will just stop playing Windows games. New life. Better life.
I love the competition. If someone chooses any brand, these new chips provide a laptop for all audiences. For me personally, Lunar Lake laptops meet all my needs. For other, like video and photo editors who don't game, the M4 MacBook Pro would be the best choice.
So shortsighted, Windows needs to run on a gazillion devices while macos runs only on 1, on top of that, jack shit is compatible with apple either. Although I like the quality and a handful of features that would be desired on windows the concessions you make going to apple is far worse
@LeoLau-jw7ji yes it does indeed, but have you ever seen someone using stock macos? All those fanboys need to install like 15 external apps to get to a point that macos become usable.
@@DavidMorenoH A lot of people do like Mac OS. But I think you're in the minority. Other than gaming, the MacBook Pro is so far and away the best laptop for 99% of people that I think a lot more people would use it if it weren't for the OS. Windows runs better virtualized on an M1 Pro than it did on a Surface Pro 9; I've never even gotten to try it on anything newer than that.
I have a Surface Pro 11 LCD model w 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD. It's a huge leap over my old 12th Gen Intel Samsung laptop. Native ARM apps are so fast and battery life is a full work day! Highly recommend it, since TOUCH and PEN capabilities really make it a fun device to use. Please take a real look and see if it fits your needs.
11:15 Just hold the option key (Cmd-Option-i or Option-Rightclick) to get an info window with a summation of the files selected. Not reading the manual or using the help menu is "amazingly stupid". Regarding saving money on software: Macs come with a lot of software that is not free on Windows (e.g. Pages, GarageBand, Preview, Scripteditor, all the Unix tools in the Terminal ...). So how much you'd have to spend on software is highly dependent on the specific use case.
Great vid. But not sure about the validity of comparing M1 (3 generations old) chip with 2024 arm-4-windows silicon. New arm silicon stacks up well Vs wintel/win-amd though 🙂🙂
I am a Unix person and Mac OS X is an excellent Unix system that is way better even than WSL2 and any other emulator. My big issue with Mac OS X is having the menu at the top of the screen which works terrible for widescreen monitors. Snapdragon is not even close to the overall performance of an M3 or M4. I tried one and it was just ok but would only be a portable that cannot be your only machine unless you’re doing just standard office computing stuff. The Mac M4 Max I have replaces everything and I only need the one computer.
well said! it was quite the novelty discovering WSL while dabbling back in Windows but the luster wore off quickly, it was clear the heart of Windows is not UN*X & it was a breath of fresh air to be back in macOS interfacing Linux servers.
If you take a good distro and well-supported hardware, it's pretty chill. I only switched to a Mac because my laptop had some GPU quirks under Linux and some software didn't run, so I would need to dual-boot.
If you hit the option key when right clicking on the files, you can have a combined total of the files (using show inspector) instead of the individual size counts in Mac OS
Brought a M4 Mac for work. Now Im gaming on it. All games I play perform incredible well. I think about installing debian on my desktop and using it as LLM playball. W11 is bad anyways.
Are you using Parallels or limit your games to the ones available for MacOS? Curious since my M3 Pro could also be a game beast actually but I never tried.
@@davidwho1424 I primarily play native macOS games on my M4 (MAX). I've also experimented with emulation, which runs surprisingly well on Apple Silicon. While the fans do run constantly during gaming sessions, it doesn't bother me since I use a headset. Performance has been impressive overall on this hardware.
@@MLCHRLemulation is exactly why I transitioned back to a MBP - I saw the writing on the wall after watching Andrew Tsai's videos (while enhancing Batocera Linux & playing around w RetroBat for Windows)! truly impressed w M1 performance & the jump to the M4 & beyond is something I look forward to & feels great not to be in a rush! 🕹️
Thanks for the content. Enjoyed and subscribed. I love Macs but never made it to the M series. Reason I came back to windows is because I’ll always need windows OS for my work (boring data work) and getting a Mac means I have to double or triple the RAM as I would lose half running parallels (2 OS systems ran at the same time). So while I accept Apple is now next level. It’s cheaper for me to get a Surface with 16GB RAM allocated fully to windows than a 32GB RAM Mac to split the RAM and on top pay for Paralells subscription. Snapdragon chips have me that efficiency that I craved. I don’t need major graphics grunt. The spare money can go to an iPad to do my modest media work (basically just photo edits). 👍🏾
You’re comparing a 2021 laptop with 2024 laptops and still it outperforms only most of the tasks, I have an M1 Max as well and I love it, I feel it still incredibly fast and responsive, but the new M4 macs are somehow up to 4 times faster specially on gpu tasks like rendering, no laptop with Qualcomm has ray tracing dedicated hardware and the laptops that have it with windows are huge, horrible and they must be plugged in all the time to get the full performance something that makes no sense in a laptop. I recognize that right now Nvidia has the best gpu’s and for my work as architect they are the best option, that’s why I built myself a desktop pc with high end components like a 13700K and a 4080 but still my MacBook is my favorite tools for most of the things I do like 3D modeling, documentation etc. I use my Pc just for rendering the projects I make on my MacBook, probably with an M4 or M5 the pc won’t be needed anymore, I’ll most certainly get the M5 max next year.
Whilst having a macbook pro for personal use, truly I have found it limiting.My productivity is way higher on my windows machines at work.. If they can optimise their hardware and os, I'm.100% going back.
I think @TechLens main complaint is the power drain on Windows laptops. Some people may find this surprising but not everyone needs the latest and the greatest. Stuff just needs to be good enough, and even 5 year old laptops are powerful for most people's needs so long as they are not too heavy and the battery lasts long enough. Those doing in multimedia related tasks like graphics and video editing and games are the ones the latest and greatest machines matter to. That being said if you are in the market for new laptop, you might as well buy that is lightest and lasts longest on a charge, and that is still the Apple laptop, so long as it runs the software you want.
Left Mac 23 years ago because OSX was trash, and Windows wasn't that bad anymore and their machines were half the price with a lot more power. Now, I'm going back to Mac because the Windows OS has gotten almost unusable. Also, it doesn't hurt Macs are back to using Arm Chips again.
My most intensive app is for orchestral music production. Cubase Pro using a multichannel external ASIO capable sound and MIDI interface, multiple VST music plugins and VEP Pro to manage the plugins, requires both a powerful multicore CPU and LOTS of RAM. My most recent desktop build included 128GB or RAM. Yet to see any laptop that comes close to the specs needed. I did try using laptops for music production but kept hitting that RAM ceiling.
MSI 18” Titan and Raider take up to 192GB. Clevo’s 17” goes up to 96GB. The Clevo is notable in that it draws higher power and outperforms, but its battery life likely sucks… and it’s 7.5 lbs. The MSIs are a bit less heavy.
@ as best as I can tell, these are the only two PC laptop manufacturers supporting higher than 64GB from the factory. There could be others out there, in particular Chinese laptops, but I’m not personally interested in those and would not know about them.
windows has nothing but performance and efficiency tho macbooks have a whole apple ecosystem which many ppl actually like whilst also having reliable performance and battery and its all backed up by probably the best engineers in the world.
The main reason people are leaving Windows is because Microsoft is pushing us to a bad Windows 11 OS (not mention screwing our perfectly good older machines). Apple Arm Chips are just the icing on the cake.
my solution to all this is to use them all - i use Android, iPadOS, macOS, Linux, Windows, Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Edge, M1, x86 to mix it up & keep myself from getting pigeonholed (or tunnelvisioned) & appreciate the best of all worlds. To creating access to an integrated & diverse world y'all! 🌏
here a quick tip(and yes don't just enter this if you haven't done the research) on terminal type shutdwon /h and this will force the deep sleep hibernation mode that was on windows before it went to sh*. THis will also work on handhelds like legion go, alley/s/x, any windows based with a battery, The boot up isn't bad either not instant, but this works so well. I put my handhelds to deep sleep each time and it takes 7sec to boot back up no more battery drain.
Honestly the m4 pro is a different beast to anything available and with it being backed up by the Apple ecosystem I don’t think anything competes especially with everything it can do without needing dongles , cables and apps. The Magic Keyboard and Mouse is magic once you realize you can control multiple devices at once without needing to press a toggle switch. Files is a free Dropbox install on your devices that you can access anywhere . You have all your files in one place. The m4 pro does way better than the m1 pro. I see the flaws but the benefits surpass the cons for me. And with me just having one thunderbolt to connect to a monitor or dock to connect two monitors and ssd,micro sd. Just works. Plus the iPhone as a webcam is better than anything on the market. For work and daily life Apple is the way to go. Also the watch can unlock all your devices. And AirPods can be easily used by any Apple device without needing to disconnect and paired again. Way more things I can say about Apple that does way better than anything on the market.
Years ago, i stopped using computers ie laptops and towers. Switched to ipad and never looked back. It does everything I need. And if i absolutely need a laptop, i can just buy a keyboard case for my ipad or one plus pad and use them.
You start “Three years ago, I switched to a MacBook”, but your videos for the last 3 years are 99% about Windows-based hardware. That’s not a switch. That’s a pose.
Relax fanboy. I have M3 Max Pro and Windows Desktop. I've customized both of them to be very efficient with my work, so stop being a noob like Mac wanna be talking about the OS. If you know or willing to learn you will customize system for your needs regardless the OS.
So you can’t tally your folder sizes? Hmmm…I’ve been a hard core computer user since the earliest days and I’ve never had to do that. Yes, opening all windows to tally totals. 99.99% of users will never need that. What they need is smooth, intuitive, operations.. Here’s the gist of all the “Windows is back, baby” baby:” Caveats. Love to know which mainstream programs are paid on Mac OS that are free on Windows. I’m guessing most users don’t use those apps.
not the experience I had on a ROG Ally & Legion Go - while handheld PC gaming was truly inspiring - Windows is their downfall - it was getting stuck on boot & shutdown all the time & this was a 1 or 2 week old install.
You can get that for free now with VMWare Fusion Pro (for personal use; there's still commercial licenses available). I tried Win11 and Debian and both work flawlessly (on an M3 Pro). I can even play my Steam games on Win11 in there as long as they are not too demanding.
The only Microsoft product I would purchase is an Xbox. I'm not interested in their Windows , windows 365, or recall nightmare. I'll stick to a standard PC running Linux and maybe a mac ..maybe lol.
I guess you want to be controversial. Dev work is best done on Unix systems (Linux/macOS). Content creation, macOS. Gaming is the only Windows advantage but both Linux and macOS are catching up.
Carry your Windows laptop in your backpack without 100% confidence that It is totally shut down, and you can finish with a toasted dead laptop or damaged for life. It still has an Nvidia GPU, which is still a huge energy consumer, and vents are closed. Good luck.
+1 on batt & hw. returned two handheld PCs I was evaluating because the battery just didn't cut it. that said, Windoze is still an abomination & this is coming from someone who got along w WinXP after using UN*X workstations & the original Macs for 4 years in college. amazing what Apple hardware & software is today!
If you love windows you love windows but most Mac users do not care what windows comes up with/has to offer, Mac users are so far into the ecosystem, u can’t easily switch, there end to end system is like 20 years ahead. Mac made more sense even before the chip change, arm was just the icing on the cake
Microsoft had plenty of time to refine & create an ecosystem - they just didn't care. I always laugh when I'm in Windows & an interface straight from WinXP or Win2k comes up - that is straight up legacy & fear of change which stiffles innovation!
"all the reasons Macs are being great, but now running Windows" 🤣 My dear, I switched to a Mac, in spite of the bad-ish price because I wanted to avoid running Windows for when I needed apps that don't run on Linux. It helped that the ARM-based Macs actually have a decent price-performance ratio (and I include the screen and physical build to the calculation) and that if you want to avoid the absolute pain and mess that Windows is, it's the only real solution. I still prefer Linux, but it's a compromise I was willing to make.
Need Refresh button in Finder/File manager in Mac desperately. Many times OneDrive or other online change do not reflect in the device immediately. Just give a frikin Refresh button, don't be so egoistic Apple, just copy this feature. 🙏
I think cpu performance isnt the point anymore. Choose the operating system you prefer and find a laptop that fits your needs. In my opinion M series Macbooks are still unmatched especially since the base models have at least 16 gb ram. If you compare chips from the same generations the only reason to buy a Windows Laptop might be the OS. Build quality, gpu performance, noise emmission… abailability of native software, everything is better on Mac. 🤷🏼♂️
I'm not a fan of MacOS I also hated Win 11 till the recent update. I was so close to purchase the iPad m4 mainly for the battery life and performance for on the go editing. I ended up going with the Surface Pro 11 LCD because I didn't wanna pay $500 for 1tb SSD the same reason why I'm not buying the new Mac Mini 256ssd for $599 512 for $200 more smh. 2tb added to surface pro for less than $150
I have never heard anyone else say what you have said about the OS in macbookOS compared to OS in windows...as I have had to learn another way to think and go through apple OS's on macbook, ipad, and iphone and painfully have to guide my friends and family over many years through ups and downs of apple verses windows pros and cons. As I said in 2020...it will be less than 5 years when windows catches up and probably surpass apple silicon...that is now coming true in 2024 on a hardware side... As I deal more with multi media than data or programming, my preference and work flow is more affected by multi media programs performance...so native arm based programs written for arm have a massive performance advantage. As I use linux, windows and mac I can really understand what you are talking about here in this video. I have lived the difference of a workflow on all 3 OS. There is no OS that does everything well and never will be, due to personal preference and the next advancement in tech that could make what you use now less functional for your work flow over something else that works better, hard ware or software preferably both being better... That is why I like your video over the vast majority of other videos as I don't see sides one being always being better than another...as this will always change as big tech wants you to keep buying new products...what you are prepared to put up with or use better is more important than anything else over brands or loyalty.
I had a Sony Vaio with an ARM processor and Vista, its that long ago, and it sucked. Even after upgrading bot OS and memory the performance was lagging. So for me ARM was the processor to avoid. Of course that was the smallest possible test set, an accidental experience from one person, but thats how most things work for individuals I think. To hear now that ARM is the best option for Windows laptops is eye opening on many levels!
I don't think apple should be that worried about arm on windows. You might prefer windows, but as someone who uses both machines, I prefer mac os by a large margin. I'm not a fanboy, I just use what I like and what I think is good, and I have windows and ios and mac and android machines and I keep coming back to mac os because everything just works like I want it to. It's all very easy to use. Gaming is the only benefit windows has to me, and that's not even true of these arm devices. And while YOU may prefer windows, there's a growing dissatisfaction with windows both online and in the sales numbers, and that didn't just come from hardware. Macs always had a strong following and a dedicated user base, even when their hardware sucked ass, so as long as their hardware is competitive, that will keep them in the game. Sure, having such a monopoly on quality hardware for nearly half a decade definitely switched some people over from windows, I also know that lots of the people who switched over will just stick with macs, because they prefer the operating system. Most people don't share your experience with windows being better, a lot of them sludge through it for gaming compatibility or specific software needs. Just because Mac hardware isn't the boon for apple like it used to be doesn't mean apple will be struggling as a company, or that macs will be struggling with sales.
re Battery drain while sleeping: very strange, I've had numerous Windows PC and have never suffered from this. Plus you can always turn on auto-hibernation to have ZERO drain. Resume from hibernation will take you 10 seconds max (a negligeable time in one's life, I'm sure you'll agree)
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the best windows laptop is a Macbook.!!!
the one without the massively demolished keyboard lol
Just for the sake of curiosity, how many frames can you get in a benchmark in cyberpunk?
Even a MacBook Pro's battery will drain in its sleep if you run Windows in a virtual machine. The hardware isn't the problem; it's the Windows operating system.
The only software I’ve needed to buy for my Mac was a $12 window management tool now made redundant by the latest OS. I can also run Linux and Windows on it should I want to. Battery life? I have an M2 Mini Pro and my phone for when I’m mobile and plan on getting an iPad for longer trips. I’m through with Windows.
@@polishtheday Good call. With Windows 11 24H2 comes nonstop monitoring by Microsoft Recall. This will lead to unintended violation of non-disclosure agreements and disclosure of intellectual property (both yours and customers).
Windows is a virus, when you sleep it can try to upgrade or see what you're doing.
After switching to linux my laptop while asleep just lasts forever. I can come back days later, it will still be asleep and barely lost any battery
Macs still will randomly have the issue of not going to sleep. Certain applications are written badly and can cause it to stay awake.
The Arm CPU architecture was developed as a part of an initiative started by the UK government way back in 1979. Professor Steve Furber and Sophie Wilson came up with the Arm 1 CPU. As a British citizen you should be proud of this. We would not have the Apple M1, or any other modern Arm CPUs without British ingenuity.
Thank you England for your part in advancing the future.
@@Josh-im9go british aint just england fam
you are comparing latest windows devices with three years old MacBook. Compare it with latest MacBook with M4...
the day video was published M4 was not available
@@porterneon i think he did include M3 benchmarks
thank you
nothing on earth can beat M4,
@@meeladalsulaiman9193 in multicore m4 cant beat AMD or intel
in actual 3d rendering and multiple timeline editing with effects
several highly serious production tasks cant be done by m4
The elephant in the room is called Rosetta! It is the single best feature of Mac OS! You can run non native apps with almost zero lag or penalty! Microsoft needs to that to compete! Perhaps a dedicated chip on chip to decode x86?
You should do more research and find out what prism is.
@@King-Julz Also, translation layers of the like do come with an inherent performance cost. It’s impressive, but not magic.
@@King-Julzprism is still shit though
@@UbuntuPersonNoMint So was Rosetta in its first year... Windows is about to get a massive update to Prism that allows more CPU features under translation and access to more architecture features such as 32 dependency instruction sets. Things can only really improve, but unlike Apple... Microsoft has to make it work for every Arm laptop available.
@King-Julz Rossetta in 2006?
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It's funny how you hear people saying, A-lot of people moved from WINDOWS to MACS, yet MACS market shares are still relatively low. Crazy!!!!
I'm guessing a good 50% of all laptop sales are from casual users, and for them buying apple would be a waste of money just as much as it would be to buy high end windows. Windows has a big market share because they also offer very low end solutions.
@@CleanDesign_ The problem with judging a device off of being the "singular best selling-device" is because Apple does not make many different models of laptops. While Apples macbook air represents the entirety of their affordable laptop segment, companies like asus, acer, Lenovo, hp, and dell may have hundreds of different laptop models available in the low/medium end.
most people moved from windows to iOS or android. The mac mini m4 though is going to be a big seller. I wish apple made a "workstation" line of gear. Alas pro in apple terms just means premium.
@mrrolandlawrence We're talking about computers brotha. Laptops and Desktops. Apples marketshare is ass. Lol...
Most people buy PC for games, if more games out there for Mac, mac will get more market share
Also, don’t forget you’re comparing with a M1 why don’t you try to compare with a M4 max RAV4 pro I think you’ll see that the windows machine just can’t
Actually this entire video is useless based on this fact. But why would he do this?
But this is just the start. They will improve over the next few years.
Bro just think logically he compared 1 generation products from each platform that's.
And he can do only what he have 😅
He may not have any m4 Mac portables platform products so he didn't.
I think you're the one who is annoyed. He mentioned it in video too 😂.
I was asking myself "why I am looking a video about M1 Ultra? M4 Max isn't better?"
One thing ive realised with many review channels. They NEVER compare flagship to flagship and current to current. No matter the tech or device.
same the issues that you mention with mac are what keep me from buying a mac book and also an iphone. being able to do anything you want with your device and not having to pay for every other software is such a cool thing on windows
Huh? Macbooks come with more software installed (or free) than windows (keynote, imovie, numbers, pages, preview, garageband) and tons of open source stuff to install.
Totally agree on being able to do anything you want, for example repairing it yourself. Although since Apple has less models, it is easier to get parts, only repairing your laptop with them is a bit of a challenge. A lot less parts available for all the different windows laptops/brands
@@ramonrichie9683 except for framework though. They have way better part costs, availability, options and they are easier to fix with less tools.
The software I need to run on my Mac is free.
You could get that much much more with Linux.
Sometimes I wonder why Windows Ecosystem is so Open.
For me Windows is the right balance between macOS and Linux
Do not fail to address the elephant in the room, that being many x86/x64 applications simply will either not function or will crash while running under emulation.
I bought a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x laptop a couple of weeks ago. I absolutely love it. The Snapdragon processor is really fast and battery life is great - I always charge at night and haven't had a problem with power running out over a full days use. The Lenovo itself is great with the best laptop screen I've even seen (14.5" OLED with 2944x1840 at 90 Hz and with touch) and 3 very speedy USB-C ports.. but those are the only ports (!) so I keep a USB-C to HDMI dongle and a USB-C to USB-A adapter in my backpack (I can make that work, but I wish they had 2 USB-C ports on each side).
The only real downside is gaming:
If you want a gaming laptop then you should still stick with x86-based laptops because very many games don't work at all and those that do are all emulated and probably will be for the foreseeable future which makes them slower and more battery draining when they even work.
(I have a good gaming PC and game very little on the move, so it's fine for me.. I just tested a bit to see if it would work)
I charge my MacBook once a week! LMAO
@@Josh-im9go I've never been away from charging points for that long with it, so I haven't tested that but when I brought it along for a 4 day weekend I had almost 70% battery left when I returned and I used it a fair bit.
I think they are similar in battery life (going by tests).
11:15 Use option + command + i, then you see the sum of it. Or right click with the option key and choose inspector instead of info.
this!
Thanks! been using Mac for years and didn't know this 😂
That weak GPU is still a major issue. The beauty of the Mac is that they did a good job at supporting all use cases. Blender? check. AI prototyping with pytorch/tensorflow? Check. CAD? Check. Qualcomm obviously lags behind, but I'm also not sure they'll be as effective in supporting pros, rather than just pumping out a machine that makes general use (and corporate data harvesting) easier. They must aim to match the performance of (say) a mobile 4070 in *all* use cases, also by investing in a CUDA compatibility layer and doing it better than AMD did.
Also, I really don't like how Snapdragon laptops also imitate the bad things about Macs: no RAM upgrade, no storage upgrade, no easy servicing.
Yeah, would love a more powerful GPU in there. Luckily it seems like devs have been able to do quite a bit with what they currently have (maybe good app optimizations with CPU and GPU tasks) might be more in the hands of app devs at this point if adobe is doing, dare I say it.... Well?
Also, every snapdragon laptop I saw had storage upgradeable and (except for the SP11) looked pretty easy to get open and replace stuff... RAM is SoC I believe so I'm less bullish on that vs soldered to motherboard.
If you need a very powerful GPU, do not waste your money on a MAC or any SNAPDRAGON computer. Intel or AMD with a dedicated GPU will always be the best way to go. AI is by far better on WINDOWS than MAC as of today. Future may differ.
@@williamcopeland2617 The premise of the video explained it well: the Mac has a *powerful enough* GPU and yet somehow has adequate cooling and adequate power consumption. It's about time PC laptops achieved the same.
(AI is best on Linux. Windows gets second place only thanks to WSL, but although I've never tried on Mac -I can't afford it- I see PyTorch distros for MacOS and Apple Silicon GPUs, and no one has yet declared them a shambles like the ones for AMD GPUS)
@@deeomayall I'll debate you any day of the week as far as you saying, AI is better on LINUX. Apple is definitely efficient, but when it comes to using very intense programs absolutely nothing beats wattage. That's why I will always recommend a Windows device if your company's using major programs. Example, TOPAZ literally sucks on MACS, and the reason is because MACS just doesn't offer enough wattage to get the job done unlike a Windows laptop. But again, Apple is very efficient and offers good battery life.
Not sure about te new M chips, but the old ones are an absolute joke when it comes to blender.
I love the Mac hardware quality and OS experience, but nothing is compatible with it
Why are you using the M1 chip for your comparison when the M4 chip is out?
1 - cost.
2 - for apple, jump from intel cpus to M1 was huge, the jump from M1 to M4 is not as huge.
3 - most people in the world wont realistically have access to M3 and 4 cpus for mac, best case scenario for them would be the M2 and most common case would be M1.
Windows is only for Windows games. I'm moving from Windows to Mac OS. I won't use Windows as the major operating system. If I cannot play Windows games in Mac OS and/or on the Arm-based hardware, I will just stop playing Windows games. New life. Better life.
hats off to you for a willingness to give things up to explore new worlds!
I love the competition. If someone chooses any brand, these new chips provide a laptop for all audiences. For me personally, Lunar Lake laptops meet all my needs. For other, like video and photo editors who don't game, the M4 MacBook Pro would be the best choice.
I think Microsoft is missing the point. If you have a garbage operating system, it doesn't matter how the aesthetics look on the outside.
It would be interesting to compare the battery drain on those MSWindows laptops with Linux installed on the exact same machines.
So shortsighted, Windows needs to run on a gazillion devices while macos runs only on 1, on top of that, jack shit is compatible with apple either. Although I like the quality and a handful of features that would be desired on windows the concessions you make going to apple is far worse
@@HikmetDemirci-l9y the compatibility thing is on purpose and deos ligitmimetly work for them to
@LeoLau-jw7ji yes it does indeed, but have you ever seen someone using stock macos? All those fanboys need to install like 15 external apps to get to a point that macos become usable.
Lol, you're so wrong.
>The biggest reason to buy a Mac is no longer a Mac-only feature.
The biggest reason to buy a Mac is to use macOS, not Windows.
As a Mac user, that is the biggest reason to not use a Mac. Many, perhaps most, people do not like Mac OS. We tolerate it for the hardware.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 As a Mac user too, you're full of BS. I wouldn't use a MBP if it had only Windows on it
@@DavidMorenoH A lot of people do like Mac OS. But I think you're in the minority. Other than gaming, the MacBook Pro is so far and away the best laptop for 99% of people that I think a lot more people would use it if it weren't for the OS. Windows runs better virtualized on an M1 Pro than it did on a Surface Pro 9; I've never even gotten to try it on anything newer than that.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872- OMG! Windows > Mac OS. Still, after YEARS, I sorely miss Windows OS. My Mac makes me dread using it.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 if you think Mac users don’t love MacOS, you don’t know any Mac users
I have a Surface Pro 11 LCD model w 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD. It's a huge leap over my old 12th Gen Intel Samsung laptop. Native ARM apps are so fast and battery life is a full work day! Highly recommend it, since TOUCH and PEN capabilities really make it a fun device to use. Please take a real look and see if it fits your needs.
11:15 Just hold the option key (Cmd-Option-i or Option-Rightclick) to get an info window with a summation of the files selected. Not reading the manual or using the help menu is "amazingly stupid".
Regarding saving money on software: Macs come with a lot of software that is not free on Windows (e.g. Pages, GarageBand, Preview, Scripteditor, all the Unix tools in the Terminal ...). So how much you'd have to spend on software is highly dependent on the specific use case.
From an Apple fan, thanks, i am dreaming of a laptop with over 600 nits oled, games, more than MacBooks now have.
Check out Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 or G16 (2024)
@@martinakumba1754 Thank you for advice
Macbook Pro's does up to 1600 nits on a quantum dot mini LED display with 4K HDR.
We need native BootCamp (Windows) on Apple M-Series (Arm)…
VMware fusion runs on Apple silicon and runs windows as well as many other os environments.
Add [Option] and right click Get Info to get a summary of file selected. ☺
Great video I hope Apple watches this! I’m a Mac person, but I love tech and we are living in great times people can choose what they want!
Another issue is that Qualcomm seems to have lost it's license to make ARM chips...
Great vid. But not sure about the validity of comparing M1 (3 generations old) chip with 2024 arm-4-windows silicon. New arm silicon stacks up well Vs wintel/win-amd though 🙂🙂
I am a Unix person and Mac OS X is an excellent Unix system that is way better even than WSL2 and any other emulator. My big issue with Mac OS X is having the menu at the top of the screen which works terrible for widescreen monitors. Snapdragon is not even close to the overall performance of an M3 or M4. I tried one and it was just ok but would only be a portable that cannot be your only machine unless you’re doing just standard office computing stuff. The Mac M4 Max I have replaces everything and I only need the one computer.
well said! it was quite the novelty discovering WSL while dabbling back in Windows but the luster wore off quickly, it was clear the heart of Windows is not UN*X & it was a breath of fresh air to be back in macOS interfacing Linux servers.
With all the blatant spyware in windows, no thanks. I’d go Linux before going to Windows. I only use Microspy when forced to use my clients’ laptops.
If you take a good distro and well-supported hardware, it's pretty chill. I only switched to a Mac because my laptop had some GPU quirks under Linux and some software didn't run, so I would need to dual-boot.
If you hit the option key when right clicking on the files, you can have a combined total of the files (using show inspector) instead of the individual size counts in Mac OS
Brought a M4 Mac for work. Now Im gaming on it. All games I play perform incredible well. I think about installing debian on my desktop and using it as LLM playball. W11 is bad anyways.
Are you using Parallels or limit your games to the ones available for MacOS? Curious since my M3 Pro could also be a game beast actually but I never tried.
@@davidwho1424 I primarily play native macOS games on my M4 (MAX). I've also experimented with emulation, which runs surprisingly well on Apple Silicon. While the fans do run constantly during gaming sessions, it doesn't bother me since I use a headset. Performance has been impressive overall on this hardware.
Team Asahi Linux !
@@MLCHRLemulation is exactly why I transitioned back to a MBP - I saw the writing on the wall after watching Andrew Tsai's videos (while enhancing Batocera Linux & playing around w RetroBat for Windows)! truly impressed w M1 performance & the jump to the M4 & beyond is something I look forward to & feels great not to be in a rush! 🕹️
Wonderful video ❤
Yeah nah no need arm chips. Imma stick to my beautiful team red running on debian kernel
Thanks for the content. Enjoyed and subscribed.
I love Macs but never made it to the M series. Reason I came back to windows is because I’ll always need windows OS for my work (boring data work) and getting a Mac means I have to double or triple the RAM as I would lose half running parallels (2 OS systems ran at the same time).
So while I accept Apple is now next level. It’s cheaper for me to get a Surface with 16GB RAM allocated fully to windows than a 32GB RAM Mac to split the RAM and on top pay for Paralells subscription. Snapdragon chips have me that efficiency that I craved. I don’t need major graphics grunt.
The spare money can go to an iPad to do my modest media work (basically just photo edits). 👍🏾
4:35 on the surface these new laptops...I see what you did there 😅
It's a shame Qualcomm is dropping the ball so hard when it comes to being the steward of Windows on ARM.
I will keep using a Mac because of its integration across all my devices, phone, pad and watch that just works.
You’re comparing a 2021 laptop with 2024 laptops and still it outperforms only most of the tasks, I have an M1 Max as well and I love it, I feel it still incredibly fast and responsive, but the new M4 macs are somehow up to 4 times faster specially on gpu tasks like rendering, no laptop with Qualcomm has ray tracing dedicated hardware and the laptops that have it with windows are huge, horrible and they must be plugged in all the time to get the full performance something that makes no sense in a laptop. I recognize that right now Nvidia has the best gpu’s and for my work as architect they are the best option, that’s why I built myself a desktop pc with high end components like a 13700K and a 4080 but still my MacBook is my favorite tools for most of the things I do like 3D modeling, documentation etc. I use my Pc just for rendering the projects I make on my MacBook, probably with an M4 or M5 the pc won’t be needed anymore, I’ll most certainly get the M5 max next year.
Forget snapdragon, you want the samsung lunar lake for general laptop use
Whilst having a macbook pro for personal use, truly I have found it limiting.My productivity is way higher on my windows machines at work.. If they can optimise their hardware and os, I'm.100% going back.
When are you going to compare them to M4 Macs?
I think @TechLens main complaint is the power drain on Windows laptops. Some people may find this surprising but not everyone needs the latest and the greatest. Stuff just needs to be good enough, and even 5 year old laptops are powerful for most people's needs so long as they are not too heavy and the battery lasts long enough.
Those doing in multimedia related tasks like graphics and video editing and games are the ones the latest and greatest machines matter to. That being said if you are in the market for new laptop, you might as well buy that is lightest and lasts longest on a charge, and that is still the Apple laptop, so long as it runs the software you want.
Microsoft will never have the User Interface, app options, and smooth and gratifying visual design in software and hardware design.
Liked and subbed when I heard "Dragon-sized elephant"! 😅
M2 & M3 releases were a "meh" but M4 is huge leap from M1. The base M4 SoC's are stellar. Test against them. My money is on Apple...by a wide margin.
MacBooks & PC’s aren’t in competition even with these efficient chips each platform has it’s customers.
Apple follows through and improves things. Microsoft drops support at the drop of the hat. Which company do you feel makes sense to invest in?
I never understood the standby issue.. just turn off the notebook when you are not using it... modern PCs take seconds to turn on anyways.
Thanks a lot for the Windows-laptop vs Apple ones
Left Mac 23 years ago because OSX was trash, and Windows wasn't that bad anymore and their machines were half the price with a lot more power. Now, I'm going back to Mac because the Windows OS has gotten almost unusable. Also, it doesn't hurt Macs are back to using Arm Chips again.
You forgot the constant update and how there’s tons of different updates instead of all into one for the operating system.
Thanks for the deep insight. Cheers
My most intensive app is for orchestral music production. Cubase Pro using a multichannel external ASIO capable sound and MIDI interface, multiple VST music plugins and VEP Pro to manage the plugins, requires both a powerful multicore CPU and LOTS of RAM. My most recent desktop build included 128GB or RAM. Yet to see any laptop that comes close to the specs needed. I did try using laptops for music production but kept hitting that RAM ceiling.
MSI 18” Titan and Raider take up to 192GB. Clevo’s 17” goes up to 96GB. The Clevo is notable in that it draws higher power and outperforms, but its battery life likely sucks… and it’s 7.5 lbs. The MSIs are a bit less heavy.
@@ScottBasu About time! Thanks for the latest info.
@ as best as I can tell, these are the only two PC laptop manufacturers supporting higher than 64GB from the factory. There could be others out there, in particular Chinese laptops, but I’m not personally interested in those and would not know about them.
@TechLens, you can figure out the total size of multiple files in macOS when you press command+option and I
Windows doesn't block you from doing customization from the registry or the resources folder in %windir%
windows has nothing but performance and efficiency tho
macbooks have a whole apple ecosystem which many ppl actually like whilst also having reliable performance and battery and its all backed up by probably the best engineers in the world.
The highly portable USB Type C 140 watt laptop chargers might also complicate your needs calculation.
The main reason people are leaving Windows is because Microsoft is pushing us to a bad Windows 11 OS (not mention screwing our perfectly good older machines). Apple Arm Chips are just the icing on the cake.
So there's a use for the raspberry pi 5 now. As confirm watching it drive an RTX 4090 with a caveat...
ah... the GPU *is* the computer!
never having to think about a single driver in 20 years, priceless.
my solution to all this is to use them all - i use Android, iPadOS, macOS, Linux, Windows, Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Edge, M1, x86 to mix it up & keep myself from getting pigeonholed (or tunnelvisioned) & appreciate the best of all worlds. To creating access to an integrated & diverse world y'all! 🌏
These new laptops are going to look great on the shelf next to the Surface, Windows Phone, and Zune.
Good review excellent
20%+ while you sleep … yet corporates still bulk buy them.
here a quick tip(and yes don't just enter this if you haven't done the research) on terminal type shutdwon /h and this will force the deep sleep hibernation mode that was on windows before it went to sh*. THis will also work on handhelds like legion go, alley/s/x, any windows based with a battery, The boot up isn't bad either not instant, but this works so well. I put my handhelds to deep sleep each time and it takes 7sec to boot back up no more battery drain.
Honestly the m4 pro is a different beast to anything available and with it being backed up by the Apple ecosystem I don’t think anything competes especially with everything it can do without needing dongles , cables and apps. The Magic Keyboard and Mouse is magic once you realize you can control multiple devices at once without needing to press a toggle switch. Files is a free Dropbox install on your devices that you can access anywhere . You have all your files in one place. The m4 pro does way better than the m1 pro. I see the flaws but the benefits surpass the cons for me. And with me just having one thunderbolt to connect to a monitor or dock to connect two monitors and ssd,micro sd. Just works. Plus the iPhone as a webcam is better than anything on the market. For work and daily life Apple is the way to go. Also the watch can unlock all your devices. And AirPods can be easily used by any Apple device without needing to disconnect and paired again. Way more things I can say about Apple that does way better than anything on the market.
Surface Laptop 7 is the way to go!!!!
Why is he comparing this with M1 chip? There’s M4 already, probably outperforming all of them…
What tablet stand did you get?
I also want to know
i thaught you were DanTDM for a seccond 💀
Years ago, i stopped using computers ie laptops and towers.
Switched to ipad and never looked back. It does everything I need.
And if i absolutely need a laptop, i can just buy a keyboard case for my ipad or one plus pad and use them.
Awesome video
Hey what happened to the GTX 285 project you said you were working on ? any update on that ?
Update ur Mac bro, looks like it's still on Monterey, Sequoia came out a few months ago
yes - it has proven to be a *much* smoother experience too.
They still needs couple years for software are made for ARM on Windows.
You start “Three years ago, I switched to a MacBook”, but your videos for the last 3 years are 99% about Windows-based hardware. That’s not a switch. That’s a pose.
It’s really too bad that you had no clue of all the features that Mac has that makes you much more efficient and getting jobs done
Relax fanboy. I have M3 Max Pro and Windows Desktop. I've customized both of them to be very efficient with my work, so stop being a noob like Mac wanna be talking about the OS. If you know or willing to learn you will customize system for your needs regardless the OS.
@@ManoManovWell said!
@@ManoManov Logic 👍🏾👍🏾
So you can’t tally your folder sizes? Hmmm…I’ve been a hard core computer user since the earliest days and I’ve never had to do that. Yes, opening all windows to tally totals. 99.99% of users will never need that. What they need is smooth, intuitive, operations.. Here’s the gist of all the “Windows is back, baby” baby:” Caveats. Love to know which mainstream programs are paid on Mac OS that are free on Windows. I’m guessing most users don’t use those apps.
I don't use sleep on Windows 11. Shutdown and startup are really fast.
not the experience I had on a ROG Ally & Legion Go - while handheld PC gaming was truly inspiring - Windows is their downfall - it was getting stuck on boot & shutdown all the time & this was a 1 or 2 week old install.
@udance4ever Remove any SD cards from ROG Ally. Sandisk are the worst offenders.
I use M3 Max with parallels for windows ! Works wonderful for me.
You can get that for free now with VMWare Fusion Pro (for personal use; there's still commercial licenses available). I tried Win11 and Debian and both work flawlessly (on an M3 Pro). I can even play my Steam games on Win11 in there as long as they are not too demanding.
The only Microsoft product I would purchase is an Xbox. I'm not interested in their Windows , windows 365, or recall nightmare. I'll stick to a standard PC running Linux and maybe a mac ..maybe lol.
I guess you want to be controversial. Dev work is best done on Unix systems (Linux/macOS). Content creation, macOS. Gaming is the only Windows advantage but both Linux and macOS are catching up.
Carry your Windows laptop in your backpack without 100% confidence that It is totally shut down, and you can finish with a toasted dead laptop or damaged for life. It still has an Nvidia GPU, which is still a huge energy consumer, and vents are closed. Good luck.
It is more about OS choice… Not battery or hardware…
It literally is battery and hardware, OS is important but these 2 are more important
+1 on batt & hw. returned two handheld PCs I was evaluating because the battery just didn't cut it. that said, Windoze is still an abomination & this is coming from someone who got along w WinXP after using UN*X workstations & the original Macs for 4 years in college. amazing what Apple hardware & software is today!
are we gonna talk about the fact he did not mention te gpu once
If you love windows you love windows but most Mac users do not care what windows comes up with/has to offer, Mac users are so far into the ecosystem, u can’t easily switch, there end to end system is like 20 years ahead. Mac made more sense even before the chip change, arm was just the icing on the cake
Microsoft had plenty of time to refine & create an ecosystem - they just didn't care. I always laugh when I'm in Windows & an interface straight from WinXP or Win2k comes up - that is straight up legacy & fear of change which stiffles innovation!
"all the reasons Macs are being great, but now running Windows" 🤣
My dear, I switched to a Mac, in spite of the bad-ish price because I wanted to avoid running Windows for when I needed apps that don't run on Linux. It helped that the ARM-based Macs actually have a decent price-performance ratio (and I include the screen and physical build to the calculation) and that if you want to avoid the absolute pain and mess that Windows is, it's the only real solution. I still prefer Linux, but it's a compromise I was willing to make.
What tablet stand are you using?
Need Refresh button in Finder/File manager in Mac desperately.
Many times OneDrive or other online change do not reflect in the device immediately.
Just give a frikin Refresh button, don't be so egoistic Apple, just copy this feature. 🙏
The problem with windows is windows.
I think cpu performance isnt the point anymore. Choose the operating system you prefer and find a laptop that fits your needs. In my opinion M series Macbooks are still unmatched especially since the base models have at least 16 gb ram. If you compare chips from the same generations the only reason to buy a Windows Laptop might be the OS. Build quality, gpu performance, noise emmission… abailability of native software, everything is better on Mac. 🤷🏼♂️
But isn’t windows 11 alone enough for u to make the jump to Mac?🤔
lol Win7 was enough for me 😅
I'm not a fan of MacOS I also hated Win 11 till the recent update. I was so close to purchase the iPad m4 mainly for the battery life and performance for on the go editing. I ended up going with the Surface Pro 11 LCD because I didn't wanna pay $500 for 1tb SSD the same reason why I'm not buying the new Mac Mini 256ssd for $599 512 for $200 more smh. 2tb added to surface pro for less than $150
I have never heard anyone else say what you have said about the OS in macbookOS compared to OS in windows...as I have had to learn another way to think and go through apple OS's on macbook, ipad, and iphone and painfully have to guide my friends and family over many years through ups and downs of apple verses windows pros and cons.
As I said in 2020...it will be less than 5 years when windows catches up and probably surpass apple silicon...that is now coming true in 2024 on a hardware side...
As I deal more with multi media than data or programming, my preference and work flow is more affected by multi media programs performance...so native arm based programs written for arm have a massive performance advantage. As I use linux, windows and mac I can really understand what you are talking about here in this video. I have lived the difference of a workflow on all 3 OS.
There is no OS that does everything well and never will be, due to personal preference and the next advancement in tech that could make what you use now less functional for your work flow over something else that works better, hard ware or software preferably both being better...
That is why I like your video over the vast majority of other videos as I don't see sides one being always being better than another...as this will always change as big tech wants you to keep buying new products...what you are prepared to put up with or use better is more important than anything else over brands or loyalty.
I had a Sony Vaio with an ARM processor and Vista, its that long ago, and it sucked. Even after upgrading bot OS and memory the performance was lagging. So for me ARM was the processor to avoid. Of course that was the smallest possible test set, an accidental experience from one person, but thats how most things work for individuals I think. To hear now that ARM is the best option for Windows laptops is eye opening on many levels!
I don't think apple should be that worried about arm on windows. You might prefer windows, but as someone who uses both machines, I prefer mac os by a large margin. I'm not a fanboy, I just use what I like and what I think is good, and I have windows and ios and mac and android machines and I keep coming back to mac os because everything just works like I want it to. It's all very easy to use. Gaming is the only benefit windows has to me, and that's not even true of these arm devices. And while YOU may prefer windows, there's a growing dissatisfaction with windows both online and in the sales numbers, and that didn't just come from hardware. Macs always had a strong following and a dedicated user base, even when their hardware sucked ass, so as long as their hardware is competitive, that will keep them in the game. Sure, having such a monopoly on quality hardware for nearly half a decade definitely switched some people over from windows, I also know that lots of the people who switched over will just stick with macs, because they prefer the operating system. Most people don't share your experience with windows being better, a lot of them sludge through it for gaming compatibility or specific software needs. Just because Mac hardware isn't the boon for apple like it used to be doesn't mean apple will be struggling as a company, or that macs will be struggling with sales.
What’s the name of that tablet stand shown on the air ✈️ .
Do your glasses have lenses? I don’t think they do.
Both Microsoft and Apple products can go to hell because of the price….!
re Battery drain while sleeping: very strange, I've had numerous Windows PC and have never suffered from this. Plus you can always turn on auto-hibernation to have ZERO drain. Resume from hibernation will take you 10 seconds max (a negligeable time in one's life, I'm sure you'll agree)