Depends honestly. If they find new supply then discard you they will not contact or hoover unless that supply falls through. If the narc is discarded before they had a chance to get backup they will stalk obsess an go absolutely crazy. Narcs don't care who their supply is as long as they have something. They are petrified of being alone with themselves. They need somebody or anybody to keep them distracted from facing the reality of what they really are. Which in most cases is a world class piece of shit.
Who ever you are, I had a mouth full of coke whilst reading your comment. Your last statement was so hilarious, I had coke coming out of my nose, I almost choked!! Bad ass!!
HONEST NO, They don't Care, they really don't care about themselves, however, they are selfish and self-absorbed, but that's not TRUE LOVE. They"Care" about what they can get FROM you, however, they, are the ones, with the SERIOUS ISSUES.🤗
The bottom line is it is about loving yourself more. RESPECTING yourself because the narcissist won't since he does not respect his own self. Move on for good and never look back!
Every time he opened his mouth lies, lies, and more lies. I ghosted him 3 months no contact. I let my guard down 3 weeks ago. So now he's ghosting me. Initially I was upset. These videos are reinforcement that I wasn't crazy, the triangulation was real and the gaslighting was his way of controlling a false narrative. Each day the fog is lifting. I'm back to no contact, this time forever!!!
No they don't care...they just go to the next, no contact is something to help YOU heal from them , it's no way to really punish the narc..because you are not playing on the same field
You're Absolutely right. Mine said the same thing. I will say exactly how he said it " You're not going to leave me are you." Said it when he thought he was losing Control. Then when he knew for sure he lost the Control that's when he discard me. It took me by surprise. I'm not a glutton for punishment I will never go back to him. He did me a Big favor. I have the understanding of my True friends what he did to me was so messed up.😣☺ Your advise is Correct Run Don't walk.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍
My ex Narc always say she has Her own lawyer and gets in trouble for no reason. She did not want me To know Her friends...Discards me THEN blâmés me...Lawyer did not exist. Great job brother...keep up the good work.
Whatbis it with them and their lawyers. Mine always talked about getting lawyers to get back at people whom he thought were against him or out to get him. Childish and irresponsible brats
There is some satisfaction knowing that by us healing and hopefully having gotten rid of them that feel some level of pain but that was not my intention It was also very painful for me to go no contact but I am finding it’s the only way to truly move on and heal from these highly toxic individuals. No contact felt very out of character for me Setting boundaries has always been difficult for me also. The has made me find strength I never knew I had. I always prided myself on being a strong woman with a strong mind and good core values but I was only scratching the surface. I had to meet the narc yo push me to my most extreme limits so I can heal from not only the abuse he inflicted but years of trauma and abuse from others going all the way back to childhood. I often think They are sent to battle and destroy as many good souls as the can. Like a real battle between good and evil. They are far beyond disordered and the fact that they all seem to be cut from the same cloth is as interesting as it is baffling. How is it that they all operate the same way? They are all full of only negative emotions They are dark beings with no light of their own. Only the strong will pull themselves out become the beautiful light beings they are meant to be. Sorry for sounding a little hokie but like seriously wtf? Lol! F’ing narc freaks... smh
They all operate the same way because we are one. One Spirit, One Mind, One Being. Narcissism is a possibility for all of us, it's just deep, deep, insecurity. A truly fearful person. They display "Insane-Not-Enoughness." When I dated my first narcissus (3 total), I had no idea what I was in for. I was always working on myself Spiritually, so I was trying to use unconditional love, not realizing that I was dealing with a person with no empathy. His games got so bad, and I knew that if I played them that I'd be in jeopardy of forfeiting my Spiritual growth to lower myself, so I continued, but when the sad pain turned to anger, I started playing back and looked around one day and realized that I was actually becoming him. That was devastating, all my self-work, destroyed.. But, little did I know, he was a blessing. I think my deep desire to be the greatest me that I can be, called in this experience of this narcissist. Experiencing him taught me so much about my own self-worth and really my self-love. He was never the problem, I was. I stayed to take his bullshit, and without coming to that conclusion in the healing process, I could not heal. Before him, I thought that I loved myself, but dealing with him made it undeniable to me that I lacked self-love. I had also not known what an approval-junkie I was. He was actually a Spiritual experience, because Spirituality is all about self-love. Anyway, that guy opened up to me a lot and told me about his deep insecurities. We both knew that he was sick, and, we are still friends to this day. He also, still apologizes to this day and appreciates my ear when needs to talk, only seldom though. Still, as nice as he is to me now, I can tell by his venting about his wife, at times, that she caught the bullet that I dodged. He is still at it. I listen to him, and he probably thinks that I am identifying with his point of view, but I'm usually laughing to myself that he will never change. I dated him over 15 years ago. Anyway, he's not evil. He is clinically insecure and vindictive. I don't waste my time hating him, he's mentally sick and he knows it. Narcissists are miserable people. Still, I am here now, watching videos, because I've been dealing with a new narcissus recently, my third, and he was very slick, he operated by showing his true self very slowly. I kept seeing red flags but he knew not to play with me much too often because I was very adamant about not taking mistreatment and making him leave my house until he came correct. So, it took me a while to figure out that he was definitely a narcissus. Now, even though I'm OK, I'm here to identify with people to reinforce that I am not alone in having fallen for the banana in the tailpipe again. I'm here so that I can stop attracting them. But the most interesting thing that I've learned is this "narcissus" word. I've used that word to joke with friends, but I never realized that it was defining THESE types of people. I had named them "The Clinically-Insecure" in my own mind. All that to say, if I had kept playing and stayed, I might have become a narcissus myself. All that pain and bitterness? He would have infected me. He would have "won" for real. Narcissism can be infectious if you don't don't get out in time. I'm sure that some narcissists can claim having had a hand in helping to develop a new narcissus.
Lisa Collins we are in the same boat. Started my NC. Slipped a bit and made contact just to hear what he had to say but watching these videos helps you to stay on the right path which is far away from them. Dont make the same mistakes I've made and taken him back so many times. Every time hes come back worse than before. The pressure it puts on your health is not worth staying with these toxic people. Goodluck. The sun will come out just keep strong
@@angypapa2191 thanx for the encouragement. I guess I am only attracted to narcissist s because this is the second narc I have been involved with. Healthy men are usually already taken and narcissists have many woman at the same time. Stay strong girl and don't settle for anything other than a healthy man. Good luck
Mine ghosted me then tried To come back 2 months later I rejected the Hoover and sent a video On way the narcissist disappears I went no contact I have not heard from since After the ghosting The narc and there best friend ex lover Showed up at a party were they new I would be I believe they came to see what kind of shape I was in I spoke to the friend and acted Like the narc was not there
Thank you I enjoy listening to you & your positivity. This is a very in depth kind of abuse that people don't understand unless they themselves went through it . ...Short story , I did the final discard it's a month into no contact and the healing process . It's hard but I'm fighting! Thank you again I'm glad I discovered this video and now subscribed to your channel 👍 much love & respect , Michele from Staten Island ❤️
Great info. He randomly became scarce after I dropped the love bomb on month 7. He suddenly dropped me at weekends stopped investing time and fun with me, I went no contact after he ignored me, I went no contact for 2 weeks, he came back and seemed really sorry... But it got worse.. This is hard to hear but absolutely true I’ve learnt it’s ACTIONS not WORDS are what count. They give you lots of nice words / sentences that make you feel great but deep down you know that you know something is properly OFF! I was a gullible idiot at the disregard stage I hardly saw him but his words and promises where bait.
Same here, @Huda 218, I was "too affectionate." wtf? However, in the beginning days, he was all over me like an octopus who hadn't eaten in a week. lol
It's very rare that the people that once knew the narc gravitated towards you..Narcs have no mercy on their smear campaign usually do a good job in getting everyone to believe their lies about you and how horrible you were all the bad things you did🤣 their telling on themselves ,but making it out to be you... these things are not human their demonic. 8years of hell...3 year's of healing and growing.
You look and sound just like my primos lol thank you carnal! I relate to your story so much, practically identical! I love your message, thank you! Keep it up, spread the word!
This is true but if you create a narcissist injury best believe even if they say they move on they don’t really move on they will get revenge on you the sneaky way they still watch you so be very careful with this kind of people..
It’s a shit feeling realizing I am an object to a narc and she believes she can use me whenever she wants.. at least I understand now why she is back and fort in my life.. I wish never met her
These talks are awesome. The healing process has been smooth so far. Ive been no contact for 3 weeks now. My ex Narc discarded me after a series of events in her life, then covid-19 came. So, the quarantine was rough at 1st, but is mkg. The healing better. I have no choice but build myself. Thanks
A former narc discarded me back in December 2017. It was the third and last time, because I let it be. He tried following me on Instagram lol, I signed up but never used it. So I blocked him there and on my former fb page. This idiot had the nerve to show up on my door step July 2018. I had just started back working again. I told him never to come back and threaten to call the police with my phone in hand. LMAO haven't seen him since, the audacity of these assholes. With the hatred I have for narcs and this particular one, especially when it showed up. I certainly would have went to jail. Besides that random pop up, it's been 3 years no contact.
The end reminds me of something she said when she found a new job (again), that was still during the love-bombing phase. She said: "Every woman look at me funny here" I asked why and she said: "Because I am beautiful". That was one of the first in the long list of "wtf?" moments to come.
"I'LL f myself over just to prove a point" Me: uh well look at all the bs you'd have to deal with afterwards Her: "I don't care" Wow... They'll actually bend themselves just to get a point across..
So true. I did expose my ex went super Nova on him in March. I worked with him and he hoovered by coming by my desk to check on me. I left my job in May and he wanted to be friends....funny how he told me that he hasn't been himself the past few months and that he goes to work, goes home and doesn't feel like eating just be in a corner curled up.....I don't know whether to believe him or not...I know they lie all the time . I do believe I caused a narc injury and yes they care when they lose control..it's all about the control. Congrats on leaving and all your success!! Right now I'm working on myself and figuring out my next but I feel good!
You said, "I don't know whether to believe him or not". I can answer that question. Never believe him or any narc. They are all pathological liars. All the pity parties he pulls on you is a technique to play the victim to gain your sympathy and hoover you back in. Don't fall for it. He probably feels like shit. But that is because his supply has escaped. He doesn't care about you, he only cares about his supply. Remain steadfast and don't break no contact. Hope I don't sounding too preachy.
Best bet is to block his number, delete all social media connection from him and act like you never met him. They are sick puppies, they put all effort into getting you back for control than to get you back because they love you (which they dont, they're like zombies void of true emotions)
Here's my story, after a week of NC w/ my narcissistic ex, he suddenly called me telling me how much he miss me and all those stuff, giving me hope that he wants us to be better for our future relationship, so I agreed and I was also still hopeful for it. But guess what happen the next day? He invited her so called "Broken Hearted friend" into their house just for a reason that He just wants to help her since that girl Is suicidal. And just up for work. lIke wtf? And then I've gone crazy as heck, I was always calling him the next day and the other days just to let him know that what He did was wrong. I really gone monster and feeling so hopeless since I still love him and what he did is really traumatizing. But I ended up just being the bad person because he told me I was harassing the girl and Him. I'm moving on from this one. I hope we will all recover soon. Please don't ignore the red flags. We deserve better. ❤️
Going through this ghosting right now. Blocked every possible spots to where there is no contact. But I feel like he's testing me to see if I'm going to break and give in. Like I need or miss him. Constantly testing me , telling me the plan,follow his ORDERS.... so over it
Mine hoovered for the same reason as I witnessed me move on and actually I don't need it. I had no ego hurt for its discard as once its mask was off, I wish it would rejected me forever. It wanna make me love it, because of its fake ego but the fact is the more you are around those people, the more you feel they are very disgusting.
Thank you I so relate to your life story been descarted 3 times and she returned 2 and on the last descart I asked her a stupid question if she loves me
I've been NC for 2 months now & I ran into the ex Narc this morning in our small town grocery store. Talk about tucking his tail between his legs & running! Funny how before Christmas when h eff had NS he wanted to be right in my face! Cowards...just cowards!
Man you don’t know how much this to me seriously, and I don’t know why I think you are talking about someone I know but I am in Eau and you are in the sate
14:13 "...they can never love anymore, because they've given you al - GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE..YEAH, THEY CARE..." Best part of this clip brother! I had to listen like 10 times fucking hysterical!
I'm three months in no contact. He actually came back to hoover me after he saw that Im doing better, meeting new people etc, texting me that he can't believe that I stopped caring about him haha. After I rejected the Hoover, he started sending me pics of him going on dates with a new girl, which is their triangulation game but hurt me anyways. I know there is no future for us but I'll wake up depressed because I know that he doesn't give a shit. I'm hoping this pain is going to go away quickly
@April Rosé I did block him but he will create new accounts to send me that kind of bullshit. I was upset for a couple of days but I'm feeling better now, he's such a piece of shit
it will, mine did the hoover and he went silent I blocked him and deleted, now he is trying to track my where abouts on my cell phone, ...he's silent for now, but I know he's gonna show up he hates to lose, and he never could control me
yes I am valuable..I carry his car insurance and pay for it because he cant get it and I have the season tickets for our favorite NFL team. So yes, you are damn right Im valuable and bet at this very second as I type this, as he lays in bed throughout the night in his new abode he moved too a few weeks ago 6 hrs away, thinking about what he will not have in 2021..oh well I tried to give him love he never had even knowing what I know, and it wasnt good enough. So I need to now do damage control..again.. and try to move on again..
wondering if my narcissist really knows how to strategize his actions cause he's slow. not being funny but I was really wondering if this man really knew and was he doing things in order and are aware of the patterns as narcissist do? Was he this intelligent to purposely strategize? Also he told people that im the ones who left him. NOT TRUE. he actually was mad at me cause i told people what really happened which he disguarde me and YELLED I WANT TO BE SINGLE! he asked why am I telling people our business. So does he really think this is how the break up ended? he even told me that I left him. I was in shock because I do know that he has an anti personality disorder that he was diagnosed with (on prison) I use to pop up at his place and he would avoid me. I swear he was running and hiding fr me. all I wanted was closure and a reason. Its been 6 months and still no answer. Also he blocked me on social media and 1 month later I noticed he unblocked me. he doesnt have a new supply . well let me rephrasE that. If he has a new supply, he damn sure ain't making it public. in his case, he didny leave for another woman. he hangs out clubbing going on dating sites not working and just looking like a damn fool. threw away a good one just to be single with no goals. I watch these videos everyday trying to figure him out cause I could never treat someone like me this way. He even told a mutual friend that he wouldn't go to a party he was invited to if I was going to be there. So its strange that he seems scared of me or avoids me. im thinking because Im a very social person and he couldn't be himself. and perpetuate with his mask if I were there. I think he's uncomfortable that I could be myself and he couldnt
if he's antisocial personality disorder diagnosed, you were with a sociopath. He's being manipulative. Also as a narcissistic person, he cannot admit defeat to others. he had to look like the winner. You don't have to be intelligent to be manipulative and be successful at it. they've been doing it their whole lives. that's all they know. Be happy you're no longer with him and just move forward. you know who really won 😉
How does she keep hoovering you, texting and calling you if you have gone no contact??? I.e i presume you have blocked her on all devices and all media.
He’s currently making his new supply into me? Posted pictures then made her make her profile private after he saw my glow up? How would I know if I was a grade A supply
It's been a year and five months since I went no contact. I know exactly what he is and what he did to me. But I still miss "him". It's horrible to miss someone that you know doesn't exist. I pray to God I stop thinking of him at some point soon.
yes they care...but for the wrong reasons..they want to control you and their supply is NO good it cant match yours, or supply is running very low... lol mine is trying to track me on my cell phone after NC, hoover and his silent treatment...leave me alone!!!
Yeahh.. they like to go out put on a show for everyone to look at them and then they will say you jealous. I so glade i know the truth eh, thank god for youtube and the internet. And when u discard them its you that hurt them they will tell u the most vilest thing and they will never apologize for that exact statement they made about you they will beat around the bush like : sorry i put u on the spot or sorry u feel that way but never a authentic apology and even tho finally do.. the apology is Nonchalant
Does these people ever get help maybe something traumatic happen to them that cause them to behave the way they do you know like some child hood trauma maybe they need help maybe it's s some kind of mental issue cause mental illness comes in different shapes and forms that's my thoughts on the issue who knows I could be wrong all I know is they are human with flaws.
They are VERY well aware that their behavior is bad. And they have full control of their behavior. That's why the moment they are either exposed or at risk of losing supply, they change their behavior to best suite their needs. there's no excuse for the abuse they cause. They often don't get help because they don't think abbreviated is wrong and most likely they don't care.
When someone you cut off keeps trying to come in your life acting like nothing happened what do you do? They come up to you all smiles how are you .They ask you what the time is and if it’s going to rain and you kind of feel bad not answering.Should you answer? It seems like you just forget the fact that you want to cut them off especially when they ask you around other people because you look bad in front of them when you ignore them.But you know this person is wicked and you want nothing to do with them.I feel bad.Thoughts??!?
Keep reminding yourself of this person's wicked ways and go completely no contact. These people will find any means necessary to get back into your life. forget about em. And don't feel bad. You're not responsible for anyone else's state of being or mood. Let them rot by themselves. You got this! 🤜🤛
JC DEZMEN thank you so much for your input. But you know one thing that has me confused is how does it work for a narc to get back into your life. If you already know they are a narc then it won’t ever be like the first time when you were absolutely clueless? If you accidentally reply to a Hoover attempt then how will it go? Will a person just pretend like what happened never happened and then when something else happens they right back to fighting with this narc? But if you know observe don’t react now and you didn’t before can a person be truly hoovered back once they have the knowledge? How does that work? I can just imagine when you give the narc an inch they take a mile. When you respond to one thing they just keep coming at you. Thank you so much for your time 🙏
Narcs are completely delusional. YOU just have to focus on you. Narcs will use any excuse to Hoover you. They will also act as if nothing ever happened. It doesn't matter what you know. They only care about getting the supply. Don't worry about that. Just cut them out, heal and live a great life without them.
All they do is go back to their exes and talk crap about you. They deserve each other
Shanna, I love the way you, think. there's no doubt in my mind that's exactly what they do.
Depends honestly. If they find new supply then discard you they will not contact or hoover unless that supply falls through. If the narc is discarded before they had a chance to get backup they will stalk obsess an go absolutely crazy. Narcs don't care who their supply is as long as they have something. They are petrified of being alone with themselves. They need somebody or anybody to keep them distracted from facing the reality of what they really are. Which in most cases is a world class piece of shit.
Facts.
Oh yes love this explanation excactley the truth, it can be anybody their not fussy, but us we have morals and standards 😊
True fact
Hmm
Who ever you are, I had a mouth full of coke whilst reading your comment. Your last statement was so hilarious, I had coke coming out of my nose, I almost choked!! Bad ass!!
My Father said it Like God gives Us People to Love and things to use Not People To USE and things to LOVE.
Very well said
Awesome quote.
HONEST NO, They don't Care, they really don't care about themselves, however, they are selfish and self-absorbed, but that's not TRUE LOVE. They"Care" about what they can get FROM you, however, they, are the ones, with the SERIOUS ISSUES.🤗
The bottom line is it is about loving yourself more. RESPECTING yourself because the narcissist won't since he does not respect his own self. Move on for good and never look back!
Every time he opened his mouth lies, lies, and more lies. I ghosted him 3 months no contact. I let my guard down 3 weeks ago. So now he's ghosting me. Initially I was upset. These videos are reinforcement that I wasn't crazy, the triangulation was real and the gaslighting was his way of controlling a false narrative. Each day the fog is lifting. I'm back to no contact, this time forever!!!
Try as much as you can to NEVER go back! It gets worse everytime because that's the actual invitation for them TO treat you bad.....again!
Dump the chump/STAY NO CONTACTX
Awesome:)
I've fallen off the narc wagon a few times. No more!
They want to experience exploiting you!!!
I don't think they care, they're going to forget the next day filled with the fake happiness of another supply.
narcs don't forget shit lol. trust me on that. they don't care for you. they care for their broken ego and image
They definitely care. Mine has moved on with the new supply but still creating fake FB accounts to try to Hoover me!
No they don't care...they just go to the next, no contact is something to help YOU heal from them , it's no way to really punish the narc..because you are not playing on the same field
Someone wrote a comment wondering about asking the narc to show her the zipper to his meat suit.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Famous words of narc: "I need you"!
Run! Don't walk...
Run fast and run far away
You're Absolutely right. Mine said the same thing. I will say exactly how he said it " You're not going to leave me are you." Said it when he thought he was losing Control. Then when he knew for sure he lost the Control that's when he discard me. It took me by surprise. I'm not a glutton for punishment I will never go back to him. He did me a Big favor. I have the understanding of my True friends what he did to me was so messed up.😣☺ Your advise is Correct Run Don't walk.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍
She said that to me 😮
Thats what my ex narc said to me..smdh
I called my ex out on the narcissism during the breakup. I’m sure I’ll never hear from her again since she is now exposed
My ex Narc always say she has Her own lawyer and gets in trouble for no reason. She did not want me To know Her friends...Discards me THEN blâmés me...Lawyer did not exist. Great job brother...keep up the good work.
Whatbis it with them and their lawyers. Mine always talked about getting lawyers to get back at people whom he thought were against him or out to get him. Childish and irresponsible brats
There is some satisfaction knowing that by us healing and hopefully having gotten rid of them that feel some level of pain but that was not my intention
It was also very painful for me to go no contact but I am finding it’s the only way to truly move on and heal from these highly toxic individuals.
No contact felt very out of character for me
Setting boundaries has always been difficult for me also.
The has made me find strength I never knew I had.
I always prided myself on being a strong woman with a strong mind and good core values but I was only scratching the surface.
I had to meet the narc yo push me to my most extreme limits so I can heal from not only the abuse he inflicted but years of trauma and abuse from others going all the way back to childhood.
I often think They are sent to battle and destroy as many good souls as the can. Like a real battle between good and evil. They are far beyond disordered and the fact that they all seem to be cut from the same cloth is as interesting as it is baffling. How is it that they all operate the same way?
They are all full of only negative emotions
They are dark beings with no light of their own.
Only the strong will pull themselves out become the beautiful light beings they are meant to be.
Sorry for sounding a little hokie but like seriously wtf?
Lol!
F’ing narc freaks... smh
They were sent by their father Satan The Devil the very 1st narcissist! We are definitely battling Evil because they know we're Good people
They all operate the same way because we are one. One Spirit, One Mind, One Being.
Narcissism is a possibility for all of us, it's just deep, deep, insecurity. A truly fearful person. They display "Insane-Not-Enoughness."
When I dated my first narcissus (3 total), I had no idea what I was in for. I was always working on myself Spiritually, so I was trying to use unconditional love, not realizing that I was dealing with a person with no empathy. His games got so bad, and I knew that if I played them that I'd be in jeopardy of forfeiting my Spiritual growth to lower myself, so I continued, but when the sad pain turned to anger, I started playing back and looked around one day and realized that I was actually becoming him. That was devastating, all my self-work, destroyed..
But, little did I know, he was a blessing. I think my deep desire to be the greatest me that I can be, called in this experience of this narcissist. Experiencing him taught me so much about my own self-worth and really my self-love. He was never the problem, I was. I stayed to take his bullshit, and without coming to that conclusion in the healing process, I could not heal. Before him, I thought that I loved myself, but dealing with him made it undeniable to me that I lacked self-love. I had also not known what an approval-junkie I was. He was actually a Spiritual experience, because Spirituality is all about self-love.
Anyway, that guy opened up to me a lot and told me about his deep insecurities. We both knew that he was sick, and, we are still friends to this day. He also, still apologizes to this day and appreciates my ear when needs to talk, only seldom though. Still, as nice as he is to me now, I can tell by his venting about his wife, at times, that she caught the bullet that I dodged. He is still at it. I listen to him, and he probably thinks that I am identifying with his point of view, but I'm usually laughing to myself that he will never change. I dated him over 15 years ago.
Anyway, he's not evil. He is clinically insecure and vindictive. I don't waste my time hating him, he's mentally sick and he knows it.
Narcissists are miserable people.
Still, I am here now, watching videos, because I've been dealing with a new narcissus recently, my third, and he was very slick, he operated by showing his true self very slowly. I kept seeing red flags but he knew not to play with me much too often because I was very adamant about not taking mistreatment and making him leave my house until he came correct. So, it took me a while to figure out that he was definitely a narcissus.
Now, even though I'm OK, I'm here to identify with people to reinforce that I am not alone in having fallen for the banana in the tailpipe again. I'm here so that I can stop attracting them. But the most interesting thing that I've learned is this "narcissus" word. I've used that word to joke with friends, but I never realized that it was defining THESE types of people. I had named them "The Clinically-Insecure" in my own mind.
All that to say, if I had kept playing and stayed, I might have become a narcissus myself. All that pain and bitterness? He would have infected me. He would have "won" for real. Narcissism can be infectious if you don't don't get out in time. I'm sure that some narcissists can claim having had a hand in helping to develop a new narcissus.
Yellllllllllo
I like your perspective. Keep up the good work
I am "no contact" with my ex narc and thanks to your channel I am going to stay no contact, rhanx
Lisa Collins we are in the same boat. Started my NC. Slipped a bit and made contact just to hear what he had to say but watching these videos helps you to stay on the right path which is far away from them. Dont make the same mistakes I've made and taken him back so many times. Every time hes come back worse than before. The pressure it puts on your health is not worth staying with these toxic people. Goodluck. The sun will come out just keep strong
@@angypapa2191 thanx for the encouragement. I guess I am only attracted to narcissist s because this is the second narc I have been involved with. Healthy men are usually already taken and narcissists have many woman at the same time. Stay strong girl and don't settle for anything other than a healthy man. Good luck
I see all us beautiful survivors out there and it's a happy feeling knowing how strong we all are. Namaste! Survivors united :)
Mine ghosted me then tried
To come back 2 months later
I rejected the Hoover and sent a video
On way the narcissist disappears
I went no contact
I have not heard from since
After the ghosting
The narc and there best friend ex lover
Showed up at a party were they new I would be
I believe they came to see what kind of shape
I was in I spoke to the friend and acted
Like the narc was not there
Cool mr Michael..💥 Dont let anybody ever fool you again🙂👍
That's how you do it. Treat them like they blend with the air when you "bump" into them in public.
I wasn't even a good supply, so he forgot about me quickly.
Thank you I enjoy listening to you & your positivity. This is a very in depth kind of abuse that people don't understand unless they themselves went through it . ...Short story , I did the final discard it's a month into no contact and the healing process . It's hard but I'm fighting! Thank you again I'm glad I discovered this video and now subscribed to your channel 👍 much love & respect , Michele from Staten Island ❤️
Great info.
He randomly became scarce after I dropped the love bomb on month 7.
He suddenly dropped me at weekends stopped investing time and fun with me, I went no contact after he ignored me, I went no contact for 2 weeks, he came back and seemed really sorry...
But it got worse..
This is hard to hear but absolutely true I’ve learnt it’s ACTIONS not WORDS are what count.
They give you lots of nice words / sentences that make you feel great but deep down you know that you know something is properly OFF!
I was a gullible idiot at the disregard stage I hardly saw him but his words and promises where bait.
ex narc said that I was giving him so much love ❤️ until he cannot take it any more and he said he doesn’t like it
Doesn’t make him feel comfortable.
Huda 218 Me too!
@@carolgreen2850 Mine too! they are so weird
She told me I love too much.
Same here, @Huda 218, I was "too affectionate." wtf? However, in the beginning days, he was all over me like an octopus who hadn't eaten in a week. lol
how stupid this kind of people are...
It's very rare that the people that once knew the narc gravitated towards you..Narcs have no mercy on their smear campaign usually do a good job in getting everyone to believe their lies about you and how horrible you were all the bad things you did🤣 their telling on themselves ,but making it out to be you... these things are not human their demonic. 8years of hell...3 year's of healing and growing.
Hey Desmond! I just got home, having a beer and just found your channel. I'm gonna binge a little...expect comments lol 🙂
Thank you for the support
That’s why I keep watching these videos
Love your realness! I filed for divorce and kicked mine out. Best decision I ever made
Good! Enjoy your freedom. you deserve it! 💪💪💪
Yes you said it, respect ourselves!
You look and sound just like my primos lol thank you carnal! I relate to your story so much, practically identical! I love your message, thank you! Keep it up, spread the word!
This is true but if you create a narcissist injury best believe even if they say they move on they don’t really move on they will get revenge on you the sneaky way they still watch you so be very careful with this kind of people..
True fact I had my ex friends at the club try to set me up
yesss, he's silent he did the hoover and now he is trying to track my cell phone where abouts!!
I appreciate your clarity in these messages. Real talk💯
🙏🙏🙏
It’s a shit feeling realizing I am an object to a narc and she believes she can use me whenever she wants.. at least I understand now why she is back and fort in my life.. I wish never met her
i love that ... happy that you are a positive person .... stay amazing.
This made me feel so much better! No contact going on close to a year. 🙏🏽
These talks are awesome. The healing process has been smooth so far. Ive been no contact for 3 weeks now. My ex Narc discarded me after a series of events in her life, then covid-19 came. So, the quarantine was rough at 1st, but is mkg. The healing better. I have no choice but build myself. Thanks
Bruh you got this. trust me. When you realize how pathetic she is, your healing will be even faster
As long as they have access to you / your atmosphere , they will get their rocks off on making every attempt in attacking it
A former narc discarded me back in December 2017. It was the third and last time, because I let it be. He tried following me on Instagram lol, I signed up but never used it. So I blocked him there and on my former fb page. This idiot had the nerve to show up on my door step July 2018. I had just started back working again. I told him never to come back and threaten to call the police with my phone in hand. LMAO haven't seen him since, the audacity of these assholes. With the hatred I have for narcs and this particular one, especially when it showed up. I certainly would have went to jail. Besides that random pop up, it's been 3 years no contact.
Good for you 💪
He hovered me but it’s over now for me I was feeding into the BS but now starting today I don’t care.
The end reminds me of something she said when she found a new job (again), that was still during the love-bombing phase. She said:
"Every woman look at me funny here"
I asked why and she said:
"Because I am beautiful".
That was one of the first in the long list of "wtf?" moments to come.
"I'LL f myself over just to prove a point"
Me: uh well look at all the bs you'd have to deal with afterwards
Her: "I don't care"
Wow... They'll actually bend themselves just to get a point across..
2 years no contact/no hover 💪🏼 they went back to a ex
Believe in karma.stay strong and happy.
no contact drives the narc mad
So true. I did expose my ex went super Nova on him in March. I worked with him and he hoovered by coming by my desk to check on me. I left my job in May and he wanted to be friends....funny how he told me that he hasn't been himself the past few months and that he goes to work, goes home and doesn't feel like eating just be in a corner curled up.....I don't know whether to believe him or not...I know they lie all the time . I do believe I caused a narc injury and yes they care when they lose control..it's all about the control.
Congrats on leaving and all your success!! Right now I'm working on myself and figuring out my next but I feel good!
You said, "I don't know whether to believe him or not". I can answer that question. Never believe him or any narc. They are all pathological liars. All the pity parties he pulls on you is a technique to play the victim to gain your sympathy and hoover you back in. Don't fall for it. He probably feels like shit. But that is because his supply has escaped. He doesn't care about you, he only cares about his supply. Remain steadfast and don't break no contact.
Hope I don't sounding too preachy.
@@raccuia1 I concur
Best bet is to block his number, delete all social media connection from him and act like you never met him.
They are sick puppies, they put all effort into getting you back for control than to get you back because they love you (which they dont, they're like zombies void of true emotions)
Here's my story, after a week of NC w/ my narcissistic ex, he suddenly called me telling me how much he miss me and all those stuff, giving me hope that he wants us to be better for our future relationship, so I agreed and I was also still hopeful for it. But guess what happen the next day? He invited her so called "Broken Hearted friend" into their house just for a reason that He just wants to help her since that girl Is suicidal. And just up for work. lIke wtf? And then I've gone crazy as heck, I was always calling him the next day and the other days just to let him know that what He did was wrong. I really gone monster and feeling so hopeless since I still love him and what he did is really traumatizing. But I ended up just being the bad person because he told me I was harassing the girl and Him.
I'm moving on from this one. I hope we will all recover soon. Please don't ignore the red flags. We deserve better. ❤️
Going through this ghosting right now. Blocked every possible spots to where there is no contact. But I feel like he's testing me to see if I'm going to break and give in. Like I need or miss him. Constantly testing me , telling me the plan,follow his ORDERS.... so over it
Mine hoovered for the same reason as I witnessed me move on and actually I don't need it. I had no ego hurt for its discard as once its mask was off, I wish it would rejected me forever. It wanna make me love it, because of its fake ego but the fact is the more you are around those people, the more you feel they are very disgusting.
True 💯🙏👁
So healing ❤️❤️❤️ thank you
Wow so my narc wasn’t the only one who thinks that dreams somehow translate to reality? I thought she was nuts. Guess she’s a normal narc.
So true, thats how they are n worse. Stay blessed and stay happy!
Bro I went through the same scenario with my narcissist!
Yes love over narcs.i hope I can stay away from mine.always felt something was very off
Thank you
I so relate to your life story been descarted 3 times and she returned 2 and on the last descart I asked her a stupid question if she loves me
They don't care at you at all they suck you dry hurt you 😢and leave
Before my ex narc discarded me, she told me.. if we break up and you become sucessful you should thank me because of me you will not be sucessful
Keep up the great work!
Thanks 😊
Thank you for the encouragement 🙏🙏🙏
I've been NC for 2 months now & I ran into the ex Narc this morning in our small town grocery store. Talk about tucking his tail between his legs & running! Funny how before Christmas when h eff had NS he wanted to be right in my face! Cowards...just cowards!
oh,they care if they are out of next target to be busy with.
Thank you!!!!❤
Beautifully said. Thanks. It is so worth helping myself out. Amen.
Man you don’t know how much this to me seriously, and I don’t know why I think you are talking about someone I know but I am in Eau and you are in the sate
14:13 "...they can never love anymore, because they've given you al - GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE..YEAH, THEY CARE..." Best part of this clip brother! I had to listen like 10 times fucking hysterical!
I'm three months in no contact. He actually came back to hoover me after he saw that Im doing better, meeting new people etc, texting me that he can't believe that I stopped caring about him haha. After I rejected the Hoover, he started sending me pics of him going on dates with a new girl, which is their triangulation game but hurt me anyways. I know there is no future for us but I'll wake up depressed because I know that he doesn't give a shit. I'm hoping this pain is going to go away quickly
@April Rosé I did block him but he will create new accounts to send me that kind of bullshit. I was upset for a couple of days but I'm feeling better now, he's such a piece of shit
it will, mine did the hoover and he went silent I blocked him and deleted, now he is trying to track my where abouts on my cell phone, ...he's silent for now, but I know he's gonna show up he hates to lose, and he never could control me
GOOD JOB BROTHER.
Wow! Soo true.
Love you 🥰🥰🥰🥰you are so knowledgeable. 😘😘😘😘😘lucky women you deserve the best .
When you discard the NARCISSIST and he blocks you on Facebook and Messenger but leaves Whatsapp unblocked is that considered a hoover as well?
Me tooo
Man I been dear 😢 is not eazy .
So on point.
Btw I dance bachata 😄
Thank you for great videos
yes I am valuable..I carry his car insurance and pay for it because he cant get it and I have the season tickets for our favorite NFL team. So yes, you are damn right Im valuable and bet at this very second as I type this, as he lays in bed throughout the night in his new abode he moved too a few weeks ago 6 hrs away, thinking about what he will not have in 2021..oh well I tried to give him love he never had even knowing what I know, and it wasnt good enough. So I need to now do damage control..again.. and try to move on again..
Love your videos
thank you 🙏
So true
I got hoovered back twice, never more!
Hellllll yeeaaaa the narch dont care THEY SUFFER ehen U go no contact , DO IT Anyway 🔥🔥🔥
My brother KN acts as if sisters are to use && dismiss/ objects are to HOARD
WHAT A WASTED meaningless life.
wondering if my narcissist really knows how to strategize his actions cause he's slow. not being funny but I was really wondering if this man really knew and was he doing things in order and are aware of the patterns as narcissist do? Was he this intelligent to purposely strategize?
Also he told people that im the ones who left him. NOT TRUE. he actually was mad at me cause i told people what really happened which he disguarde me and YELLED I WANT TO BE SINGLE! he asked why am I telling people our business. So does he really think this is how the break up ended? he even told me that I left him. I was in shock because I do know that he has an anti personality disorder that he was diagnosed with (on prison) I use to pop up at his place and he would avoid me. I swear he was running and hiding fr me. all I wanted was closure and a reason. Its been 6 months and still no answer.
Also he blocked me on social media and 1 month later I noticed he unblocked me. he doesnt have a new supply . well let me rephrasE that. If he has a new supply, he damn sure ain't making it public. in his case, he didny leave for another woman. he hangs out clubbing going on dating sites not working and just looking like a damn fool. threw away a good one just to be single with no goals.
I watch these videos everyday trying to figure him out cause I could never treat someone like me this way. He even told a mutual friend that he wouldn't go to a party he was invited to if I was going to be there. So its strange that he seems scared of me or avoids me. im thinking because Im a very social person and he couldn't be himself. and perpetuate with his mask if I were there. I think he's uncomfortable that I could be myself and he couldnt
if he's antisocial personality disorder diagnosed, you were with a sociopath. He's being manipulative. Also as a narcissistic person, he cannot admit defeat to others. he had to look like the winner. You don't have to be intelligent to be manipulative and be successful at it. they've been doing it their whole lives. that's all they know. Be happy you're no longer with him and just move forward. you know who really won 😉
I agree with you
Thank you
That's my wife soon to be ex.
How does she keep hoovering you, texting and calling you if you have gone no contact??? I.e i presume you have blocked her on all devices and all media.
Well this was made over a year ago. She hasn't contacted me at all since then. I completely cut all contact. best decision ever
block n delete
Great thanx
He’s currently making his new supply into me? Posted pictures then made her make her profile private after he saw my glow up? How would I know if I was a grade A supply
Your English is perfect amigo. Great post.
I miss him.
It's been a year and five months since I went no contact. I know exactly what he is and what he did to me. But I still miss "him". It's horrible to miss someone that you know doesn't exist. I pray to God I stop thinking of him at some point soon.
Help me get stronger
yes they care...but for the wrong reasons..they want to control you and their supply is NO good it cant match yours, or supply is running very low... lol mine is trying to track me on my cell phone after NC, hoover and his silent treatment...leave me alone!!!
Yeahh.. they like to go out put on a show for everyone to look at them and then they will say you jealous. I so glade i know the truth eh, thank god for youtube and the internet. And when u discard them its you that hurt them they will tell u the most vilest thing and they will never apologize for that exact statement they made about you they will beat around the bush like : sorry i put u on the spot or sorry u feel that way but never a authentic apology and even tho finally do.. the apology is Nonchalant
look at Trace Face It
Trace face it is always on point with these issues, love her!
@@cjfree1375 Apart from her religious angle..
Omg no ive come way to far
Does these people ever get help maybe something traumatic happen to them that cause them to behave the way they do you know like some child hood trauma maybe they need help maybe it's s some kind of mental issue cause mental illness comes in different shapes and forms that's my thoughts on the issue who knows I could be wrong all I know is they are human with flaws.
They are VERY well aware that their behavior is bad. And they have full control of their behavior. That's why the moment they are either exposed or at risk of losing supply, they change their behavior to best suite their needs. there's no excuse for the abuse they cause. They often don't get help because they don't think abbreviated is wrong and most likely they don't care.
When someone you cut off keeps trying to come in your life acting like nothing happened what do you do? They come up to you all smiles how are you .They ask you what the time is and if it’s going to rain and you kind of feel bad not answering.Should you answer? It seems like you just forget the fact that you want to cut them off especially when they ask you around other people because you look bad in front of them when you ignore them.But you know this person is wicked and you want nothing to do with them.I feel bad.Thoughts??!?
Keep reminding yourself of this person's wicked ways and go completely no contact. These people will find any means necessary to get back into your life. forget about em. And don't feel bad. You're not responsible for anyone else's state of being or mood. Let them rot by themselves. You got this! 🤜🤛
JC DEZMEN thank you so much for your input. But you know one thing that has me confused is how does it work for a narc to get back into your life. If you already know they are a narc then it won’t ever be like the first time when you were absolutely clueless? If you accidentally reply to a Hoover attempt then how will it go? Will a person just pretend like what happened never happened and then when something else happens they right back to fighting with this narc? But if you know observe don’t react now and you didn’t before can a person be truly hoovered back once they have the knowledge? How does that work? I can just imagine when you give the narc an inch they take a mile. When you respond to one thing they just keep coming at you. Thank you so much for your time 🙏
Is it once you talk to them at all that is considered a relationship?
Narcs are completely delusional. YOU just have to focus on you. Narcs will use any excuse to Hoover you. They will also act as if nothing ever happened. It doesn't matter what you know. They only care about getting the supply. Don't worry about that. Just cut them out, heal and live a great life without them.
JC DEZMEN Thank You so much for you time. You are so right! Greater is coming.Thank You 🙏
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I think the Narc does care. He is badly wounded.
That's the act to make you come back. And then they will do you worse than the last time. Aside from being pathological liars they are actors too.
yes they do
Nope ,,,, 😋