How Does DMC5 Hold Up? | One Year Later Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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After one whole year since launch and numerous requests from the viewers, the first full J's Reviews game review in almost a year is here, and it's a look at Devil May Cry 5 for the Playstation 4! How does the game hold up after a year's worth of playtime? Watch and find out!
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I don’t think I’m ever going to be as happy seeing a game get announced again as DMC5.
DMC6 because I'm not expecting them to give the series anything new for a very long time.
When i saw the DMC5 trailer and realized that the game is not only being made but it also looks good my hype was through the roof. And i rarely get hyped about games anymore.
Yeah, that long wait really made it hype
@food wich nah, the teams back together, I give them 5-6
DMC5 announced: Ok, good.
Nero revving the sword: Ok, excellent, original DMC continuity.
Nero using the same attack animations: YES THEY ARE BUILDING UPON DMC4 THANK YOU!
Hope next game is about Sparda. Doubt they have the RG tough balls to keep him a mystery. Will respect if they do though.
I know what I want to see: Vergil DLC.
Hopefully the team modding in Vergil gets hired by capcom. Even if it is just a one time thing for a Vergil Campaign
Buy the PC version and download the mod, it is obvious we are not getting an official relase.
I apreciate Capcom's new "complete experience" policy, but Vergil was pretty much finished as a playable character, dont know why they didnt release it.
Jose 84 The answer is most likely they're keeping him as a Special Edition feature when it inevitably comes out
@@tieuucanh8958 this. Releasing Vergil as dlc means Capcom will make less money than selling the game again with more stuff on it as a special edition, they probably can justify a second release with Trish and Lady too, some touch ups here and there (like turbo mode) and what not. Making the dlc isn't as profitable
we will probably see a special edition on next gen
This game EASILY hold up. Imo even in like 10 years it still could hold up.
DMC1 is almost 20 years old, and still holds up, DMC3 is 15 years old, and still holds up...same will happen with DMCV.
That’s easy to say now.
Gotta have a game to hold up till the next game. 10 years seems bout right ;p
Even an unfinished product like 4 still holds up. Even without SE those combo mad videos still keep coming for almost 10 years.
@@book1840 4 isn't just an unfinished product. It's the deepest dmc has gotten and I can inform you that it holds up way better than 5 even a year after its release. You want proof? Go see what the top level players prefer, 4 or 5. Most of them would say 4. 5 is better as a game but 4's inertia and other details cannot be touched gameplay-wise.
I remember there was a quote my friend said that I fully agree with:
You can pause the game in a fight at nearly any moment, go to photo mode, and it will look amazing.
This game is everything I had dreamt it would be. It took the hype we accumulated for 11 years, made justice to it, surpassed it, exceeded it and fucked its brains out.
THIS is how you bring back a beloved franchise.
20:30 RIP the original Cerberus man. It got destroyed in the battle againts Balrog in the prequel novel (remember that the original Cerberus' soul was in them so he died in the process) :c
Especially sad is the fact that Dante really liked Cerberus as it was his first Devil Arm - no matter how low on funds he was he never sold him unlike any other Devil Arm - he liked that dog.
Also it is worth remembering Cerberus truly was a Noble kind of demon unlike his king - remember, that guardian dog was polite and even gave Dante a chance to turn and go away and then gave his blessing when the young man bested him in a fight.
DMC5 was rough for the Sparda Bros. Dante lost his dog, Vergil lost his cat and bird.
@@phootaphan9166 I don't know about you, but I think vergil is glad they are gone
long live balrog
@@Ghostel3591 that Cerberus didn't get order from Mundus, Sparda is just sealed him along 6 other Sins on Teme Ni Gru.
While King Cerberus just doin his job since Urizen tell him to protect.
It's a minor detail but I really like that 5's extra material expands on 2's story and directly ties it to 4.
There's a file in the report section that explains how Arius and the Ouroboros Corporation did what they did. Agnus worked for them, his research was responsible for all the stuff Arius did. Arius stole his research and fired him which led to Agnus joining The Order and continuing his research to achieve what they did in 4.
It's a minor thing but it's more than 2 ever gave us. Like J, I was excited that 5 followed 2 so it could finally be addressed but was disappointed with the retcon putting it before 4. But rather than do that solely to ignore 2 with no issues, 5 actually fleshed out 2 and made it integral to the universe for the first time.
Zero Attention Gaming wow I never knew about this that’s incredible
Still kinda sucks that it was shoved into the reports section like DMCV was afraid to ever directly acknowledge DMC2 as a game.
I'm both amused and kinda saddened that the DMC anime had more effort put into its description than DMC2 during the History of DMC video where all DMC2 got to its name was "Dante fought bad guys and then DMC4 happened"
@@LD1E60 Whatever.
@@LD1E60 Sorry, I didn't mean that to sound passive aggressive. Probably should've used a better turn of phrase.
@@LD1E60 but not afraid enought to sell it separately on the switch
You know what's really shocking about this game? It's just so sincerely sweet and the ending is just so sentimental. I love it.
shitty ending
What's heartwarming is the main menu having all characters in the van, so you have moments of Nero x Vergil or Dante x Vergil and it's not some "I NEED POWAH" type-deal. Just vibinnn lol
@@TabishJamalV what makes you think that?
@@TabishJamalV I agree
@@GeezOozCryst whats so bad about it?
DMC3 on the Switch has a Free Style mode where we have all Styles and weapons accessible. I’m already seeing combo videos about it and hopefully Capcom release as DLC for the HD Collection (other consoles that is not a Switch) but I doubt it
That also has playable Vergil and co op bloody palace.
@@pbates1693 playable Vergil had been around for like 15 years
@@Vi0ar but its co-op
@@Vi0ar you can play as virgil along side with dante
@@Primal212 you could TECHNICALLY do it before on mission 19 if you had two controllers for half a boss fight
As someone who doesn't have time to play games that much anymore, I dedicated almost the entirety of 2019 to get DMC5 platinum trophy and I can count in my fingers the times I wasn't having fun or was bored. Got my platinum in January this year and even now I still want to play DMC5 because it's just way too much fun, it really is a special game and a complete package. I can't even remember the last time I wanted to come back to a game in a short spam of time, usually I wait 2-5 years or so.
I know this a more than a year old but I gotta ask. How the f did you not get frustrated or bored s ranking hell or hell? Like, I want to plat the game but that trophy is in my nightmares already.
Oh hell NO, getting the platinum for this game is a big NO NO for me, I'd rather just play this game for fun when I feel like it.
Next steps for the series?
- DMC5 SE with playable Vergil, Trish and Lady
- DMC 2 REMAKE with the RE 2 Remake treatment
- Castlevania/Bayonetta Crossover?
- DMC 6
Nice 20 years or so?
Itsuno himself confirmed in an article last year that there will be no special edition.
I really want to see DMC 3 remake with graphic like dmc 5
i will buy them all
@@TheInvincibleLincoln he lied
The three leads are still hot so it holds up perfectly.
V - teenage girl crush
Nero - long-term adult relationship
Dante - sugar daddy
@@matheuscruz8574 how bout vergil?
@@DanteAlighieri612 Vergil - hump & dump
@@matheuscruz8574 haha
@@matheuscruz8574 accurate
I really wish the game had 21 missions. Imagine, you've made it to mission 20, it's the final showdown with Dante vs Vergil for the last time and when you win and think that the game's coming to an end it's like "YOU THOUGHT! MISSION 21 HERE WE GO"
I was honestly expecting this lmao
yeah no, it seems really pointless especially since the story is literally already done in Mission 20 and no other DMC has even done that at all
@@557deadpool I mean the game technically does have 21 missions; it’s just that the prologue isn’t called mission 1.
@@557deadpool dmc1 had 23 missions
@@ssstickerzzz5167 you completely misunderstood my point, no other DMC game has any extra missions after the story is obviously concluded because then it'd be a poorly paced mess
This just makes me all the more confused why dante isn't in super smash bros ultimate.
Like come on it would be so simple.
You put bayoneta in so why not him?
because bayonetta 2 was published by nintendo
I think travis deserves to be in smash
6 more dlc characters.....so let’s hope
Dmc3 is now on switch. Come on guys
He's an anime dude with a sword, seems like he's got a very good chance of getting in. On the other hand, Nero is slowly becoming every anime and Vergil is the most glorious weeb shit around.
How can you choose just one stylish anime boy when you have those 3 choices?
DMD is balanced, but it's not about HP versus defense. DMD is balanced around how well you understand the metagame and advanced mechanics. Sure you can get through the game even on SOS relying on the ground game and halfway decent dodging. DMD is where juggling and crowd control become essential tools.
...until you realize you can S-rank missions while dying twice on them without a lot of effort. And having QuadS. And presets of Devil Breakers to turn fights into cakewalks. And don't get me started on Faust, not touching that thing.
Not so essential now, eh?
@@user-yk9kh3xu5s Faust is only reliable for S-Ranking if you're going the No-damage route. There are some missions with the ranking very odd (M10-12-18 I think it was) M-18 specially is a pain to S-rank without No-Damage Faust.
But overall I do agree with nochtczar... DMD is balanced, the only mob that does have a bit too much HP is the Proto Angelo, but if you know how to deal with it then is all good.
@@RG_Gaming03 8, not 18. Basically every mission outside of prologue that ends with Urizen kicking the crap out of you has a small style points reduction. 18 is pretty easy to S-rank so long you don't hit anything but familiars and blood clots related to the final arena.
DMD's failure in 5 is presenting actual challenge to S-rank itself for an average player because the game itself gives you tons of ways to cheese. You get S so long as your final score is 6k+. Oh, you red orb revived twice on the boss, basically destroying their hp pool with it because we didn't scale damage of it down for DMD? You, sir, a one skilled player, have your rank!
@@user-yk9kh3xu5s 8 was the other one!! I didn't have personally trouble S-Ranking 8 so I always forget about it... 18 on the other hand was though, always a little too low on points. In the end I went for a no-damage run to do the trick.
Also, the average player most likely won't be doing enough stylish points without the 1.2x multiplier for not dying (Specially on the low-point missions), dr faust wont give enought points either unless you're already on a good rank (Had to use that cheese on M10, and actually wasn't that much of a cheese to get it to work tbh)
The red orb one MIGHT be usable against Urizen v3 and maaaaybe Vergil, for the rest I don't think so. for Urizen v3 I always get 7-8k before adding the 1.2 multiplier and Vergil M19 around 6k before multipliers.
isn't jc combos technically counts as cheesing the game similar to using Faust. There's not risk and it's fairly easy to do
I had a smile all the way through DMC5. It might be my favourite in the series. Out of a future game I wouldn't mind seeing either a solo Nero game or a prequel with Sparda.
I'd say DMC5 is the best overall game in the series. :) also love the ending so much.
Vigril: "DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT!"
Dante: "Jackpot!"
As someone who does get really into the combos, V is the least broken of the characters. His pseudo-free actions are cool but he doesn't have enough attack variety to abuse his free action style. He would be an interesting character in any game that wasn't DMC, but plainly put, he doesn't have enough bullshit to be interesting in DMC.
But, speaking of free actions, let us turn to Dante and the blade which shares his name. Oh my dog, find me the person that came up with DSD so I can kiss them. Lets give Dante free actions, and then lets also give him a mini-devil trigger that will pay for itself, and you can still gain DT while its active.
Like, this arguably makes DMC5 Dante more busted than DMC3 Dante, and DMC3 is a broken(in a good way!) ass game. If I had one complaint about DMC5's combat, its that every character has "float lag," if you attack in the air but are close(less than standing height) to the ground, the character floats instead of dropping to the ground. While I understand this is good for the average player, for combo techs it means you can't landing cancel an air attack anymore, it makes Ladder combos more difficult(not in a good way), and low-air beatdown combos on knocked down enemys are nearly impossible unless its a Fatty enemy.
Enemy jump cancel boxes are just a bit too big in my opinion too, again this is something that's good for the casual player, but it can make certain combo patterns a bit too finicky. Even with extremely tight timing, doing some aerial beatdowns always ends with you gaining a bit too much height.
From someone who deeply understands the combat system, DMC5 is a fantastic entry and from a pure gameplay perspective, is a very strong contender for the Best in the series. Personally, DMC3's combat engine is superior in the things you can do with it(especially since the Switch re-release that allows on the fly combo switching), but if someone said DMC5 was their #1, I'd respect that opinion and wouldn't challenge it.
Dmc 2 is my favorite because the helicoptor is the best boss fight in the entire series.
I just wanted you to twitch in agony.
GAME OF THE YEAR EVERY YEAR
too bad God of war won it
@@nagato1549 of course not everyone wants to expand their knowledge in dmc 5 combat soo they immediately give up saying that its clunky and cant beat the first boss
I would highly recommend you to play a significant amount of time in DMD, I think it's far and away the best difficulty. In Son of Sparda the enemies die way too quickly to let you take advantage of moves like Showdown and mechanics like SSSS. I also thought that at the beginning that enemies just never died, but once I learned how to use mechanics it got much better. I will say that V does feel pretty tedious on DMD, and even learning how to manage DT and Nightmare properly still doesn't really make the game that much more exciting, but finding the proper times to Buster enemies, gain DT with Blocks, Dodges, Air Taunts, and especially SDT with SSSS, enemies are way more fun to use. Staying on SoS will make you performance become stagnant because of how easily they die
They do? Damn :(
I came back to this comment just to say, this comment really inspired me, oddly. I'm going to try to S Rank the DMD Dante levels, been a ball busting blast so far.
@@JsReviews remember to learn how to use SSSS as Dante, Sin Inferno will stun almost every enemy and boss, Blue Rose being charged at all times is a must, learn to practically shoot and use DT accordingly. Take time, it takes practice but I think it is by far the best difficulty, I S-Ranked Hell and Hell, DMD feels like a blessing at this point
@@samu1414 have you tried to use v cane when he kills a stalemate enemy and immediately move to the next
It makes up for it
@@Ghost_Of_Past1 I have but that doesn't solve Vs main issue of lack of offensive options and damage (compared to Nero and Dabte) since V has the best defensive options in the game the problem isn't defeating enemies, it's that they just aren't that much fun to fight
Capcom have a hard time with giving their franchises new protags. Whether it's Apollo or Nero, you're just not gonna beat the affection for that first character that established the franchise with a new expy that's basically the same but way less competent. The best you can hope for is giving 'em a metal arm or an eyepatch and have them hold out until everyone's favorite steps in the ring again.
For what it's worth I think Nero is way better in 5 than in 4, but I don't think they can ever replace Dante with Nero any more than they could replace Phoenix with Apollo.
You can never replace these iconic chars unless you make something as good and stick with it. Nero looks too much like a budget Dante. Someone more fresh and original is whats needed.
Well, Nero is no Dante, but he is cool enough now. DMC5 is the best they could do to pass the torch, and they did it with very good taste and love for the characters. It is refreshing in times were other franchises are being utterly destroyed by people who don't like them taking control.
IDK... I actually liked Nero more than Dante after 4.
I'm not sure about replacing, but overall I still like Nero more.
I dont see any reason to even replace Dante with Nero. Hes another character with white hair with demon heritage. His personality in 5? Its like they were trying for DMC 3 Dante when we have Dante. You can do more with Dante and Vergil now that they are together, Mundus is still alive. And if not that, we can find out about Sparda. Nero would just be a saturday morning cartoon adventure. No real ties to anything unique to him.
Nero started out as an expy of Dante in 4 for sure, but he really came into his own by the end of 5. He's not as playful as Dante, he actually gets a girlfriend, and is much more volatile than Dante ever has been, he's not afraid to show emotions whereas Dante hides all his trauma and deeper feelings behind his mask of wacky, woohoo, man.
It has already been 1 year? Crazy how time flies.
The huge criticism I haven’t seen anywhere: it would have taken the devs 10 seconds to make all 3 characters playable on all missions after you complete them. Could have been almost 3x content.
Not 10 seconds, but yes. It would have been quite nice to have all characters playable on all missions after completing SoS or something. Not a huge thing, though, as you can just pick the missions with a given character or play BP.
Skipped a day in high school? I would've expected you to say college.
one year later and still one complaint:
*Wheres the Vergil,Capcomowski?!*
He’ll likely be in SE but I don’t like the fact that we’re gonna have to buy the game all over. It made sense with DMC4: SE since DMC4 was originally a PS3 game but, if DMC5: SE is gonna be released on the PS4/Xbox One and not next gen, I think it’s ridiculous for us to have to spend money on a game we already have. If it’s gonna be released on next gen, fine, but if it’s gonna be released on the systems we have currently, I think there should be a separate SE expansion pack for people that already own the base game.
@@MyNegroAcademia They're gonna make it like an expansion. Like capcoms other series monster Hunter. Back then you had to pay for a new game to get the expansion but with mhWorld they had it were it was 40 dollars instead of a new game. Likely will happen with dmc5.
Alright you got your wish
Well you got your Vergil because dmc 5 se is coming out in 2 months
@@bisexual_enby5586 and I am hella thankful. Thanks for notifying me
I had no clue that DMC4 suffered from production issues! I was just flat out super hyped to get that as my first Xbox 360 game.
great review
I was wondering this question on EVERY game I bought, "since the hype is gone is the game still playable"?
DMCV is a YES.
A year later and I’m still going for the Plat. Eleven years, man. A full 11 years after DMC4 and this is how the series returned. I hope we get more games and they just continue to get crazier like DMC5.
V is pretty fun to play on DMD where you have to keep a close eye on your pets. But he certainly needs an expanded moveset and more pet interactions to be fun.
Should change his name to D, since this is all i get on DMD : ^)
DMC 3 has better story and world design, but DMC 5 has a better gameplay by far
I personally think both their stories are really damn good and I can’t decide which one is my favorite.
I think dmc 5 suprassed dmc 3 in a lot of way .
Well It's understandable if u think because I hold dmc3 special place in my heart I believe that dmc5 have better conclusions for the themes of the pervious games and developed it's lead characters and so I think dmc5 is better not trying to say dmc3 is not good it's actually quite the opposite like it too much that I sometimes think I replay it but overall this is my thoughts on it
DMC5 is brilliant. I’ve gone back and played the other games after finishing it, and I’ve been both more engaged with them, learning new things, and also less interested, just because DMC5 is that good. The only thing I think is outright bad in the whole game is Subhuman, but I can change that out so it’s only a problem when it shows up in cutscenes.
Devil May Cry is the best it’s ever been, and I can’t wait to see where it goes next.
Subhuman is a cool song. I don't get the hate.
@@Gunplabro i like it too ma dude
The subhuman track is pretty good and better compared to when we first heard it. The other thing I think is bad is just how pointless Lady and Trish were in this game. They didn't do anything significant. Another thing I do think is kinda bad is just not seeing enough of Vergil for character development. Like we do see his human side but we don't get to explore Vergil's character once we see him.
@@Bloodhurl67 Lady showed us dat ass. All she needed to do.
@@Gunplabro And Trish too
I’m someone that this year got into the game series and got Devil May Cry 5. It’s honestly a fun game even for a person new to the series.
One of my favorite things is how each main character has a different playlist. I’m almost finished with the first play through, and I’m already planning to play a second time. The Void is by far one of the biggest reasons I’ve gone from C and B ranks to S ranks these final missions.
The enemies are great too, both in design and fighting mechanics. You have to change your style based on which enemy or boss you’re dealing with.
Have you ever thought about getting into fighting games competitively? I feel like anyone who loves the DMC series would haha
Im a smash melee player who got into dmc cuz i couldnt play it all the time anymore. Dmc is pretty much a singleplayer fighting game.
Same. I play fighting games almost exclusively
I'm the same way. Fighting games and character action games are my 2 favourite genres
I love Devil May Cry, I've gotten quite good at it, I started with DMC 3, but I hate fighting games.
Edit:Well except Soul Calibur.
Great video man; I didn't even know about the air taunt ability and I've been playing the game over and over since its initial release.
One slight mistake however; regarding V I don't believe it was just a lust for power, if that was even the prime drive when he refused with his demon half. At this point, if he didn't, he would fade away entirely- it was always his goal to become "whole" again. And its his time, that portion of Vergil, that would result in the more developed Vergil we get at the end of the game. I could go more into it but I HIGHLY recommend you google up Visions of V; its only a handful of chapters but its a really fantastic manga piece that sadly hasn't been localized outside of Japan yet. It goes much more into all of the nightmares, Vergil's period as Nelo Angelo, and how V gets his clothes and money to hire Dante :P
Anyway great timing for this- thank the Lord for mods because its the only way we can currently enjoy playing as Vergil (albeit, fun but extremely unbalanced and over powered). I really am flabbergasted we dont have any word of a special edition with him, not to even go into stuff like Lady's night.
Yeah, V is very narratively important because he allows Nero and Vergil to "meet" and come to know each other without all the necessary drama. Without him, Nero has no true reason to feel the necessary emotional attachment to Vergil and Vergil has no place in the story to get any character development.
V as a character allows Vergil to grow without having him muddle up the story and potentially confusing mythology.
This was my first DMC( it was free) enjoyed every moment, V was my favorite to play as.
I never really got into V either. My main problem is that the familiars seem to teleport around a lot when you actually tell them to attack. They also have a delay before some attacks. I had a very hard time keeping track of everybody's positions, so I wasn't always in control which enemy they were going to attack. A lot of the times, they didn't react, and chaining their attacks together was also hard.
Once nightmare joins the fight and everything explodes randomly, all I can do is buttonmash and hope for the best.
I like the review for the most part but I would argue that Dante is more mechanically complex in 5 rather than 4. Inertia doesn't compensate for summon swords and their passive abilities, more than doubled movelist, sin dt cancel, more flexible jump cancel that allows for better control and positioning in the air to partially compensate for losing inertia (you can direct your jump using the analog stick to whatever position you want after enemy stepping off an enemy), and better weapon design.
Wrong
Really wrong.
As much I enjoy DMC5, it made me realize how much I dislike the structure of DMC4 and 5. The "20 missions structure" doesn't work for two characters, let alone three. I'd much rather have it like DMC2 where Dante and Lucia had their own campaigns (without the repeated content, that is).
Why not just add more missions?
True. I hate having a great time playing as a character that I enjoy, and then have to play as...V. Also, I lament the fact that so many of the stages are in a straight-up hellish place, instead of in a city or cathedral that has come under hellish influence.
The 20 missions structure is fine the way it is, just add up on it. Maybe 25 or 30 but that should be the max cause I don't want it to drag out.
@@Bloodhurl67 i have to disagree, its better to have smaller, but more flashed out campaigns for each character, even if we end up with a 8-7-5.
also this is the game that will really become perfect once they do what they did with 4. bringing in the girls into play, and adding vergil.
i can even see them basically " megaman x8-ing" them in, like making lucia play dante, trish play nero and lady play v missions. with vergil getting the a "all missions" pack.
An interesting detail with Dante's swords is that Sparda's transforming blade is not just a visual detail.
All the moves that make Sparda transform have higher damage than the same moves with Rebellion and DSD.
DSD is overall the best sword (and arguably best DA in the series) but it shares Rebellion's damage values for all but 2 or 3 moves, not counting DSD exclusive moves of course. The few exceptions get the same boost as Sparda.
Rebellion unfortunately has nothing going for it, beyond the combo utility of a third sword.
Might be looking to deep into it but this could be a nod to how Sparda had higher damage output than Alastor but less versatility in 1.
DSD having the same damage as Rebellion but far more applications fits it being an evolved Rebellion. Rebellion being the weakest with no unique traits fits since it is not a Legendary Devil Sword like the other two.
in dmc1 its agreed that sparda had a less divierse skillset since you coundnt dt but you could still make use of the alastor purchased moves with it(barring DT MOVES) so you could still roundtrip and get into a fistfight for some good old crowd control
Its funny you say Rebellion wasn't legendary.
In fact one of Sparda statue show him using Rebellion and Vision of V also show us picture of Sparda with Rebellion.
@@sulthanarya3281 I meant in the sense that Rebellion doesn't bear the title "Legendary Devil Sword" where both Dante and Sparda do.
It's funny how I get this in my recommendations right after coming from what feels like a two day lockdown of trying to go through another run of DMD. Couldn't agree more to what you had to say about that play mode! While "Son Of Sparda" forces you to perfectly time your combos and all the actions you can do, DMD just unnecessarily stretches out the enmies health to a point where you feel like you did EVERYTHING you can do to that boss/demon. And don't get me started on the moment where you almost killed it and that freaking thing pulls into devil trigger which rewards their health!
Other than that, was so entertained to watch this! As a fan since 10 years now, 2010, I remember how hyped I was when this was announced last year and expectations where hit to the maxium. Basically you said everything what I thought of the game, so I look forward to the next video you teased at the end! I read some pretty cool theories and have an own one (or more sort of like a wish for DMC6), but Johnny slipped up once so I am sure there'll be a 6. Would love to hear your theories so everyone can discuss together in the comment section!
250+ hours, still playing this game since release. I keep learning new moves and mechanics as i improve. I've played many video games over the years and this game i can pick up any time and have fun. I hope dlc has a coop dungeon crawler similar do D3 of some sorts. And adding more characters of course. Its close to perfect! Thanks capcom
The thing i really like is that Vergil didn't full on discard everything V learned, it helped him mellow out, just a bit
In defence of dmd mode: Large hp enemies are good if you want to do the advanced combos. Playing around with Dante and quad S melts enemies.
DMD doesn't need defending. It's the way these games are meant to be played.
Hp enemies is stay same, is just our stats getting lower.
Lets just say DMD mode you had 50% stats when the enemy has 150%
Different between DMD and SOS is enemies' DT which gives them 50% more defense/attack and higher super armor. Other things stay the same in SOS even enemies before their DT stage.
DMCV is probably the best action game I've ever played, I keep coming back to it in between other games all the time, it's truly a masterpiece and I can't even imagine it not holding up even in 10 or 20 years from now.
To me its very interesting, I just finished a No Damage No Weapons run for DMC5, and it seems like mastering this game is actually not as hard or fluid as DMC4, though definitely more smooth. I wonder do most people just play these games to beat them, I wonder if people actually try to do new things with enemies, and find new ways to manipulate them into combos.
Personally, I enjoy setting personal challenges and combo ideas, but nothing as difficult as what you did lol
Giving V access to a Nelo Angelo SDT (maybe after surviving Malphas' trap, or finding the DS Sparda) would have been what he needed to not feel as stagnant, even as a New Game + feature like Nero's DT. Have him absorb his summoned creatures and get access to a new form designed for combat. Something like Sora's KH2 forms that fuse him with party members to completely change up his play style for a minute. Wouldn't have been any more obvious than his summoned creatures as to who he is, and would've been thematic overall.
Hell, make it really strong, so that he can even feel more powerful than the other DTs in the game, but you end up sacrificing DT that you'd need to summon Nightmare/revive your stalemated summons. Maybe channeling into the SDT gauge costs HP as well, to play into his decaying condition. But in the end, the player would have the option of getting DMC3's Nelo Angelo gameplay in a modern DMC, and that goes doubly for Super costumes, applying infinite DT and all.
Missed opportunity is all I'm saying.
Also I hope the remixed songs from the History of DMC video get a release at some point because Dance with the Devils and Public Enemy sound amazing.
@J there is another mechanic that you didn't take advantage of that if you get an enemy off screen before they start their attack animation no attack will land on you.
I'd love a DMC with just Nero and Dante as playable characters.
Maybe in DMC 6 where Nero gets overwhelmed on Earth while Dante and Vergil are stuck in Hell. The brothers work together to get through Hell and back out to Earth to help Nero before he gets killed or whatever.
Also yes, this games still holds up, shit even DMC3 and 4 hold up. The only one that kinda feels dated is the original, which is a bummer because I really love that game. DMC2 I just don't care for so I don't give a shit if it feels dated. The only good thing about that game is the Dante outfit.
one thing to note with the whole V and Urizen thing, it’s not that V couldn’t overcome his lust for power and so merged with Urizen, it’s actually that he regretted everything he’d ever done, but didn’t want to die, he didn’t want Urizen so succeeded, but he wanted to live.
Interesting. I got my interpretation of it from V saying “But we are still linked by that one feeling” or whatever. I thought that was the need for more power.
I absolutely get where that would come from, but having read up to where Visions of V is at the moment, and one of V’s taunts having him say “I need more strength” I saw his want for power as closer to the strength to keep going, to stay alive, and to get rid of Urizen, because he knew what he, as Vergil had created, that being something that would never stop in its quest for power.
but that might be me over analyzing, I mean Vergil’s my favourite video game character of all time, so I very well could have looked too far into this
@@JsReviews You sort of have to separate V from Vergil. They are both the same character, but V is just one side of that. He just isn't focused on power the same way Urisen-did I spell that right?-is. But V does serve a very important narrative purpose, which is to connect Nero and Vergil and give Vergil the appropriate character development without adding another plot to this already full game.
The remake didn't have a bad story. It was great, people were just pissed it wasnt Castle Vania.
Congrats on 50k+ subs man! Here's to 100k and the silver play button.
One year ago: This is the best action game ever
Today: This is still the best action game ever
Actually that is pretty true lol. I see DMC as the number 1. Followed by its little sister Bayonetta as the 2nd best. Can't really think of a series for 3rd place?.. God of War maybe? KH2? I need a recommendation for another action series guys!.
A year later and this game is still as good as when I first played it. I have just as much fun as the first time.
Such an enjoyable game that gave me exactly what I wanted from a Devil May Cry sequel we waited 11 years for.
I’m not the best gamer but I Love the Devil May Cry games that I have played. When this game was announced I was so excited and we pre-ordered it as well. Truthfully I am a button masher so I love using V most but enjoy playing as the others as well. Also I really enjoyed how they gave Vergil a human side this time cause once I found out who V actually was I gained a stronger liking for Vergil and just loved how Nero didn’t want to lose either of them even if his dad is an asshat lol. All in all I come back to this game every once in a while and really enjoy playing it ever time I do.
I realized my best controller setup is keep the right bumper for blue rose, and the right trigger for the exceed to just make one hand do both
The fighting systems hold up (I even liked V's playstyle), but speaking as a casual fan of the series, the campaign got really samey towards the end. I went from "10/10 GOTY" to "when will it end already?" Felt like a glorified Blood Palace more than anything, they could've cut the last 5 missions or so (with some boss shuffling, of course), and the game wouldn't have lost anything. But then again, I feel in the love with the series because of its "Resident Evil where YOU have the power" design of the earlier entries, so maybe I'm not the one to talk.
One big thing that DMC5 is missing is Legendary Dark Knight difficulty, which is the same difficulty as Son of Sparda, but it adds tons of enemies in each fighting area that are from the mid to late game along with the early game enemies. It's my favorite thing in DMC4.
Wasn't that exclusive for PC in DMC4? Consoles probably lack it because simulating so many enemies in a stage causes huge strain on them but yeah they could have brought it to PC in DMC 5.
@@DantesInferno96 Yup. And I loved each second of it. Every DMC fan should try Legendary Dark Knight difficulty.
Not going to lie I actually still every so often think of this game and then decide to throw it on and play it the thing that usually makes me turn it off it's playing as V on DMD mode, although I must agree with you this is the best Devil May Cry yet if I had to choose a second it might have to go to dmc4 special edition sorry 3 I just never had a problem with Devil May Cry 4 even with the left out content. however three definitely had the most complete story of all
Holy SHIT ikr! Devil Hunter felt easier than it should be when I first played the game. It was only when I get to the final Urizen fight or summons fight that I begin struggling. In DMC3 I felt like I was vastly challenged ever since the 2nd mission with the reaper and after beating them so many time I feel really confident in my own growth as I started out dying 4 to 7 times to them to me being able to destroy 2 of them at once in style. I feel like in 5 the biggest obstacle was Vergil. Stayed up all night to beat him and managing my sin devil trigger.
It fails in only one major aspect: lack of playable characters. DMC 4 had Nero, Dante, Vergil, Lady, and Trish, all with their own unique fighting styles, weapons and move sets. Sure, V is cool, I guess, but I'm just so not a fan of his "sit back and relax until it's time to land the final blow" style of combat. Compare it to Vergil, and it's just straight LAME.
However, Nero was completely overhauled into a phenomenally fun character to play as, and is almost better than Dante (ALMOST).
Great game, but when they were done, they were done. Still not a word from them about any kind of DLC
DMC4SE has all that. It's probably best not to compare the special edition to the base game.
A missed opportunity has to be Bloody Palace not having co-op functionality.
It would have been amazing having 2 or more players destroying the field of demons together.
8:44 I literally did the same thing , Devil Trigger just slaps THAT HARD 😗😎
i kept crimson cloud, it didnt feel right to take that song away from V, i just stuck DT on dante cuz subhuman was kinda garbage
@@velocityraptor2890 lowkey Little V fixed that hot mess. Wish I was on PC so I could switch it with his version
Ngl devil trigger kinda sucks
I just noticed that in dmc 3 Dante wins against vergil not because hes just stronger, but because he completed his soul (demon and human) other than vergil who just sees his humanity as a weakness. But now Vergil seperated his "weak" human side from his strong demon side, wich is now complete and able to beat Dante. Who is Shakesspeare
i mean Nero could have twin sons, and guess their names since he lost his dad and uncle
Vante and Dergil
@@KillaCheeto56 Venti and Dargel
@@msnjenger Yeah those sound like they work better
Just have Vergil and Dante show up and be alive, no explanation needed
@@rosesweetcharlotte but they reached the limit on what they can do with their story
I have to say. Currently loving DMC 3 SE freestyle mode on the Switch. This is what I needed. This play style switching and a whole 20 missions as Dante.
Love DMC5 but, just wanted more Dante mission whilst everyone else wants some Virgil missions.
Gameplay wise, it holds up. Storywise, well I used to think it was solid, but after the honeymoon phase realized it ruined the impact of past games. Mundus and Vergil's character were ruined due to retcons in the lore. The graphics look nice and all, but I think the artstyle of prior games are better. Soundtrack while passable was disappointing since it lost the soul of DMC's sound. Everything is hype tracks that lack depth compared to past OSTs. Decent game tho.
The artstyle didn't change that much, only 4 was all that different
@@dc7981 5 changed a lot, 3 and 4 went for a more anime style, but 5 scanned faces in. Nero looks great, but Dantes and Vergil's design looks kinda funky. But at least we got DMC 5. Also DMC 5 during the city parts looked very drab and grey, hopefully, number 6 has more creative levels.
@@sugs0377 3 has a similar grey tone while 4 was the only super anime one
@@sugs0377 It is called 'better graphics' my dude lol
DMC games give me a replayability I dont get with many games. Great review bro.
I love this game, thematically it kinda feels generic though. DMC1 had a more striking atmosphere, DMC3 had more contrasting personalities, this game has... V...
Yeah, then the fandom's fanfiction came to a screeching halt when the reveal happened. Oh, that was fun to watch!
the game sucks. generic trash i can't believe so many ppl eat this crap up
you know what we really need is "DEVIL MAY CRY COMPLETE EDITION" where we get all DMC and their DLC on 4K for ps4 or ps5.
I love it
But V really takes the fun out of 5 whenever im replaying it in higher difficulties
DMD seems to me all about knowing your own options and using them efficiently before the enemies become sponges when they pop up their DT.
I've seen videos of properly dispatching Cavaliere Angelos and other meaty contenders in a flash, unlike other games you need to spam real impacts/Sin DT quadS and really powerful DB break attacks, but you can get the job done with Nero and Dante pretty fast if you know what you're doing and done enough enemy testing.
It doesn't help for Cavaliere Angelo to have TWO states of damage reduction in DMD, one of their own and then the devil trigger state.
I'd consider you to check out a youtuber named Alan Conquvst that has done some STELLAR DMC5 tutorials and enemies tutorial videos, my DMD run got better with the tutorials he has done, I know of the Cavaliere Angelos two damage reduction stages because of him.
I managed to S rank a good chunk (I'm a scrub who sticks to SoS usually or Hard mode in DMC3), by killing some pretty fast and by turning some into punching bags for griding out the style meter.
V on the other hand...is still hell to me in DMD. Nightmare aside he doesn't even seem to have a variety of high damaging options to dispatch enemies before they DT.
I know what i would like to see. DANTE'S FREACKING KID. Daughter prefered. OR. Sparda's prequel.
Preferably with Lucia
It's still one of the best action games of this gen and that isn't gonna change in just a year.
What's disappointing is the lack of Vergil DLC.
When you said that you only have to wait a few months while people like us wait for 11 years make me jealous😂😂
I think V is an experiment by Itsuno as he is set to work on the second Dragon's Dogma after finishing DMC5.
Manual pawn control test
hot take: I like Nero more than Dante
Rixarius I agree but only in DMC4. In DMC5 Dante is the goat 🐐
the biggest issue with dmc5 is the way the 3 characters are implemented and have mandatory missions. 3 characters who shares a 10 hour game. It would be much better if the characters had individual playthroughs or that u could choose every character for every mission.
The gameplay is awesome but the plot is so dumb (and not the DMC way like the Faust hat), man. It has some great moments (like Nero's arc) and good dialogue, but everything else feels forced (Dante's and the main villain's motivations - *pun unintended*), has too much fanservice and lacks context. Heck, 3/4s of the game are about kicking Urizen's ass and the focus of the last four missions suddenly becomes killing the real main villain. It's so rushed, and the fact that Urizen is basically a nobody doesn't help its case. The main twist is so obvious it hurts, yet the game acts like it is unexpected.
If the final boss had been the main villain all along I feel the story would have been better on the whole.
I would have liked more missions for Nero and Dante, too. 20 missions aren't enough for three characters, especially when some of them are only boss fights (like the awful mission 14) and some of them are shared between characters. Doesn't help Subhuman (the best of the three character themes IMO) plays in two out of 8 of Dante's missions.
Nitpicks:
Devil Sword Dante looks ugly as hell, and locking Cavaliere R (aka the better version of the weapon) and the other versions of Gerbera (along with three uselsess arms) behind DLC is just dickish. I get the extra costumes and music, but locking some of the best weapons in the game behind a deluxe edition (which I didn't get)? Insulting.
Nicolò Enrico Rimoldi i agree with your points. The story wasn’t the greatest, but man, it is hype to see Vergil back but man, that twist was seen 20 miles away. Also, I’d would’ve liked more missions actually but it remains to be seen in a DMC game if they’re finally go past 20 missions. Game I had some fun with the game so it’s still good. DMC3 still has the best story in my opinion.
I hope they'll make an expansion like they did for DMC reboot, where Vergil will become playable and we'll get 5 - 10 missions of adventures of Dante and Vergil in an underworld.
2 dreams for dmc6 properly implemented co op.. and separate campaigns for every character… which is hopefully at least nero, Dante, and Vergil
J do you have plans to look at the no more hero's games. That game seems like something you would like as you seem to love to go over the depth's of story and NMH has one of deeper stories with some light heartness chucked in for good measure
Came here to write that I've beaten this game this weekend after a enjoyable 12 hour-seat.
Thats on my Intel i5 2nd Generation, after hours struggling in the settings trying to make the game run at 30 FPS and creating a keyboard setting that made sense.
My opinion? Awesome game. Worth every minute spent.
Regarding the game not letting you carry health items anymore - If you have the Sweet Surrender DLC for Nero, then at the phone booth, you can equip a bunch of those arms, hold then release O to get a bunch of health back (which works outside of combat). Then you can go back to the booth to restock your arms. They practically act as health items. Though, this is for Nero only.
Gotta be honest, I saw the trailer for DMC5, and got excited like a kid at Christmas, even though I had never played a Devil May Cry game before - except for the reboot. And then I played all DMC games in 3 months, what a ride!
man, the live action cutscenes were amazing though, wish you had mentioned them as well.
Dmc5 dante attacks aren't always purely functional, in that each attack is necessary and not redundant, but it's all fun, and that's sort of the point of being stylish, not necessarily optimal dps
Did you know you can melee those electric enemies in DMC4 with Dante and just use Royal Guard to block the electric counter?
Btw idk if you know about this or not but Quick Drive from DMC4 while not in DMC5's movelist it is in his moveset. No more 18:05 unless i plan to do all 3 in a crowd or something. Once i learned this i do it in every fight i'm in.
It's. Just. So. GOOD!
one thing i noticed was v and urizen merging to become vergil once again is suspiciously similar to omega zeros reveal in zero 3.
the establishing shots are very similar, with omega zero facing the camera while vergil has his back to the camera.
the boss subtitle of "alpha and omega" makes this even funnier, considering rockman zero 3 released before dmc3.
I want dmc 6 to be in hell where Dante and Vergil are just destroying every badass demon that they find, acquiring weapons and power as they go.
I'd love to see a DMC game where Sparda either makes a return or a prequel centered around Sparda
Snubbed for GOTY @ me.
In the DMC4 Special Edition, the secret to the dice game, whatever number is on top is what youre gonna get
Thanks for the tip i'm now looking to unlock super dante. I keep dying on floor 99 or 100 with just dmc 3 cqc set.
Rebellion and gloves and ebony/ivory + shotgun.
I love this game also.
H&H mode is a nightmare when you just want to reload the mission because you got downed once. you can't use the checkpoints which were the fast loading method so you're stuck skipping the cut-scene before the mission's menu and then the mission cut-scene. I know I can just get good and not get hit but its very frustrating espcially playing as V for me.
They should definitely add a speedrun mode or so that skip cut-scenes and allow you a fast try again.
One thing I hate that I would love for a speed run mode to add, would be cutting out the game over cutscene. Sometimes I just let myself die to go back to the checkpoint instead of reviving, but then I have to keep sitting through that.
I played all of them ,i just got the 5th,the first two were decent,the third is definitely the best and an amazing game,the forth was kinda mixed up couldn't finish it ,it was bad at many places,dmc was actually pretty refreshing
At this point, I’m just really looking forward to DMC5SE on the Xbox Series X. With the specs revealed about the new console so far, I’m really hyped about what they can do with the game graphically and mechanically.
I just want Lady and Trish... I'd put so much more time into this game just to play them! 😭
I started playing this game at the start of the year. At first I didn't like it that much because I didn't understand it but after I beat it on Devil Hunter mode, I can't stop playing it. I'm having so much fun with this game.