I am very impressed with how humble and sensible Nick is. It must be really hard to have your words misinterpreted and your improvements dismissed in such a public way. Nick is displaying a great philosophical attitude and intelligence here. And it goes without saying that you need be willfully blind not to see the visual changes in Nick's appearance.
Agreed. That he can relay his view and experience so clearly in under seven minutes yet was totally misconstrued in a NYT article shows what poor interviewing skills the journalist has/used. Pity that NYT still has the same clout that it once deserved for hard hitting reporting, when they're now just writing whatever the check-signers tell them to.
In the first before/after picture shown the change is a little difficult to see, although there is change there, and probably a lot to be seen by the trained eye. In the second picture, it's so much clearer to all that there is an excellent change in the face, chin and jaw area and the neck (a much better, sharper contrast). Perhaps the journalist only saw the first picture. If he saw the second it would be silly to report as he did.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, they may have a tight schedule, and don't quite have the moment to throughly think about how faces look at different angles (although these pictures were at he same angle...) or to give a good solid look at the two to notice the differences, in other words itnwould have to be extreme rather than simply significant for a rushed journalist to notice. Then again it is kind of part of their job to actually know the details, and after a moment or two of observing the two pictures and with a familiarity with how faces move ect, it shouldn't take more than a few moments to at least get the idea that the two faces aren't the same (and that one looks healthier than the other), even if you can't pin down a reason... So I half disagree and half agree with you.
It's kinda like when you don't notice your own height increase or subtle weight gain or weight loss. The change is gradual over a long period of time so you barely notice it.
a 27 year old got this much results in 2 years. imagine how much it’s possible to achieve in 5 years, 10 years. imagine how much crazier the results are going to be if one starts at a younger age, especially in their teens or even younger
The Realist i think if a 15 year old with average (but not excellent) forward growth started mewing till they’re like 25, they’d reach their full genetic potential and wouldn’t really be able to see more results. my point is i believe it’s possible to reach your full genetic potential even if you didn’t start mewing when you were really young. keep mewing and don’t give up !
Glad younger people discover mewing and for the older people, be patient doing this. And remember: TEETH SHOULD REST AND NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER. Have a slight gap between your teeth while mewing so to speak relax your jaw. Looks stupid at first but it‘s natural. Correct me if i said something wrong.
I started a year ago, at 29. and with six months of practice, I no longer bit the sides of my tongue. for me there are no photos or comparisons capable of refuting 29 years of tongue being bitten. 😂
It is evident to anyone with functioning eyes that his changes are significant. His facial proportions are more harmonious. If I had those results I'd be pleased as punch!
it's very obvious when you look at the jaw and his nose angle. but journalists, like most people, don't look at details, they are broad view thinkers and observers.
There's a clear difference in the pictures. His face changed. It was a good change. But like he said, the point was not to become a chad, but to become healthy.
The word incel is among the most disrespectful terms used in online communities. This is a space of intellectual curiosity, like mentioned above, you sound incompetent.
I am like him around his age. Suffered from terrible posture both body and tongue-face. Applied mewing for 3 years now and am aware of the great changes, never felt better. MIKE MEW YOU SAVED MY LIFE, YOU MADE ME LOOK BETTER AND I AM HEALTHIER TODAY THANK YOU.
Lol, for post-age 25 after three years, these results are miraculous. No more second chin, farther protruding chin, more upright nose, mid face expansion, etc.
THIS PROVES HOW BIASED AND SOLD OUT WESTERN MEDIA HAS BECOME. THATS WHY I HATE READING NEWSPAPER ARTICLES IN DETAILS. BECAUSE THE ARTICLES ARE FULL OF HATRED....IT IS LIKE THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED WHILE WRITING AN ARTICLE😂😂😂😂😂
It's clear that the main stream media doesn't understand what mewing is about. The most important benefits of mewing are not the aesthetics, but actually the improvements you don't see. Breathing through the nose, correct posture. These two things have HUGE impacts on one's life. Getting better cheekbones and becoming more attractive are just some sidegrades, not the main role. Keep up the work Dr. Mew! You must know that the work you do is very important to a lot of people
couldn't have said it better, if you start mewing because you want to look like an actor, you're on the wrong way and place. I started mewing because of the health benefits and I will keep doing it because of them. Greetings from Colombia Mr. Mew
Same mine was mostly health but When i saw results it went towards the looks 1,5 years of mewing even tho im in the same body fat my face looks much leaner and SO MUCH BETTER jaw
Mewing fucking works. It’s so frustrating when people try to discredit it when they’ve never done it. Orthodontists will literally attach expanders on people’s teeth to do the job that your tongue is supposed to! If expanders work why shouldn’t your tongue??? Also mike mew if you’re reading this thank you so much 🙏. I went from having constant sinus infections and noticeable lisp (due to not having enough space in my palate for my tongue) to having super clear nasal passages, no lisp, and saving myself from having to get my wisdom teeth removed. All in under a year (18-19 y/o). You’re a blessing.
Mewing definetly works. I started practicing it when I was 17,now I am 20,and my facial features changed tremendously, from an average face, I transformed into a beauty with prominent cheekbones, chiseled jaw, and a better developed midface. If your thinking of starting mewing, you should definitely do that, don't let sold-out media to discourage you from getting a well developed face naturally, with a capacity nature provided for us.
Im 40 and i got results within a week, my overbite got better, then i have had changes every month, my whole face has changed, better jaw line, bigger middle face, my mouth is in the right possition etc..Some people that have not seen me for theese 8 months thought i had plastic surgery. Mewing works for all ages, just like mike himself stated. But on the other hand, i was a mouth breather and had a long face so the results was huge for me compared to a person that starts to mew with an already strong midle face and good jaw etc.
It wasn't long at all to sort out a tmj issue for me, which was pleasantly surprising! 😁 A few weeks of at least doing lips and teeth together (I'm not sure I was doing the tongue posture properly all this time, but definitely made effort to keep it at roof of mouth), and I undid 20 years of jaw clicking when chewing - an issue which had gotten much worse to the point of locking in recent years. I thought I was going to need to see a dentist and get an operation or something to fix the problem, it was that bad before.
@@charuseTV Oh, is it? Thank you so much. I don't want hollow cheeks that is why. I will mew it to have a better face. Wishing you all the best, lol xxx🥰😍🤩😘
i just turned 38 this month. i'd heard of mewing for at least three years, but i saw it repeated over and over that the benefits would be minimal if there were any at all after 25, so i never seriously pursued it. i just started this week with some targeted thumb pulling sessions (i cannot recommend this for everyone - as there seems to be some risk of injury from people using improper technique or too much force).... my face looks slightly rounder (where it was a little too long before). the biggest difference is in the shadows of the undereye bags which always made me look tired and unhappy... they've pretty much disappeared, as my cheeks are no longer as sunken in (which i have carried and suffered with for over a decade - gone in mere moments). it's like i had under eye filler done - except this fixed the underlying problem, not just try to mask it. people tell me i look 10 years younger than my age, but my eye bags always made me self-conscious.... now it's not even an issue. my jawline is still a problem, but as my maxilla progresses, i can see it looking more attractive in a few months (i think it would take about a quarter of an inch - give or take - of forward growth for my mandible to extend forward to the optimal position)
The person who said they saw no difference probably wanted to see magic or plastic surgery result. I can clearly point out all the changes in the outside appearance. Jawline, chin, cheek all moved forward and because cheek improved, you can see a improvement in his droopy lower eyelid. Now what more about his breathing? Pretty sure that improved alot too
I’ve seen plastic surgery with bone shaving that is more subtle than this and labeled as a success! Mike Mew! Take that to court to prove your system works as well!!!
Dr. Mew deserves an standing ovation. I already had a good square jawline but one day i started mewing (thinking it was bull.... but curiosity made me do it), 6 months later one morning i woke up, looked myself in the mirror and realized my jawline was massive (almost like Brad Pitt's)
He's been labeled an ince*? by the journalist? Do they even know what incels are, because this would be really bad judgement when judging from this video.
My family say my cheekbones are more defined and my little double chin has gone. I was not ugly by any means. I've often been called pretty or very pretty but after a very serious bout of depression my posture got worse and worse over years. I look more like I did before my bad habits began. I simply wanted confidence again. Its amazing. Ny times are just propaganda like most media.
Jar Head sealing my lips more with my cheekbones if that makes sense. i used to be a mouth breather due to allergies, so it’s hard to remind myself to keep my lips sealed. if you keep your chest up while chewing, the results are quicker & you can feel your skeleton going in place from a recessive chin. my bad habit at the moment is breathing through my nose with my mouth open. i used to just breathe through my mouth which is bad, so i’m slowly but surely getting there. it’s kinda hard to keep my lips sealed cause i have an overbite due to mouth breathing my whole life. my teeth have progressed & my overbite is damn near gone. chin to chest is the key, always keep your chest up! i was a sloucher my whole life & literally had a hunchback. now my back is straight, i’m just working on keeping my chin tucked in so i don’t have the recessive chin look which is my insecurity for my side profile. a reminder i like to keep in my head is “bite down” but of course with your teeth barely touching. remember when mewing your facial structure should be growing vertical, not horizontal!
@@pharoapex I lost my old phone when I started mewing maybe one day I'll find them and be able to compare because I don't have any picture to compare...so I can't really tell, but I find myself less ugly because at least now I know how to rest my tongue, anyway I used to have a lump on one side of my palate.. it was gone the first month of mewing !
I found Billy Brenner the New York Times journalist a nice guy and thought he was convinced about Orthotropics. I think he then got back to NY and asked a few orthodontists about it. They were so united in their criticism of Mike and me that he had second thoughts and began to doubt what I had shown and said to him. I must say I was hurt to be grouped with Incels. Prof John Mew.
That is frustrating. I must say personally I am very impressed by your research and your willingness to question the status quo to find the truth and get real results. There are thousands of people in comments saying how wonderful you are and how grateful they are. There are also many videos of people showing their results on the channels. I suggested for Mike (in a comment which he might never see) that he has staff comb through the comments and screen shot the testimonials to use in court to back up your position if it is helpful. There are SO many. My daughter included. She hated the gap in her front teeth and her really round cheeks. Mewing has improved both of those things in only a year. :) So thank you!
I bet if you asked 100 random people to choose which photo is more attractive the result would overwhelmingly be for the right picture. The changes are subtle but it makes a big difference overall.
I am a fan of the results I have seen from all the cases the Mew's have shared. I have implemented their suggestions at home for our family and have noticed improvements even in my 38 year old face after a couple years of consistent effort and attention. That said, I am a stay at home mom so I expect I have more hours than most to practice the techniques and I am a highly motivated person so I practice faithfully. I really wish the broader orthodontic community would accept or at least compare their results to those of the Mew's for debate not just for them but for the betterment of all of us. As of now there are a very low number of orthotropic practitioners in most places and unfortunately, my experience has been that the supply/demand issue along with the reality that this is still considered a "fringe" treatment method has had at least some affect on the quality of service offered and the accountability of providers. I prepaid for what was to be a 24 month treatment for class II malocclusion for my son but now, eight months in (two of those due to office closures from COVID-19) we are still in the upper palate expansion (phase 1) part of treatment that was only supposed to last 3-4 months. Practitioner is now proposing additional fees that were not part of our original signed contract. My parents did not have this experience with a traditional orthodontist for me when I was a child and that is probably because there were so many orthodontists to choose from that no one would have stood for price gouging. Definitely believe in the Mew's process as an effective, if difficult, approach but feel there is lots of room for improvement and accountability in this field overall. I would suggest that for those beginning treatment, get a detailed fee schedule in writing up front that states not just the total cost of treatment but also a breakdown of what each phase of treatment costs including consultation, any appointment costs etc so that if at any time you feel you have to change practitioners (no one thinks they will have to do this when they are excited about beginning treatment) you will have some documentation to support a claim for a partial refund for those services or goods not yet rendered. At this point I have lost trust in my practitioner so we are moving on to a different provider. Since I prepaid for the entire treatment I am at the practitioner's mercy unless I take him to small claims court which I feel is distasteful. He is refunding me less than half the cost of my son's total treatment while having completed less than a quarter of agreed upon treatment. Hopefully sharing our story prevents someone else from an experience like ours.
Thank you. Beware indeed of people jumping the bandwagon and offer Orthotropic services. It's not a controlled field as it is largely rejected by the establishment. Regards, the video team
Right?! Half their crap is a bunch of bs. They got their reputation from way back when it was cool to blindly follow the big corporations in the 50’s. Not anymore.
try sleeping on your back without a pillow combined with mewing, so you can lose this last bit of loose skin under your chin and after a week or so you'll literally start feeling muscle on your face
posture is improved better and longer jawline better and more forward chin change is not dramatic but contribute to a massive improvement in the overall look, ask any person they would say the second pic look significantly better
A lot of the people commenting on the growth that is there are referring to anterior growth. The reporter sounds like he was just looking for width. Tbh I think that id be happy to even have that level of anterior growth.
This reminds me of highschool, I was also picked on by friends cause of my posture, especially while walking :D I'm so gald they did, I ended up fixing it in a few months.
If you presented the pictures differently to the journo and said these were twin brothers, he would a) be able to notice the difference with ease, and b) be willing to predict which brother was more assertive, more successful, etc.
Don't trust anyone's claims. Screenshot the two faces, line them up on eachother in Photoshop or Krita, use the forehead as your fixed mark for rotation and scaling. Assuming he had closed jaws in both photos, his chin moved forward a few millimeters. But again, don't trust me; screenshot and overlay the images yourself to see what the difference actually looks like.
I'm doing mewing too, and although it's not even a year I already have significant changes, and the reason for these so rapid results is because I had a very bad posture. I'm 19 though.
@@ShadowZx22 I'm not a model but I believe I do look good and I feel good about the way I look now, which didn't happen before. It has been one of the best things I've been doing ever.
The problem is that he's leaning his head backward. One can see that from the angle of his nose and ear. The picture to the left is also taken from a lower angle than the one to the right. One can see that from the relative height of the eye and ear (either that, or the backward tilt is significantly greater than the nose and ear angle suggest), and the amount of the upper ear fold that shows. The lighting and resolution of the camera are also different. His double chin has become smaller, but that would also be the effect of tilting your head backward and pushing your tongue to your palate. That's why all celebrities do that for red-carpet photo shoots. It may have worked, but that's really hard to tell.
In the field of psychology, this is called the "confirmation bias." It's when someone has pre-perceived notions about a topic and is testing a hypothesis "positively", i.e. they are looking out for details fitting their hypothesis, whilst ignoring the details that would possibly falsify it. It's part of the field of "heuristics and biases". Counter example: A left wing politics supporter has to go and analyze the stances and viewpoints of the right, reading both right wing and left wing newspaper articles. They will want to confirm their own views and give more credibility to the left wing articles, whilst sometimes even dismissing strong arguments from the right wing articles, simply to protect ones own ideals.
Yeah, that's what I see often in this community. I don't see any major changes, it looks like he adjusted his head posture and changed his jaw position slightly forward. Also the right tongue posture causes the hyoid to be pulled up- and backwards.
They have measurements, but feel that most youtubers would be bored silly with measurements -which unfortunately with their small attenyion spans (proven in studies) and only seeming to want to watch penises getting snapped by rat traps is unfortunately true. RUclips is not a scientific journal and if you would like to you can look that information up by paying for it in the corresponding medical journals where the research has been presented in detail.
Even if mewing didn’t really change the face, how can people deny the obvious benefits to health. Like, what do they propose is the best way to hold mouth posture for healthy breathing? They have no answers, they just like telling people theres no magic trick to getting hot lol
bro that's significant change. it's not the posture in the picture itself, BUT correct posture for a long duration had a great deal of the facial structure adjustment (for the better). it's noticeable in every part, the jaw, cheekbone, and forehead and nose.
When you take these comparison shots, you MUST ensure they're as identical as possible. Same position, same expression, if there's gonna be a haircut then wear a beanie etc. I can see a difference of maybe 1 mm but it's hard to tell cause the mouth isn't completely relaxed in both pics and the angle is slightly different. He has less chin fat in the profile pic, if I had to money on it, I'd say his jaw bone hasn't changed but the soft tissue has slightly and the lower jaw has come forward ~1 mm. I've never seen any super impressive results and they're never ideal comparison shots. I've used your mewing technique and it's definitely effective for correcting neck posture but I've yet to see a recessed chin grow into an ideal one. If you have a genuinely narrow palate, expect to need surgery to fix it. A useful tool but it's a supplement to surgery and devices, not a replacement. I have a narrow palate and a tongue which is way too big for my mouth. I've snored since I was 12 years old. I need\use a CPAP machine but by mewing as I'm falling to sleep, it seems to prevent me unconsciously swallowing air. I doubt mewing alone would cure my snoring but for a less severe case, it very possibly could. I probably would have been an ideal candidate for mewing as a child, a couple of years of asthma and allergies between toddler and pre-school left me with mouth breathing habits I didn't even notice til I was 12 when someone asked me why I chewed with my mouth open and I replied "Duh, to breathe!'. I've been prone to sinus\cluster headaches and have never felt like nose breathing during running gives me as much air as mouth breathing. *edit Ok, the guy is 27 years old, more than a mm of difference was probably unrealistic. At the very least, I doubt the guy has any neck or jaw pain after his mewing regime (ie cause his neck posture is optimal now). Also, you guys are orthodontists, you have the tools to measure changes to his facial structure, it's suspicious that you rely on the subjective 'eye test'.
The difference between Nick's before and after photos is more than just the movement of the bone and that subtlety is hard to put into numbers. Of course we take measurements too but we feel for these videos it is more important to show the difference as how the eye perceives it than to show numbers. I'm sorry if you feel it's suspicious, we think a picture tells more than a thousand words. Regards, the video team
I noticed the same thing..His neck is somewhat covered and he lost a bit of fat under his chin. There are noticeable improvements but the 2nd picture was very sloppy taken compared to the first one. And I'm not trying to throw shade here either.
I agree that better photos could be used, I personally assume this pandemic has created a chaos in everyone’s jobs and perhaps the video was prepared in a rush. Yet I should note that the fat you see on my chin, is actually my tongue. If anything, I have gained weight through the years rather than losing. Also I must point that I went through certain stages of treatment that include the biobloc appliance, not just mewing. Dr Mew if you are reading this thread, I suggest you make a comprehensive video on my treatment in the future.
Allot of people claim there is a massive improvement but the improvement is minor, the thing seen here is how a minor change can positively change one's appearance.
@supadox They are called 'sutures' and they function in much the same way as growth 'plates' ossify and 'close', so do sutures. In boys this 'closures' usually has occurred by age 17 although I'm reading now that around 5% of adult cadaver skulls show certain sutures had not fused. Actually, the more I'm looking into this not only the more complicated it is but there's multiple references to 'theory' ie some of this is up for debate. There are growth centers and growth 'sites' and they don't function the same way. I'll look into this further. Perhaps there is theory to support that facial remodelling can happen the way Dr Mew is suggesting it can in adults.
@@rainman11985 dont spew shit you dont even know anything about. Im 40 and i got results within a week, my overbite got better, then i have had changes every month, my whole face has changed, better jaw line, bigger middle face, my mouth is in the right possition etc..Some people that have not seen me for theese 8 months thought i had plastic surgery. Mewing works for all ages, just like mike himself stated. But on the other hand, i was a mouth breather and had a long face so the results was huge for me compared to a person that starts to mew with an already strong midle face and good jaw etc.
Well I've been mewing for about a year now and my cheekbones have really hollowed out. Honestly for the first time in a while, I can look in the mirror and be genuinely happy with what I see. However, I am 15 years old so this could be a loss in baby fat and I've been very sporty over the past 3 years, so that could have had an effect, I've never been remotely fat or anything, but most athletes have hollow cheekbones so take my story with a grain of salt.
Guys I don't know how far changes can go but I used t have hip dips and since I improved my posture specially while walking, they went away. My hips look more curved and feminine (same fat same muscles I mean Im no Kylie Jenner now) but changes in posture and function do reflect in structure and viceversa right? How could it not change the face or skull????
They're not so subtly trying to discredit Dr's John and Mike Mews discoveries and knowledge by using poor journalism and weak effort to understand the Mew practices. NY times made it like they're gonna write this great article on this huge discovery to get people's hopes up, then they just tanked the actual interpretation of data and case studies. This makes a lot of people expect an innovative, revolutionary treatment then walk away from the article saying "what a bunch of baloney"
This Nick guy actually said Mewing changed his bite and moved his lower mandible forward. Then he says no. I don't know what to think of this guy Nick.
Andrew C I wrote certain things here on various threads that anyone can see if they want to. It’s public. Your interpretation is not required. Best Regards.
I see a little nose lift . More defined cheekbones . Looks like his jaw dropped down . His neck posture for better Basically his face became more defined and it looks more lifted, while the jaw drops making his jaw look more defined . And imo he looks more youthful
Good eyes. His jaw did drop a little which is why i asked if his back teeth are touching. Most likely the facial muscles were relaxed and the jaw dropped. But this isn't permanent. Maybe his neck posture did get better but it is his bite problem that caused his bad posture in the first place. Not the other way around.
Th neck posture has greatly improved and there is an observable anterior growth of the mid-face. How could they pretend to not see it?!
dishonest crookery, that's how
@@craggerrs probably jealous
Bro his freaking canthal tilt even improved and the nose tip that's great change that Billy guy is a shill
An untrained eye, however the change is clearly there even to the untrained eye.
@@jacbug-7349 thats wt i was thinking
I am very impressed with how humble and sensible Nick is. It must be really hard to have your words misinterpreted and your improvements dismissed in such a public way. Nick is displaying a great philosophical attitude and intelligence here. And it goes without saying that you need be willfully blind not to see the visual changes in Nick's appearance.
Agreed. That he can relay his view and experience so clearly in under seven minutes yet was totally misconstrued in a NYT article shows what poor interviewing skills the journalist has/used.
Pity that NYT still has the same clout that it once deserved for hard hitting reporting, when they're now just writing whatever the check-signers tell them to.
not willingly blind, but unwillingly, involuntarily. you have to understand, most normies are incredible stupid people.
The change is absolutely massive. Journalists are the worst.
From utter subhuman to utter subhuman
Journalists have proved themself to be incompetent of there job in general in the last few years to me
@@slyradu you just have to be a bluepilled leftist to be a journalist
In the first before/after picture shown the change is a little difficult to see, although there is change there, and probably a lot to be seen by the trained eye.
In the second picture, it's so much clearer to all that there is an excellent change in the face, chin and jaw area and the neck (a much better, sharper contrast).
Perhaps the journalist only saw the first picture. If he saw the second it would be silly to report as he did.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, they may have a tight schedule, and don't quite have the moment to throughly think about how faces look at different angles (although these pictures were at he same angle...) or to give a good solid look at the two to notice the differences, in other words itnwould have to be extreme rather than simply significant for a rushed journalist to notice.
Then again it is kind of part of their job to actually know the details, and after a moment or two of observing the two pictures and with a familiarity with how faces move ect, it shouldn't take more than a few moments to at least get the idea that the two faces aren't the same (and that one looks healthier than the other), even if you can't pin down a reason...
So I half disagree and half agree with you.
Mike Mew hasn't even ever heard of me and he is to be thanked for making my face better looking. The world owes this man a Nobel prize
Before and after: jaw is completely different
The dude: NO.
Also look at his lips. It’s such a big difference. Great improvement.
It's kinda like when you don't notice your own height increase or subtle weight gain or weight loss. The change is gradual over a long period of time so you barely notice it.
@blazo king Yeah, the journalist is just being dishonest. I'm referring to Nick not noticing the change himself.
“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.” Voltaire
No wonder they're trying to discredit you...
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a 27 year old got this much results in 2 years. imagine how much it’s possible to achieve in 5 years, 10 years. imagine how much crazier the results are going to be if one starts at a younger age, especially in their teens or even younger
The Realist i think if a 15 year old with average (but not excellent) forward growth started mewing till they’re like 25, they’d reach their full genetic potential and wouldn’t really be able to see more results. my point is i believe it’s possible to reach your full genetic potential even if you didn’t start mewing when you were really young. keep mewing and don’t give up !
some people get nothing from it maybe whether it works or not is partially genetic
Glad younger people discover mewing and for the older people, be patient doing this. And remember: TEETH SHOULD REST AND NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER. Have a slight gap between your teeth while mewing so to speak relax your jaw. Looks stupid at first but it‘s natural. Correct me if i said something wrong.
I started a year ago, at 29. and with six months of practice, I no longer bit the sides of my tongue. for me there are no photos or comparisons capable of refuting 29 years of tongue being bitten. 😂
@@sikkojo wait what, I think I heard Dr. Mike says teeth should touch each other especially the molars!
It is evident to anyone with functioning eyes that his changes are significant. His facial proportions are more harmonious. If I had those results I'd be pleased as punch!
for real and i thought it was too late for me (19)
it's very obvious when you look at the jaw and his nose angle. but journalists, like most people, don't look at details, they are broad view thinkers and observers.
@@cagneybillingsley2165agree.
@@evans2267 No my brother stated it from 33 years. He is now 37 and has Giga chad jaws. Some of my friends started it when they were 25 years.
There's a clear difference in the pictures. His face changed. It was a good change. But like he said, the point was not to become a chad, but to become healthy.
“Chad” are you an incel?
@@masterbaiter7537 it was a joke relax
@@masterbaiter7537 Jumping in to call someone an incel to discredit what they're saying is not cool dude, it just shows your lack of intelligence.
@@masterbaiter7537 are you?
The word incel is among the most disrespectful terms used in online communities. This is a space of intellectual curiosity, like mentioned above, you sound incompetent.
People are entitled to their opinion just as I’m entitled to mine: the difference is considerable!
Agreed.
I am like him around his age. Suffered from terrible posture both body and tongue-face. Applied mewing for 3 years now and am aware of the great changes, never felt better. MIKE MEW YOU SAVED MY LIFE, YOU MADE ME LOOK BETTER AND I AM HEALTHIER TODAY THANK YOU.
The journalist came in with predetermined notions. He or she just wanted to make the process and the Mews look silly.
And yes, I can see a difference.
His jaw looks different what the hell is ny times talking about
Yeah there was less under jaw skin.
@@claudioestrella1160 exactly
Take everything the NY Times says, reverse it, and now you have the truth.
Lol, for post-age 25 after three years, these results are miraculous. No more second chin, farther protruding chin, more upright nose, mid face expansion, etc.
yeah. i don't know why some people are looking for extreme changes, when it only takes the slightest adjustments to go from so-so to great to hideous
How old was he when he started ?
NY times is probably sponsored ny the plastic surgery industry
Great response to the article, good choice of action Orthotropic team!
Nick seems like a pretty cool guy :D
THIS PROVES HOW BIASED AND SOLD OUT WESTERN MEDIA HAS BECOME. THATS WHY I HATE READING NEWSPAPER ARTICLES IN DETAILS. BECAUSE THE ARTICLES ARE FULL OF HATRED....IT IS LIKE THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED WHILE WRITING AN ARTICLE😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly, so much negativity and lies!!!
I’m a medical doctor with an interest in aesthetic medicine. There is definitely a change which is very pronounced in the side profile view.
Yes, he appears to have had good plastic surgery.... but he'd need rhinoplasty, botox around his jaw, chin implant at the very least to achieve it.
Yeah but Mike mew is monitoring him, I mean if you atleast even consider him a decent human being, these changes are all just from mewing@@bodyofhope
It's clear that the main stream media doesn't understand what mewing is about.
The most important benefits of mewing are not the aesthetics, but actually the improvements you don't see.
Breathing through the nose, correct posture. These two things have HUGE impacts on one's life.
Getting better cheekbones and becoming more attractive are just some sidegrades, not the main role.
Keep up the work Dr. Mew! You must know that the work you do is very important to a lot of people
Wow! Posture makes such a tremendous difference. His face really has grown forward too. It's quite remarkable. I need to work on my posture!!!
posture helps moves the jaw forward?
Yes but not just standing posture but oral posture too.@@skepticsphere5930
couldn't have said it better, if you start mewing because you want to look like an actor, you're on the wrong way and place. I started mewing because of the health benefits and I will keep doing it because of them. Greetings from Colombia Mr. Mew
It's an excellent tool for posture management.
Same mine was mostly health but When i saw results it went towards the looks 1,5 years of mewing even tho im in the same body fat my face looks much leaner and SO MUCH BETTER jaw
so much change man! this is so obviously a hit piece like come on!!! even on video i can see good under eye support
The lateral picture of him shows a dramatic change. There's no denying the treatment was very successful.
Mewing fucking works. It’s so frustrating when people try to discredit it when they’ve never done it. Orthodontists will literally attach expanders on people’s teeth to do the job that your tongue is supposed to! If expanders work why shouldn’t your tongue???
Also mike mew if you’re reading this thank you so much 🙏. I went from having constant sinus infections and noticeable lisp (due to not having enough space in my palate for my tongue) to having super clear nasal passages, no lisp, and saving myself from having to get my wisdom teeth removed. All in under a year (18-19 y/o). You’re a blessing.
Mewing definetly works. I started practicing it when I was 17,now I am 20,and my facial features changed tremendously, from an average face, I transformed into a beauty with prominent cheekbones, chiseled jaw, and a better developed midface. If your thinking of starting mewing, you should definitely do that, don't let sold-out media to discourage you from getting a well developed face naturally, with a capacity nature provided for us.
Are you a girl? Most results you see are from guys. So I'm curious if it works as well for girls.
@@K4113B4113 Good you mention it. We will try to make more patient case stories of girls and women. Regards, the video team
Huge difference
Im 40 and i got results within a week, my overbite got better, then i have had changes every month, my whole face has changed, better jaw line, bigger middle face, my mouth is in the right possition etc..Some people that have not seen me for theese 8 months thought i had plastic surgery. Mewing works for all ages, just like mike himself stated. But on the other hand, i was a mouth breather and had a long face so the results was huge for me compared to a person that starts to mew with an already strong midle face and good jaw etc.
Exactly. I got great results in least than a year too, And that is because a had a very bad posture.
It wasn't long at all to sort out a tmj issue for me, which was pleasantly surprising! 😁 A few weeks of at least doing lips and teeth together (I'm not sure I was doing the tongue posture properly all this time, but definitely made effort to keep it at roof of mouth), and I undid 20 years of jaw clicking when chewing - an issue which had gotten much worse to the point of locking in recent years. I thought I was going to need to see a dentist and get an operation or something to fix the problem, it was that bad before.
Do you have hollow cheeks by mewing? Please reply, thank you so much, lots of love xxx
@@charuseTV Oh, is it? Thank you so much. I don't want hollow cheeks that is why. I will mew it to have a better face. Wishing you all the best, lol xxx🥰😍🤩😘
i just turned 38 this month. i'd heard of mewing for at least three years, but i saw it repeated over and over that the benefits would be minimal if there were any at all after 25, so i never seriously pursued it. i just started this week with some targeted thumb pulling sessions (i cannot recommend this for everyone - as there seems to be some risk of injury from people using improper technique or too much force).... my face looks slightly rounder (where it was a little too long before). the biggest difference is in the shadows of the undereye bags which always made me look tired and unhappy... they've pretty much disappeared, as my cheeks are no longer as sunken in (which i have carried and suffered with for over a decade - gone in mere moments). it's like i had under eye filler done - except this fixed the underlying problem, not just try to mask it. people tell me i look 10 years younger than my age, but my eye bags always made me self-conscious.... now it's not even an issue. my jawline is still a problem, but as my maxilla progresses, i can see it looking more attractive in a few months (i think it would take about a quarter of an inch - give or take - of forward growth for my mandible to extend forward to the optimal position)
I am 26 yo and I've started mewing one and a half years ago. So far I'm seeing massive changes as my chin grew forward.
Do you have any comparsion pics and would like to share them ?
Im also 25 now and started mewing
Bless the day is stumbled upon a mike mew video and literally become 10x as attractive
The person who said they saw no difference probably wanted to see magic or plastic surgery result. I can clearly point out all the changes in the outside appearance. Jawline, chin, cheek all moved forward and because cheek improved, you can see a improvement in his droopy lower eyelid.
Now what more about his breathing? Pretty sure that improved alot too
I’ve seen plastic surgery with bone shaving that is more subtle than this and labeled as a success!
Mike Mew! Take that to court to prove your system works as well!!!
The change is more than just postural, he has a huge improvement in the jawline and cheekbones, looks fantastic
the side profile shows a great improvement - the lower half of his face filled in to balance out the nose
The changes are about as subtle as a transport truck coming down my street in the middle of the night.
I see a change! Improved posture is not only looks better, it is healthier! Nick did the work and got results.
Dr. Mew deserves an standing ovation. I already had a good square jawline but one day i started mewing (thinking it was bull.... but curiosity made me do it), 6 months later one morning i woke up, looked myself in the mirror and realized my jawline was massive (almost like Brad Pitt's)
If I were this dude I’d be way less chill about being labeled an incel 💔 he’s super level headed about the whole thing
He's been labeled an ince*? by the journalist? Do they even know what incels are, because this would be really bad judgement when judging from this video.
They need glasses,
My family say my cheekbones are more defined and my little double chin has gone. I was not ugly by any means. I've often been called pretty or very pretty but after a very serious bout of depression my posture got worse and worse over years. I look more like I did before my bad habits began. I simply wanted confidence again. Its amazing. Ny times are just propaganda like most media.
The journalist was really not willing to see the change.
Nick is very humble and polite. Amazing attitude.
Nice Vid! I've been following this for years and am getting a consultation for treatment in California with Dr. Berrios and Grace Sun
I've seen jaw advancement surgeries that have gotten far lesser results than this. I think the NY times reporter needs new prescription glasses.
I see a big change.
I always see orthodontist commercials when watching this channel.
I guess they don't want us to know the truth.
you can tell the chin tucking difference. for me, that’s the hardest thing to change & im almost getting there
Jar Head sealing my lips more with my cheekbones if that makes sense. i used to be a mouth breather due to allergies, so it’s hard to remind myself to keep my lips sealed. if you keep your chest up while chewing, the results are quicker & you can feel your skeleton going in place from a recessive chin. my bad habit at the moment is breathing through my nose with my mouth open. i used to just breathe through my mouth which is bad, so i’m slowly but surely getting there. it’s kinda hard to keep my lips sealed cause i have an overbite due to mouth breathing my whole life. my teeth have progressed & my overbite is damn near gone. chin to chest is the key, always keep your chest up! i was a sloucher my whole life & literally had a hunchback. now my back is straight, i’m just working on keeping my chin tucked in so i don’t have the recessive chin look which is my insecurity for my side profile. a reminder i like to keep in my head is “bite down” but of course with your teeth barely touching. remember when mewing your facial structure should be growing vertical, not horizontal!
NY Times was already before toilet paper to me. Now it‘s not even worth to be used as toilet paper.
Subtle? NO WAY. The mouth, cheeks, jaw are very different. The whole front, lower portion of his face has filled out dramatically!
wow 😲 I'm jealous 🥺 I'm older but this gives me hope 💖 thank you for sharing
@@pharoapex I lost my old phone when I started mewing maybe one day I'll find them and be able to compare because I don't have any picture to compare...so I can't really tell, but I find myself less ugly because at least now I know how to rest my tongue, anyway I used to have a lump on one side of my palate.. it was gone the first month of mewing !
Don’t believe mainstream media/the lies…of course it works!!! You look amazing!!!
I found Billy Brenner the New York Times journalist a nice guy and thought he was convinced about Orthotropics. I think he then got back to NY and asked a few orthodontists about it. They were so united in their criticism of Mike and me that he had second thoughts and began to doubt what I had shown and said to him. I must say I was hurt to be grouped with Incels. Prof John Mew.
Is this a real account
@@dumb4219 ye
@@dumb4219 yes
That is frustrating. I must say personally I am very impressed by your research and your willingness to question the status quo to find the truth and get real results.
There are thousands of people in comments saying how wonderful you are and how grateful they are. There are also many videos of people showing their results on the channels.
I suggested for Mike (in a comment which he might never see) that he has staff comb through the comments and screen shot the testimonials to use in court to back up your position if it is helpful. There are SO many.
My daughter included. She hated the gap in her front teeth and her really round cheeks. Mewing has improved both of those things in only a year. :)
So thank you!
I bet if you asked 100 random people to choose which photo is more attractive the result would overwhelmingly be for the right picture. The changes are subtle but it makes a big difference overall.
This is a one great explanation of an experience, very informative, thank you.
I am a fan of the results I have seen from all the cases the Mew's have shared. I have implemented their suggestions at home for our family and have noticed improvements even in my 38 year old face after a couple years of consistent effort and attention. That said, I am a stay at home mom so I expect I have more hours than most to practice the techniques and I am a highly motivated person so I practice faithfully. I really wish the broader orthodontic community would accept or at least compare their results to those of the Mew's for debate not just for them but for the betterment of all of us. As of now there are a very low number of orthotropic practitioners in most places and unfortunately, my experience has been that the supply/demand issue along with the reality that this is still considered a "fringe" treatment method has had at least some affect on the quality of service offered and the accountability of providers. I prepaid for what was to be a 24 month treatment for class II malocclusion for my son but now, eight months in (two of those due to office closures from COVID-19) we are still in the upper palate expansion (phase 1) part of treatment that was only supposed to last 3-4 months. Practitioner is now proposing additional fees that were not part of our original signed contract. My parents did not have this experience with a traditional orthodontist for me when I was a child and that is probably because there were so many orthodontists to choose from that no one would have stood for price gouging. Definitely believe in the Mew's process as an effective, if difficult, approach but feel there is lots of room for improvement and accountability in this field overall. I would suggest that for those beginning treatment, get a detailed fee schedule in writing up front that states not just the total cost of treatment but also a breakdown of what each phase of treatment costs including consultation, any appointment costs etc so that if at any time you feel you have to change practitioners (no one thinks they will have to do this when they are excited about beginning treatment) you will have some documentation to support a claim for a partial refund for those services or goods not yet rendered. At this point I have lost trust in my practitioner so we are moving on to a different provider. Since I prepaid for the entire treatment I am at the practitioner's mercy unless I take him to small claims court which I feel is distasteful. He is refunding me less than half the cost of my son's total treatment while having completed less than a quarter of agreed upon treatment. Hopefully sharing our story prevents someone else from an experience like ours.
Thank you. Beware indeed of people jumping the bandwagon and offer Orthotropic services. It's not a controlled field as it is largely rejected by the establishment. Regards, the video team
the best of this guy is his mentality. He is ok with his appearance, not getting crazy about his looks
It honestly looks like two different people. Structure is different, has nothing to do with handsome or not, that is surprising.
New york times has way more respect than it deserves
Right?! Half their crap is a bunch of bs. They got their reputation from way back when it was cool to blindly follow the big corporations in the 50’s. Not anymore.
Δεν μπορουσες να τα χες πει καλυτερα Νίκο!
Couldn't have said it better Nick!
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try sleeping on your back without a pillow combined with mewing, so you can lose this last bit of loose skin under your chin and after a week or so you'll literally start feeling muscle on your face
Dont do it if you're trying to look like a Hollywood actor do it for health. Thats a bar
He seems like such a nice guys too, really humble
posture is improved
better and longer jawline
better and more forward chin
change is not dramatic but contribute to a massive improvement in the overall look, ask any person they would say the second pic look significantly better
A lot of the people commenting on the growth that is there are referring to anterior growth.
The reporter sounds like he was just looking for width.
Tbh I think that id be happy to even have that level of anterior growth.
The science would rather virgin shame...? Also, props to my man for setting the record straight. He's got Chad energy and everyone knows it.
I see a change for the better!
His facial posture has changed alot
NY Times is inept. Don’t expect very much from them…
Nick had a substantial change. Its impressive
This reminds me of highschool, I was also picked on by friends cause of my posture, especially while walking :D I'm so gald they did, I ended up fixing it in a few months.
2:09 its wierd because in a way the change is subtle but somehow theres a bit more jawline a better chin the nose looks better he looks way better
If you presented the pictures differently to the journo and said these were twin brothers, he would a) be able to notice the difference with ease, and b) be willing to predict which brother was more assertive, more successful, etc.
The change is subtle but I think it’s very noticeable and for the better
Don't trust anyone's claims. Screenshot the two faces, line them up on eachother in Photoshop or Krita, use the forehead as your fixed mark for rotation and scaling. Assuming he had closed jaws in both photos, his chin moved forward a few millimeters. But again, don't trust me; screenshot and overlay the images yourself to see what the difference actually looks like.
Cope
How was the change achieved ? Question of the year... we want to know all details
I think it's just mewing and posture
@@max8784 I dont think so, Id say expander + training device to ensure posture. maybe some face mask. + 100% what u said
Nick has said in other comments he received treatment which included the biobloc.
Thanks for the video. Amazing.
As soon as i saw this video i placed my tongue up on the palate 😂
That journalist needs his eyes checked lol
I'm doing mewing too, and although it's not even a year I already have significant changes, and the reason for these so rapid results is because I had a very bad posture. I'm 19 though.
Do you look like a model by now bro? am 19 and i'm just starting to mew.
@@ShadowZx22 I'm not a model but I believe I do look good and I feel good about the way I look now, which didn't happen before. It has been one of the best things I've been doing ever.
The problem is that he's leaning his head backward. One can see that from the angle of his nose and ear. The picture to the left is also taken from a lower angle than the one to the right. One can see that from the relative height of the eye and ear (either that, or the backward tilt is significantly greater than the nose and ear angle suggest), and the amount of the upper ear fold that shows. The lighting and resolution of the camera are also different. His double chin has become smaller, but that would also be the effect of tilting your head backward and pushing your tongue to your palate. That's why all celebrities do that for red-carpet photo shoots.
It may have worked, but that's really hard to tell.
In the field of psychology, this is called the "confirmation bias." It's when someone has pre-perceived notions about a topic and is testing a hypothesis "positively", i.e. they are looking out for details fitting their hypothesis, whilst ignoring the details that would possibly falsify it. It's part of the field of "heuristics and biases".
Counter example: A left wing politics supporter has to go and analyze the stances and viewpoints of the right, reading both right wing and left wing newspaper articles. They will want to confirm their own views and give more credibility to the left wing articles, whilst sometimes even dismissing strong arguments from the right wing articles, simply to protect ones own ideals.
Yeah, that's what I see often in this community. I don't see any major changes, it looks like he adjusted his head posture and changed his jaw position slightly forward. Also the right tongue posture causes the hyoid to be pulled up- and backwards.
They have measurements, but feel that most youtubers would be bored silly with measurements -which unfortunately with their small attenyion spans (proven in studies) and only seeming to want to watch penises getting snapped by rat traps is unfortunately true.
RUclips is not a scientific journal and if you would like to you can look that information up by paying for it in the corresponding medical journals where the research has been presented in detail.
Even if mewing didn’t really change the face, how can people deny the obvious benefits to health. Like, what do they propose is the best way to hold mouth posture for healthy breathing? They have no answers, they just like telling people theres no magic trick to getting hot lol
I don't care how I look,I love myself..
bro that's significant change. it's not the posture in the picture itself, BUT correct posture for a long duration had a great deal of the facial structure adjustment (for the better). it's noticeable in every part, the jaw, cheekbone, and forehead and nose.
I can see the differences
His face has gone from rounded with no chin, to looking much more formed. How can anyone not see any difference from those two pics?
That's a great change!
When you take these comparison shots, you MUST ensure they're as identical as possible. Same position, same expression, if there's gonna be a haircut then wear a beanie etc. I can see a difference of maybe 1 mm but it's hard to tell cause the mouth isn't completely relaxed in both pics and the angle is slightly different. He has less chin fat in the profile pic, if I had to money on it, I'd say his jaw bone hasn't changed but the soft tissue has slightly and the lower jaw has come forward ~1 mm. I've never seen any super impressive results and they're never ideal comparison shots. I've used your mewing technique and it's definitely effective for correcting neck posture but I've yet to see a recessed chin grow into an ideal one. If you have a genuinely narrow palate, expect to need surgery to fix it. A useful tool but it's a supplement to surgery and devices, not a replacement.
I have a narrow palate and a tongue which is way too big for my mouth. I've snored since I was 12 years old. I need\use a CPAP machine but by mewing as I'm falling to sleep, it seems to prevent me unconsciously swallowing air. I doubt mewing alone would cure my snoring but for a less severe case, it very possibly could. I probably would have been an ideal candidate for mewing as a child, a couple of years of asthma and allergies between toddler and pre-school left me with mouth breathing habits I didn't even notice til I was 12 when someone asked me why I chewed with my mouth open and I replied "Duh, to breathe!'. I've been prone to sinus\cluster headaches and have never felt like nose breathing during running gives me as much air as mouth breathing.
*edit Ok, the guy is 27 years old, more than a mm of difference was probably unrealistic. At the very least, I doubt the guy has any neck or jaw pain after his mewing regime (ie cause his neck posture is optimal now).
Also, you guys are orthodontists, you have the tools to measure changes to his facial structure, it's suspicious that you rely on the subjective 'eye test'.
The difference between Nick's before and after photos is more than just the movement of the bone and that subtlety is hard to put into numbers. Of course we take measurements too but we feel for these videos it is more important to show the difference as how the eye perceives it than to show numbers. I'm sorry if you feel it's suspicious, we think a picture tells more than a thousand words. Regards, the video team
I noticed the same thing..His neck is somewhat covered and he lost a bit of fat under his chin.
There are noticeable improvements but the 2nd picture was very sloppy taken compared to the first one.
And I'm not trying to throw shade here either.
I agree that better photos could be used, I personally assume this pandemic has created a chaos in everyone’s jobs and perhaps the video was prepared in a rush. Yet I should note that the fat you see on my chin, is actually my tongue. If anything, I have gained weight through the years rather than losing. Also I must point that I went through certain stages of treatment that include the biobloc appliance, not just mewing. Dr Mew if you are reading this thread, I suggest you make a comprehensive video on my treatment in the future.
@@Do4Love71 he hasn't lost fat, since the mandible is more forward the fat is spread and flattened under the chin, its a great improvement
@@nickrabbitson1821 thanks for the clarity!
Been mewing for for 6 months. Absolutely zero difference so far.
Allot of people claim there is a massive improvement but the improvement is minor, the thing seen here is how a minor change can positively change one's appearance.
To be fair, the guy is 27 years old. His growth plates\sutures have closed. ANY change is note worthy.
@supadox They are called 'sutures' and they function in much the same way as growth 'plates' ossify and 'close', so do sutures. In boys this 'closures' usually has occurred by age 17 although I'm reading now that around 5% of adult cadaver skulls show certain sutures had not fused.
Actually, the more I'm looking into this not only the more complicated it is but there's multiple references to 'theory' ie some of this is up for debate. There are growth centers and growth 'sites' and they don't function the same way. I'll look into this further. Perhaps there is theory to support that facial remodelling can happen the way Dr Mew is suggesting it can in adults.
@@rainman11985 dont spew shit you dont even know anything about. Im 40 and i got results within a week, my overbite got better, then i have had changes every month, my whole face has changed, better jaw line, bigger middle face, my mouth is in the right possition etc..Some people that have not seen me for theese 8 months thought i had plastic surgery. Mewing works for all ages, just like mike himself stated. But on the other hand, i was a mouth breather and had a long face so the results was huge for me compared to a person that starts to mew with an already strong midle face and good jaw etc.
@@stephaniesamson139 but you had a good face before i asume
@@Natty5D didn’t you read the whole comment. She said literally that she was a mouth breather and had a worse face than normal. Lol
Well I've been mewing for about a year now and my cheekbones have really hollowed out. Honestly for the first time in a while, I can look in the mirror and be genuinely happy with what I see.
However, I am 15 years old so this could be a loss in baby fat and I've been very sporty over the past 3 years, so that could have had an effect, I've never been remotely fat or anything, but most athletes have hollow cheekbones so take my story with a grain of salt.
"...I've been very sporty over the past 3 years, so that could have had an effect..." LOL...that's exactly what happened here to this guy Nick.
Guys I don't know how far changes can go but I used t have hip dips and since I improved my posture specially while walking, they went away. My hips look more curved and feminine (same fat same muscles I mean Im no Kylie Jenner now) but changes in posture and function do reflect in structure and viceversa right? How could it not change the face or skull????
Well, that’s not surprising since NY Times can’t see the difference between a male and a female, either.
Can someone tell me what is the The Bottom Line that NYTIMES are saying about mewing
They're not so subtly trying to discredit Dr's John and Mike Mews discoveries and knowledge by using poor journalism and weak effort to understand the Mew practices. NY times made it like they're gonna write this great article on this huge discovery to get people's hopes up, then they just tanked the actual interpretation of data and case studies. This makes a lot of people expect an innovative, revolutionary treatment then walk away from the article saying "what a bunch of baloney"
These journalists are clearly saying what others want them to say.
Mewing ruined my face :/
i wish i never found out about mewing
Yea i wish i never found out about it either
Wht r u talking about guyys?
This Nick guy actually said Mewing changed his bite and moved his lower mandible forward. Then he says no. I don't know what to think of this guy Nick.
Andrew C I wrote certain things here on various threads that anyone can see if they want to. It’s public. Your interpretation is not required. Best Regards.
On the side view you can see his Gonial angle has Grown much better
I see A LOT of difference. This is the perfect example of a journalist changing facts to try to prove his theory.
Love this channel.
Excellent research!
I see a little nose lift . More defined cheekbones . Looks like his jaw dropped down . His neck posture for better Basically his face became more defined and it looks more lifted, while the jaw drops making his jaw look more defined . And imo he looks more youthful
Good eyes. His jaw did drop a little which is why i asked if his back teeth are touching. Most likely the facial muscles were relaxed and the jaw dropped. But this isn't permanent. Maybe his neck posture did get better but it is his bite problem that caused his bad posture in the first place. Not the other way around.
The difference is clear!
amazing changes. how is it achieved? use neck gear?