Maybe it's just me but not long after Dumbledore walking off in the last scene; Dumbledore's line " you're never alone as long as you have friends" Not said but IMHO is when he realizes that.
Grind must have been able to really lay down the lap ham in his youth. Dumb can't get over him.. even though grind had literally murdered little children..
Things I didn’t like: 1) Tina getting sidelined 2) The revelation of Credence/Aurelius being Aberforth’s son happening in casual conversation 3) Confirmation of Ariana being an obscurial in the same casual conversation 4) Breaking the blood pact so easily, almost accidentally 5) The chilling bowing to Dumbledore didn’t make sense, Dumbledore himself has admitted his fatal mistakes and flaws. Bowing to Newt, or even Jacob, would’ve been more suitable 6) Yusuf Kama is kinda just there. Actually, without Leta Lestrange I don’t think he has much to add to the plot.
Agreed. I also don't really like how Dumbledore talk abt love with Grindelwald. It was too plain and given their complicated relationship, I was expecting something more delicate and elaborate. Also, it is unlike Dumbledore to speak of something such as love in such plain language. Likewise, impt details such credence being Aberforth son being told through dialogue and exposition could definitely have been done better with the screenwriting.
Agree with all your points except 4. The Blood pact was extremely hard for Dumbledore to break as evidenced by his attempts to defy it. It only started cracking or the magic unraveling when both of their intents collided magically in spells used for/against Credence. It’s because Dumbledore has finally sided with family over his only lover. He has the full intent to stop Grindelwald and has overcome his past. The past will continue to haunt him but like he said it’s fate because he’s committed to a sense of duty and greater love for other wizards and muggles. The reason the qillin bows to him despite his flaws and past mistakes is because this is an Albus Dumbledore who has cast aside ego in favor of helping others. This is the same Dumbledore who gives his life later to save Draco and works with Snape and others to stop Voldemort through one thing Tom never had - selfless love.
Throughout this movie Albus and Aberforth seem pretty close, which is a far-cry from their relationship decades later when they weren't even on speaking terms. In fact it seems like at this point Albus regularly goes to see Aberforth at his home and at the Hog's Head, despite the fact that we are lead to believe he still holds a grudge over Albus for what happened to Arianna. My guess is what will actually strain Albus's relationship with Aberforth has something to do with Credence. Now that Aberforth has his son back, he will undoubtedly want to do everything he can to save his life and to protect him. So my theory is that in the next movie, Gellert has some way to save Credence from dying from the obscurial. He offer Albus to cure Credence if he agrees to join his side. Albus of course refuses, but Aberforth desperate to save his son pleads with Albus to reconsider, and while Albus maybe tempted, he ultimately cannot bring himself to become compromised. So instead Credence dies, and a grief stricken Alberforth goes back to hating his older brother and holding him responsible for everyone they love meeting a tragic end, thus the Dumbledore brothers relationship becomes strained and remains that way for decades.
Huh. Now that you're pointed out, you're right. A. and D. seems to be on good terms for now, but in future we know that they're not. So.. I think you could be right about Credence. 👍👍
Dude, they were on good terms during the hp saga, Aberforth was part of the Order of the Phoenix. And I don't think we'll see Credence again, there's just too much drama with the actress Ezra Miller
Aberforth and Albus were working together during the Harry Potter books though and Aberforth definitely still holds a grudge against Albus. You can tell during that dinner scene.
They swore an oath not to fight each other. But when they casted their spells to kill and the other to protect, the pact crumbled because the two spells that collided were from the one's who made the pact. Both of them launched an attack at each other without directly knowing it. And so, both violated their non aggression oath, and the blood pact becoming irrelevant.
So... how about you watch the explanation that movie flame gave, or the one they gave in the actual movie without saying anything else about whatever it is you're trying to prove...
@@lucyislight9949 Yeah, they gave it, then totally ignored it. Defence is not an aggression, and funnily enough, they gave an explanation in this video aswell, I don't understand how this doesn't make sense to everybody.
The oath was not to fight each other. Why would that pact be voided because their spells touched without aggression? Either they fought each other or they didn't, so they either broke the oath or didn't, nothing voided it. Bad writing.
When I heard the news that it was Mads who would play the new Grindelwald, I immediately said, "You can condemn him, this movie, but damn it, look at him in action! ". This person can play with only his eyes. He's incredible.
I feel like Newt, Jacob, and the gangs story has concluded on a satisfying ending. I’d love to see one more film with Dumbledore going after Grindelwald for a final confrontation.
I think Queenie and Jacob's relationship was very rushed, they didn't see each other for several years, then are reunited at the restaurant where they see each other for one scene and don't even talk, then they meet once in the finale and don't even get along that well, and after that everything goes back to the first movie and they get married in the next scene
I really liked this, so I hope we get more movies. From where we left of at the end of this movie I would be fine with just 1 more movie, but the problem is that this movie takes place in the early 1930s and the famous duel between Grindelwald and Dumbledore is in 1945.
There story didn't really get wrapped up tho this was kinda just a filler movie with the set up for the last 2 with the breaking of the blood pack and the only other question that was truly answered was who is barboon
It was so weird we didn’t see thesus grieve about leta at all. All the human and relatable emotions were barely explored. What I loved about the Hp books is that yes it’s a magical world but it focuses on human things we all experience. Family loss, bullying and friendship. Here they had those themes but they were no where near explored
I think that might be because of the time gap. The second movie took place in 1927, and according to the synopsis, this one took place in 1932. Theseus did grieve, just not on-screen. (That being said, a flashback would've been nice.)
Tbh I just want him to find love again. Leta wasn’t really dedicated to him. I know it’s awful she passed but she eventually didn’t choose him. He deserves better, and I hope it’s Eulalie tbh.
can't wait for your explanation on the battle between albus and credence. this movie was so confusing in so many ways so I want to see some discussions and breaksowns before my second viewing.
@@SMDC2000 probably cause this idea just plopped up before filming the movie. I am also very confused about what and how it happened and the whole scene just reminds me of Doctor Strange and the whole multiverse thing. When filming Harry Potter years ago, nobody thought of this and they just used this idea now even though it is completely confusing and doesn‘t make sense with the storyline of Harry defeating/ fighting Voldemort.
Probably a spell by Dumbledore that fakes reality , like a very strong concealment charm which fakes everything around , he does do some hanky panky to the mirror in the shop . What I don't understand is the duel with Grindelwald , why did that happen in mirror verse when no one actually cast any spell n yet no one but Albus n Grindy seemed to be able to see the duel as they fought
I feel like when Newt says that he will do it again is not only a line for the character in the movie, but it’s a nod for Redmayne to continue in the magic of this role along with a nod for the audience’s desire to see more adventures after this film. I think the general audience, myself included, is here to see and support more wizarding world adventures so long as the material isn’t a complete dump truck fire
What the we need to worry about more is people refusing to go and see #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore all because of her comments; I’d highly encourage and recommend everyone [please Encourage as many other people as you can as well please :-) See it as many times as they can in theaters, and even If possible,buy a ticket for it In place of going to see another movie so that way it still gets money without you actually having to see it multiple times. Buying as many merchandise directly related to it as possible will also truly help. Also remember that if you’re refusing to see it because of #JohnnyDeppIsMyGrindelwald Then please remember that this movie needs to do well so as to give Johnny the chance to actually come back in the Later movies, For the actor who played MacNair The executioner was re-casted for prisoner of Azkaban and then came back for order of the Phoenix. The bottom line is that if #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore Doesn’t do well, And they don’t make the remaining two movies,then Johnny definitely will never be back as Grindelwald!Plus you also have to remember that it’s about to be a new company with new people over seeing it, So as such you were technically not paying that company and are actually giving more of a chance than not having him actually return. Especially depending on what may happen with the results of his trial that’s going to be happening shortly after the movie comes out, the new people taking over Warner Bros. right before it comes out…… Also remember in regards to her that she doesn’t necessarily get a whole lot of money from this, as well the fact remains that as many people have pointed out that she already has so much money that not supporting the series will not really change any kind of “power“ that you may have against her, and after all the series should not suffer at all because of her for Regardless of what you may think, nothing I repeat nothing will ever ever truly take away what a series overall truly means to you let alone other people, And again it’s not The series that’s the problem at all in any kind of way :-) Also keep in mind that even though it’s not the best example they have at least one transgender person or someone who identifies themselves as “They” in the cast so much for her transphobia……
@@SuperMoviemaster21 The real problem is that WB treats fans like a cash cow. I have far less trouble with either of the above reasons that WB only caring about $$$$.
@@COmtnLady Again, don’t forget that even though of course it’s all still a business overall, discovery now owns WB so the people in charge may think a little bit differently, As for example from what I’ve been hearing they seem quite keen to restore the Snyder verse for example, even regardless of what’s going on with the flash, so if enough of us support these movies, then more than maybe something might actually happen with them/door at the very least be able to continue :-)
While this ending was alright, I would've actually preferred it if Grindelwald had won this time round, remaining as Supreme Mugwump, but having Newt's speech about the dead Qilin cause the general population to doubt Grindelwald's legitimacy, whilst also having Dumbledore's followers doubt his ability to defeat Grindelwald. The idea of having doubtful and disloyal followers on both sides could've made for an interesting topic to cover in the next movie, but alas, it was never meant to be...
@@suburbancarwash209 i think whether the next film is happening or not depends on the box office and the ratings of the film the rotten tomatoes audience score is aready out and its pretty high
Regardless of who the Qillin chose, they need to explain why the Supreme Mugump post is so important all of a sudden as well. In the book (HP 5), they mentioned that Dumbledore was the Supreme Mugwump untill he lost the post after the Voldemort is Back situation. But didnt rly mention anything Dumbledore did as the Supreme Mugwump. In fact, it wasn't even portrayed as of much importance at all. How come Dumbledore had no control over the Doleres situation as a Supreme Mugwump for example. Or how would Fudge even think that the Supreme Mugwomp would want to steal his position as the Minister of Magic which is far inferior to the Supreme Mugwump. If Dumbledore was the most powerful (by rank as the Supreme Mugwump) in the world, how come he had to obey all sorts of commands by the Ministry of Magic UK and werent even like a celebrity like Supreme Mugwumps are portrayed in this movie (FB 3). This rly need to be explained.
I understand you guys but it wasn't even mentioned other than that incident in the book for HP5. Not even once in the movies at all. Especially if it is such an honor in the wizarding world, for a position with so much power and publicity, it really doesnt make sense that nobody even mentioned him as such. I know they had to modify the plot and twist and turn their stories for the FB series but come on. If my professor was the Supreme Mugwump, I think I would at least call him by that title or at least mention about it/hear others mention about it more than once over a decade. Even on the Chocolate frog cards or the Daily Prophet article on Dumbledore did not mention about him being/having been the Supreme Mugwump once.
I really like that Grindelwald is such a complex villain, and that there's something very human about him. Voldemort just seemed straight-up evil, which is fun on screen, but he lacked the depth and intrigue of Grindelwald.
Personally, i think it would have been super cool if the Qilin bowed to Kowalski and he was elected. Would have most definitely created a huge rift in the wizarding world, setting the stage for a huge war. On one hand, he is pure of heart and possibly the right leader, on the other hand, he is a muggle. Would have turned the two sides into extremes and given grindlewald an even larger base of supporters.
@@reanalysaa6430 I mean, it could have been a great way to have him grow more as a character. Become a leader and grow a spine, but meanwhile, his ineptness stemming from his unknowning of the wizarding world could be great in not only making him doubt himself, which would serve as a backdrop to great character development, but also, a more or less failed Kowalski Cabinet could even further divide the Wizarding world, even turning Grindlewalds most moderate followers into extremist. But that's just wishful thinking, lol.
Regardless of who the Qillin chose, they need to explain why the Supreme Mugump post is so important all of a sudden as well. In the book (HP 5), they mentioned that Dumbledore was the Supreme Mugwump untill he lost the post after the Voldemort is Back situation. But didnt rly mention anything Dumbledore did as the Supreme Mugwump. In fact, it wasn't even portrayed as of much importance at all. How come Dumbledore had no control over the Doleres situation as a Supreme Mugwump for example. Or how would Fudge even think that the Supreme Mugwomp would want to steal his position as the Minister of Magic which is far inferior to the Supreme Mugwump. If Dumbledore was the most powerful (by rank as the Supreme Mugwump) in the world, how come he had to obey all sorts of commands by the Ministry of Magic UK and werent even like a celebrity like Supreme Mugwumps are portrayed in this movie (FB 3). This rly need to be explained.
@@buihelgason I agree, it would have made for an interesting plot arc and he as leader could have grown into the role with tutoring from Dumbledore and Newt, kind of like how Dumbledore coached Harry.
Whoa I didn't think this much of the end part while watching the film! Don't get me wrong, I'm a potter head and understood everything but when you explained how Dumbledore was all alone, that part now has so much depth for me now..nicely explained
One of the things that I noticed in this movie is that they're in Germany when they're talking about the whole International Confederation of Wizards election. And if I remember correctly from History, it was also around this time that Germany was undergoing massive radical changes as I assume that this takes place in the 1930s. Would've been interesting to see that.
Well from what I understand, the next series events regarding Grindelwald roughly coincides with World War 2 in the Muggle World. I would imagine an event of the same scale happened in the Wizarding world at the same time.
@@thebegleyshow3320 It’s honestly interesting when you think about it. Especially in history with Germany being the Weimar Republic and had to suffered a weak government and a lot of elections were called and government changes almost happening every few years with a new Chancellor up until 1933 when Hitler was appointed with him manipulating his supporters as being a great elegant speaker by his supporters winning his party seats and a majority. Which was what we basically saw in this movie with them having an election for the International Confederation of Wizards. And saw Grindelwald be more manipulative to his supporters, and gaining new ones which we saw in a few scenes with the rallies. And as well saw Anton Vogel brushing off any warnings of him growing to power, and believing he couldn’t win and literally allowing Grindelwald off of all charges for his crimes. Which was similar to basically Von Hindenburg and other government officials in the Reichstag brushing off warnings and just thinking they can use him by keeping him in a weaker position of power with him being chancellor which we all know would backfired. Again kind of interesting on how closely this resembles Germany in the early 1930’s which the third film is set in, and honestly what would be happening if the fourth film mentions those events as we are leading up to World War II and the final battle with Dumbledore and Grindelwald at the end of the war in 1945 which would be obviously happening fifth and final film. Sorry if this was long.
The part where it mirrors Grindelwald, Aberforth and Dumbledore's battle would've been much more impactful if the film had a flashback scene on when him, Aberforth and Grindelwald fought that lead to Ariana's death.
On one level of identifying an abuser, of course Grindelwald checks off some major marks, the most obvious being he says whatever people want to hear to gain their trust. That said, I particularly found it triggering when he asked Dumbledore, "who will love you now??" which is a common tactic they use. It's like a personal attack/insult as a last resort to keep their "victim" down and "in their place" to sum it up. When a manipulative person loses their power, watch them spiral with weak jabs. Happens all the time.
It seemed to me that it was rather not "Who will love you now?" but "Who will love me now?". He projected his feelings, his fear of losing the one and only person who truly loves him, onto Dumbledore. Breaking the blood pact meant for both of them that they were no longer bound by anything. And obviously, for Grindelwald, this is something that hurts him. Jeez, he didn't even really try to kill Dumbledore, they used mostly Expeliarmus and Stupefy. And their last spells, which they directed at each other when they touched each other's hearts, were the harmless Expeliarmus. When Dumbledore turned away from him, leaving him again, he felt resentment, pain, fear that no one else would love him, that he would be all alone. If it was Johnny Depp's Grindelwald, I'd say that it was definitely manipulation. But Mads' Grindelwald seems capable of love, and in his words to Dumbledore I did not hear mockery
Movieflame you are honestly so awesome. You explain things soooo well and the amount of time and effort you put into ur videos is fantastic. Will always love ur work!😀😀
CORRECTION at 3:36. Dumbledore didn't reply that he was all alone. It was Grindelwald who said that line following his initial question, "Who will love you now, Dumbledore?" This is important because Dumbledore would rather choose to be alone than join forces with a murderer just to have a boyfriend. Dumbledore has solid morals, and this is why the Qilin bowed to him.
Agreed, although I think you significantly reduce the importance of their love. It wasn't just about "having a boyfriend." Dumbledore loved Grindelwald, maybe even till that moment. But he decided to put aside his personal feelings for the greater good. Ultimately, he achieved the goal that he had set for himself in his teens, just in a different way than Grindelwald wanted to.
I was curious if we got to see Voldemort as a child or young teenager unless I got the timeline wrong but I think it would have been awesome to see say chamber of secrets from their perspective in this movie (I haven’t seen the movie )
Tom Riddle opened the chamber 2 years before Dumbledore's final defeat of Grindelwald, so there's a chance we see him at Hogwarts. It would also be nice if we get to see Newt give an unhatched Aragog to young Hagrid.
If the movie series goes by what is on Pottermore then the earliest we would see any sign of Voldemort at Hogwarts is in the following movies (if there are any.) We KNOW Tom Riddle didn't start Hogwarts until 1938 and that he graduated in the beginning of 1945. Secrets of Dumbledore takes place in 1932-1933 meaning that Voldemort wasn't at Hogwarts at this time. However considering they have McGonagall teaching at Hogwarts before she was even born (she started teaching supposedly in 1956 when she was /21 yrs old/) according to Pottermore? For all we know one of the little Slytherin boys who gave Jacob cockroach clusters was supposed to be the then Tom Riddle. Before anyone says "It could be her ancestor though!" In regards to the McGonagall bit. First off in Secrets of Dumbledore he talks to her at the door of the Hog's Head and CALLS HER MINERVA. Secondly she is a half blood who's father is a MUGGLE. Thus, before her mother (by marriage) and her siblings there were no McGonagalls in the wizarding world! Also her mother was named Isobel NOT Minerva and didn't tell Minerva's father about being a witch until AFTER Minerva was born. She was of course born in 1935 which is 2-3 years AFTER the events of this Secrets of Dumbledore!) She is purely fan service. Which means they could make Tom Riddle start school just a few years earlier for pure fan service too if they wanted.
forget dumbledore and grindelwald. we want a "the wizard in the hopping pop, babbity rabbity, and the cackling stump" spin-off series. The spin-offs we all deserve.
I cannot wait to see the big duel between Albus and Gellet. It was mentioned in the Harry Potter books and was known as the greatest duel of all time. Harry and Voldemorts final duel is not overly great to watch since Voldemort lost his horcruxes so he was weakened. They basically just pointed their wands at each other and that was it. I am hoping the one between Albus and Gellert is more like Albus' and Voldemort's duel in the fifth movie ( order of the Phoenix) with different CGI spells like the dragon or large ball instead of two single streams just pointed at each other.
What the we need to worry about more is people refusing to go and see #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore all because of her comments; I’d highly encourage and recommend everyone [please Encourage as many other people as you can as well please :-) See it as many times as they can in theaters, and even If possible,buy a ticket for it In place of going to see another movie so that way it still gets money without you actually having to see it multiple times. Buying as many merchandise directly related to it as possible will also truly help. Also remember that if you’re refusing to see it because of #JohnnyDeppIsMyGrindelwald Then please remember that this movie needs to do well so as to give Johnny the chance to actually come back in the Later movies, For the actor who played MacNair The executioner was re-casted for prisoner of Azkaban and then came back for order of the Phoenix. The bottom line is that if #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore Doesn’t do well, And they don’t make the remaining two movies,then Johnny definitely will never be back as Grindelwald!Plus you also have to remember that it’s about to be a new company with new people over seeing it, So as such you were technically not paying that company and are actually giving more of a chance than not having him actually return. Especially depending on what may happen with the results of his trial that’s going to be happening shortly after the movie comes out, the new people taking over Warner Bros. right before it comes out…… Also remember in regards to her that she doesn’t necessarily get a whole lot of money from this, as well the fact remains that as many people have pointed out that she already has so much money that not supporting the series will not really change any kind of “power“ that you may have against her, and after all the series should not suffer at all because of her for Regardless of what you may think, nothing I repeat nothing will ever ever truly take away what a series overall truly means to you let alone other people, And again it’s not The series that’s the problem at all in any kind of way :-) Also keep in mind that even though it’s not the best example they have at least one transgender person or someone who identifies themselves as “They” in the cast so much for her transphobia……
Yup the wizarding movies haven't been able to recreate that fight since Order of Phoenix. I don't even know how harry won. If voldemort used those spells harry would have a hard time.
Did anyone else think that the giant monster in the lake of hogwarts could have grown from the piece that came with Theseus from the prison i mean the books said it was a calamari but no one actually ever saw the full of it
this review video is the best i’ve come cross on youtube and i was myself thinking of the duel in parallel how now this time a dumbledore’s saved versus killed, which in some senses should bring redemption to albus and aberforth. the ending scene was heartbreaking how albus was close to happiness yet consumed in dark loneliness as he walked into the black nights, which corresponded to him telling grindelwald how he’s all alone after the duel. you’ve earned yourself a new follower sir!
Dumbledore doesn’t want it now, but during the HP timeline he is the Supreme Mugwump. So I think he eventually realizes that he is good, and is the right person for the job.
I’m really hoping you’re right about it being that Dumbledore was protecting family and that’s why it broke, bc if it didn’t need to be Credence, then imo it really hurts the importance of his character
It was such a beautiful movie! When Aurelius/Credence asks his father whether he ever thought of him, I intuitively thought he would say, "Always " And when Aberforth did say just that, I was beside myself with joy! One little word, but J.K. Rowling invested it with so much weight!
Wow. I think you are right! I didn't understand when I watched the film why blood pact pendant suddenly broke, but with yours explaining I get it now. Blood pact was between Albus and Grindelwald to never fight/kill/harm each other. But Grindelwald cast a killing spell at Credence, who are half Dumbledore and Albus cast a protection spell against Grindelwald'sGrindelwald's at the same time.
Is Dumbledore who replies "I am all alone"? I've seen the movie twice already, in Spanish, and I feel sure that at least in the Spanish dub is Gellert the one who says "Who would love you know Dumbledore? You're all alone"...
Considering the film feels like a solid ending for the Fantastic Beasts characters (Dumbledore can fight Grindlewald now so doesn't need them as much, and they seem pretty happy at the end), I feel this is the perfect time to do what they should have done from the beginning: Rename the next film to ALBUS DUMBLEDORE and the something something something. I feel Dumbledore's story is the main crutch of the story and the most compelling part of these past two films. The Fantastic Beasts aspect felt forced past the first one. So now, with it ending on a shot of Dumbledore, and the pact is broken, JUST MAKE THE FOURTH FILM HIS FILM! That's my opinion ofc. Fantastic Beasts characters can cameo, but Dumbledore's story is what we wanna see.
In “Deathly Hallows” it was heavily implied, that Grindelwald surrendered to Dumbledore and they never actually dueled. Meaning, it was probably a rumor spread by Newt, to cover up what really happened.
Only complaint i have is that dumbledore doesn't need to be so emo. Just because you lost your boyfriend, doesn't mean it's cool to sit in the dark, brooding across the road from a wedding all your best friends are at.
The love sacrifice needs to be a real sacrifice not because of the person dying but the person needs to die without presenting resistance. Once people asked JK why James sacrifice didn’t work to save lily since he died trying to protect her and Harry and she said it was because James fought Voldemort. Lily didn’t try to fight him, she just stood in front of her son refusing to give him up and her defenseless act of protection is what saved Harry.
When I first saw young Dumbledore and Nicolas Flammel in the second movie, I was like: yes! Please let the other 3 movies be in this order: 3rd movie - okay, Grindelwald and Dumbledore battle (half a movie, then after some years introducing young Tom Riddle, born 1926, maybe him getting to the orphanage..), 4rd movie, also maybe after some years later: Marauders and their forming, young Severus Snape, also some Voldemort story (Nagini romance..).. and the 5th one: sloooooowly getting to the point where Voldy opens the door and kills Lily (end of the movie...) ... that would be so wonderful... I think, even though we all know the history, that everyone would LOVE to watch it in movies.. and there are so many Fantastic Beasts in HP universe that there could be even more about them in this pre-HP times.. oh well.. such a great potentional.. so, I don't think the other two movies (there should be 5, is that right?) will even get close to the Marauders time... a pity! Also: where was Nagini??? Why Credence didn't get the story he deserved? And Ariana? I would really love the theory of Ariana's obscurus attaching to Credence, making him therefore a Dumbledore.. I also guessed him to be Albus' brother - Ariana, Albus, Aberforth, Aurelius.. AAAA.. Aurelius being Aberforth's son - well okay, bud badly done... :( Nothing really happened in the movie.. who cares about elections? Politics? Why there wasn't someone like Nicolas Flammel in the second movie? Like.. I don't know, grand/parents of the Marauders.. Anyway... it's not a HP movie... so... enjoyable, but oh well...
Stuff relating to the pact is difficult to adress, because it breaks the lore. Because if they made it before the 3 way fight, then the 3 way fight couldn't have happened, since Albus and Gellert wouldn't have been able to fight each other. And if they made it after the duel, it contradicts what we know again, because it is said that after the duel, Grindelwald left never to return, and also it doesn't make sense for them to make that pact after fighting, because why would they want to see each other after that. It makes sense to make that pact when they are allies, not when they are enemies Anyway, i have three questions. So the pact broke because one wanted to kill and the other to protect? How does that relate to the pact not letting them fight one another? Maybe it's really obvious, but it was confusing for me. How did Albus and Aberforth managed to stop Avada Kedavra without weird relationships between the wands? And why the false chillin, wich is surely an inferi, dies at the end? Because Grindelwald releases the control over him, because the spell fails? If it was under Grindelwald control, why release it, it will expose you even more. And if he died without Grindelwald whising it, why all the plot with the other chillin even exists? Because if the false chillin died, all the people there would know that Grindelwald was a fraud and was manipulating the voting anyway
The movies do not make any sense at all. None of it. I wish JK had written books instead. The movies are now canon, but none of them make ANY sense, right from the first one.
Over all i enjoyed it, it explained alot.. im wondering what come next for the next movie?! Are the characters gonna be part of the next plot to come… all we know dumbledore mission is to stop gellert, and gellert is obviously gonna lose alot of his followers due to the fact he failed to become the leader of the wizard world
I think the blood pact breaking works because they didnt specifically move against each other, the target of their spells were Creedence, one to kill him and the other to protect him. The blood pact didn't stop them because they didnt attack each other, but since their spells met it made the pact null and void. This really makes me wonder how the 3 way duel between the Dumbledores and Grindlewald went, because the only way for Albus to have been involved at all is for him to have been protecting Aberforth without his spells connecting to Grindlewalds, or he was fighting against Aberforth, which doesn't make much sense to me. The only way I could see this making sense is Aberforth was attacking Albus and Grindlewald, Grindlewald was attacking Aberforth, and Albus was moving Aberforth out of the way of Grindlewald's attacks
I just felt like there were a lot of things "missing", like, they completely wasted Credence's character development, they hypped him up so much in the first and second film, and just threw him in the bin in the last. And the story between Ariana's death and all was just a memory telling. And the final battle scene, legit just reused the final battle scene from Harry and Tom and changed the spell colour... Honestly quite underwhelming...
Spoiler Free Review - I have been a long time Harry Potter fan..💯 And as recently I have completed the book series, I fell in love with this to franchise even more, with that being said.. This 3rd installment of the Harry Potter spin off Prequel series Fantastic Beasts The Secrets Of Dumbledore was just a blast.. 💎💎It brought back the magic that made our hearts jump and it has all those nostalgia that true Potterheads recognize.. It's Truely an amazing piece of art and I definitely highly recommend all Potterheads to go to the theater and experience it there! ✅⚡ This movie deserves to hit Every actor did an amazing job and they worked hard for this film! Kindly respect that as well ✨ PS - Make sure to re-watch the Harry Potter and Fantastic Beasts 1 and 2 and learn the background of Dumbledore's story to understand this movie in a better way! #SecretsOfDumbledore #wizardingworld #wizard #wizardingworldofharrypotter
Agreed secrets of dumbledore is awesome and has unpacked alot of the questions and mysteries. I guess the unfortunate thing got to do really with covid and recast and stuff that happened outside the movie which affected the movie. The first fantastic beast was fine as an intro, the last one was kinda of avg. It could be so much better if the time between movies were not so long and movie goers can then connect the things better.
Credence's arc is too depressing. Imagine how much pain he has suffered physically and mentally. :( We know from the first film it's really heavy and sad but still wish him well or at least hope something good will happen. Personally, I think the brothers who lost their young sister that way would have done more for Credence after all this time, he gonna need a lot more than just an 'Always' (which is touching, but still) and that little bit of comfort. I'm glad he can finally come home by the way. What about the explanation they owned him? There are so many questions unanswered. Maybe it happened off screen or will be in the next film but I was expecting to see more exchanges between the Dumbledores here. Credence was seeking help throughout this film (or perhaps all his life) sadly, help was not given soon enough. He was DYING even without Grindelwald's killing curse and people just stand there and talk. Why wait until the curse almost hit him? It seems to me that Albus knows about Credence's true identity for a while now. Aberforth does not seem to be a good father but in the original series, he was so protecting and caring for his little sister. Aberforth himself said Albus was busy planning instead of taking care of Ariana. It's kinda out of character that he needs Albus to remind him this is his poor son! Also one would expect Albus Dumbledore, who love to protect Hogwarts students, to step in for his young obscurial nephew when it's not too late. It's weird to see Aberforth helped Credence walk those stairs when Albus could just somehow send them home faster 😂 I was sitting in the cinema like oh no, not the stairs!
I wonder if there's gonna be a Tom Riddle movie trilogy... The story of his parents and grandparents; his life in the orphanage and Hogwarts; his rise to power and the attempted murder of Harry Potter; the "death" of Peter Pettygrew and the arrest of Sirius Black; and the rescue of baby Harry Potter by Hagrid and delivery to #4 Privet Drive.
"In the original series we were told" clearly means nothing anymore. There are too many things that break book canon in these movies. We were told BY DUMBLEDORE at King's cross that they never met again from Ariana's death until the duel in 1945. There is also the McGonagall fact, she shouldn't even be born yet. Also we are clearly told that the killing curse can't be blocked and we always see that very thing throughout the book series, it either misses you or you die, no one ever blocks it with another spell or curse or whatever except for Harry against Voldemort but in that case it's the fact that the wands have twin cores and also Harry can't die at the hands of Voldemort because of the blood thing
1. Dumbledore is A fucking liar DUH 2.Tell me where is Mcgonagall birthdate in the books 3. Dumbledore didnt block the killing curse he moved Gellert wand causing him to miss
@@memiaszzinternetu6513 1. the whole point of the King's Cross scene at the end of the books is that Dumbledore finally stops lying to Harry and tells him the whole truth, if was lying then it ruins what is pretty much the best scene of the whole series. 2. Mcgonagall says in the order of the phoenix that she has been teaching at Hogwarts for "39 years this december" and 1995-39=1956 3. Dumbledore and Aberforth blocking the killing curse is apparently what saves Credence's life and breaks the blood pact. Although that scene is not very clear I admit I might be wrong there
@@harrietvane7805 I hope you are right about the Mcgonagall fact, but the fact they never met is said by dumbledore in the King's Cross chapter at the end of deathly hallows
@@harrietvane7805 I hope they give them another film, there’s rumors this could be the last one given Johnny’s controversy with the franchise and now Ezra’s arrests, he’s a main character in this franchise and now he’ll either have to be killed off or recasted more than likely if another film continues on.
If Albus got his 'redemption' by saving Credence, I wonder why he still feels guilty about Ariana's death in the HP timeline. But maybe regret and guilt stays for a long time and doesn't go away easily. 😓
It's pretty realistic. Lots of stories depicts "redemption" as a sort of silver bullet that can free you of any guilt or regret. But that's not how things work in the real world. You might redeem yourself but those feelings aren't gonna disappear just like that.
@@1idd0kun I still feel guilt and regret over something I did 61 years ago. I don't dwell on it but occasionally the memory pops up in quiet moments. Such is life.
Well, I think it can be quite realistic, regret is one of those things that just sticks sometimes, so, even if you do something, or multiple things proving you are a better person than you were when you done what you regret, you can still regret doing it and feel bad about it
I watched the movie yesterday and it was so good! We went to a 4d z I think it’s called…. It moved and sprayed water! I love the Quiilin and it was so funny when Newt was with the scorpion like beasts in the cave
Got me thinking, thanks so much for sharing your insights! Sadly we'll probably never see the official ending to the Fantastic Beasts franchise now and there were 2 movies left according to Rowling... Was really looking forward to seeing how they were going to handle the famous duel of 1945, also Credence/Aurelius Dumbledore's fate, Dumbledore getting the Elder Wand at some point etc. So much food for thought
I think the way they should go in the future is to show how dumbldor and Grindinwanlds obsession with each other blinds them to the greater threat growing under there noses witch is Tom Riddle ending with Grindinwald alwoing Dumbldor to defeat him when he realizes that it’s the only way to stop Tom.
I mean he died while protecting Dumbledore's honour so... Not the worst way to go. I think what he told Voldemort about love before his death was very interesting. Also, considering how Dumbledore reacted when Harry told him that, he still loved Grindelwald. The difference is that many people loved Dumbledore, and only one man loved Grindelwald. But I guess these are the consequences of choosing different paths
If the blood pact was made before the duel that killed Ariana how did Albus and Grindlewald fight? It doesn’t make sense that they would have made it after so why didn’t the blood pact stop them?
Ahhh I just saw because my parents couldn’t before today my family love’s Harry Potter and fantastic beasts so we always watch it together 😊🤩😆 it was fantastic.
About the blood pact breaking I think is because both Abeforth and Credence share the same blood with Albus. Grindelwald somehow broke it by trying to kill and Dumbledore and Abeforth by trying to save.
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I think that there is a sequel in the works, i saw the movie on opening night last night with my boyfriend and his family and my family it was a good movie!
I know I'm 2 years too late.. But it would hit so much harder if he said "Who will love you now, Albus".. Using his first name would feel more personal
im still wondering about the 6th case bunty had. im pretty sure she ordered the man to make 5 copies so it will be 6 cases including the real one. but the film only showed us 5, which i thought the 6th (whether real or fake) would be with tina in secrecy, but turned out i wasnt.
I think when done when dumbledore's brother look at him knowing that credence won't have much time left they decided that to put their differences aside and work together to save them to try to find a cure for him no matter how long it takes
I'm seeing FB3 2nite. What I'm looking forward to more than most is conversations concerning the events from FB2: the Scamander Bros talk about Letas last moments, Newt n Jacob speaking to Hicks about their perspective Goldsteins. All n all, looking forward to this movie.
Still don't understand how the blood pact broke. It is said that Grindelwald attacked Credence who was Dumbledore's blood but then the blood pact should have attacked Grindelwald. Also Dumbledore keeps to many secrets to be considered pure of heart. It should have bowed before Jacob
Full breakdown / spoiler review of the movie coming next week!
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"Who would love you now, Dumbledore"
The words of someone who just had a bad breakup.
True! 😂😂😂
“You’re all alone.”
Casting note: that Law's character could have loved Mickelson's was more believable than that he once loved Depp.
Maybe it's just me but not long after Dumbledore walking off in the last scene; Dumbledore's line " you're never alone as long as you have friends"
Not said but IMHO is when he realizes that.
Grind must have been able to really lay down the lap ham in his youth. Dumb can't get over him.. even though grind had literally murdered little children..
Things I didn’t like:
1) Tina getting sidelined
2) The revelation of Credence/Aurelius being Aberforth’s son happening in casual conversation
3) Confirmation of Ariana being an obscurial in the same casual conversation
4) Breaking the blood pact so easily, almost accidentally
5) The chilling bowing to Dumbledore didn’t make sense, Dumbledore himself has admitted his fatal mistakes and flaws. Bowing to Newt, or even Jacob, would’ve been more suitable
6) Yusuf Kama is kinda just there. Actually, without Leta Lestrange I don’t think he has much to add to the plot.
Agreed. I also don't really like how Dumbledore talk abt love with Grindelwald. It was too plain and given their complicated relationship, I was expecting something more delicate and elaborate. Also, it is unlike Dumbledore to speak of something such as love in such plain language.
Likewise, impt details such credence being Aberforth son being told through dialogue and exposition could definitely have been done better with the screenwriting.
I thought it was a nod to how dumbledore would never want power due to how it corrupted him.
Agree with all your points except 4. The Blood pact was extremely hard for Dumbledore to break as evidenced by his attempts to defy it. It only started cracking or the magic unraveling when both of their intents collided magically in spells used for/against Credence. It’s because Dumbledore has finally sided with family over his only lover. He has the full intent to stop Grindelwald and has overcome his past. The past will continue to haunt him but like he said it’s fate because he’s committed to a sense of duty and greater love for other wizards and muggles.
The reason the qillin bows to him despite his flaws and past mistakes is because this is an Albus Dumbledore who has cast aside ego in favor of helping others. This is the same Dumbledore who gives his life later to save Draco and works with Snape and others to stop Voldemort through one thing Tom never had - selfless love.
Tina got sidelined because the actress was unavailable during filming … i think she may have gotten sick …
@@lupe1808 also might be because the actress who plays Tina was very vocal about jk trans stand.
Throughout this movie Albus and Aberforth seem pretty close, which is a far-cry from their relationship decades later when they weren't even on speaking terms. In fact it seems like at this point Albus regularly goes to see Aberforth at his home and at the Hog's Head, despite the fact that we are lead to believe he still holds a grudge over Albus for what happened to Arianna. My guess is what will actually strain Albus's relationship with Aberforth has something to do with Credence. Now that Aberforth has his son back, he will undoubtedly want to do everything he can to save his life and to protect him. So my theory is that in the next movie, Gellert has some way to save Credence from dying from the obscurial. He offer Albus to cure Credence if he agrees to join his side. Albus of course refuses, but Aberforth desperate to save his son pleads with Albus to reconsider, and while Albus maybe tempted, he ultimately cannot bring himself to become compromised. So instead Credence dies, and a grief stricken Alberforth goes back to hating his older brother and holding him responsible for everyone they love meeting a tragic end, thus the Dumbledore brothers relationship becomes strained and remains that way for decades.
Huh. Now that you're pointed out, you're right. A. and D. seems to be on good terms for now, but in future we know that they're not. So.. I think you could be right about Credence.
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Dude, they were on good terms during the hp saga, Aberforth was part of the Order of the Phoenix. And I don't think we'll see Credence again, there's just too much drama with the actress Ezra Miller
@@you_already_have_it lol A and D as if both character initials aren’t AD
@@luans.40 actor*
Aberforth and Albus were working together during the Harry Potter books though and Aberforth definitely still holds a grudge against Albus. You can tell during that dinner scene.
I'm hoping that Hagrid will appear in the 4th or 5th film, so that we can know if Newt gave him Aragog.
This!
Plot twist Jacob gave him Aragog not knowing what it was (::
@Bad Boys Boogie maybe a traveler named Newt and his pocket full of magical creatures lol
Bro no not hagrid
Nah Hagrid is like around 2-5 during secrets of Dumbledore
They swore an oath not to fight each other. But when they casted their spells to kill and the other to protect, the pact crumbled because the two spells that collided were from the one's who made the pact. Both of them launched an attack at each other without directly knowing it. And so, both violated their non aggression oath, and the blood pact becoming irrelevant.
So... how about you watch the explanation that movie flame gave, or the one they gave in the actual movie without saying anything else about whatever it is you're trying to prove...
This explanation is actually make sense! 👍🏼
@@atadbitahistory9660 This IS the explanation Dumbledore gives in the actual movie.
@@lucyislight9949 Yeah, they gave it, then totally ignored it.
Defence is not an aggression, and funnily enough, they gave an explanation in this video aswell, I don't understand how this doesn't make sense to everybody.
The oath was not to fight each other. Why would that pact be voided because their spells touched without aggression? Either they fought each other or they didn't, so they either broke the oath or didn't, nothing voided it. Bad writing.
When I heard the news that it was Mads who would play the new Grindelwald, I immediately said, "You can condemn him, this movie, but damn it, look at him in action! ". This person can play with only his eyes. He's incredible.
There is nothing near Johnny Depp whatever you say. Mads is okay as an individual but the series needed Johnny to reach that level.
You can definitely tell that Mads did his homework. I definitely respect him as an actor especially watching him in Rogue One
@@andromeda183 nope, mads is better Grindelwald
I feel like Newt, Jacob, and the gangs story has concluded on a satisfying ending. I’d love to see one more film with Dumbledore going after Grindelwald for a final confrontation.
There’s going to be a total of 5 Fantastic Beast films, so 2 more
I think Queenie and Jacob's relationship was very rushed, they didn't see each other for several years, then are reunited at the restaurant where they see each other for one scene and don't even talk, then they meet once in the finale and don't even get along that well, and after that everything goes back to the first movie and they get married in the next scene
@@hamzaelhajj3178 if Fantastic Beats 3 flops in the box office there will be no more FB movies
I really liked this, so I hope we get more movies. From where we left of at the end of this movie I would be fine with just 1 more movie, but the problem is that this movie takes place in the early 1930s and the famous duel between Grindelwald and Dumbledore is in 1945.
There story didn't really get wrapped up tho this was kinda just a filler movie with the set up for the last 2 with the breaking of the blood pack and the only other question that was truly answered was who is barboon
It was so weird we didn’t see thesus grieve about leta at all. All the human and relatable emotions were barely explored.
What I loved about the Hp books is that yes it’s a magical world but it focuses on human things we all experience. Family loss, bullying and friendship.
Here they had those themes but they were no where near explored
I think that might be because of the time gap. The second movie took place in 1927, and according to the synopsis, this one took place in 1932. Theseus did grieve, just not on-screen.
(That being said, a flashback would've been nice.)
He did grieve after Grindlewald left at the end.
Tbh I just want him to find love again. Leta wasn’t really dedicated to him. I know it’s awful she passed but she eventually didn’t choose him. He deserves better, and I hope it’s Eulalie tbh.
The Harry Potter books were a labour of love while most of these new productions are just being created for the business they bring.
@@NkechiR She has enough money.. I truly do not think this is a cash grab.
can't wait for your explanation on the battle between albus and credence. this movie was so confusing in so many ways so I want to see some discussions and breaksowns before my second viewing.
Probably a phantom zone
They fought at mirror zone like dr strange..
@@angkyarcade and how does that fit into Harry Potter? And why didnt they do that at the time of the Potter movies then?
@@SMDC2000 probably cause this idea just plopped up before filming the movie. I am also very confused about what and how it happened and the whole scene just reminds me of Doctor Strange and the whole multiverse thing. When filming Harry Potter years ago, nobody thought of this and they just used this idea now even though it is completely confusing and doesn‘t make sense with the storyline of Harry defeating/ fighting Voldemort.
Probably a spell by Dumbledore that fakes reality , like a very strong concealment charm which fakes everything around , he does do some hanky panky to the mirror in the shop . What I don't understand is the duel with Grindelwald , why did that happen in mirror verse when no one actually cast any spell n yet no one but Albus n Grindy seemed to be able to see the duel as they fought
I feel like when Newt says that he will do it again is not only a line for the character in the movie, but it’s a nod for Redmayne to continue in the magic of this role along with a nod for the audience’s desire to see more adventures after this film. I think the general audience, myself included, is here to see and support more wizarding world adventures so long as the material isn’t a complete dump truck fire
What the we need to worry about more is people refusing to go and see #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore all because of her comments; I’d highly encourage and recommend everyone [please Encourage as many other people as you can as well please :-) See it as many times as they can in theaters, and even If possible,buy a ticket for it In place of going to see another movie so that way it still gets money without you actually having to see it multiple times. Buying as many merchandise directly related to it as possible will also truly help.
Also remember that if you’re refusing to see it because of #JohnnyDeppIsMyGrindelwald Then please remember that this movie needs to do well so as to give Johnny the chance to actually come back in the Later movies, For the actor who played MacNair The executioner was re-casted for prisoner of Azkaban and then came back for order of the Phoenix. The bottom line is that if #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore Doesn’t do well, And they don’t make the remaining two movies,then Johnny definitely will never be back as Grindelwald!Plus you also have to remember that it’s about to be a new company with new people over seeing it, So as such you were technically not paying that company and are actually giving more of a chance than not having him actually return. Especially depending on what may happen with the results of his trial that’s going to be happening shortly after the movie comes out, the new people taking over Warner Bros. right before it comes out……
Also remember in regards to her that she doesn’t necessarily get a whole lot of money from this, as well the fact remains that as many people have pointed out that she already has so much money that not supporting the series will not really change any kind of “power“ that you may have against her, and after all the series should not suffer at all because of her for Regardless of what you may think, nothing I repeat nothing will ever ever truly take away what a series overall truly means to you let alone other people, And again it’s not The series that’s the problem at all in any kind of way :-)
Also keep in mind that even though it’s not the best example they have at least one transgender person or someone who identifies themselves as “They” in the cast so much for her transphobia……
Material which indeed is a dump truck fire
@@SuperMoviemaster21 The real problem is that WB treats fans like a cash cow. I have far less trouble with either of the above reasons that WB only caring about $$$$.
@@COmtnLady Again, don’t forget that even though of course it’s all still a business overall, discovery now owns WB so the people in charge may think a little bit differently, As for example from what I’ve been hearing they seem quite keen to restore the Snyder verse for example, even regardless of what’s going on with the flash, so if enough of us support these movies, then more than maybe something might actually happen with them/door at the very least be able to continue :-)
While this ending was alright, I would've actually preferred it if Grindelwald had won this time round, remaining as Supreme Mugwump, but having Newt's speech about the dead Qilin cause the general population to doubt Grindelwald's legitimacy, whilst also having Dumbledore's followers doubt his ability to defeat Grindelwald. The idea of having doubtful and disloyal followers on both sides could've made for an interesting topic to cover in the next movie, but alas, it was never meant to be...
they had to wrap it up neatly because they’re never making another one 💀
@@suburbancarwash209 evidence?
@@suburbancarwash209 i think whether the next film is happening or not depends on the box office and the ratings of the film
the rotten tomatoes audience score is aready out and its pretty high
Regardless of who the Qillin chose, they need to explain why the Supreme Mugump post is so important all of a sudden as well. In the book (HP 5), they mentioned that Dumbledore was the Supreme Mugwump untill he lost the post after the Voldemort is Back situation. But didnt rly mention anything Dumbledore did as the Supreme Mugwump. In fact, it wasn't even portrayed as of much importance at all. How come Dumbledore had no control over the Doleres situation as a Supreme Mugwump for example. Or how would Fudge even think that the Supreme Mugwomp would want to steal his position as the Minister of Magic which is far inferior to the Supreme Mugwump. If Dumbledore was the most powerful (by rank as the Supreme Mugwump) in the world, how come he had to obey all sorts of commands by the Ministry of Magic UK and werent even like a celebrity like Supreme Mugwumps are portrayed in this movie (FB 3). This rly need to be explained.
I understand you guys but it wasn't even mentioned other than that incident in the book for HP5. Not even once in the movies at all. Especially if it is such an honor in the wizarding world, for a position with so much power and publicity, it really doesnt make sense that nobody even mentioned him as such. I know they had to modify the plot and twist and turn their stories for the FB series but come on. If my professor was the Supreme Mugwump, I think I would at least call him by that title or at least mention about it/hear others mention about it more than once over a decade. Even on the Chocolate frog cards or the Daily Prophet article on Dumbledore did not mention about him being/having been the Supreme Mugwump once.
I was waiting for the flashback scene of Ariana‘s death. Would had been good to see that guilt in screen time.
I wanted a young Albus and Gellert summer love flashback, sad we didn’t get one.
@@reanalysaa6430 agreed
@@reanalysaa6430 As long as they want to sell tickets in countries that hate lgbt we won‘t get anything like that
I really like that Grindelwald is such a complex villain, and that there's something very human about him. Voldemort just seemed straight-up evil, which is fun on screen, but he lacked the depth and intrigue of Grindelwald.
Personally, i think it would have been super cool if the Qilin bowed to Kowalski and he was elected. Would have most definitely created a huge rift in the wizarding world, setting the stage for a huge war.
On one hand, he is pure of heart and possibly the right leader, on the other hand, he is a muggle.
Would have turned the two sides into extremes and given grindlewald an even larger base of supporters.
Honestly I’d love that but I can’t ever imagine Jacob leading. He’s kind and pure-hearted but he’s not a leader like Albus is.
@@reanalysaa6430 I mean, it could have been a great way to have him grow more as a character. Become a leader and grow a spine, but meanwhile, his ineptness stemming from his unknowning of the wizarding world could be great in not only making him doubt himself, which would serve as a backdrop to great character development, but also, a more or less failed Kowalski Cabinet could even further divide the Wizarding world, even turning Grindlewalds most moderate followers into extremist.
But that's just wishful thinking, lol.
Regardless of who the Qillin chose, they need to explain why the Supreme Mugump post is so important all of a sudden as well. In the book (HP 5), they mentioned that Dumbledore was the Supreme Mugwump untill he lost the post after the Voldemort is Back situation. But didnt rly mention anything Dumbledore did as the Supreme Mugwump. In fact, it wasn't even portrayed as of much importance at all. How come Dumbledore had no control over the Doleres situation as a Supreme Mugwump for example. Or how would Fudge even think that the Supreme Mugwomp would want to steal his position as the Minister of Magic which is far inferior to the Supreme Mugwump. If Dumbledore was the most powerful (by rank as the Supreme Mugwump) in the world, how come he had to obey all sorts of commands by the Ministry of Magic UK and werent even like a celebrity like Supreme Mugwumps are portrayed in this movie (FB 3). This rly need to be explained.
@@buihelgason I agree, it would have made for an interesting plot arc and he as leader could have grown into the role with tutoring from Dumbledore and Newt, kind of like how Dumbledore coached Harry.
@@tigeryt637 true spam this
Whoa I didn't think this much of the end part while watching the film! Don't get me wrong, I'm a potter head and understood everything but when you explained how Dumbledore was all alone, that part now has so much depth for me now..nicely explained
One of the things that I noticed in this movie is that they're in Germany when they're talking about the whole International Confederation of Wizards election. And if I remember correctly from History, it was also around this time that Germany was undergoing massive radical changes as I assume that this takes place in the 1930s. Would've been interesting to see that.
Well from what I understand, the next series events regarding Grindelwald roughly coincides with World War 2 in the Muggle World. I would imagine an event of the same scale happened in the Wizarding world at the same time.
@@markedred That would be something.
@@thebegleyshow3320 It’s honestly interesting when you think about it. Especially in history with Germany being the Weimar Republic and had to suffered a weak government and a lot of elections were called and government changes almost happening every few years with a new Chancellor up until 1933 when Hitler was appointed with him manipulating his supporters as being a great elegant speaker by his supporters winning his party seats and a majority. Which was what we basically saw in this movie with them having an election for the International Confederation of Wizards. And saw Grindelwald be more manipulative to his supporters, and gaining new ones which we saw in a few scenes with the rallies. And as well saw Anton Vogel brushing off any warnings of him growing to power, and believing he couldn’t win and literally allowing Grindelwald off of all charges for his crimes. Which was similar to basically Von Hindenburg and other government officials in the Reichstag brushing off warnings and just thinking they can use him by keeping him in a weaker position of power with him being chancellor which we all know would backfired. Again kind of interesting on how closely this resembles Germany in the early 1930’s which the third film is set in, and honestly what would be happening if the fourth film mentions those events as we are leading up to World War II and the final battle with Dumbledore and Grindelwald at the end of the war in 1945 which would be obviously happening fifth and final film. Sorry if this was long.
@@thetimetraveler7297 It’s not too long. It’s stuff like this that makes it interesting.
The part where it mirrors Grindelwald, Aberforth and Dumbledore's battle would've been much more impactful if the film had a flashback scene on when him, Aberforth and Grindelwald fought that lead to Ariana's death.
There needs to be a What IF series. The first episode should be what if Grindle and Albus ruled the world
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On one level of identifying an abuser, of course Grindelwald checks off some major marks, the most obvious being he says whatever people want to hear to gain their trust. That said, I particularly found it triggering when he asked Dumbledore, "who will love you now??" which is a common tactic they use. It's like a personal attack/insult as a last resort to keep their "victim" down and "in their place" to sum it up. When a manipulative person loses their power, watch them spiral with weak jabs. Happens all the time.
There are all kinds of love. Grindelwald was just trying to keep control over Dumbledore by triggering a common human fear of being alone.
It seemed to me that it was rather not "Who will love you now?" but "Who will love me now?". He projected his feelings, his fear of losing the one and only person who truly loves him, onto Dumbledore. Breaking the blood pact meant for both of them that they were no longer bound by anything. And obviously, for Grindelwald, this is something that hurts him.
Jeez, he didn't even really try to kill Dumbledore, they used mostly Expeliarmus and Stupefy. And their last spells, which they directed at each other when they touched each other's hearts, were the harmless Expeliarmus. When Dumbledore turned away from him, leaving him again, he felt resentment, pain, fear that no one else would love him, that he would be all alone.
If it was Johnny Depp's Grindelwald, I'd say that it was definitely manipulation. But Mads' Grindelwald seems capable of love, and in his words to Dumbledore I did not hear mockery
I'm sad for Credece. He should get to be happy for a while. All he wants is to be loved by his family. I love him
Although I'm a huge advocate for Johnny Depp to be Grindelwald, Madds Mikkelsen did PHENOMENAL
Movieflame you are honestly so awesome. You explain things soooo well and the amount of time and effort you put into ur videos is fantastic.
Will always love ur work!😀😀
CORRECTION at 3:36. Dumbledore didn't reply that he was all alone. It was Grindelwald who said that line following his initial question, "Who will love you now, Dumbledore?" This is important because Dumbledore would rather choose to be alone than join forces with a murderer just to have a boyfriend. Dumbledore has solid morals, and this is why the Qilin bowed to him.
Agreed, although I think you significantly reduce the importance of their love. It wasn't just about "having a boyfriend." Dumbledore loved Grindelwald, maybe even till that moment. But he decided to put aside his personal feelings for the greater good. Ultimately, he achieved the goal that he had set for himself in his teens, just in a different way than Grindelwald wanted to.
It was Dumbledore who replied "you are all alone". I just watched it now repeatedly to confirm.
I was curious if we got to see Voldemort as a child or young teenager unless I got the timeline wrong but I think it would have been awesome to see say chamber of secrets from their perspective in this movie (I haven’t seen the movie )
@GreyJedi 2001 Voldemort opened the Chamber of Secrets in 1943 while he was still a student.
Tom Riddle opened the chamber 2 years before Dumbledore's final defeat of Grindelwald, so there's a chance we see him at Hogwarts. It would also be nice if we get to see Newt give an unhatched Aragog to young Hagrid.
If the movie series goes by what is on Pottermore then the earliest we would see any sign of Voldemort at Hogwarts is in the following movies (if there are any.) We KNOW Tom Riddle didn't start Hogwarts until 1938 and that he graduated in the beginning of 1945. Secrets of Dumbledore takes place in 1932-1933 meaning that Voldemort wasn't at Hogwarts at this time. However considering they have McGonagall teaching at Hogwarts before she was even born (she started teaching supposedly in 1956 when she was /21 yrs old/) according to Pottermore? For all we know one of the little Slytherin boys who gave Jacob cockroach clusters was supposed to be the then Tom Riddle.
Before anyone says "It could be her ancestor though!" In regards to the McGonagall bit. First off in Secrets of Dumbledore he talks to her at the door of the Hog's Head and CALLS HER MINERVA. Secondly she is a half blood who's father is a MUGGLE. Thus, before her mother (by marriage) and her siblings there were no McGonagalls in the wizarding world! Also her mother was named Isobel NOT Minerva and didn't tell Minerva's father about being a witch until AFTER Minerva was born. She was of course born in 1935 which is 2-3 years AFTER the events of this Secrets of Dumbledore!) She is purely fan service. Which means they could make Tom Riddle start school just a few years earlier for pure fan service too if they wanted.
I already saw enough of Voldemort.
forget dumbledore and grindelwald. we want a "the wizard in the hopping pop, babbity rabbity, and the cackling stump" spin-off series. The spin-offs we all deserve.
I cannot wait to see the big duel between Albus and Gellet. It was mentioned in the Harry Potter books and was known as the greatest duel of all time. Harry and Voldemorts final duel is not overly great to watch since Voldemort lost his horcruxes so he was weakened. They basically just pointed their wands at each other and that was it. I am hoping the one between Albus and Gellert is more like Albus' and Voldemort's duel in the fifth movie ( order of the Phoenix) with different CGI spells like the dragon or large ball instead of two single streams just pointed at each other.
What the we need to worry about more is people refusing to go and see #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore all because of her comments; I’d highly encourage and recommend everyone [please Encourage as many other people as you can as well please :-) See it as many times as they can in theaters, and even If possible,buy a ticket for it In place of going to see another movie so that way it still gets money without you actually having to see it multiple times. Buying as many merchandise directly related to it as possible will also truly help.
Also remember that if you’re refusing to see it because of #JohnnyDeppIsMyGrindelwald Then please remember that this movie needs to do well so as to give Johnny the chance to actually come back in the Later movies, For the actor who played MacNair The executioner was re-casted for prisoner of Azkaban and then came back for order of the Phoenix. The bottom line is that if #FantasticBeastsTheSecretsOfDumbledore Doesn’t do well, And they don’t make the remaining two movies,then Johnny definitely will never be back as Grindelwald!Plus you also have to remember that it’s about to be a new company with new people over seeing it, So as such you were technically not paying that company and are actually giving more of a chance than not having him actually return. Especially depending on what may happen with the results of his trial that’s going to be happening shortly after the movie comes out, the new people taking over Warner Bros. right before it comes out……
Also remember in regards to her that she doesn’t necessarily get a whole lot of money from this, as well the fact remains that as many people have pointed out that she already has so much money that not supporting the series will not really change any kind of “power“ that you may have against her, and after all the series should not suffer at all because of her for Regardless of what you may think, nothing I repeat nothing will ever ever truly take away what a series overall truly means to you let alone other people, And again it’s not The series that’s the problem at all in any kind of way :-)
Also keep in mind that even though it’s not the best example they have at least one transgender person or someone who identifies themselves as “They” in the cast so much for her transphobia……
Yup the wizarding movies haven't been able to recreate that fight since Order of Phoenix. I don't even know how harry won. If voldemort used those spells harry would have a hard time.
Did anyone else think that the giant monster in the lake of hogwarts could have grown from the piece that came with Theseus from the prison i mean the books said it was a calamari but no one actually ever saw the full of it
this review video is the best i’ve come cross on youtube and i was myself thinking of the duel in parallel how now this time a dumbledore’s saved versus killed, which in some senses should bring redemption to albus and aberforth. the ending scene was heartbreaking how albus was close to happiness yet consumed in dark loneliness as he walked into the black nights, which corresponded to him telling grindelwald how he’s all alone after the duel. you’ve earned yourself a new follower sir!
Dumbledore doesn’t want it now, but during the HP timeline he is the Supreme Mugwump. So I think he eventually realizes that he is good, and is the right person for the job.
as soon as aberforth said “always” am like “oh snape” 🥺
I’m really hoping you’re right about it being that Dumbledore was protecting family and that’s why it broke, bc if it didn’t need to be Credence, then imo it really hurts the importance of his character
I’m so happy I recently saw secrets of dumbledore then I saw this video straight at my Birthday 🎉. Thank you for making my day better!
WOW! My friend will give us SOD birthday treat! I heard him discussing with Arjun about the cake situation!
Ok admittedly when I watched it on release day... I was Expecting Credence to die during the fight scene Due to Remembering Arianas death
It was such a beautiful movie! When Aurelius/Credence asks his father whether he ever thought of him, I intuitively thought he would say, "Always " And when Aberforth did say just that, I was beside myself with joy!
One little word, but J.K. Rowling invested it with so much weight!
Everybody seems to forget about bunty, and only remember her when she shows up
Wow. I think you are right!
I didn't understand when I watched the film why blood pact pendant suddenly broke, but with yours explaining I get it now. Blood pact was between Albus and Grindelwald to never fight/kill/harm each other. But Grindelwald cast a killing spell at Credence, who are half Dumbledore and Albus cast a protection spell against Grindelwald'sGrindelwald's at the same time.
Thanks for just uploading videos and putting time and effort into it
Is Dumbledore who replies "I am all alone"? I've seen the movie twice already, in Spanish, and I feel sure that at least in the Spanish dub is Gellert the one who says "Who would love you know Dumbledore? You're all alone"...
In English, the line is the same as in Spanish. Grindelwald says it to manipulate and mock Dumbledore.
I just saw the movie yesterday day and holy heck it was good
The fact that I whatched this asap as this came out just proves I’m a big fan!
Considering the film feels like a solid ending for the Fantastic Beasts characters (Dumbledore can fight Grindlewald now so doesn't need them as much, and they seem pretty happy at the end), I feel this is the perfect time to do what they should have done from the beginning: Rename the next film to ALBUS DUMBLEDORE and the something something something. I feel Dumbledore's story is the main crutch of the story and the most compelling part of these past two films. The Fantastic Beasts aspect felt forced past the first one. So now, with it ending on a shot of Dumbledore, and the pact is broken, JUST MAKE THE FOURTH FILM HIS FILM! That's my opinion ofc. Fantastic Beasts characters can cameo, but Dumbledore's story is what we wanna see.
In “Deathly Hallows” it was heavily implied, that Grindelwald surrendered to Dumbledore and they never actually dueled. Meaning, it was probably a rumor spread by Newt, to cover up what really happened.
Only complaint i have is that dumbledore doesn't need to be so emo. Just because you lost your boyfriend, doesn't mean it's cool to sit in the dark, brooding across the road from a wedding all your best friends are at.
The Newtina scene at the end stole the show for me
Their chemistry is top notch
so sad to see Dumbledore all alone for so long T_T
The love sacrifice needs to be a real sacrifice not because of the person dying but the person needs to die without presenting resistance. Once people asked JK why James sacrifice didn’t work to save lily since he died trying to protect her and Harry and she said it was because James fought Voldemort. Lily didn’t try to fight him, she just stood in front of her son refusing to give him up and her defenseless act of protection is what saved Harry.
When I first saw young Dumbledore and Nicolas Flammel in the second movie, I was like: yes! Please let the other 3 movies be in this order: 3rd movie - okay, Grindelwald and Dumbledore battle (half a movie, then after some years introducing young Tom Riddle, born 1926, maybe him getting to the orphanage..), 4rd movie, also maybe after some years later: Marauders and their forming, young Severus Snape, also some Voldemort story (Nagini romance..).. and the 5th one: sloooooowly getting to the point where Voldy opens the door and kills Lily (end of the movie...) ... that would be so wonderful... I think, even though we all know the history, that everyone would LOVE to watch it in movies.. and there are so many Fantastic Beasts in HP universe that there could be even more about them in this pre-HP times.. oh well.. such a great potentional.. so, I don't think the other two movies (there should be 5, is that right?) will even get close to the Marauders time... a pity!
Also: where was Nagini???
Why Credence didn't get the story he deserved? And Ariana? I would really love the theory of Ariana's obscurus attaching to Credence, making him therefore a Dumbledore.. I also guessed him to be Albus' brother - Ariana, Albus, Aberforth, Aurelius.. AAAA.. Aurelius being Aberforth's son - well okay, bud badly done... :(
Nothing really happened in the movie.. who cares about elections? Politics?
Why there wasn't someone like Nicolas Flammel in the second movie? Like.. I don't know, grand/parents of the Marauders..
Anyway... it's not a HP movie... so... enjoyable, but oh well...
Stuff relating to the pact is difficult to adress, because it breaks the lore. Because if they made it before the 3 way fight, then the 3 way fight couldn't have happened, since Albus and Gellert wouldn't have been able to fight each other. And if they made it after the duel, it contradicts what we know again, because it is said that after the duel, Grindelwald left never to return, and also it doesn't make sense for them to make that pact after fighting, because why would they want to see each other after that. It makes sense to make that pact when they are allies, not when they are enemies
Anyway, i have three questions. So the pact broke because one wanted to kill and the other to protect? How does that relate to the pact not letting them fight one another? Maybe it's really obvious, but it was confusing for me. How did Albus and Aberforth managed to stop Avada Kedavra without weird relationships between the wands? And why the false chillin, wich is surely an inferi, dies at the end? Because Grindelwald releases the control over him, because the spell fails? If it was under Grindelwald control, why release it, it will expose you even more. And if he died without Grindelwald whising it, why all the plot with the other chillin even exists? Because if the false chillin died, all the people there would know that Grindelwald was a fraud and was manipulating the voting anyway
honestly agree with your questions here, would like to hear what people have to say
The movies do not make any sense at all. None of it. I wish JK had written books instead. The movies are now canon, but none of them make ANY sense, right from the first one.
It feels very much like a Charles Xavier vs Magneto storyline
Over all i enjoyed it, it explained alot.. im wondering what come next for the next movie?! Are the characters gonna be part of the next plot to come… all we know dumbledore mission is to stop gellert, and gellert is obviously gonna lose alot of his followers due to the fact he failed to become the leader of the wizard world
Every time I hear always I get goosbumps, it's such a powerful yet simple line
"Always"
I think the blood pact breaking works because they didnt specifically move against each other, the target of their spells were Creedence, one to kill him and the other to protect him. The blood pact didn't stop them because they didnt attack each other, but since their spells met it made the pact null and void. This really makes me wonder how the 3 way duel between the Dumbledores and Grindlewald went, because the only way for Albus to have been involved at all is for him to have been protecting Aberforth without his spells connecting to Grindlewalds, or he was fighting against Aberforth, which doesn't make much sense to me.
The only way I could see this making sense is Aberforth was attacking Albus and Grindlewald, Grindlewald was attacking Aberforth, and Albus was moving Aberforth out of the way of Grindlewald's attacks
I just felt like there were a lot of things "missing", like, they completely wasted Credence's character development, they hypped him up so much in the first and second film, and just threw him in the bin in the last.
And the story between Ariana's death and all was just a memory telling.
And the final battle scene, legit just reused the final battle scene from Harry and Tom and changed the spell colour...
Honestly quite underwhelming...
I’m happy they included the “always” great homage to HP books/films
Spoiler Free Review - I have been a long time Harry Potter fan..💯 And as recently I have completed the book series, I fell in love with this to franchise even more, with that being said.. This 3rd installment of the Harry Potter spin off Prequel series Fantastic Beasts The Secrets Of Dumbledore was just a blast.. 💎💎It brought back the magic that made our hearts jump and it has all those nostalgia that true Potterheads recognize.. It's Truely an amazing piece of art and I definitely highly recommend all Potterheads to go to the theater and experience it there! ✅⚡
This movie deserves to hit
Every actor did an amazing job and they worked hard for this film!
Kindly respect that as well ✨
PS - Make sure to re-watch the Harry Potter and Fantastic Beasts 1 and 2 and learn the background of Dumbledore's story to understand this movie in a better way!
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Agreed secrets of dumbledore is awesome and has unpacked alot of the questions and mysteries. I guess the unfortunate thing got to do really with covid and recast and stuff that happened outside the movie which affected the movie. The first fantastic beast was fine as an intro, the last one was kinda of avg. It could be so much better if the time between movies were not so long and movie goers can then connect the things better.
Credence's arc is too depressing. Imagine how much pain he has suffered physically and mentally. :( We know from the first film it's really heavy and sad but still wish him well or at least hope something good will happen. Personally, I think the brothers who lost their young sister that way would have done more for Credence after all this time, he gonna need a lot more than just an 'Always' (which is touching, but still) and that little bit of comfort. I'm glad he can finally come home by the way. What about the explanation they owned him? There are so many questions unanswered. Maybe it happened off screen or will be in the next film but I was expecting to see more exchanges between the Dumbledores here. Credence was seeking help throughout this film (or perhaps all his life) sadly, help was not given soon enough. He was DYING even without Grindelwald's killing curse and people just stand there and talk. Why wait until the curse almost hit him? It seems to me that Albus knows about Credence's true identity for a while now. Aberforth does not seem to be a good father but in the original series, he was so protecting and caring for his little sister. Aberforth himself said Albus was busy planning instead of taking care of Ariana. It's kinda out of character that he needs Albus to remind him this is his poor son! Also one would expect Albus Dumbledore, who love to protect Hogwarts students, to step in for his young obscurial nephew when it's not too late.
It's weird to see Aberforth helped Credence walk those stairs when Albus could just somehow send them home faster 😂 I was sitting in the cinema like oh no, not the stairs!
Wasn't Albus is the Supreme Mugwump after Vicencia Santos so that's probably not the reason why he said no.
I wonder if there's gonna be a Tom Riddle movie trilogy...
The story of his parents and grandparents; his life in the orphanage and Hogwarts; his rise to power and the attempted murder of Harry Potter; the "death" of Peter Pettygrew and the arrest of Sirius Black; and the rescue of baby Harry Potter by Hagrid and delivery to #4 Privet Drive.
Nah, we already know all that - as is evidenced by you delineating his life.
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Well... I wanna see it on big screen... and maybe some "filler stories" that weren't mentioned in the book.
"In the original series we were told" clearly means nothing anymore. There are too many things that break book canon in these movies. We were told BY DUMBLEDORE at King's cross that they never met again from Ariana's death until the duel in 1945. There is also the McGonagall fact, she shouldn't even be born yet. Also we are clearly told that the killing curse can't be blocked and we always see that very thing throughout the book series, it either misses you or you die, no one ever blocks it with another spell or curse or whatever except for Harry against Voldemort but in that case it's the fact that the wands have twin cores and also Harry can't die at the hands of Voldemort because of the blood thing
McGonagall was already born in the late 19th century for she was Dumbledore's student.
1. Dumbledore is A fucking liar DUH
2.Tell me where is Mcgonagall birthdate in the books
3. Dumbledore didnt block the killing curse he moved Gellert wand causing him to miss
@@memiaszzinternetu6513 1. the whole point of the King's Cross scene at the end of the books is that Dumbledore finally stops lying to Harry and tells him the whole truth, if was lying then it ruins what is pretty much the best scene of the whole series.
2. Mcgonagall says in the order of the phoenix that she has been teaching at Hogwarts for "39 years this december" and 1995-39=1956
3. Dumbledore and Aberforth blocking the killing curse is apparently what saves Credence's life and breaks the blood pact. Although that scene is not very clear I admit I might be wrong there
@@harrietvane7805 I hope you are right about the Mcgonagall fact, but the fact they never met is said by dumbledore in the King's Cross chapter at the end of deathly hallows
@@harrietvane7805 I hope they give them another film, there’s rumors this could be the last one given Johnny’s controversy with the franchise and now Ezra’s arrests, he’s a main character in this franchise and now he’ll either have to be killed off or recasted more than likely if another film continues on.
If Albus got his 'redemption' by saving Credence, I wonder why he still feels guilty about Ariana's death in the HP timeline. But maybe regret and guilt stays for a long time and doesn't go away easily. 😓
It's pretty realistic. Lots of stories depicts "redemption" as a sort of silver bullet that can free you of any guilt or regret. But that's not how things work in the real world. You might redeem yourself but those feelings aren't gonna disappear just like that.
@@1idd0kun I still feel guilt and regret over something I did 61 years ago. I don't dwell on it but occasionally the memory pops up in quiet moments. Such is life.
Well, I think it can be quite realistic, regret is one of those things that just sticks sometimes, so, even if you do something, or multiple things proving you are a better person than you were when you done what you regret, you can still regret doing it and feel bad about it
I watched the movie yesterday and it was so good! We went to a 4d z I think it’s called…. It moved and sprayed water! I love the Quiilin and it was so funny when Newt was with the scorpion like beasts in the cave
I seriously didn’t understand the random duel and the selecting Dumbledore thing. This video was very helpful, thanks!!
The amount of retcons in this universe are at comic book levels now
I loved this movie!!
Grindelwald said "you're all alone" not Dumbledore
I’m so excited to watch the movie :D
Got me thinking, thanks so much for sharing your insights! Sadly we'll probably never see the official ending to the Fantastic Beasts franchise now and there were 2 movies left according to Rowling... Was really looking forward to seeing how they were going to handle the famous duel of 1945, also Credence/Aurelius Dumbledore's fate, Dumbledore getting the Elder Wand at some point etc. So much food for thought
Honestly this explains everything I watched in the theatre. Thank you for your motivational wisdom, Morgan...Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Always a great fan of your harry potter videos!! ❤🔥
I think the way they should go in the future is to show how dumbldor and Grindinwanlds obsession with each other blinds them to the greater threat growing under there noses witch is Tom Riddle ending with Grindinwald alwoing Dumbldor to defeat him when he realizes that it’s the only way to stop Tom.
Who will love you now, Dumbledore?
Harry. Harry Potter loved Dumbledore. And Gellert died alone in prison.
Yes.Not all loved needs to be romantic.
@@har5814 Fanfic writers: We dont do that here
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I mean he died while protecting Dumbledore's honour so... Not the worst way to go. I think what he told Voldemort about love before his death was very interesting. Also, considering how Dumbledore reacted when Harry told him that, he still loved Grindelwald. The difference is that many people loved Dumbledore, and only one man loved Grindelwald. But I guess these are the consequences of choosing different paths
I saw the movie on Monday, and I thought it was better than the 2nd one at least. I would watch it again
Damn that “then or now” directed to Dumbledore hits hard
@morgan. Very nice work! I like your style and the way you present things with confidence. Very professional.
I just finished watching the movie the moment you dropped this video. Impeccable timing
I was the movie on April 9th (a day before my birthday) and the movies was friggin’ awesome.
Let's make this clear.
Grindelwald does NOT love Dumblebore!
This is an abusive relationship he does this for the power over him not for love!!
I agree that Dumbledore and Grindelwald’s relationship is toxic, but Grindelwald clearly still has feelings for Dumbledore.
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I saw the movie today I really enjoyed it 😁😁
If the blood pact was made before the duel that killed Ariana how did Albus and Grindlewald fight? It doesn’t make sense that they would have made it after so why didn’t the blood pact stop them?
Ahhh I just saw because my parents couldn’t before today my family love’s Harry Potter and fantastic beasts so we always watch it together 😊🤩😆 it was fantastic.
About the blood pact breaking I think is because both Abeforth and Credence share the same blood with Albus. Grindelwald somehow broke it by trying to kill and Dumbledore and Abeforth by trying to save.
Literally!
“Either you saw the movie or you don’t care about spoilers”
Love it make it clear 4 the dumb…es that can’t read.
I love your work keep it up 👍
I think that there is a sequel in the works, i saw the movie on opening night last night with my boyfriend and his family and my family it was a good movie!
Never expected Jude Law to do so much Justice to the role of Dumbledore.
I hate it being in 51% already in rotten tomatoes. What the hell. -_-
it was pretty bad lol newt saved this movie with his moves
Madds did a great job. He should've been cast as Grindelwald since the start. (No offense to Johnny)
I just hope we get the next 2 movies and that #cancelculture is not given a moral victory here.
Agreed. Cance-culture is so stupid and pathetic.
I know I'm 2 years too late.. But it would hit so much harder if he said "Who will love you now, Albus".. Using his first name would feel more personal
"Who'll love you now? Dumbledore!"
"I'm all alone"
my man Dumbledore is a certified sigma male
Albus says: "You are all alone."
I love these!
The explanation is they just said "f*** it" and did whatever they want regardless of if it makes sense or not.
im still wondering about the 6th case bunty had. im pretty sure she ordered the man to make 5 copies so it will be 6 cases including the real one. but the film only showed us 5, which i thought the 6th (whether real or fake) would be with tina in secrecy, but turned out i wasnt.
I think when done when dumbledore's brother look at him knowing that credence won't have much time left they decided that to put their differences aside and work together to save them to try to find a cure for him no matter how long it takes
Elixir of life, perhaps?
@@ojyochan That's the only thing that's going to save credence
I'm seeing FB3 2nite. What I'm looking forward to more than most is conversations concerning the events from FB2: the Scamander Bros talk about Letas last moments, Newt n Jacob speaking to Hicks about their perspective Goldsteins. All n all, looking forward to this movie.
I never think that Credence is Aberfoth’s son
I really wanted Dumbledore to ask jacob to teach moogle studies.
Still don't understand how the blood pact broke. It is said that Grindelwald attacked Credence who was Dumbledore's blood but then the blood pact should have attacked Grindelwald. Also Dumbledore keeps to many secrets to be considered pure of heart. It should have bowed before Jacob