Johnny Depp's Metadata Expert Testifies on Differences Between Amber Heard's Photos
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2022
- During the defamation trial on Wednesday, Johnny Depp's metadata expert witness testified on the differences between Amber Heard's exhibit photos. Bryan Neumeister stated that the colors in the photos had been modified and the file sizes were different.
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As a graphic designer, in simple terms, what he’s saying is that Amber’s team never provided the actual photos. And the photos that they did provide were screenshots and were altered/copied so that the original data could not be read. So when the lawyer is asking him, “You didn’t find any alterations, correct?” He’s asking a question that doesn’t make sense. It’s not the original photo. But the lawyer is saying, “Did you find evidence of alteration?” But he couldn’t either way because they gave them screenshots and copies. The actual photos that were presented were altered, either way. Because they were screenshots.
Thank you kind sir.
agreed, forensic security researcher here, that's exactly what the witness was saying. It's not a yes or no question per se, because of what @sin city quinn said, but what I would have said is "that's incorrect, I *DID* find evidence of alteration as I was not given original photos and that in and of itself is an alteration, so yes there was evidence of material alteration of the photo"
The lawyer had no idea what that meant and/or didn't want to know. That was so frustrating to see. I was yelling at the screen every time he'd ask the same question and kept saying it was a yes or no answer. When in fact it was not a yes or no answer.
Yeeess!!
@@jesusdamian2172 they frame it in a way to make it a yes or no. That's the lawyers job, is to present the questions in a way so that the only response allowed is good for them.
I applaud this man for calling out the cross examiner for trying to control the narrative👏
Time stamp please?
@@fakeaccount704 18:55
He said it again around 19:40
@@fakeaccount704 I'd start at 18:30
@@temavelasemthembu8390 thank you! I ended up finding it, but I appreciate it :)
The fact that he tried to discredit Mr. N by attacking his degree from almost 50 years ago is shameless. Mr. Neumeister is more credible than Amber’s entire case against Johnny.
SO SAD FOR REAL.SECOND HAND EMBARRASSMENT...
Yes, but it did make it so much more satisfying when Mr. Neumeister outsmarted that attorney.
U GOT THAT RIGHT GIRL
Right. Like where did Amber find these lawyers? Did no one else want the case because they were completely awful? Like even IF Amber was credible they still would be awful in representing her.
I have NEVER in my life seen an attorney say they forgot the question when they were ruled against and then try to avoid having the court reporter read it back. This is the kind of tactic my 7 year old uses to avoid answering when she knows she's been busted for doing something wrong and wants to gloss over it, especially when she's had a slip of the tongue and screwed herself 🤣
I liked that too lol. He didn't want him to answer and said they can just redirect but the judge was like well no, you asked and here is your answer now.
Is this the same lawyer who objected to his own question?
@@mish375 I think so
yes exactly!! and like a child tattling in his whiny voice “your honor! he’s not answering my question!” (crosses arms & stomps foot) lol omg so baddd
@@mish375 he does it again here i think like wtf
This should 100% be considered argumentative questioning. He is clearly badgering the witness into giving him the answer he wants. Unbelievably frustrating.
But he can't do it doesn't matter. The truth is the truth no matter how you slice it
agreed
This is what lawyers do it’s annoying for us public because we don’t see it on a daily basis
Judge is biased
Exactly but they cry hissy sissy fits everytime they think JD lawyers are being hard on there lieing witnesses 😂😂
This trial is such a disgrace: people are fabricating evidence and getting away with it with no consequences than a transient internet noise. Good for Johnny to have this level of support. Amber scares me to the core.
The sad thing is there are other women out there like her. My ex best friend did things like this. Just lucky enough she wasn't rich enough to get people to listen to her BS like amber. I wonder how many men get destroyed by rich crazy women.
I started pre law courses many many years ago... it's still my passion, but shortly there after decided it wasn't for me. I couldn't imagine defending a client that I knew was lying out their rear! This case is a prime example! How do you stand up there and defend Amber?! Her lawyers can't possibly ALL be that ignorant?! I have read over and over by Elains peers that she is brilliant, and very well respected in her field, and she just potentially ruined her career! I sure as heck hope Amber pays her team enough to live off of for some time, as they may not have much work after this garbage! Money talks for sure, but no amount of anything would place me behind that podium defending that woman!
Reminds me of the movie "Gone Girl" ... toxic feminism is NOT equality.
@@erincoveyhq9218 Well said!
her faces make me her pity party audio to johnny.
I love that he said, "you don't throw
away a phone with evidence on it". Absolutely Sir!
EXACTLY!!
sure but how many average people know that? maybe they think if they have digital or printed photos that's enough. in other words they don't know much about it.
@@theCosmicQueen she immediately get a lawyer and I'm sure she knew the importance of the phones.
@@theCosmicQueen As he stated, based on his experience people with evidence just don't throw out their phones. It was a statement based on his experience.
@@theCosmicQueen Amber stated numerous times that she had a mountain of evidence to support her claims, why would she throw a phone away or even have the need the duplicate photos and say they were from different dates!
Even if he was technically supposed to just answer questions yes or no, its misleading to do so and its impressive how stubbornly this witness stuck to the whole truth.
Lawyers love when witnesses answer with yes or no, hence why they always ask closed ended questions. It allows the lawyer to set the tone and create a narrative that helps their client. Any good witness will always answer with a free-form answer, and never(sometimes it can be helpful) with yes or no.
Yeah but it looks bad when you don't listen to what the judge orders
@@-Patali- But it's worse to lie just to be liked.
When this guy does it, it's impressive. When Amber does it, it's gaslighting 🙄
Amber has not answered a question by simply saying yes or no this entire time. She'll even repeat the question, reword it, and then give a quick answer. Funny how her team wants just a yes or no
"What data did you use?"
- "Well I used..."
"Pls answer the question!"
- "I am about to answer it. "
"Answer what?"
- "your question"
"What question?"
-Amber's Lawyers in a nutshell.
Hahahaha
Also the context of things that can't be answered as a yes or no question, and they continue to push the yes or no answer. Lawyers can be idiots too.
🤣
😁👍
@@soapa4279 just like their Client AH
Her whole legal team are so hostile, I truly applaud Mr Neumeister for handling that so well. A man who clearly knows what he's talking about.
Caged dogs bite
Coz they know they work for a liars.
He said he been to court many times. I'm sure he used to that hostile questioning.
Her legal team are garbage, just like her
they learned each other mannerism and energy
It's truly incredible how AH was able to find attorneys that are as unlikeable as she is. Also, I have so much respect for Mr. Neumeister.
My thought exactly!
It is not about the lawyers being unlikeable but rather the fact that her case, and the stories that she has presented as well as the witnesses who have deposed all evidence the fact that there are so many inconsistencies that point to fabrication. The lawyers are sadly faltering and possibly resorting to a more aggressive stance because of the fallacies in the case presented by Amber Heard and they are merely trying to do their best of defending their client, which is their duty.
amber's lawyer: " Be(e)n Rottenborn ",sounds like what happened at this guy's birth, who are his parents satan & the harpy?
They’re legally required to believe their client….
@@jaileigh But believing her and behaving like her are two very different things
Wow. That _"I don't recall the question, your Honor. We can move on."_ to circumvent the judge's ruling and stop the witness from truthfully answering the question _he_ asked but actually _doesn't_ want the answer to because he fought so hard to keep it out... has to be the most cowardly, pathetic move from Heard's team in this entire trial. And they'd already placed the bar _really_ high. So glad the judge didn't let him get away with it!
This 👆
I noticed that too... AH's lawyers are really something aren't they?
i don't think AH's Team is that bad... they are just trying to grap every straw they can get because of her lies, they know she's lying about everything and i bet, if they would've known that before the trial, they wouldn' t have taken this case just to ruin themselves
@@rabbitreloaded idk cause apparently this is the same group of lawyers who fought in the defamation case in Britain i think
@@itzelheruiz9139 they were. I think they got cocky because of that trial. They didn't have much to do and it was private
This guy is awesome. He didn’t allow AH’s goons to bully him. He is a wise man and spoke nothing but facts
I like this guy has a really good: I believe in the science vibe
Exactly, he was determined to tell the truth.
I liked how when the judge told him to answer the question with a yes or no, he refused and stuck to the facts of why it wasn't possible.
@@amandasmith7535 it is possible, the answer is no he doesn't hold a belief it was, since he can't tell.
I applaud this witness for standing his ground and not letting her lawyer manipulate the narrative.
It was insanely infuriating that the attorney couldn’t understand what the witness was saying yet continued to persist in obtaining a yes or no answer.
@@giiness508 and the judge wasn’t helping matters.
Exactly, his level of expertise clearly showed. He really put efforts in explaining the facts, yet the other party just won't listen
As someone who's been working with digital image files since the '80s, and who's worked in computer forensics, I can say that the metadata expert is spot-on with everything he was saying. Indeed, I'd say he's a lot more knowledgeable than probably most computer forensics workers on this topic (most don't get to the level of color charts, scopes, etc.). The Heard laywer's suggestion that he didn't know what he was talking about due to his education being in political science, and due to not having a computer forensics certification, is wholly without merit.
But how did he even become an expert in computer forensics when he has a degree in Political Science?
@@bbginc694 because you don’t have to major in something in college to be an expert at it? Did you not know that?
@@bbginc694 Personal experience here, _most_ people who I know who do highly specialised, technical careers like this did degrees which are, at best, tangentially related and learn 99% of what they know on-the-job.
@@Tony-gh8gg So what makes him an expert with no certifications? He testified he had no certifications in computer forensics?
@@bbginc694 A certification doesn’t necessarily hold much weight. Quality of your work does. How come 15% of programmers are completely self taught ? Because doing the work is what sharpens the skill not being certified or passing exams.
Neumeister is world renowned and widely recognized as a top leader in the field, he’s been featured on all kinds of media and interviewed etc, for him to put his name and brand out there for Johnny Depp is actually a big deal in the forensic technology world.
Thank you. The comments are so interesting to hear from people in the field!
And they have the audacity to tell him "You don't have a degree in Computer Science, correct?" Like Computer Science Degree has far more weight than owning and working in a Digital Forensics Company that literally specializes on testifying on Photo Evidence.
HE WAS ALSO IN THE JODI ARIAS TRAIL
@@veronicalr217 I thought his name and face looked familiar.
Tefft in the wild spotting
When someone tells you “There is no scientific way to examine the photo with the given evidence.” it means you didn’t give a original photo so it IS edited.
Amber didn't hand in her phone where all of this evidence came from lmfao. She's so guilty
Smart way to say you are laying B...lol
Absolutely 💯
@@PineappleBaconPizza That it self shows she has something to hide. JD gave everything, that's why they have personal txt msgs of him talking bad about ATurd.
It may have been copied (aside from the obvious photoshopping)
The sheer unwillingness to let the man stats facts speaks volumes to the guilt. If you have nothing to hide, you hear him out then rebut the statements.
💯💯💯
Anyone noticed that the court camera man stays more on Johnny?
Lol, the guy isn't even an expert. He has a political science degree 😂
@@jdavis8970 from 42 years ago. If he has then worked the past 30 years in that industry that would be experience no?
This is how cross-examination works, dude. Depp’s lawyers did that too. They only ask questions for getting the answers they need. Any unwanted data may drive the situation out of attorney’s control.
This is my personal nightmare. Being cross-examined in court around my area of expertise, by somebody who has no clue about the subject, for people who have no clue about the subject, all while maneuvering through weird rules of what can or cannot be said, and what the interrogator does not want me to say.
Not many can maintain resistance against peer pressure. This man has integrity and balls. Props to him. Respect.
@@fredrezfield1629 No He's Not. He's actually refusing to give "Yes Or No Responses" to Her Legal Teams peer pressure.
If He was WEAK (This is the correct spelling, You spelt it as A day off the week) In His Testimony why do You think they're running scared and trying to get Him to respond with Yes or No answers, that cannot be answered "Under Oath" with simple Yes or No's....
@@fredrezfield1629 she lost, get over it
The technical evidence surrounding her fake photos was gold. Best witness and expert so far.
I'd put him 2nd to Curry. She manhandled Amber's lawyers in the most professional way possible
I applaud him and Dr Curry for standing their ground, AH team is so mean and unpleasant, they act as if the witness is an enimy of theirs.
He had a couple great points that stood out to me, the photos were run through an editing software and those last photos were the same. He was not there to speculate who edited them, just that they were edited. Great witness
I’m not sure how she thought she could get away with that.
Sorry to bother, but what was the time stamp?
Justice always come thru..
I am so relieved this man stood his ground. Kudos to him for pushing back. The manipulation tactics are beyond detestable and blatantly obvious, too!
Right it’s so in ur face it’s not funny
@@trashsuitandy9750 Hey just put your trash suit back on. I mean if the shoe fits kind of situation. Maybe after doing so you'll see that accountability for false accusations is every bit as important as the things you listed. Good for you.
@@trashsuitandy9750 Did you? I mean, you're commenting on a video of this trial and your implication is that both is impossible. 🤔
@@trashsuitandy9750 And yet you're commenting on a 35 min video. xD
Btw, people CAN do both. ;)
Yeah the team was absolutely desperate
The attorney "conveniently" forgets his quest
so dishonest.....
I hate when these lawyers are so disrespectful. I know it's "their job," but this witness is so nice and professional.
I wanted to slap him so bad.
I hate all of Heard’s lawyers. I find them condescending.
Amber’s lawyer asked him if he has a degree 🤣🤣. 4 years of school doesn’t even COMPARE to 40 years of experience in digital forensics🤣😂🤣
“I understand your need to control the narrative” witness is a BOSS.
He is fs probably a bookie or something. Something about that man tells me he doesnt just analyze meta data if you know what im on about.
@@syniister7055 well he did major in poli sci; something close to forming a thesis and arguments on case studies like law would be like.
@@saykig yeah but hes a G about it, u know he "takes care of it"
BOOM!! *CLAPPING*
This is twice that this female lawyer on Amber's side has accused a witness of only showing on this case for wanting "fame" or to "be on television." First it was that gentleman who was an Ex-TMZ employee, now this airport employee. They are running out of things to say, it's pathetic.
Also the fellow that was the manager of the trailer park was accused of wanting to be famous!
Like facts are facts lady, doesn't mean everyone wants fame. Doesn't matter if they do, that doesn't make the facts less factual lol
She's entirely pathetic. I feel like we are watching her develop alzeimers
I'm surprised they haven't objected for relevance since AH's team does that for everything- like when they are asking that woman about AH's demeanor after assaulting someone. Like W T F
@@RachelBlomstrom yeah they are all over the place all of the time lol
I like how he called them out on controlling the narrative and then pointed out that if the pictures were pivotal then why was the phone disposed of. The phone itself is evidence.
This is the most shocking witness of them all. He is not giving his opinion, he is not talking about actions and violence he witness BUT he is just stating FACTS!
I loved his couldn't careless approach and just focusing on the facts like you stated. JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY DEPP
I found this disturbing.
At 8mins 1sec.
A moment of outstanding falseness.
How quickly can she change her expression when she thinks no one is watching. Scary.
@@lordnevets9184 I thought I was the only one who noticed that!
@@lordnevets9184 same here. Huge fake smile went straight back to seriousness
She has a lot of make up on her cheek.
Her lawyers are so hostile. The one isn't asking a question about the pictures that can be answered as yes or no. The other lawyer thinks everyone wants to be on TV and is extremely rude and condescending about it.
So true!
Because they have ZERO..so have to go after his witnesses in such a hostile manner
They are not hostile, they are just scared that they will get exposed, they are just lashing out on everyone trying to intimidate people. They are just being overly defensive because they are genuinely scared of their lies getting exposed.
It seems that they get more aggressive in their tone as it gets towards the end of the trial
They want to irritate that the guy needs to admit that he is wrong and they’re right and heard was telling the truth 🙄
"You are trying to control the narrative" FINALLY someone had the courage to say what they have been doing since the beginning. And I have no idea why the judge seems to be favouring Amber's layers against these witnesses these last days.
Surprised the judge didn’t demand he repeat his question
I loved how he said that. Hopefully the jury will understand that manipulated versions of several photos exist, the Heard legal team are trying to shut down expert discussion around the colour and contrast changes that were made, and that they are not evidence of injury.
money.. its called money
@@kilcitykitty i doubt it, her rulings made sense if you know about the metadata evidence ruling and other stuff about court proceedings. and she did force the question to be repeated and answered, she’s also ruled heavily on depp’s lawyers’ side this entire trial. perhaps heard’s lawyers are finally understanding how a trial works and are making fair objections lol, having watched most of this trial the judge has certainly been fair. she seems almost to be annoyed by heard’s legal team’s unprofessionalism.
@@gossipgal1418 she did demand the question be read back, he stated he couldn’t recall it and it would have been confrontational and unprofessional to ask him to repeat it himself
This witness is brilliant! He knows how to put his point through against such hostile questioning.
He literally put his hand up and spoke out “ I know your trying to control the narrative “ 🤣 he was great! Good for him and I’m so glad the jury is witness in seeing all this & how awful her lawyers are
Great witness
and did you see the young one that "take care " for paparazzi ? after AH lawyer accused him for wanting 15 min of fame and he told her he could thing the same way about her taking AH case :D gold moments . sorry for my english and have nice day !
@@baeh3657 I think off the record she properly would accept that term lol. Then she can finally go home and be free of wasting time with Amber.
@@baeh3657 Your English is just fine. And I agree with you.
That was golden! I’m so glad he stuck to his guns and didn’t give into the constant badgering in attempts to get “yes” or “no” answers.
I've been a photo retoucher for 15 years and this man is SPOT ON. When an image is photographed in its RAW FORM which is the most accurate and the most largest form, you get ALL THE INFORMATION IT COMES WITH LIKE , time, what aperture/fstop you used, what lens you used, what camera your using, etc. Once you put it into a editing software like I use Photoshop and you start changing the photos sizing the information starts to get compressed, lose data, lose its rawness (its authentic realness) especially when you convert it from raw to jpeg which makes the image a COPY and not the REAL THING. RAW shows the real deal and anything else can distort the image.
But isn't it very obvious the images are the same though? I mean any person with an average sized brain can tell the two photos are the same with one edited to have more saturation.
I mean the hair, the expression, facial deformities etc. are all in the exact same spot.
@@guitarboy0211 exactly! She's trying to gaslight the whole world the stup!d teard! She's really not as smart as she thinks she is lol 🤣
@@guitarboy0211 You don't get idea of this thing bro just ask, it doesn't matter if they look similar, as an expert of photography and photo retouching too with 11 years of experience, I myself can tell you that saturation matters that much cuz it changes moods and facts, crop even with 1% zoom in can change a lot to the viewers and can affect anyone's judgement, lastly and which is more important, its not about showing thet these photos are photoshopped, they only try show and illustrate the false claims of Amber's which means ( the judge and jury will know that this all are lies told by her ) Amber Heard today and her team are done, Johnny has won the case it done 100% no one on earth could prevent Amber from losing now.
Yeah, I've been retouching for only five years but that shiet was the first fcking thing I've learned about digital pictures lmao
@@lukavisuals1065 I'm not really questioning the methods or saying Johnny's team shouldn't be bringing in witnesses to further solidify their case.
I'm just saying, the two images that were shown, I went online and examined them myself. They look pretty much the same. It took me a total of 10 seconds to come to the conclusion that they are the same photograph but I do understand the nuances of it all and I'm not trying to be argumentative with you either.
It's just that I expect the jury (or rather hope) they come to the same conclusion I did coz I was in fact cringing that she would even claim the photos are different and shot at two different times of day.
Also thanks for your insight, appreciate the explanation.
How can the judge allow the lawyer to pose his question so falsely and manipulatively over and over again?
It's like asking "can you say there was any alteration from the original?" while the expert says "there's no way to say there was any editing if you don't have the original to compare with"
Exactly.
Drives me nuts when the lawyer keeps saying “it’s a yes or no question” when the answer is not yes or no. Kudos to this guy for saying he’s trying to control the narrative. That’s all lawyers do anyway.
Plus amber NEVER answered with yes or no 😂 so stfu right
@Johnny Depp bruh u rly thought 😂
"Objection your honor, I wasn't expecting him to actually be an expert in the field because he doesn't have a computer science degree from 42 years ago!"
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lmao! for real!
This judge is incredible. That moment when Amber's lawyer "forgot" his own question when he didn't like the answer, and the judge asked to stop and recover the question from the transcript.
Monday she was acting totally different
She's moody
She’s not moody she’s fair lol.
Her lawyers are an embarrassment to their profession. Nasty, rude and pushy don't like them.
I was already having the doubt that the judge is kind of on the side of Amber. A lot of times the judge have sustained the objections from the evil's lawyers by not letting the witnesses to finish speaking. If Amber wins this case that means the western society has been destroyed due to extreme feminism.
18:50 I think it’s noteworthy that the only time Johnny seemed to get frustrated or “angry” was when someone else was being bullied pretty hard on his behalf, and just this one time. Amber lost her cool on the stand in defense of herself, and repeatedly at that.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 speaks volumes about each of them
funny user ID....
It gave me such anxiety watching how awful they were to him
The way AH's attorney's behave tells us VOLUMES. They don't want even ONE extra word said, because their afraid it will reveal THE TRUTH. SMH
Yep, anytime the truth is about to come out they object or hearsay it. They won't let Johnny's witnesses talk but go forbid their paid witnesses can, smh.
That's their job
I'm a graphic designer. What he's saying about not being able to decipher the true history or Metadata of a photo is true. If it's a screenshot, it's no longer the original, whether it looks the same or not.
You can also see from the screenshots that the two copies had data loss so some data have been edited away hence the pictures are manipulated.
I'm no expert but from what you're saying you could edit a photo and then take a screenshot of that edited photo hence bypassing edit metadata evidence?
@@richcrypto92 Something like that. Everytime you took SCREENSHOT of photos, the screenshot version should be treated as copies.
We need the raw photo taken by smartphone device camera
@@Nightdreaux22647 Exactly… The phone itself. Why wouldn’t Amber keep the phone with her “Mountains” of evidence on it
Seems like it's common sense.
I find it telling that when the judge overruled allowing Mr. Neumeister to answer the question Ms. Heards lawyer didn't remember his question and pushed for redirect. Once the lawyer knew his question could not be answered in the way he pleased he no longer desired an answer. That speaks to a question seeking to silence the truth.
The most hilarious part was when the lawyer was trying to get the expert to say no by twisting the question and gave the expert the perfect out by being able to say "thats incorrect" the lawyer bamboozled himself 😂😂😂
Shrimp
Am I crazy or did Amber’s lawyer purposely forget his question so the Metadate Expert wouldn’t answer in the way he didn’t want him to?
Thought the same thing!
Absolutely 💯
But that expert did not forget lol
wish the judge would have reprimanded him, instead of looking up the question for him
You are not crazy. He did not forget. He accidentally opened the door for the expert to talk more about the metadata. The judge had restricted his testimony at Heards team request. But bc the lawyer asked the question, he opened the door. And once it’s open it can’t be shut.
When she swore that she had not edited ANY of her photos, and also swore that the side view profile of the (claimed) facial cheek bruise was two different photos in different lighting, when it was beyond obvious that the two were the EXACT same photo, only with different saturation - she blew any credibility that she had left. Which wasn’t much.
That was the moment for me as well.
This is a criminal action by someone on AH’s side or Heard herself.
If she or they didn't do anything wrong, have nothing to worry about. Why are they trying to prevent this guy from talking and squirming in their chairs?! Also I can't stand her lawyer's approach, makes me want to scream! 🤔🤬
@@shannonelyse6506 Exactly!
Exactly my 9 year old said they were the same photo that each strand of hair was in the same place.
I’m learning a lot from the witnesses on Johnny’s side. All of them so eloquent and intelligent. Explaining things where everyone can understand.
As a photographer, it’s ridiculous for me to listen to the lawyer keep asking him this question and it is because THE LAWYER DOESN’T UNDERSTAND what a photo is an what a screenshot is. So the expert is TRYING HARD TO explain he cannot read data from a photo that IS NOT A PHOTO. The LAWYER has sent him SCREENSHOTS and you cannot read data from a screenshot where the photo is taken, the resolution, GPS, focal lenght, pixels, EXIF data info in the photo. THE LAWYER is trying to ask within a field that he HAS NO CLUE of. SAD SAD SAD SAD….
they did it deliberately so the meta can’t be read.
Norbert Bryan Neumeister is probably the best witness we've seen in this trial. Really admire how he firmly stood his ground, while still remaining level-headed. What a strong, courageous, intelligent man who won't let anyone try to falsely twist the narrative.
He. Shld talk to a jehovahs witness!!! Ha
true
Love him so much u use the govt name
Because he's a scientist, and deals in facts and provable (or not) data.
That's why He's the CEO
IT degree or not, this man clearly knows what he’s talking about. By far the most damaging witness to Amber Heards case and claims
The guy knows his stuff for sure …
Degrees don’t always mean much.
not every career needs a degree.
Oh, so many witnesses and so much evidence damaging to her
@@CakeBossMom I often find that those who are ultra book smart, don't always have the common sense and physical capability to do a great job
Interestingly enough Mr. Nuemeister was a very neutral witness. He walked a balanced road initially by trying to explain that getting a hold of Amber’s phone is the best way of determining the authenticity of the evidence presented. Unfortunately, AH’s team didn’t want that answer. They wanted a definitive “no, the images weren’t altered”. Here is where I tipped my hat to Bryan:- He KNEW that the photos were screen grabs from the get-go and could have categorically stated that the images presented were doctored. Instead, he gave AH’s attorney not one, not two, not three, not four, but some 5 to 6 times to restate the question instead of immediately spitting a plot line in favor of Johnny. It was at 20:02 when he became visibly fed up that he stated that AH’s team actually altered the photos by the very nature of how they presented it. An obvious luminary in his field and an upstanding individual for not stooping to skullduggery.
The word 'Skullduggery' always reminds me of Terry Pratchett.
Did you mean to say instead "spitting a plot line in favor of Amber" and not "Johnny"?
@@neliaferreira9983 no, Nuemeister refrained from giving a narrative to Johnny:- recall Nuemeister was Johnny’s witness. If he gave in and said “yes, I have found evidence that the photos were edited”, and left it at that without an explanation, that would have been a tainted response misleading the jury as it could be interpreted as some intent to manipulate the photo on AH’s part.
However, he was trying to explain that may not necessarily be the case as the photos presented are either screen-grabs or backups of backups (3rd generation photos) and to that point, what is presented in evidence wouldn’t stand to scrutiny, which could just be an honest/rookie mistake:-
that’s why the original phone is important. To put it simply, Mr. Nuemeister did not seek to offer a conclusive opinion on the authenticity of the photos, even after demonstrations that showed noticeably different visible versions of the same photo. He was simply saying, we have no way of knowing which wouldn’t be an outright win for Johnny nor an outright loss for Amber.
Compare that AH’s witness who shot his own credibility in the foot by stating with a degree of scientific certainty that he found the “source” and “originals” and therefore, the photos not edited…albeit being found on IPhones/IPads made months after the relationship. And the sad thing is, I’m willing to bet that not even Amber’s own expert was given the original phone. Note also that Nuemeister was able to trace some photos to an IPhone 6…a device which matches the timeline of events…should tell you who the real expert is.
Ambers panicked she knows they're the same photo in different lighting. Her head keeps spinning 😂😂
There should be an objection based on ‘coercion’. That was brutal to listen to, and I’m relieved the witness did not give in to it. 😡
They are beyond desperate at this point.
Thank goodness for the years of experience testifying in trials. He was so chill.
Leading is usually the objection when the one doing the questioning tries to get someone to answer a specific way
It was leading to me, but Depp's lawyers did a poor job objecting to this.
@@sovo1212 He was Depp’s witness. Why would they have to object to leading? Nothing the witness had to say would hurt JD, only AH.
I love how she shows these photos with small little bruises,but claims to be beat so bad and punched repeatedly,assaulted with a bottle and she takes pictures of the mirror??!!Hello what's wrong with this picture?it didn't happen!because if she was beat the way she explained it,falling all over glass trying to get her footing,while being punched in the face(with all those rings)assaulted with a bottle she would of most definitely needed to go to the hospital period!!!!She says she didn't know if the bottle was broke ,but wasn't concerned to be checked out by medical personal. SHES SCREAMING IM A LIER!
Well said!!! 💯 Agree with you.
her features are so fine, those cheekbones do not look like they have been hit repeatedly, that nose has not been broken, especially without medical attention
It's because she's trying to appear simultaneously hurt, yet strong.
Just look at how insulted she was when Camille called her a "victim"!
She can't stand the idea of being weak, despite claiming to have been violently attacked on so many, different occasions.
She is crippling her own case under the weight of her gigantic ego, and contradicting her own testimony due to her uncontrollable narcissism.
Her cheap af, clown lawyers must be pulling their hair out, desperately trying to clean up the messes she keeps making!
Yeah, not to bring up a buried skeleton or anything, but for the sake of comparison look at Rihanna's injury. That's real, no one is gonna argue, and that was a single round of violence. It's absolutely tragic but the incident was still not even as severe as what Amber is claiming here, and Ri got that much injury on her face. And here Amber is, after the repeated alleged assault with rosy cheeks
@@SaltiBebe Becasue everything Amber have said so far has been a lie.
This is the perfect example of the court system being broken. How were they allowed to show screenshots and not present the actual photo for forensics, because the photo will prove it was tampered with
cropped or resized photos aren't the same as tampered photos; that would be if there was a fake bruise painted onto her arm. we have no evidence that happened, but that the pics were copied onto other devices-- maybe for printing.
@theCosmicQueen it's unacceptable to not bring ORIGINALS to court..... when I had to go to court for harassment and online stalking, my whole phone was evidence. I didn't delete anything, nothing did I change.
I have NEVER in my life seen lawyers ask someone a question and object to their OWN question until I've watched amber heards lawyers!!! And on top of that he said he tried to lie and say he didn't remember his OWN question he asked them seconds prior, they're as bad as Amber.
I'm completing a degree in Cyber Intelligence and just took a Digital Forensics course last Fall, to me it's blatantly obvious that Amber's team is trying to misrepresent EVERYTHING about this topic to an uninformed jury. I know enough to complete his sentences when they interrupt him - every single time they do so it's because what he's about to say will either provide VERY important context, or show the absolute criminal degree to which they're trying to get the jury to adopt a fallacy. It doesn't matter if the photos he was given look 1:1 identical to the original, they are completely different files and all he can do is speak to the ones he was given. FFS, the picture at 6:08 is literally a picture of a computer screen, showing a picture that's on a piece of paper, and Amber's team is trying to make the jury just think it's the exact same as the original. She's happy to provide that BS as evidence, but not the source file of the picture on that paper. I can guarantee if he was provided the actual device used to take the pictures, it would be complete game over for Amber Heard. This is absolutely disgusting conduct by all of Amber's team and I can't express that enough to those uninformed on this topic - they're obstructing the truth at every single corner in this testimony.
Lol they can't argue with the testimony, so they play narrative games
Wow, thank you for that info.
I think even a not-technologically-literate jury can get the gist that the Heard team are trying to maneuver within extremely narrow limitations of what's actually going on; and that they have to do so out of a defensiveness for what the guy would otherwise reveal.
I didn’t take those courses and I can tell they are scum of the earth. They play dirty and when you play like that you are guilty. I am also an empath and you can feel real and fake easily 💕
I concur completely.
Lawyer: You claim to be a math expert, but isn’t true that you have never divided a number by zero?
Witness: Well it’s not possible for anyone to…
Lawyer: It’s a yes or no question. Please answer the question.
Witness: Well first you must understand that in math numbers cannot be divided by…
Lawyer: Objection, non-responsive!
love this!!! explains it all
😂😂😂
best comment 😂💯
You say you are a fashion designer, but isn't it true you have never sown two tires together?
I would say 5 divided by zero the answer is 5.
Needs to be said that even though a yes or no option may be given to an expert witness, it is the expert witnesses job to provide an accurate response / answer. And the way the legal team were badgering for simple yes / no answers is disgusting.
stupidest thing i’ve ever seen. i would have said “i’ve already answered the question.”
Amber's whole body language here shows that she knows exactly what she did and realizes that she is about to be found out. She is nervous and avoiding eye contact; even hiding bits of her face...She honestly thought she was so smart, that Johnny would be so submissive and never take her to court, bring experts to debunk her lies. I am so glad the jury saw right through her...
Hats off to Mr. Neumeister for standing his ground and not letting her attorney push his narrative on him to incite the answers he wanted. He clearly can tell the photos have been altered but can't be allowed to give his opinion on it due to the aggressive and misleading nature of the line of questioning.
He has to say yes or no just like depps lawyers ask of Amber's witnesses. Depp lawyer talks over people disrespectfully and forces their silence.....are we watching the same trial lol
It wasn't misleading or aggressive. It was answer yes or no. That is how big people conduct trials. This isn't a TV show. The question was did you find evidence.....the answer was no because he couldnt... .doesn't matter why he couldnt.....that's for depp lawyers to question
@@HollyBonAlibi I'm aware it's a real court case and I respect your opinion on the matter. Compared to the others it was more aggressive. However, it is clearly misleading when you ask for an answer on something that can't be answered honestly because of the way someone is phrasing the question. Hopefully you at least can admit there is foul play involved with the photos looking identical though.
Telling the truth is the only option in a courtroom . Look up procedure.
@@donaldnolan5272agreed foul play 4sure
We literally have no idea when Amber’s injury photographs were taken and they have tried to block the metadata coming into evidence every step of the way. Disgraceful…
Amber never turned in her phone I believe where all of these pictures supposedly came from.
"injury"photos, would be a more accurate way to refer to them
@@kiwibob223 your right about that😂😂
I reckon she took them after she had those ridiculous cheek implants put in.
Like the man was saying, people don't want to get rid of their phones because of the evidence on them. He was implying Amber actually gave her phone up, so who knows when those photos were taken.
I just hate how hostile can they be with anyone who’s not their team. I mean, LET HIM TALK FOR GS
I love this guy. Great job Mr. Neumeister. You are brilliant amd did absolutely amazing 👏
Quite frankly... Amber's lawyer stating "I don't recall my question" is SUCH a cop out and absolutely disrespectful. I mean, cause you don't want the answer you want to throw your little tantrum?? I think not.
In all fairness, this was the one time I could empathize with him. I too forgot the exact wording of the question (the semantics of which were apparently relevant) in the dozen or so seconds they were talking to the judge.
That wasn't what he did. The judge sustained the objection Depp's lawyers had to him trying to not let the answer the expert wanted to give. This means the expert was told he could answer. However because he asked the question again, the lawyer decided the best thing to do was to say "I can't remember too, don't worry let's move on"". But Depps's lawyers jumped and got the court to read the question from the transcript so that he could answer it. It was never a tantrum, it was a tactic to try and fix his inability to get the witness to say something that discredited his previous evidence.
How could werthers forget the question,he asked it twice and had it in his notes
This man is incredible. Can’t stand the lawyer. But this witness is SO HELPFUL for this lawsuit.
yeah, that lawyer is just so aggravating and annoying.
@Rose Anne Boushard then how do you explain the metadata stating they’re screenshots and not original iphone camera photos?
@Rose Anne Boushard we’re waiting for you to answer the question above my comment!!
@Rose Anne Boushard girl what 🤣🤣 don’t tell me you actually believe that
@Rose Anne Boushard I’m going to take this as you’re probably a troll. because no one actually believes that.
This attorney on Depps side handling the images the AH team provided is reallly good, she did a great job.
AH had a legal team who project and personify her character. Absolutely rude, disrespectful and loathsome. Pathetic behaviour towards witnesses. JD's lawyers asked the same type of questions with no animosity. I watched some the case before but only seeing this witness video now.
I am shaking head as he is shaking head.... as a photographer I understand all terms... and I don't know how much more facts he can say....
Exactly! People who don't have some knowledge regarding the photo or this memory back up stuff did not understand the magnitude of this testimony...
If there's even a single person on the jury who understands vaguely any of this stuff he'll totally be anti Amber by now, not that people needed this to see how fake her case was
I hope there's a photographer in the jury
Sadly, as a photographer and involved in the industry for more than 40 years. This witness is speaking a language none of them understand. Facts over truth....
I don't understand, can someone explain it??.
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Like; I don't know what Metadata is..
as someone working in digital media daily, that gentleman couldn't have been clearer to me. I only hope the jury is educated enough, to understand the level of tampering
Amber’s whole demeanour during this testimony screams BUSTED! When she edited those pics, she never thought they’d be picked apart by a metadata expert. The reason being because she never though Johnny would stand up for himself and sue her!
She continues to pass notes and smirk
Exactly! When they were showing all the pictures of her face and stuff earlier in the trial even I could tell it was multiple different edits of the same picture! Amber's lawyers are literally trying to prove Johnny's witnesses aren't trustworthy. 🙄🙄
Busted for sure! Amber had just told camille that she handed over her phone for forensic testing and her photos were all determined to be the originals😂😂😂
How are those pictures even legal to present in court as evidence? Can't even authenticate that they are real. That seems the same as allowing hearsay
bullshhht. she could have done bare minimum like correct it from green to real skin tone, or added enough lighting to make it visible. that's also called editing. or cropped or resized them. None of which does anything to create a fake bruise. Snapshots can actually lighten up a bruise in the original image so it won't look as dark and bad as it really is. Rather than the opposite.
This is actually a case of ignorance and lack of knowledge from all sides apart from the witness.
I love the judge for most of what she's done so far in this trial to be fair, but this is one particular bias that sticks out when you have a lack of technical knowledge in a field.
AH's lawyer should not be allowed to force an answer they want and JD's lawyer should have argued more for their expert witness's right to answer with clarification .
And the judge should not instruct the witness to checkbox tick something he's clearly found to be unanswerable, as an expert.
it is outside of the judge’s duty. in cross examination, you ask leading questions which are questions that demand a yes or no answer. it was on depp’s team to object to the question correctly. if there is no way to object to the question, the witness must answer it yes or no. court proceedings are also very technical, and all of the lawyers are aware of the way testimonies work. the purpose of redirect is for clarification, where they can ask an open-ended question and the witness can give a more nuanced answer. you can’t cross examine after redirect, which is beneficial and lends to the idea that most issues of testimony are more nuanced than yes or no answers. this is why you saw the lawyer during redirect ask a question that allowed the expert to clarify his answer to the specific question he didn’t want to answer yes or no to, and then nothing further.
@@zoesolomon7773 I understand- then the witness can clarify on redirect ...but there are questions that just cannot be answered via 'yes' or 'no'. If the witness answers 'yes' or 'no' to one of those questions the answer is recorded in the transcript and can be used against the witness later/forever. So, it's a very vulnerable position - the witness is obliged to lie. The redirect maybe won't save the witness in a later cross in a future trial because they will show and read the transcript and they will ask: 'On date Y did you testify X under oath?' and again 'yes' or 'no'? Then on the redirect, the lawyer can forget to ask 'In a previous testimony why did you reply X?' (because he/she doesn't know by heart that the witness clarified that answer in a previous redirect) and the witness is then potentially seen as a liar. I don't understand of law but shouldn't be the witness protected on these questions?
the only relevant part was, "is there any evidence" of making fake bruises on photos. that is, cold hard evidence. otherwise - nothing else matters of his testimony. That was a yes or a no. If yes, then ask more questions. If no, that's the end of it.
Thumbs Up to Mr. Neumeister for being calm and smart👏 Amber Heard's lawyer was clearly badgering the witness because they have been caught lying and editing evidence. Respect!
isn't forcing this witness to answer the question with a yes or no answer the same as forcing him to lie under oath?
At times I think so yea. Because sometimes it's neither yes or no or both if the question is vague enough or twisted enough.
This is why I don't get why more witnesses just straight up refuse to answer twisted questions posed by ambers team. Like yeah, I get it, you are instructing me to answer yes or no and the Judge legit said I need to answer the question. However, why can't they just respectfully refuse to answer the question if it is put in a way that will affect my integrity to remain under Oath...
That's why they have redirect,the other team can come back and allow him elaborate
Thats why he said incorrect
Exactly. That’s my thought.
JD has had some great people testifying for him, this guy was another. Cool calm and collected and really knew his stuff which made it very hard to cross examine him.
My thoughts too. And so cool, he insists on staying in a scientific/philosophical metaverse/narrative where an answer can't be given. Though I'm surprised the judge accepted yet another 'That's incorrect!'!
soft spoken but confident in his views
Thomas ikr! I feel like most of JD's witnesses have been credible and reserved. Compared to most of AH's witnesses that became emotional, tried to oversell, and were often misleading or lying like her 'friends.' Idk why so many of AH's witnesses felt the need to try to influence the jury so blatantly, but I suspect for at least some of them, it was insecurity.
@@patricknez7258 AH witnesses were all rambling looney quacks like her...I mean seriously.
I love this man eventho he’s being cross examined, has a lot of confidence. Go Team Johnny
The fact that they submitted anything but the original photos to begin with is suspect enough...
Bravo to this Expect for hanging tough through this hostile questioning from Amber’s circus team.
The sly and smug exchanges between Amber and her lawyer during the constant objections from her badgering attorney tactics was sickening!
Today was worse than normal. I never like to look at her but today I literally couldn’t stand to look at her face!
Very sickening
Her true colors are coming through
That is so true
She was obnoxious today. Wanted to rub that smug look off her face.
SHE is sickening 😒
AH’s lawyer humiliated himself by rephrasing his yes/no question with a ‘correct’, making it easier for the witness to answer with ‘INCORRECT’ , useless lawyer 🤣🤣🤣
Laughing at this.. the lawyer actually had a chance for this one because the judge had allowed him! Lol
Her lawyer is so scared of this witness speaking to the mera data which would should conclusively for the jury she tampered with the photos.
nope. just cropping or resizing does that. or saving to a thumb drive or disc. nothing at all suggests that the bruise is a fake, but totally real looking, photoshopped bruise.
32:30 you literally see johnny shake his head and say “wow” it’s crazy because half the people that have gone up to testify is accused of wanting some sort of “screen time” when in fact just want to share what they know 😂🤦🏾♀️
Yeah. Pretty disgusting that they try to portray the "everyday people" witnesses as just wanting to be on TV. And they try to portray the expert witnesses as unqualified or lying because they got paid to lie by JD team or both.
Probably the most devastating witness testimony to AH's case. If a juror was still on the fence about who to believe, his testimony made all the difference and likely sealed her fate. It was PERFECT that they didn't put him on until this specific time. He earned his invoice amount.
He charges 999,999 per case
@@kiloton1920 so?
@@elly00177 pretty sure he's joking man 😆
@@kiloton1920 I swear I saw u putting on the same comment on some other video few days back 🥸
@Oliva Olive Must be a sad life eh
Basically he PROVED she lied on the stand, why won't she be called on it by the judge? It is perjury pure and simple! She should be fined or even get to jail for LYING under oath!
I hope that near the end they call Amber on the stand again and pull out every lie she said. They proved that it was not 2 different pictures taken with and without light on as she claimed and I really hope they call her out on that. They can't accuse her of modifying the pictures because evidence of that can't be proven but they can certainly point out she lied about it being 2 pictures and show them both side by side for the jury to see at least one is definitely modified in some ways.
They most def wouldn’t just stop the case they’d probably wait till after to bring up court charges and so she can probably incriminate herself further
She also lied about leaking the photo to tmz
Bc it's not a criminal case
@@breajh8965 but proves she knowingly committed perjury under oath she lied under oath it's a crime
Glad to see the judge has a sense of humor when she said the court reporter voice changed.
I saved all of my original photos from my abuser, and still have my old phone with the original photos from 10 years ago. If there were any truth in her statement she would have been able to provide the proof. I understand things may happen and that people can lose evidence from moving, fires, displacement. However, she saved a bunch of photos in a editing app...which is highly questionable. Plus, she didn't protect her phone with all of her evidence knowing that she is going to be on a infamous trial? Major red flags here!
I kept the phones with my ex's abusive messages and calls.
I never said anything about his behavior but I needed to convince myself that I wasn't crazy.
The fact Amber heard lawyers are trying so hard to object powerful crucial strong evidence is quite disgusting.
Even to the point they object to their own questions 💀💀💀
That's literally their job though...
Their job is to win that’s why Its true lawyers are liars
@@deepblack2193 That's not a fair assessment. The lawyers job is to provide the client every legal right afforded under the law.
If we see it, the jury sees it. They made this witness's testimony even more powerful by the way AHs atty tries to refute it during cross, even attempting to discredit his knowledge. Anyone watching would have seen that this witness knows EXACTLY what he's talking about .. This witness is one if, if not the most, devastating to AH's case.
@@B_Bodziak which includes supporting their fabricated lie as seen in this case. We live in a world where OJ walked free and Kardashian became a household name.
I don’t know what that legal team cost Johnny but they’re worth every cent. So on point and the expert witnesses they’ve call have been very good
It suck tho right, that this can happen to a common man who doesn't have the finances and resources to hire such great litigators and that itself can cost them their whole life/reputation, everything. That someone else as vile as her can infact get away with it and has for so long.
Around 1200$/hour for the 3 people that are there with him
Amber Heard's lawyers asking most of the witnesses if they are aware the hearing is televised and accusing them of just wanting their 15 minutes of fame is so incredibly ironic considering who they have as a client
How many times does he have to say there’s no way to tell?? If I had been on the stand, I would’ve given the same answer, even if it had taken all night long for that attorney to give up.
Lawyer: what other data did you use?
Answer: “Extractio…”
Lawyer: “objection, beyond the scope”
Lawyer: “what other data did you use?”
Answer: “Vecor..”
Lawyer: Objection!
Why is he asking him a question he’s refuses to let him answer?
This statement is extremely hilarious 😂😂 and correct. Love it.
It's incredibly infuriating to watch, not to mention exceedingly inappropriate behavior.
@@ufodeath I'm only 15 minutes into the video and it's already infuriating me because I work with computer forensics aswell and seeing him not being allowed to explain is bloody irritating!! argh
It wasn't the answer he was expecting
Fear, pure and simple fear
Him: asks the same question 3 times
Also him: doesn't even let the witness take breath without interrupting
Very obnoxious right?!
32:15 The lawyer was trying to lead the witness by forcing words and false claims into the witness's testimony. That's wrong and not a defense. That's leading the narrative to please the lawyer's client not a testimony. Sick behavior by a lawyer. WOW! They should fire her.
This trial just makes the court system as a whole look disgusting.
that’s because it is disgusting
It's like asking an art curator if a piece of van Gogh painting is genuine, by showing the curator a photograph of said painting. There is no way the curator can tell from a photo of a painting; let him examine the real thing! Here, the curator is being coerced to say that in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the van Gogh painting in the photograph must be genuine.
Well said!
Love a good analogy 👏 👌
Yes, thank you. Precisely
Amazing. Effing. Analogy.
I love that the witness is sticking to the truth.
to lies
The amount of disrespect that lawyer has faced this witness with is unbelievable and should be unacceptable in a court!!!
The photo guy from 20:10-21:00. That 50 seconds worth of testimony from the photo expert guy was a HUGE gift to Depp and his team. Awesome!! job. Really incredible work.
This expert made me feel how underappreciated elder people are in our society
That lawyer was disgustingly rude
Ageism is real in discrimination.
He’s not elderly! He’s what, early sixties tops?
@@ejws1575 he said elder, not elderly
@@British719 you're saying the elder aren't elderly?
As a computer engeneer I feel his frustration. It's pretty hard making complex things understandable, and being interrupted or even questioned just because your explanation is not "easy" enough drives you crazy
What's your GPU, CPU and RAM
I mean, they weren't even objecting that it wasn't easy enough to understand... They were just objecting to him speaking.
@@rei_cirith Literally. I was almost certain at one point they were gonna object to him breathing
@@georgiaa6857YES
If you watch from 7:55, AH speaks to those behind her, smiling widely, turns forward and her face completely changes. There’s no transition from one expression to another. It is bizarre.
That was so scary when I noticed!
Sociopath!!!
I love his professionalism, the way he responds , he didn’t allow him self to be bullied..
The facts are!!!
that the pictures showed to the public was different from the actual photos
He was firm and continued to stand firmly by the facts. He is such a pro!
yeah but how different. So they changed in size? they changed to make it light enough to see? cropped it for printing? or what. No proof of making fake realistic looking bruises though. That's entirely different and requires a real good graphics person/program. I doubt you can make em on a phone. . still they had NO data saying the bruise was fake.
@@theCosmicQueen because they couldn’t.. they weren’t the raw photos, NOBODY could, ambers team purposely did that so the actual data was no longer there after being compressed and losing a lot of it.
are you actually on amber heard’s side…? hopefully now that you see she’s lost the case you know who’s in the wrong here.