7 Reasons Why People Believe in God and Distrust Evolution
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2013
- 7 Reasons Why People Believe in God
Hemant Mehta (www.friendlyatheist.com)
The Original Article: "7 Reasons Why It's Easier for Humans to Believe in God Than Evolution"
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I think I was mentally prepared to understand evolution when it was taught to me in school because I spent most of my childhood reading about dinosaurs, how they went extinct 65 million years ago and seeing diagrams of that time period. When I later heard in History class that some Christian had calculated the origin of the earth at only 6.000 years ago, I outright started laughing.
Lord Baktor Calculated based on a book. Not from fossils, stones or even by inventing new method of measuring half-life that will give the answer of 10,000.
Ratta Toilete My brain is unable to derive any new information from what you said. Don't know if you are agreeing or disagreeing. Don't know if it's a recipe for a food dish. What I'm trying to say is: Please rephrase, clarify and/or explain whatever it was you were trying to convey...
Lord Baktor I agree. I'm like wtf is this person trying to say to you,lol
Lord Baktor I can translate. Ratta was saying that the christians had "calculated" the age of the earth by adding up laughable ages in a book of 900 year old men rather than doing physics and mathematical calculations because those are hard and disagree with the bible.
Baron von Quiply Ok, I get what he was trying to say now. I think he's emphasizing the least relevant part of my original post, that got me confused.
It's basically this ecuation "If I don't understand X, it must be supernatural."
"If A, then B" is a statement, not an equation, and even less so an ecuation.
Ok:) But it's the way a lot of christians and muslims see the world
And what is your way of seeing the world and why do you think it is the correct way?
I think that if we don't understand something, we should try to get the answer using science, not making up a stupid fairy tale.
+Rey hmm so you can only make conclusions about science if you are there and can test it at that point. So history, archaeology, astronomy, geology, nuclear physics, cosmology etc are a waste of time? Or can we make conclusions from the evidence left behind. If you are philosophical about it ALL evidence is in the past. Some light takes billions of years to reach your retina some takes milliseconds, but none of it is instantaneous. Its the quality of evidence that matters not its age.
Just wanted to thank you, Hemant, for making these videos. As a lifelong devoted Christian on track to becoming a pastor, it was when I was watching one of your videos that I finally realized and accepted that I was no longer a theist. You helped me jump over a great hurdle, and I will be full of gratitude for the rest of my life.
what are you not believing in God anymore ???
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I BELIEVE IN MY GOD ,JESUS THE HOLY SPIRIT people should wake up and see God is real i hope God will lead you to preaching ...Godbless
+Chantell G, I no longer believe in God because I realized that all of my beliefs were stacked on top of other beliefs: assumptions based on assumptions, ad infinitum. I thought, "well, it's ok if I have assumptions, as long as they're rooted in something solid and true." This is a very fair stance, I think. So I went looking for this solid and true foundation, only to realize that there was none. My spiritual experiences? My mind playing tricks on me because of the power of suggestion and desperation. My belief in the effectiveness of prayer? Selective memory/Sharpshooter Fallacy. The inerrancy of the Bible? Tarnished. The life, teachings, and resurrection of Jesus? Read any of Bart Ehrman's books and you will realize that the massive body of evidence indicating how manufactured and inconsistent it all is is overwhelming.
In short, the reason I no longer believe in God is because, after exposing myself to unbridled truth and evidence regarding the Bible and the belief in the supernatural, I simply was no longer convinced. I didn't choose it -- it was simply the natural result of open, objective inquiry and intellectual honesty. I was/am no longer able to subscribe to a "God of the gaps" philosophy because of how dishonest it all is.
Since my change, I have been immensely happier and more fulfilled. I have a drive to accomplish my goals and a confidence that I have never had before. I feel more moral because I have had to discover morality for morality's sake as opposed to imposed morality out of fear of disappointing a god.
I remember praying in tears saying, "God, I won't let me comfort be an idol in my life. I will follow the truth *wherever* it leads me, no matter what." And that's exactly what happened. And now, in a more significant way than ever before, I've truly been born again.
OKY you have made youre choice its really sad thouh that the devil could do that but the reason youre appiere is because youre focus isint on God anymore so the devil doesnt seem to have any intrests in you because he alreydy won so why would he try to bring you down ...he won so he is leaving you alone because he doenst need to worrie because you dont believe in God anymore .....but yess you made youre choice but oneday you wil be given another choice again a second change i hope that you will make the right choice .......im not being mean or anything because i only show love to people ....im just saying what i feel ....but yehh mahn i hope you enjoy youre life ...love u all ..may Godbless
Chantell G Belief or disbelief in God is not a choice. You are either convinced of something or you are not. I obtained deeper knowledge about the Bible and spirituality, and it left me no longer believing. If you think that belief is a choice, I encourage you to earnestly try believing that, buried underneath the foundation of your house, there is a stockpile of diamonds and rare metals. You see, there's no way you can consciously choose to believe this because you are simply not convinced. Also, your reasoning about the Devil not bothering me anymore because "he's already won" in me is just ad hoc stuff you made up. What objective analysis led you to this conclusion, and how is it that you have access to the internal thoughts and intentions of a divine being such as Satan?
I was born in the wrong generation:(
If only I was born in 2096
Hopefully religion will be seen as mythology by that time
+Gift Vilakazi I *highly* doubt it. :/
+Lewd What if World War IV happened in 2096? We don't know what would happen. You still want to live in that generation now?
+けつを食べる
Wait, World War IV?
Well, yeah WWIV. Is something strange about that?
Not a day goes by that I'm not surprised in how gullible people must be to believe in religion.
***** Yeah, I'm aware of that. I was just making a general statement on what I've experienced with religious people in my life. It's definitely a shame that there are reasons other than gullibility, that are often times more severe, making people believe these things.
@Pastor Craig sir this comment is 8 years old
can't be that hard considering muslims in saudi arabia have the lowest suicide rates.
Jesus is the truth .
Darwin was a llying con man , snake oil salesman , perverted finch molester and the son of the devil .
I think the fear of death is a major one. I mean yeah, it sucks to know that I'm going to die one day. I just don't know how believing in something false is going to change the fact. A lot of people can't handle it rationally I suppose
Nah - the universe was made by the flying spaghetti monster! Else, how would pasta even exist?
no
Are you Sirius?
Ramen! May you be touched by his noodley appendages.
+Jordan Beeney do you even English
skeptic Heathen Yes. It's a reference to the name "pad foot", which is the moniker for Sirius Black in Harry Potter.
Buddhists dont have a problem with understanding that we are interconnected. I am not a buddhist, I just know their belief.
catholics are christians
Nice profile, Lawliet. (Kira is coming).
If I was forced to have a faith, I'd choose Buddhism. He taught people the real practical things, like: "My teachings, you must examine." And that "I am not a deity, I am just a human like you, I have no power to help or hurt you. but if you do what I myself did, you should become a Buddha like me." Albert Einstein: "Buddhism is the only religion that adapt to modern science."
I would either be a Buddha or a Hindi. The others are factually inaccurate, believing that everything exists because of an "all powerful" God is ludicrous.
Dude , Hindi is a language
7 Excuses Why People Refuse to Learn and Distrust Science
I'd rather believe in evolution than in a murderer, an unethical being that watches over me.
When I was younger I prayed for a bike but knew that’s not how it worked so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness. /j
Silly people, everyone knows Stewie Griffin was the one who created the universe with his time machine.
+ihopeutubedies
Preach
That actually would make sense some time in the future a human or an alien goes back in time and creates the universe by accident of course
ihopeutubedies i thougt god did it when he farted on a lighter.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS
Oh yeah
I've had people say to me "Evolution isn't real because YOU CAN'T SEE IT!!!!" Like it's some kind of trump card.
Know what else you can't see? God.
April Merritt i have seen an angle
Effective Gamer Acute one?
Chukilled That joke was pretty obtuse.
Chukilled No a real one
On point number six, we can see how false that is - because there are plenty of secular societies in Europe where everyone accepts evolution , and they have less crime and poverty than we do.
***** And there are third-world countries were God-belief is effectively universal; but they are mired in poverty and chaos perpetually. Why can't god get his act together ?
Wow that's so wrong on so many levels.
There are other factors that have led to such an environment, not just because of a lack of Christian religion. Correlation does not mean causation.
Alvin Ong
"There are other factors that have led to such an environment, not just because of a lack of Christian religion."
Here again the paranoia of christians : he speaks about the lack of religion in general, YOU take it as he speaks about the lack of the CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
You can't avoid to bring all back to YOUR particular religion.
But don't worry : ALL other religion (at least monotheistic ones) do the same !
oh really they do but what do that has to do with believing in nothing that blames you for nothing don't you realise that most of the law that are holding most of the countries came from religion them self that's why atheism is dangerous and athiest in USA it self can't be trusted as bankers or Judges, just go back and Read about how pol pot from Cambodia did to his people as an atheist rruler !
"God love us equally"
God in the old testament:Genocide flood disease war rape slavery etc
thats the resume of the catholic church just look at the 10,000 raped, abused, tortured, murdered children in the schools across canada then there is , whats known as the stolen generation in australia wherever the churches had controll of children the atrocities occured in all fairness to the australians they were no where as deadly and brutal as canada no wonder there burning there churches down buried these little kids in unmarked graves hidden away from the schools in isolated fields ,they knew exactly what they were doing wouldnt appear they have evolved much .
I have one question:
Christians frequently say, that god is eternal, he always was here, blah blah blah... But what was he doing for that long before universe?! It's so boring to be god.
Кэтишкэт yes thats why he mad noah build the ark instead of him giving him one he needed entertainment in fact god is probably watching netflix right now
God really loves child pornography he's probably spying on a kid right now because he's all seeing
Haha....
first time for a GOd would probably not work the way it does with us someone who have created planets and maybe he was doing other things as well why would he devote his time to creat only us we don't know anything about that and why would we even care
Of course he got bored after all those times. That's why he created the universe. Then he scattered the humans, told us all different stories, and vanished. Now he is on the clouds laughing at us.
5:30 Another great way to conceptualise large time scales:
"The Earth is 4.6 billion years old. If we scale the Earth's age and say that it is 46 years old, humans have only been around for 4 hours"
When I talk to a Creationist about evolution, I sidestep the god issue. I point out that evolution doesn't preclude a god, it just doesn't require one. I point to the many god-believers that accept evolution so that they can at least feel comfortable with the topic. At least if I can get them to stop being a science denialist, I'm happy. We can deal with the god issue after that.
SiriusMined Great point. This is the same response I would give.
You sir, have gained a subscriber.
You sir, are going to hell.
Michael Mount you sir , you will rot in dirt not flying in heaven
You sir think you're *SPECIAL* subscriber
Michael Mount you sir, is going to be eaten by maggots while you lay there without being able to see anything since your eyes wont function
@@michaelmount1501 And you sir don't seem like you watched the entire video before replying shit
A person did have a role in my creation, 2 actually, they're called P-A-R-E-N-T-S. :D
+Spencer Rosario-McCabe Perfect. Thought you were religous at first.
Hal Marie I have nothing against religion, just not my flavor.
Sorry if I offended :3
Same. :)
How come your mothers belly was able to make a baby, to groenthe belly so big and stuff, why would we be able to make childs if we had no purpose we wouldnt be able to have children.
+mano mujica Humans are animals, and an animal's purpose in nature is to survive and create more of themselves. That's why are we able to carry and give birth to offspring.
I saw the grim reaper, a dog and a swan in my pancake once. Nothing divine, just a fucked up pan and funky coincidence.
I remember the first time I questioned my belief in god was when my school textbooks showed people used to believe in things that are considered crazy today... That made me question if anything today would be considered crazy for people in the future.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT and so is christianity,for all we know we could be in control in a simulation or a flying spaghetti monster is controlling us,no one knows what happens after death except dead people,Christianity and Evolution aren't the only things to believe in there's other things,People are too ignorant to realise that what if atheism and christianity is false?What if we reincarnate?What if we go into a bar and stay there till eternity?No one knows
@RUSSIAN ROBOT why the cap letters?U mad?Im not saying atheism is real nor Christianity is false,but what if both of those are fake and we have been going down two wrong paths?
@RUSSIAN ROBOT be studious and gain as kich knowledge and make my own perception of life?I don't know,other theories can help
@RUSSIAN ROBOT God is made by human.
@@leirak8086 Well , the Earth is travelling thousands of miles an hour thru space , i hope that someone is in control .
God is the Captain Kirk of the universe !
I love being an atheist, how can anyone believe in an invisible being, no matter what people say, I'll never believe in a superman.
Cynax 77 air and wind is backed up my science. God is not🤨
Where is your proof?🤷🏾
@@cynax7757 unicorns aren't invisible they can and will manifest themselves when they see a reason, see how stupid you sound
@@nikolasmad9340 Stupid is what stupid does.
@@randomyoutubeuser9465 science is backed up by God not magic.
So basically people believe in God because they have lazy minds and it makes them feel special. *sighs* I have no patience with people who don't want to think and I have pity for those who need to feel special. I'm glad you have the patience and understanding to try to talk to these people, because they just piss me off.
+Retrogamer412 people are actually atheists because they weren't brainwashed into believing a god, or they were and their logic overcame it. Not because they want to stand out.
+Retrogamer412 lol funny. I don't call religious people lonely hippies. A difference in belief doesn't constitute a higher or lower value. Maybe some less childish points next time? With some evidence? But I don't suppose you really like evidence huh? The whole God thing..
Retrogamer412
Ummm, no. I've always stood out, even when I didn't want to. I'm not sad, in fact I'm very happy. I have friends, true friends who have stood by me for decades. I don't live in a basement, I own my own home and 12 acres of land. Oh, well you go one right at least, in some ways I'm a hippie and proud of it. Any more ad-hominems you want to throw out so I can refute them?
sad" not said
C. J. Bailey
Because, like all religious people, they refuse to let go of ancient fairy tales that were shoved down their throats as children, or even worse, they were convinced as adults. I have no patience with lazy minded people and those who refuse to see reality just piss me off.
"Why are humans designed the way we are?" Because we have to look like something. Even if we evolved with a completely different appearance, we could still ask the same question about that appearance.
People just need to understand that "God did it" is not an explanation.
Someone had to create the universe and life .
We were in biology class today and somehow we started to talk about magic, our teacher is a very cool guy and he said "magic is only in the mind of who believe in it" and then BAAAAM all students started criticizing him, and I'm sitting there just laughing at how stupid people can be, that's what you get when you live in a country ruled by religion and traditions.
I can see why cilivization ruled by atheist are destroyed.
@Time Lord
You'll see soon. First America because the Covent they should have with Isreal. Then the rest of the nations that are disobedient to the One Lord.
You are the past and you will be no more.
@Time Lord
You are no more.
Lol!
I am not a atheist but i am always so impressed with your videos. .. i guess one day i will fully understand the concept
It's not hard
@@hohohohehehe6910 it is for some people.
Reason number 1: most people are intellectually lazy and/or incompetent. Reason number 2: the psychological and emotional need to believe (fear of death, pain and injustice/chaos). Reason number 3: indoctrination from a very young age. Reason number 4: group think or social pressure. Reason number 5: a serious failure of the educational system. Reason number 6: for many people religion is essential to their identity and relationships to others, science doesn't offer comfort and a sense of belonging. Good video.
Great summary Linus :)
very well say
would that apply to everyone?no people believe in god cause at times it really seems like he is there
@lessur dgreat evolution actually has proof? Lots of it? Evolution is not just a theory, it's a fact. But every thing in science is called a theory because science is constantly evolving and growing and learning. Theories are conclusions made off of irrefutable facts.
@lessur dgreat A scientific theory is a schems, that explains why the things are like they are (ALL the things that have been proven true, like dinausors for instance). If we do find little things the theory doesn't explain, or wrongly, we change it (and it has happend). Thus, we can never say that it's the truth, because we need to accept that we may have been wrong, so we use the terme believe but that doesn't mean we don't have proof that what we say is true, when we have many that what the creasionists say is false. And futhermore, humans aren't the only ones to hav feeling, and cousciousness is hard to define, so, there is still a debate about animal consciousness, but the basis of what we call consciousness have benn found in mammals and birds. And what do you mean by a fine tuned universe, a stable one? Because it isn't, it's a metastable one, its enthalpy is forever growing until no energy (which is, be defenition, chaos) can be found.
I love this guy, he is what all humanity should be trying to move towards. He is the epitome of goodness. Kept it up!
You must have a low threshold as to who you "love". I've watched several of this guys videos, and they are very weak indeed. Watch if you dare, the one about proof of heaven. Not one rational thought spoken there. In addition, he never responds to legitimate comments/concerns. The fact of the matter is that I don't know 100% if God exists, and neither do you or anyone else.
kdelage1 He tried to prove heaven? You realize he is an ex-jainist and currently an atheist right?
kdelage1 Guess who also agrees with that last statement //eye roll//
Jesus is the greatest .
God didn't make us.
Our parents in the bed room did.
AGREED.
Being an atheist, regarding the following uses of the word "god" stuck in our society, I shake my head and think that society still has a long way to evolve. "In God We Trust" printed on the currency, in the court rooms "Do you swear to god to tell the Truth?" and in the "Pledge allegiance to the flag", "One nation under god". Insults my intelligence. However, dumb people need to think that a god is watching over them so they will minimize the dumb and/or illegal stuff they do.
"god just POOFED us into existence"
That has got to be my favourite verb of 2013!
Just like the Universe "pooped itself into existence, out of nothing????". In other words, the Universe created itself !!!!!!!
Thain main reason is simple childhood indoctination. Geography determines Which form of indoctrination.
Luckily in my country, such thing as "believing in evolution" doesn't exist. We just KNOW the process of evolution, we are taught the theories of how animals developed over time and creationism isn't even mentioned as a "theory", cuz honestly, it's a joke. We all know it can't be possible. What we accept, and Christians here also agree, is that the Genesis from the Bible was meant in a metaphoric way. It shocks me that at my 27 years I realized a vast percentage from the USA actually believes the world was created in 7 days 10000 years ago... Like... Can you even think by your own??
Even as a religious person myself, I don't see uncertainty as something to be afraid of. Uncertainty is exciting to me. I personally prefer studying Computer Science and/or Engineering. However, the idea of learning about the process that brought us into existence and then exploring possible ways the first living organism was created is just super exciting. I hate closed-mindedness and limits, but I love possibilities and opportunities.
Do you pray 8 hours a day? Do you attend church every sunday? Do you celebrate christian hollidays in the name of Christ? Is religion or God the main concern in your life? If not, then you're not religious. Just because you believe in God doesn't make you religious. There are atheists who are religious because they love the culture and history behind tradition.
Also, its good to learn about evolution but you can never accept it as fact if you're christian. You cannot accept it as even a possibility. Its called sitting on the fence. You're either on the left side or the right side, you can't be both and thats with Christianity, you accept the bible as true or you don't. There is no "possibility" of things the bible is clearly against.
Do you pray 8 hours a day? Do you attend church every sunday? Do you celebrate christian hollidays in the name of Christ? Is religion or God the main concern in your life? If not, then you're not religious. Just because you believe in God doesn't make you religious. There are atheists who are religious because they love the culture and history behind tradition.
Also, its good to learn about evolution but you can never accept it as fact if you're christian. You cannot accept it as even a possibility. Its called sitting on the fence. You're either on the left side or the right side, you can't be both and thats with Christianity, you accept the bible as true or you don't. There is no "possibility" of things the bible is clearly against.
videos like this always help me get along in life. i'm kind of my own person at school. i go to a private school in which everyone more or less believes very adamantly in god. i've learned so many amazing things about how the universe works, and i can't share it with anyone and feel like i'm intelligent because as soon as i say something that contradicts their beliefs, they look on me as inferior and stupid. thank you for videos that help me understand why people can throw all matter of evidence and logic out the window to believe that someone out there is in control of everything and loves and cares about them.. for no reason whatsoever.
you still alive?
@@KookieKutter111 yes actually. I converted to Catholicism several years ago 👍🏻. Wild seeing this comment so many years later
Does God smile? Does he/she, have emotions? Does he/she move? -Or just sit still in one place all the time -for an eternity? How close can we get to him/her if we are lucky enough to get to heaven? Do all the billions of people who 'die and go to heaven' get close to him? Are they allowed to touch him/her? Have a chat? I have millions of questions about him/her......
what ever implied that god has a gender, or experiences time, or place, if there is a god, "it" if you could call it an "it" would *PROBABLY* not be part of this universe.
some people can't handle the truth, plan and simple
RUSSIAN ROBOT how is atheism nonsense? Please, tell me what is your proof for god’s existence?
RUSSIAN ROBOT No one can prove whether or not there is a god, that's true. But atheism isn't nonsense. What makes your God more likely that Zeus? And how does a supernatural, omniscient being sound no more nonsense than the lack thereof? Furthermore, many religious people make nonsensical claims that we can PROVE to be incorrect. The earth is ten thousand years old? The why dose have ice cores with millions of labors, and why have we dated rocks to be older than that. Noah brought 2 of every animal on his ark and landed in Arabia? The animals would need to have migrated, so where are the fossils of the animals along the migration path? You say that God is truth, well where's your proof?
RUSSIAN ROBOT that contained very little content. Don't get so hung up on the word know, I'll say believe instead. Why is it crazy to believe there is no God? And experience is not the only proof, I suppose you could connect all proof back to experience (example: I had the experience of testing a rock's age radioactively), but I doubt that's what you meant.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT atheism isn't invalid it has more scientific proof than your little fantasy book.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT the bible,im only saying atheism has more proof,but both christianity and atheism could be false and there could be something different going on
The reason people believe in God and not evolution is easy , some of us have evolved and some of us haven't
I still don't understand this argument between "god" and "evolution"... they are two completely different things... one is based on a myth and fictional character.. the other, evidence and discovery... what is all the fuss about. If you dont believe what the available data tells you and would rather believe in a silly story, that is fine. ;)
Simple! Because the people who believe in the silly story are trying to get it forced into science classrooms. And trying to get their silly outdated "morals" put into our laws. So yeah, that's what the fuss is all about but you are right, there IS no argument when it comes to evolution and creation. If there is a creator, it used evolution to diversity life on Earth over billions of years.
and vise versa. ("science" is forcing their "evidence" on religious)
to be clear, i use quotations around evidence as not all of science is definite, small discoveries change the way we look at our universe, I mean, here we were, thinking gravity wasn't a "quantum force" and couldn't be created or manipulated except by changing mass and density, yet we were completely wrong.
People are just stupid, both "sides".
larkstoungeinaspic
God doesn't exist... take your head out of your ass and read the first few commandments.. your non existent god wants FIRST AND FOREMOST to be worshipped above anything else.
Simply because the "term" is not present does not mean it is not meant with what is written you small mined fucktard. You wrote them down yourself, now read them properly.
1. means, you will have no other god and worship no other gods.
2. means you will not mock or reproduce in any unfit manner anything involving the heavens or hell... which already, EVERY single religitard out there breaks this commandment on a daily basis.
3. means you will not blaspheme god... and worship him without question or mockery, or suffer the consequences/
4. remember to keep the "sabbath day" holy... in other words, remember MY day... Also another commandment witch EVERY single, if not most, break on sunday by GOING to church, working or even doing chores around the house.
Take you head out of YOUR ass, none of these commandments benefit anyone and the well being of others, they are only put in the commndments to enforce the idea that only "this" god needs to be obeyed and worshipped.... get over yourself you small minded prick.
larkstoungeinaspic
If god exists, which he clearly doesnt, then there is no free will you idiot.
It is ALWAYS the same stupid fucken comments by you bible humping imbeciles.
Your video was overall positive in laying out some reasons why people may not accept evolution, however from my experience you did not include what I believe to be the biggest reason.. because it just doesn't matter.
Sometimes it's hard for science enthusiasts to understand that for a great majority of people, scientific details are completely unimportant, and to some possibly uninteresting.
Sure, when they go to the doctor, they will want the doctor to know about evolution and be up on the latest medical science, but when it comes to their daily lives working at walmart, or mom and pops shop down the road, these scientific details are just not worth their time, and makes no large difference whether they accept or do not accept evolution in their view, and I can understand that.
I believe in God and while I disagree on behalf of my own life, I can definitely say that your reason is much more valid than any of the reasons he listed lol
I also feel that you weren't trying to lie to the public like he was. Deluding them with false truths to push an agenda
scartissue454
He basically said people who are less educated believe in religion. You are agreeing with that are you not?
Wait you dont believe in evolution because you dont think it has any value in your regular life?
If you live in america, then you are the reason why my country is losing points in education and intelligence.
Y'know this is the eptiome of ignorance, and being proud of it
," oh, i dont believe, cause it is not useful dur hur"
It explains how we became human my child how is this not useful?
And if not useful to know than why not something we should understand all chdren should have the opprotunity to understand their origin whether your to lazy to or not.
Jonah Schimpf I believe he meant that it doesn't matter in their everyday routine, and most people in this world are stuck in their everyday routines just to keep their head above the water. So if you add that to the reason that I believe religion has taken hold (fear of death), it kinda gives you an overall package that if you accept it blindly, you could focus on trying to feed your family while "knowing" that you will be rewarded afterwards, so it's okay if you're not happy right now.
Of course, this is all _wishful thinking_ (coupled with stress of survival) until some evidence comes forth to support it, and I wish (oh how I wish) that everybody would be interested in finding out what's really true out there, instead of being content with just wishing how things ought to be (to solely pleasure us).
Because if you eventually do find out what is _really_ true (and I'd argue that we're not there yet at all), then you can take actions based on reality to further change things to suit your well-being.
We are running short of Atheists in India!
I think another reason people are hanging on to God is that they would feel very alone without. The idea of someone out there, always looking out for you and hearing your thoughts and prayers is very comforting when life is rough or whatever, I suppose.
Hello Hemant and Happy Holidays to you. I am grateful and with great appreciation and respect for you, having taken the time to convey the ongoing videos you have put together, for the benefit of our societies mental and spiritual growth and well being. I feel, one of the main things we need to do, in order to survive as a species, is to evolve in our understanding of life, by realizing our connection to everything. Which means, our need to question our current religious beliefs and our global understanding of "God" or "Higher Power". With the ongoing wars between the "Abrahamic Religions"(Jewish, Christian and Muslim) over the last thousand plus years, it's time we, as a people, seriously question the integrity of our belief systems, because our stubborn ignorance and arrogance, puts all our lives and the quality of life, AT RISK! So, I thank you and ask that you continue and fine tune your venture, so that it helps our people grow in better harmony with each other and the rest of life, in all its forms.
Neurogically humans tend to overrate their importance to the roof,thats why I understand our inability to accept that we're not a result of an ultimate designer.
You, Jaclyn glenn, Stephan fry and Richard Dawkins are my atheistic heroes. Keep making videos!
Is anyone going to point out the fact that if we all came from Adam and Eve, wouldn't we all be inbred?
If we came from 2 single people we would be inbred with genetic disorders like many of the Amish -(who originated from about 200 people)- who have devastating genetic disorders in many families, but it would be amplified on all humans.
The flying spagetti monster has an obvious precedent- the flying noodle monster - far earlier than pasta.
I think I will watch the Chronicles of Narnia with the flying spaghetti monster!
*Professor Farnsworth:* I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
there aren't reasons for everything, some animal colors at the present day are simply biological mutations which happen at random, evolution isn't the correct word, rather natural selection evolution would imply choice and guidance.
But...the biological mutation is the reason for the color? Going by your example I mean.
I meant there wasn't a reason for the color to be there, it's not always camoflauge or mating advantages. Just "junk DNA" I suppose.
When Christians say God blows the wind but in reality its just part of the nature
Belief in God gives so much comfort for many many people. The main reason people believe in God is the fear of death. If there is no death you will not find anyone in churches, mosques. People believe in things which give them happiness. Even many people who claim they are atheists live like theists. Living like an atheist is not easy.
Can you tell me how I live like a theist? My life has been pretty easy and I've been an atheist since I was 7 (aka, since I could see through the crap of Catholic indoctrination).
Aren't you maybe speaking out of your butt, without any data to support your claims? Chinese seems pretty happy to me, same the Dutch and so far and so on.
You're able to speak whst I've been thinking all this time, thank you.
I have a few a creationist family members, and one of them makes a point to slip it into every conversation with me at least once: "I didn't come from a monkey." or "I'm not some monkey." This is particularly frustrating when we aren't even discussing evolution. I wonder if (and why) it bothers him so much knowing I accept evolution that he feels it must be addressed. It's made me want to quit talking to him.
***** But that's the thing! He believes in the equivalent to the Hebrew tooth fairy (Yahweh, god), and I'm just supposed to sit there and listen to his fiction like it's fact. I'm supposed to be the respectful one. It's not like he believes in some harmless deity. This is a god that demanded his followers cut off part of their penises. This is a god that demanded women be treated like property. This is a god that made a bet with Satan and watched his favorite follower, Job, suffer immeasurable hardship just to prove a really useless point. Why am I the one assumed to have crazy beliefs when there are mounds of evidence and facts supporting evolution, yet not a shred of evidence outside the bible for things like 10 plagues of Egypt, a creation myth that includes light created before the sun was made, or a world flood that covered even the tallest mountain on Earth? How am I supposedly worthy of mockery when I have to listen to all this BS whenever I visit my family? Anyway, I keep my mouth shut, I try to be respectful, but I really hate it. It's so backwards to be treated like that when I don't even bring it up.
***** Just... LOL!!! Literally, you are AWESOME! Keep the laughs coming :)
***** "all mutations hinder ones ability to survive" --- where to even begin about how wrong that statement is??? Also, no human fossils have ever been found among dinosaur fossils. National Geographic would be all over that if it happened in any archaeological dig.
***** I'm not visiting those websites ever again. They are paid for by creationists. They're too biased, and they deny everything biology is about. Realize that if you deny evolution you deny genetics and most medical knowledge we know to be true. Your arguments aren't even your own; they are practically copy/paste answers from these christian websites. Think for yourself, learn from people that aren't paid by religious funding. Challenge yourself a little. Because it's clear that you don't understand what you're talking about. Try a little. Be brave and just try to learn something that isn't necessarily in the bible. Learn a little something other than myth. Science is all about challenging preconceived notions with rational, unbiased tests. You don't start with the bible and try to manufacture a truth that fits... that isn't science. Science doesn't start with the answers a researcher wants the way Answers in Genesis does. It's backward and that's not how actual science is done. Real science is braver than that.
***** "Positive/beneficial mutation is that it must increase COMPLEXITY, NOT be associated with any disease, not be part of normal immune responses to pathogens and/or any of the following: 1/ add new genes with new functions 2/ increase health and fitness to survive 3/ increase intelligence."
Do you understand that that is not the actual definition of a Positive mutation, right?
It is a straw man. They change the definition so that they can falsify their made up definition.
They are just playing you and give you miss information.
I will not debunk all of the miss information that those anti-sicence told you, but I will explain this one, you might stop drinking the cool-aid.
This is an oversimplified example, but I hope it helps
Positive mutation is any mutation that is beneficial for an individual in a certain environment.
The increase in size of the genetic material comes from from chromosomal duplicates. This means that we have many version of very similar chromosomes, that originated from an original chromosome that was duplicated.
The complexity per say increases when a gene is mutated because it becomes more different than the others gene that originated from the same chromosome.
A good analogy are cuisines. When you create a new recipe most of the times you first copy a recipe that you like and over time you change it. Therefore cuisines changes over time.
You modify your recipe by trial and error. You try different things, most of them do not work, but when one works and improves the recipe you will always use that.
It is important to notice that yes, you loose the old recipe (assuming that you will alway cook using that alteration). And if everyone does that, the original recipe will be lost. Nevertheless, the cuisine just got more complex because the new recipes are more diverse than originally.
What camera do you use for these videos? Its a great camera!
When I die I'm going to be a great fertiliser
I don't 'believe' in evolution. I see the overwhelming amount of evidence and conclusiveness and therefore I have to accept it as fact.
It doesn't matter if you don't want to understand evolution or not, because creationism is not even close to being a relevant alternative. Evolution is not into dispute.
I've always thought consciousness was a result of language as much as intellect. As we learn to relate words with ideas we can begin draw much more amazing and elaborate pictures in our heads. A baby is said to most likely see the world in the form of pictures, but once you add language, and those pictures can be twisted and redrawn you can see and think so much more. Over time I always imagined that language played a rather important role in our ability to self reflect and be self aware. I can't back that up, I don't know how, but I always thought it since I was young.
The reason that people discard the idea of evolution is because they take the book of Genesis literally. Well Genesis 1:6-8 literally says that outer space is filled with water and Earth is surrounded by a water-proof firmament barrier. Okay, creationists, prove the positive. Prove that outer space is chock full of water as opposed to being empty space, like the Bible says it is.
Fear of the unknown, fear of dying, fear of life after death, heaven & hell is why people believe. Religion capitalizes on skulduggery.
3:37 Mountains are not result of Natural selection.
Yeah they are man, you mean there aren't mountains that look around for the right ones to breed with?? That's just crazy
WTF !
I used to breed mountains for a living. I remember one mountain got away, was the biggest one I've had. Still can't find it.
Mikhail Mikhailov bro it took million of years by the tectonic movementd
I'm a christian and I accept evolution just like Pope Francis. He accepts evolution and he is the leader of the Catholic Church
+DemonzzOfWar ........Your brain is starting to work without someone telling you what you should think/believe. Now take a closer look at some of the bullshit you've been taught. Do you really think two penguins walked from the artic to the middle east to get on a boat that took eight people 125 years to build? And the builder was 600 years old when they finished the boat, then lived another 350 years. Or that God allowed Lott to fuck his daughters after he turned their mom into a pillar of salt...are you kidding me? The same Lott that offered his daughters to the town if they wouldn't screw the angel visitor. And by the way, the pope also said atheist can go to heaven to.....if you believe in that.
Mike Ireland I believe atheists,agnostics, CAN go to heaven unless you do something horrible like what Hitler did as an example. Maybe if you reject god and insult him,maybe. Idk and no one else truly knows. I do not think someone should call someones faith bullshit if they could be wrong. Same goes for religious people
***** I dont know, I dont think anyone truly knows. That's the beauty of not knowing
also like he says Jesus was a sinner,the bible is a dangerous book
that's progress...but honestly compared to the massive destruction the church a does to countless people's lives around the world....I think that is about the least important thing to start changing.
Great video! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. My question to you would be: What is your opinion of Erich von Däniken and his theories?
When you hear someone sneeze do you feel weird saying bless you? or even when you say omg?
i can't stand how many people don't believe the fact of evolution. that really drives me crazy
Theory....only theory. No facts
@@berlouliao2773 Please look up THEORY -not as you think.
@@berlouliao2773 Often includes proven facts. Theory explains the shit - both theoretical and actual. Simply the thing that says yes this works As opposed to what "GOD" or whoever says.
Theory is not fact. Nobody was there to observe what happened.
@@berlouliao2773 define scientific theory
Excellent video. Keep up the good work :)
If people can handle the fearful emotion that there is eventually nothing after death, only then they can start to dismantle their nonsense beliefs and accept what is. The fear is strong in some people and they are weak.
Your guess is as good as mine as to what happens after we die. Not saying I definitely believe in an afterlife 100% (mainly just wishful thinking) but the honest truth is not a SINGLE human being knows what happens to us when we die, besides the already dead
Especially in theology class, where the teacher explains the reasons for Gods existence in a very unbiased and informative way, I still see gaps where you just have to "believe". I was baptized, brought up Christian, and went to mass until i was about 12 and my parents kind of just forgot to go. I think that the Church has done so much to let us believe in it, how they've laid out a plan for what you should do for them your whole life. But I still cannot find any true reason as to why it makes any sense. And when I ask people about it, they just point to their personal belief or tell me to believe in God, but it makes literally no sense. I think I've finally found a RUclips channel that thinks the way I do!
With regards to time scale, the best description I've ever heard came from Carl Sagan. If you take the entire history of the universe and condense it down to one year, then the expanse of human recorded history is equal to the final ten seconds of December 31. Humbling, isn't it? The entire recorded history of mankind counted down by Dick Clark.
I think in Pokemon Y my squirtle must be christian, he won't goddamn evolve.....
Well actually pokemon is some sort of level based metamorphosis, it has nothing to do with the fact that the offspring of lifeforms is not absolute identical with the parents and nature selects several offspring to survive until some changes and transformations accumulate over time to create new species etc.
The more you know. *Que jingle*
Angelmou Watch Game theory, and look up their second pokemon evolution video. It's actually kinda cool what they came up with.
Masterswordobjection
Hahaha. It is not a big surprise to imply darwinian principles in a popular video game francise when several creatures actually base on real live animals, which evolved by natural selection.
So it is also not a surprise to find similarities of adaption when you create cities or countries in the games based on real life cities to find animals (or there pokemon) based on selected animals in the first place, which are living in the same regions. ;-)
Ok, now look, the video itself is just supposed to be a funny little "what if" kind of thing where they point to parallels and stuff. They really have some interesting stuff and I strongly recommend checking out their channel. I mean, I don't really think that the creators of Pokemon actually had this in mind but it would just be interesting if they did. That's the main point.
Religion itself is not a bad thing,it's just when it gets perverted is what makes it sick.
3:30 "We are the process of natural selection, just like that tree was or just like that mountain was"
"...like that tree was or just like that mountain was:
"...just like that mountain was"
Ah yes, our long lost cousin, the MOUNTAIN! Such an elegant creature. Wut.
I do not understand the premise that evolution and religion are contradictory.
Are you saying you believe that a God created Evolution as part of our creational process? Or that You don't understand intelligent design vs. evolution? (Or you believe in earthly religion [IE: Wiccan/Buddhism/Reincarnation])
Ahh.. I see what you are saying now. Good point. My wife is the same, she is highly religious and yet she also likes to watch my evolution/science/space-geek shows... firm in her faith that what she learns from the shows/documentaries confirms and reaffirms her religious views (protestant).
Obviously this will depend on both your definitions of religion and what would constitute a 'contradiction,' but on a basic level you can see a clear (and in my opinion, causal) link, with countries containing self-proclaimed religious people having a low uptake of evolution (polarised further if limited to a strictly non-theistic evolution) contrasted with countries with wider spread atheism and the relevant affect on its education system, showing far higher acceptance of evolution.
No reason for long answer.
Evolution = Death before sin
Religion = Sin before Death
Therefore evolution contradict in the creation story because you bring death before even the sin to happen.
***** I think you are connecting two seperate premises that are not necessarily related: the mutual exclusivity of God and evolution vs. religion and evolution. If there is a single being that ultimately created our world (or more likely, the mechanisms which allow our world to function and grow), it is possible that this being is not connected to any religion and its nature is poorly understood. Or more simply, perhaps God is real and all religions are fairy tales. Personally I think it more likely that if the mechanisms governing evolution were created, it was a collaborative effort by many beings.
Just the other day this guy at work who knows I'm an Atheist randomly started making fun of evolution, lol, I just stared at the guy speechless, like.. He really has no idea does he? 😂
I grew up and went to school in a country where there was no open debate about evolution vs creation, where religion was not part of school, and therefore I found it literally shocking to later learn that in other parts of the world, in advanced societies (like US) there are people who simply don't know (don't want to know) about the current state of science and who are debating questions which have been left behind many decades ago in other countries.
There must be some malicious motif behind this strategy which consciously tries to push kids back into ignorance by jeopardizing the school system and pulling a foggy shroud over scientific achievements.
I am curious: are there schools in the US where they are questioning whether the Earth is round?
On a side note about not understanding vast time scales, when I heard that the pyramids were already ancient by the time Cleopatra was born, it blew my mind. Always imagined those being very close in history.
According to my tiny human perspective, they are not close in time at all. But to the Earth, it’s all one blip on the timeline. Still blows my mind, actually. Haha!
"A wise person does not need the promise of heaven to see the benefits of being good." A quote I heard somewhere... In my opinion, the social bindings should be based on how others feel, not on what you believe. By making others feel good, you feel good. To kill someone based on color, class, gender, sexuality or whether they have a disability is wrong, because it hurts them and others. Part of that is herd instincts, passed down by genetics. We're stronger together than alone. We should all remember that. Religion tears humanity apart. Wars were waged in the name of many religions (I'm looking at you, Christians). Only an open mind and an open heart can bring us together.
to be clear i'm not "siding" here. But wars aren't caused by religious people and leaders, at least, it's not war's sole cause. From the beginning of humanity, even before we existed, even during our pre-human ancestor's time, wars have been there. Wars come with intelligent life, it's as simple as that. There is no place without war, that has a form of intelligent life (at least human intelligence). Of course, there are "good" people, but there is always at least one person who will destroy the "good" and yet, as the "good" try to defeat them, the "good" basically turn "evil" in doing so. If you think about it, when America bombed Japan, we bombed them in one of the most densely populated places in Japan, not only that, it was a nuclear bomb, effectively made by the entire population, mass genocide, and the criminal, is all of America (this is only an example). Theres also the fact that from Japans perspective, they were good, and America, Britain, etc. were all evil.
Dominic Donahue War is caused by greed and fueled by beliefs. Religions unite people, and if you manipulate them specifically, you have an army "in the name of god"
If people thought about the other side of the argument more often, we'd be far better off.
Dominic Donahue Also, yes, you are right. But, if anyone took a moment to think of all the innocents, some of whom may be opposed to the war, killed, injured and scarred for life, they'd back off. In my mind, it's better to back down from a fight than to be a cause of suffering.
***** I don't mind those that whose religion makes them better people. I just do not, personally, believe in God, and feel that I do not need it in order to be a kind person. I do, however, believe that Jesus did exist. There is archaeological evidence of his existence, so there's no doubt in my mind that he existed. I believe that at least some of what he taught was nothing short of brilliant. Forgiveness, open-mindedness and generosity are important values.
***** To be united, you do not need to believe the same things. You just need to agree on something. Religion grew out of our proximity to others, and the necessity to get along. We're stronger together after all. But now we live in a world where there are many, many religions, many at odds with each other, and we will run into people of these religions on a regular basis. We need to be united on a global scale, but these religions are now keeping us apart. Religion did some good. It helped up to accept the world we live in and ask the big questions, out of which science has grown. It's not completely bad (rarely anything is) but there are flaws, and it's becoming slowly irrelevant.
Really really good video.
i have some questions and i'm looking forward to what you have to say . 1-if by any chance ( bear with me) someone figures out something that proves God's existence , how would you feel the second you hear about, would you be excited?have doubts about your beliefs? or just feel like you'll have to deal with another guy ? ... 2-scientifically speaking , where did all this "matter" we see come from , the big bang theory takes us back to the singularity , so who put it there ? some people say it's the result of another universe that was out there before and got shrunk into one point in space and then begun to expand again , yet where did that universe come from ? was it there all along ? then who made it ? was it a higherpower ? ... 3- as you probably know , human cells die and others take place , how often that happens depends on the organ but about each 7 years or so almost nothing of what was there remains anymore , then what are we ? do you believe in souls ? ... and that is all , yes i believe in God , i'm a muslim and english isn't my first neither my second language so sorry for any mistakes i made , one last thing i have to say which is connected to the 3rd question , sometimes even the fact that i can move my hand however i want without thinking about it makes me believe in God . good luck
I would rather know the truth in life rather than live a life filled with lies we tell ourselves that only distort our reality instead of helping us to grow and change our reality.
Me: so, this is my cousin. *points at cactus*
Me: So this is my cousin. *points at cousin*
Philosophically that is true. In reality the word cousin refers to someone with the same grandparents. We stretch that sometimes to include 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th cousins. Beyond that is really a stretch, but it is done.
Animals and plants split billions of years ago. Who can say why some microbes preferred sunlight and others learned to "eat".
Cacti are an excellent example of evolution. They were plants growing in a sea and the sea starts drying up. Those plants that could evolve to make use of dry land survived. Lots of deserts have cacti, but the plants are different from one another. They probably evolved from the same type of plant that was able to survive their environment drying up.
Some deserts, while obviously being old sea beds, did not produce cacti. No plant resembling a cactus developed in those areas.
pikachu doesn't belive evolution.
Give him a thunderstone to ponder over, he'll come around.
only silly pikachus dont.....
Well delivered Hemant, and while effective on some points, less so on others. Who teaches that the mind, soul, and spirit are different words for the same thing?
Very, very well explained. Brilliant, sensitive, open minded, thoughtful , thorough.
I think one other point that wasn't mentioned but does tie in with the "everyone has a soul" reason is that some people are in denial that we only have this one life & that we become nothing but rotting flesh once we die. They refuse to believe that any loved ones that they had and eventually themselves will likely have no consciousness or "peace" (in the tradition sense of the word) after death. As a former believer, I completely understand why it would be hard for some to accept that there is no heaven as truth. Especially when people are always saying things like "I'm sure he/she is in a better place" or "May he/she rest in peace" or "He/She will be looking over you or will always be with you" after the death of a loved one. I think if more people accepted logic, science & actual facts rather than what they've been taught to believe from the Bible or other religions....they would live out their one and only life more fully.
You have a good point, but your comment comes off as a little callous to me, absolutely no offense
Why is atheism given loop holes, but the same isn't given to creationism. Does atheism or evolution have an consensus on the Origin of Life or even the Origin of All things. They claim that evolution is true but takes billions of years. That seems like an easy hand to play because you have NO way to observe that or to repeat it to say if that's true.
evolution takes more time the more complex the organism, and so smaller organisms, like bacteria, can be observed evolving and adapting. chemists to my knowledge see this often with bacteria they grow for proteins that eventually become resistant or even immune to methods of killing it off when it loses its use.
bebopjelli2 I can understand that with bacteria. But speaking only on humans, we cannot observe evolution due to the "long process" To say we can do it because another species can does seem valid to me. I just don't think that atheist expect creationism to explain every detail and to conform to every structural aspect of science when evolution can even be tested with humans nor observed.
***** That's my point. It's not fair to say something more powerful than us created us, but its fair to say we must believe in a process we can not duplicate or observe? In our world we observe things being created from other things greater than itself.
Brandon Smith Is the fossil record invalid to you? Or DNA? Even though we can't directly observe the change occurring, we can observe the change that occurred.
Josh Haws There are NO fossils and there are NO DNA records that directly relate us to primates. We have similar attributes but there is no direct correlation between them and us. Evolution is a thought process that tries tying it in all together. Without the links validating a DIRECT relation to primates, its just another worldview and not that final answer that atheist seem to often portray. Even IF that were the case, Evolution and/or Atheist still have no explanation of the origin of matter, life, or even time. Creationist at least have that rational to believe that something greater than what we see had created the things we see. Why? Because we observe that same process of creation here on earth. Babies come from parents, plants from seeds, etc. To say emphatically that NOTHING created this universe which is set on a self sustaining yet temperate operating system is not rational and that is the essence of the insanity of atheism. Most atheist claim an intellectual high ground in regards to Science but somehow throw the rules of of the window when it comes to the origin of all things. Someone with a rational state of mind would be agnostic at best. We say a higher being created the universe (God) because we see how reproduction of matter works here on earth. Atheist say that nothing created something but where did they observe that in nature?
just smashed a bottle of beer on the wall and the splash looked like mary and people bow
An intergration of matter and concomitant dissipation of motion. during which the matter passes from an indefinite, incoherent homogeneity to a definite, coherent heterogeneity, and during which the retained motion undergoes a parallel transformation.
Actually, two people were involved in my creation...I'm pretty sure that they didn't use their hands, though.
Here is something for religious pple > if we all came from adam and eve then we are all relatives which makes us all incest and as far as i know incest is wrong >
so how do u counter this?
im interested how pple r going to reply to this comment :) lets have a small discussion :)
“None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord"
found this online now tell me if incest is labeled as "wrong" by religion and God himself
HOW SO WE ARE ALL DOING IT?
Asgardians3t The fact that noone anwered you, proved you right :)
:) glad some1 is in their right mind
its a good point and no1 can counter it
Also since god took a rib af adam to create eve, they would have got 100% the same DNA. Now thats confusing. How is eve a girl with the same dna? How come, that nowadays averyones DNA is unique?
This whole stuff is pretty... confusing :)
well either way we r doing incest
which is kind of cool since ive always loved incest anime love stories xD
Asgardians3t :D
The main reason I rejected evolution for a long time was because it was basically (indirectly) teaching me I'm unlovable. While it didn't outright say I'm unlovable, it explains how certain traits are desirable over others, and sexual organisms with desirable traits were far more likely to pass on their genes, basically saying there are specific traits people are attracted to. I have 0 of those traits. I'm short, I'm weak, I'm mentally ill, I'm unintelligent, I'm socially inept, I have a very small penis, I have a receding chin, etc. the only positive trait I have is my extremely high pain tolerance, but even then, it's far more useful for party tricks than finding a potential mate. Evolution also seems to imply that our sole purpose is to reproduce, and since no one can love me, because loving me would go against natural selection, I will never pass on my genes. Basically, evolution made me feel completely useless. I admit, it's better than Christianity that made me believe I was an evil person who deserved eternal suffering no matter what I did. It's better to feel useless than someone who deserves to suffer solely because they were born.
I believe in evolution, and I sincerely believe I'm useless. Not just useless in the Atheistic sense where everyone is useless. In 100 years, the vast majority of us will not matter. No one will know who we are, and any legacy we left on the Earth won't matter. I mean i don't even make a difference. I can't work, I'm unlovable, I don't have very many friends, I have nothing to give.
Before you all give me a list of people with my traits that were able to find love and have children, without seeing the list, I can name something else that all have in common. They are all very financially successful. If you have enough money, it can override all your negative traits. Why do you think Donald Trump has children?
In the mind of a Christian your great-uncle may develop dementia and hardly remember his family or sometimes even gets lost on the way home... But somehow after death the 'soul' you meet in 'heaven' has perfect memory of everything in life.
its the whole design thing that puts me off religion, there's nothing on this planet that had to be designed
***** one word. adaptation.
***** Bats can see... they've got eyes but they are not necessary anymore so their eyes are slowly vanishing, from Generation to generation, and will become very bad while their sonar improves. it fit's evolution perfectly and is what you would expect to find.
If a bat has worse eyes than another it doesn't matter (as it would with eye-dependent creatures) since it's no evolutionary trait for them anymore, so even bats with worse eyes can reproduce without problems and pass on their bad-eyes-Genes to the next generation.
After many generations they probably won't have eyes at all.
In contrary: a Bat with worse sonar can't (for example) hunt as good as the others => less food => gets weaker => mating partners will regret it more often than the others with better Sonar (even if they find another bat to mate they won't be able to feed their offspring as well as the others) => Bad-Sonar-Genes won't be passed on to the next generation as much as Good-Sonar-Genes.
If they were designed: why do they have eyes anyway since they don't use them? Bad design.
***** *face palm*
It's not a coincidence, they developed good hearing as a response to bad night vision.
***** It's called "Echo Location". Some blind people use it.
This is one of the smarter (and more coherent) Atheists I've had the privilege of listening to, but unfortunately, he seems to deviate from Skepticism, a trait I would love to see within an Atheist (and have yet to find).
That's just a personal crutch though. Still makes good videos, would highly recommend them to people of all religions.
Viking102938 You've not seen skepticism within an atheist? We're skeptical of the claims of a theist, otherwise we'd be theists too.
Arthur Fuksayk , I have talked to one, but it was like meeting a unicorn (I'm not totally convinced I wasn't asleep).
It's a very rare thing, and is why I refer to Atheists as being religious (it's not the textbook definition, but, you know, whatevs).
People that (claim) to be Atheists typically do support their own form of theism. They don't take my objection concerning their anti-theism thesis very well though.
Viking102938 How can atheists support their own form of theism? Do you even know what the word 'theist' means?
Atheists are skeptical. They're skeptical of any god claims as no evidence has been presented. I'm also skeptical of astrology, near death experiences, the existence of the soul among many other things.
Now, do you have a coherent argument to present, or just ignorant statements about atheists?
Arthur Fuksayk , if you can't continue this discussion calmly, then I won't be part of it.
*Thesis:* "A statement or theory that is put forward as a premise to be maintained or proved."
It does not mean belief in a deity (I'm quite confused as to how people have gathered that).
*Atheist:* "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities."
This is opposed to Agnostic.
*Agnostic:* "Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims-especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims-are unknown or unknowable."
As opposed to Skeptic.
*Skepticism:* "An ancient or modern philosopher who denies the possibility of knowledge, or even rational belief, in some sphere."
In summary, Atheism; belief in proof that there is no deity. Agnostic; belief that cannot be proved (it could be said Agnostic and Skeptic are almost synonymous). Skepticism; we can't prove religion (or anything else for that matter).
If you're skeptical, that has nothing to do with being an Atheist. Atheism in of itself relies on evidence and a firm amount of faith (theism), whereas skepticism says "f*ck it all, I could be wrong about everything".
Viking102938 I said:
"How can atheists support their own form of theism? Do you even know what the word 'theist' means?"
You replied:
"Thesis: "A statement or theory that is put forward as a premise to be maintained or proved."
It does not mean belief in a deity (I'm quite confused as to how people have gathered that)."
I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't one of your strengths.
"If you're skeptical, that has nothing to do with being an Atheist. Atheism in of itself relies on evidence and a firm amount of faith (theism), whereas skepticism says "f*ck it all, I could be wrong about everything".
Wrong, atheism is not faith-based.
Theism: belief in a god or gods
Atheism: Lack of belief in a god or gods
The 'A' is the important part.
Care to try again?
I believe in God because I have been granted personal miracles when I needed them and have seen my prayers and consciousness be interacted with inexplicably, sans for God. God bless you man!! Keep doing what you are doing!!
Dude, you are the most respectful Atheist I have ever seen. I'm Agnostic but I think you make some great points and represent Atheism very well. I guess you can say that, when it comes to choosing sides. I am currently leaning more on the Atheist side. Keep up the good work! :)
This really proposes a false dichotomy between "God" and "evolution". The two are certainly not mutually exclusive. Creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive, no doubt, but classical Theism and evolution are definitely not conflicting and there are reasons beyond simplistic teleology for people to accept the God of classical Theism. (the argument from contingency, the prime mover argument, the distinction between existing things and existence itself, transcendental necessities, and many others). Also you presuppose the falsity of dualism without even offering an argument for monism. I can't say I am a dualist in the Cartesian sense, but you actually have to address the argument before using language like "sometimes it's hard to overcome" or "it may be hard to accept" because you're inserting your conclusion into your premise.
How is creationism in any way different than god they are both saying the same thing one leads to another. And this supposed "God of classical Theism" was just as fictional as last I checked, people trying to believe in the metaphysical seem just as deluded as those who believe a senior citizen built an ark.
How so? Assuming you're familiar with Aquinas' and Aristotle's theistic arguments, how are their conclusions as silly as the Noah's Ark story?
***** Yes, his words do hold a false dichotomy. But since the dichotomy exists in the public mind, it's understandable to speak this way when discussing popular beliefs. I don't think Mr. Mehta shares that view.
Yeah, I would have to grant that.
***** Aquinas is wrong basically because his conclusions are based on a fallacy. "Everything needs something to cause it, except this one thing I simply assume doesn't". Why doesn't a deity need a cause?
Simply put, Aquinas assumes God doesn't need a cause, he doesn't explain why the universe, or the preuniverse doesn't, he simply excludes god for no reason. I might as well say everything needs a cause except the universe and I'll be as correct as him (I'm not in this case). The correct question is: Does the universe need a cause or not?
So is the universe god? depends, is it concious? No.
What I mean is, if there has to be an unmovable mover, uncreated creator, and uncaused cause; Why does it have to be deity and not the universe? We can only trace back to the universe not a deity, so adding a deity to the causal chain only adds one more link, which is only assumed to be there, therefore can be disregarded.
First 16 seconds into the video and he says that people believe in God, instead of evolution..
For The Atheist Voice, I think evolution means no God, and that's just not true..
Evolution is a process and it could have been set in motion, by our Creator. We have so much to learn as a species..
Neither the believer or non-believer, knows it all now.
I don't think that's what he meant.
A lot of people believe that's the case, and that's how they reconcile their faith with evolution. However, the reason many people, including Richard Dawkins, don't like that, is because evolution is possible without God, so why bring God into the mix at all?
so, who create the 'creator'?
Adrian Tang .. Nobody.
***** .. that's the mystery.
Saw my kid watching this while playing a lego game... So proud, but mostly on the multitasking
I personally find it cool that I am related to everything. It really feels amazing when you realize that you and all of these creatures that evolved alongside your species are living on one rock near one star amid billions of stars and trillions of rocks, and this one is the only one we have found that supports life. It's amazing. It's also amazing that people say that atheists aren't spiritual when that second sentence is probably the most spiritual sentence I have ever written, and I was forced to attend a christian school.